Standing room only. Literally.
In another surprising debut, Al Gore’s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, amassed $365,787 at only four New York and Los Angeles theaters — or $91,447 per theater, the highest-ever average for a documentary. (By contrast, X3 averaged $32,554 per screen.)
“An Inconvenient Truth” opens this weekend in Seattle, at Pacific Place and the Guild 45th. Every American should see this movie, and a big opening weekend is crucial to securing it wider release. So please, drop whatever you have planned and go see this movie this weekend. It could be the most important movie you ever see.
GBS spews:
Done. I’m there. And, I’m buying the DVD as soon as it comes out.
Just like Fahrenheit 9/11.
Turns out, Michael Moore was 100% correct. Iraq is one fucked up mess and the Bush Republicans/supporters created it
howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS spews:
LA, NY and Seattle…. bastions of liberalism just ripe for Al’s loony adventure… I wonder, does Al supply Koolaid with each ticket?
Make sure you update us on how it plays in the heartland.
Another TJ spews:
I have to wait a couple of weeks. It will open in Spokane June 16.
The environment plays very well in the heartland. In fact it’s helping to turn the tide throughout the mountain west. The Democrats are gaining fast because they have the credibility to speak to these issues. We’ve seen many examples of this, especially in Montana, Wyoming, and Colorado.
Proud To Be An Ass spews:
Yup. Those ranchers in Wyoming just LOVED it when the oil companies sucked their water tables dry or contaminated them.
We’ll be sure to update you. Count on it.
Robert spews:
Obviously not very scientific and not totally correlated with global warming, but if you talk to almost anyone who has lived in Seattle for the past 5+ decades, they’ll say something like “we used to get several snow storms each winter now we don’t seem to get any”. I don’t recall any measurable snow in Seattle this past winter.
Another TJ spews:
Robert,
I’m always wary of “old-timer” reports (How far did they walk to school in the snow? Up hill? Both ways?), though they’re not without their value. However, if you really want to see the effects of warming, take a look at what’s happening to Alaska. Just don’t have anything in your mouth when you do; it will end up all over your computer screen, and nobody wants that.
Roger Rabbit spews:
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It just hasn’t dawned on you yet, has it Ass, that YOU are the looney.
Richard Ryan Anderson spews:
Just found this site through the news tribune community blog links. It’s nice to see that they have a feature like that. Anyhow, keep up the good work! The wife and I will be seein the movie sometime at the grand.
Your Friendly Neighborhood Webmaster @
Holistic Forge Works
Roger Rabbit spews:
Speaking of loonies, we don’t hear much anymore about Bjorn Lomborg, who became an overnight rightwing darling after publication of his book, “The Skeptical Environmentalist,” which purported to debunk nearly the whole body of environmental science. While Al Gore is still very much a public voice, Lomborg and his tome have faded into obscurity.
Update: In 2003, the Danish Committee on Scientific Dishonesty ruled that Lomborg’s book is scientifically dishonest, citing:
“1. Fabrication of data;
2. Selective discarding of unwanted results (selective citation);
3. Deliberately misleading use of statistical methods;
Distorted interpretation of conclusions;
4. Plagiarism;
5. Deliberate misinterpretation of others’ results.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg
With Lomborg and his bombast out of the way, what we need next is formation of a Danish Committee on Intellectual Dishonesty to take on another literary charlatan revered by wingnuts: Ayn Rand, whose economic and social theories are what you wash hogs with.
Roger Rabbit spews:
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Welcome to HorsesAss, Richard! As you can see, the site proprietor allows America-hating fascist traitors to post here without censorship, and it’s up to liberals with backbone to give them their just desserts!!!
Oh yeah, one more thing you should know about the HA cast of characters: The poster calling himself “klake” is a nazi.
Roger Rabbit spews:
In case I forgot to mention it — klake is a nazi.
AlGore spews:
6 – However, if you really want to see the effects of warming, take a look at what’s happening to Alaska.
Or better yet, the artic:
http://apnews.myway.com/articl.....VKSO0.html
Oops – that was 55 million years ago.
At least when the climate cools again we will know how to warm it back up. Driving incentives anyone?
AlGore spews:
10 -the site proprietor allows America-hating fascist traitors
And in addition to the noted lefties there are even some conservatives as well.
Roger Rabbit spews:
12
” … core samples dug up from deep beneath the Arctic Ocean floor show that 55 million years ago an area near the North Pole was practically a subtropical paradise, three new studies show.”
Perhaps this explains why the Alaska continental shelf is loaded with oil.
YO spews:
GBS THE SMALL PIISS ANT.I SEE YOUR BUDDY FAT ASS MOORE IS BEING SUED BY AN ARMY SGT BECAUSE MOORE USED HIM IN HIS MOVIE WITH OUT A REALSE BY THE SGT.THE SGT SAYS MOORE IS FULL OF SHIT JUST LIJE GBS.HEY GBS FIND YOUR DD214 YET SHIT FOR BRAINS.
Roger Rabbit spews:
“Yo” is a contraction of the word “yahoo” (as in “trailer park yahoo”) and is properly spelled “Y’o.” Y’o, like most trollfucks, can’t even spell his own fucking name.
HOW TO SPELL CONTRACTIONS
Yahoo = Y’o
Did not = Didn’t
Roger Rabbit spews:
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So what. Anybody can file a lawsuit, but that doesn’t mean you’ll get a verdict in your favor. Let the sergeant sue Moore all he wants — after all, this is America, where litigation is the national pastime and there are more lawyers than barbers! Big fucking deal.
Roger Rabbit spews:
12 (continued)
The point always missed by rightwing dunces is that natural climatological cycles occur over GEOLOGIC TIME whereas human-induced climate changes occur within a few decades, giving humanity insufficient time to adapt to, for example, the homes of millions of people being submerged by meltwater from the polar ice sheets.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Click here for wingnut’s sixth-grade portrait: http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk...../dunce.png
rujax206 spews:
Dearest howcanyoubePROUDtobeanevilfuckingchristianistbitch-
BTW, howcanyoubePROUDtobeanevilfuckingchristianistbitch?
Just wonderin’.
Oh Yeah….
Wrong about Global Warming,
Wrong about Al Gore.
RicHard Ryan Anderson spews:
God bless America. God Bless George Bush.
LeftTurn spews:
I am going to order 25 copies of the DVD to distribute to local libraries and schools. This way, the wingers won’t be able to use budgets to keep people from seeing the truth. I love this stuff. The wingers can’t stand it when the left gets this kind of traction. Across the country, wingers are holding crying and moaning sessions complaining about their poll numbers, the sucess of left-wing ideas, it’s great! And Lush Flimbaugh has to pee into a cup in front of his probation officer. Can life get much better? HE HE!
LeftTurn spews:
Another GOP train wreck. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13068951/
Another republican crook going to jail. Another GOP seat in big trouble. Life really is good!
