Summary: On April 29, 2009, in a speech on the House floor, Rep. Virginia Foxx claimed that Matthew Shepard’s death was merely the result of a robbery gone bad. While his killers Aaron McKinney and Russell Henderson did rob him, they also admitted that they were well aware of his sexual orientation and pretended they were gay to lure him away from the bar he was in at the time. The most striking feature of the case, of course, is that during the course of a normal, simple robbery, the victim is not generally beaten, tied to a post, and left for dead.
This may not be the way to re-build brand Republican. Yeah, it’s great to cater to the ever-shrinking GOP base, but everyone else finds such comments repulsive.
Movement conservatism, which was never conservative anyhow but rather a radical, theocratic malignancy allied with corporate interests, has now become the almost exclusive province of crazy and ignorant people.
I know there are still some fine, upstanding, “keep your hands off my stack jack” types out there at the grass roots level, but you’d think it would be clear to old-school Republicans by now that if they don’t manage to do something about the lunatics in their party, the American people are going to continue to reject the GOP.
The marginal tax rate we can all have a nice debate about, unless the debate is blown up ahead of time by crazy people. You can’t debate crazy, you can only hope to keep the crazy people from getting the keys to the car. Seriously, how much further off the rails can the GOP go? I guess we’re finding out, as this sort of thing seems to be happening with increasing frequency.
It’s a Republican instinct to defend a thief.
Not everyone who identifies themselves as Conservative, Libertarian, or GOP agrees with this. But, sadly, as usual the ignorance of the rabid left paints all those slighty towards the center of themselves with the same brush. Typical.
So…a hate crime isn’t supposed to be a hate crime if the perpetrators profit from it?
@2 You should have known that what goes around comes around. So stop with the whining already.
The big-brother-government, big-spending, big-robbing GOPers have long since abandoned any pretense of being “conservatives.”
America, regrettably, is now a one-party country. The Republican Party is not a “party” at all but merely a social club for a motley collection of misanthropes, bigots, thieves, neo-nazis, and torturers who were kicked out of the Boys’ Club and AA, and have nowhere else to go.
@2 Not in anyone’s wildest imagination could anyone who identifies with today’s GOP be considered anywhere within light-years of the “center.” The current crop of conservatives are so far out in rightfield they think Hitler was a lefty.
What a creepy rancid old CUNT !
re 2 — i’m just rubbing your nose in your own shit.
Inevitably, some wingnut will claim Foxx is correct because ABC reported on a new story from the convicted killer. However, you may want to read this first (his archiving sucks – just scroll down to Sept. 27, 2007 for the main response to this crap). The nut:
All ABC reported was that McKinney claimed he killed Matthew Shepard because Shepard was a predatory homosexual and, some four or five years after that story failed to earn him a sympathy verdict, started pedalling another sob story titled “The Crank Made Me Do It.
You can get to this from the link I posted above, but, in the interest of highlighting it, here’s a direct link to a must-read on the subject from David Neiwert.
Obviously this kind of rabid gay hating will not bring swing voters back to the GOP fold.
I know the Republicans have a base to kiss ass to…so do the Democrats, but have some respect for the dead. This was a ‘kid’ who was was beaten until he died and left tied to a post. That wasn’t a robbery “gone bad”. They didn’t “accidentally” kill him while trying to take his wallet. It was murder. Trying to diminish that, to lesson the crime as if it was just an honest mistake by two good “family values” conservative boys is f**king sick. I bet this sob would call the KKK lynching a black guy just an honest rope tying accident….or a neighborhood greeting gone bad.
Stop and think for a moment…
How many Democrats are in Congress who you can point to and say they are genuinely crazy? I mean crazy in the sense that they truly beleive the things they say which are demonstrably/factually/irrefutably false? And not in the rhetorical flourish falsehood (A La Bobby Jindall) but ludricrously unintelligent falsehood?
I’ll bet, if pressed, Bachman and Foxx would still say today that Teri Schiavo could have recovered someday, never mind that autopsy thing…(Yes, i know this is presumptuous of me.)
