I got scooped!
John Pennington, the official in charge of federal disaster response in the Northwest, was a four-term Republican state representative who ran a mom-and-pop coffee company in Cowlitz County when then-Congresswoman Jennifer Dunn helped him get his federal post.
Before he was appointed regional director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), Pennington got a degree from a correspondence school that government investigators later described as a “diploma mill.”
I’d been working on a piece on Pennington, but awoke this morning to find the Seattle Times had beat me to the punch. Nobody like’s being scooped, but the Times did a much more thorough reporting job than I ever could have done (they are, after all, real journalists), and it is comforting to know that the MSM is finally looking into these things.
What’s not so comforting is that the man overseeing the federal government’s disaster response in Washington, Oregon, Alaska and Idaho — about one-third of the nation’s land mass — had no emergency management experience prior to assuming his $138,000 a year post at the head of FEMA’s Region X office.
Sure, Pennington had been a four-term state representative, and a rising star in the Republican party, before resigning due to health reasons. But his prior disaster experience consisted of successfully pushing legislation to suspend sales taxes on rebuilding damaged buildings after floods struck his southwest Washington district. And as the Times reports, his academic resume is even shakier than that of his boss at FEMA, Michael Brown.
Just before his appointment, Pennington received a bachelor’s degree in business administration from California Coast University in Santa Ana, Calif., which at the time was an unaccredited correspondence school.
The school is now accredited.
In testimony before Congress last year, investigators for the General Accounting Office identified California Coast as a diploma mill. […] GAO special agent Paul DeSaulniers told The Seattle Times this week that his investigation showed that California Coast University sold degrees for a flat fee.
So how exactly did Pennington get this plum appointment to head a regional FEMA office? None other than the state’s most prominent political fixer, former US Rep. Eleanor Prentice Shaw Jennifer Dunn.
Former GOP Rep. Dunn, who was Bush’s 2000 campaign chairwoman in Washington, recalled that she called Pennington and asked him to fill out an application for the FEMA job. She was responsible for screening and making recommendations on all regional political appointments.
Dunn, who said she was unaware that Pennington’s degree was obtained through correspondence courses, said she was “relieved” when he finally agreed to take the job. Pennington was selected from three finalists recommended by Dunn’s office.
That’s right, the only qualification needed was Shaw’s Dunn’s recommendation, and only those recommended by Shaw Dunn were considered for the job. And so a man with no emergency management experience, and a college degree from a mail order diploma mill, was deemed the person best qualified to manage emergencies in the Northwest region. As Shaw Dunn put it: “He was a natural.”
Makes you wonder about some of Shaw’s Dunn’s other, more recent appointments. (Her son Raymond Reagan comes to mind.)
[Cross-posted to Daily Kos]
You were also scooped by Atrios.
You dont need a person with “emergency management” experience. All you need is a person that listens to his people and makes the logical decisions. Goldy, it is like saying that the mayor needs to know how to supervise the placement of a sewer line, after all he is in charge of the sewer and water system. God you people never stop!
You dont need a person with “emergency management” experience. All you need is a person that listens to his people and makes the logical decisions.”
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!
You want MY WIFE and MY KIDS well-being and survival in a DISASTER in the hands of some politically appointed MORON twho DOESN’T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK HE’S DOING??????
Oh yeah…I’m down with that. Do I still get my tax cut???? That’s what’s important. How ’bout prevailing wage…minimum wage…will we HAVE to pay that? How ’bout a looter…can I “cap” one? I always wanted to…you know…”get” somebody.
C’mon Chucky…whadddayasay…this disaster thing…LOTTTTA $$$$$$ here. So do you KNOW this guy? You got an in.
YOU GOT AN IN!!!! O. K. Chuck! You ARE the MAN. I DID NOT know this. WOW!
OK, then. I’m with you CHUCKEEE BAYBEEEE!!!!
The accreditation of California Coast University is still an inferior accreditation.
http://www.calcoast.edu/fq_accreditation.php
It is from the Distance Education and Training Council, which is composed of second-rate correspondence schools.
A DETC degree would not be recognized by a regionally accredited insitution, such as the University of Washington or Seattle University.
And it certainly shouldn’t be used as a credential for being the regional head of an important federal agency like FEMA making $138,000 per year.
Looks like my post got caught by the spam filter. But this is yet another BS appointment. California Coast University is still a fourth-rate institution. Its accreditation is by the Distance Education and Training Council, which is for correspondence schools. Its degrees would not be recognized by regionally accredited institutions, such as the University of Washington or Seattle University. And someone with such thin experience should not be the regional head of FEMA making $138,000 per year.
Everything I post gets the spam filter? Or is it that I have a different computer I am working from, with perhaps a different IP configuration?
Guess not. Maybe a*c*c*r*e*d*i*t*e*d triggers the spam filter. Goldy probably gets tons of spam from mail order “degree” programs. So I am guessing a lot of comments on this thread will be embargoed in the spam filter for a while :(
Yeah Goldy, the next time you are anywhere near somebody that drops as a result of cardiac arrest, call 911 and request the Ron Sims appointed head of the Emergency Medical Services division rather than the actual paramedics. While Tom is a great “administrator”, (paperwork-finance-etc)he has little or no direct knowledge of pre-hospital EMS and absolutely no experience. He exercises administrative duties only. yet the Seattle-King County system is reknowned as the worlds best. The gentleman you are so quick to attack is partly responsible and has thru his administrative duties assisted in what is nationally known as one of the top 10 in local and regional prepardness and resources. Too bad niether you or the “expose” article didn’t wish to hear about how well he has done his job from the people qualified to make such an assesment.
Goldy,
Right now we are the lucky ones, no storms headed this way. Think of the poor folks in the Carolina’s with Ophela headed that way and with Brownie in the saddle. If I was them, I’d be stocking up on the ole canned goods real good. Hopefully somebody will loot Brownie a tv this time so he can keep up on the situation a little better.
Here is Dick Hainje, FEMA’s regional director for Region VII, appointed in October 2001. Former GOP member of South Dakota legislature.
http://www.fema.gov/about/bios/hainje.shtm
He has a two year degree from Kilian Community College in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. At least Kilian is a legitimate institution that is a*c*c*r*e*d*i*t*e*d by the regional bodies and recognized by normal colleges and universities.
But a two year degree to qualify as a $138K per year FEMA director?
And it looks like Bush is even exporting political hacks. FEMA Region VII covers Iowa, Kansas, Missouri and Nebraska. But Hainje is from South Dakota. Bush couldn’t find an underqualified political hack from within Region VII?
Whaddaya doin’ Pope-
Trollin’ for votes from us lefty’s?
More information on FEMA. There are 10 regions, numbered in the Roman Fashion: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX and X.
You can check out what I am saying and do investigation of your own by starting out at this page:
http://www.fema.gov/regions/
Five of the ten FEMA regions don’t even have regular directors, but merely acting directors: Region I, Region II, Region III, Region VI, and Region IX.
