KING 5 has posted the names of the 95 voters whose absentee ballots were left uncounted in King County. The list was obtained through a public records request… not by guestimating.
Now these are people who deserve to be angry at King County Elections. If I were Dean Logan, I’d send them each a personal apology.
That said, looking at the precincts, it is likely that the votes were fairly evenly distributed between the candidates, so they would not have changed the final margin by more than a handful of votes.
Not many wallingford or capitol hill precincts in here. Must have figured a way to lose suburban votes as part of there “count only liberal votes” campaign
No precincts shown. No political affiliation shown. Your point?
Do we have to thank Stefan for the public records request?
I thought Stefan was full of BS with the names he came up with?
“Of course, Stefan has earned a reputation for coming to conclusions that are not always grounded in the facts…”
According to Stefan:
“All 30 of the voters I identified the other day as “matching with reasonable certainty” are on the list.
All but 3 of the other names appeared on my list as “possibles”.”
Comment by Liking it— 6/16/05 @ 9:12 pm
Yes, yes and Y-E-S!
Stefan for Secretary of State!!!
Shark! Shark! Shark! (on this one, anyway!)
list i saw (too tired to register on king 5) had them by town; almost all from kent, bellevue, renton; 1 or 2 from liberal seattle; wierd the most populus place has fewest lost ballots
So as usual, Snarko had his head up his rump in trying to guess who was really on the list. Typical ‘righton’ blog tactics: if you don’t really know, just make stuff up.
Thanks Snork, you’re a real gem of information.
Yep, despite no evidence of fraud and having been humiliated by a hand-picked judge in the most conservative county in the state, lets just go back to inuendo and accusations. Oh fun…
Gee, you would think the whole Schiavo ordeal would have lent you guys some humilty. Pride is the ultimate sin….
I am over the governors race. Hopefully other states and the nation learns from this fiasco and not let this happen again. I just thank god Florida was not as stupid as Washington State.
Unkl Fuckhead–
The Shark nailed this list.
I’m sure this list, once vetted, will be yet another black eye for KingCo Elections. There is more to come.
This Election Contest has many facets.
You LEFTIST PINHEADS won, right?
Unfortunately for you LEFTIST PINHEADS, this will be the Election where the consequences never end.
As more and more of these types of issues come under the microscope….more & more of your middle-of-the-road citizens will conclude the wrong person is in the Governor’s Mansion.
But you LEFTIST PINHEADS won, right??
Why don’t you hold your never-ending victory celebration under the Alaskan Way Viaduct???? The winning margin was provided by HOBO’s FOR GREGOIRE after all. Those precindts where the HOBO’s all voted make for pretty interesting study too. You ought to talk with some of these HOBO’s. Hard to imagine they actually had it in them to:
a) Register
b) Pick up their ballots
c) Vote their ballots
d) Sign their ballots
e) Deliver their ballots
The reconciliation of votes and voters is important because we should all know exactly who cast ballots. Not reconciling means you can never say for sure anyone’s vote was actually counted…even if you have the envelope or pollbook. Think about it.
Oh the fury in your rhetoric Mr. C….
Yes, we won, fair, square, and with finality. Get over it and start thinking about the fact you’ve put a group of idiots in the White House who have turned your “conservative principles” on their ear.
We’re all going to pay for that one for a long time to come. Who sit’s in the Guv’s mansion in Olympia is very small potatoes by comparison.
But,,,,,, as you said to us….. get over it.
Feel better now?
So what percentage of the total voters identified by Stefan were actually on this list?
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Righton is blowing gas from his ass again.
So, what percentage of the allegations of fraud Snorky posted ad nauseum were upheld in Judge Bridge’s opinion?
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Stefan had nothing to do with this list. A public records request was made by King 5 News. Stefan requested this list several weeks ago but KC properly denied his request because no list existed at that time and the public records law didn’t require the county to create the list to satisfy Stefan’s request. Once it existed, King 5 or anybody else could get it, and it looks like King 5 scooped Stefan this time.
“The Shark nailed this list.”
If Cynical is dumb enough to hang his dick out like this, he deserves to get it chopped off! Let’s get hold of Snarky’s list and have some fun with Mr. Cynical Idiot.
