If you’ve watched TV, listened to the radio, read a newspaper or browsed the InterTubes in the past 24-hours, then you’ve surely heard about the “unthinkable” plot to blow up JFK Airport, that was foiled just in the nick of time:
A retired airport cargo worker and a former member of parliament in Guyana were among four men charged with a plot that officials said was intended to cause mass casualties and cripple one of the world’s busiest travel hubs.
Investigators acknowledged, however, that the scheme was so nascent that there was no developed plan for how the plotters would get explosives, let alone gain access to the tanks and pipelines they hoped to target.
Um… forgive me for being cynical, but we’ve been lied to so many times before, with Bush administration propagandists transforming the angry ramblings of narcissistic pizza-boys into sophisticated, 24-like conspiracies, well… I’m having trouble taking any of these stories seriously. I mean, I suppose I wouldn’t chafe so much at the inconvenience of the enhanced security restrictions put in place in the wake of the infamous “plot” to bring down a jetliner by mixing a high-powered liquid explosive mid-flight, if the would-be terrorists actually had the resources or know-how to carry out their threat, or if the plan was at least, you know, scientifically possible.
“The devastation that would have been caused had this plot succeeded is unthinkable,” Roslynn Mauskopf, U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, said at a Saturday afternoon news conference in Manhattan to announce the arrests.
Yeah, and one of the things that makes this plot so “unthinkable” is that it couldn’t possibly have worked. Fuel pipeline and storage tank explosions do occasionally happen, and while they can be tragic in their own right, they don’t result in the immolation of entire storage facilities or miles of pipeline. Fuel is volatile, and so engineers tend to build in automatic cutoffs and other safety stuff like that. It’s not like you can just light a fuse and the entire thing goes boom.
Can one imagine a plot like this succeeding in temporarily shutting down JFK? Sure. But then, so can a blizzard or an afternoon thunderstorm. Hell, if disrupting air travel is your goal, I’m guessing a bomb threat could be just as effective as an actual bomb, and much easier to execute. Leave a few identical, unattended bags scattered throughout the terminals, and then just sit back and watch the mayhem.
And while government officials were publicly painting the main suspect as a “self-radicalized New Yorker … plotting to betray his adopted country with a catastrophic attack,” off the record, a federal law-enforcement official admits that the suspect seemed more like a “sad old guy who’s got a lot of spit and vinegar in him.”
Mmm. Add a little salt, pepper and spices, and you’ve got the makings of a low-cal salad dressing.
Defreitas “had some ideas” about what he wanted to do, said the U.S. law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity. “But he was a long way off from being operational or even coming close to getting explosives or posing a direct threat to JFK.” The official characterized the seriousness of the plot as “a notch below Fort Dix” — the recent case in which a group of Muslim men in New Jersey were charged with planning a sniper attack on the military base.
Uh-huh. And I suppose, as far as serious terrorist threats go, the headline on this post ranks just a notch below the alleged JFK plot. We just don’t know how widely spaced the notches are.
I’m not implying that this story was fabricated or that we shouldn’t maintain our wariness, but while there are crazed religious fanatics out there, seemingly intent on destroying America, none have the means like those who currently occupy the White House. As sure as night turns into day, or our terror alert level turns from yellow to orange in the weeks before an election, the Bush administration routinely trots out hyperbolic accounts of would-be dirty bombers and pizza snipers and other such evil-doers in a transparent effort to frighten the American people into propping up their sagging support for a war in Iraq that is needlessly killing thousands of American soldiers, bankrupting our children’s future, and destroying our credibility overseas.
Ironically, these mini victories in “The War on Terror” prove exactly the opposite of what the Bushies contend: it is not a massive display of military force that disrupted these “terrorist” plots, but good, old fashioned police work. If the JFK and Fort Dix conspiracies really were anything more than just idle, angry fantasies, then they were criminal acts, and our law enforcement officials should be thanked for yet another job well done. But these same officials do themselves and our national security a disservice when they allow their efforts to be manipulated for propaganda purposes by our war-mongering White House.
Roger Rabbit spews:
“Hyperbolic” is a good way to describe the Bushie prosecutor’s frenzied press conference and the fawning rightwing media’s sensationalized coverage of this incident.
Did any of those stupid reporters stop to think about how much explosive it would take to blow up a tank farm? (Of course not.)
A small nuclear bomb could do it. But if you don’t have one of those, it would take about 100 railroad cars full of oil-saturated farm-grade fertilizer, stragetically placed, to set the tank farm alight. And even if every one of the tanks went up, the resulting fire still wouldn’t destroy any runways, terminal buildings, or planes.
