Yesterday I poked fun at my beer-buddy Stefan for posting the following paranoid fantasy:
I heard a story from an informed source that someone walked into a polling place in Bellevue and stuffed a bunch of “flood ballots” into an Accuvote. They have lawyers looking into this.
Well, KCRE has finished its investigation, and it turns out that Stefan was right: somebody did stuff a bunch of ballots into an Acuvote. Um… into the slot on the side of the cart, that is. You know, the one where you are supposed to stuff absentee and provisional ballots.
The Republican poll worker who reported the incident insisted that this was suspicious because one person shouldn’t have had more than one ballot, but of course one can easily imagine a circumstance where somebody might gather up absentee ballots from family, neighbors or co-workers, and drop them off at a polling station or a post office.
So I guess, where there’s smoke there’s, um, smoke.
Will the victors of Tuesday change the course of the war towards the path appeasement like Neville Chamberlain, or continue the present course of the war. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain History repeats itself when fools disregard the principles of War.
Chamberlain’s political legacy is defined by his dealings with and appeasement of Nazi Germany. He signed the Munich Agreement with Adolf Hitler in 1938 which effectively allowed Germany to annex the Sudetenland, leaving Czechoslovakia vulnerable to German attack, one of the steps on the road to World War II. Chamberlain remained in office during the Phony War, from September 1939 to May 1940, but resigned the premiership immediately after Germany invaded the Netherlands, Belgium and France. He had a key role in the formation of the Special Operations Executive, but he died of cancer six months after leaving office.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....38;search=
Where To Begin? Where To Begin?
“Ethics Democrat Asks, Where to Start?
“By ERICA WERNER
“AP
“LOS ANGELES (Nov. 10) – The Democratic congressman who will investigate the Bush administration’s running of the government says there are so many areas of possible wrongdoing, his biggest problem will be deciding which ones to pursue. …”
http://tinyurl.com/yzyhfs
klake the Warmonger Party got its ass kicked! You lost. It’s oooooooover. Get oooooooooover it.
Before I forget … klake is a nazi.
Hey Flakey Klakey does that cock taste good? How’s it feel to have your inbred, rightwing, bible-thumpin, nazi, kkk-lovin, cowardly ass whipped? You fucking punk.
Just another Republican blowing smoke out of his ass. … No, wait … make it TWO Republicans blowing smoke out of their asses.
Republicans are too stupid to figure out that a whole neighborhood might have sent one person to drop off the “flood ballots” instead of a whole bunch of people trying to get through the mess. Duh-uh. No wonder they got a thumpin’.
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Roger is that your new posting above or some of your new friends teaching you new vocabulary?
Try rabbit porn klake. You’ll like it. For a good time, call 1-800-SUCK-ROG.
Ladies and Goldy you are sleeping on your keyboards check out King County stuffing the ballot box again. They will be counting, counting, and counting until Darcy wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.metrokc.gov/electio.....sPage4.htm
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT NO. 8
Ballots Cast/Registered Voters: 154656 / 316777 48.82%
Poll Precincts Counted/Total Poll Precincts: 745
/ 745 100.00%
United States Representative Congressional District No. 8
Darcy Burner DEM 76586 50.26%
Dave Reichert REP 75523 49.56%
Write-in 273 0.18%
Those are good numbers for Reichert, klake. KCRE counted 12,000 more ballots and Burner’s lead in King County increased by only 25 (1,038 to 1,063). Since it looks like Burner’s going to lose, where does the stolen election come in, you fucking idiot?
Where did you get those numbers, klake? They’re not up on KCRE web site yet.
Dear Klake,
We have so much to celebrate, so much to talk about, and so much to work on in the days and weeks ahead. But, let me start by sharing just two words with you.
Thank you.
My colleagues in the new Democratic majority – in both the House and the Senate – are in a position to lead America in a new direction and we wouldn’t have this opportunity without your energy, dedication and commitment. The DCCC community, who stayed engaged day after day, who responded every time we were in need, was the heart and soul of this effort.
I want you to know that I fully appreciate the humbling responsibility that you have given to me and to all Democrats. If I am elected Speaker by my colleagues, I will take the Speaker’s gavel from the special interests and place it in the hands of the children for the future of our country. Democrats are ready to lead and prepared to govern. We will take our country in a new direction. We could not have done it without you.
Your support and your partnership will be even more crucial in the period ahead than they were during all the excitement of the 2006 campaign. Together, we can set a new course for America. Nowhere did the American people make it clearer that we need a new direction than in the war in Iraq. We are committed to finding a new solution to Iraq, but we know that actions speak louder than words.
That’s why we will go forward with our “Six for ’06” agenda:
To make our country safer by implementing the 9/11 commission recommendations
To make our economy fairer
To make college and health care more affordable
To move toward energy independence
To guarantee a dignified retirement
To do this in a fiscally sound way with civility, integrity, and bipartisanship.
That’s the kind of tangible progress that you have brought within reach by devoting yourself so enthusiastically to supporting the work of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.
I’ve received hundreds of emails in the last few days congratulating me and the DCCC — thank you, and congratulations to you as well. You were a part of history, and we would not have a new direction in America without you. Thank you for all you have done and for all that I know you will do as we work side-by-side to lead America forward.
With deep appreciation,
Nancy Pelosi
Nancy Pelosi loves a sinner like meeeeeeeee.
Ladies and Goldy you are sleeping on your keyboards check out King County stuffing the ballot box again. They will be counting, counting, and counting until Darcy wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.metrokc.gov/electio.....sPage4.htm
Where did you get those numbers, klake? They’re not up on KCRE web site yet.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 11/10/06@ 6:55 pm
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT NO. 8
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Roger those ladies are still leaving you those post. Respond so they will quite posting on this web site.
The Skagit Valley Herald
A day after Democratic challenger Jeanne Youngquist defeated six-year Republic incumbent Norma Brummett in the Skagit County Auditors race, both candidates were left speculating over what factors may have played a role in the outcome. While neither identified an overriding issue affecting voters, both agreed that a ballot problem in the weeks leading up to the election and an electorate that favored Democrats may have played a role.
Where does the stolen election come in, you fucking idiot?
Comment by Roger Rabbit— 11/10/06@ 6:51 pm
Well little bunny you can start using your little thumper now. That what all good little bunnies do when there is danger. Something stinks in the State of Washington and it isn’t your feet Roger.
Folks where was the last sighting of Dean Logan?
PEORIA-BLOOMINGTON, IL – There was a little bit of confusion this morning for voters in two precincts who vote at the same location in Tazewell County.
When voters turned out first thing this morning at Cross Point Church in Groveland to vote in the 3rd and 11th precincts, the election judge initially would not let people vote, saying a race was left off the ballots.
There was confusion over where the dividing line is for the 46th District and which race they could vote for.
“It wasn’t until we had a little time to think about it that we straightened it out where the line was and who was on which side,” says Tazewell County Election Judge Phil Webber.
It is not uncommon for several precincts to use the same polling place.
Democrat Dave Koehler and Republican Ernie Russell are vying to win the 46th District State Senate seat previously held by George Shadid who is retiring.
Voters in four precincts in Rapid City will now vote in Rapid Valley on election day after a polling place on East Saint Patrick Street refused to take down political signs. Pennington County Auditor Julie Pearson says voters who would normally vote at the Open Bible Church will now go to one of three different places in Rapid Valley to cast their ballots. Pearson says the church did not want to comply with the state’s requirements that voters be given a fair and impartial place to vote on election day.
Pearson says her office has mailed out different voter registration cards with the location of their new polling place to every resident the change effects.
If you have any questions about where you should vote on Nov. 7, you can call the Pennington County Auditor’s office.
Does that include the Church of Liberalism? Schools now days have all kinds of political verbiage on the walls of class and hallways.
Klake at 5
I think this was telling… and so was your reference to Chaimberlain…
The man who sees absolutes where all other men see nuances and shades of meaning is either a prophet or a quack. Donald H. Rumsfeld is not a prophet.
Dissent and disagreement with government is the life’s blood of human freedom, not merely the first roadblock against the kind of tyranny the men Mr. Rumsfeld likes to think of as his troops still fight this very evening in Iraq. It is also essential, because just every once in a while, it is right and the power to which it speaks is wrong.
In a small irony however, Mr. Rumsfeld’s speech writer was adroit in invoking the memory of the appeasement of the Nazis for in their time, there was another government faced with true peril with a growing evil – powerful, and remorseless.
That government, like Mr. Rumsfeld’s, had a monopoly on all the facts. It too had the secret information, it alone had the true picture of the threat. It too, dismissed and insulted its critics in terms like Mr. Rumsfeld’s. Questioning their intellect and their morality.
That government was England’s in the 1930s. It knew Hitler posed no true threat to Europe, let alone to England. It knew Germany was not rearming in violation of all treaties. It knew that the hard evidence it had received, which contradicted its own policies, its own conclusions, its own omniscience, needed to be dismissed.