Scooping Snorko is no big deal. He’s not in the news biz, he’s in the wild eyed allegations with no foundation biz.
He, like so many other right wing voices, find commercial success because the tell stories that some folks just really want to hear. Nevermind they have no basis in reality.
Go ahead silly wabbit!
This list will cause further erosion of Gregoire’s legitimacy in the minds of a majority of Washington voters…
Oh, not YOU LEFITST PINHEADS here at the PonysTush!
How many of you are there…..4 (I don’t count thatPrick, Priscilla, Now Roger Rabbit and 89 other identies as more than 1 voter….although in KingCo, DonSux could have EASILY gotten away with it).
The Shark nailed this list…all but 1 name.
Have fun BUN!
Unkl @ 11, speaking of small potatoes, is don/cybil/PVS/alan out shopping for a new one to stuff down the front of his speedo? the one he paraded at the pool must be rotten. Yuck!
Char–
OUCH!!
Don is heretofore know as ROTTENLILSPUDBOY!
Cynical @18,
First… the Snark had a list of over 300 for 95 ballots. My point in criticizing him was that even if the list contained all 95 names, there were still over 200 people who would be unnecessarily upset. He could have just waited a couple days until the real list was released.
Second… so what’s the news here? We already knew the precincts (I posted on it back in early April) so we knew the precincts were slightly skewed pro-Rossi. At the time I estimated the uncounted ballots cost Rossi a net of 4 votes.
you two sound like you’re about 12 years old….
can you just picture don the old retired liberal strutting around the condo pool in his speedo? of course he has to stop off at the kitchen and swipe a potato to shove down the front of that speedo. LOL, what a package!
Goldy–
I think we will ultimately find out how most of the ILLEGAL votes actually voted as well as these ballots.
You are well aware that the public relations implications of things like this is immense. Spin away oh golden one…..
I don’t think it will change one single person who visits your blogs opinion on the legitimacy of this Governor.
You don’t delude yourself into thinking you will actually change someone’s opinion, do you Goldy.
By the way, I do appreciate your efforts with this Blog. It’s good to have plenty of State and Local issues to debate….besides this election aftermath. The election aftermath will be quite interesting though, don’t you think?
I mean the aftermath will last for another 3+ years!!
Rottenlilspudboy probably has more hair on his back than a mature male gorilla.
He also has a serious case of the dreaded “dickey-do” disease.
That’s where his belly sticks out further than his “dickey-do”!
David, you’re an idiot.
1) These names were released in response to my records request, which I originally made on April 7 and reiterated in the last week.
2) The only reason I “guestimated” [sic], is because King County denied my records request, and without citing any exemption to the Public Disclosure Act.
3) My “guestimated” list was as correct as it could have been, given the available information. All 30 of that names that I reported as matching with reasonable certainty showed up on the final list. With the exception of 3 names for which no precinct or batch number had ever been reported by King County, all of the other names were on my list as “possible”
4) The only reason KING5 scooped me is because I didn’t get the notice that the records would be available today until it was too late in the afternoon for me to get to the Elections office by closing time.
Did I mention that you’re an idiot?
C:
I guess the aftermath is for however long you want to define it. But I really don’t think this matter will affect very many votes in 2008 though. But go right ahead, dream on and convince yourself there is some sort of backlash to all this.
Here…Here Mr C.. Just as the left’s mantra was George was illegitimate in 2000. The right will call Christine the same until 2008 and rightly so.
Unkl, seriously try to imagine an old retired self centered liberal guy that still thinks he’s 25 looking, as if. He has one hand shifting the potato in place and the other holding down the rug on his head. LOL limp and balding no one will notice.
Now that is funny. As if maybe some young babe is going to WANT him. Denial unkL. He’s OLD!! the little blue pill doesn’t even help don/alan/PVS.
Stefan–
Goldstein is oh so envious of your information processing and analytical skills that when he says his prayers at night it always ends with “God, please make me as smart & articulate as Stefan….Oh and God, please give me a human voice and take away this awful, screechy sound that comes out of my mouth.”
Perhaps he will add this…”God, please help me to not be such a fucking idiot”.