Casualties? Oh, maybe three or four.
There’s an air of panting desperation about this whole thing. The Bushies badly need another terrorist attack to bail them out of their malaise.
Tuor spews:
I can boil down this entire incident thusly:
Stay scared. Vote Republican.
We’ve become a nation of cowards.
anonymously WXYZ spews:
Yeah, and one of the things that makes this plot so “unthinkable” is that it couldn’t possibly have worked.
Christ, now the little fucker is an munitions expert cum engineer … get help prick
ps God how I hope the FBI read your sensational \’give me attention\’ line.
Tuor spews:
@3
Yeah, they’ll arrest him and have a big news conference in which they say they caught him in a ‘pre-operational phase’. They’ll talk about how he knew where Sea-Tac is, and that he had “announced” plans to “blow up” Sea-Tac, but was foiled by clever detective work (Big Brother watching you).
Yeah, living in a nascent police state is a lot of fun, isn’t it?
anonymously WXYZ spews:
We’ve become a nation of cowards.
become??
you whining ass liberal ARE cowards.. cut and run fuckers please don\’t pick on me kumbazya pricks.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Oh, and another thing — oil doesn’t burn inside pipelines, especially underground pipelines. It needs, like, OXYGEN to burn — ya know?
And have you ever tried to get jet fuel to burn? Not easy. Not easy at all.
Jet fuel is simply kerosene. Have you ever used a camping stove that runs on kerosene? You can’t light the stuff. You have to “prime” the stove with white gas before the kerosene will burn.
Anyone who served in the military in Vietnam, like I did, knows about “shit burning.” At every U.S. installation in Nam, the outhouses had cut-off 55-gallon drums under the seats, and when they were full of piss and shit, the poor dogfaces on the shit-burning detail had to go behind the outhouse and pull them out, douse the piss and shit with jet fuel, and set it on fire. (You can see this procedure realistically depicted in the movie, “Platoon.”) Here’s how you do it.
Step 1 – Liberally saturate contents of barrel with jet fuel (aka kerosene)
Step 2 – Gingerly pour 2 – 3 gallons of GASOLINE on top of the jet fuel
Step 3 – Get WAY THE HELL BACK!!!
Step 4 – Throw a flare into the barrel and duck before the gas blows up
Step 5 – Add more jet fuel, as required, until all the piss and shit is consumed. To do this, you can walk right up to the barrel of burning jet fuel with more jet fuel in an open container (such as a bucket) and, completely without fear of explosion or other danger, dump the stuff into the barrel of burning jet fuel.
That, my friends, is how HARD it is to get jet fuel to burn.
Roger Rabbit spews:
In other words, jet fuel is only slightly more flammable than piss and shit made of 5% wet organic material and 95% water.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@5 Thanks for fucking up the thread, dolt! Why don’t you learn how to turn off your italics, dumbass.
anonymously WXYZ spews:
GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Press \”1\” for English
Press \”2\” to disconnect until you learn to speak English
And remember only two defining forces have ever
offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.
One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.
And YOU whining cowards deserve neither.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@3 It doesn’t take a munitions expert or engineer to figure out this scheme was nothing but pie-in-the-sky. It doesn’t even take a brain. Two cells of cognitive gray matter are sufficient, which unfortunately is twice as much as you’ve got.
anonymously WXYZ spews:
aren\’t you dead yet, you pathetic piece of wolf bait?
too bad.. about you still sucking air AND the tag screw up.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@9 And now a wingnut will lecture us on the king’s English, spelling, grammer, and other arcane subjects …
Roger Rabbit spews:
@9 “And remember only two defining forces have ever
offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.”
You wouldn’t know anything about either. Republicans have no soul, and don’t believe in freedom.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Republicans believe in only two things: The Almighty Dollar, and silencing critics.
Roger Rabbit spews:
anonymously WXYZ says @9 says:
“GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Press \”1\” for English
Press \”2\” to disconnect until you learn to speak English”
anonymously WXYZ says @9 says:
“Christ, now the little fucker is an munitions expert cum engineer … get help prick”
So which foreign sewer did you crawl out of? (And this nut wants to lecture us on the proper use of the king’s English?!)
Roger Rabbit spews:
3, 5, 9, 11 — Kevin Carns is having another bad day on HA.
Tuor spews:
I’m not a liberal, idiot. You know what they say about assumptions, and you defintely are an ass.
