Well, at least Mike?™ McGavick is finally making an effort to talk about an issue:
Republican U.S. Senate hopeful Mike McGavick has proposed mandatory substance-abuse screening for welfare recipients with children.
In a speech to the Pasco-Kennewick Rotary on Wednesday, the former Senate aide and Safeco Insurance CEO proposed a “three-strike” requirement that could lead to mandatory drug-abuse testing and treatment, reduction of direct cash benefits and, in some cases, removal of children from the home.
Yeah… because… most people who have gone through the foster care system would tell you that they’d much rather do that than be with their parents and siblings.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for providing more treatment to parents with substance abuse problems, and I certainly recognize that there are times when removing the children from the home is in their best interest. But this “three strikes” crap is exactly the kind of pandering, simplistic campaign rhetoric that gets turned into pandering, simplistic law.
Washington state’s own assistance programs already include substance abuse screening, and uncooperative clients can be removed from the rolls. And of course Child Protective Services can already remove children from the home if the caseworker believes substance abuse is endangering their welfare.
Leaving aside the obvious irony of Mike?™ calling for a crackdown on substance abuse, I guess my biggest question for the candidate would be whether he has a dollar figure attached to his proposal, and how he expects to pay for it?
UPDATE:
The Seattle P-I editorial board chimes in:
He talks about help for states that would implement his ideas. That’s fine, except that states are overwhelmed with foster care challenges without mandating that more children be taken from their homes. Then there’s the shortfall in mental health care and treatment for all forms of abuse (including alcohol, which he overlooks). We’d like to see McGavick confront those politicians who slight these needs.
(The emphasis is mine.)
*** IRONY ALERT! IRONY ALERT! ***
Well, Mike?(tm) said the idea came to him while he was talking with his bartender.
Another KraKpot Konservative “unfunded mandate”.
http://www.marxists.org/
http://www.sp-usa.org/
http://www.cpusa.org/
I think we should give members od any goverment imployeys congressman seniter clerks drug test and alcohole and say they can server or work if found positive for any of these
think mikey would do a lot better if he would keep his pie hole shut.
But I think this is imposible for most republicans. Which is good for the rest of use we can see what crasy ass fools they are and keep them out of office.
Too bad it dosen’t include alcohlic gov’mt officials (and wanna-b’s)
Me thinks the lady doth protest too loudly!
McGavick doesn’t care if this proposal is implemented or not. All he cares about is that it does one thing: It reinforces the prejudice that welfare recipients are immoral, drug abusing, leeches on society who would disrupt their families to smoke a joint. And since that’s the message, then McGavick’s opponents end up arguing for rationality, which in this case means that those opponents are soft on crime, promote drug abuse, and want to give money hand over fist to drug abusing parents of children.
There is no other reason why this proposal exists. If McGavick is elected, we will never, ever hear anything more about this proposal from him. Because if we did, that means it might get enacted, and if it got enacted, then no other scumsucking Republican could re-use it.
That’s how these dirtbags operate. They only want power, not good governance. This single item, more than any other, convinces me that McGavick is just a Republican big-bidnezz shill, and that, to him, the responsibility to represent the state of Washington is just a stepping-stone on his career path towards the corruption-soaked world of lobbying.
Drug using welfare recipients are a “local issue” that get wingnuts riled up and out of their barcaloungers to the polls.
National issues like selling the ports to the “towel heads” and “guest worker programs” tend to keep wingnuts at home.
Rile up the wingnuts and supress the votes of strapped, two job working Dem voters is how the Republican cling to power.
How about drug testing for corporate welfare recipients? They receive a helluva lot more in federal money than do individual recipients. Maybe Halliburton’s shareholders should all have to pee in a cup before we give them any more taxpayer dollars.
McGavick got it all wrong on this isssue.
Ya ever heard the saying “there are no old meth addicts”? It’s true. Once a person does meth, they’re dead. Just a matter of time. Nobody gets out alive. Nobody… And for most meth addicts, that’s a GOOD THING.
So instead of trying to cut off the money supply that feeds the habits of these parasites, The Producers should pay for all the meth they want. Unlimited quantities. Free delivery. Within a year, they’ll be worm food. And their greedy fucking hands will be out of my wallet. Good riddance…
Leftist – Other than Parasite Paul Allen, name a single recipient of “corporate welfare”.
Be careful of rakes. Remember who yer talkin’ to…
13 Ya own any stock, Mark?
Yup…sounds like the Repubs tried getting the attention of Mark’s fellow rednecks by banging on the drums about gay marriage. That didn’t go over very well (especially once Eyman stuck his two left feet into it) so now they’re dragging out the War On Drugs–or rather the war on some hypothetical lazy-ass, drug-addicted (presumably Black) wellfare chiselers.
Can’t these clowns think up anything new?
Gee its hard for me to decide what to post after reading Enoch Root, and Proud Leftist! They took the words right out of my mouth!
McGavick’s comments are typically social Darwinist with all the heartless condescension traditionally contained therein.
Funny how he neglects to mention white collar cocaine snorters and their children. Its the usual shameless exercise in hypocisy we have seen so many times from Republicans whose propaganda is more remarkable for what it leaves out than for what it contains.