The English government of Neville Chamberlain already knew the truth. Most relevant of all, it knew that its staunchest critics needed to be marginalized and isolated, in fact it portrayed the foremost of them as a bloodthirsty warmonger who was, if not truly senile, at best morally or intellectually confused. That critic’s name was Winston Churchill.
Thus did Mr. Rumsfeld make an apt historical analogy excepting the fact that he has the battery plugged in backwards. His government – absolute and exclusive in its knowledge – is not the modern version of the one which stood up to the Nazis. It is the modern version of the government of Neville Chamberlain.
But back to today’s omniscient ones, that about what Mr. Rumsfeld is confused is simply this: This is a democracy, still, sometimes just barely and as such, all voices count, not just his. Had he or his president perhaps proven any of their prior claims of omniscience, about Osama bin Laden’s plans five years ago, about Saddam Hussein’s weapons four years ago, about Hurricane Katrina’s impact one year ago, we all might be able to swallow hard and accept their omniscience as a bearable, even useful recipe of fact plus ego.
But to date, this government has proved little besides its own arrogance and its own hubris. And yet he can stand up in public and question the morality and the intellect of those of us who dare ask just for the receipt for the emperor’s new clothes.
In what country was Mr. Rumsfeld raised? On what side of the battle for freedom did he dream one day to fight? With what country has he confused the United States of America?
The confusion is about whether this secretary of defense and this administration are in fact now accomplishing what they claim the terrorists seek, the destruction of our freedoms, the very ones for which the same veterans Mr. Rumsfeld addressed in Salt Lake City so valiantly fought.
And about Mr. Rumsfeld’s other main assertion that this country faces a new type of fascism as he was correct to remind us how a government that knew everything could get everything wrong. So too was he right when he said that.
Though probably not in the way he thought he meant. This country faces a new type of fascism, indeed.
“We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty,” (Edward R. Murrow warned in 1954). “We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. We will not walk in fear one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men, not from men who fear to write, to speak, to associate and to defend causes that were, for the moment, unpopular. And so, good night and good luck.”
Olbermann
Oh, and @1… I am slightly curious. Tell us more! I know you will… big girl.
LOS ANGELES (Nov. 10) – The Democratic congressman who will investigate the Bush administration’s running of the government says there are so many areas of possible wrongdoing, his biggest problem will be deciding which ones to pursue. …”
http://tinyurl.com/yzyhfs
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 11/10/06@ 6:14 pm
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The investigations are only for show to satisfy the base; Dems will sell out for a bigger share of the pork. Watch and see, Rodent.
re 1: Where does the Treaty of Verdunne fit into your world view of how the NAZIS came to power?
goldy, we suspect you because you EARNED it thru bad behaviour in both the Rossi election and also in the Gorton win 6 yrs ago.
re 23: Log in Your Eye, Righton.
what who were? were re fighting ww1 now ?
MOre Countrys are becomeing Socialist. hmmm very intereting
Ortega set to align with Chavez as well as to leave his Marxist past behind
Nicaraguan President-elect Daniel Ortega seems to have left his revolutionary past behind. During his first rule in the eighties, Ortega confiscated businesses and lands as his leftist militias were fighting the Contra rebellion financed by Washington
http://english.pravda.ru/world.....a_Chavez-0
goldy please could you do something about all the porn spam on here
I mean think of the children
Mythology: Voting third party is wasting your vote!
10/09/2006 [article] / Opinion / Columnists
As long as we continue buying into this self-perpetuating myth, it will be true. Who do you think has the most to gain from promoting it?… Yep, those same Democrats and Republicans that want to make darn sure they stay in control.
http://english.pravda.ru/opini.....930-vote-0
Political culture of lies and war
10/02/2006 [article] / Opinion / Columnists
On September 25, 2002, President George W. Bush uttered a big lie that was bound to have disastrous historical consequences. It would lead to one of the dumbest wars ever. In his search for fictional reasons to attack Iraq, he said: “You can’t distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror.”
http://english.pravda.ru/opini.....4799-war-0
According to the Sec. State as of 6.00PM on the 10th
Party Vote Vote %
Darcy Burner
Democrat 90,188 49.1565%
Dave Reichert
Republican 93,283 50.8435%
Vote Totals 183,471 100%
King
Last tabulated:
11/10/2006 6:41:08 PM Darcy Burner
Democrat 76586 50.3494%
Dave Reichert
Republican 75523 49.6506%
Pierce
Last tabulated:
11/10/2006 10:53:05 AM Darcy Burner
Democrat 13602 43.3710%
Dave Reichert
Republican 17760 56.6290%
Congrats folks, I have to say you have absolutely won! And won big! I have to offer congrats to Goldy and all you folks!
So a Sincere congratulations!
Now……what’s YOUR damn plan on the terrorists?
Every terrorist loving country has weighed in in the last few days on how damn happy they are, and how they have just won, and how damn willing they are now to raise hell with new attepts of jihad on this country.
So you and they have just won!
And I will be awaiting your new plan?
Still waiting to hear?
Please Please explain your plan on these terrorists new found Glee!
So what’s your plan?
Please explain your plan on these terrorists!
Be watching to see a PLAN!
Can hardly wait!
Oh! No Plan?
Enjoy the next 2 years!
With the Church of Liberalism and the Socialist Democrats running the country we will see more of this left wing extremist deciding for everyone.
Associated Press
COSTA MESA, Calif. — Student leaders at a community college voted to drop the Pledge of Allegiance after a tense meeting in which one flag-waving pledge supporter berated them as anti-American radicals.
Orange Coast College’s student trustees voted Wednesday not to recognize the pledge, with three of the five board members saying it should be dropped from their meetings.
Board member Jason Ball argued that the pledge inspires nationalism, violates the separation between church and state with the phrase “under God,” and is irrelevant to the business of student government. He cited a 2002 San Francisco federal appeals court ruling — later dismissed by the Supreme Court on a technicality — that the pledge is unconstitutional when recited in public schools.
Sophomore Chris Belanger, one of several students who attended the meeting to support keeping the pledge, waved an American flag and accused the board of “radical views and anti-Americanism.”
Coast Community College District spokeswoman Martha Parham said the decision was up to the students.
“They run their own show, so to speak,” she said.
8th CD: i believe that burner has improved her chances statistically with the new reporting. pierce co. votes are overweighted at 36% of total currently compared to 19.4% in 2004 race. assuming 270k vote total (avg between 02 and 04 totals), burner wins if she gets .5165 of total assumed king ballots with assumption of pierce staying at same percent as reported thus far. that is quite possible and i am psyched. do we really have to wait until monday to get this counting done?
Coast Community College District spokeswoman Martha Parham said the decision was up to the students.
“They run their own show, so to speak,” she said.
Then Martha there is no good reason to keep you on the payroll.
Plan boys?
We need your plan?
Plan boys?
We need your plan?
Plan boys?
We need your plan?
Still waiting?
Plan boys?
We need your plan?
do we really have to wait until monday to get this counting done?
Commentby borat— 11/10/06@ 9:33 pm
Borat yes they need all the time available in order to stuff the ballot box in King. Not to worry they have become pro’s at completing that task. The fun part comes when they have to empty out the military votes just to throw off the count for Burner that usually requires three counts.
Sydney: Prime Minister John Howard underscored his strong support for the Iraq war on Friday, saying pulling troops out of Iraq in circumstances that would be seen as a defeat would be an “enormous blow” to the United States and Australia.
But some observers have warned that Howard’s resolute support of the Iraq war in the wake of the US midterm elections could damage his popularity ahead of elections next year.
Howard, who calls US President George W. Bush a close friend and has been unwavering in his support of the war despite widespread opposition in Australia, acknowledged that the Cong-ressional election results signalled dissatisfaction with the situation in Iraq.
“It would be an enormous blow to American prestige and it serves us nothing to see America humiliated, particularly given the importance of the US in our region with all the challenges we face with countries like North Korea,” he said.
Howard said most Australians also were against the war, but “I don’t believe the majority of Australians are in favour of getting out in a precipitous way.”
“They do recognise and accept that if the coalition leaves Iraq in circumstances which is seen as a defeat that would be incredibly bad for American authority and that in turn would be very bad for Australia,” Howard said.
Australia sent 2,000 troops to the March 2003 invasion, and currently maintains around 1,300 troops in the Middle East.
Well gs some folks see thing like you but they don’t live in this country. Life a bitch when you are a coward and have a last name Kerry.
Plan boys?
We need your plan?
Commentby gs— 11/10/06@ 9:36 pm
gs the only plan they have is cut and run like a bunch of fools.
New Delhi: Fate of nearly 1,700 private schools hangs in balance in wake of the drive to close illegal establishments in residential areas.
All these schools, despite being recognised by the government, function illegally from residential areas.
About 70 of them were initially sealed by the Municipal Corporation of Delhi (MCD) but were allowed to function as the Supreme Court has fixed January 31 as the deadline for them to file affidavits to shift out on their own to escape sealing.
Out of about 2,000 private schools in the metropolis, only 382 exist legally on land allocated by various government agencies.