Anyone who will throw away their freedoms because they’re *scared* is cowardly, and that is what I was talking about.
Funny you should bring up Jesus. See, if you were a Christian, you would understand that NONE of us are worthy of what he did.
BTW, if you’re going to use the HTML tags, try to remember to close them after you’re done.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Wingnuts are stupid, but have enough brains to know they can’t get elected without ramping up fear of terrorist attack. It’s pretty obvious that’s how they think: Here’s what GOP legislative candidate Mark Griswold said on Stefan’s pathetic little competing blog:
“Congratulations Speaker Pelosi, now let the bombs fall where they may. My prediction: terror attack on domestic soil passenger aircraft within the next six months. Casualties in the 2-300 range. And, unfortunately, maybe that’s just what we need. It’s obvious people don’t remember what happened 5 years ago. Posted by FullContactPolitics at November 8, 2006 10:52 AM”
http://blog.usefulwork.com/cgi.....ry_id=7430
(Note: HA sleuth Richard Pope fingered “FullContactPolitics” as Griswold from a post in which FCP aka Griswold used both his screen and real names.)
Griswold could have used some help from his terrorist pals — he took an 85% to 15% ass-whumping from Frank Chopp. The only other Republicans I can think of who were so thoroughly repudiated by the voters are Chad Miles (85% to 15%) and Low Tax Looper, who got 4% against a write-in candidate.
Roger Rabbit spews:
The six months are up, and there’s been no airliner bombing in the U.S. Looks like Griswold’s Al Qaeda pals didn’t come through for him. He needs a better class of friends.
John Barelli spews:
Has anyone figured out who “anonymously” is? He may be a brand new wingnut.
Regardless, when he’s singing the praises of the Soldiers that are placing their lives on the line he obviously doesn’t know that many of the folks he’s talking to here are Veterans.
He also speaks of the Christ, but has no idea of His teaching.
So, Roger, would you be willing to do the honors, and give our brand new anonymous coward troll the official HorsesAss Greeting for Wingnuts?
ArtFart spews:
Whoever this guy is, evidently this morning’s news didn’t contain enough reports of people being killed and maimed in his behalf for him to get his rocks off.
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
(Yawn) another plot to ‘top 9-11’. Say, do these ‘Haitians’ have shoes?
It appears they didn’t have explosives. . .and really had no idea of where to get any Semtex.
(Yawn) How convenient this is in ‘Rotten Rudy’s’ backyard.
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
Fourteen KIA so far this weekend. . .in the quest to Keep King Abdullah satisfied. We will defend Iraqi Sunnis ( and incidently, high oil prices) to the last drop of American blood.
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
And you wonder just exactly what was so important for ‘The Big Dick’ Cheney to drop his drumstick and travel out to Riyadh last Thanksgiving? The very hint of us pulling out of Iraq and leaving the the Iraqi Sunni in a boiling sea of Shia’s.
And just what could the House of Saud whisper in Prick Cheney’s ears that would make him blanch and come to heel?
The suggestion that the Saudis would flood the world with cheap oil. . . .or else.
Roger Rabbit spews:
If the Bushies want to nab a REAL terrorist, they should arrest THIS GUY instead of letting him wander loose on Miami’s streets: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Posada_Carriles
He blew up an airliner full of kids.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@20 Your wish is my command!
Roger Rabbit spews:
Hey hyperlink idiot!!! Yeah I’m talking to YOU, Mr. “anonymously WXYZ” … in case you’re new here, these are the HA ad hoc posting rules:
1. This is a liberal blog.
2. Anyone can post here.
3. There is no censorship.
4. As liberals, our mission is to verbally kick the living shit out of you America-hating, troop-despising, pigfucking, fascist traitors!
5. No mercy for wingnuts!
6. Our terms are unconditional surrender, and there will be trials.
7. klake is a nazi.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@24 “And you wonder just exactly what was so important for ‘The Big Dick’ Cheney to drop his drumstick and travel out to Riyadh last Thanksgiving?”
To get his instructions from King Abdullah, of course.
Thomas Trainwinder spews:
Goldy..you’re wrong on this one.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Don’t worry, wingnuts, gas prices will drop soon. Why? Because King Abdullah can’t stand the idea of being displaced by Hugo Chavez as Chief Oil Baron, that’s why!