Will we eventually run out of jail space for all these cowardly republican crooks?
proud leftist spews:
Truth is always inconvenient to rightwingers. Facts are their foes. Ideology trumps reality everyday in the rightwing mindset. Republicans can spin the truth, but they can never embrace it. The sorry-assed bastards will deny global warming even when their oceanfront home get swallowed by the sea.
ArtFart spews:
Re: #12…there’s also ample evidence (i. e. lots of buried petrified trees) to the effect that what is now the Sahara desert was a dense hardwood forest only a few thousand years ago. Some have speculated that the change was accellerated by the Egyptians and others clearing a significant area for agriculture, but more likely the principal cause was a slight change in the tilt of the Earth’s axis with respect to the orbital plane. Nonetheless, it’s at least interesting to keep that in mind while observing the changes we’ve seen due to deforestation and intensive cultivation in the Amazon Valley, Haiti, sub-Saharan Africa and other places.
Mr. Cynical spews:
The Fringe Lunatic Left lap this shit up.
What’s next??
Probably a movie showing that it wasn’t really a jet…but a cruise missle that hit the Pentagon on 9/11….starring Howie Dean and Dennis Kuccinich.
“Barbra Streisand told Diane Sawyer that we’re in a global warming crisis, and we can expect more and more intense storms, droughts and dust bowls. But before they act, weather experts say they’re still waiting to hear from Celine Dion.” –Jay Leno
“Experts say this global warming is serious, and they are predicting now that by the year 2050, we will be out of party ice.” –David Letterman
“Former Vice President Al Gore starring in a new documentary about global warming. I believe it’s called [Leno snores]. … The film actually features Al Gore and explores his journey on how he first got interested in temperature change. It started back when he was vice president. He noticed how the temperature would change, like whenever Bill would walk into the room, it would get warm and whenever Hillary walked into the room, it got cold.” –Jay Leno
GBS spews:
I’m still waiting for a conservative to answer my question on the global warming debate. Perhaps How Can You Be Proud To Be An Ass will take up the challenge?
In the Terri Schivo case the conservatives said we should “error on the side of life.” Yes?
So, in the case of global warming, what if the conservatives are wrong?
The consequences are somewhere between massive environmental disasters that would make Katrina look small to the extinction of the human race.
What if the liberals are wrong?
Well, we kept our environment a little bit cleaner.
Convince me why you wouldn’t error on the side of life now?
Observer spews:
AlGore’s Movie………….
Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
GBS spews:
Roger Rabbit @ 11:
You forgot to mention that JCH is the habitual LIAR, and YO is the retarded ass hole who won’t leave your porch until you pay him for the pizza.
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
Leftturn@23 said “Will we eventually run out of jail space for all these cowardly republican crooks?”
Naw, we can just take a page out of Joe Arpaio’s book. He’s got lots of spare tents. . .and Nutra-Loaf® will be good for their syphilitic souls.
GBS spews:
Observer @ 28:
Read the link at 23. Another GOP’er going to jail.
Yaaaawwwwwnnnnnnn. What’s new? Same conservative crooks, different day.
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
Let’s try that again Nutra-Loaf< ®>
Libs are gullible spews:
Libs will believe anything. Goldy got the talking points memo to talk up this film and bring some credibility to Gore. LOL.
If you think any redneck is gonna trade in the 4×4 for a Prius or sell the Dirt Bikes and Jet Skis, you’re living in the same deluded world as Gore.
No one gives a rip about these doomsday predcitions that come out every so often with the same doom and gloom different disaster.
Check back in 10 years. The sea levels won’t have changed one inch. These genius modelers can’t predict the whether a few days out, yet we’re supposed to believe they’ve got the disasters all figured out.
You folks are so easily duped. Once the few wackos get through packing the 1 or 2 theatres peddling Gore’s lies, it will quickly drop off the box office charts. Why did it only open in a small number of thatres in a few very Blue cities? Gee, maybe to inflate the per theatre take? Why not? The same statistic inflation tactics work great for the IPCC Global Warming modelers.
Jack Burton spews:
OK, Let’s just say this really is a valid phenomena.
How do you propose we “fix” it.
How do you propose the whole world follows your plan?
Or will this just be another Anti-Corporation, America is screwing the world scheme that only the USA will have to follow?
me spews:
Another TJ,
I’ve been digitizing family photo’s of the Tacoma area from the mid 50’s to the early 90’s and I seem to come across photos of a snow storm of 6” to 12” every other year or so until the mid 1980’s. I’ve found a few from the 50’s and 60’s with a couple of feet of snow.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7.....t-1701610/
GBS spews:
@ 30:
No problem. That issue solves itself inside the prison. The conservative chicken hawks WILL stand all huddled together in the corner until some inmate named Bubba wants a blow job. Then either, the Duke-ster, Ken Lay, Jeffery Skilling, Jack Abramoff, Scooter Libby, Safvavian, Neil Volz, Tom DeLay, Tony Rudy, Senior White House Official #1, Representative #2, Dennis Kozlowski, Bernard Ebbers, John Rigas . . . will, you know, service them for a cigarette that they have to give to their prison pimp for protection.
Hey, MTR, what’s the tax rate on those prison cigarettes that the conservative “producers” will be working for? Do we need a Chi Squared analysis to solve that one?
klake spews:
1. 8
Welcome to HorsesAss, Richard! As you can see, the site proprietor allows America-hating fascist traitors to post here without censorship, and it’s up to liberals with backbone to give them their just desserts!!!
Oh yeah, one more thing you should know about the HA cast of characters: The poster calling himself “klake” is a nazi.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 5/31/06@ 4:01 pm
Thank you, thank you, Mr. Rabbit for your kind thoughts and clairvoyant perspective point of view. Yes I love you Roger but not for your great wisdom. The only crime I will commit to is that I support the Democrats and not the old Socialist Democrats that rob the party of its greatness and clear leadership. There is one thing I have to warn you all about is the funny little bunny loves to plagiarize all subject matter. Roger was born before Hitler became chancellor of Germany, and today he is a resident expert on Nazism in America. Now he is a little fuzzy about who are a traitors and calls just about everyone by that name except his close friends. We are still trying to identify who his friends are among the road kill in the streets of Seattle.
Mark The Redneck Kennedy spews:
While you gullible fools are lapping this up, ask yourself “Where’s the data”? Maybe cool stories. Maybe one of your heros is telling you stuff you want to hear.
But look for scientific data. Look for rational analysis using grown up methods.
And if you see the chi squared analysis of whether current temps are beyond historical norms, let me know.
Mark The Redneck Kennedy spews:
Hey Rakeface, splain to us what chi squared is. I’ll even letcha off the hook if you google it and just cut and paste. Just so you have some fucking idea how grown ups work.
GBS spews:
@ 34:
I bet you applauded Bush for pulling out of the Kyoto treaty?
It’s those kinds of international treaties that begins the dialogue of cooperation between nations. There are many of them; like the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.