That actually isn’t so bad, since an acting FEMA Regional Director tends to be a career civil servant (likely qualified) from within FEMA who fills in when no political hack is available to be the regular regional director.
In Region IV and Region V, there are regular regional directors, but they don’t have their bios posted on the FEMA website. I wonder why they have omitted their bios?
Hmmmm … I wonder if there is any relationship between John Pennington and Bill Pennington, the guy who was president of IAHA durring Michael Brown’s tenure?
What a difference six months make:
Statement of Under Secretary Michael D. Brown
Remarks to Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Homeland Security
March 9, 2005
Good Morning, Mr. Chairman and members of the Subcommittee. I am Michael Brown, Under Secretary of Homeland Security for the Emergency Preparedness and Response, and head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).
. . .
Our Nation is prepared, as never before, to deal quickly and capably with the consequences of disasters and other domestic incidents.
. . .
FEMA’s dedicated and skilled team of professionals, along with its partners in government and the public and private sectors, must stand ready to provide rapid assistance and resources in emergency situations.
http://www.fema.gov/library/sp.....30905.shtm
So, Idiot-GAF, Wrongboy and ProudtobeAnAss, want to explain again how FEMA had no responsibility in this situation?
Hey, Chuckie already explained it all! We do not need qualified people working for Homeland Security! These jobs protecting our nation are just given out ws politcal payback! Fuck protecting us serfs! We are not the Neo-Con base.
And all you fucking Neo-Con Symps, this includes you. You aren’t theiur base either, you are just Kool Aid drinking fodder, and when it comes to protecting your stupid asses, the Bush administration is gonna giggle like school kids while they watch you die.
Doesn’t look like there will be any improvement soon:
“The decision to remove Mr. Brown came as the entire federal government continued to have widespread and persistent trouble with its efforts to provide aid to evacuees and begin the cleanup in earnest. Hundreds of thousands of evacuees, now safe from immediate danger, faced a second wave of frustration over prolonged delays in finding assistance and navigating a maze of federal and local programs.
In Houston, local officials complained that FEMA’s computer system kept crashing. In Ocean Springs, Miss., officials started turning people away from a FEMA disaster recovery center three hours before closing time, saying they were overwhelmed.
“There is so much chaos and dysfunction going on with the federal government that Dallas can’t wait any longer for federal help,” said Mayor Laura Miller of Dallas.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09.....038;emc=th
Boy, got to suck when the Mayor if Dallas is criticising the Bush administration.
Oh yeah…and chimpy’s waaaaaaaaaay below the Mendoza line of public opinion.
Oh yeah…and he lost Joe Scarborough.
Rujax206 @ 14
Here is a FREE version of that same story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00768.html
Probably was stupid to fire the lady. Even if she did something wrong.
Keep in mind as well how vehemently this Administration and so many of its GOP supporters oppose affirmative action. Today’s FEMA is a great portrait of the sort of frat boy “meritocracy” they believe in.
People used to tell me it’s not what you know, it’s who you know. I guess it’s true.
re 2: Then why do you need anyone in charge of anything if knowing what is happening is irrellevant? That’s what got us where we are today. I’d go into detail except I just know you’re a big picture kind of guy!
IDGAF is the most proficient RIGHTY bullshitter I’ve seen. His lies are the most believable and opaque on first encounter. What he’s saying is that administrators do not need to know anything about the thing they are running. This is absolute nonsense. If it were true, then Donald Trump should be the POPE.
Has anybody besides me (and Mrs. Rabbit) noticed a pattern of putting incompetents in charge of disaster relief for state that VOTED DEMOCRATIC? It makes me wonder if Bush and Rove aren’t consciously scheming to … kill Democrats!
Sooo, the federal Department of Homeland Security is deploying “private contractors” (a.k.a. mercenaries) in New Orleans.
I wonder if this is the beginning of the fascist Bush regime’s secret police — you know, the Gestapo or KGB ….
Don’t overestimate them. They’re G.Gordon Liddy— just younger.
Go for the head.
If you don’t believe RR’s link, just do a Google. Gotta love that outsourcing…
Donnageddon@16
You are such a fucking moron, quit putting words in my mouth and READ what I wrote.
Roger Rabbit @ 26
Evidently, what you are saying about Blackwater is correct.
http://www.blackwaterusa.com/
Looks like the looting from Hurricane Katrina hasn’t stopped yet. Just think what they are going to do with the $60 billion to $250 billion in federal money that will be spent.
Good. I hope the looters and gand members die. Less Democrats.
One would think that with all the taxpayers’ dollars siphoned appropriated to the military the DoD/DHS could do better than to have to hire mercenaries.
Stirke “siphoned” above.
It’s interseting that you’ve suddenly made your blog a service for outing unqualified appointees. Don’t me wrong, I appreciate the service. Anytime, we can make government better, we should.
However, I wonder if you have the integrity to apply the same vigor in outing Democrat appointees?
Something tells me that’s doubtful.
John McDonald @ 34
Somehow I doubt Goldy will out Democrat hacks either.
John McDonald: Outing Democrats? Hell no. I haven’t seen them nail any incompetents yet in WA at the state, county or local levels. They’ll say their all competent in their job. Kind of makes you wonder what is their definition of competence. I have already thought of their commentary against me. I’ll award the lefty with the most pithy comment. But most bloviate here.
I wonder what PacMan would think about mercenaries taking out his people looting. So far he said go get them.
Regarding correspondence schools, we already determined that Loocy was a correspondence school graduate and you love his commentary here.
I am in the bullpen again!
John McDonald: I agree with you and RPope.
I’m still “banned” from Stefan Sharansky’s blog because I said his parents were Eastern European Jews. Apparently an observation like that is RACISM in WHITEWATER WORLD. What a bunch of DWEEBS……..
Goldy is holding my post that Bostonians know who approved Bechtel and the big dig. It was Teddy and Johnny, Mass Senators. They even looked the other way when Bechtel overran the project cost.
http://www.showmenews.com/2004.....ews030.asp
isfullofcrap.com/oldcrap/2005/03/the_kennedykerr.html
It was here but Yahoo took it down.
news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050811/ap_on_re_us/big_dig_1
And this is funny:
http://www.intellectualconserv.....e4318.html
Clueless, JustDumbBozo and Windie: Here is a great site that could educate you all.
http://www.intellectualconservative.com/
@3: Whatever it is you are on, could I have some?
Re: Blackwater… Toy soldiers. Just the thing for the little boy-in-chief…
Listening to some of the post from my Republican opponents, I will concede one thing, in the face of such an unmitigated disaster, George Bush still might come out of this Katrina mess smelling like a Bed of Roses.
While I personally think that the flight suit in chief and his administration are incompetent, a good percentage of my fellow citizens may disagree. Since his days as Governor, Dubya has made no secret of his alliance with those social Darwinist Plutocrats at the Federalist Society and Americans for Tax Reform. Grover Norquist at ATR told Georgie that he wanted “ … to cut government in half in 25 years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bath tub.” And by gosh if George and the Republicans did not deliver (although maybe Norquist was speaking figuratively instead of literally).
