How much does a tax cut stimulate people who lost their job?
It’s already been a lousy year for workers less than a month into 2009 and there’s no relief in sight. Tens of thousands of fresh layoffs were announced Monday and more companies are expected to cut payrolls in the months ahead.
Lots of lucky duckies at places like Sprint, GM, Caterpillar and Pfizer.
Seriously, I want these Republican Congress-critters who represent some of these districts to go home and tell their constituents they simply must increase the percentage of tax cuts in the stimulus bill, even as job losses mount. They might run into some actual “real” Americans going “WTF are you talking about, I just lost my job and my house!”
Everyone knew the GOP wouldn’t be satisfied with 40% of the package, even though they are in the minority. Enough of this bipartisan artifice, it’s not anything people outside Washington, D.C. care about very much, if at all.
We need to do what we need to do, and if Republicans don’t like it, they can bring it up at the next election.
Well Jon do you support this?
I hear Obama wants to add CA emissions laws across America. I read that CA has the dirtiest air in America. Well it is a Donkey hangout!
Won’t that add an additional $3000+ per car?
Michigan Donkey John Dingell said the American auto industry would add $3,000 extra per car.
When we are in an economic downturn?
The EU tried this and they backed away quickly as it would kill their car market.
Jon–
Are you really that big of a Pinhead???
What do you propose, more welfare instead???
The economy is complex for sure….but the idea that Government handouts and tax increases will somehow stimulate private sector long-term job growth without a horrific impact on our National Debt is wrong-headed.
We need to stimulate spending by folks with money…not try & steal money from them.
Don’t you get it Jon??
Take a look at Iceland Jon.
They were very Socialistic and now look….everything has fallen apparent.
They went from a model of success by the Progressives…to ker-pow.
Pinheads are bent on Socialism…one step at a time. That’s what Progressivism is.
@ 2,
So, we’re supposed to come up with enough in tax cuts for the wealthy so as to to compensate for the lost spending from people who are now unemployed?
I’m not sure which is more idiotic, your argument or the fact that you make this argument and manage to slip in a remark about fiscal responsibility in the same comment.
@ 3
Let’s see, Iceland, a relatively small country, managed to get caught up in the economic collapse that your and your ilk caused, yet we’re supposed to lay the blame for this on Iceland’s economic policies?
I recall pointing out to you clowns some time ago that “cogent” is not something you drink after dinner while smoking a cigar. Apparently you missed that memo.
Jon, I like what Rush said.
Donkey get 54% of the stimulus to work with and conservatives get the 46% balance. Donkey and Conservative congresscritters choose how to use it. Look at the results. Since you have a 8% head start you’re side would have an advantage.
Jon,
Apparently conservatives have yet to figure this out, but, if the law of gravity were anything like Say’s Law, about 30% of the time, things would fly up when you let go of them rather than always falling down.
Mr. Cynical. I guess you don’t know much about Iceland. They took Friedman’s advice, and privatized, cut taxes on the wealthy, and cut taxes on big business. They just went bankrupt. Socalist? Not hardly. More like Conservative. Their problem was they couldn’t borrow any more…. I’m sure that was all Clinton’s fault too.
Hey Don Joe: Talk to me when Donkey Lover George Soros pays taxes.
Oh what a minute Tim Geithner didn’t think he had to pay his taxes. But Joe Biden said to be a patriot you need to pay taxes. So why did American traitor Tim Geithner get nominated?
@1: Puddy hears…hahahaha …you mean you listen to the lies on wingnut talk radio?
Here are the actual facts: Obama wants to let states set their own rules on emissions – something called states rights, that republicans have been bleating about for years.
Are you against states rights Puddy?
As far as europe, europe has a huge gas tax to promote more fuel efficient cars – is that what you want here instead?
No, idiot. Europe is already buying more gas efficient cars – why do think Detroit is going broke faster than the other car makers? Because they make almost NO gas efficient vehicles.
Anyone with a brain knows that it is only a matter of time before the monopoly on oil raises the prices again by cutting production. There is No free market with oil.
Back to the topic at hand – tax cuts for the rich are a lousy and stupid way to try and stimulate the economy – they simply don’t work.
Cynical, you really need to do more reading about the collapse in Iceland. It started when they deregulated the banks. Then the banks started trying to make lots of money by bringing in deposits by paying high interest rates (brokered deposits). Money started flowing in from all over the U.S. and Europe. Then they used that money to invest in mortgage-backed securities in the U.S. As long as they could borrow money at 4-1/2% and loan it out at 6-1/2%, everything’s great, right?