The Saudis can pull oil out of the ground for a buck-fifty a barrel, which enables them to undercut everyone else. But they aren’t selling it for $1.50 right now, are they? More like sixty bucks. Problem is, at any price above $40, Chavez has a trillion barrels of tar oil that can be extracted and processed profitably — three times the middle east’s reserves! The only way the Saudis can call the shots is to keep investors from putting capital into developing Venezuela’s tar oil. So, at some point, the Saudis have to open their spigots to force prices below forty bucks. You WILL see buck-fifty gas again! I give it two-three, maybe four years, tops. Then y’all can go back to driving your gas guzzlers for a couple years until the Saudis close the taps and crank up the price again.
With friends like Abdullah, who needs enemies? Ya gotta love it!
Roger Rabbit spews:
The Saudis probably have enough cheap oil to keep whipsawing world oil prices for another forty years.
Roger Rabbit spews:
And when they run out, Iraq has untapped reserves nearly as large as Saudia Arabia’s.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@29 How do you figure that? These yahoos have big mouths, small wallets, even smaller cranial cavities, and no explosives. Take a good look at those aerial photos, Thomas. Then explain how you blow up a tank farm, let alone a whole airport, with anything less than a nuke.
Roger Rabbit spews:
One good snowstorm creates more chaos than these guys ever could.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Funny how the Busheviks never hold press conferences about THESE terrorists:
“By: JENNIFER L. POZNER
“11/28/2006 10:25:26 AM
” … On September 11, 2006, … a man crashed his car into a building in Davenport, Iowa, hoping to blow it up and kill himself in the fire. No national newspaper, magazine, or network newscast reported this attempted suicide bombing ….
“Had the criminal, David McMenemy, been Arab or Muslim, this would have been headline news for weeks. But since his target was the Edgerton Women’s Health Center … media have not called this terrorism ….
“Since 1977, casualties … include seven murders, 17 attempted murders, three kidnappings, 152 assaults, 305 completed or attempted bombings and arsons, 375 invasions, 482 stalking incidents, 380 death threats, 618 bomb threats, 100 acid attacks, and 1,254 acts of vandalism, according to the National Abortion Federation.
“Abortion providers and activists received 77 letters threatening anthrax attacks before 9/11 …. After 9/11, Planned Parenthood and other abortion-rights groups received 554 envelopes containing white powder and messages like: ‘You have been exposed to anthrax. . . . We are going to kill all of you.’ …
“Which brings us back to car bomber, McMenemy. According to the Detroit Free Press (the only newspaper in the Nexis news database that reported his crime), he targeted the women’s health center because he thought it provided abortions. It doesn’t. (Oops!) It provides mostly low-income patients with pap smears, ob-gyn care, testing for sexually transmitted diseases, birth control, and nutrition and immunization programs for women and children. The attack caused $170,000 in property damage and left poor families without health care for a week. …
“Every fresh incident of anti-abortion terrorism is a reminder that women’s health supporters are not safe in a country where … zealots believe Jesus has empowered them to kill ….
“Is McMenemy a lone nut case, or a member of that network of violent extremists? We don’t know, because journalists haven’t investigated. Nor have they reported that just last year, nearly one in five abortion clinics experienced gunfire, arson, bombings, chemical attacks, assaults, stalking, death threats, and blockades, according to the 2005 National Clinic Violence Survey. …
“As we continue national debates on how to keep America safe from terrorism, journalists do us — and especially women — no good pretending that the threats come only from radical Muslims outside our borders. …”
Quoted under Fair Use; for complete article and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/y4qe83
Roger Rabbit spews:
97% of America’s domestic terrorists vote Republican.
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
And, of course, Roger, it is one thing for King Abdullah to jerk the price of crude around. . .He can hold hands with GW, but Allah help you if you are Saddam Hussein, and have threatened GHW. . .
Then, by God, some naive American dogfaces will just have to die to fix that.
Tuor spews:
@37
Or stated you intend to start using Euros instead of Dollars when trading oil.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@37 Here’s what went down in ’90, TFF. There’s an oilfield that straddles the Kuwait-Iraq border, and the Kuwaitis ran some horizontal drill pipe to siphon oil from the Iraqi side. Saddam didn’t care very much about the pilfered oil; after all, he’s got lots. But he had to do something about the insult. So old man Bush gave him permission to exact some “Texas justice.” Unfortunately, Saddam had an imperfect understanding of what “Texas justice” is — he interpreted it to mean he could punish the Kuwaitis by taking over their country, when what Preznit41 really meant was he could raid the Kuwaiti portion of the oilfield and kill a few Kuwaiti engineers to make an example for the rest.