The images in the Gulf Coast are exhibit A of the direction this country will be heading for if the GOP succeeds with its agenda. For some it may not matter. I am also realist enough to believe that in the last election, enough people where more concerned with the myths of Gay Marriage Terrorist, Iraq war porn, and the next American Idol then cuts to medical care, the gutting of our environmental laws, and the dismantling of our Federal Disaster relief agency. I also have no illusions about the power of the Rights noise machine, and the willing complacency of the SCLM.
Personally I give boy George 60/40 in his favor.
Chuckie @ 30 “Donnageddon@16 You are such a fucking moron, quit putting words in my mouth and READ what I wrote.”
Just reread it Chuckie, and I will be damned if I don’t see that I read it right the first time.
Oh, by the way, Chuckie. FUCK YOU! You shit fer brains Neo-Con, suckass Kool Aid drinking Muther Fucker!
Wrongboy, here is a site that has a better chance of being right than your site:
http://www.theonion.com
@20
What did she do wrong, Richard? Blow the whistle on a scumbag?
Now HERE is vote fraud! (From the article linked by Richard Pope @20)
“Rove is registered to vote in Kerr County, Texas, where he and his wife own two rental homes that he claims as his residence. But two local residents told the Post they had never seen Rove there.
…
“The attorney told the reporter that it was potential vote fraud in Texas to register in a place where you don’t actually live, and she was quoted as saying Rove’s cottages don’t ‘sound like a residence to me, because it’s not a fixed place of habitation.'”
That’s what she was fired for — blowing the whistle on vote fraud by Karl Rove and his wife.
@31
The Bush administration’s carnival of corruption in Iraq will soon be transplanted to New Orleans.
pull your puddybuddy @39, well….that’s an oxymoron if I ever saw one. ‘Intellectual Conservative’? They negate each other.
Do YOU hate President Bush more that you hate terrorism?
JC Bob, I think it is all about your perspective. In most of the world, GWB is considered a terrorist. Invading, ransacking, murdering innocents, etc. Looks like about a tie on the terrorist vs. GWB debate. In actuallity, GWB and his monkey crew have done more damage to our country than all of the terrorists combined.
Donnageddon@42
Then you are a moron, because my post said nothing about putting unqualified people in charge.
Roger Rabbit@45
Then the traier park you grew up in wouldnt count as a fixed place of habitation?
re 34: What an insight……
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....NlYwM3MDM-
“Vera, Chuck and Dave…..” You’re such a lite-wate.
Roger Rabbit:
Six posts from you out of 54 on this thread. Get a life already. A little does a lot, but your obsessiveness and lack of anything else to occupy your time shows what a general loser and a worthless, nonproductive citizen you are. God help ya.
I like Roger’s comments. Why don’t you go away, Mark1? I wish Goldy would ban you like Stefan Sharansky– the Eastern European Jew— does when people disagree with him and his “Rothschild” agenda.
As predicted, the MSM is starting to hear from and talk to the experts (as opposed to know nothing politicians and others without a clue-like most here at HA)and the immense failures at the local level are begining to come to light. Bang the Bush drum all you want, but this kind of coverage is just begining. As for another prediction, just wait till you hear from the Seattle/King County Fire Dept, USAR and Medical people who returned this weekend from NO. Their assessment of failures at the local level, not federal, not Bush’s is going to be big news. They meet with the media later today and tomorrow.
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9 out or 10 experts agree…BushCo fucked up (the 10th is on the payroll).
Rujax..even for you, you have never been this wrong. Just wait….HeHeHe…Nobody care what you and the rest of left think. Wait till the facts start be analyzed by the MSM and you are not going to like the outcome. Yet another lefty argument is going to disolve right before you eyes and ears.
Oh and what do you know, it begins already!
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/s.....0910.html#
The loudest noises comes from the earliest accusations… but then the facts start to tickle out.
Case in point, is the Negligent Mayor claiming ten’s of thousands are going to be found dead – but then, of course, the FACTS come out.
“A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.” -Winston Churchill, Sir (1874-1965)
… And that’s particularly true, Mr Churchill, when it’s the liberals spreading them.
Chuckie-Trust-Fund @ 54 “Then the traier park you grew up in wouldnt count as a fixed place of habitation?”
Ah, the old Neo-Con Class War machine in action again. Keep ’em coming Chuckie, you are making yourself more Horsesassish with each post!
Time Mag. this week “Bush fucked up.”
Newsweek Mag. this week “Bush fucked up.”
Approval 38% (and falling).
Yup…I’ve never been more wrong. Yup.
IDGAF @ 60, 62; Ass @ 63:
There’s only one president of the United States. His name is George W. Fucking Bush, and the buck stops with him. Nothing you wingnuts say or do, think or feel, shuck or jive, shimmy or shake, changes that fact.
Yes, the facts will come out. But what does that matter? You right-wing fucktards will spin them the way you want regardless. You will soon find that you are just talking to each other.
Sorta like Cindy Sheehan. what’s funny and telling about the left, sh’es been dropped like a bad habit and now couldn’t even get arrested. Now the looney left is too busy dancing on peoples graves and shattered lives absolutely “giddy” that their initial claims and distortions have had some traction in popularity polls of the present administration. Whats going to make the right absolutely “giddy” is where the media’s attention is begining to go. Bring on the all hearings you can. The more the better and watch the American opinion shift faster than the exit polls who predicted Kerry was to be president.
For those blaming the local officials, sure there will be plenty to blame to go around, but at least the NO and LA folks can hold them accountable. As a nonresident of that area, my concern is with the feds (Fema) which by the way, we are paying for, and deserve one hell of a lot more, than a bunch of pure political hacks running the outfit.
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“Sorta like Iraq. what’s funny and telling about the right, Iraq’s been dropped like a bad habit and now couldn’t even get arrested. Now the rummy right is too busy pissing on peoples graves and shattered lives and absolutely “giddy” that their initial claims and distortions have had some traction with the “TRUE BELIEVERS” of the present administration. Whats going to make the right absolutely “giddy” is where the media’s attention is begining to go. Bring on the all hearings you can. The more the better and watch the American opinion shift to wishing Kerry was president.”
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See how easy that is?
Goldy, with all due respect, why is it a surprise that you were “scooped” in this instance? If you aren’t pretending to function as a “real” journalist, then you won’t be in a position to break all that much “news” . . . unless you define it as giving greater visibility to information dug up by other lefty activists that has been ignored or downplayed by the mainstream media. Using the term “scoop'” can confuse people — and not just those of the right — as to whether you are a journalist or an amateur blogger/activist. You may find it advantageous to play both sides of the fence in the short run, but at some point this could come back and bite you in the ass.
@ 59 Lucy:
Not going anywhere. If you can’t handle differing opinions, then that’s on you. Banning people because of non-agreement amounts to censorship. Now we couldn’t have that now could we? Selfish headless wonder! Obviously you cannot see the light without a head and eyes in it. Try hangin out with Ichabod Crane; something tells me you two would get along great!
