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– The latest from Libya.

– Vermont Governor Peter Shumlin is set to sign a bill that licenses and regulates medical marijuana dispensaries, once again illustrating that our own governor lied to us when she said she couldn’t do so because of federal policy.

– A police officer was involved in a two-vehicle accident on Rainier Avenue yesterday, but witnesses dispute the report that SPD released. SPD claims that his sirens were on, but multiple witnesses claim they weren’t on until after the accident occurred. Another witness claims the officer was talking on his cell phone at the time of the crash.

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  4. 4

    @3

    Thats funny, I have never seen you post a single pro-police story.

    wonder why that is?

    oh, silly me, I forgot: its not the seattle progressive hipster thing to do.

  6. 6

    @5

    they do? in seattle? LOL…you must be stoned, Lee.

    in seattle, the police are everyone’s favorite whipping boy target.

  9. 9

    @6
    Just to point out something that should be obvious to most people – when police do their job every day, that’s not really news. When they do something extraordinary, like capture a bank robber or a serial killer, that’s on the news, just as it should be. And police officers who do heroic things should be honored for doing so.

    But when they do things that harm the community, it’s often swept under the rug. That’s why I feel this story needed attention.

  10. 10

    @6
    So that is why the US DOJ has opened an investigation on “allegations of use of excessive force and discriminatory policing” (http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/.....t-403.html) by the SPD because Seattle hipsters hate cops? Is that all you got? Pathetic. You American hating right-wingers are so blind to reality, it would be funny if it weren’t so tragic and destructive.

  11. 11

    I won’t believe it until the Seattle Police Union blames the accident on the other motorist, who was probably an Indian woodcarver or some other subhuman species.

  13. 13

    like I said, and the threads and posts(in this thread especially), its fashionably hip to be hating on the police.

    its the cool, progressive thing to do.

    how about the next time you need a cop, go smoke a bowl instead and call your hippy buddies to help out.

  14. 14

    @13
    like I said, and the threads and posts(in this thread especially), its fashionably hip to be hating on the police.

    And as I’ve repeatedly pointed out to you, nothing I’ve written in the 7 years I’ve been blogging has been “hating on the police”. I respect police officers who do their job well and want more of them.

    Unfortunately, however, there are always officers who lie or break the law (or advocate for bad policy), and it’s important that we call those incidents out. Pointing that out is not hating cops, it’s a desire to have a better public police force.

  15. 15

    @13

    Grow up and get a sense of humor. And while you’re at it check the database, it will show that when we’re being serious I’m pro-cop most of the time. Its a good family wage, union job after all.

    If what’s alleged to have happened really happened it needs to be dealt with and these sorts of things tend to not get looked into without a little push from the community.

  16. 16

    Given the choice between having a cellphone and having food to eat, I bet quite a large segment of the population would keep right on yaking.

    http://inhabitat.com/its-offic.....ling-bees/
    Scientists may have found the cause of the world’s sudden dwindling population of bees – and cell phones are to blame. Research conducted in Lausanne, Switzerland has shown that the signal from cell phones not only confuses bees, but also leads to their death. Over 83 experiments have yielded the same results. With virtually most of the population of the United States (and the rest of the world) owning cell phones, the impact has been greatly noticeable.

  18. 18

    We knew you were a racist 2 years ago YLBasement, thanks for confirming it again.

  19. 19

    Lee,

    The news seems to be full of Seattle police getting in trouble. The Channel 7 folks have had a real field day with the Indian woodcarver shooting. Then there was the bit about the cop (last name “Colbain”) who stomped on some Hispanic guy’s head while the guy was handcuffed and on the ground. There was also an instance of a Seattle cop punching a black lady over some minor tiff.

    Afer seeing these stories, I’m glad I don’t live in Seattle or King County.

  20. 20

    Gee, I’ve been friends with cops, participated in ride-alongs, and even wrote a letter to the police department once commending a copy who gave me a ticket (he was so courteous and professional, I thought it deserved being mentioned).

    One of the problems with being a cop is you have to be honest. And that means not writing reports which cover up your mistakes. Because once you do, your credibility in court is zero, and you can’t do your job anymore.

    And if a copy is willing to write a false report to cover up his mistake in a traffic accident, then perhaps he is willing to do other things to cover up his mistakes as well – such as planting drugs on suspect, or even a gun on an innocent civilion who is accidently shot?

  22. 22

    @20
    I got a ticket from a Seattle cop a couple of months ago, the guy was totally polite and professional and I was speeding, so I owned it. I put the check in the mail to pay for the ticket the next day.

    Don’t do 15 over on 99, it could cost you $124 if you do.