Now why would Saddam want Kuwait when he’s sitting on a couple hundred billions of oil? Simple. He didn’t need or want Kuwait’s oil. HE WANTED KUWAIT’S OPEC QUOTA. That’s why he tried to make Kuwait a “province” of Iraq. This would have doubled the amount of oil he could sell without violating the quota and subjecting Iraq to punishment by Saudi Arabia for quota-cheating. If Kuwait becomes part of Iraq, then he gets Kuwait’s quota, and adds it to his own. Get it now?
Now, I suppose you’re wondering why Bush43 is in cahoots with the Saudis to invade Iraq. Everyone who assumed Bush wanted to grab Iraq’s oil got it exactly backwards. BUSH INVADED IRAQ TO KEEP IRAQ’S OIL OFF THE MARKET. It’s the difference between buck-fifty gas and three-fifty gas. Get it now?
Yer Killin Me spews:
Hey Goldy, how come you changed this from “Seatac” to “LAX” over at Daily Kos? I mean, c’mon, show some hometown pride.
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
Actually, that particular meme has been overstated, and appears not to have been so much of a factor as is commonly thought.
Saddam was doing quite a bit outside of that particular foolishness to piss off the relevant power players, such as King Abdullah and James Baker III.
Tuor spews:
@39,
Yep. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: It isn’t about selling Iraqi oil, but *controlling* Iraqi oil production… as in restricting it. It’s no surprise that most oil companies have seen nothing but quarter after quarter of record profits.
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
My comment @41 was directed to Tuor.
I concur wholeheartedly with your analysis,Roger, but would also add there were other factors at play as well. The Kuwaiti’s had incurred Saddam’s hatred for a myriad of tiny insults as well, since they were playing footsie with both the Parsis and the Marsh Arabs during the Iran/Iraq War. It always seems there are layers and layers to these things in the Gulf.
Tuor spews:
@43,
Yes, I can see that being overstated, but I don’t think it was completely irrelevant. Could be wrong on that, though.
And, yes, I think there is almost always a lot more going on than what meets the eye or makes it to our stupifying evening news. Whenever I bring up us putting the Shah of Iran into power way back when, people’s eyes start to glaze over, and when I talk about how Britian created and ruled over Iraq for some time: same reaction.
When people stop wanting to understand issues of importance, we end up getting ideologues like Bush in positions of power.
Darryl spews:
Hell…we have our own little terrorist training cell…right here in WA.
Dan Rather spews:
45
Ahhh That’s great. It inspires faith that this country still has it’s soul. That is America at its best.
Dan Rather spews:
I would encourage all republican parents to burn a picture of Hillary and the fraudulent governor as part of their civics lessons. No better way to deprogram them for the liberal public swill they get from the public screwels. Not to mention it is downright American.
harry poon spews:
re 47: I see youare teaching your kids the Republican “three I’s”: Ignorance; Intolerance; and Intransigence.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@43 Like neighbors who have lived next door to each other several generations too long. See, e.g., Hatfields and McCoys, circa 1880.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Blathering Dufus @46 & 47 is a terrorist-wannabe. Sorry, Dufus, you’re too dumb to be a terrorist. You would get caught the first time you tried to blow up a mailbox.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@48 We have no problems with our Republican troll friends that can’t be solved with a blood feud, have we?*
* Just kidding! Hatfield-McCoy humor, circa 1880.
mullah cimoc spews:
mullah cimoc say ameriki needing for remember mentally retarded black mans in florida. big terrorists??? like bush say or all the big lie. A. Big lie and sometimes the provocation by government secret agent.,
please ameriki need google: mighty wurlitzer +cia
usa government so afraid now. him army man getting the picked off every day more and more
to reach the majic number of him ten black body bags each day as
gift for ameriki people.
him legal strategy to backfire and them finding themselves face the war crimes charge.
him ameriki ruler elites make up the even more lies each day for mind control ameriki people.
Soon maybe braveheart ameriki leading resistance against israeli spies in whitehouse
and pentagon–then aemrika be the free once again .
this bible justice. masters in tel aviv thinking: yes, we send our slaves the ameriki
for attack our enemy him arab. then so confident. who can estimation that total ameriki
society destroy and israeli masters face the true destruction. that why this bible justice.
all president candidate him him only the two qualification: traitor to usa people and main goal
to serve him master in tel aviv.
YOS LIB BRO spews:
ROGER @ 27
I NEVER TIRE OF READING YOUR POSTING RULES FOR NEWCOMERS.
ESPECIALLY #7!