To answer your question about fixing it is to first recognize that regardless of whether or not global warming is a viable phenomena that eventually we have to move past fossil fuels, coal and nuclear energy.
Which means Corporate America has two options: take the lead in developing alternative energies that will meet the needs of tomorrows generations and be an exporter of energy and energy technology, or be a 1970’s era Chrysler Corp and keep doing the same shit and wondering why you’re not getting better results.
By reducing green house gases, the one thing we do control, we may avoid the tipping point that sends the climate into chaos. Some thins are beyond our control, but it’s time to look at the facts. The science is in, global warming is a self inflicted wound. At least Gov. Schwarzenegger said so much.
BTW, nice job of avoiding why, as a conservative, you are NOT erring on the side of life.
Gore ignores Dissenters and refuses debate spews:
Al Gore’s “An Inconvenient Truth” opens around the country this week. In the film Gore pulls together evidence from every corner of the globe to convince us that climate change is happening fast, we are to blame, and if we don’t act immediately, our Earth will be all but ruined. However, as you sit through the film, consider the following inconvenient truths:
(1) Near the beginning of the film, Gore pays respects to his Harvard mentor and inspiration, Dr. Roger Revelle. Gore praises Revelle for his discovery that atmospheric CO2 levels were rising and could potentially contribute to higher temperatures at a global scale. There is no mention of Revelle’s article published in the early 1990s concluding that the science is “too uncertain to justify drastic action.” (S.F. Singer, C. Starr, and R. Revelle, “What to do about Greenhouse Warming: Look Before You Leap. Cosmos 1 (1993) 28-33.)
(2) Gore discusses glacial and snowpack retreats atop Mt. Kilimanjaro, implying that human induced global warming is to blame. But Gore fails to mention that the snows of Kilimanjaro have been retreating for more than 100 years, largely due to declining atmospheric moisture, not global warming. Gore does not acknowledge the two major articles on the subject published in 2004 in the International Journal of Climatology and the Journal of Geophysical Research showing that modern glacier retreat on Kilimanjaro was initiated by a reduction in precipitation at the end of the nineteenth century and not by local or global warming.
(3) Many of Gore’s conclusions are based on the “Hockey Stick” that shows near constant global temperatures for 1,000 years with a sharp increase in temperature from 1900 onward. The record Gore chooses in the film completely wipes out the Medieval Warm Period of 1,000 years ago and Little Ice Age that started 500 years ago and ended just over 100 years ago. There is evidence from throughout the world that these climate episodes existed, but on Gore’s Hockey Stick, they become nothing more than insignificant fluctuations (Gore even jokes at one point about the Medieval Warm period).
(4) You will certainly not be surprised to see Katrina, other hurricanes, tornadoes, flash floods, and many types of severe weather events linked by Gore to global warming. However, if one took the time to read the downloadable “Summary for Policymakers” in the latest report from the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), one would learn that “No systematic changes in the frequency of tornadoes, thunder days, or hail events are evident in the limited areas analysed” and that “Changes globally in tropical and extra-tropical storm intensity and frequency are dominated by inter-decadal and multi-decadal variations, with no significant trends evident over the 20th century.”
(5) Gore claims that sea level rise could drown the Pacific islands, Florida, major cities the world over, and the 9/11 Memorial in New York City. No mention is made of the fact that sea level has been rising at a rate of 1.8 mm per year for the past 8,000 years; the IPCC notes that “No significant acceleration in the rate of sea level rise during the 20th century has been detected.”
(6) Near the end of the film, we learn of ways the United States could reduce emissions of greenhouse gases back to the levels of 1970. OK. Assume the United States accomplishes this lofty goal, would we see any impact on climate? The well-known answer is no. China, India and many other countries are significantly increasing their emission levels, and global concentrations of CO2 may double this century no matter what we decide to do in the United States. Even if the Kyoto Protocol could be fully implemented to honor the opening of this movie, the globe would be spared no more than a few hundredths of a degree of warming.
Throughout the film Gore displays his passion for the global warming issue, and it is obvious that he has dedicated a substantial amount of time to learning about climate change and the greenhouse effect. This leads to an obvious question. The Kyoto Protocol was negotiated in December of 1997 giving the Clinton-Gore administration more than three years to present the Protocol to the United States Senate for ratification. Given Gore’s position in the senate and his knowledge and passion for global warming, one must wonder why then Vice President Gore did not seize on what appears to have been an opportunity of a lifetime?
“An Inconvenient Truth” is billed as the scariest movie you’ll ever see. It may well be, but that’s in part because it is not the most accurate depiction of the state of global warming science. The enormous uncertainties surrounding the global warming issue are conveniently missing in “An Inconvenient Truth.”
Dr. Robert C. Balling Jr. is a professor in the climatology program at Arizona State University, specializing in climate change and the greenhouse effect.
GBS spews:
don’t need to look it up on Google, it’s a way to measure statistical anomalies across certain data populations. However, there are, at times, flaws to the Chi Squared Analysis models.
Now it’s your turn.
Describe the potential flaw in the data analysis that is inherent to the Chi2 model.
klake spews:
1. The point always missed by rightwing dunces is that natural climatologically cycles occur over GEOLOGIC TIME whereas human-induced climate changes occur within a few decades, giving humanity insufficient time to adapt to, for example, the homes of millions of people being submerged by melt water from the polar ice sheets.
Comment by Roger Rabbit— 5/31/06@ 4:19 pm
You mean like New Orleans Roger where the fools stuck around and practice their swimming? Roger the polar melts are due to all that hot gases leaving the cities where your friends pass off methane gases all night long. You know all those Peta folks eating grain all day long and regurgitating the food from both orifices. You need a soap box to stand on in Hides Park and scream all day long the sky is falling. The last statement happens today due to idiots building their homes in the wrong places. You know like New Orleans!
GBS spews:
Uhhhh Mark The RETARD:
Googleing the flaws in the Chi2 model, are you?
Good luck, DUMB ASS.
Clocks ticking. Tick. Tock. Tick. Tock. Of course a “smart grown up” like yourself could just fire that answer off the top of your head. Right?
Baa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa
NOPE. You can’t.
GBS spews:
C’mon Mark!!
What’s taking so long? Chi2 flaw. What is it?!?!?!?
GBS spews:
Yawwwnnnnnn.
Mark. Got the answer yet? Need a lifeline? Would you like to call a friend for help?
GBS spews:
Chi2 Mark, the flaw!!
What’s keeping you???
GBS spews:
I can see it now.
Mark The RETARD furiously Googleing “Chi Squared flaw” to understand what the flaw is in the Chi2 model is, but he can’t find the answer.
Gore ignores Dissenters and refuses debate spews:
New Study Points to an Inconvenient Truth about Global Warming
Mistakes, Ignored Data Bely Claims of Catastrophe and Extinction
DALLAS (May 15, 2006) – Hitting theaters nationwide next week, Al Gore’s global warming documentary, “An Inconvenient Truth,” is the latest in a line of films, TV shows and news features warning of a impending global catastrophe caused by human-induced climate change. Yet according to a new study published by the National Center for Policy Analysis (NCPA), the most inconvenient truth is that the science behind these claims is fatally flawed.