IDiGAssFuckers @ 54 “Sorta like Cindy Sheehan. what’s funny and telling about the left, sh’es been dropped like a bad habit and now couldn’t even get arrested.”
Oh, really IDGAF? And your proof of this? Because the MSM has its camera’s pointed at NO? Really? Cindy and the rest of the Gold Star families (you know, the ones who have given all they can for America) is still criss crossing America and will be converging in Washington, DC on September 21, for the United for Peace and Justice Mobilization Sep 24th-26th.
Cindy and the rest of the Patriots of America are not going away ASSHOLE, no matter how much you wish they would. And it is tragic that another FUCK-UP by the Bush Administration has killed more Americans, but it all converges in 2006 when the congress gets returned to AMERICA and the Neo-Cons are kicked the hell out of power. Then it is on to impeachment, guilty verdicts, and a trial at The Hague.
Keep smiling, sunshine, the light at the end of the tunnel is the Freedom Train ready to smack your Neo-Con Ass!
I hope she DOES crisscross America till the cows come home.
I hope DOES crisscross America with an enire entourage of cameras, microphones, soundbites and press releases.
God, a really BIG hope would be that she’d crisscross America with Screamin Dean, Man-Whore Kerry, and Michael Mooron in tow!
Careful what you wish for, Ass.
Run Cindy! Run!!
Just curious, Ass, why do you hate the troops? Why do you hate the parents of the troops? Why do you hate America?
Why do you want to continue to destroy America? Seems that you, and your knd are the only TERRORISTS America has to fear.
Reply to 51
“Do YOU hate President Bush more that you hate terrorism? Comment by JC Bob— 9/11/05 @ 6:30 am”
Not yet, but I’m getting there fast.
Cheesy Chuckie @ 54
I assume you’re referring to what is now post no. 48?
Rabbits don’t grow up in trailer parks, dumbass. Everybody — except you — knows rabbits live in gardens.
@ 51 There is no difference between Bush and the Terrorists. Except that Bush is much more dangerous.
Roger Rabbit is registered to vote at the University District P-Patch.
But Roger Rabbit actually lives in Green Lake Park and eats at Stefan’s Garden Diner up the hill on Keystone Place.
Just curious, Ass, why do you hate the troops? Why do you hate the parents of the troops? Why do you hate America?
Why do you want to continue to destroy America? Seems that you, and your knd are the only TERRORISTS America has to fear.
Comment by Donnageddon— 9/11/05 @ 2:13 pm
I am the step parent of a “troop”, you fool. I have utmost respect for him and all those serving our country.
I despise big mouth blowhards like YOU, and Michael Mooron who enlist stupid little women like the hapless Sheehan woman who are are not even deserving to shine the shoes of my stepson and his colleagues out there protecting and defend your right to be ignorant blowhards.
Ass, as usually, a true neocon/castrated blowhard. Stick it up yours! You continually dis the troops and now you are patriotic? Yet another ‘multiple personality’ neofuckingcon
I thank your step-son for his service, even when he is sent in harms way for no reason. But you, Ass… you are an ignorant fuck who is a hapless participant in the endasngering of your step-sons life, and the endandergment of America.
No one has enlisted Cindy Shehan you MORON. She started this by herself, and the Gold Star Parents (which you are NOT a member of) have joined her because they are PATRIOTS! While you applaud NERO as he fiddles America away, they take shit from MORONS like you, who are not fit to vote, your mind is so adled by the Neo-Con Kool Aid.
You are a TERRORIST, and your Step-Son, should be spitting on you, rather than you spitting, as you do, on Him.
Fuck you, you Troop Hating Neo-Con Idiot. I hope your Step-Son lives to come home to slap you in the face for your ignorance.
Stick it Up YOUR— 9/11/05 @ 5:10 pm
I defy you to find even ONE POST where I have ever demeaned
(“dis” in your sad, pathetic, uneducated lexicon) America in any way, shape or form.
I have a stepson who has been serving in Iraq since January, little pissant, protecting your right to be, act and sound stupid.
I suggest your write him a note of thanks… but be sure to use a grammar/spell check so you don’t further embarass yourself.
Chris doesn’t want your thanks donnieboy – he’d find your thanks an insult when it has been prefaced by America-hating the way yours has. He’s find your thanks a slap after you’ve applauded and encouraged the likes of Mooron and his hapless sheep Cindy.
So, keep your bullshit gratitude and your phony honor, he’ll protect you anyway.
Ass said : “I have a stepson who has been serving in Iraq since January, little pissant, protecting your right to be, act and sound stupid.”
So Ass, tell me ONE way that your Step-Son serving in Iraq had protected any right.. for ANYONE but Haliburton, and the other FOGs?
Just one, you shit fer brain MORON! JUST ONE!
Ass, you called a Mother who lost her Son for NOTHING in Iraq a “hapless sheep”.
Burn in HELL you Fucking Evil MONSTER! You do not deserve your brave step-son Chris. You do not deserve anything but what you are getting.
The WORST.COMMANDER.IN.CHIEF.EVER
But Chris deserves better. And you will never understand that, until this incometent Administration has destroyed your life.
You are the most dispicable person on this Blog.
You are a traitor to your step-son Chris and every soldier in the field.
Go to North Korea Asshole, you will feel at home at home their.
You do not deserve anything but what you are getting.-Comment by Donnageddon— 9/11/05 @ 5:38 pm
Oh you’ve got that right, kiddo – I’ve got a spouse of 26 years who loves me, 3 wonderful, healthy, productive children, 2 terrific stepsons with wonderful wives and charming babies, a fantastic home, good friends, solid faith, an education and a rosy future.
What is it you have again Mr-one-room-apartment?
Oh, I remember what it is you have: disdain for everything good an honorable this country has to offer.
Ah, ASS, “What is it you have again Mr-one-room-apartment?”
I have a clean conscience, and a healthy world view. (oh, and a lot of the crap you described except for the divorce you forgot to mention)
Ass, I have so much more than you it is almost illegal.
Perhaps some day you will see the truth and enjoy my freedom and happiness.
And, Ass, it is you who disdain America’s freedoms. You hate those freedoms. And every one of your posts makes that clear.
Keep it up!
Soon you will realize what a fool you have been.
Or not.
Either way, you are lost.
america Land That I love!
I am sure you despise those words.
Your ceaseless and repetitive invectives are getting monumentally BORING.
Go floss or something.
america Land That I love! -Comment by Donnageddon— 9/11/05 @ 6:15 pm
Right.
You love it so darn much you can’t even be bothered to capitalize properly.
Ah, Ass, touche. I did nto capitalize properly.
You support and defend the enemy to America.
“Your ceaseless and repetitive invectives are getting monumentally BORING”
And yet you are the TROLL. You are the Terrorist. And every gramatical error you find does not change this fact.
Freedom and love of country is never boring, Ass. But you would know nothing about that.