McGavick’s substance abuse stance amounts to much less than meets the eye.
Since 2000 Washington State has gone from being number 28 in the nation for domestic marijuana production, to being in the top ten, the dollar value of our state’s marijuana crop ranks only slighly lower than the annual cherry crop, at around $230,000,000. He doesn’t mention that, and he never will.
So, it seems to me, what we can expect from McGavick if he gets elected is everything we see from George Bush, and McGavick’s mentor Sen. Ted Stevens, the total right wing program. McGavick will never serve the people of this state, he will serve money, and the people who give it to him, everybody else will be on their own to sink or swim as best they can.
Right now Maria Cantwell is 17 points ahead of McGavick in the polls, I’m not normally a religious kind of a guy, but tonight at bedtime, I’m going to get down on my one good knee, and thank God for those seventeen points!
Hey, Mark,
How many employees do you have? How often do you sit down and try to figure out which health insurance program is best for your employees? End of the year bonuses–how many times have you had to figure who deserves what? And, then there are pension plans, who to hire and who to fire. That’s what I do, you “Producer”, you. Bite me, you bastard. You’re out of your league. Your simple distinction between “producers” and others is such nonsense that no political philosopher would permit you to fetch their drink.
Mark the Thieving Redneck @ 12
‘“there are no old meth addicts”? It’s true. Once a person does meth, they’re dead.’
So, let me guess, you simply seeded your ex-wife’s death by getting her started with meth. I guess that is one way to escape slavery…unless, of course, the cops catch on.
Another thing they say is that meth takes away your morals. Might meth be the explanation for why you refuse to make good on your bet with Goldy?
Come on, Mark the Asshole, for the sake of your daughter, fuckin’ CLEAN UP! Seek rehab (and while you are at it, make good on your bet, ya fuckin’ loser).
Be careful of rakes. Remember who yer talkin’ to…
Comment by Mark The Redneck KENNEDY — 9/14/06 @ 5:30 pm
Apparently we are all supposed to be intimidated by this statement. I am not sure what it means though. I am always careful not to step on an up turned rake. MTR should remember who he is talking to and that, in the end, no one cares.
proud leftist@11
Here is your sign, Haliburton ALREADY does drug testing…DUH!
Left 17 – WTF does that hafta do with what I said. Are you on meth?
DJ – Good decision not to debate me on substance. Character assassination is the only option you have left.
Dumass…
The president’s measure would go further than the Senate package in allowing classified evidence to be withheld from defendants in terror trials, using coerced testimony and protecting U.S. interrogators against prosecution for using methods that violate the Geneva Conventions.
Why can’t everyone see that this is wrong?
Cral Grossman died today from severe chest pains. Mrs. Grossman was visiting “Jerome” at the Embassy Suites at the time of Carl’s death. Hmmmmmmmmm……….So long, Mr. Grossman.
The word is “dumbass”, dumbass.
The number of deaths among would-be immigrants along the US-Mexico border has doubled over the past decade, according to a US Congress report. Most of the increase in fatalities occurred along Mexico’s border with the southwest state of Arizona, according to the Government Accountability Office, Congress’s investigative arm. The GAO estimated that in 1995, 266 people died trying to cross into the United States, while 427 died last year. [……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………… Don’t worry, libs!! They can still vote Democrat early and often!]
WASHINGTON — The House voted for the second time in a year to erect a fence along a third of the U.S.-Mexican border, part of a Republican effort to keep illegal immigration an issue before voters. A new 700 miles of double-layered fencing won approval on a 283-138 vote, a bigger margin than last December when the House passed it [……………………………Add in gun towers and Claymoors, and thgis sounds like a start. Of course, many Dems voted against.]
1. Mr. Lake
I appreciate your honesty, and while I still think your anger at me is misplaced, I appreciate straight talk, and prefer honest anger to false sentiment.
Somehow you seem of the impression that I do not believe that we should pursue these criminals, capture them if possible and kill them if necessary.
Forgiveness also does not imply that we should allow them to go on hurting others, nor that we should somehow forget what they have done. Our safety requires us to remove them as a threat, and my religion does not contradict this.
It does require that I do so without hate, without bitterness and without anger. Revenge, as we normally consider it, is not an option for me.
Your post seems to imply that you are in the Armed Services yourself. I would ask you to print my posts and take them to your command Chaplain. Ask him or her to explain them from a Christian perspective.
Regardless, I wish you well, and as you imply that you are in a combat area, know that my prayers are with you and with your troops.