Of course, that much money flowing into a tiny nation like Iceland had a disruptive effect on it’s economy. Inflation soared. A lot of people were making a lot of money, but it couldn’t be sustained for long. The banks were regularly shuffling through, on a weekly basis, more money than the GDP of the entire country (exclusive of banking). Of course, the banking executives and bank owners got the lion’s share of the money.
So when the market for U.S. mortgage-backed securities collapsed, the banks were left holding worthless paper, but they still owed their depositors hundreds of billions of dollars. There was a real run on the banks as foreign investors sought to get their money out in a hurry, resulting in the collapse of the banking system. It’s sometimes said that the government then nationalized the banks, but that’s not accurate. What it did was take over the banks because they failed, and the government had a bank deposit insurance program similar to the FDIC in the U.S.
The government tried to freeze withdrawals as it sorted out the mess. European nations met to try to figure out a way to stabilize Icelandic banking crisis, but Britain muddied the works when Iceland mentioned that it might not be able to pay all the depositors everything they were owed. At that point Britain started seizing Icelandic assets to force payments of debts to British citizens.
Now the Icelandic goverment owes more money to foreign depositors than it’s small population would ever be able to pay off in several lifetimes of work. Under the threat of seizure of it’s remaining foreiing assets, the government is looking at austere ecomomic measures so it can promise some sort of repayment plan to foreign depositors. This has resulted in massive layoffs, and many Icelandic citizens have been unable to access their bank accounts for weeks, unable to pay rent, buy groceries, etc. It’s no wonder the ruling government coalition collapsed.
In short, it’s pretty much the same thing we did here in the U.S. over the past several years, with similar consequences, but even more so.
Of course, we didn’t hear that much about it, because a lot of it happened in the midst of our last election and our own economic meltdown which kept us focused on our more immediate threat. But if you follow BBC World News, you get a much more balanced view of the world than you get through U.S. news sources.
By the way, want to guess how popular the U.S. is in Iceland right now?????
Correctnotbright: Ummm no there are many stories on line about this.
You disagreeing with John Dingell Donkey of Michigan? Michigan Donkey John Dingell said the American auto industry would add $3,000 extra per car. He’s much smarter that you. He’s in congress forever.
16 states are going to follow CA emissions. Arnold is making his standards much more stringent. The 16 states will be more stringent. Those states consume more than 50% of Detroit output.
Nuff SAID!
The Clinton Economy created 22 million new jobs, an average of 230,000 jobs a month for 8 years. The Bush Economy is costing workers their jobs at a rate of 540,000 new unemployed people every month.
Roger Rabbit Quiz
If you miss this one you should consider getting a lobotomy to make yourself smarter.
Which president was better for workers?
[ ] 1. Clinton
[ ] 2. Bush
@1 Is there a car market left to kill? But you may be right about 1 thing, pudnutz, maybe we don’t need tougher emissions standards. The Bush Economy sorta took care of that.
Should see what has happened up in Canada. Facing a confidence vote, Conservative PM Steven Harper is trying to win over the Liberals on his budget. He has a better chance then he did back in December when he pulled a cry-baby stunt to avoid a confidence vote that would either see a fresh election so soon after the snap one held in October, or the Liberals and NDP forming a coalition government.(Rare in Canada, but it is a reserve power the Governor General does hold). Canada has had over a decade of budget surpluses, thanks mostly to the Chretien Liberal Government. The budget will be the deal maker. Harper has 144 votes, but not a majority of 308 seats in the House of Commons. SOme infrastructure spending will be in Harper’s budget, but it will be Canada’s first deficit in years. The provinces, except Alberta, are willing to run deficits temporarily in their provincial budgets.(Alberta actually requires a balanced budget).
BC has a provincial election coming up, and it will be interesting to see what happens. British Columbia has not had a snap election in years, with Campbell’s majority ensuring the 2001 law that mandates fixed general election dates at the 2nd Tuesday in May, actually works. What prevents the Tories from having a majority in Ottawa? The Bloc, they are a separatist party from Quebec, and control 50 seats. After trying to stir up fears of Quebec Seperatists after the Bloc said that in said Liberal/NDP coalition that was proposed, they would not vote to defeat it for a year, a conservative-leaning provincial party in Quebec got trounced in provincial elections, putting the Quebec Liberals in a majority.