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You may be right.. we all know what happened in Florida in 2004. Listining to all the BS the donks were spewing you would have thought Frorida would have went blue by a landslide. It went to Bush by 300,000…. no recount dare.
Stefan:
I guess it takes one to know one, or at least to call one names. Your list was interesting, but hardly compelling. It struck me more as a fantasy of your agenda than news.
You found some folks on it you felt would be poster children Rossi voters and talked about them. But a broader view shows the list was fairly even in distribution and not just 95 more votes for Rossi that didn’t get counted.
But keep blogging, you have a loyal following who believe you no matter what the facts are.
One more point — I gave King County another opportunity to disclose all of the absentee envelopes before I went public with my partial list. In their response they again declined to release the information and they gave no indication that their position was going to change. It was only after I released my partial list that they agreed to disclose the definitive information.
If I forgot to mention it above, David, you’re an idiot.
char–
You forgot about Don wearing that pathetic lavender silk shirt opened down to the navel with a gold chain and a medallion that says “Don ROCKS Baby” plus of course the huge sweat rings under each armpit.
I’ll bet the ugly picture we are painting here is mighty close to the truth. Don===The Ugly American!!
Chards –
I have to admit I don’t have a clue what you’re going on about. You might look into some other web sites that are more in line with your fixations.
I wonder if Mr Cyclical thinks that reconciling the votes during last week’s republican caucus was important? HE HE!
Goldy–
Frankly, I think Stefan is being a little easy on you tonite.
I mean calling you an “idiot” is like telling people the Earth is round.
unk @ 35, roger rabbit is DON you tard and alan and cybil and…
Scott–
Giggling is not allowed on this Blog!!!
A real man types HAR-HAR!!!
Are you one of them “Girly-men” that hangs out with Goldstein and the other “light in the loafer LEFTIST PINHEADS” at the Mountlake Ale House???
I thought so.
Stop eating sprouts and crap out of your yard…and start eatin’ stuff that once had a face on it!
It sure sounds like Stefan and the gang are down to the short strokes with they can’t think of anything more intelligent to say than “leftist pinhead” and “you’re an idiot”.
and then we’ve got Chard, who is obviously well into his jars tonight, babbling on about who knows what…..
Perhaps if he could keep it together long enough to complete a sentence?
Unkl Shitferbrains–
You LEFTIST PINHEADS love to hear yourselves talk so much you say in 1,000 words what we can say in 2 or 3.
Mr C @ 39
that’s exactly right. It’s just not attractive. women want real men not pansy asses. sprouts…lol
I should have added, pansy ass men with a big chip on their leftist shoulder.
You really should consider some anger management treatment C. You’re a textbook case.
Chard might want to consider a 12 step program.
awe, look ..isn’t that cute? Mr.Cyn-irr pet chard and now she’s spewing crap everywhere.
Chard- dont ya have a diaper to change…like your own?
Whats with your sudden fixation with potatoes and mens crotches? Is that the best you can muster is to try to intimidate men buy making 3rd grade crotch jokes?
Do you giggle when people fart too?
Just cause one of your psudo-smart righty goons thinks your childish antics are funny, dosen’t mean the rest of us want to wade thru your vomit to have real discussions.
How about ya go get that big red hot water bottle and a garden hose and some vinagar and get the sand out of your cooch?
Maybe, just maybe you’ll have something constructive to disuss then.
Unkl half-Witz–
Don’t you have to actually be angry to take anger management programs? I’m sittin’ here laughin’ my ass off…hardly angry.
The problem with you LEFTIST PINHEADS is you are all oh so serious and oh so self-righteous. You cannot take a serious look at yourselves and find any humor??? You mean you dumb bastards actually believe the BS that rolls out here???
C’mon….really??
This is life-or-death to y’all isn’t it.
WOW!
Get a life if you take this seriously.
D.D.–
My aren’t you grumpy tonite.
Was your latte 2 degrees too cold this AM??
Perhaps your biscotti was a bit too chewy????
Or was that Veggie Burger a year past the expiration date????
Mr. Cyn-ill
thought youd get a kick outta this….