If these schools are ultimately sealed, careers of about 800,000 students enrolled with them may be jeopardised since parents may find it difficult to admit them elsewhere due to paucity of good schools in the city.
Goldy this might help Seattle Schools fix their problem, import their Teachers to work at minimum wage here in Seattle. Hell make all public schools private and all the rich Seattle elitist kids can join the poor folks in class.
Socialist your friends are now toast without your help.
Hyderabad: Indian security forces on Friday killed 11 Maoist rebels in two separate gunbattles in the southern state of Andhra Pradesh, police said.
Nine rebels of the outlawed Communist Party of India (Maoist), including five women, were killed in a fierce firefight yesterday in a densely forested area in Cuddapah district of the state, said Y. Nagi Reddy, a local superintendent of police.
Security guards were patrolling the Badvel forest when they came upon the rebels and a gunbattle erupted, he said.
Police have not identified the women who were killed, but two of the men killed were medium-rank rebel leaders, Reddy said.
GS (gaseous sh*thead) – you were defeated. However I think this time around you learned enough to stop make stupid predictions.
You’re a buffoon. Now slink back to (un)SP for the old perpetual circle jerk and let the adults run things.
klake – you’re the biggest sore loser around. The people rejected the failed policies of the Bush regime and their rubberstamps in Congress. They got tired of the lies. You’re too much of an idiot to see it.
41 thru 45: The 1st part of the “plan” is to get rid of the people who get us into pointless wars. The second part of the plan is to audit the war profiteers who are stealing our money. The third part of the plan is to take the money they’ve stolen from U.S taxpayers away from them. The fourth part of the plan is to draw our troops back to a friendly area (Kurdistan)where they can regain their strength and morale and be there to do what we really sent them there to do: Protect our oil interests. The fifth part of the plan is to get our reserve forces back home and put them in “reserve” for emergencies (like Katrina).
And the 6th part of the plan is to reluctantly re-institute a draft — because you can’t fight a stupid war with drafted soldiers who aren’t economically strapped or are making a career of the military.
OR — We can STAY THE COURSE!
Well, wiseguy, whadya think?
Buenos Aires: An Argentine judge handed down international arrest warrants on Thursday for former Iranian President Hashemi Rafsanjani and eight other former Iranian officials.
The warrants have been issued in connection with the 1994 bombing of a Jewish cultural centre in Buenos Aires that killed 85 and injured more than 200.
An Argentine investigation blamed the bombing on Hezbollah fighters acting on orders from Iran, and last month a pair of special prosecutors here asked federal judge Rodolfo Canicoba Corral to order the arrests.
The judge said on Thursday that “sufficient proof” had been provided to issue the warrants.
The revival of the case has thrust Argentina’s centre-left government uncomfortably into the thicket of Middle Eastern politics, although President Nestor Kirchner and his aides have declined direct comment on the inquiry.
Yep the Socialist Democrats will use this plan to capture terrorist all over the world. Now that will take how many years and how many lives will be lost as the terrorist multiply. The victims will be women and children for they cannot defend themselves from their brutality. Ohhh I forgot Osama Bin Laden thanks’ you for the needed support in this conflict.
The fifth part of the plan is to get our reserve forces back home and put them in “reserve” for emergencies (like Katrina).
Well, wise guy, whadya think?
Comment by headless lucy— 11/10/06@ 10:01 pm
Well sweet little Lucy you made a small error in your plan. The National Guard are required to provide services for emergencies like Katrina, WTO, Fires, and provide support for disasters in other parts of the world. This fine ladies and gentlemen work for the Governor and the President of the United States. The Reservist provides services for the active units that are in harm’s way. All Federal owned military components are not allowed to provide the services to the State without the President approval and the Governor blessings. That is why our Guard Units could not enter Louisiana with the Governor permission to provide services to New Orleans.
Don’t stop thinking because of me the Socialist Democrats really need a great plan on how to abandon Iraq.
Well, wiseguy, whadya think?
And the 7th part of the plan is to send Special Ops. out to kill terrorists instead of have useless wars that serve only to enrich corporations and the uber rich.
We are also going to reform lobbying and corporate money in political races and politics in general, get health care for every citizen, make higher education free for all who want it and can “hang” with us smart Liberals, strenghthen unions, reorm NAFTA, CAFTA, The World Bank and put Neil Bush in jail for his role in the savings and loan scandals that were caused by Reagan. We have a “plethora” (that means, “a great many”) of positive ideas to reclaim America.
OR, We can stay the course.
The plan is to “stay the course”. Oh excuse me, it was “never was” “stay the course”. It’s adapt, always adapting or benchmarks… You know – that plan. The effective plan that always was effective..
Nevermind, next question?
re 54: Bullshit! They were requested by the governor.
That is why our Guard Units could not enter Louisiana WITHOUT the Governor permission to provide services to New Orleans.
I’d say our plan is working.
Bullshit! They were requested by the governor.
Commentby headless lucy— 11/10/06@ 10:20 pm
THE TROOPS FROM THIS STATE WAS NOT ALLOWED INTO Louisiana AND HAD TO BASE IN MISSISSIPPI. THEY CAME FROM OUR COMBAT COMM UNITS AND WAS DEPLOYED SOUTH AND WAS DENIED ACCESS TO NEW ORLEANS OR ANY OTHER PART OF LOUISIANA. The Governor of Louisiana was a week behind on providing any aid unless she got credit for the services.
Re 58: Are you an idiot? The governor did request them. They just weren’t sent. And by the way, we have a President who insists that the laws don’t apply to him and he flaunts the law each and every day. And your saying his hands were tied by some bullshit beaureucratic protocol? Are you a clown? A dope.
“My citizens are dying but I can’t do anything about it because the governor forgot to request help!@ Sorry. My hands are tied”
You lie so much I hardly know whwere to start with you. Face to Face I’d be sorely tempted just to punch out your lights.
Maybe Bill Clinton and John Kerry can give this chap some good advice on how keep your foot out of your mouth.
Mexico City: Mexican President Vicente Fox, who is prone to verbal mishaps, put his foot in it again by admitting he talks nonsense, in an off-the-record comment splashed on front pages and played on television news.
Fox, who ended 71 years of one-party rule at elections in 2000, leaves office on December 1 and his government has been plagued with political upheaval as it stutters toward the finishing line.
“I can talk freely. Now I can say any nonsense. It really doesn’t matter, I’m on my way out,” Fox told the Spanish news agency EFE in an informal remark before a televised interview.
The comment, made last week, was part of a tape sent to clients by the agency. A US Hispanic channel played the remark, which was then picked up by Mexican television and radio stations.
Several newspapers carried the comments on their front pages on Thursday and presidential spokesman Ruben Aguilar criticized the Hispanic channel for broadcasting quotes that were not intended for public viewing.
It was the second embarrassment for Fox this week.
re 60: You are lieing klake. But. All you did was find a technicality to harp on. You have not addressed the substance of my commentary because you are in the wrong — and if I’m wrong about that then Ted Haggards not a buttfucked crack smokin’ Bible thumpin’ Republican!
Washington and London: Al Qaida may be planning to attack rail and air travel in Europe – possibly targeting the busy holiday travel season – according to intelligence findings, the “CBS Evening News” reported on Friday.
The report, citing Arab and other intelligence sources, said interrogations of Al Qaida suspects who recently left Afghanistan and Pakistan raised the concerns.
“One suspect said plans for repeating the Heathrow attempt (a plot foiled in August to bomb trans-Atlantic airplanes) were all prepared,” the network quoted an Arab official as saying.
“It is now a matter of taking action … Al Qaida’s strategy appears to be raising the pressure in Europe,” the official, who requested anonymity, told the network.
The report came as Britain’s intelligence agency, MI5, said on Thursday that Muslim extremists were plotting at least 30 major terrorist attacks in Britain, and the threats may involve chemical and nuclear devices.
Britain suffered its worst peacetime attack in July 2005 when four British Islamists blew themselves up on London’s transport network, killing 52 commuters and wounding hundreds.
In Lodon, Prime Minister Tony Blair said on Friday that Britain faces a terror threat that will “last a generation,” after a spy chief warned of nearly 30 ongoing plots to kill and damage the economy.
Blair backed comments by the head of the MI5 domestic intelligence agency, Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller, who revealed that her agents were tracking over 1,600 suspects from 200 groups, most with Al Qaida ties.
“I think she is absolutely right in saying that it will last a generation,” said Blair, referring to the MI5’s chiefs comments made in a speech on Thursday.
“This terror threat is very real,” he added.
Blair said the terror threat could only be combated by tough security measures and “taking on and combating the poisonous propaganda of those people that warp and pervert minds, particularly of younger people.”
“It’s a very long and deep struggle, but we’ve got to stand up and be counted,” he said.
Manningham-Buller’s assessment, made in a rare public speech, came after a Muslim convert was jailed for life this week for plotting to kill thousands of people in devastating attacks in Britain and the United States.
Dhiren Barot, 34, who will serve at least 40 years behind bars after being convicted on Tuesday, planned suicide attacks involving a radioactive “dirty bomb”.