Sorry kiddo, I’m in the MAJORITY in this country which leaves you to be the minority FRINGE.
Did you floss yet?
Ass, if you can ever bother to read a paper or new magazine, you will find you are not just the fringe, you a completely the infra-red fringe.
I have a post held up, I think because it has an URL, but here are the facts Mr. Ass
“Only 38 percent of Americans approve of the way Bush is doing his job overall, a record-low for this president in the NEWSWEEK poll.”
“most Americans, 52 percent, say they do not trust the president “to make the right decisions during a domestic crisis†”
“only 38 percent of registered voters say they would vote for a Republican for Congress if the Congressional elections were held today, while 50 say they would vote for a Democrat.”
This is from a recent Newsweek poll, the URL being held up for now.
Finge? Mr. Ass, you are as fringe as it gets!
Goldy, I hate to seem like a Neo-Con Whinery, but please release the posts!
I don’t need to read the paper to know that America has voted the party that shares my views into the Oval Office, a MAJORITY in the Senate, a MAJORITY in the House, a MAJORITY of Governors mansions (30/50) and a MAJORITY of the state legislatures.
Ass, I knew long ago that you are imperviece to facts. Bush has an approval rating of 38% and All Of America states that they will NOT vote for ANY Republican by a percentage of 50 – 38 percent.
Fringe? You view represents the finge of all fringes.
Suck on that!
Until, Goldy releases the facts.
2006 will be known in history as the year America rid itself of the fascists.
I do sincerly hope the Republican party survives. Just so that we keep a balance of powers.
Wrong again donnkey – 38% approval ratings are not reflective of the power he still commands. You have seen and you will continue to see his agenda moved forward and his nominees confirmed.
As far as All Of America states that they will NOT vote for ANY Republican by a percentage of 50 – 38 percent I call bullshit on you, pal. Maybe in an DonkeyAssUndergrounders poll or a Mooron.orgy poll.
And as I said earlier Run, Cindy Run! and please drag the assorted nutburgers along with you so ALL of American can confirm how much they want to keep the grown ups in charge.
Let me break your insane posts down for you, Ass.
“I’m in the MAJORITY in this country which leaves you to be the minority FRINGE.”
“38% approval ratings are not reflective of the power he still commands.”
You change with the wind, Ass. You have no ethics in discourse. You are a liar. Which matches your identification as a Neo-Con Fascist.
“As far as All Of America states that they will NOT vote for ANY Republican by a percentage of 50 – 38 percent I call bullshit on you, pal.”
Nope it is a national Newsweek poll. Soon Goldy will release the URLs.
You are busted. “pal”
You define the fringe in the more enlightened post-Katrina America.
You are an evil Dinasour.
Rest in piece.
Dumbass.
And the very first proof that will jump up and smack you nutburgers across the face and an oh so satisfyingly rebuke the illegitimate queen the will be I-912 passing with an overwhelming majority.
I wonder if we’ll be treated to more nutburger whines like these:
I-892 loses BIG! (But I’m too depressed to gloat.)
by Goldy, 11/02/2004, 10:35 PM
Andrew, this is what psychiatrists call “catharsis” and what us Jews call “whining.” Don’t worry. It’s healthy. -Comment by Goldy— 11/3/04 @ 12:29 pm
Peace, and in pieces.
Ass, why do you continue to post? Anyone with a computer (which means everyone reading this) can go to Newsweek.com and see that you are an ignoramous!
Wow I’m duly impressed, donnnkey, that you actually understand and are able to apply the use of homonyms. Now, if you could find moment from all that time and work a rented one room apartment involves perhaps you could get to work on your grammar studies.
See you in November sweetcheeks (wasn’t that how your cellmate loving referred to you?)…and I will be gloating on November 9, 2005.
Oh, by the way, can you say CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS?
Ass, I see you have no rebuttal from the facts.
You will never amount to anything in the Neo-Con world.
You are an embarrassment to Karl Rove. You are a “man” without an island.
My sympathy to you.
Donnageddon @ 101 etc
The Newsweek poll is for generic GOP vs. Dem votes for Congress. That is what is 38% GOP vs. 50% Dem. Not for knee-jerk no matter what voting. But still pretty bad news for the GOP.
And Ass, your “a rented one room apartment” Class Warfare comment is unbecoming an intelligent being.
But it is par for the course for a Neo-Con.
Richard Pope, read it again. You are COMPLETELY WRONG! That is the results for all people polled.
And you want to be elected for something other than Dog Catcher?
And Mr. Pope, every LIE you tell here will be reminded to voters in the election.
You, your royal High ASS, continually downgrade the countries soldiers…except for your beloved step son. Do you think your stepson has any more rights than Cindy Shehans son? Absolutely not. One day you will wake up, alone and shriveling, and wonder what happened to your ‘beloved president’, you know, the one that will go down in all history books as the worst president and biggest idiot in the history of this great land. Get a grip on yourself little shriveled one, time has run out on your ilk……the new day is dawning and you will left running in circles, afraid of everything, including little bunnies.
From Newsweek “Reflecting the tarnished view of the administration, only 38 percent of registered voters say they would vote for a Republican for Congress if the Congressional elections were held today, while 50 say they would vote for a Democrat.”
Retract your LIE, Mr. Pope!
Mr. Pope @ 111 “Not for knee-jerk no matter what voting.”
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Do you have a High school diploma?
Rebuttal FROM the facts??
Huh? What does that mean exactly?
Was that an inept attempt to ask for my rebuttal OF the facts
So Newsweek has a poll… I’ll take your word for it…
Whoop de do!
A poll is merely a snapshot at one, single, solitary moment in time. And, as you should have learned from the polls before the last election and the exit polls on election day, they are only significant FOR that moment in time.
Tomorrow, next week, next month, next year they will say something entirely different.
The only moment in time that will really count will be the one on election day, after the polls close and the do nothing donk are, once again, whining in their beer.
As wiser folks than I have pointed out, approval ratings have zip, zilch, nada, noting to do with POWER to get an agenda passed.
The only moment in time that will really count will be the one on election day, after the polls close and the do nothing donk are, once again, whining in their beer.
As long as nutburgers like the hapless Sheehan woman and her puppet masters Soros and Mooron are front and center for the dems, as long liberals try to force a homesexual agenda on mainstream America, as long the hollywood elite sneer at mainstream America, as long as the race pimps and the class warfare generals of your party continue their voodoo dances in the public arena, America will turn their back on them. America doesn’t want screamers representing her in the world, nor does she want those who will disparage her in the morning while trying to win control of her in the afternoon. America doesnot want a party that tells her how bad she is, but one that tells her how great she has been, can be and will be.
Mr. Pope @ 111 “pretty bad news for the GOP”
No! The only bad news for the GOP is its inability to get rid of the Bush Neo-Cons.
The only GOP hopefuls that have a chance in hell is those that denounce these fascists! I imagine the GOP can have a great future. But only after they rid themselves of the Neo-Con Cancer.