Redneck Engineering Exam
1. Calculate the smallest limb diameter on a persimmon tree that will support a 10-pound possum 8 inches from the trunk.
2. Which of the following cars will rust out the quickest when placed on blocks in your front yard? 66 Ford Fairlane, 69 Chevrolet Chevelle, 64 Pontiac GTO?
3. If your uncle builds a still that operates at a capacity of 20 gallons of shine per hour, how many car radiators are necessary to condense the product?
4. A pulpwood cutter has a chain saw that operates at 2700 rpm. The density of the pine trees in a plot to be harvested is 470 per acre. The plot 2.3 acres in size. The average tree diameter is 14 inches. How many Budweiser Tallboys will it take to cut the trees?
5. If every old refrigerator in the state vented a charge of R-12 simultaneously, what would be the decrease in the ozone layer?
6. A front porch is constructed of 2×8 pine on 24-inch centers with a field rock foundation. The span is 8 feet and the porch length is 16 feet. The porch floor s 1 inch rough sawn pine. When the porch collapses, how many hound dogs will be killed?
7. A man owns a Tennessee house and 3.7 acres of land in a hollow with an average slope of 15%. The man has 5 children. Can each of the children place a mobile home on the man’s land?
8. A 2-ton pulpwood truck is overloaded and proceeding 900 yards down a steep grade on a secondary road at 45 mph. The brakes fail. Given the average traffic loading of secondary roads, what are the chances that it will strike a vehicle that has a muffler?
9. A coal mine operates an NFPA Class 1, Division 2 Hazardous Area. The mine employs 120 miners per shift. A gas warning is issued at the beginning of 3rd shift. How many cartons of unfiltered Camels will be smoked during the shift?
10. At a reduction in gene pool variability rate of 7.5% per generation, how long will it take a town that has been bypassed by the interstate to breed a country-western singer?
i’m not grumpy.
I dont dring lattes
i dont eat bisquets
vegi-burgers are not for carnivores
I just cant stand the smell of puked up wine….
Goldy:
Do Shard and Mr. Sin know that your site makes 1.3 cents every time they post? If not, don’t tell them.
OH my God Char—
We finally have a photo ID of DonSux/Cybil/thatPrick et al
http://www.consumptionjunction.com
He’s the “firefighter”!!
Cynical @24,
I assume your side has considered the possibility that they could overplay the election contest hoo-hah, and suffer a little backlash? If the BIAW wants to waste its time and money interviewing felons, so be it. Just be sure to interview ALL the felon voters.
Stefan @26,
After two-weeks of that pathetic trial, you predicted a Rossi victory… and I’m the idiot?
What a fucking idiot! I clicked on Mr. Cynical Fucking Idiot’s link and all I get was a sick perverted porn site! Is that what you do all day at BIAW instead of working? I should tell Tom McCabe about this.
If you’re gonna post my mug on the internet do it right you stupid jerk!
http://www.rickhoberg.com/more.....-COVER.jpg
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HOO HAW HA! SNICKER SNIFF SNARK! Stefan you’re a riot!
1) No dearie — the records were released in response to King 5’s request. See? “What follows are the names on copies of 95 absentee ballot envelopes obtained by a public records request by KING 5 News.” http://www.king5.com/topstorie.....0812c.html Your request was DENIED. See your own comment (2), to wit: “The only reason I “guestimated” [sic], is because King County denied my records request[.]”
2) ” … without citing any exemption to the Public Disclosure Act.” Ummph, harrumph [throat clearing noises], Stefan, ummm, Bobbi Egan DID tell your lawyer Elections & Records couldn’t provide the list because it didn’t exist. Technically you’re correct in the sense RCW 42.17.310 doesn’t exempt stuff that doesn’t exist (why would it?) … buuuut … in Smith v. Okanogan County, 100 Wn. App. 7 (2000), the state court of appeals said, “Under the [federal] Freedom of Information Act, an agency is not required to create a record which is otherwise nonexistent. … We agree and determine there is also no such duty under the State Act.” Stefan, your attorney is supposed to know this and explain it to you. If he didn’t, you should fire him and get a new attorney or at least refuse to pay him. Dear, dear Stefan, this is Public Records Act 101, you really should know this yourself, why didn’t you??? I mean, I’m just a dumb bunny but even I know this! >snicker< [Raucous animal laughter in background] 3) I'm not sure I want to take your word for it. How about publishing YOUR list Stefan? So we can verify your claims? Hmmm? If you don't wanna do that (to avoid getting sued for intentionally inflicted emotional distress by all the voters you incorrectly fingered) at least e-mail it to Goldy so he can do the comparison and post the results on HA. 4) Stefan -- excuses are like assholes -- everybody's got one. >snicker< [more uproarious animal laughter in background]
3) Now why don’t I want to take your word for it? Hmmm? Stefan tell you what — how about publishing YOUR LIST so we can compare? Or if you don’t want to do that (to avoid being sued for intentionally inflicting emotional distress on the voters you wrongly fingered) at least e-mail it to Goldy so he can check and post the results on HA.