Head of counter-terrorism at London’s Metropolitan Police, Peter Clarke, has said that thousands of British Muslims were under surveillance for direct or indirect involvement in terrorism.
Dame Pauline Neville-Jones, chair of the Joint Intelligence Committee, which provides intelligence assessments to the government, said the days were “long gone” when governments could withhold such information from the public.
“It’s not what you know, it’s what you don’t know,” she said.
Yep the English are taking the blunt of the attacks while you all hide behind your mommies dress. How is your exit plan working now that the Socialist Democrats are running the show?
41 thru 45: The 1st part of the “plan” is to get rid of the people who get us into pointless wars. The second part of the plan is to audit the war profiteers who are stealing our money. The third part of the plan is to take the money they’ve stolen from U.S taxpayers away from them. The fourth part of the plan is to draw our troops back to a friendly area (Kurdistan)where they can regain their strength and morale and be there to do what we really sent them there to do: Protect our oil interests. The fifth part of the plan is to get our reserve forces back home and put them in “reserve” for emergencies (like Katrina).
And the 6th part of the plan is to reluctantly re-institute a draft — because you can’t fight a stupid war with drafted soldiers who aren’t economically strapped or are making a career of the military.
OR — We can STAY THE COURSE!
Well, wiseguy, whadya think?
Klake: And Pancho Villa might attack a ranch in southeastern AZ
Every night Klake’s wife and Steffy’s wife BEG me to fuck them. But since these girls are UGFUCKINGLY – I have to pass. Now Klake’s sister isn’t too bad. Steffy’s sister is really his brother so we won’t go there.
1. You lie so much I hardly know where to start with you. Face to Face I’d be sorely tempted just to punch out your lights.
Comment by headless Lucy— 11/10/06@ 10:29 pm
Sweet Lucy love, kisses, Rock and Roll none of that violence for you might hurt yourself.
Was Pancho Villa engaged in terrorism and asymetrical warfare? I don’t think you have a prayer of adding two and two on this terror thing — unless you are a fanatic or a paid propagandist. But thanks for keeping my rebuttal instincts on high alert.
Klake hides in an attic concealed on a shelf
Behind volumes of literature based on himself
Then softly he will explain
Just exactly who is to blame
for causin’ him to go insane
and finally, blow out his brains —
Sweet Lorrainne
Sweet Martha Lorraine.
Well what do we have here some home grown terrorist trying to blow up folks in Vietnam. I wonder if they served with John Kerry during the Great War.
Ho Chi Minh City: Three Vietnamese-born US citizens were sentenced yesterday to 15 months imprisonment and ordered deported on charges of plotting violence against the Communist-run Vietnam government.
The sentences of the three, who have been detained since September last year, included the 14 months already served, so they would expect to be deported to the United States in December.
Judge Vu Phi Long in Ho Chi Minh City People’s Court issued the 15-month sentence and ordered them to be expelled within 10 days of finishing their prison terms.
The one-day trial included a Florida resident, Nguyen Thuong Cuc, 58, whose detention has drawn criticism from her supporters in the United States before President George W. Bush visits Vietnam next week for an Asia-Pacific summit.
US embassy officials in Hanoi declined comment.
Four other defendants, who include a US resident of Vietnamese descent and three Vietnamese living in Vietnam, received the same sentence and were ordered to be put under house arrest for three years when they complete their sentences.
Cuc, who goes by the name of Thuong Nguyen Foshee in her Orlando, Florida home, has close ties with Bush’s Republican Party. The seven defendants were charged last week with “terrorist activities”. These included bomb plots, delivering leaflets and jamming radio stations, prosecutors said.
Maybe Ron Sims should take some notes on this, it could happen in King County. Keep your greedy little fingers off the rail lines because they will be used in the future for a light rail.
Hong Kong: Thousands of Chinese villagers clashed with riot police after barricading officials and foreign businessmen in a warehouse they said has been built on illegally seized land, media reported on Friday.
The clash erupted on Wednesday near Shunde, in the southern province of Guangdong, during the opening of the warehouse, which villagers said had been built on land grabbed by officials and sold off to developers, Hong Kong’s Apple Daily said.
The villagers only began to disperse the next morning when police used tear gas.
Hong Kong Cable TV showed footage of protesters in Sanzhou village in Guangdong province throwing rocks and sticks at the riot police on Thursday as clouds of tear gas blew through the crowd. An unspecified number of villagers were injured, the Ming Pao Daily News reported.
The villagers, who have been protesting corruption for months, on Wednesday surrounded a warehouse they said was built on land that was illegally seized and sold to developers, the South China Morning Post reported, quoting unidentified villagers.
China has struggled to smother rising flare-ups of social unrest in recent years, sparked by issues ranging from corruption, forced layoffs, land grabs without compensation, to disparities in wealth between the rich coastal belt and the impoverished hinterland.
Lucy@74
I’ve loved that song since it was on the radio when I was a kid.
Well, except for the part about klake. I never liked that part.
China has struggled to smother rising flare-ups of social unrest in recent years, sparked by issues ranging from corruption, forced layoffs, land grabs without compensation, to disparities in wealth between the rich coastal belt and the impoverished hinterland.
Well this sounds familiar here in the North West with what the Socialist Democrats been doing the last few years. That was done in the name of environmental causes, for welfare of the wealthy elitist, and for the benefits of the poor living in the city.
Folk’s maybe the Church of Liberalism should jump on this band wagon.
London: A religious think tank provoked an impassioned debate in Britain on Friday by urging churches to promote white poppies alongside red ones for Remembrance Day because they were more Christian.
The group, Ekklesia, said that the wearing of the traditional red poppy had become “politically correct” and public figures wore it almost as “an article of faith” to mark Remembrance Day.
But Jonathan Bartley, the co-director of the think tank, said people should have a choice and not feel that they would be vilified for wearing the white version.
He argued that the red version implied that redemption could come through war, but the white one reflected Christian values of non-violence.
“Christians believe that injustice and violence was exposed, challenged, rendered powerless and defeated on the cross,” he said. “The white poppy, too, suggests that redemption should come through non-violent sacrifice, not the military variety.”
But he was criticized for misunderstanding the red poppy, which the Royal British Legion described as “a symbol of the need to reflect on the human cost of war”.
Red poppies have been worn on lapels since the aftermath of the First World War to honor those who died in battle. The flower was chosen because it flourished in the fields of Flanders where millions of soldiers perished.
But Bartley said that there was political correctness surrounding its use, and he compared its acceptance to the recent row over the displaying of religious symbols such as crosses in public.
Someone should tell this to those folks swimming the Rio Grande and refusing to speak English. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh we might hurt their feelings.
Dubai: Unskilled laborers wishing to work in the UAE are required to have Basic English language skills and knowledge of the country’s rules.
Dr Ali Bin Abdullah Al Ka’abi, Minister of Labor, told Gulf News on Wednesday that the ministry is going to implement the two new pre-conditions, but did not give a time-frame.
“A special committee at the labor ministry will be set up in each country to determine the workers’ English language skills. Information booklets on rules will be available in the respective ministries in order to educate workers who are about to start work in the UAE,” said Dr Al Kaabi.
Workers who cannot prove that they have English language skills cannot work in the UAE. This new rule will not be applicable to workers from the Arab region, and will mainly apply to the Asian workforce.
Dr Al Ka’abi is planning to tour Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Nepal and the Philippines after Ramadan to sign labor exchange agreements with these major countries that export manpower to the country.
“During the tour, a mechanism
Hey; John Kerry these folks are educated and they want to go Iraq because their are no jobs in Dubai for them. Plus it is a long swim to the States.
Dubai: Desperate and without a proper job, educated unemployed Indians are now on the look out for “agents” who can help them reach Iraq.
These men who have come to the UAE on visit visas are earning their living by taking up menial work in Dubai and its neighbouring emirates.
The men say they are not deterred by the travel ban imposed on Iraq by the Indian Government.
“I am ready to take the risk of going to Iraq and working there for a few months and then going back to India,” said Ratan Lal Singh, 30, a commerce degree holder who now works as a cleaner.
Sources from the Indian consulate in Dubai said companies in the UAE were well aware of the travel ban imposed by India.
The Government of India travel ban came in 2004 after the abduction of three truck drivers in Iraq in 2004.
As the investigations begin more light will be shone on the sleazy, no bid, corrupt, insane, dishonest, disgusting, hypocritical, pathetic Republican traitors. The Democrats just have to be careful to not show too much sleaze to the American People too fast. They don’t have the stomach. Heck, they can’t even bear to see pictures of flag draped coffin, after flag drapted coffin coming home, much less the blasted bodies of innocent Iraqis.
The Republicans are so morally bankrupt that it may seem like the Democrats could be picking on them, so they may have some sort of sympathy from uninformed Americans that they don’t deserve.
My suggestion Mr. Conyers…. Go slow. Be mythodical. Leave the rhetoric out of the process, and let the facts speak for themselves. The Republicans manufactured, and used enough rope to hang themselves many times over. Their dirty deeds have been done. Now it is time to document them. All of them.