YOS LIB BRO spews:
ROGER
I RECOMMEND A CHANGE TO RULE #7:
KLAKE AND DUFUS ARE NAZIS.
Libertarian spews:
How do you liberals plan to keep the Republicans from winning the 2008 elections? So far, it doesn’t appear that the Democrats have any front-runners who are electable. Obama and Hillary won’t win.
RightEqualsStupid spews:
Well Libertarian we know there absolutely WON’T be any major Libertarian candidates winning. As for 08? I don’t think we need a plan. The Publican Presidential hopefuls are so fucking dismal they’re still recruiting someone to run. And no doubt ANY of our candidates will have a built in advantage given the destruction of American values that occured under Bush.
Libertarian spews:
Pride cometh before a fall, RightEquals.
Sure, the Libertarians won’t win the White House is 2008. Neither will the Socialist Party of America or the American Nazis.
But if the Dems run Hillary they’ll lose to the Republicans in ’08. obama won’t win either.
ArtFart spews:
30 There’s obviously another way, Roger. The Saudis could simply have their “white slaves” (that would be us) go fuck things up in Venezuela. That is, assuming Chavez doesn’t get so taken up in his own hubris that he does it himself.
RightEqualsStupid spews:
So Libertarian does comparing your party with Nazis or Socialists bring you lots of positive attention?
Legolas spews:
RightEquals @ 59,
If the Dems nominate Hillary or Obama in 2008, they’ll lose just like the Librtarians, Socialists, and Nazis. Does that mean I’m comparing the Democrats to the Socialists and Nazis in a way to assume they are the same? No, it does not.
Nice try RightEquals, but saying that some things have circumstances in common does not necessarily mean all those things are the same. If you have red blood cells and Puddybuddy has red blood cells, are you both the same? No, I don’t think you are the same, regardless of the biology involved.
Libertarian spews:
Good points, Legolas. Have you seen Gimli and Galdalf lately?
Pete @ CoolAqua spews:
Many people confuse jet fuel with gasoline. Jet fuel is essentially kerosene. While Jet fuel will burn, its actually jet fuel vapor that can be explosive. The Bush Administration description invokes the special effects vision from an action movie, I doubt that a pipeline would blow up in the same fashion as shown in action movie. The idea that JFK would be blown up is hard to take at face value. This looks like fear mongering to me.
Heathen Sinner spews:
Roger – didn’t take long before WXYZ disolved like dust.
Natehale spews:
For Roger Rabbit and Pete:
Todays jet fuel is JP8, you don’t burn shitters with that stuff ala FIREBASE BONG from Vietnam.
Frankly not single one of you can actually predict what coulda/woulda happened if they had pulled this off.
Of course all that 9/11 JP8 didn’t burn through the superstructure of the twin towers right?
Oh yeah, among other things I am also a Republican. Just what freedoms don’t I like and to what domestic terrorist group do I belong?
Don Joe spews:
To what domestic terrorist group do you belong? You named it:
http://movies.crooksandliars.c.....error1.wmv
CoolAqua spews:
Goldy – LOL
Shame on you, you probably just burned out a bank of NSA spy computers…….
Pete M
Natehale spews:
For Don Joe baby,
What does Olberman do fo a living again?
Natehale spews:
Like I said all that JP8 never burned through the superstructure of the World Trade Towers right….
christmasghost spews:
goldyroger YOU OF ALL PEOPLE want to talk about “bankrupting our children’s future”???
shoot….you have already done that YOURSELF to your own daughter by not being a responsible parent. thought of getting a job yet?
i know, i know….W-O-R-K is the only four letter word you don’t like to use…….
and just how many terrorist attacks have occurred in the US since 9/11???
Z-E-R-O.
do you think maybe, just maybe the system is working?
and what you don’t know about chemistry and jet fuel would fill an ocean. you shouldn’t show your ignorance this often.
what are you going to do for your big swan song? yell BOMB in the airport?
oh…that’s right. you would have to have MONEY to be able to fly…so i guess we are all safe from a goldstein production of “i was wrongly accused…where’s my money?”
christmasghost spews:
nate…goldyroger gets all his info from wikipedia and rosie.
he has been a failure at everything he has ever tried [read his bio…it’s a scream] EXCEPT whining. he excels at whining but there just aren’t any takers. he has a face for radio and a voice for silent movies.
and he’s just too damn good [lazy] to get a real job. so he’s a big scarcity thinker. if you have it that’s why he doesn’t. it has never occured to him that he doesn’t have “it” because he didn’t work for it. he’s an entitled ass.