John Barelli, NCC(AW), USN-FR
http://tinyurl.com/flelx
Commentby John Barelli— 9/13/06@ 10:04 pm
John I gave the same sermon last Sunday morning to my enlisted group but it wasn’t as elegant as you made yours. I was force to present the same sermon using political correctness and could not reference God in any manner. Now you see even in the military you are limited on what you can say, subject matter, and those types of personnel you are addressing. So much for the first amendment after the squirrel heads get through writing the rule books. My Family has been soldiers, preachers, and business men for many centuries so I know where you are coming from, and appreciate that you are sincere in your beliefs. John if you like maybe I can arrange with the Chaplin to have you address the folks during Chaplin Call. We like to have gust join us all the time and present their point of view and moral support. We leave certain subject matters aside for we might offend someone who see this world from a different vantage point. For the most part they are great people and would do anything to help those who are in need even if it puts them in harms way. God Bless
North Korean reclusive leader Kim Jong-Il’s health has further deteriorated and he can no longer walk without difficulty due to worsening diabetes, a South Korean lawmaker said. Kim, 64, has long suffered from diabetes, kidney and liver problems and now has difficulty walking, said Chung Hyung-Keun, a longtime intelligence official now affiliated with the opposition Grand National Party. […………Aren’t there ANY fellow “progreesives” on HA.ORG that will offer Kim Jong-Il a kidney and/or part of a liver? Where is your liberal Democrat spirit? Carl? Daddy Love? David in Seattle? Goldystein? SHOW US THAT YOU CARE!!!!!!!!!!]
“The floor is completely engulfed. We’re on the floor, and we can’t breathe, and it’s very, very, very hot,” Doi says in a frantic voice. “I’m going to die, I know it. Please, God, no. It’s so hot, I’m burning up,” she says, sobbing.
And you fucking pacifists and appeasers want the perps who did this to have “rights”? Fuck them.
Blowtorch and pliers… whatever it takes…
I found a copy of the The.Da.Vinci.Code.2006.DVDRip
You can get it from alt.binaries.svcd news group.
any ways carry on
And you fucking pacifists and appeasers want the perps who did this to have “rights”? Fuck them.
Blowtorch and pliers… whatever it takes… [No, MTRK, we would be “just like them”. Total bullshit. The Muuuuuuslim terrorists will not quit fucking with Americans until we “Trident” them. Statrt with Iran. Take the oil. If any Muuuuuuslim bitches, pick another raghead country and repeat. And piss on you pussy libs!
WASHINGTON – It often gets dicey for readers when journalists, who are rarely math majors, play with numbers and then publish misleading or mistaken conclusions. It happened Labor Day when the Detroit Free Press published a horrifying map showing huge losses in household income across America. Horrifying and totally wrong, that is. According to the map, between 1999 and 2005 median household income had fallen in 46 states… […………………..It was the Detroit Free Press!!! Who cares? Detroit is 100% black and Democrat. And none of them can read!!! A total nonissue!]
Hey Mark, lets just expand the torture rule to include thieves and murders. We can just do away with the legal system, withdraw from all international treaties and become just like, oh, I don’t know, Saddam’s Iraq.
While the quote from a trapped victim is indeed sad and heart wrenching, it is not reason to begin the systematic killing and torture of those we deem guilty without benefit of trial. If we did, we become no better than the enemy.
Sometimes I wonder where you and the other WingNuts left your brains and reason. All I hear from you is selfishness, greed and hate. There is a time to fight. When there is need for torture to save lives immediately, we have military officers who recognize, and accept, the consequences of such action. They do what they consider to be their duty, add to it their moral belief and gut feeling, then when they have done what may very well have been necessary to save lives, they turn themselves in and accept the punishment. All the while standing proudly. This is a definition of a MAN. Something you know nothing about. To change the rules, to allow for open torture is to give license to lesser, sadistic men to torture without repercussion. I am willing to accept that a good man, a strong man, may make a decision, to violate the torture rules. In my mind, it is to his benefit to have those rules there. There will be the outcry of “he must have had reason” and he saved X number of lives that otherwise would have been lost, thereby mitigating his actions.
I don’t want military or CIA personnel deciding someone knows something and then commence to beating the living crap out of him. What if they are wrong, what if there is a case of mistaken identity? How do we punish our personnel for that? Do we just tell the victim “Oops, sorry. You looked like a terrorist”.
Your support of this won’t hold water. There are no parameters possible to enable this kind of behaviour from a civilized people.
We need more case workers. Right now case loads are so hight that all the case workers can do is burn though the paper work and pray for the best. If we had lower case loads case workers could take some time and actualy try and help fix what ever the problem is. Drug testing is just one more thing hanging over a case workers head.
Now we know where our democrat representatives stand when it comes to big pork spending. When given the chance to vote to actually publish to the citizens of this country what earmarks are being handed out, Inslee, Larsen and McDermott all voted against it.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll449.xml
So the next time you talk about big-spending repubs, just be assured that the trade off is even bigger spending dems. Difference is, the dems don’t want you to know who they are funneling the money to. They want the corruption to remain in the process, and STOP ASKING!
Except for being upstaged by the repubs, and pouting about it, I can’t figure out why dems voted against this.
Cantwell’s latest attempt at discussing the issues is hilarious. (I also think it’s funny that she has a bunch of hacks on her website “endorsing” her–all establishment Democrats, through and through)
Then she runs these crappy ads claiming credit for “strengthening port security” among other things.
Cantwell hasn’t been anything remotely like a leader on port security. Contrast Cantwell with Patty Murray, who could at least make that claim legitimately.