Now we can just show the American People just how bad they have been acting, while moving forward with real positive legislative change on the other hand. Let’s try taking care of the people, instead of the uber-rich, and defense contractors, and party contributors.
As far as the GOP goes, when they called me a traitor for asking questions, and demanding the truth, they lost everything, including their souls.
I am a Real American. Something no Republican will be able to say for a long time. A very, very, long time.
42#
plan ok how about the abolishment of privet property and the nationality of all industries. National health care for all and free education for who ever wants one threw collage.
And bring the troops home and let Iraq figure out what they want to do with there own country .
I personally would like to see the end to the stock market and bond markets .
and putting all Ceo’s and corporate criminals in jail for life and there fortunes returned to the people coffers.
Would you like to here more of my plan.
So stop whining and thank your God the Democrats won and not me .
Klake@ way too many:
Are you a dope or just never bothered to take a civics class?
The new congress doesn’t seat until January. Until January, everything that happens is the responsibility of the seated Congress – You know; all those Republicans you think are so spiffy who are still there until the end of November.
So, what’s their plan?
Interesting about the absentee ballots. I used to take my family’s ballots all to the post office and mail them at the same time when I lived in Pierce County. Never realized that I might make a republican nervous.
You might want to hedge your bets on “the abolishment of privet property.” Can I keep my own toothbrush?
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Dear klake,
Despite all the well-deserved abuse I heap on you (and will continue to heap on you, because you still deserve it), I want to thank you and your fellow wingnuts for helping make this historic victory possible by being such ignorant fucking assholes.
Sincerely,
Roger Rabbit
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” … A day after Democratic challenger Jeanne Youngquist defeated six-year Republic incumbent Norma Brummett in the Skagit County Auditors race, both candidates were left speculating over what factors may have played a role in the outcome. While neither identified an overriding issue affecting voters, both agreed that a ballot problem in the weeks leading up to the election and an electorate that favored Democrats may have played a role.”
” … Something stinks in the State of Washington and it isn’t your feet Roger.” Commentby klake— 11/10/06@ 7:22 pm
So let me get this straight, flaky klakey. A Republican runs elections in Skagit County, there’s a ballot problem before the election, the Republican loses, and this means what? That the voters kicked the Republican out for doing a lousy job? That the Republican-run elections department rigged the election for the Democrat? You are a fucking idiot, klake.
17
Is there a point in here somewhere?
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“Does that include the Church of Liberalism? Schools now days have all kinds of political verbiage on the walls of class and hallways.” Commentby klake— 11/10/06@ 7:30 pm
I guess that depends on how you define “political verbiage” klake. I worked as a pollworker in a school building that had a sign on the wall that said “Restrooms” with an arrow pointing down the hallway. If you consider that sign to be “political verbiage” and taking a shit to be a political act, then yes it did. You are a fucking idiot, klake.
klake, do the world’s posterity a favor and get yourself sterilized so you can’t reproduce. One fucking idiot like you is already too many.
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The investigations are only for show to satisfy the base; Dems will sell out for a bigger share of the pork. Watch and see, Rodent. Commentby americafirst— 11/10/06@ 8:04 pm
Even if it turns out that way, I still like our crooks better than your crooks. They’re cheaper, for one thing.
88#
and why do you need a tooth brush headless one ?
I meant privitly owned land.
So you can keep your toothbush but I still don’t no why you need one.
gs @ 37
Our plan is to DEFEAT the terrorists, not get our asses kicked like you fucking incompetents.
Don’t worrie Roger Burnie Sanders will keep them cooked demercrats in line
96#
I like my plan better
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do we really have to wait until monday to get this counting done?
Commentby borat— 11/10/06@ 9:33 pm
Borat yes they need all the time available in order to stuff the ballot box in King. Not to worry they have become pro’s at completing that task. The fun part comes when they have to empty out the military votes just to throw off the count for Burner that usually requires three counts. Commentby klake— 11/10/06@ 9:39 pm
The reason it takes until Monday is because the people who count the ballots are entitled to work a reasonable schedule and go home to their families at the end of the work day just like you are, you fucking idiot.
Make that two fucking idiots.
One for each of klake’s split personalities.
I have been write to the russian papers I think I have them convinced they should return to Socialism and do it right this time ……..
klake, gs, Mike!?, and the rest of you wingnut fucking idiots: What is YOUR plan to win the war? Do you have one? Where is it? How long do we have to wait for it? You’ve had 3 1/2 years, why isn’t it over yet?
To answer my own question, the mess in Iraq is what you get when you put children in charge.
Roger this is a relly good Russian Paper
http://www.prima-news.ru/eng/
Thats the one i wrote the letter to
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Well sweet little Lucy you made a small error in your plan. The National Guard are required to provide services for emergencies like Katrina, WTO, Fires, and provide support for disasters in other parts of the world. This fine ladies and gentlemen work for the Governor and the President of the United States. The Reservist provides services for the active units that are in harm’s way. All Federal owned military components are not allowed to provide the services to the State without the President approval and the Governor blessings. That is why our Guard Units could not enter Louisiana with the Governor permission to provide services to New Orleans.
Don’t stop thinking because of me the Socialist Democrats really need a great plan on how to abandon Iraq. Commentby klake— 11/10/06@ 10:18 pm
Once again you are wrong, klake. You are a fucking idiot.
“he Posse Comitatus Act, passed in 1878, prohibits the military from enforcing civil criminal law within the United States. But recent congressional acts granting exceptions to Posse Comitatus have altered the manner in which the armed forces may assist law enforcement. Active-duty soldiers can be employed to respond to a domestic crisis when a state, usually through its governor, requests a presidential declaration of a state of emergency. Once a state of emergency is declared, military forces are under the direction of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). The Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief Act of 1984, as amended in 1988 (42 US Code Section 5121 et seq.), commonly referred to as the Stafford Act, is the authority under which such assistance is provided.”
http://tinyurl.com/ybqwhp
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Re 58: Are you an idiot? Commentby headless lucy— 11/10/06@ 10:29 pm
Yes, klake is an idiot.
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Klake@ way too many: Are you a dope or just never bothered to take a civics class? Commentby David— 11/10/06@ 11:54 pm
Do you need to ask? Both.
The dust hasn’t settled on this election yet, but I’m already receiving reports of election irregularities in — guess where — Ohio. But come Jan. 2007 Ken Blackwell will be gone gone gone so that should be fixed by Nov. 2008.
Let’s not forget the GOP tried to keep soldiers in Iraq from voting. http://tinyurl.com/jv9nf
And let’s not forget that wingnuts support terrorist attacks against the U.S.:
“Congratulations Speaker Pelosi, now let the bombs fall where they may. My prediction: terror attack on domestic soil passenger aircraft within the next six months. Casualties in the 2-300 range. And, unfortunately, maybe that’s just what we need. It’s obvious people don’t remember what happened 5 years ago.
Posted by FullContactPolitics at November 8, 2006 10:52 AM”
http://tinyurl.com/ydlfwu
Hey klake — Tuesday is what REPUDIATION looks like. Suck on it, you fucking traitor.
Rumsfeld may face abuse charges
Donald Rumsfeld
Rumsfeld quit after the US mid-term elections this week
Donald Rumsfeld, who quit as US defence secretary this week, may face criminal charges in Germany for alleged abuses in Guantanamo Bay and Iraq.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6138480.stm
let the war crimes trials begin
Moscow lice prefer well-off ladies to vagabonds
Today more and more adults and children from well-off elite Moscow families have pediculosis. Lice are getting more selective; they like when people wear good scents and give everyday care to their body and hair
http://english.pravda.ru/scien.....465-lice-0
and you thought nobody likes rich people
UNDECIDED HOUSE RACES
There are still 8 undecided congressional races, with Republicans ahead in 7 of them. Among them:
The GOP is clinging to Katherine Harris’s seat in Floridaby a mere 373 votes; a recount begins Wednesday.
In Ohio, Jean Schmidt, the wingnut hater who called Rep. John Murtha a “coward,” leads in her race by 2,862 votes.
In Wyoming, Barbara Cubin, who threatened to slap a wheelchair-bound opponent following a debate, leads by less than 1,000 votes.
Let us hope and pray all three of these races flip, but the one I want most is Schmidt. Let’s hope and pray that Ohio voters sent her packing, and that Ken Blackwell’s vote-rigging wasn’t enough to save her sorry, anti-veteran, anti-American ass.
yes and lets hope darcy wins to
I think darcy still has a chance to win
Roger do you listen to the radio will you are bloging ?
kuow is really a good station to listen to the BBC is on right now
world service
http://www.kuow.org/
it is 94.9 fm
Barbara Cubin, Wyoming’s lone Representative, is one of those pro-life nutjob embarrassments that makes even staunch Republican voters blanch.
In the primary, a GOP challenger who spent almost no money got 39% against her (which is better than McGavick did in WA after spending millions on attack ads against Sen. Maria Cantwell).