I observed the election coverage of CBC and CanWest Global during the campaigns, both the US Federal Election and Canada’s. Seems the Canadian Media was more interested in ours, than their own. One commentator said, it was probably because of a lack of charismatic party leadership. Turnout at the polls reflected that. While we had record high turnouts, they had an appalling disaster.
The current economic problem is going to have to be solved from the ground up, not from the top down. Government incentives need to be focused on infrastructure improvements that provide lasting benefits generations into the future (because that’s how long we will be paying for them). Investments in roads and bridges and mass-transit brings high-paying jobs that can’t be outsourced.
Heck, I even remember hiking the Appalachian Trail, and seeing the shelters and bridges there built by the CCC in the 1930’s. All of us here benefit from the cheap power and food made possible by the hydropower projects on the Columbia River.
As I said during the last election, cutting taxes won’t help. A business which is losing money doesn’t have to worry about taxes at all. Paying 10% vs. 15% on profits doesn’t make a difference if there isn’t a profit. Same for workers – if they don’t have a job, what good is a tax cut going to do for them. And please, no more of those “loans against future refunds” disguised as a tax break.
@2 “We need to stimulate spending by folks with money”
I’d rather stimulate spending by taxing the folks with all the money and giving it to all the folks with no money.
The Republican plan of taxing folks with no money and giving it to the folks with all the money didn’t work so it’s time to try something different.
I have a simple tax proposal — just flip the tax rates for wages and capital gains/dividends, so that workers pay the capital gains/dividends tax rate, and people with capital gains and dividends pay the wage rate.
Correctnotbright:
So Europe not in emission turmoil?
They were to be 2008. Now it’s 2015. Who knows when it really be.
“The European Parliament’s environment committee voted in October that a limit of 130g/km should be set for 2012 and that this should be reduced to 95 g/km by the end of that decade. Yet France, the current holder of the EU’s presidency, has been seeking to delay the introduction of the 2012 limit until 2015. ”
It passed. 2015.
Too bad you don’t read too much.
Shitferbrains @5 ” … I like what Rush said.”
Is this some sort of fucking dramatic announcement?
@5 (continued) I think you guys should get the same percentage we got when your side was running Congress.
Education time.
Tax cuts stimulate the economy.
“Tax cuts, when used properly, have stimulated the economy. In 1964, Congress enacted an 18% cut in personal taxes to spur growth. The legislation was designed to encourage consumer spending – many believe that it succeeded admirably as consumers delivered a textbook reaction.
According to a December 2004 article in Celtia.info, a magazine distributed in Celtic countries, tax cuts have also shown positive results in other countries as well. Ireland’s recent tax cuts are believed to have improved living standards significantly. For years, the Irish were faced with high unemployment, budget deficits and high taxes. In 1986, Ireland faced a fiscal crisis. After reducing government spending, the government lowered taxes on both individuals and corporations. Over the next 13 years, Ireland’s per capita income went from only 63% of the United Kingdom’s average to besting it in 2000. Ireland now enjoys one of the highest standards of living in Europe.
According to a May 2007 article in the Herald Tribune, tax cuts in Poland, Slovakia and Hungary before their entry in the EU have spurred economic growth in those countries.”
http://www.investopedia.com/ar.....x_cuts.asp
Education time from a sockpuppet?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Go fuck yourself, loser.
@21 Not always. Tax cuts that increase deficits create inflation, and inflation kills economic growth and costs jobs.
I’d rather have 2001 prices than Bush’s piddling $300 tax rebate. Average Americans lost far more to the inflation caused by Bush’s deficit-financed tax cuts than they gained from the tax cuts themselves. That was a case of taking from the working class and giving to the rich.
Troll @ 21 said: “Tax cuts stimulate the economy.”
That’s like saying the aspirin cures illness. It helps some of the time, but it depends upon the nature of the illness, the extent of the illness, etc. It’s hardly the cure-all that conservatives like to think it is.
Too high taxes do indeed depress an economy. But that doesn’t mean all taxes are bad. It just means you have to find the right mix between the need to provide government services and the tax rates (and structure).
Remember that Hoover tried lowering taxes in response to the Great Depression. It was the classical response to an economic downturn. But the economy was far beyond anyting which a simple tax reduction could fix. I fear we are on the brink of the same thing now.