Ass @ 118 “Bla bla Nonsense, blind allegiance to Bullshit, evasion from reality, racism, ignorance, proud stupidity..” and then there is this
“So Newsweek has a poll… I’ll take your word for it…”
Gosh, Mr. Ass, did someone cut off your internet access? I guess not, you managed to post this drivel.
ProudAss, I’d like to see review how they actually asked the questions for this poll. I’d like them to ask:
Do you really think Hilary will take on the terrorists?
Do you really want Hilary in charge of your health care?
Do you really want Hilary in charge of the military after the way she treated the Marine Corp guards at the White House when she first arrived there?
Do you really want Hilary in charge of the pocketbook when she said she would raise taxes?
Do you think Hilary will take on the UN and clean up that cesspool?
Do you really want Hilary in charge so she can call “Right Wing Conspiracy” when Bill has another in-house oral check?
Hmmm… I wonder, I wonder!!!!
If that Newsweek poll is what get’s you though the night donnnkey, I’m happy for you.
But don’t mistakenly believe that it’s going to prevent me from a good night’s rest on my Serta, because it won’t.
Regarding Newsweek – I DO NOT support them in any aspect of their so-called “reporting” and therefore, will not drive up their number of hits by going to their site. I feel exactly the same way about ALL of the Seattle papers, Time magazine and the NYT. Until such time they revert to the actual task of reporting FACTS and letting me decide their significance instead of editorializing them, I will continue to ignore them.
PuddyBud… who the hell is “Hilary”
Are you drunk or just stupid?
I wonder.. I wonder…
Ass @ 122 “But don’t mistakenly believe that it’s going to prevent me from a good night’s rest on my Serta”
Give a kiss to your wife Serta for me.
122-
OK PissAss, I get it…and it makes sense now. You actually DO NOT know what is going on. Figures. Just like fearless leader. Nice. Now I know why you seem to be disconnected with reality. What an idiot.
Oh I see.
In your little mind, you think that those are the ONLY sources of news. That explains quite a lot.
Well, newsflash rugrat, there are plenty of source for FACTS out there…and no, I don’t mean The Onion.
I have to admit the whole “donnnkey” thing is pretty imaginative!
Ass, you are not a complete Moron. You are an idiot-sevant, in a completley useless and dangerous way.
AQss, @ 127, no their is a whole world of news for you to explore beyond FOX news, Mike Wiener-Savage, Hannity, Limbaugh and Liddy!
A whole world of information that serves a purpose other than feeding your preconceived prejudices!
I hope you will explore them sometime.
Psssttt…. the world? Not flat.
Believe it or not!
Perhaps you actually meant idiot savant?
The polite term is autistic savant… but then again the operative word there is polite…
BTW Puddy and others, I know I have a real problem with “There” and “Their”
Deal with it.
WingNut Daily is NOT reality based reporting.
No Ass, I mean idiot savant. You are not acoustic at all.
News flash donnnkey – I despise Savage, I find Hannity mind-numbingly repetitive and, do we even get Liddy in this market?
I will admit to Medved often, Limbaugh occasionally and Andrea Bocelli CD’s always.
Ass called a mother of a dead soldier a “hapless sheep” then he lectured me on politeness.
Ass, I do not mean to be impolite, but
FUCK YOU!
What, Ass, is Savage too much a liberal for you?
Ass, admitting to Medvid is like telling the whole world you gave the Queen Mother the clap.
Shame!
ProudAss, you haven’t lived until you get a good groove on some Thelonius Monk & Miles Davis!!!
I like the donnnkey. Mark the Redneck gave me the idea for Donk****don. Same number of letters but Donk is always out front. I also liked PacMan calling Donk****don IT because no one knew Donk****don was a man until IT admitted having the miniature tripod appendage attached to his nose!!! Remember Donk****don answered to Donna for the longest time. Gender defender issues?
Donk****don, I have always misspelled her name on purpose. My way of saying there is no respect for the lady!!! Get it? Go back, way back and Google it donk****don!!! Eventhough you are deficient in your copying skillz, I know you can search the Internet!!!
She is a hapless sheep – they aren’t even letting her speak her own mind anymore – they herd her out of the trailer, poke her to recite her talking points then herd her back into the trailer.
Just because you don’t LIKE the facts does not make the telling of them impolite, sweethcheeks.
Did you all catch how Tim Russert has started to come around, when he took on the Mayur Nagin interview?
What about dem buses? But the President called for an evacuation on Friday. What JustDumbBozo, the President called for an evacuation the same day Govnur Blanco called for her emergency declaration? Wow, imagine the truth is finally coming out! So now I wonder, did Blanco think it all by herself or did Bush give her the idea? I bet the latter because Russert is on the trail!!!!
PuddyBud, you little fuzzy guy! I know you were just playing with me. But honestly I have never denied my gender, I just never figured it mattered.
And your name ain’t Puddy, and mine ain’t Donnageddon.
Or is your name puddy?
Gender defender issues?
When asked for comment, the hapless Ms. Sheehan said, “Bah, Bahhhhh”
“With the President back at his Crawford ranch, the anti-war protest right outside his ranch is getting a lot more media attention. ABC7 looks at who is financing the operation and who’s providing on-the-ground support.”
“Leading the group is Fenton Communications employee, Michele Mulkey, based in San Francisco. Fenton specializes in public relations for liberal non-profits.”
“Their bills are being paid for by True Majority, a non-profit set up by Ben Cohen — of Ben and Jerry’s Ice Cream fame.”
“Cohen’s group has teamed up with Berkeley based MoveOn.org, an anti-Bush group co-founded by Joan Blades.”
“Current Democratic National Party Chair Howard Dean’s organization Democracy for America is also involved, as is the more radical anti-war group Code Pink organized by San Francisco’s Medea Benjamin.”
Ass @ 139 “She is a hapless sheep – they aren’t even letting her speak her own mind anymore – they herd her out of the trailer, poke her to recite her talking points then herd her back into the trailer.”
Ass, you post crap you hear on the Medvid show and have no idea how badly you have been hoodwinked.
But just in case you have evidence.
Post it!
OR QUIT SMEARING DEAD SOLDIERS PARENTS YOU EVIL THUG!!!!
Oops! I’m sorry, I missed a tag to close the bold!
Ass @ 142 your post unequivically proves you are criminally insane.
Even in your own backyard donnnkey: http://www.kingcountyjournal.c.....tml/215088
And then of course, that PR firm and those paying for it that weren’t herding her then admit to taking a “less active role” with the hapless ewe when things don’t go quite the way they planned… God, no wonder liberals are so confused.
Ok, so I get this SPAM email… I swear it’s from ballsless looney or another of the marginal libs that make their home here – nah, I don’t think it’s you donnnkey or bunnybutt… but there are a few others… well read it and tell me whose style you recognize.
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Nope, no hidden words like in the scams trying to get a PayPal password.
Lefties: Another serious question for you. Whom is helping these Hurricane Katrina victims get back on their feet. Since JustDumbBozo says it’s not FEMA, and we know Nagin and Blanco can’t buy a clue, who is it? Evangelical Christians!