Wikipedia details a few of Cubin’s more outrageous gaffes:
“On April 7, 2003, Cubin said on the House floor, ‘My sons are 25 and 30. They are blond-haired and blue-eyed. One amendment today said we could not sell guns to anybody under drug treatment. So does that mean if you go into a black community, you cannot sell a gun to any black person, or does that mean because my …’ Representative Melvin Watt, (D-N.C.), who is black, interrupted and demanded that Cubin retract the statement. Cubin … maintained that her comment was within House rules.”
“Cubin once startled a group of GOP donors during a speech on energy policy by interjecting, ‘I know what Victoria’s Secret is. She’s a slut.'”
“During the Florida presidential recount in 2000, Cubin complained at a Republican leadership meeting, ‘We are bending over and taking it from the Democrats.’ When a colleague objected to her language, she replied, ‘Quiet down, or you’ll get a spanking.'”
“While serving in the Wyoming legislature, Cubin distributed penis-shaped cookies … to several male colleagues.”
“The Wyoming Democratic Party has repeatedly called for Cubin to return the $22,520 she received from Tom DeLay’s Americans for a Republican Majority political action committee (ARMPAC). The party noted, ‘It’s clear that Barbara Cubin will do anything and everything to raise money, but the great irony is more and more people in Wyoming are seeing her transparent efforts and that’s why she’s forced continually to turn to out-of-state PACs for contributions.’ On July 23, 2006 the Star-Tribune reported Cubin ‘will keep the money she received from former Rep. Tom DeLay’s fundraising committee even though the organization has been fined for campaign finance violations and is shutting down.’ … As of October 2006, Cubin’s position was that she will return the money if DeLay is convicted.”
“On October 22, 2006, after a televised debate with Democratic candidate Gary Trauner and Libertarian candidate Thomas Rankin, Cubin approached Rankin, who has multiple sclerosis and is a wheelchair user. … Cubin said, ‘If you weren’t sitting in that chair, I’d slap you across the face.’ Cubin does not deny the remark, but in a prepared statement, a spokesman said that Rankin ‘misrepresented her … and insulted her integrity during the debate.’ Rankin denies that, and accuses Cubin of a slur against people with disabilities. The Billings Gazette reported that Cubin ‘later apologized, saying she may have been influenced by listening to too much Rush Limbaugh.'”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Cubin
Roger Rabbit Commentary: We still have work to do, my friends. The job isn’t finished. It appears likely that both Jeanne Schmidt and Barbara Cubin will be returning to Congress. If so, let’s defeat them in 2008. There is no place in our government for either of them.
While winning Harris’s seat in Florida would be a sweet symbolic victory — and is the most attainable of the undecided GOP-leaning races — Schmidt and Cubin represent a clear and present danger to our national civility, along with Hater-in-Chief and Assistant Hater-in-Chief Bush and Cheney.
What is it with the US Secretaries of State?
The Bush regime has certainly had its problems with its Secretaries of State. The first one, Colin Powell, lied through his teeth at the United Nations Security Council and this one, Condoleeza Rice, has an acute case of chronic insolence where Russia is concerned. Every so often, Condoleezza Rice has an attack of fury, which seems more like a temper tantrum from some spoilt six-year-old brat in need of a good hiding
http://english.pravda.ru/opini.....499-rice-0
Boy the Russians do not like Mizz Rice at all
Roger do you listen to the radio will you are bloging ? Commentby The Socialist— 11/11/06@ 1:20 am
No. It would disturb Mrs. Rabbit, who is making zzzzzzz’s. Waking Mrs. Rabbit at 1:30 AM is not a wise thing to do.
I should get a pocket radio with earphones … I’ll put it on my Xmas wish list right now.
thanx for the tip, Sosh.
112#
you got that right rabbit
I love the radio. I have a radio in every room even the bathroom
do you listen to our Air America station is Seattle am 1090?
http://www.am1090seattle.com/
I f you are going to get a radio for Xmas may I recommend the GE Super 3 Radio . It is literally the best radio you can buy for picking up am stations It picks up good FM but the am is really superb on this radio . You would have to spend about 250 to 300 dollars to get am equivalent radio and I have actually had a 250 Sanguine 818sc with about the second best Short wave radio you can buy and the GE Super 3 picks up way better on the am wave and there only about 40 or 50 dollars it depends were you buy them. I got mine a couple of years ago for about 43 dollars at radio shack in Stanwood. here is a web site were you can read up on the GE Super 3 http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2.....r_faq.html
The GE Super 3 is probibly my favert thing I own
it has an ear phone jack to :-)
TIME MAGAZINE: GERMANY MAY PROSECUTE RUMSFELD & OTHER U.S. OFFICIALS
“Just days after his resignation, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is about to face more repercussions for his involvement in the troubled wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
“New legal documents, to be filed next week with Germany’s top prosecutor, will seek a criminal investigation and prosecution of Rumsfeld, along with Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, former CIA director George Tenet and other senior U.S. civilian and military officers, for their alleged roles in abuses committed at Iraq’s Abu Ghraib prison and at the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
“The plaintiffs in the case include 11 Iraqis who were prisoners at Abu Ghraib, as well as Mohammad al-Qahtani, a Saudi held at Guantanamo, whom the U.S. has identified as the so-called “20th hijacker” and a would-be participant in the 9/11 hijackings. …
” … German law provides ‘universal jurisdiction’ allowing for the prosecution of war crimes and related offenses that take place anywhere in the world … a similar, but narrower, legal action was brought in Germany in 2004, which also sought the prosecution of Rumsfeld. The case provoked an angry response from Pentagon, and Rumsfeld himself was reportedly upset. Rumsfeld’s spokesman at the time, Lawrence DiRita, called the case a ‘a big, big problem.’ U.S. officials made clear the case could adversely impact U.S.-Germany relations …
“In Germany, investigations are under way in parliament concerning cooperation between the CIA and German intelligence on rendition — the kidnapping of suspected terrorists and their removal to third countries for interrogation. Other legal inquiries involving rendition are under way in both Italy and Spain. … ”
Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/ycdd63
Well, why not? We prosecuted German war criminals. Why shouldn’t our officials be held to the same standards?
ROVE UNDETERRED BY LOSSES
“Despite this week’s repudiation of the GOP, Rove said he believes the party can still achieve a long-term majority. ‘I see this as much more of a transient, passing thing,’ he said.”
http://tinyurl.com/sbn2g
IRAQ WAS NEVER WINNABLE, TIME COLUMNIST ARGUES
“Having more troops in Iraq … (is) unlikely to have produced a different outcome. The resistance to the very principle of American occupation by Sunni insurgents and Sadrists; the Sunnis’ militant hostility to the loss of their power in a democratic system; and the democratically elected Shi’ites’contempt for the Sunni erstwhile elite — all these factors, which are currently driving the insurgency and the civil war, would still be in play no matter how many U.S. troops were in the field. …
“The morbid symptoms that have plagued post-Saddam Iraq were predicted, long before the invasion, by such veterans of the first President Bush’s administration as Brent Scowcroft and James Baker, and also by Marine General Anthony Zinni. They made clear that invading Iraq would be a disastrous strategic choice, and they have been vindicated.”
For complete article see http://tinyurl.com/sdnc4
Roger Rabbit Commentary: A while back, wingnuts attacked me for arguing that no one has figured out how to win a guerilla war, after pointing out that the U.S. and U.S.S.R. lost guerrilla wars in Vietnam and Afghanistan, respectively. I stand by what I said. You fuckers own this turkey. It was your idea, and no one else’s.
PUBLICITY FORCES ‘JESUS CAMP’ TO CLOSE
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....amp08.html
Once more, the bright light of day roots out a nest of cockroaches.
One of the far right’s creepiest hate-mongering web sites, Free Republic, is being swamped by DailyKOS in the ratings wars:
“As of November 9, 2006, Alexa, a company that ranks the Internet’s 100,000 most visited sites … estimated that Free Republic reached approximately three hundred and fifty users per million each day, and ranked at number 2,919 of all sites. Comparatively, by Alexa Internet’s estimation, DailyKos ranked 1,803 and reached 710 per million …”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Republic
Roger Rabbit @ 126 (will be lower when spam is removed)
Isn’t a prosecutor in Germany (and most civil law countries) actually a judicial official, unlike prosecutors in the United States, who are executive officials? My understanding is, that a European prosecutor actually has to exercise reason and judgment, according to the law, and determine whether there is justifiable cause to prosecute a given proposed criminal case. If the prosecutor determines such cause exists, they have to prosecute it. Whereas in the United States, the district attorney or equivalent officer can just take a private citizen’s request to prosecute an alleged offense and say “go to hell” and that is the end of it.
Free Republic, in case you haven’t heard of it, is a U.S.-based terrorist organizaton.
What are you doing posting at 3:30 AM, Richard? Don’t you have a job to go to? Oh that’s right, you don’t.