“The complexity of the climate and the limitations of data and computer models mean all projections of future climate change are unreliable at best,” said David Legates, author of the study and the director of the University of Delaware’s Center for Climatic Research. “Science does not support claims of drastic increases in global temperatures, nor claims of human influence on weather events or extinctions.”
The study notes that climate models used as the basis for global warming claims routinely miss key climate factors, which results in false predictions of catastrophe. Furthermore, some official reports, including the U.S. National Assessment, published in 2000, describe only the 2 most extreme predictions, ignoring 30 other models that are far less radical.
Many activists have attributed increases in hurricanes, floods, droughts, tornados, hail storms and heat waves to global warming caused by human activities. However, scientific evidence does not support their claims. For instance, the unprecedented destruction caused by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita was blamed on climate change – but experts say these recent storms were part of a natural cycle and the increased damage was due to increased coastal populations and development.
Some have also attempted to link global warming to species extinction. However, the study notes that the link is tenuous. For example:
Recent claims that polar bear populations are threatened by global warming ignore the fact that only two polar bear populations are declining (both in regions were temperatures are falling), while others are increasing and most are stable.
Recent claims that coral reefs are “bleaching” (losing color and dying off) due to warming oceans ignore evidence that bleaching appears to be a healthy response in which corals expel one symbiotic species of algae for a better-adapted species that allow corals to thrive in warmer waters.
“These over-hyped claims of extinction are the ‘Coca-Colalization’ of science,” concluded NCPA Senior Fellow H. Sterling Burnett. “If you want to sell a product, or a cause, just tie it to a cute, cuddly animal. Snails, snakes and spiders withering in the sun just don’t pack the same emotional punch as a cuddly, furry polar bear slipping beneath the melting ice.”
GBS spews:
See, Mark the RETARD “heard” the RNC talking point and thought he’d throw that out there to make himself look smart.
Truth is, one follow up question and, oops, tripped up on his lack of knowlede.
GBS spews:
OK, Mark The ‘TARD
You got 24 hours to piece together a coherent thought on the Chi2 flaw.
6:20pm tomorrow.
Tick tock, you fag.
Another TJ spews:
Neat pics, uh… me.
Just to be clear, I’m not saying there’s nothing to be learned from long-time residents’ observations. I’m just amused by how often they end up sounding like “Kids these days, harumph.”
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
Good luck GBS! I’m still waiting for an coherent discussion of the two heat cycles the Carnot Cycle and the Stirling Cycle and how changing from one to the other would have relevance in a diminishing fuel economy. Can’t google that one either.
Jack Burton spews:
GBS.A personal attack will not help global warming. Well at least you call me a name.
Non fossil fuels? I’m on board with that fix as long as the transition makes sense.
Nukes…..Not no but hell no!
Solar…..Not Yet maybe soon.
Wind turbines….Yes. Only one catch, they are required to have braking mechanisms on them to keep from chopping up the birdies.
Hybrid autos…..Almost there, getting better every year.
BTW: When will Al Gore & Co. stop driving around in big cars/ SUVs, owning big houses, and flying around in private jets? Yet I have to change my life style for the Ecology. Hmmmm.
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
Let’s see, Jack you decry personal attacks. . .and then attack Al Gore, not his arguement or his facts. TYPICAL WINGER .
Another TJ spews:
Yet according to a new study published by the National Center for Policy Analysis (NCPA), the most inconvenient truth is that the science behind these claims is fatally flawed.
What?! A free-market “think (sic) tank” disagrees with Gore’s movie? Stop the presses!
Dr. Robert C. Balling Jr
And someone who has received hundreds of thousands of dollars in funding from coal and oil interests is trying to trash Gore’s movie?! Get out! Now I’ve seen everything…
Mark The Redneck Kennedy spews:
Rakeface – I’m asking the questions here. Statistics is the art of separating “signal” from “noise”. Chi squared is a very common method of making that determination.
The fact of the matter is that current temperatures are well within normal variations with a clear causal effect of the…. umm…. Sun.
Global warming is religion. It certainly isn’t science. Go ahead and believe it if you want. You can worship your hero Algore. I’m OK with all that… but I will draw the line at making government policy for all of us based on your kooky beliefs in your kooky religion.
So unless you can show me a chi squared analysis that shows at whatever confidence level you want that current temps are a real statistical anomoly, shut the fuck up.
Once we’ve gotten past this discussion, then we can move on to the difference between correlation and causation. But let’s start at the very beginning.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Reply to Imposter @13
There are no conservatives here, just a herd of illiterate America-hating fascist traitors who call themselves “conservatives,” which isn’t surprising given they lie about everything else, too. In addition, the America-hating fascist traitors can’t even spell their own fucking names.
Mark The Redneck Kennedy spews:
Hey Rakeface – Here’s an “inconvenient truth”… why didn’t your boy Algore convince bubba to sign up to Kyoto. They had fucking years to do it. Why didn’t they if its such a fucking “crisis”.
Also, did you know that the big offenders who signed up to it haven’t even attempted to cut back on CO2 emissions? Didja know that? Do you give a fuck?
Roger Rabbit spews:
29
GBS — now really, stop and ask yourself, would you buy a pizza from that man?
smokin in the boys room spews:
While most of us just complain about the weather, the SUV drivers are actually doing something about it.
Roger Rabbit spews:
29
Or, let me put it this way, would you EAT a pizza you bought from that man?
For the Clueless spews:
57 – Asshole. Can you tell us why you didn’t contribute $100 to Maria Cantwell’s campaign after YOU LOST YOUR challenge to Goldy?
Until YOU satisfy YOUR obligation, then G.T.F.O!!!
Sorry lame excuses about a website don’t cut it…
RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:
So Al is now in the movie making business. He should stick to what he does best, losing presidential elections. Hehehe
Roger Rabbit spews:
34
Jack, you asked how we propose to “fix” it. To simplify things, let me begin by explaining how NOT to fix global warming, high energy prices, and tight energy supplies all in one fell swoop — and that’s by thinking we can drill our way to oil abundance. Ain’t gonna happen, pardner. There’s just not enough oil left to dig up.
To demonstrate this point, let’s take two numbers, and divide one by the other. The world has about 900 billion barrels of oil reserves, of which two-thirds is in the Middle East. The world consumes 30 billion barrels a year. Divide 900 by 30 and we’ve got 30 years before the oil runs out.
Will more oil be discovered? Sure, but not 900 billion bbls of it. The big fields were found long ago. Little fields can’t produce enough to make more than an incremental addition to supply.
Whether 30 years or 40 years from now — the oil is gonna run out, Jack. And probably within the lifetimes of today’s young people. Something will have to replace it.
Why aren’t we working harder to invent the next-generation energy technologies NOW? How smart is it to keep sending shiploads of money to countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Russia until the last drop of oil is gone?