So Goldy, I would dare you, but dj would scramble up some nasty epithet, why not thank your Evangelical enemies for them living their religion and spending their own money? Not like moonbat donk congressional people who love spending our money to help. My wife asked me the other night how much are donks spending? We Googled the Internet. Maybe I put moonbat or donk as part of my search stem and that’s why it didn’t display much!!! I see them creating benefit concerts, but we asked each other besides Celine Dion, whom else on the moonbat is coughing up the big bucks?
WOW. Ass, are you joking? Are you that paranoid?
PuddyBud, any source you have for evengalical Christians providing more support to Katrina victims than non-believing-in-supernatural-
beings Americans?
WOW. Ass, are you joking? Are you that paranoid? -Comment by Donnageddon— 9/11/05 @ 10:47 pm
Oh, good grief.
Is your head stuck so far up your butt you couldn’t recognize that, while the damned email was one I actually received, my attributting it to collective asses was in jest?
But really donnnnk, you have to admit, it’s eerily reminiscent of ballsless looneys screeds
Ass @ 152 I am sure you intended to send a cogent message with this post. But honestly, I cannot decypher it.
Try again.
Donnageddon (you use my name I’ll use yours), look at the churches through Google.
Google churches help katrina victims, and you’ll see they are doing more than just money. Our church last Sabbath in an on the spot offering collected $5700 as members walked out the door from the sermon. My family is working with openyourhome.com to see if we qualify. Our church is going to sponsor families when they are allowed to. Over 2000 students from our church universities paid $$$ from their own pocket to pay their way to perform relief volunteer efforts. What has your side done.
I know of Kurt Schilling of the Boston Red Sox is sponsoring people in Boston. He’s a known righty.
Also I’ll be the first righty to commend Al Gore until he played politics on airlifting 270 people out. Who would have thunk he had that type of resources being a vice-president. Oh that’s right his speaking fees for Moron.Org brings in a pretty penny.
PuddyBud, I know that all Christian churches are sending aid to NO. I am so thankful to them for it! That is (in MHO) one of the great things all churches do!
But you may not know that most “non church going” people are doing the same. We, Christians, Jews, Muslims,… what the hell Wiccans (I do not know anyone of this faith… but) are doing the same.
We are all Americans. We are all humans.
But the actions of those in POWER, those who can most quickly, and have the responsability entrusted to them, are in question.
Our Leaders are in question.
And they need to be held responsible.
Nuff Said!
Sigh.
Ok donnnkey, we’ll take it one step at a time:
1. I received a screwy email;
2> I posted the screwy email and highlighted the text in italics;
3. Said screwy email contained incoherant ramblings that made absolutely no sense;
4. I was joking when I said it soundedlike it could have come from the loony wing of the HorsesAss poster.
5.But you have to admit, Ballsless looney consistantly makes no sense in his/her/its ramblings.
That’s all there was to it.
Hey JustDumbBozo read this link please: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05254/568876.stm
“Jason van Steenwyk is a Florida Army National Guardsman who has been mobilized six times for hurricane relief. He notes that:
“The federal government pretty much met its standard time lines, but the volume of support provided during the 72-96 hour was unprecedented. The federal response here was faster than Hugo, faster than Andrew, faster than Iniki, faster than Francine and Jeanne.”
For instance, it took five days for National Guard troops to arrive in strength on the scene in Homestead, Fla. after Hurricane Andrew hit in 2002. But after Katrina, there was a significant National Guard presence in the afflicted region in three.
Journalists who are long on opinions and short on knowledge have no idea what is involved in moving hundreds of tons of relief supplies into an area the size of England in which power lines are down, telecommunications are out, no gasoline is available, bridges are damaged, roads and airports are covered with debris, and apparently have little interest in finding out.
So they libel as a “national disgrace” the most monumental and successful disaster relief operation in world history.
“You cannot speed recovery and relief efforts up by prepositioning assets (in the affected areas) since the assets are endangered by the very storm which destroyed the region. Oh yes you can, just ask JustDumbBozo. He has the willpower, brainpower and the technical know how to perform that task!! Just ask him! Make him your everready bunny (oh that’s roger wabbit) for the next disaster. He’ll tell you zackly where to put dem assets and they won’t be destroyed..
“No amount of yelling, crying and mustering of moral indignation will change any of the facts above.”
“You cannot just snap your fingers and make the military appear somewhere,” van Steenwyk said.”
What do you think? Pittsburgh, is that blue state country?
Sure, Ass. Back away from the keyboard.
Go to bed.
Everything will be OK in the morning.
Our Leaders are in question.
And they need to be held responsible.
Nuff Said! -Comment by Donnageddon— 9/11/05 @ 11:16 pm
That’s fine, as long as you are consistant with wanting to hold ALL the leaders involved responsible, not just the ones with whom you disagree.
Actually donnnnkey, I think that every time ballsless loony goes off on one of his/her/its ranting, raving toots, I’ll just quote the babblings of Rogelio Mercado back at him/her/it/
Hells bells, he/she/it may even be able to explain it to us.
Donnageddon, when my latest post is approved, read from Jack Kelly regarding FEMA. I have now provided two posts from level headed journalists who are looking at the Katrina issue.
ProudAss, the name is Ballsless Lucite. Clear to look through because there are no balls to be viewed (or coherent thoughts) and wants to fuck righties in the ass (recently said in another thread).
LMAO! Actually, it reminds me of the other day when clueless or fire was attempting to convince us of his proficiency in French and the translations came back as babble!
Ok, tomorrow comes too soon, I’m heading to bed.
G’nite all.
I know you love me Donnnkey – smooches sweet cheeks.
Whoops… another view of the local fiasco from the Palm Beach Post. Isn’t that the paper of record for the hanging chads, and the one who doesn’t like one of their richest residents, Rush Limbaugh?
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/s....._0910.html
I attend church on Sabbath (Saturday). I didn’t have an opportunity to view the Captain. Here is a funny blog entry. Even the NY Times is coming around on Mayur Nagin and Guvnur Blanco. For your reading pleasure.
http://www.captainsquartersblo.....005416.php
Palm Beach……Lots of Democrats……are not taking in any New Orleans blacks. This PROVES Democrats hate blacks. In addition, no blacks are headed for Chapiqua, NY, proving that Hillary hates blacks. Democrats: racists haters of blacks!!!
Wow, pud, an oppinion piece from Pittsburg citing to a “guardsman” (strange no rank or reason to supposed he knows anything or can be authoritative, isn’t it?), and a piece citing Jeb Bush appointees backing up the president…, wow, there could be a chance that they are right, but, no, they are wrong. Since you have refused to read any actual reporting on this, I’ll again post you many of the answers, and hope you actually read the truth:
A good article on what when wrong and how the Bush administration failed:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....rrer=email
And to just put to bed some of the favorite wingnut lies:
First, Michael Medved’s lie that no one thought the levees would breach:
“On Saturday, according to Army Corps homeland security chief Ed Hecker, the corps had warned FEMA that Katrina would probably send water over the levees, and quite possibly breach them. ”
That Bush’s distraction in Iraq didn’t contribute to the failures:
“The federal disaster response plan hinges on transportation and communication, but National Guard officials in Louisiana and Mississippi had no contingency plan if they were disrupted; they had only one satellite phone for the entire Mississippi coast, because the others were in Iraq.”