Cantwell’s website lists these citations as evidence that she has been a leader on port security:
#1: A Ted Stevens) bill that she signed on as one of over a dozen cosponsors (SB1052)
#2: Another Ted Stevens bill that she signed on as one of *42* cosponsors (S2791)
#3: A Susan Collins bill that she signed on as one of 10 cosponsors (S2459)
#4: A press release she put out in March.
Cantwell trying to sell herself as a leader on port security is alomst as funny as watching her try to talk energy policy. Not only does she NOT understand the issues involved, she’s all about taking credit where NONE IS DUE!!!
Info for those who worship in the Church of Liberalism.
Take special notice of the William Penn quote near the bottom………………it certainly does make one stop & think!!!
Alabama 1901, Preamble. We the people of the State of Alabama, invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following Constitution.
Alaska 1956, Preamble. We, the people of Alaska, grateful to God and to those who founded our nation and pioneered this great land.
Arizona 1911, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Arizona, grateful to Almighty God for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution…
Arkansas 1874, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Arkansas, grateful to Almighty God for the privilege of choosing our own form of government…
California 1879, Preamble. We, the People of the State of California, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom.
Colorado 1876, Preamble. We, the people of Colorado, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of Universe.
Connecticut 1818, Preamble. The People of Connecticut, acknowledging with gratitude the good Providence of God in permitting them to enjoy.
Delaware 1897, Preamble. Through Divine Goodness all men have, by nature, the rights of worshipping and serving their Creator according to the dictates of their consciences.
Florida 1885, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Florida, grateful to Almighty God for our constitutional liberty, establish this Constitution..
Georgia 1777, Preamble. We, the people of Georgia, relying upon protection and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish this Constitution…
Hawaii 1959, Preamble. We, the people of Hawaii, Grateful for Divine Guidance .. Establish this Constitution.
Idaho 1889, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Idaho, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings.
Illinois 1870, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Illinois, grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors.
Indiana 1851, Preamble. We, the People of the State of Indiana, grateful to Almighty God for the free exercise of the right to choose our form of government.
Iowa 1857, Preamble. We, the People of the State of Iowa, grateful to the Supreme Being for the blessings hitherto enjoyed, and feeling our dependence on Him for a continuation of these blessings establish this Constitution.
Kansas 1859, Preamble. We, the people of Kansas, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious privileges establish this Constitution.
Kentucky 1891, Preamble. We, the people of the Commonwealth are grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties…
Louisiana 1921, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Louisiana, grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties we enjoy.
Maine 1820, Preamble. We the People of Maine acknowledging with grateful hearts the goodness of the Sovereign Ruler of the Universe in affording us an opportunity … And imploring His aid and direction.
Maryland 1776, Preamble. We, the people of the state of Maryland, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberty…
Massachusetts 1780, Preamble. We…the people of Massachusetts, acknowledging with grateful hearts, the goodness of the Great Legislator of the Universe … In the course of His Providence, an opportunity and devoutly imploring His direction
Michigan 1908, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Michigan, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of freedom establish this Constitution.
Minnesota, 1857, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings:
Mississippi 1890, Preamble. We, the people of Mississippi in convention assembled, grateful to Almighty God, and invoking His blessing on our work.
Missouri 1845, Preamble. We, the people of Missouri, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, and grateful for His goodness . Establish this Constitution
Montana 1889, Preamble. We, the people of Montana, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty establish this Constitution .
Nebraska 1875, Preamble. We, the people, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom Establish this Constitution.
Nevada 1864, Preamble. We the people of the State of Nevada, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom establish this Constitution
New Hampshire 1792, Part I. Art. I. Sec. V. Every individual has a natural and unalienable right to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience.
New Jersey 1844, Preamble. We, the people of the State of New Jersey, grateful to Almighty God for civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors.
New Mexico 1911, Preamble. We, the People of New Mexico, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty
New York1846, Preamble. We, the people of the State of New York, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure its blessings.
North Carolina 1868, Preamble. We the people of the State of North Carolina, grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for our civil, political, and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those
North Dakota 1889, Preamble. We, the people of North Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, do ordain…
Ohio 1852, Preamble. We the people of the state of Ohio, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings and to promote our common
Oklahoma 1907, Preamble. Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to secure and perpetuate the blessings of liberty … establish this ..
Oregon 1857, Bill of Rights, Article I. Section 2. All men shall be secure in the Natural right, to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their consciences..
Pennsylvania 1776, Preamble. We, the people of Pennsylvania, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, and humbly invoking His guidance
Rhode Island 1842, Preamble.We the People of the State of Rhode Island grateful to Almighty God for the civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing
South Carolina, 1778, Preamble. We, the people of he State of South Carolina grateful to God for our liberties, do ordain and establish this Constitution
South Dakota 1889, Preamble. We, the people of South Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberties
Tennessee 1796, Art. XI.III.That all men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their conscience…
Texas 1845, Preamble. We the People of the Republic of Texas, acknowledging, with gratitude, the grace and beneficence of God.
Utah 1896, Preamble. Grateful to Almighty God for life and liberty, we establish this Constitution.