  23. 23

    Bernie Sanders, Trey Anastasio, Ben & Jerry, why is Vermont so awesome?
    Maybe because they’re going to “provide public health care to all residents regardless of income”, too
    http://www.google.com/hostedne.....Id=6821586

    The rest of this country and this government (and the trolls here) are so ignorant and backward it is fucking depressing.

  28. 28

    Besides all his other problems, it seems that Newt Gingrich has another obstical to winning the Republican primaries: Only a few years ago he was all in favor of a national government mandated health insurance plan.

    Newt Gingrich Was More Supportive Of Individual Mandates Than Mitt Romney

    But there’s got to be more to this story than the fact that Newt Gingrich can’t decide which policy he supports. Heck, he switched policies three times in one week when he tried to criticze Obama for his actions on Libya. It’s that this information is coming out so soon.

    Sure, it might be some good work by a journalist toiling through the archives to figure out what Gingrich said during a time when nobody was paying any attention to him. But I suspect the gem of the story is, more likely, the subject of “opposition research” released right after Gingrich’s announcement, in order to squelch any momentum before it starts.

    So who would do that? Certainly not the Democrats. Having Gingrich as Obama’s opponant would be a gift beyond the wildest dreams to the Obama team. I suspect it is a potential Republican candidate, who doesn’t want Gingrich to compet with them for fund raising.

  31. 31

    Yep, Newt was all for mandated health coverage:

    “In a June 2007 op-ed in the Des Moines Register, Gingrich wrote, ‘Personal responsibility extends to the purchase of health insurance. Citizens should not be able to cheat their neighbors by not buying insurance, particularly when they can afford it, and expect others to pay for their care when they need it.’ An ‘individual mandate,’ he added, should be applied ‘when the larger health-care system has been fundamentally changed.'”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....61017.html

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Fucking communist! Now watch him try to save his ass by flip-flopping. They both will, him and Mitt both, you’re gonna hear them both say, “I was fer it before I was agin’ it!!”

  32. 32

    @2 and @4: And you’ve probably never met a cop you wouldn’t defend even if he got caught shoving a broomstick up some hapless immigrant’s rectum.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima

    That’s $8.75 million (not counting legal expenses) NYC taxpayers had to pay because some jerk thought a badge gave him absolute power.

  33. 33

    @31
    Newt believes people should be able to own slaves!

    Kentucky Republican Senator Rand Paul said during a Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee hearing Wednesday that those who believe in a right to healthcare actually believe in slavery.

    …

    “Basically, once you imply a belief in a right to someone’s services — do you have a right to plumbing? Do you have a right to water? Do you have right to food? — you’re basically saying you believe in slavery.”

  34. 34

    @23

    The rest of this country and this government (and the trolls here) are so ignorant and backward it is fucking depressing.

    then…like…move away…or something.

    LOL @ “fucking depressing” – only a pussy would pout like that..way to man up there Bono…

  35. 35

    @33

    Newt doesnt stand a chance….he’s dreaming if he thinks he can be president. Wayyyy to much baggage.

  36. 36

    So we have some idiot troll here who thinks that posting a comment that gives both the witnesses’ version and the cop’s version of what happened is “hating the police”?

    Typical rightwing see-hear-speak-no-evil bullcrap. Remember what happened when Abu Ghraib was exposed? “Our soldiers didn’t torture anyone, but if they did and you tell the world about it, you hate America!”

    That’s pretty much the same line the Gestapo and KGB took with their citizens, too, except they made it official.

    We need better trolls. The ones we have are no good.

  37. 37

    @33 “Newt believes people should be able to own slaves!”

    Sure he does. He’s a Republican, isn’t he? GOPers want to repeal the 13th Amendment. In fact, they probably want to repeal all of the amendments, except maybe the 10th.

  38. 38

    @34 I don’t know if you’re a new troll or one of our old recycled trolls — you smell like an un-fresh one — but in case you’re new here I’d like to remind you this is a liberal blog and we have every right to be depressed by the substandard trolls we’re stuck with.

    But in case you’re new, as the ex-officio HA greeter, it’s my duty to acquaint you with the ad hoc HA posting rules. Please pay special attention to #4:

    1. This is a liberal blog.
    2. Anyone can post here.
    3. There’s no censorship, except of JCH.
    4. As liberals, our mission is to verbally kick the living shit out of you America-hating rightwing traitors.
    5. Our terms are unconditional surrender, and there will be trials.
    6. No mercy for wingnuts!
    7. klake is a nazi.

    Any questions?

  40. 40

    Back in my day we had a word for the likes of someone that got knocked while still in high school, by an unemployed guy, and then went flaunting it around. That word was trash.

    http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/brist.....#8211;2949
    Bristol Palin admits her recent change in appearance was due to a procedure — but not plastic surgery.
    The 20-year-old daughter of 2008 GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin tells Us Weekly that she underwent corrective jaw surgery in December, a month after she finished third on ABC’s “Dancing With the Stars.” Her face now appears thinner, with higher cheekbones and an angular jaw.