Instead of spewing even more CO2 into the atmosphere by turning from oil to even more expensive and environmentally destructive fossil fuels like tar sands and shale oil, why not invent and invest in energy technologies that will replace fossil fuels altogether? We’ll have to eventually, so why not sooner than later?
That’s Gore’s message. That’s the Democrats’ message. What’s your solution, Jack? Fight endless wars over the last barrels of foreign oil? Keep selling our country to hostile foreigners until the oil runs out and the machinery of civilization grinds to a halt? This ought to be a no-brainer.
LeftTurn spews:
You can tell how worried the inbred right wing morons are about Gore’s film. We all know the deal. The more the right wing attacks, the more worried it is. And Gore gives them plenty to worry about. After all, he beat Bush once – no reason to assume he couldn’t do it again, especially now that people know the truth about Bush and his own party is abondoning him.
RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:
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Who said we were attacking? We are LOFAO.
Roger Rabbit spews:
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“You mean like New Orleans Roger where the fools stuck around and practice their swimming?” Commentby klake— 5/31/06@ 6:04 pm
No, I didn’t mean New Orleans, dumbass, but since you raise the point, let’s dispel some rightwing bullshit right now.
Those people didn’t stay in New Orleans by choice. They stayed because they had no way to get out, and/or no place to go, and/or no money to get there.
Now let’s talk about global warming. Redneck’s wilfull ignorance notwithstanding, it’s an indisputable fact that glaciers are receding and the polar caps are melting, as opposed to growing, and mean sea level is rising. The EPA’s sea level project manager roughly estimates a “background” rise of about 1 foot every 100 years, and further estimates that atmospheric warming caused by greenhouse gasses adds another 1 foot per century. However, given the uncertainty of variables, these estimates could be off either way. In a worse case scenario, sea level could rise by 20 feet in a relatively short time. http://whyfiles.org/091beach/5.html
Roger Rabbit spews:
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“Thank you, thank you, Mr. Rabbit for your kind thoughts and clairvoyant perspective point of view. … The only crime I will commit to is that I support the Democrats ….” Commentby klake— 5/31/06@ 5:50 pm
You’re welcome, nazi. Give credit where credit is due, I always say. If you’re a Democrat, I’m Mother Goose … now click on this photo and tell me how many feathers you see: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obi.....84-9052717
Roger Rabbit spews:
ROGER RABBIT QUIZ
Question: What’s a sure-fire way to spot a Republican?
Answer: When the going gets tough, he says he’s a Democrat.
Bob in SeaTac spews:
Warmed Over
Al Gore’s new movie is the feel-good hit of the summer–but not much more.
BY HOLMAN W. JENKINS JR.
Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT
It’s only been out a week, but audiences seem not to have poured forth from Al Gore’s movie and, in an unprecedented reversal of political polarity, demanded higher gasoline prices.
This is bad news for Republicans, who will bear the burden of high gas prices to the polls in November. Not that Mr. Gore’s movie advocates higher gasoline prices. It reportedly doesn’t advocate any policy that would actually relieve the fears of climate worriers. When he last sought the White House in 2000, recall, it was Mr. Gore who persuaded President Clinton to open up the strategic reserve to provide consumers with cheaper gas, harm to the climate be darned.
Here’s a test. What if science showed conclusively that global warming is produced by natural forces, with all the same theorized ill effects for humanity, but that human action could forestall natural change? Or what if man-made warming were real, but offsetting the arrival of a natural ice age? Would Mr. Gore tell us meekly to submit to whatever nature metes out because it’s “natural”?
Mr. Gore’s next movie should be about the urge to propitiate the gods with sacrifices, a ritual whose appeal did not go out with the Aztecs. Yes, Al, let us give billions to alternative energy bureaucrats and emissions regulators. This we do as a tribute to your shamanism, although it will make little appreciable difference to the accumulation of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
That said, a valid service is performed in satisfying the eternal human appetite for gloom and doom (and no virgins were sacrificed), distracting people from the reality of life, which is that we all are doomed, while the universe, the Earth and all that environmentalists hold dear will go remorselessly on and on without us.
In a million years, the time it takes the earth to sneeze, the planet will likely be shorn of any conspicuous sign we were ever here, let alone careless with our CO2, dioxins, etc. Talk about an inconvenient truth.
How much more securing, in a way, to believe we are ruining the planet than the planet just does not care about us, and will run rampant with life long after we are dust. And how pleasant to be able to transmute our fury over our fate into incoherent feelings of self-heroism against our present “enemies.” Thus Washington Post columnist, and future dust, Sebastian Mallaby: “By their contempt for expert opinion on everything from Iraqi reconstruction to the cost of their tax cuts, Republicans have turned [Al Gore] into a hero. By their serial dishonesty, Republicans have created a market for ‘An Inconvenient Truth.’ ”
That felt good, didn’t it? That satisfied a need.
But we digress. A remarkable and improbable thing is that, despite presumably devoting decades of study to the subject of global warming, nothing Al Gore has learned leads him to say anything that would strike the least informed, most dogmatic “green” as politically incorrect. He doesn’t discover virtues in nuclear power. He doesn’t note the cost-benefit advantages of strategies that would remove CO2 from the atmosphere, rather than those that would stop its creation.
Anybody who deeply searches into any subject of popular debate inevitably comes back with views and judgments to shock the casual thinker. Mr. Gore utterly fails to vouchsafe this reliable telltale of seriousness.
That man-made carbon dioxide has a net planetary warming effect is an important hypothesis, one that science can make stronger or weaker, but can’t prove. It may be true, but a layperson only has to look into the antecedents of today’s “consensus” to realize it wouldn’t be too surprising if tomorrow’s consensus were that CO2 is cooling, or neutral, or warming here and cooling there.
And evidence of warming is not evidence of carbon-driven warming. These are different things, at least until scientists can be reasonably certain they’ve eliminated other factors and interrelationships that contribute to climate variability. But scientists are not close to understanding or even knowing all the factors that play into “climate change,” a process that might as well be called “climate,” since climate is always changing.
Finally, warming and what might cause warming are subjects entirely separable from the urge to gather up all the most dire and extreme speculation about what a warming earth would be like for humans and present it as scientific “truth.”
Mr. Gore’s narrative isn’t science, but science fiction. It also contains a large element of political fiction, relying on the hack theme of good guys versus bad guys. Hint to filmmakers: An honest policy argument usually takes the form of one of two questions: “Whose rights trump?” and “What’s welfare maximizing?”
Mr. Gore did not discover global warming and hasn’t been a voice in the wilderness. Our political system has looked at the question closely, in a way Mr. Gore’s film doesn’t, and repeatedly concluded that the cost of action is greater than the known or surmised risks. That’s all it can do. Thus the Senate and Presidents Clinton and Bush all made clear that they wouldn’t sign up for a Kyoto gesture that imposes real costs with no real benefits.