Vermont 1777, Preamble. Whereas all government ought to .enable the individuals who compose it to enjoy their natural rights, and other blessings which the Author of Existence has bestowed on man .
Virginia 1776, Bill of Rights, XVIReligion, or the Duty which we owe our Creator can be directed only by Reason and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian Forbearance, Love and Charity towards each other
Washington 1889, Preamble. We the People of the State of Washington, grateful to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution
WestVirginia 1872, Preamble. Since through Divine Providence we enjoy the blessings of civil, political and religious liberty, we, the people of West Virginia reaffirm our faith in and constant reliance upon God .
Wisconsin 1848, Preamble. We, the people of Wisconsin, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, domestic tranquility
Wyoming 1890, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Wyoming, grateful to God for our civil, political, and religious liberties . establish this Constitution.
After reviewing acknowledgments of God from all 50 state constitutions, one is faced with the prospect that maybe, the ACLU and the out-of-control federal courts are wrong!
“Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants.” – William Penn
Commentby me@35
OK so the case load may be high, bet I could build a bit of fire under there asses…oh I forgot…state employees, pevailing wage and such. Posibly privatisation of his area would be in the best inerest of us, and most importantly the children.
Carl and Mrs. Grssoman, If President Bush bombs Iran’s nuclear plants [weapons factories], would you consider joining other “progressive” Democrats as “human shields” to really show him? Just “axing”……………………
I don’t want military or CIA personnel deciding someone knows something and then commence to beating the living crap out of him. What if they are wrong, what if there is a case of mistaken identity? How do we punish our personnel for that? Do we just tell the victim “Oops, sorry. You looked like a terrorist”.
Commentby My Left Foot [..Kill them all, and let God sort them out!]
McGavick calls for crackdown on substance abuse. (No… really.)
Ah that is funny.. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
These repubs are real hypocrits.hehehehehehe sniff sniff….
heheheheheh…sniff sniff… haahahahahahaaha
Blather, you’re being far too generous on Drunk! This is all about Republican’s orgasmic desire to further punish the poor for being poor. Welfare Mothers are a big, fat juicy target which gets their base in an uproar. You revolting bastards.
“Take my word for it. Mrs Left Foot is the most detailed, thorough and precise human on the planet.”
Commentby My Left Foot [……Hmmmmmmmmmmm…………I guess that what you say about your wife when she is not a babe!]
“Washington state’s own assistance programs already include substance abuse screening, and uncooperative clients can be removed from the rolls.”
Source:
McGavick calls for crackdown on substance abuse. (No… really.)
by Goldy, 09/14/2006, 3:50 PM
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This is bullshit; I don’t think that you know what you are talking about. How many welfare recipients are actually screened for using drugs and how often are they screened. When has a drug user ever been removed from the welfare rolls for using drugs in Washington? Probably seldom if ever.
WASHINGTON – Rep. Bob Ney, R-Ohio, is expected to plead guilty as early as Friday to at least one criminal charge in an election-year congressional corruption investigation, Republican officials said Thursday night.
Ney, whose ties with disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff have long been under scrutiny by prosecutors, has consistently denied all wrongdoing. He announced this summer he would not seek re-election, a step he took reluctantly and at the prodding of party leaders fearful of the loss of his seat.
Bye Bye, Ney. It was nice knowing you. Next stop, JAIL. Gonna get a little of that Tookie Love.
Cantwell trying to sell herself as a leader on port security is alomst as funny as watching her try to talk energy policy. Not only does she NOT understand the issues involved, she’s all about taking credit where NONE IS DUE!!!
Commentby 98102— 9/14/06@ 7:40 pm
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Cantwell(D-Mexico) is a phoney. She is a cheap labor corporate Dem who voted against building a fence on the Mexican border. Let everybody in who can jump the border,that’s her idea of security.
National issues like selling the ports to the “towel heads” and “guest worker programs” tend to keep wingnuts at home.
Commentby For the Clueless— 9/14/06@ 5:16 pm
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More bullshit, Cantwell(D-Mexico) voted for amnesty for illegal aliens, and voted to give illegal aliens social security benefits.
Two officials said Ney would admit to having filed a false disclosure report with the House of Representatives in connection with a 2002 golfing trip to Scotland that Abramoff paid for.
Any guilty plea would almost certainly renew public attention on a Republican-heavy corruption investigation that has unfolded slowly in the months leading to the midterm elections. Democrats have long vowed to make ethics an issue in the campaign.
It just gets better and better. I can’t wait for the WingNut apologists to start with the deflection, bringing up Kennedy, et al…..Wonder if they will bring up Mike? I kind of think not.
And what pray-tell does McG’s latest “proposal” have to do with the federal government and US Senate jurisdictional authority? Isn’t welfare administered by the State of WA and don’t the states develop criteria for eligibility? So now McG comes along and has a bright idea that would add millions in extra administration to a program with little or no economic benefit to the state — only added burdens of taking care of kids whose parent or parents fail to meet HIS higher standards of care. Shouldn’t DUI’s also be a criteria for parents on welfare???