4) Stefan — excuses are like assholes — everybody’s got one!
)snicker( [more uproarious animal laughter in background]
Reply to 35
She’s lamely attempting to insult some guy named Don. He’s probably one of the two dozen guys who dumped her this month.
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At least Mr. Cynical Idiot is a little more colorful and imaginative in his insults than Stefan. I’ve peed on fence posts that are more animated than Stefan.
Reply to 43
Real men want real women, not dishrags like you.
51(7)
What the hell is a “hollow?” Do you mean a “holler?” To wit, “A man owns a Tennessee house and 3.7 acres of land in a holler with an average slope of 15%.”
The SOS has started rulemaking on this year’s election reform legislation. Likely rules include polling place ID requirements, standards for verifying absentee ballot signatures, and rules implementing the new statewide voter database. Other new legislation that may be addressed in rulemaking include paper trail requirements for electronic voting machines, new reconciliation and provisional ballot handling procedures, local option all-mail in voting, enhancements to military voting procedures, and changes in “enhancement and duplication” procedures. Comments may be addressed to the SOS through his web site.
Roger; why not post 1x at a time, or get your own blog
Fuck you, “righton.” This isn’t your blog. If you don’t like it complain to Goldy. ha-ha-ha Or crawl back into your cave at Sound Politics ooops I mean Unsound Mind. You’re nothing but a low-life unpatriotic America-hating troll on this board. I owe you nothing. NOTHING! Go fuck yourself. Fuck the horse you rode in on, too.
Goldy, any desire to limit the f word; i mean you dems wonder why you are painted as moral perverts. Use the F word at the bar or at home, not on a public b.b.
In reality, Stephen and UnsoundPolitics is just a leader of a right wing ‘circle jerk’. They decide on what they want for a final answer, and then manufacture the ‘proof’ so that their predetermined desire is the final outcome. LOL, they must be getting a great education from Rove, the Chimp and the other ‘idiots’ in DC. Funny thing is, the only people that believe stephen are the ‘blind mice’ that he has dancing in his shadows in his catbox. Someday, maybe, he will realize that he is the ‘town jester’ and will realize that 80% of all readers are just laughing their butts off at his stupidity and his trained trolls photocopied diatribe.
you2; ok, what value have your guys contributed to understanding the fouled up election? you even analyze their chicken scratch records? How come Shark figures out results better than their $120k guys? Goldy just prints op-ed pieces, you guys just curse and swear and make up stuff.
Why are all the lost votes in the suburbs?
righton @ 66
“Goldy, any desire to limit the f word; i mean you dems wonder why you are painted as moral perverts. Use the F word at the bar or at home, not on a public b.b.”
Go fuck yourself. This is not a public b.b. This is Goldy’s private b.b. that he opens up to others. We are guests, and we must follow Goldy’s rules; but, Goldy’s rules do not restrict language in the comment threads.
If you don’t like it, then scram. . . punk.
Yeah “likely”, but not proven. What if it did change the election results? I guess we’ll never know. Thanks once again to good ole’ King County’s incompetence; they seem to think that they are the center of the damn universe. Thanks.
Mark1 @ 70
“Yeah “likely”, but not proven. What if it did change the election results?”
Sheeeet. . . are you stooopid! Umm. . . how can 91 ballots change the election? (Hint: Gregoire won by 133 votes).
Too bad earring man wouldn’t consider the impact of the other 1200 or so illegals.