By the way, this rescession is hitting rather close to home. Although everyone in my immediate family is still employed, several of my friends have found themselves unemployed within the past eight weeks. My bank is still stable (actually, it’s a credit union), but others around me have failed, and the brokerage firm where my wife once worked has been swallowed up. Several restaurants we frequent on a regular basis are closing their doors this week. It doesn’t look like anybody’s “riding this one out”.
Roll back the Reagan tax cuts, till the economy is back on track. Let’s have the rich sacrifice for the good of the country.
Remember that Reagan campaigned for President in 1980, in large part, on how irresponsible it was for government to be running such huge deficits. Of course, deficits ballooned after the Reagan tax cuts. Reagan’s Budget Director, David Stockma, was ordered by the Reagan administration to make up numbers out of thin air assuming a “rosey scenario” of economic progress under the Reagan tax cuts in order to protect those same tax cuts. In his book about those years, David Stockman admitted that if the Carter budgets had been kept in place, the budget would have been balanced by 1988.
In other words, we lost 12 years towards getting out of the economic hole by virtue of the Reagan Tax Cuts.
Hey cynical, you read what rhp6033 said about Iceland being brought down by Conservative economic policies. Do you disagree with his facts and if so, what’s your truth?
Hey Cynical, you got quite all of the sudden. What happened, did someone fuck you up big time when you shot your stupid mouth off about something you’re clearly an ignorant dipshit about? Maybe Troll can lend you some educating, he gets fucked up here all the time too.
Bozo the clown@22:
You wrote the booklet for that. I’m not double jointed.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Each day you prove your cranial content on HA with your continual diarrheal postings.
Hey Don Joe:
Hey! Shit fer brains.
Talk to me when Donkey Lover George Soros pays taxes.
Remind me, who advocated tax breaks for folks who can spend their money?
It’s so nice to see that you’ve still kept your cranium firmly ensconced in your anus.
26. Blue John spews:
No wonder you are poor….and will never be able to afford that $200,000 house.
Why must everything economic be a zero sum game for you Atheist Progressives??
You must take and re-distribute.
Ain’t gonna happen.
Why??
Cuz rich folks have great tax attorney’s and CPA’s. You can never write tight enough tax laws for them. Don’t you get it? You will strangle yourself trying KLOWN.
Did you see the Gates Foundation is DOWN $7 BILLION? He has the very best advisors.
Where are all these “rich people” you want to squeeze Blue John??? Most have lost plenty in real estate and equity markets. Many will have loss CARRYBACKS and get huge refunds.
You are playing a fools game Blue John.
10 years from now, you will be crying the same tune….an
Moronic Loser@32:
George Soros sez the rich should pay higher tax rates, but holds the bulk of his fortune in tax-free overseas accounts. He wants the rich to pay but not him.
You are too stupid to know this fact.
George in 2006 was convicted by a French court of having insider knowledge about a takeover attempt of a major French bank. He had to pay a multimillion-dollar fine.
You are too stupid to know this fact.
George wants government to control everything. Then George wants to control government through his political contributions which he readily admitted was $27,000,000 against Bush in 2004.
You are too stupid to know this fact.
George moved his headquarters to the tax free Caribbean country of Curacao, which is outside of the supervision of the United States Government.
You are too stupid to know this fact.
Joseph Califano Jr. of Columbia University’s National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse called Soros “Daddy Warbucks of drug legalization”.
You are too stupid to know this fact.
George was buds with Sir Karl Popper, author of The Open Society and Its Enemies book admits he believes in “democratic socialism”.
You are too stupid to know this fact.
George in 1992, bet $10 billion he could devalue the British Pound. He won and pick-pocketed the poor British people of at least $1.1 billion profit in a single day.
You are too stupid to know this fact.
George funded Eric Alterman, CAP and Daily Kurse.
You are too stupid to know this fact.
Need more?
:) That’s my story and I’m sticking to it (:
Hey Jon:
Just wondering…
He needs to be put to pasture F O R E V E R!
One last thing about George Soros…
He can N E V E R become preznit. YES!
Jon, Just wondering…
Tim Geithner branded China a currency manipulator in his presentation. The Bush Treasury Department never said that.
I guess Tim is trying to make friends of the Chicoms?
Jon, Just wondering…
“An angrier message came from the Rev. Clenard Childress, pastor of New Cavalry Baptist Church in Montclair, N.J., and northeast director of Life Education and Resource Network, which he described as the largest African American organization of its kind.