We believe that no one is above the law – not the president, not the CIA, not the Justice Department, not the Congress, not the courts, not corporations, not unions, not lobbyists.
Commentby Daddy Love— 9/14/06@ 10:53 am
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More lib bullshit. Libs believe that illegal aliens are above the law.
And what pray-tell does McG’s latest “proposal” have to do with the federal government and US Senate jurisdictional authority? Isn’t welfare administered by the State of WA and don’t the states develop criteria for eligibility?
Commentby none specified— 9/14/06@ 9:34 pm
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Typical dumbshit lib who doesn’t know that the Feds make the governing rules and that State rules must be consistent with Fed rules. Don’t you remember Federal welfare reform, dumbshit?
48 – I shit you not fascist. Selling ports and guest worker programs are Bushie ideas.
By the way, Cantwell is going to win. Why don’t you pack up your phony act and take it back to (un)SP.
Since blacks make up 12% of the American population, and vote Democrat 105% in every election, shouldn’t HA.ORG post at least 25% of the threads in Ebonics so that every Democrat can feel included?
Mrs. Left Foot
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Typical WingNut wife. Please compare the two, who would you choose? LOL!
http://tinyurl.com/ff2tg
Goldy and Gang old news same problem who is right and who is wrong? Who is the Real enemy Al-Qaeda or the Socialist Democrats German or American parties? Will the War on Terror be lost because the Socialist Democrats defected over to the Al-Qaeda for false security and their hatred for Bush?
http://medienkritik.typepad.co.....ails_.html
Pacifism Fails Again
Pacifism Fails Again: Suicide Bombings Prove We are All at Risk
By Ray D..
Not participating in the Iraq war didn’t spare Saudi-Arabia or Turkey from Al-Qaeda terrorist attacks. That bogus justification for not participating in the war was buried for good along with the victims of Al-Qaeda terrorism this past weekend. Today, several new bombings in Istanbul further exploded the myth that pacifism could fend off or spare a nation the wrath of fanatical Jihadi suicide bombers. These attacks are further proof that Al-Qaeda terrorism is not Iraq or Israel specific. The Islamo-facists behind the attacks also don’t seem to care about the prospect of killing innocent Muslims. The simple fact is that no person and no nation is safe from this type of terror.
The question is how long will Germans continue to minimize and talk-away the Al-Qaeda threat? The Djerba attack, in which over a dozen Germans were murdered by a suicide bomber, was completely minimized by the media. Will Germans wait until there is a massive attack here or will they finally wake-up to the real danger? The German media has drooled over every American casualty death in Iraq, displaying a truly sick anti-American schadenfreude. When will the media start to report on the people murdered by Al-Qaeda? What about the victims lying in Saddam’s mass graves?
Right now, Germans see George Bush as a threat to world peace on the same level as the Al-Qaeda terrorists. The systematic disinformation of the German people by their own media is making meaningful communication between most Germans and Americans particularly difficult. George Bush has been demonized so severely that he is seen as a sort of Satan re-incarnate. According to a SPIEGEL survey earlier this year, 31% of all Germans under the age of 30 believe the US government was behind the September 11 attacks. The unrelenting one-sidedness and bias of the state-subsidized media has left an entire nation in the dark as to who its true friends and true enemies are. Germany has lost its way in the world, hate mongering anti-American books top the best-seller lists. The damage done will take years to repair and will likely never be healed entirely.
Rassmuthson poll
September 14, 2006
Forty-seven percent (47%) of American adults approve of the way that President Bush is performing his job
The democrat ship be sinking.
Post the link MRR
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OK
http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....proval.htm
Democrats trying to reach Chritians?
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld.....512539.htm
Houston we have a problem. The ship be sinking.
Gas prices on the way down.
http://www.econbrowser.com/arc.....ces_2.html
The ship be sinking for you dems.
AIR AMERICA replacement, Their only chance to win the next election? Maybe.
http://sextape.cf.huffingtonpost.com/
Maybe Goldy and Gang will like this over AIR AMERICA.
http://deanfriedman.cf.huffingtonpost.com/
MRR, it is RASSMUSSEN Moron: here are some selected results for you to ponder, boy.
Incumbent Democratic Sen. Maria Cantwell now leads Republican challenger Mike McGavick 52% to 35% (see crosstabs). She led by six in the previous poll.
The current survey is the first conducted since McGavick’s admission of a drunk driving incident earlier in his life.
These results mark the first time since February that Cantwell has reached the 50% level of voter support. Rasmussen Reports is now shifting this race from “Leans Democrat†to “Democrat†in our Senate Balance of Power ratings.
Forty-seven percent (47%) of American adults approve of the way that President Bush is performing his job. Fifty percent (50%) disapprove. Those are by far the best numbers for the President since mid-February.
However, what our friend MRR did not mention was the following:
Since this is just the third day of a bounce, it remains to be seen whether this reflects lasting change or is nothing more than statistical noise. The Rasmussen Reports daily updates are based upon nightly telephone interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. Most of the interviews for today’s update were completed after President Bush’s address to the nation three nights ago. Friday’s results will be the first based entirely upon interviews conducted after the speech and after the 9/11 anniversary.