Isn’t a prosecutor in Germany (and most civil law countries) actually a judicial official, unlike prosecutors in the United States, who are executive officials? My understanding is, that a European prosecutor actually has to exercise reason and judgment, according to the law, and determine whether there is justifiable cause to prosecute a given proposed criminal case. If the prosecutor determines such cause exists, they have to prosecute it. Whereas in the United States, the district attorney or equivalent officer can just take a private citizen’s request to prosecute an alleged offense and say “go to hell” and that is the end of it. Commentby Richard Pope— 11/11/06@ 2:58 am
I don’t claim to be a comparative law expert, but that’s also my understanding.
German courts can assert jurisdiction, but I wonder how they intend to enforce their jurisdiction. Presumably the U.S. — at least while Bush remains in office — would not extend comity to their judicial process nor extradite Rumsfeld and the others. However, it could deter Rumsfeld from traveling outside the U.S., lest he find himself in a country more willing to cooperate with German authorities.
I wouldn’t be scheduling any vacations to Germany in the near future, if I were him.
Soc@123 +/- for spam
I’ve got one of those and I love it. No stereo but I got it to pull in distant AM stations, not to listen to KUBE-93. And don’t you dare try to abolish private property where my radios and computers are concerned.
I used to listen to shortwave a lot but these days all of the stations I used to listen to (BBC, Deutsche Welle, RCI, Radio Nederland Wereldomroep, NHK Radio Japan) stream over the Internet so I listen to them there.
This says it all about moonbats:
Webb’s Rally [Jonah Goldberg]
Good stuff, from a reader:
They had to run that clip because the much of the rest of his speech was an absolute riot.
He started off by mentioning that “tomorrow is an extremely important day for America,” and the crowd went wild, thinking he was talking about taking power. But of course, he launched into his praise of the Marine Corps, and the crowd cheered a little less loudly. Then he thanked all the brave veterans and brave men still fighting, and the crowd cheered a little less loudly again.
Then he mentioned that he received a call from Sen. Allen, and the crowd went nuts again. Then he mentioned how pleasant and dignified Allen was, and the crowd grew quiet. Then he said he was having lunch next week with Allen — and the crowd was dead silent. Finally he told the audience that they should all thank Sen./Gov. Allen for his many years of dedicated service to the people of Virginia — and you could almost hear the people gathered looking at each other asking, “What the $#@! did we just do?”
Can you say priceless?
Moonbats: Now the world librul press is printing the real stories supressed and buried. http://www.tnr.com/blog/spine?pid=56704
Khameini: that the defeat of the Republicans on Tuesday was a victory for Iran
Amazing! The Washington Post now prints this stuff it most recently supressed. Remember I posted links scoffed by IDIOTS like clueless because “it’s not from the MSM”.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00268.html
Well Prince Moonbat Clueless this is the Lubrul MSM and finally the truth is appearing and you CAN”T refute it. Moonbat moron!
Now that moonbats are in charge the telling paragraphs are for people like Clueless:
“Khamenei said military maneuvers in the Gulf this week in which Iranian forces tested new missile systems showed Iran was ready to face any threat.
But, he said: “With the scandalous defeat of America’s policies in Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon and Afghanistan, America’s threats are empty threats on an international scale.””
Yes a moonbat congress makes our supression of terrorism moot to Iran. Good job clueless and Goldie moonbats. Now you have to live with how they see donk. Worthless in deed and action!
You moonbats will NEVER understand the islamofascist mind. Defeatism is coming to a town near you soon, support by Goldie and the moonbats.
I forgot to post this after Tuesday night.
This can NOW be named the Moonbat Dance: http://www.mohammeddance.com/
Now this is funny. Moonbats are attacking Carville over his support for a black man?
ttp://decision08.net/2006/11/10/with-or-without-dean/
Gosh the suppressed real democratic face appears within hours of victory. Too funny!
This is sooooooooooo true moonbats: “The Republicans – who, predictably enough, are not blaming their losses on machines, faulty polling, evil elections officials, and who are not suing county elections officials big time, and who are not bringing in rhyming reverends to point out how stupid the electorate is by damning chads and ballot designs, and who are not demanding fifteen recounts in every close precinct, are quietly licking their wounds and considering what to do differently next time to win.”
Why is Nancy Pelosi implementing party purity tests? You moonbats claimed on neocons did this!
Look at what Pelosi is doing to Jane Harman, fellow moonbat from California? She is ostracizing her, and she supports California’s defense industry and the defense industry supports Harman. Can you say union votes moonbats? What happens if Harman gets replaced by impeached judge Alcee Hastings? Can you say more red votes in California in 2008?
If moonbats only thought through their knee-jerk reactions. This can be used as cannon fodder in 2008. Harman is well respected in the defense community.
Proud Leftist: More original thought from a cut-and-paster? Absolutely! All you are is a cuss-and-pisser!
To help clueless understand party purity, Carville is supporting Harold Ford. Kos is against it.
Carvlle a real Clinton Moonbat! said on the November 10:”Suppose Harold Ford became chairman of the DNC? How much more money do you think we could raise? Just think of the difference it could make in one day. Now probably Harold Ford wants to stay in Tennessee. I just appointed myself his campaign manager.”
So I guess Markos Moulitsas is against Ford, handsome single black man (my wife said that when she first saw him deliver his concession speech) who is not only pro-life and anti-institutionalized gay marriage but he’s – gasp, cough, hack, wheeze – VERY RELIGIOUS? And YES this is the man Goldie looks up to. Has his head far up Markos Moulitsas’ ass that Markos doesn’t need to shit. Goldie eats it for him!
Goldie I saved this post so you can erase it all you want. I’ll repost it.
If anyone should replace Howard Dean as chair, may I suggest Cyndy Sheehan.
Goldie, should Moonbats! be under the Markos Moulitsas vision for the Donkocraptic Party, an irreverant jerk, hater of religious black men? I hope the neocons play this one up.
Can you imagine Harold Ford as DNC Chair and Michael Steele as the RNC Chair? The real Kos/Goldie moonbat will appear for all to see.
Puddy what do you think. Oh… that’s right have to wait for the sun to set.
To all you Muckraker moonbats who love to post from the Muck, why did you skip over this one? Did you think I would miss it?
Can you say culture of corruption heading house committees? Why does party purity leader Nancy Pelosi overlook these culture of corruption members?
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001981.php
Great Saturday morning. I see the trolls – once again – had a Friday night devoid of any real warmth. Must be a pretty lonely life guys, sitting in a room by yourself, a room lit by only the ghostly glare of your moniter. Your only attempt to reach out to human beings is hateful and antisocial. No wonder your stinking party is loosing. All hate all the time makes Klake a dull boy.
And the 6th part of the plan is to reluctantly re-institute a draft – because you can’t fight a stupid war with drafted soldiers who aren’t economically strapped or are making a career of the military. OR – We can STAY THE COURSE! Well, wiseguy, whadya think?
Commentby headless lucy— 11/10/06@ 10:01 pm
Lucy, been drinking more of the JFKerry piss-aid. Now they are stupid, uneducated and finacially strapped? You Moonbats! surely love the military!
It’s amazing how fast Bush cut Rumsfelf from his cabinet. I wonder what Nancy Pelosi said to Bush?
I’m not sure, but can you say Bush is “Pelosi Whipped?”
JCH has been Pelosi Whipped!
As the investigations begin more light will be shone on the sleazy, no bid, corrupt, insane, dishonest, disgusting, hypocritical, pathetic Republican traitors. The Democrats just have to be careful to not show too much sleaze to the American People too fast. They don’t have the stomach. Heck, they can’t even bear to see pictures of flag draped coffin, after flag drapted coffin coming home, much less the blasted bodies of innocent Iraqis.
Commentby Facts Support My Positions— 11/10/06@ 11:24 pm
May I suggest: http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001981.php
All conservatives were “Pelosi Whipped.”
Get used to being “Pelosi Whipped” all you kool-aid guzzeling, State of Denial, meth induced closet homo conservatives!
re159: You are a dick sucking flag-waving hypocrite. If Neil Bush and John Kerry were armed and in the same room and only one person was going to come out of that room alive, I’d put my money on the battle hardned veteran, John Kerry.
If you keep up this level of verbal animosity it can only end with blood in the streets. Your side may start it, but I guarantee you (just like these political wars that your side started) we will end it.
Maybe we should investigate Neil Bush. One Bush should go to jail for the rest of his life just as an example to the rest of that nest of rattlesnakes.
Re 159: We are measuring the neo-cons for a permanent political coffin. “This town ain’t big enough for the both of us.” James Arness (as Matt Dillon).
I didn’t want you to think I was talking about the Brat Pack.
Hey WOS – just keep lapping that bullcrap from your favorite wingnut publications and websites. You’re so reality-challenged its pathetic.
The people rejected people like you. You lost!
re 159: You don’t love the military. You just love military trappings. You are as military as Freddy Mercury.
Queen Gregoire where is the $1000 credit card and a free trip to the Indian Reservation? You know the same service that the Governor of Louisiana gave her citizens when New Orleans floods. Yep you can blame President Bush for that storm French Slough levee breaking in Snohomish County. Does it appear that God only sends disasters to only Democrat States?
The raging Snohomish River blasted a 30-foot hole through the French Slough levee Tuesday evening, prompting evacuations and highway closures and realizing the worst fears of Snohomish County emergency officials.