“I now have a face to put on black genocide,” Childress declared from the stage at Justin Herman Plaza, which was nearly filled with anti-abortion demonstrators. “He’s released hard-earned tax dollars to kill babies.””
BlackDonkoinfanticide – Who did dat? Barack Obama.
Fair use.
Idiot @ 34
Need more?
Well, you might want to answer the question I actually asked, but I think it flew right past your tiny little brain, and splattered itself against the wall behind you.
Tax cuts leave more money in taxpayers pockets. those with businesses have more money to buy capital equipment, hire more people. Those without have more money to save, spend, etc. All of that activity helps the economy
Jon, Just Wondering…
Carl Bernstein Skuuls Rachel MadCow on the Keith I Sucked At ESPN Olbermann’s “extraordinary” interviews with a former National Security Agency analyst turned whistleblower.
MadCow: … The only thing we need to find out is, whether or not we’re willing to believe they’d do it and whether or not we’re willing to follow the trail to find out in fact they did it.
Bernstein: Well, the latter part is the important thing. Let’s find out what is going on. I think that you, that we really need to, I read the transcripts of Keith’s broadcast with Mr. Tice (former NSA analyst) about four times. It’s very difficult in places to see exactly what he is saying about reporters, about what is coming from the FBI, about what is coming from the NSA. If you look at it very closely he says, it’s compartmentalized, he doesn’t know how this was used, he saw something that was collected. We ought to find out what that was. But I wouldn’t make the leap to an enemies list, for instance, and say that Karl Rove was runnin’ around with all this information …
MadCow: Using it to take people down!
Bernstein: Exactly. Or …
MadCow: Right. But the idea that they would choose journalists as a group, as targets, is …
Bernstein: They, they, wait a minute You’re right. If they chose journalists as a group, as targets, it would be an outrage.
Too Damn Funny!
Fool@39: I asked you the first question which as always you parade with another.
I said: “Talk to me when Donkey Lover George Soros pays taxes.”
I realize reading is difficult for you. Then, I explained to all why he don’t pay taxes (Curacao) so you can talk to the hand.
So how can I answer a question that was NEVER ASKED?
F O O L!
Idiot @ 42
Congratulations. You’re about to get your ass kicked. Again.
So how can I answer a question that was NEVER ASKED?
The punctuation at the end of my second sentence in comment 32 is, in fact, a question mark, which usually means that someone is asking a question.
‘Course, you won’t answer that question. You’ll spend countless hours panning George Soros for his tax avoidance strategies and not once point out exactly whose philosophy and legislation made it possible for Soros to legally avoid paying taxes.
Congrats to Obamas economic plans. Lost more jobs in one day than any other President. What happened to hope? Geithner crook. Blago crook.
Barney Fwank crook. Hillary crook. Pelosi HUGE
crook. What a fucking bunch of LOSERS.
If you give tax cuts to corporations as a stimulus to the economy, they will only use it to offset there losses. We gave $700 billion in stimulus of free money and in return we go hundreds of thousands of job losses. Why would anyone be so stupid to believe that tax cuts will create jobs? Give one specific example. Do you think a construction company will hire more people if there is still nothing to build just because they were given a tax cut. Give a pharmaceutical company a tax cut, and what are they going to do? hire 2 more research scientists. What a bunch of megalomania bullshit.
mark sounds like you are a little bitter, you piece of shit.
Hey did you hear the news? PRESIDENT OBAMA got his guy in Treasury today and there wasn’t ANYTHING the asslicking fools on the right could do about it. Did you hear the news? PRESIDENT OBAMA also toughened emission standards today and there wasn’t ANYTHING the asslicking fools on the right could do about it.
And it’s only MONDAY! What terror awaits the cowardly traitors on the right Tuesday?
Puddy says:
Thanks puddy- for the lovely quote.
The car industry has been bleating for years about how regulations to increase gas efficiency would ruin them. Now that they successfully fought off the regulations, they are ruined anyways by the market and the fact they make very few fuel efficient cars.
Now that MY money is backing them, I agree with Obama that we need to force them to change for their own good. They are like stuborn little children who won’t eat their vegetables because they don’t “wike” them. Grow up and make fuel efficient cars, Detroit. Last I looked, there were NO Detroit cars that got an average gas mileage over 30 mpg.
