Hey King County Police Officers Guild… if you thought the law and order types on the Seattle Times editorial board would choose public safety over union bashing, well, think again:
With all due respect to the men and women who put their lives on the line to protect residents, union leaders behaved in a shortsighted manner. There is apparently a last hope that if deputies come forward in the next few weeks to forgo the 2011 pay raise, some positions could be saved.
Um, as I told Reagan Dunn… what the fuck did you expect?
Yeah sure, you may put your lives on the line for us and all that, you know… when you’re out on the streets. But once you’re sitting around the negotiating table, you’re just another dirty, public employee union in the eyes of the anti-tax crowd. And as anybody who has read the Seattle Times op/ed pages—and nothing else—knows, it’s the public employee unions who are the real cause of our current budget crisis. (Declining revenues and a tax base that’s steadily shrinking as a percentage of the economy apparently have nothing to do with it.)
The irony of course is that police unions are just about the only public employee unions to reliably endorse Republicans and their anti-tax agenda. I guess ye really do reap what ye sow.
Isn’t there a bit of a problem giving police (or any other category of workers, for that matter) a 5% per year “cost of living” increase, when the cost of living hasn’t increased in two years? (per Consumer Price Index)
Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.
guild does not equal union. other than that, spot on as usual, goldy!
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Yup!
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Call it what you want, but if you want a raise in the future…you’d better start supporting the same people who are willing to ask the taxpayers to raise taxes.
Once again Goldy, someone who hasn’t had a job in years and remains chronically unemployed as you are to date, discussing unions and labor is completely and totally irrelevant and amounts to a fart in the wind. It seems you have taken a page out of little YLB arschloch’s playbook.
Are you still mad about that tenderhanded Libtard wanna-bee “reporter” that rightfully got ejected from S.P.D.’s Guild Office awhile back or something? Appears so. Get over it already, and I hope you get thrown out of the airport on your way home from Philly. ;)
Good day all.
Richard @1,
Well, that depends on the context. The sheriff’s claim the raise was in exchange for other concessions. And often unions negotiate increases above the inflation rate to make up for give backs in previous years. So it’s not that cut and dry.
My only complaint with the sheriff’s is that all the unions were told that the only way to avoid big layoffs was to make wage concessions, but the sheriffs didn’t, and then expected those that did to take even more layoffs on their behalf. But I don’t begrudge them the 5% pay raise they would’ve had… had we passed the necessary taxes.
Learn from California. The unions (PD,Fire, Teachers, Prison system) have broken the state with raises, benefits, perks and fat retirement pensions.
Just like they broke the oil industry!
“The unions (PD,Fire, Teachers, Prison system) have broken the state with raises, benefits, perks and fat retirement pensions.”
Gee, you would think that little helpless California was brought to its knees by the BIG BAD LIBERALS, not the short-sighted, ignorant morons that passed Prop 13. Take away the income and that makes any large expense more profound, dumbass. If Cali wants to get out of its financial hole, the first thing to do is stop digging.
Unions always get blamed whenever there’s a insipid little GOP cockroach spouting off. the unions represent the workers against the Corporate Machine. We have them to thank for every decent work related benefit. Corporations. on the other hand, have given us Enron, AIG, Goldman Sachs, and the new Republican Congress.
Face it, the only America Republicans love is the one printed on our money.
With all due respect to those who serve and respect … serves ’em right. Maybe next time they’ll choose their friends more carefully.
@8 We’re not California.
@1 Maybe the index hasn’t moved, Richard, but the cost of living sure as hell has. My health insurance premiums are going up $100 a month next year. Food containers in the grocery store are smaller and cost more. Gas prices at the pump are up 20 cents from two weeks ago. The COL index is a joke.
Guess what happens when prices go up and incomes don’t: People buy less, the economy sinks further, more workers lose their jobs, and government revenues continue declining.
The wingnut economic prescription — cut wages, lay off workers, and slash public spending — is the quickest and surest route to a double-dip recession and declining standard of living.
What a bunch of morans (sp intentional).
http://www.balloon-juice.com/w...../moran.jpg
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mor*on: a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment.
mor*an: a Republican/Tea Party version of the above.
Just for clarity.
re 6: “Once again Goldy, someone who hasn’t had a job in years and remains chronically unemployed as you are to date, discussing unions and labor is completely and totally irrelevant and amounts to a fart in the wind.”
GWB?
I’ve always wondered why the police guilds endorse the guys who do the union bashing and who blame all of our problems on public sector employees. Makes no sense.
If someone pissed on my feet, I wouldn’t vote for them, but maybe that’s just me.