This argument will come back again and again, as it must. As for the auteur, where many politicians seem like overhungry adolescents, Mr. Gore seems like a stifled 9-year-old–by turns spoiled and bullied, unwilling fully to meet expectations but unwilling also to take his own path. So what about gas prices? He needs to decide: Does he want to be a presidential contender or does he want to be the deliverer of “inconvenient truths” about climate change?
Mr. Jenkins is a member of The Wall Street Journal’s editorial board. His column appears in the Journal on Wednesdays.
das spews:
For some reason the left, living in the most advanced technological civilization known to mankind, feels the need to propitiate the gods of nature: ah, let us immolate 1000 Humvees and maybe the ever warming gods of nature will look kindly on us…there’s a weird kind of primitivism to the left…or is the left’s global warming mantra just another hatchet with which to slow down the engine of capitalist growth (since the left can’t marshall argument and reason and since 70 years of Bolshevism couldn’t stop capitalism then let’s enlist Mother Nature – see? she doesn’t like capitalism…etc)
RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:
Question: What’s a sure-fire way to spot a Republican?
I know, I know. Here is one:
http://www.stopchirac.dk/ussold.gif
You donks probably don’t recognize him though. You keep forgetting to mail him a ballot every election.
Mark The Redneck Kennedy spews:
Rabbit and Pope – As lawyers, I don’t think either of you spent much time in a courtroom, but if the current case on global warming was presented to you as a judge, what would you do?
As judge, how would you establish the rules for the trial? Would this have standards as stringent as say… a contested election trial? If so, would the plaintiffs charging us with warming the globe have to prove it beyond all reasonable doubt, or mere preponderance of the evidence? Would statistical evidence even be allowed or would you insist on showing demonstrable causal relationships?
Would you accept any of the current anecdotal evidence? The stuff that’s out there now is conflicting and weak at best. A simple question like “are current temperatures beyond normal variations” goes unanswered. How would you deal with that?
Would you allow Algore to give “expert” testimony? If so, on what basis? He has zero background in science, and his university achievements were mediocre at best. Would you count his immeasurable contributions to network technologies as giving him credibility in a totally unrelated field?
We can continue this analogy with more issues, but let’s start with these… Should be interesting to see how two opposing attorneys answer these basic questions.
Mr. Cynical spews:
das—
What we are being spoonfed is a form of NEW AGE PROGRESSIVISM.
New Agers love Karma more than people.
They run around looking for Vortex’s which spew out evil and cover the Vortex with a rock….solving ALL of our problems.
They are KOOKS of the highest order.
They have ZERO hard science background and really don’t care.
And PROGRESSIVE????
Progressive my Ass.
They are a bunch of arrogant, selfish Luddites!
Union Labor members are beginning to clearly understand these KOOKS will ultimately kill more jobs than the enviro-KLOWNS already have.
It’s impossible to have a FACTUAL debate with these KLOWNS.
They prefer their “medicated dream world”.
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Chicken Little is alive and well in the New Age Progressive bowel movement.
The head Chicken Little KOOK===========ALGORE!!
Anonymous spews:
I LOVE how Mark the “super smart” guy can never actually answer a hard question. Those of us who know what he’s trying to talk about find him an endless source of amusement.
Mr. Cynical spews:
Mark sez:
“Would you allow Algore to give “expert” testimony? If so, on what basis? He has zero background in science, and his university achievements were mediocre at best. Would you count his immeasurable contributions to network technologies as giving him credibility in a totally unrelated field?”
ALGORE ain’t gonna give no expert testimony! Hell NO!!!
They is bringin’ in Ron “Richard Pryor” Sims to do that. Ron is one of ALGORE’s Homeboy’s!!
Ron has him a DEGREE in PSYCHOLOGY from CENTRAL WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY!!
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
Now, coming out of his self induced drug stupor. . .Mr. Cyanide, premier member of the Konservative Krime Klowns.
Fed any tainted meat to any school children lately, Mr Cyanide like his hero Tom Stewart?
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
Just like Roger Rabbit, I’d like to know how your washing machine works, you know, the one that launders employees L&I contributions, and makes them into BIAW slush funds. . .can you elucidate Mr. Cynical Cyanide?
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
I’m sure your holy of holies, the profit motive will excuse anything. . .including poisoning school children Krime Klown (Mr. Cynical Cyanide).
For the Clueless spews:
Another hurricane season like the last one and the denialists and howling lunatics like the BOZO will be practicing their shtick in rubber lined rooms like (un)SP – where they always were to begin with of course.
Another TJ spews:
Fed any tainted meat to any school children lately, Mr Cyanide like his hero Tom Stewart?
I think it’s time for me to shut down the computer. I read this sentence and thought, “What the hell? Tony Stewart seems like a bit of a dick, and, yeah, he’s a real lard-ass. But he’s a damn good driver, and I haven’t heard about him poisoning kids.” Then I read it again.
Dr. E spews:
72
You win the prize for both run-on sentence length and specious reasoning.
Mark The Redneck Kennedy spews:
Anon 76 – “Bring it on”…. show me how fucking smart you are.
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
Another hurrican season liken the last one, and Bush will simply transfer the remaining contents of Fort Knox to the coffers of Kellog, Brown & Root and their ilk.
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
There is no natural disaster, no human misfortune, that the Konservative Krime Klowns will not try to use to enrich themselves. And barring a natural disaster, they can create a war to do so, like they have in Iraq. And are trying to foment in Iran.
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
Welsher@84 Demonstrate your brilliance by ‘splaining again how you welshed on your bet with Goldy.
das spews:
Something wrong with the profit motive, Frog Farmer?
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
When the Konservative Krime Klowns use it to justify poisoning children, Yes. Do you advocate poisoning children inthe name of profit?
das spews:
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……G’nite, sweetie…
Chicken Little spews:
Note that after Bob in SeaTac posted Jenkin’s article from today’s WSJ, there hasn’t been any real retort. Jenkins put together a reall nice slapdown there for all of the doom and gloomers. That is of course the question, if so little is known about the severity or the time frame of Global Warming if any, does it make sense to dump vast economic output into a possible dead end? Sane people say no. Most here just drone on because they heard the party line from one of their heroes.
Drone on gloomers:
The Sky is falling. The Sky is falling.
Mark The Redneck Kennedy spews:
Chicken – Global warming is the new age religion of the moonbats. Poke the obvious holes in it, and they get kinda testy about it.
For the Clueless spews:
91 – It’s a right wing hit piece. Jenkins is just serving his masters in the oil/gas industry. His party line.
Another hurricane season and we’ll see what tune you’ll play. Now that New Orleans is done, how about Galveston? Houston? Port Arthur?
Green Thumb spews:
I’d like to thank Goldy for the significant attention he has given to global warming in the last week. One of the unexpected offshoots of his commentary is that we’ve gained insight into the right-wing’s line of attack against Gore and other global warming activists.