The only cars that do are made by Honda and Toyota. The Chevy volt is not even out yet.
You hear the good news? Further proving right wing assholes are irrelevant, Kristol is out on his ass!
http://driftglass.blogspot.com.....s-ass.html
One down – another 50 to go. Must suck to be a republican these days!
LOL! We’re laughing at you punks!
Moronic Femtometer Brained Savant@43:
For the last time:”Talk to me when Donkey Lover George Soros pays taxes.”
Does George Soros pay US taxes? No. His funds reside in Curacao. So until he does, your “questions” are a non-sequitor moron!
Worthless, like your arguments above.
So how can I answer a question that was NEVER ASKED? – I realize rhetorical questions are difficult for your comprehension.
You can ask away all you want but until my original question becomes true your questions to me will not be answered, no matter how much baby-like crying, sulking or posturing you make here.
:) That’s my perfect story and I’m sticking to it (:
Yes correctnotright, I should have proofed it but I had to run.
Anyway, Dingell is a big Donkey auto industry jockstrap. I just posted his words on costs. You can live with them or not.
Ummm.. Yes it is. The Auto Bailout. I agree wholeheartedly.
Moronic Femtometer Brained Savant@43:
Ass kicked? Only in that vacuum pressured cranial orifice you call a hat rack!
Boy, the trolls sure go bizerk when you post something they can’t help but feel threatened by.
Yeah…your boy’s tax cuts and military pork and letting the crooked bankers do whatever the hell they wanted to sure “stimulated” the economy all right. So much that it just spooged all over itself and then had a heart attack.
Good job, bozos.
I know, let’s all take in each other’s laundry. That will give us all jobs.
Or we could all be government workers, there’s a good pension I hear.
ArtFart: Threatened? If Don Joe could read and process sentences… I’ll gladly answer his question(s) when someone shows me where George Soros pays taxes. He throws his money all over in Alterman, CAP, MoveOn, and Daily Kooks web sites. By his own admission he spent $27 Million against GWB in 2004. Then later he says both parties are bad. Really George?
Delbert: Doing this all over again, I would have worked for the guvmint like Pelletizer after college graduation and had them pay for my masters instead of my pocket.
Shitferbrains @ 50
First of all, it’s spelled “non-sequitur”. If you’re going to call someone a moron, then at least learn how to spell.
Second, I do have to thank you for proving my point. You’ll prattle endlessly about George Soros in this pathetic belief that you have some point you can score on this. You can’t engage in a policy discussion, because you’re simply too f’ing stupid to do so.
You’ve mastered the ostrich posture. Your momma would be proud.
But, hey, keep calling me a moron. It makes you feel great, and amuses the heck out of everyone else.
Calling Puffybutt “Shitferbrains” is an upgrade. Based on the constant misinformation, lies, bullshit and just plain stupid shit he posts here, I just assumed he had NO brains!
By the way, just to rub it in:
Yet from today’s Financial Times of London (a conservative paper similar to the U.S. Wall Street Journal):
Source: Iceland takes a turn to the left
See what happens when you automatically try to attribute anything bad that happens to the left, but anything good that happens to the right? Even historical revisionists have to put a bit more effort into it.
[Chortle] rhp6033, you rock!
Right wing caves as usual
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28878324/
Holder certain for confirmation.
Punks, cowards and hypocrites – the GOP!
Discarded Tampon@56:
I love it when you, noodlebrains, gets your lace panties all bound up around your limp dick.
I’ll engage in a policy discussion about Soros when you first put forth proof he pays rich man taxes. He claims the rich should pay taxes. Where’s the proof (beef)? Show it then we’ll talk.
You want to talk without answering the initial gambit – Does Soros pay taxes?
Sorry but Puddy don’t play that. That’s moron debate tactics 101. Change the argument so you look smart. It don’t work that way. Answer the simple question. You already know the answer so you enter the incorrectnottobright zone AKA the Twilight Zone. Since you can’t provide proof of him paying US taxes as a rich billionaire, no further discussion on Soros’ activities for your benefit.
You are always running around screaming answer my question, my question, my question. When the foo shits on the other foot Discarded Tampon@56 cries like a baby with a soiled diaper. Maybe you’re wearing it on your head today.
If you can’t understand the opening bid then STFU. Looks like your brains just exploded on the wall from the self-inflicted gun shot.
Moron@57:
How is that black Chicago based dildo doing up your butt? I see you are still bent over!
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR