Seattle Times executive editor David Boardman wants to let P-I loyalists know “who we are — and who we aren’t.” But mostly, just the “aren’t” part.
Apparently, they’re not a right-wing paper, and they’re not a left-wing paper. They’re not a suburban paper, but they certainly haven’t been the urban paper. They’re not the establishment paper, but nobody in their right mind would ever label them an anti-establishment paper.
So then David… what the hell are you?
And perhaps, maybe, isn’t the typical daily’s lack of a clear identity, let alone a little personality, part of the industry’s problem? I mean, criticize FOX News all you want (and God knows it’s easy), but they’ve been damn successful embracing both bias and personality… and at least most viewers know what they’re getting when they flip it on.
(Oh… and this conceit that reporters are automatons, unhumanly free of their own personal bias… or that of the guy who signs their paycheck and approves promotions… I just don’t think readers are buying it anymore. Which may help explain why fewer and fewer people are buying daily newspapers.)
The truth is, apart from the masthead, most Seattleites couldn’t tell the Times and the P-I apart. So I’m not so sure that promising readers you produce pretty much exactly the same product as the paper that just went under, is a sound, long term business strategy.
Greedy corporate conservatives are just plain EVIL spews:
And perhaps, maybe, isn’t the typical daily’s lack of a clear identity, let alone a little personality, part of the industry’s problem?
I think that is one reason why people like blogs like HA. It takes the news and applies a distinct point of view, some personality.
Daddy Love spews:
So when’s Cynical coming in to tell us how today’s stock market uptick really translates to wild approval of Obama’s plans and performance?
Oh yeah, and -mumble- about the newspaper business.
Mr. Cynical spews:
Why should a newspaper have a clear ideology…political, urban v. rural etc???
I thought they were supposed to primarily report the news and have a balanced editorial staff & positions that give arguments for all sides??
Sounds to me Goldy like you are saying the Times is doing a decent job??
Mr. Cynical spews:
DL–
We sold 4 short-term positions this AM.
This is the same game we were able to play last year.
JRCC, Goldman Sachs, Sears & NOV.
Plenty of gold nuggets out there.
Don’t buy today.
Sucker Rally…may last another day or so.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@4 So you’re one of those leeches who drives the market into the ground by shorting stocks? Doesn’t surprise me, in view of the rest of your record here. What an unpatriotic shit. But I agree with you this is a sucker’s rally. The markets have barely begun to assess the damage done by your boy Chimp. It’ll take a generation to unwind the toxic effects of Wingnut Whack-O-Nomics.
Roger Rabbit spews:
I think we can all agree that Fox isn’t a “news” channel, it’s a propaganda channel.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Speaking of which, I’m not sure what Cynical means by “balanced,” although I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t recognized balanced news reporting if it kicked him in the shin. He keeps confusing the editorial page of the Washington Times for “news reporting.” Personally, I don’t see why news organizations should give equal space to, say, Joe Goebbels, Joe Stalin, Joe McCarthy, or the Republican Party. None of them have anything worthwhile to say, and all of them have sociopathic proclivities, so why let criminals, charlatans, and liars use the front page of a newspaper to advertise their twisted ideologies?
Mr. Cynical spews:
steve–
Puddy wanted me to let you know he is Goldy’s spam filter and Goldy won’t release so Puddy can’t respond.
The only way to reach Puddy is thru his e-mail address which you can find by googling it on HorsesAss.
Good luck.
Mr. Cynical spews:
Hey Rog–
You think Health Care is expensive now??
Just wait until it’s FREE!
Troll spews:
Interesting article on what happens to towns the lose their newspaper.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/2.....9188682600
ArtFart spews:
It’s pretty obvious there’s one important thing, from the standpoint of their readers, that the folks at Fairview Fannie “aren’t”, and that’s out of business. At least not yet.
We let our P-I subscription roll over to the Times last week, because my wife has been ill and largely confined to the house, and she really likes to read the daily paper. Looking ahead, depending on how impressed/unimpressed/offended/bored we become with it, we’ll decide whether to keep getting it or subscribe to something else like the NYT or maybe the Peninsula Daily News or the Tacoma News Tribune, or just try to get our news online.
Mr. Cynical spews:
AF–
Hope your wife is up and at’em soon.
Best wishes.
Daddy Love spews:
11 AF
In both of the same boats.
ArtFart spews:
12 Thank ye kindly, sir.
And I’m glad that either Goldy caught it, or the software now automatically takes care of bizness when someone like me forgets to match his opening HTML tags with closing ones.
Mr. Cynical spews:
ArtFart–
Mrs. C and I were talking over dinner about people with chronic illness and chronic pain.
It’s hard enough to be the person having the pain or illness…but it’s equally hard on the spouse.
There are plenty of support groups depending on the illness…..both for the person afflicted and the spouse.
It’s hard.
Best wishes.