You know what impresses me the most? After days and days of pretty intense discussion, not a single winger – not one – has changed their story line in the slightest. MTR deserves special acknowledgement for his command performance, where he acts as though he is Moses presenting the 10 Commandments when all he’s got is a ridiculously flimsy “chi-squared” argument. If he is not completely nuts then is one evil bastard.
The other thing I find striking is how retro most of the winger arguments have been. Almost all of the regulars categorically deny that global warming exists. That is SO nineties. Even the Bush administration and almost all of the oil companies no longer adhere to such a knee-jerk, hard-line position.
Another important element that these threads powerfully illustrate is the difficulty of arguing about a complex scientific issue. I’ve been following the science reasonably closely, so I know that Lomborg and Balling are industry hacks who have lost their credibility within scholarly circles. But how would the average person know that if they saw another one of the opinion pieces Balling regularly submits to newspapers around the country?
By the same token, I probably wouldn’t recognize the depth of dishonesty in Seattle Mom’s “progressive” argument against efforts to stop global warming if I wasn’t familiar with the fossil fuel propaganda campaigns over the last decade.
I would say that the wingers have succeeded in changing the discussion from what to do about global warming to whether it even exists. This, my friends, sums up why U.S. global warming policies are years behind even China and Russia. We are getting our asses kicked politically despite having science on our side about as much as you could ever ask reasonably for. Sophisticated propaganda is trumping science. Amazing. Truly amazing.
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
The only holes, other than the holes in Mark the Retarded Redneck’sw Head, that I see, are the holes in his lameass excuse for welshing on his bets.
RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:
You know the scariest part of global warming is the beach erosion. I mean where are we Kennedy’s going to rape our dates. Enough to drive a guy crazy…. well maybe not crazy, just over a bridge.
YO spews:
left turd while your at it you can buy harry reid some boxing tickets you cheap fucks are reaaly big with other peoples money.man he sold himself for a fucking boxing ticket.
Green Thumb spews:
Yo, if you were honest you’d admit that there is NO scandal regarding Harry Reid. He steadfastly opposed the industry position, and he could not legally give the commission money for the tickets anyway.
You are perpetuating an untruthful smear in an effort to hide the fact that one-party government has led to the biggest outbreak of systemic corruption in 100 years.
Makes sense. You’re a total sleazeball.
Richard Pope spews:
It says on the CAC report that fewer than 10 of the 89 K-5 Montesorri students at Graham Hill qualified for free or reduced price lunches.
http://www.seattleschools.org/.....0final.pdf
There are a total of 325 K-5 students at Graham Hill, with the other 236 being “Regular” students.
175 students at Graham Hill qualify for free or reduced price lunches, which is 54% of the entire K-5 enrollment.
http://www.seattleschools.org/.....em/220.pdf
Let’s assume that 9 (the maximum possible if less than 10) of the Montesorri students qualify for free or reduced price lunches. At most, 10.1% of the Montesorri students would qualify for free or reduced price school lunches.
This would make a minimum of 166 students out of the 243 regular students — or 68.3% — who qualify for free or reduced price school lunches.
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS! 10.1% or less of the superior Montesorri places go to poor students, while at least 68.3% of the remainder of the student body in the inferior “Regular” program at Graham Hill is poor!
I realize that parents have to pay extra for the Montesorri program, which is probably why so few poor students are enrolled in it.
But public schools are supposed to be the “great equalizer” in our society. Students from rich families should not be entitled to a better education in public schools than students from poor families, simply because the school district decides to charge extra for certain educational programs.
Montesorri should either to made equally available to all students without requiring payment from anyone, or it should be removed from the public school system.
Green Thumb spews:
Richard Pope should be forced to admit his political affiliations (e.g., paid contracts or volunteer roles with any campaigns or PACs) or his missives should be removed from HA.
YO spews:
HOW MUCH DID AL GORE WIN TN BY.OH THATS RIGHT THE FAT FUCKER COULD NOT CARRY HIS OWN STATE SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW HIM BEST.GORE IN 08.HA HA.ALL YOU LEFT TURDS SEND YOUR MONEY TO AL WHY HE EVEN HAD A TV SHOW NAMED AFTER HIM THE BIGGEST LOSER.
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
Aside from dubious legal advice, Richard Poop cannot stay on thread topics.
YO spews:
98 TELL ME WHY JOHN MACAIN PAID FOR HIS TICKETS SLIMBALL.
das spews:
Love Green Thumb’s weary head-shaking amazement that would foreclose all discussion about GW; Science has spoken; let all ye who doubt it whither under my sighs and amazement…sigh. Please believe in GW – Science has spoken! Please…
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
Trailer Park Yahoo, do your part to lessen global warming and STFU. Get on topic, or crawl back in to your forty ouncer.
YO spews:
AND TAKE YOUR GREEN THUMB AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS MAYBE YOU WILL GROW SOME BRAINS IDIOT.
Richard Pope spews:
Iraq veteran sues Moore over 9/11 film
DENISE LAVOIE
Associated Press
BOSTON – A veteran who lost both arms in the war in Iraq is suing filmmaker Michael Moore for $85 million, alleging that Moore used snippets of a television interview without his permission to falsely portray him as anti-war in “Fahrenheit 9/11.”
Sgt. Peter Damon, a National Guardsman from Middleborough, is asking for damages because of “loss of reputation, emotional distress, embarrassment, and personal humiliation,” according to the lawsuit filed in Suffolk Superior Court last week.
http://www.thestate.com/mld/th.....709855.htm
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
Das, the last I saw you were nodding off from some form of narcotic. . .probably Konservative Krime Klown Koolaid. Go back to your dramland where you aren’t reduced to the minority you represent.
Green Thumb spews:
Yo, thanks for asking. Talking Points Memo and its sister blogs have been covering the Reid issue pretty well. It looks like the AP reporter who “broke” the story has been playing fast and loose with the facts. This is looking increasingly like a blatant case of unethical journalism.
I highly recoment this blog — some superb reporting and commentary.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
Yo, do you know why I think you’re a sleazeball? Almost all of the wingers here show a striking lack of class, but you show no restraint whatsoever.
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
DickiePoo, I know you can’t get elected to anything. But if you must keep sucking up to the Konservative Krime Klowns, do it over on Unsound Politics.
Green Thumb spews:
Das, I did enjoy your previous attempt at middle-brow analysis. At least you can string words and ideas together better than the likes of YO.
What’s interesting about your comments, however, is that you don’t put anything on the table except generic “left bashing.” I suppose that must be satisfying within your circle, but it doesn’t do anything to further the discussion here.
In the absence of some value added, it would be natural to assume that you are another industry apologist who is plying yet another talking point.
Come on, tell us something interesting.