Bottom line, the spike appears to be temporary. With Ney pleading guilty, Colin Powell handing W his ass on a platter, and the other various and sundry matters that are dogging the present administration, look for steep declines in the presidents popularity. Also the defeat in the Senate over the torture rules is a clear sign of disappearing support for this administration from within its own ranks.
Message from the Church of Liberalism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://magicalmessiah.cf.huffingtonpost.com/
48 – I shit you not fascist. Selling ports and guest worker programs are Bushie ideas.
By the way, Cantwell is going to win. Why don’t you pack up your phony act and take it back to (un)SP.
Commentby For the Clueless— 9/14/06@ 9:49 pm
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Does a stupid Bush idea demand a stupid Dem idea to even things out? What’s Cantwell’s (D-Mexico) excuse for voting for amnesty for illegal aliens, and voting to give illegal aliens social security benefits? Is she even more stupid than Bush and thinks cheap labor is good for America?
She’s a phoney.
Would Darcy have voted the way her dem leaders would have told her to on the earmark legislation, just like Inslee, McDermott and Larsen, or would she have stood up to them an voted for transparent govt?
Just kidding. We all know she does as she’s told. A vote for Darcy is a vote for higher spending and secrecy, just as Nancy Pelosi would order her to do.
@50- Most “welfare” money is federal funds, and federal requirements have to be met by the state- including eligibility criteria. That is where the jurisdiction comes in.
Now MRR, read the narative carefully, don’t miss the part where they suspect it is just a spike.
Bush be sinking tomorrow. The rest of WingNutdom be sinking in November.
Drowning in a pool of lies, deceit and greed.
We be voting you out of office.
Burner is leading too.
The day is good.
I would like to see Mike? confront just one issue. Any issue.
What were his handlers thinking? This is the kind of campaign that $28million buys. Are they shopping discount campaign managers?
Burner has no chance. The dems know that if the Christians come out in numbers they will lose their chance at the house. You dems better pray for a natural disaster or for gas prices to go up. The ship be sinking.
A terrifying attack in a Canadian college has left one woman and the gunman dead and at least 19 others injured.
http://english.pravda.ru/photo/report/kanada-875
Yep those Canadians really enforce those gun laws, only the insane can have a weapon.
This model is what the Socialist Democrats have in mind for Seattle?
Vote Democrat and this is what your children get to look for in their future.
http://modele-social.blogspot.com/
Janet S AKA Pam Roach would probably vote for Bob Ney – especially now that he’s gonna be a convicted felon. Just the kind of example Janet wants to set for her kids.
Another republican crook bites the dust.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14842775/
Now if we could just get that bitch Roach’s drug addicted son to tell on her we could get Ney some company.
“Washington state’s own assistance programs already include substance abuse screening, and uncooperative clients can be removed from the rolls.”
Source:
McGavick calls for crackdown on substance abuse. (No… really.)
by Goldy, 09/14/2006, 3:50 PM
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This is bullshit; I don’t think that you know what you are talking about. How many welfare recipients are actually screened for using drugs and how often are they screened. When has a drug user ever been removed from the welfare rolls for using drugs in Washington? Probably seldom if ever.
Commentby americafirst— 9/14/06@ 9:09 pm
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KOMO just reported that no Washington State welfare recipient has ever been tested for drugs. Screening without testing is pure bullshit.
Reichert is behind in the latest (though very early) poll. This has to worry Reichert. He can’t shaker her and in a close race that spells disaster.
The WingNut ship be sinkin’. Their theme song is Don’t Rock The Boat.
MRR:
Boy, thanks for making that clear. I guess there is no reason for any Republican to give another cent to Reichert. That would explain why he keeps trailing Burner in fund raising.
Doesn’t explain why he is behind in the polls. We’ll have to work on that one.
But since the race is over, I guess all the Republicans don’t have to vote. Please spread that message around.
But undoubtedly that incredible Republican strategy that has led McGavick to 36% in the polls will also lead Sheriff Hairspray to a victory also.
Thank you for making all of this clear. Your thinking is brilliant. Wait, do you work for the McGavick campaign?
Representative Bob Ney, Republican of Ohio, has agreed to plead guilty to federal criminal charges related to his dealings with the corrupt lobbyist Jack Abramoff, lawyers and others with knowledge of the investigation said Thursday.
A guilty plea would make Mr. Ney, a six-term congressman, the first member of Congress to admit to criminal charges in the Abramoff investigation, which has focused on the actions of several current and former Republican lawmakers who had been close to the former lobbyist.
People with detailed knowledge of the investigation said Mr. Ney had entered an in-patient rehabilitation facility in recent days for treatment of alcoholism, making it uncertain whether he would appear at a court hearing to announce the plea. Lawyers and others would speak only anonymously because of concern they would anger prosecutors.
They said the agreement with the Justice Department — and the exact criminal charges, which are expected to include conspiracy and false statement — would be disclosed in Washington as soon as Friday and would probably require Mr. Ney to serve at least some time in prison.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09.....ref=slogin
McGimmick’s a problem solver? Another Republican in Congress would be yet another problem (Bush) approver.
rujax @ 24
Maye MTR thinks he’s Alexandre Dumas.