@10 When RickD went into denial mode last night saying that right-wing extremists weren’t responsible for recent cop shootings and the killings at the Unitarian church, as well as the OKC bombing, I considered linking to Orcinus so he could educate himself. Then I decided not to do so. There’s just no point in engaging in this stuff with a psychotic. It’s a waste of time.
There ARE crazy people on both sides! It’s just easier for the Republicans to be crazy IF their issue happens to be “faith” based. If the Democrats get too crazy and start making things up (some have), you can just call them on the ‘facts’ and make them look silly. But if someone insists on something (like banning gay marriage) because an invisible floating head in the sky told them to do it…how can you refute that? How do you argue with make believe? You can’t counter them with facts, they don’t use facts, just faith/opinion/feeling. You just have to let them rant. I encourage it. It just digs them in deeper.
Since you claim ricky won’t admit the “recent” cop shootings are from right-wingers, will you admit that the majority of cop shootings are from people that vote democrat?
Will you admit that anti-american bombers on the left such as bill ayers and his band of america haters aren’t held to the same standard of those on the right?
Nope, you can’t admit that. Like lee said…
President Obama has a 73% approval rating.
http://people-press.org/?s=prc
This would no doubt be explained by our teabagging trolls as 73% of Americans hating America. Is it any wonder that Republicans can’t win elections anymore? We could use a viable second major party in this country. As Republicans follow the Bloated Bloviator over the cliff, as they call for secession and revolution, they’re really saying that they don’t care if they’re a major party anymore.
Seattle liberals call Tubaman’s death a robbery gone bad.
@16 The goatfucker says, “will you admit that the majority of cop shootings are from people that vote democrat?”
No.
The crazed goatfucker continues, “Will you admit that anti-american bombers on the left such as bill ayers and his band of america haters aren’t held to the same standard of those on the right?”
I see that Marvin’s jumped the goat again. Care to stick with events taking place in the 21st Century, or at least the last 10 to 15 years?
No wonder you fucks are so damned hopeless.
@18
So you’re saying he was attacked for the sole reason that he played the Tuba? If he had been into the Double Bassooon he might have been O.K.?
Seattle liberals say that Troll pulls the strangest things from his ass.
@15 Another lame wingnut attempt to say Democrats and Republicans are all alike. No, we’re not. Not even close. Not even in the same galaxy.
The cretins who tortured and murdered Shepard are doing life without parole. They will never get out of prison. Depending on whether they live a normal human lifespan, they’re going to spend 50 to 60 years in a 6′ x 8′ concrete cage. Say whatever you want about Shepard, bigots! His killers are rotting in a living hell right now, and have absolutely nothing to look forward to in this life, except a lifetime of more of the same. Suck on it, righties.
@20
So you’re saying that Mathew Shepard was attacked for the sole reason that he likes to sniff other men’s butts? (Or whatever it is gay men find sexually arousing)
This was no accidental death. These bastards went in to a gay bar posing as homosexuals themselves. Lured this kid outside ganged up on him and beat him, pistol whipped him until his skull fractured, tortured him with a knife then left him to die on a fence.
I’m not one for “hate crime” legislation because a violent crime is a violent crime and those conservatives deserve to spend the rest of their lives in prison.
But, what I won’t do anymore is push back on Republicans when they make such stupid ass, intentionally inflammatory statements.
Instead, I’m encouraging them to continue down this path of self destruction. It can only lead to good for our country.
I know, I know that’s counterintuitive. But, what is now mainstream Republican ideology is so far to the extreme, radical right, that they are truly out of touch and out of step with 75% of America.
With that kind of a minority for a political base they will never have broad governing powers until they move far, far to the left from where they are now.
The only exception to this rule is that they need to apologize to our soldiers they trashed for following the Bush torture memos and going to prison for it while the Bush admin stood silent.
Also, they need to apologize to Gold Star mothers who dared to speak out against Bush’s illegitimate war in Iraq for which their sons and daughters died for.