That Bush cared:
On the day the Hurricane hit, “On a trip to Arizona, the president shared a birthday cake with Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who was turning 69. During a speech about the Medicare drug plan, Bush noted that he had just spoken to Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff – about immigration.”
That Mike Brown may have had some ability as head of FEMA:
Monday, after the Hurricane had hit, “The federal interagency team seemed to recognize the urgency of the crisis at a meeting that morning, discussing the potential for six months of flooding in New Orleans, and a preliminary Department of Energy conclusion that as many as 2,000 of 6,500 oil and gas platforms in the Gulf could be affected. But before noon, FEMA’s Brown sent a remarkably mild memo to Chertoff, politely requesting 1,000 employees to be ready to head south “within 48 hours.” Brown’s memo suggested that recruits bring mosquito repellent, sunscreen and cash, because “ATMs may not be working.””
Thank goodness for the Military, it is just a shame that Bush and Brown didn’t use them:
“At the U.S. military’s Northern Command, officers had been watching the storm since early in the week and had started sending Army brigade commanders and their staffs to the three affected Gulf states by Thursday. “We were all watching the evacuation,” Maj. Gen. Richard Rowe, Northcom’s top operations officer, recalled. “We knew that it would be among the worst storms ever to hit the United States.” But on Monday, the only request the U.S. military received from FEMA was for a half-dozen helicopters.”
Paragraph after paragraph it appears that if there was something to do wrong, the Bush Administration did it. Read the article, but I will leave you with this, from Sept. 1, 2005:
“Anger was also rising at federal officials, who often seemed to be getting in the way. At Louis Armstrong International Airport, commercial airlines had been flying in supplies and taking out evacuees since Monday. But on Thursday, after FEMA took over the evacuation, aviation director Roy A. Williams complained that “we are packed with evacuees and the planes are not being loaded and there are gaps of two or three hours when no planes are arriving.” Eventually, he started fielding “calls from airlines saying, ‘Well, we are being told by FEMA that you don’t need any planes.’ And of course we need planes. I had thousands of people on the concourses.”
At the convention center, thousands had gathered by Thursday without supplies. There were no buses and none on the way. Nagin, almost in tears, issued a “desperate SOS.”
But official Washington seemed not to be watching the televised chaos. Bush was still insisting the storm and catastrophic flooding his own government had foretold was a surprise. “I don’t think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees,” he said.
Later, in another television interview, Brown insisted that everything was “under control.” And though the crowds had started to flock to the convention center two days earlier, Brown said: “We learned about the convention center today.””
Now, Wrongboy, why do you hate America so much? Why do you hate the victims of Katrina so much? And why are you always wrong?
Robert Johnson, Retired New Orleans Police Department Captain:
“We are now reaping the benefits of a welfare state.”
“For more years than most can remember, we have been told by those holding office that they will take care of us. We have provided food, clothing and shelter to the extent that the recipients became entirely dependent on government resources to live. They have reached the point that no longer do they have the knowledge to take care of themselves. They will sit there and drown or go hungry, and curse the fact that the government has not gotten them out of this mess.”
“When it is all said and done, there is but one person who is responsible for me, and that is me. The responsibility falls to me to take care of my family, not the government. Society, not government, has an obligation to provide care and sustenance to those who, because of age or physical impairment cannot take care of themselves, but able-bodied people who stand around and complain that no one is doing anything for them deserve whatever the fates cast in their direction.”
“Life is hard, and you either get tougher or you get washed away—it is as simple as that.”
“Politicians will never, ever take care of you—they only want one thing from you, and that is to stay in power as long as they can. In a situation like Katrina, they will stand in front of the cameras and microphones and denigrate everyone above them in government to take the eye off of their pathetic efforts.”
“This is a situation that they have created, and now the good citizens of the area will have to step in and clean up the mess that has been created by the politicians. It won’t happen overnight, but it will happen—there are too many good people who live in that area for it not to happen.”
“I love the people of New Orleans and the surrounding parishes, but I despise the politicians… I just hope that when the area is rebuilt, they stay away from the massive welfare system they had before—absolutely no good comes from welfare. It depletes available resources, making it ever more difficult for what passes as government to respond to the true needs of the community.”—Robert Johnson, Retired NOPD Captain
Wrongboy @ 149:
Wrong again, it is Moveon.org:
“Last Thursday, as tens of thousands of families found themselves newly homeless, MoveOn launched an emergency national housing drive called HurricaneHousing.org. In just one week, over 235,000 beds have been offered to Katrina victims through the site.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/.....er-moveon/
See:
http://www.hurricanehousing.org/
See also:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200509120002
Proud to be an Ass:
Got a link? Or is this just spam from some Freeper email tree?
Got a link? Or is this just spam from some Freeper email tree? -Comment by JDB— 9/12/05 @ 10:53 am
Sorry, I don’t provide troll welfare. Do your own work.
Again I call Bullshit to your stoopidity JustDumbBozo. Here is what JustDumbBozo left out in all of his wonderful posts in the same Washington Post article he posted but chose to leave out.
“Even the gloomy Hurricane Pam drill had optimistically assumed the levees would hold, but they were designed to withstand only a Category 3 storm, and Katrina created at least five breaches at three locations. Now the waters were rising.”
“At the Superdome, city officials reckoned that 9,000 people had arrived by evening to ride out the storm. FEMA had sent seven trailers full of food and water — enough, it estimated, to supply two days of food for as many as 22,000 people and three days of water for 30,000.”
In St. Bernard Parish, a hardscrabble industrial zone just outside New Orleans, emergency manager Ingargiola realized that his entire community was marooned. He did not even have contact with his own emergency shelter, so he didn’t know its roof had blown off. But local officials immediately launched rescue efforts with boats they had prepared in advance. They figured help was on the way. – What did I say JustDumbBozo? Other parishes just as hard hit had boats. But not Orleans Parish..
“As water poured into the city, as many as 20,000 more residents poured into the Superdome. “People started coming out of the woodwork,” Ebbert said. The stadium was hot and fetid, and tempers were flaring. Ebbert said he told FEMA that night that the city would need buses to evacuate 30,000 people. “It just took a long time,” he said.” – JustDumbBozo why is that? Even Tim Russert asked the Mayor why didn’t he use the buses. He had no answer. See the Meet the Press transcript.
“As systems either were not followed or broke down, people just went to what they believed they could handle. Every man for himself,” said Ghilarducci, Blanco’s adviser. “You don’t use the system, you don’t use resources effectively and it breaks down.” – What you say? Don’t use your system Govnur?