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“And you fucking pacifists and appeasers want the perps who did this to have “rights”? Fuck them.”
I am an American. I have my own opinions, but I believe in the wisdom of our Founders who wrote a document under which we operate that GUARANTEES the right of people to be secure in their persons and that forbids cruel and unusual punishment.
Of course, it’s also true that the following are the Supreme Law fo the Land under Article VI of the US Constitution. The US signed and ratified the UN Convention Against Torture, as well as the Geneva Conventions, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the U.N. Body of Principles for the Protection of All Persons under Any Form of Detention or Imprisonment, the U.N. Standard Minimum Rules for the Treatment of Prisoners, the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ, arts. 77-134), the War Crimes Act of 1996 (18 U.S.C. § 2441), and the federal anti-torture statute (18 U.S.C. § 2340A).
Your opinion regarding “rights” is not relevant.
Janet S (aka Pam Roach aka MRR in drag) what will happen to your inbred fantasies whe the Chimp in Chief starts to be held accountable next January? I imagine you will move to Pakistan or Indonesia where their extremist views are more to your idiotic ideologies.
RE: Mike! and his stand on substance abuse and public assistance.
Mandatory testing would probably not survive a constituional challenge.
That said, treatment programs for TANF recipients have been shown to improve outcomes such as length of emlpoyment, nad typically return more dollars in benefits than are expended in programs.
It has been my experience that substance abuse treatment programs are not sufficiently punitive for Republicans to support them.
Mike! seems to be trying to shore up his base here, because this is not an issue on which you can pick up a lot of moderate votes. That looks desperate to me. It also seems to be “noise” to distract from the national issues on which this election turns.
Our legal system has been a cornerstone of Democracy for over 200 Years. “Innocent until proven guilty” will be changed to “Guilty, because I say so” if our appointed president gets his way.
If REAL Christian come out and vote, the lying, corrupt, thieving, warmongering republicans will be voted out
Robert @ 81
To Republicans, a Democrat in Congress is a problem they want to solve.
Hey My Left Foot at 34. Besides adding thieves and murderers to that “ok to torture” list, let’s add bet welshers as well!
Anyone notice the WingNuts have been strangely quiet for several hours? Think they gave up?
How’s that Bsuh Boom treatin’ you? Clearly we need Mike! in the Senate to keep the god times rolling!
“Ford has already lost $1.5 billion this year, and internal forecasts show that it could lose as much as $6 billion alone on its North American operations during 2006, according to people with direct knowledge of the reports.”
“GM, which lost $10.4 billion last year, has reduced its North American losses in 2006 under a program that calls for it to cut 30,000 jobs and close 11 plants through 2008.”
“It offered all 113,000 of its workers incentives to leave earlier this year. About 35,000 people, or a third of its work force, agreed to the deals.”
“That increased pressure on Ford, which was providing buyouts and other incentives on a plant-by-plant basis, to offer a similar program.”
“The Ford Motor Company agreed Thursday to offer buyouts and other incentives worth as much as $140,000 each to its 75,000 hourly workers in the United States to persuade them to leave their jobs.”
Carl Grossman, I noticed your picture of “Mrs. Grossman” was NOT wearing a wedding ring. Carl…………….Carl…………………..Carl………………….ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Carl Grossman, I noticed your picture of “Mrs. Grossman” was NOT wearing a wedding ring. Carl…………….Carl…………………..Carl………………….ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WASHINGTON – U.S. Senate candidate Bob Casey Jr. used a speech at Catholic University yesterday to place himself among the growing number of Democrats seeking to loosen the Republican Party’s grip on religious voters. Decrying a climate of “fear” and division in the nation, Casey called for a renewed commitment to the “common good” and for political leadership that demands shared sacrifice in order to achieve it.
“Casey called for a renewed commitment to the “common good” and for political leadership that demands shared sacrifice in order to achieve it. ”
Ho Chi Minh, Mao Tse Tung, Kim Jong-Il, Lenin and PIAPS couldn’t have written it any better. Oh yeah, PIAPS said almost the same thing,
“We’re goin to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.” ~~Hillary Clinton, June 2004.
Democrat parasite socialist scumbags.
92 and 93
Johnny, Johnny, Johnny,
When will you learn.
You are a lamentably insufferable dolt and a reprehensible, irredeemably boring hysterical mass of warbling inanity. (Dictionary.com will help you with the words containing more than 4 letters)
Teresa
Carl, It’s time to trade her in on a younger, quieter model!
Point blank: MIke McGavick took more then a 20 million dollar payoff from safeco, after he fired thousands of people. Even after he told safeco employees that the layoffs were over, he fired hundreds more. He is power hungry, he flip flops on issues, and is nothing more then a rubber stamp for the Neo-Cons.
Point Blank: Mike McGavick is a rubber stamp for Bush and the Neo-Cons. He wants to drill in ANWR, but doesn’t want to fund Clean Air, Water or Sky acts. He is for the war in Iraq and supports Bush, and clearly they had no strategy. He is wrong for Washington state and wrong for the USA.