Highway 9 is closed indefinitely near Snohomish after floodwaters poured into the valley from the levee breach just south of Snohomish city limits.
U.S. 2 was closed in two locations Tuesday, with no detours, cutting off one of the major routes to Eastern Washington.
Showers and partly cloudy conditions are likely today, according to the National Weather Service. The prediction eases to “rain likely” tonight and Thursday. Heavier rain could return Thursday night and Friday with more rain on and off through Sunday.
http://www.heraldnet.com/stori.....ood001.cfm
“Letter Of Apology”
“For good and ill, the Iraqi prisoner abuse mess will remain an issue. On the one hand, right thinking Americans will abhor the stupidity of the actions while on the other hand, political glee will take control and fashion this minor event into some modern day My Lai massacre.
I heard some Arabs are asking for an apology. I humbly offer mine here:
I am sorry that the last seven times we Americans took up arms and sacrificed the blood of our youth; it was in the defense of Muslims (Bosnia, Kosovo, Gulf War 1, Kuwait, etc.).
I am sorry that no such call for an apology upon the extremists came after 9/11.
I am sorry that all of the murderers on 9/11 were Arabs.
I am sorry that Arabs have to live in squalor under savage dictatorships. I am sorry that their leaders squander their wealth.
I am sorry that their governments breed hate for the US in their religious schools.
I am sorry that Yasser Arafat was kicked out of every Arab country and hijacked the Palestinian “cause.”
I am sorry that no other Arab country will take in or offer more than a token amount of financial help to those same Palestinians.
I am sorry that the USA has to step in and be the biggest financial supporter of poverty stricken Arabs while the insanely wealthy Arabs blame the USA.
I am sorry that our own left wing elite and our media can’t understand any of this.
I am sorry the United Nations scammed the poor people of Iraq out of the “food for oil” money so they could get rich while the common folk suffered.
I am sorry that some Arab governments pay the families of homicide bombers upon their death.
I am sorry that those same bombers are seeking 72 virgins. I can’t seem to find one here on Earth.
I am sorry that the homicide bombers think babies are a legitimate target.
I am sorry that our troops died to free more Arabs.
I am sorry they show so much restraint when their brothers in arms are killed. I am sorry that Muslim extremists have killed more Arabs than any other group.
I am sorry that foreign trained terrorists are trying to seize control of Iraq and return it to a terrorist state.
I am sorry we don’t drop a few dozen “Daisy Cutters” on Fallujah. (Note: a “Daisy Cutter” is a 10,000 lb bomb, used to clear helicopter landing zones)
I am sorry every time terrorists hide they find a convenient “Holy Site”.
I am sorry they didn’t apologize for driving a jet into the World Trade Center that collapsed and severely damaged Saint Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church – one of our Holy Sites.
I am sorry they didn’t apologize for flight 93 and 175, the USS Cole, the embassy bombings, etc.
I am sorry Michael Moore is American; he could feed a medium sized village in Africa.
I am sorry the French are French?
America will get past this latest absurdity. We will punish those responsible because that is what we do. We hang out our dirty laundry for the entire world to see. We move on. That’s one of the reasons we are hated so much. We don’t hide this stuff like all those Arab countries that are now demanding an apology.
Deep down inside, when most Americans saw this reported in the news, we were like – so what? We lost hundreds and made fun of a few prisoners. Sure, it was wrong, sure, it dramatically hurts our cause, but until captured we were trying to kill these same prisoners. Now we’re supposed to wring our hands because a few were humiliated? Our compassion is tempered with the vivid memories of our own people killed, mutilated and burnt amongst a joyous crowd of celebrating Fallujans.
If you want an apology from this American, you’re going to have a long wait. You have a better chance of finding those 72 virgins.”
http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/i.....etter.html
klake is homoerotic.
Hey WOS – just keep lapping that bullcrap from your favorite wingnut publications and websites. You’re so reality-challenged its pathetic.
The people rejected people like you. You lost!
It’s worse than just citing wingnut sources; they’re flat-out wrong, probably intentionally. Doughy Pantload (Jonah Goldberg) lied about the Webb rally. You can watch it here. The events described in the alleged e-mail didn’t happen.
Also, if you want to find out Doughy Pantload’s views on the troops, check out what he had to say when he was asked why he won’t volunteer for military service.
Doughy Pantload believes that only those who are less important (and in better shape) than he believes he is should serve in the military:
“As for why my sorry a** isn’t in the kill zone, lots of people think this is a searingly pertinent question. No answer I could give — I’m 35 years old, my family couldn’t afford the lost income, I have a baby daughter, my a** is, er, sorry, are a few — ever seem to suffice.”
That’s right. The Doughy One believes that only single, childless, non-doughy losers join the military.
MWS @ 144
Defeatism is coming to a town near you soon, support by Goldie and the moonbats. Commentby Mike Web SUUUUUUCKS— 11/11/06@ 6:54 am
How has the war against islamofascism gone while you dingbats were in charge of it?
Last I heard, you were looooooooosing. You could stay in Iraq for 100 years and never get anywhere. Wingnuts are idiots.
If you want to beat the islamofascists, give the job to Democrats! All we get from wingnuts is shit like this:
“Congratulations Speaker Pelosi, now let the bombs fall where they may. My prediction: terror attack on domestic soil passenger aircraft within the next six months. Casualties in the 2-300 range. And, unfortunately, maybe that’s just what we need. It’s obvious people don’t remember what happened 5 years ago.
Posted by FullContactPolitics at November 8, 2006 10:52 AM”
Quoted from Sound Politics; to verify, click on http://tinyurl.com/ydlfwu
Can anyone tell me why Stefan allows his blog to be used for advocating terror attacks against the U.S. as a way for Republicans to win elections? I thought you guys were about stopping terror? Guess I was mistaken.
MWS @ 147
Hastings, a Democrat, was impeached and removed from the federal bench (on bribery and perjury charges) by a Democratic-controlled Senate.
If only Republicans were similarly willing to discipline their miscreant members.
MWS @ 151
Geewhiz, MWS, Congress rolls pork and some of its members are less than holy … so what? You guys had 6 years to clean up the Beltway and you made it so much worse. Time’s up. No, the Democrats aren’t squeaky clean — but I prefer our crooks to your crooks. Any questions?
klake — what about the INNOCENT people who were kidnapped, incarcerated, jailed, tortured, and killed by our government? Don’t you think AT LEAST an apology is in order? How about compensation? How about if we take the compensation out of the hides of the people who voted for, supported, enabled, and egged on the criminal Bush regime to commit its criminal acts?
Join up, Klake! Put your courage where your mouth is. Or do you prefer staying home and fighting the “War of Ideals” from your comfy single-wide tin can.
41 etc.
klake: “How is your exit plan working now that the Socialist Democrats are running the show?”
gs: “How is your exit plan working now that the Socialist Democrats are running the show?”
You seem not to realize that Democrats don’t take power until January.
Until then, we have to put up with Republican rule. What’s THEIR plan? It seems like it’s the one that put too few troops on the ground, did’t equip them properly, left the munitions unguarded, allowed Chalabi to have the secret police files on prominent Iraqis, razed Fallujah for what now seems to be no effect, and is creating more jihadists every day.
Good plan. Gee, I hope the Democrats can do as well.
144 MWS
You care what Khameini says about our election?
I don’t.
But anyone would have to be a fool not to know that this election was a massive repudiation of President Bush and his policies by the American people.
146 MWS
““The Republicans – who, predictably enough, are not blaming their losses on machines, faulty polling, evil elections officials, and who are not suing county elections officials big time…etc.”
Neither are Democrats. But the last I heard about that in here they were being taunted for it, somehitng like “You don’t have anything to say about Diebold when you win, hypocrites…”
I think both sides have learned when to fight and when to keep their powder dry.
MWS
“…anyone would have to be a fool not to know that this election was a massive repudiation of President Bush and his policies by the American people. ”
Oh, that’s right, you DON’T know that, do you?
It’s a massive rejection of conservatism
It’s a massive rejection of conservatism Commentby headless lucy— 11/11/06@ 8:36 pm
Not hardly. Look at how many donk candidates went conservative to win the moonbat!
So Clueless Muckraker is wingnut? Thanks but I knew that already.
Washington Post is wingnut? MSM Librul that is!
Reuters is wingnut? MSM Librul that is?
What about Kos Moonbats? Can’t be more wingnut that that. He declared war on Carville?
181 MWS
“Look at how many donk candidates went conservative to win the moonbat!< ?i>”
Let’s.
Six Senate seats and 30+ House seats.
1 anti-choice candiate elected.
2 pro-gun candiates elected.
Other than those, they’re prtetty uch pro-life, pro-labor, budget-balancers, and green. Have fun with that.
Other than those, they’re prtetty uch pro-life, pro-labor, budget-balancers, and green. Have fun with that.
Yep. Check out the “conservative” agenda of Jon Tester.
http://atrios.blogspot.com/200.....5463309008
and
http://www.testerforsenate.com/issues