  41. 41

    ok lee, tell me. are you in favor of the proposal to allow president obama to text all cell phones in case of an emergency?

  43. 43

    @41

    Obama and the Democrats are trying to kill off all the bees to make us all dependent on government grown, fair-trade, organic, foods that were hand-pollenated by communist, illegal-alien, union thugs!

    http://inhabitat.com/its-offic.....ling-bees/
    Scientists may have found the cause of the world’s sudden dwindling population of bees – and cell phones are to blame. Research conducted in Lausanne, Switzerland has shown that the signal from cell phones not only confuses bees, but also leads to their death. Over 83 experiments have yielded the same results. With virtually most of the population of the United States (and the rest of the world) owning cell phones, the impact has been greatly noticeable.

  44. 44

    43 – Yikes! That’s a stunner. Without bees, we don’t have agriculture.

    It’s a miracle then that California is going to get a bumper crop of almonds. That’s totally dependent on bees.

  45. 45

    43 – Yikes! That’s a stunner. Without bees, we don’t have agriculture.

    It’s a miracle then that California is going to get a bumper crop of almonds. That’s totally dependent on bees.

  47. 47

    @45
    ok ylb. we never agree on anything, as a matter of fact we spit venom at each other. but just for a moment, lets call a truce and let me ask you this. is it out of the realm of possibility that there could be companies, for example monsanto, that are ready to grow food without the use of natural pollination, ie bees, and we will be totally dependent on them for our survival.

  48. 48

    @47

    is it out of the realm of possibility that there could be companies, for example monsanto, that are ready to grow food without the use of natural pollination, ie bees, and we will be totally dependent on them for our survival.

    I don’t know about the “ready” part and there are other pollinators than just bees, but as to being “totally dependent” on a handful of companies for our food in America: we already are.

  49. 49

    @42 Even the shitty old trolls need to be reminded now and then of what their role here is — to get kicked around by us enlightened liberals. Without them we wouldn’t have anything to do.

  51. 51

    IRS Cracking Down On Anonymous Political Donors

    This is a good thing regardless of whether the donor is Charles Koch or George Soros. The public needs to know who’s financing propaganda campaigns — so they can make an informed judgement about the message based on the source. American politics is owned lock-stock-and-barrel by Big Money and, if that can’t be brought to an end, it at least needs to be open and above-board.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43.....ork_times/

  52. 52

    Ever since Navy SEALs took down the world’s most wanted man Republicans have fallen all over themselves trying to deflect credit away from President Obama. But the more we learn about the operation, the clearer it becomes that the success of this mission absolutely was a result of gutsy presidential decision-making — without Obama, at a minimum we wouldn’t know OBL is dead, and there’s a damn good chance he’d still be at large.

    Most immediately, Obama made a crucial high-risk decision: Put boots on the ground instead of taking him out with a drone or asking the Pakistanis to do it.

    But the most crucial decision of all was made even before Obama became president: When he, as a candidate, announced to the world that if elected he would authorize “hot pursuit” of our enemies into Pakistan. Bush’s unwillingness to do that is the principal reason why he never caught up with OBL, because in the absence of a policy of aggressive pursuit across national frontiers, the terror chief was guaranteed a safe haven.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43.....bin_laden/

    To really understand this issue you need to know a little history. First of all, Afghanistan is a place, not a country. No one living there considers himself an “Afghan;” he is a Pathan or Baluchi or Hazara or whatever, but whoever he is, he identifies with his tribe, family, and village — his qawm — and his no concept of country. To him, the arbitrary line drawn on maps by 19th-century British administrators, known as the Durand Line, constitution the present-day border between Afghanistan and Pakistan … is a fiction. The big problem with the Durand Line is that it cut the region’s predominant tribe, the Pathans, right down the middle — half of the tribe is in Afghanistan and the other half in Pakistan. The artificial border created by the Durand Line cuts through several other tribal areas, too. The locals, of course, have always moved freely across this line at will — to them, it is invisible. The ultimate result of this that part of Pakistan’s internationally-recognized land area, the North West Frontier Provinces, although ostensibly within Pakistan’s sovereignty, is a no-man’s land governed by no one. Even the Pakistani Army doesn’t go in there. They’re sort of equivalent to the Apache Territory circa 1870.

    This no-man’s land turned out to be of great utility during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan because it provided Afghan resistance fighters a more or less unmolested staging area from which to supply, support, and launch attacks against Russian positions inside Afghanistan. The Russkies bombed it, and sometimes tangled with Pakistani fighters, but stopped short of sending ground troops into what was technically Pakistani territory, which allowed the resistance to operate there throughout that war.