That I won’t give a damn inch on.
@25
You’re right. Tubaman’s death at the hands of those niggers was no accident.
@2
It would help if the rest of you on the right would speak up a bit and denounce the haters.
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Thanks for that. It’s a start.
@ 26:
Thanks, Troll. Keep on sayin’ what you’re sayin’ exactly they way you say it.
Believe it or not, I think you’re being a good America.
Oh, one more favor, can you quote Rush Limbaugh for us?
Thanks again.
@24
Uhhhhhh…Yeah. Pretty much what one defendent admitted to and another was convicted of. They killed him because he was gay.
Exactly as I suspected.
And the best steve can say is let’s keep it within 10-15 years?
priceless
Steve, I’m glad you are back to goat sex in every thread like I wanted you to. I enjoy watching you and byebyegoober make this blog an unwelcome place. Don’t forget, sound politics is getting twice as many hits as this blog. Kudo for your efforts.
@30 Seems like the bombthrowers are on your side right now. You know, traitors like Glenn Beck and Chuck Norris (world’s worst actor) who’re saying wingnuts should bear arms against the Government of the United States and overthrow our elected leadership by force. Sounds pretty Stalinist to me.
@30 (continued) Oh, and let’s not forget that Timothy McVeigh, mass murderer of innocent babies and toddlers, was one of yours, too. Bill Ayers never killed anyone, but those rightwing freaks who blew up the federal building in Oklahoma City to make a statement against government regulation killed 168 innocent people …
Have I ever mentioned that Marvin fucks goats? I know that I’ve meant to, I just don’t recall if I’ve gotten around to it yet. But yeah, he fucks goats. The way I hear it, he fucks them by the light of the full moon. Rather odd behavior, wouldn’t you say? If he could catch them, I bet he’d fuck rabbits too. But I suspect they’re just a little too quick on the feet. Did I mention that he fucks goats by the light of the full moon?
I’d mention how Puddy always shows Troll some love when he talks about “niggers” but we’ve been there, done that already. We know Puddy is good with this shit. After all, Troll is one of Puddy’s 27 sockpuppets, so of course he’s good with it.
Did you see that Sean Hannity conducted a poll on his site asking his viewers if they prefer a military coup, secession, or armed rebellion? Armed rebellion won.
Sean Hannity – traitor.
haha!, Jon calls Republican’s crazy while posting from behind the walls of the David Goldstain sanitarium.
How’s that for irony?
Right, and they’re doing it with about 1/2 the contributors and 1/3 of the posting content.
Their secret?
1/100 of the regular posters that fixate on man/goat kama sutra sex, legalizing Lee’s drug addiction and scatological bodily functions.
Little ricky D.:
Been to(un)sound Politics and…the number of hits means absolutely nothing. It is the same idiot commentators bleating the same putrid, illogical, shallow and juvenile crap.
Quality of posts versus quantity of traffic….no contest. There is much more thoughtful writing and posting on here (‘cepting for the idiot trolls).
Stefan is posting about ten times about his silly and juvenile lawsuit that we will have to make up for in taxes. big deal.
Pudge is posting on and on about the popular vote amendment….poor Pudge has not been part of a logical argument in years.
Every time I go to uSP, I think to myself. Good, this is all the dimwits have….they will be in the minority for another 50 years.
Name a single original idea coming out of that cesspool that can improve our state?
Yup, just a bunch of illiterate and ignorant right wing whiners and troglodytes.
And by big idea, I mean something that can be used, not just the over-inflated ego (or belly) of Pudgie boy.
You are calling the words of ylb and byebyegoober “thoughtful?”
You really don’t get it. :(
@39 “You really don’t get it.”
You keep fucking with GBS and you’re gonna “get it”.
The only thing I get from gbs is a good laugh.
The pussy, yes, gbs is a fucking pussy, talks tough hiding behind a computer screen knowing I live far enough away he will never have to back up his words. He NEVER had any intention of backing up his words.