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You think The Governator was bad for California, wait until Rerun Jerry Brown and the whack job-former mayor of San Francisco get access to
the public coffers. As my friend Dewey Cheetum said above, LEARN from California, or the coffee drinking, Berkenstox n’ sox Hemp underwear liberal elite from Seattle will break the state.
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Prop 13 bankrupted Cali. It made a big noise and won with a majority of the vote. Yay!
Then the Piper came for his due. Look at what it cost.
Howard Jarvis was the goon responsible for Prop 13. He was a Reaganite, a neo-con and greedy backstabbing asswipe. This was not the work of “coffee drinking, Berkenstox n’ sox Hemp underwear liberal elite” dipshit.
Butt smears like Jarvis and yourself fear liberals because if we get our way, your kind won’t be able to steal from your brother. You won’t be able to piss on minorities. You’ll have to pay your taxes like the rest of us and have to send your kids to school with kids of other colors and faiths. Oh, the horror!
My kind will dance on your grave when the last of you are finally extinct. If there’s a fucking world left.
Where the hell is my damn hemp underwear?????
(Good post, Goldy.)
Liberals are more likely to support paying cops a fair wage. Conservatives are more likely to support letting cops punch, shoot and/or tase whoever they want. Cops have to choose which kind of support they want. So far they’ve selected the latter kind of support over the former. We all have our priorities, I suppose.
Apparently David Aquarius has no relatives who live in California…
In California, the Legislature dominated by DUMBOCRATS stopped or stymied Arnold’s various cost cutting initiatives. All the CA Props in 2005 Prop 73-77 were rejected and cheered on by the HA Libtardos here.
Since their death CA has dropped into a death spiral. Can’t blame it on Arnold, no matter how hard you try.
Can you identity the conservatives in Seattle who “support and allow” this?
Didn’t think so fool!
So David Aquarius why are rich liberal millionaires leaving CA to go to other states? Increasing CA TAXES. How many liberals voted for Jarvis’ proposition David Aquarius? Look it up and get shocked and amazed.
Wait a minute… Instead of signing a petition why don’t they go on television and hand Odumba or Gaithner their tax checks.? Didn’t they hide their millions in low tax instruments? Why don’t they just write a big fat check right now? More DUMBOCRAT theater of course!
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You just keep posting bs and hope no one checks your facts.
The California Budget Project did study in 2008 after a 1% tax was put on people making over $1 million. The number of millionaires filing INCREASED by 37.8 percent.
http://cbp.org/pdfs/2008/0808_.....payers.pdf
re 18: You packed more cliches in that statement than Rumsfeld on Dexedrine.
He was an addict in the 70’s.
“The common side effects of Dexedrine may include, nervousness, insomnia, hostility, and addiction as well as feelings of suspicion and paranoia. The worst is known as “amphetamine psychosis”, which causes hallucinations and delusion.”
http://www.counterpunch.org/heard01232003.html
Perfect description of Rumsfeld, no?
What does that have to do with millionaires leaving CA? What does that have to do with liberals voting for Howard Jarvis’ tax initiative? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Great attempt at deflection. Puddy already delivered the facts and ylb has them in his databaze. If you forget the facts Don maybe you need to contact ylb and he can provide the links.
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Here’s a few more for you: The great unwashed, dope smoking, VW micro bus driving, Tie Dye, Berkeley types. Don’t forget to refer to your dog-eared copy of Catcher in the Rye while you wear a beret and smoke a Camel or Clove cigarette.
As for David “The Zodiac” Aquarius; only undereducated mental midgets like you spew verbal drivel and resort to name calling. You can’t engage in decent discourse (or intercourse, I bet)without resorting to an Ad Hominen debate. Moron.
I can’t understand why any god fearing republican, armed with his or her bible in one hand and AR-15 in the other would need any stinkin gubmint provided police for protection. Next thing you know they will be wanted medicare to pay for their power scooters!
“When you have seconds to live, the police are just minutes away”.
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Actually absolutely everything. You’ve provided nothing of substance or facts to back up your assertion. You have not shown any study which interviews millionaires and asks the reason they left. My evidence shows that millionaires are not leaving, they’re increasing. The information I’ve provided does not interview either, but it’s not needed because it uses statistics from the California Department of Revenue to show that millionaires are not leaving en masse to avoid taxes, but are staying and there are more of them (maybe they are coming to California in order to pay more tax or, using your logic, they feel a kinship to California so are still paying the tax while living in Arizona). So the study shows that taxes do not cause people to flee.
And what the fuck do you care if some Hollywood star prefers a house in Aspen to that of Malibu?
Before you spout BS, use a little logic, it would keep you from looking like a liar.