    It’s a natural place for hunted terrorists to hide out from American troops operating in Afghanistan.

    Obama took a big risk by staking his candidacy on committing himself to violating Pakistani sovereignty to hunt down Al Qaeda terrorists. No other candidate had the balls to do it. During his 8 years in office, George W. Bush didn’t have the balls to do it. Obama did have the balls to do it — and got the terrorist where he lived.

    Obama did more than deny Osama a sanctuary. He also denied every Republican challenger the most potent argument the GOP has: That Democrats are weak leaders, too weak to take on the world’s evildoers, and therefore unfit to be commander-in-chief.

    It’s impossible now to hang the “weak leader” or “unfit to command” charge on President Obama. He just proved himself strong enough to take the fight to the terrorists — by taking the fight to the top terrorist and dropping it right in his lap. First a gut shot, then a head shot. GOPer assertions that the SEALs did this, and Obama had no part in it, won’t wash. America has been hunting Osama bin Laden since 1998, and of the three presidents we’ve had since then, only one was willing to sacrifice our relationship with Pakistan to get the terrorists on Pakistani territory — and there’s no frickin’ way they’ll get away with calling that one “weak” or “unfit to command.”

    Obama just destroyed the best issue GOPers had going into 2012. The takedown of Osama bin Laden will be remembered as the defining moment of Obama’s presidency — and the precise moment when the GOP lost the 2012 election.

  53. 53

    @49

    Yes Magoo Rabbit, you are so enlightened that you still cling to the notion that Florida is the #1 beef producer – and that the “western states” dont really produce much food.

    enlightened indeed.

  54. 54

    #53. I think you are correct on this:

    The top 10 US beef producers are:

    1. Texas ———-13.8——- 14.3%
    2. Kansas ———6.7 ——–6.9
    3. Nebraska ——6.6 ——–6.8
    4. California ——5.5 ——–5.6
    5. Oklahoma —–5.4 ——–5.6
    6. Missouri ——-4.3 ——–4.5
    7. Iowa ———–4.0 ——–4.1
    8. South Dakota 3.7 ——–3.8
    9. Wisconsin —–3.4 ——–3.5
    10. Colorado —–2.8——– 2.8

    From:http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What.....n_of_beef_

  56. 56

    # 53: In the first part of last week I had a meeting with a fellow who said he was from Montana where, in his words, “it takes 500 acres to raise a single cow”. He may have been exagerating, but the meaning was pretty clear.

    In the second half of the week, I was in a car in central Florida, where I saw land so fertile that you could raise just about anything you wanted there, be it animal, fruit, or vegitable. A local was telling me that they were having a problem with the gaitors grabbing the newborn calves. It seems that they know when it’s calving season, and come from all over Florida to have a chance at getting at the herds which were repleat with thousands of newborn calves.

    So, I’m tending to trust RR on this issue.

  57. 57

    # 54: If I recall RR’s original treatise correctly, he was referring to cattle being born and raised for a while in Florida, then being sent elsewhere to mature, then being shipped off to grain lots for fattening, then to the butcher houses for processing. In that context, I’m not sure to that the “meat producer” lable applies, because we don’t know at what stage of the life cycle it refers.

  58. 58

    @56

    Then you are as much an idiot as he is. Guess it never occured to you to actually look it up and find out – no, you would rather “trust magoo rabbit”.

    thats how lemmings think….its no wonder you people keep voting for the same fools in this state.

    Florida is not even in the top 10…

    sure as hell glad you arent my lawyer.

    @57..
    No, that was not his original “treatise”. His point was that cattle producers in the west(IE Texas, Oklahoma, etc) dont raise much cattle or food and are sucking off the federal govt, while the libby east coast is doing all the cattle farming.
    His proof? “I heard it a legal conference years ago”. Wow. I guess I should expect nothing less from a state hired lawyer: Full of shit and full of themselves.

    It was magoo rabbits attempt at shitting on the American Farmer(common practice at HA), and it backfired on him because he is completely clueless – as it appears you are as well.

    So…again…maybe now YOU can tell us all how Florida is the NUMERO UNO beef producer in the US…

  59. 59

    by the way, my name is Pitt, and your ass aint talking your way out of this shit.

  60. 60

    @29 “I love it when they eat each other.”

    The other day Pudge and RickyD were devouring each other over at that other site. Hilarious stuff.

  61. 61

    60 – I’ve got to check that out. I love it when Pudge calls his fellow right wingers “liar”.

    It’s been a while since I’ve read the miserable insanity of little Ricky Dumbass.

    Looks like a treat.

  62. 62

    rhp ran and hid faster than a cockroach under a spotlight…

    done…fin…owned….devoured.

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