Fries us that Dems got to insert votes 9 times, GOP never got to insert, nor take away. Every call went the dems way. Wonder why?
The comments in #26 and #33 are pretty sad. “I’m not irrelevant! I’m not! I’m not! I’m not! Pay attention to meeeeeee!!”
tj; you guys on drugs? really. Shark’s the only guy with any clue; rest of you guys in a stupor. Hard to admit you all got caught, only good news is the law is in your favor.
Hard to admit you all got caught
Caught doing what?
Deliberately not accounting for ballots and voters. You got lucky cuz judge refused to rule on ballots unless he could see the way the illegals went (absurd). But yeah, your election dept (run by political hacks) got caught intentionally napping, letting every “vote” count
Deliberately not accounting for ballots and voters. You got lucky cuz judge refused to rule on ballots unless he could see the way the illegals went (absurd). But yeah, your election dept (run by political hacks) got caught intentionally napping, letting every “vote” count
Interesting. “Deliberately.” “Intentionally.”
Do you have any evidence of this?
another; of course, read the trial transcript, the way KC made any provisional count, without of course checking to see if all provisionals were legit, not double counts.
Your purpose could be cleaner than i make it out to be, that is, don’t build too many rules that disenfranchises any poor or person confused on where to vote. I say that “motor voter, let anyone vote” system is of course helpful to Dems, who have more low income, more bums, more illiterates voting, and then if i want to think of nefarious activities, it allows for moveon to vote like crazy
@66
Just what we need on this board — a whiney Republican troll.
@72
“Every call went the dems way. Wonder why?”
Hmmmm [scratching chin] … maybe because you were wrong? and spewing bullshit for the last 6 months? [thumping noises] Silly me, I’m just a dumb bunny. [raucous animal laughter in background]
If anyone reads any posts from that dispicable, lying, piece of shit Pudster “Wounded Knee” tell him I’ve responded to his post on the Shiavo Autopsy thread @ 269.
Thanks,
GBS
@76
“Deliberately not accounting for ballots and voters.”
You need a new tinfoil hat, boy. The one you got on is gettin’ a mite crinkled from overuse.
I wonder if he can pick up satellite channels on that thing?
Hey righty any good movies on?
@78
“Dems … have more low income, more bums, more illiterates voting”
They seem to have migrated to the GOP temporarily but we believe they’ll come back to us when they figure out who’s been stealing their bread and water.
Re #78:
Thank you, righton. You made my point very well.
amazing all the bums you registered..free md 20-20?
righton–
It will be interesting as folks who voted in the 2004 election are contacted….especially HOBO’s FOR GREGOIRE!!
No doubt they made the difference.
Why doesn’t Gregoire reward them with a “Tent City” on the Governor’s Mansion lawn????
She is paying off every other special interest group that claims more than 129 members and supported her. The problem with the HOBO’s is they are fragmented. They need to unionize and demand their pound of tax dollars!!
HOBO’s UNITED!
@88
Why should she put a Tent City on HER lawn? She WON the election. We’re going to put on on YOUR lawn. That’s the whole point of winning elections — LOSER! I don’t think permits will be a problem. BIAW is already letting you live in a camper in their parking lot. Tent City is just a natural extension of what’s already their.
Rog–
So that’s how you feel about the constituents who elected Gregoire (even though most of them don’t remember registering or voting!!)?? Watch for HOBO’s AGAINST GREGOIRE in 2008!!
cynical et all; good thing about the bums is they solve 2 things at once; a) it’s a core pet cause to them (homeless mantra) and b) they are mostly drunks and psychotics, so you can get a fudged vote pretty cheaply. Wanna bet some of the absentees were jammed in by the moveon people helping the bums vote?
I thought I lived in a comic book, but I’ve got nothing on you guys! Cynical and righton — the dynamic duo — are you guys Batman and Robin after the sun goes down?
wow, only 1 post in a row by the silly wabbit; whassa matter?
RR @ 62
come-on…it’s a joke for crying out loud…don’t prove Cyn-Irr correct that lefties dont have a sense of humor!
And a Hollow is slang for a small valley. Just look it up at http://dictionary.reference.com/