CAPS LOCK STUCK spews:
HI YO – HOW’S THE PENSIONERS AT THE WINGNUT TAVERN? ARE THEY STILL DOWN ON DUBYA FOR SELLING OUR PORTS TO THE “TOWELHEADS”? I HEARD SOME WINGERS ARE REALLY DOWN ON HIM FOR LETTIN IN THE FERINERS FROM SOUTH OF THE BORDER. DUBYA CALLS IT A GUEST WORKER PROGRAM. DON’T SEE YOU TOO OFTEN HERE THESE DAYS. GUESS ALL THOSE KEYBOARDS YOU “FINISH” OFF ON FOLLOWED UP BY CAMEL UNFILTEREDS IS GETTIN KIND OF EXPENSIVE. A FELLOW ON A GUVMINT PENSION HAS TO WATCH HIS PENNIES. PEACE OUT SAILOR…
YO spews:
HEY FUCKHEAD AT 113 I DONT NEED TO WATCH MY PENNIES GUESS I FORGOT TO TELL YOU THAT THE GUVMENT SEND ME 4 CHECKS EACH MONTH. NOW GO EAT SOME MORE SHIT AND BARK AT THE MOON LAUGHIN ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK.
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
Back to your forty ouncer YahOo. Maybe if you collect enough aluminum you can get another.
In your alcohol fogged dreams you aren’t part of the 26 percent of our population that hasn’t figured out how screwed up the chimpster and the Bush Krime Family have made our country.
Green Thumb spews:
YO, when I read your comments, one word comes to mind: elegance. Without fail, every single one of your missives possesses a grace, dignity, and thoughtfulness that stops me in my tracks. The all caps format displays a larger-than-life sense of vision and purpose. When I finish reading I always feel a renewed sense of hope that America’s problems are solvable because people like you are possess such strong moral imagination.
You are truly blessed.
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
Irony Alert!
CAPS LOCK STUCK spews:
OH YO I UNDERSTAND (WINK, WINK) LIKE SUURE BUT THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY AND ALL. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. TOO BAD DUBYA’S HELLBENT ON THAT GUEST WORKER PROGRAM AND LETTIN THE “TOWELHEADS” TAKE OVER OUR PORTS. MAYBE YOU CAN RECRUIT THE MINNOW TO RUN IN 2008…
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
I must point out for YO’s (that is Trailer Park Yahoo) benefit, that I AM ISSUING AN IRONY ALERT. NOT AN iRONS ALERT. No one here is beating their mother (I hope). . .
Green Thumb spews:
Ahem. Narcissists do not recognize irony. They will take words at face value unless otherwise specified. The cow is now out of the barn, roaming the hits, giving madness to all who hear its mooooooooooo. But feel not sorry for the victims, for their bad karma led them to this sordid fate.
CAPS LOCK STUCK spews:
TFF – IRONS IS THE KIND OF CONSERVATIVE THAT WOULD INSPIRE YO TO DOORBELL THE COUNTY FROM END TO END. IRONS WEARS THE PANTS IN HIS HOUSE AND KNOWS HOW TO KEEP THE LITTLE LADIES “IN THEIR PLACE”. IRONS ALSO HAS THE RIGHT STUFF WHEN IT COMES TO DRAWIN’ UP A RESUME. IRONS IS YO’S KIND OF GUY.
Basiclogicdemands spews:
Hey, Mark The Redneck was a case study for this paper
http://www.ntu.edu.sg/nbs/sabr...../09-96.pdf
das spews:
Green Thumb,
Guilty as charged; however, since the issue of Global Warming emerges from a leftist world view, I’ve got to go down to the engine room, take a look and do some leftist diagnostics; also as a former lefty I am fascinated at the way contemporary leftism is washing into sympathy with jihad Islam and a general disdain for America. Cheers…
Green Thumb spews:
Ode to the roaming cow
afloat in a sea of green
chewing the fat of the earth
as the SUVs rush by
on their way
to the Republican gathering
where they decide how to deny the obvious:
that they are no more protected from their doom
than that big-eyed cow
chewing the fat of the earth
as if her days were endless.
das spews:
p.s. YO is pretty nasty and I wouldn’t respond to him – or Goldy shoud just go ahead and delete him. Nobody needs to put up with that crap.
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
Lemme see now. I disdain an America that promotes torture. An America that Denies the basic protections of it’s own founding documents. I disdain a country that destroys innocent families in sovereign countries through illegal warfare. I disdain a country that will send it’s troops into a cou try like Afghanistan, and then render its troops over to Afghani courts. Guess I’M GUILTY AS CHARGED.
Wow, Das, that’s some narcotic Konservative Krime Klown Koolaid your suckin’ on.
das spews:
Problem is Frog America doesn’t do any of that stuff. You look at outsized events and select the details that conjoin with your own mental pathologies.
Tree Frog Farmer spews:
Problem is Frog America doesn’t do any of that stuff. You look at outsized events and select the details that conjoin with your own mental pathologies.
Commentby das— 5/31/06@
Oh yes, stick those fingers into those ears. Poke out those eyes if you see anything that offends you. Don’t even read the mainstream news, do you? De Nile isn’t just a river, as they say.
Tomorrow, when you are straight, re-read that post. Alberto Gonzalez, Rumsfeld, Abu Grhaib, and on and on. “America doesn’t do any of that stuff”
What a Howler. And you bring up the subject of Pathology. Another Howler.
GORDITOS DE LOS ALBERTO spews:
re 52: I spent the year 1998 in Alaska and the people talking climate change were in their early 20’s. It’s not all old man “those were the days” stuff.
GORDITOS DE LOS ALBERTO spews:
Robert Kennedy Jr. has an article coming out in Rolling Stone saying it’s definite for real that the 2004 election was stolen in Ohio. ( “Four Dead in Ohio” ) That state needs some lookin’ into!
GORDITOS DE LOS ALBERTO spews:
You know, a gaggle of American rich guys with a bunch of inherited wealth who wouldn’t know how to use a pay phone if they had to , may not be the best people to entrust the future of the human race to.
Think about it, trolls. Our beef is not with you. You are just a bunch of ignorant tools.
YOSUCKSDICK spews:
It appears that YO mistakes his weekly prison commissary ducket for a federal check. YO you’re just getting your issue so you can buy some snacks at the prison PX. Those aren’t government checks you cum drunk moron. You’re too stupid to have ever done anything worthy of an actual check.
GORDITOS DE LOS ALBERTO spews:
re 123: “former lefty” Riiiiiight! And what did you do as a “former lefty”? Who were your friends ? Are they still your friends? What caused you to become a “former lefty”? Do you smoke weed? If you do , how canyou be a conservative?
What concerts are you going to this summer? What “conservative” musicians will you listen to this summer?
GORDITOS DE LOS ALBERTO spews:
re 123: You better find a way to earn your money.
Puddybud Robert Kennedy Jr. spews:
Ahhh yes, the Prius. Didn’t Toyota recall 320,000 Priuses? I am sure flyover country appreciates this!
Harry Tuttle aka Voter Advocate spews:
“The Prius recall does not involve any of the car’s propulsion system components but a potentially understrength piece of the steering shaft assembly that could loosen or crack.”
“Toyota said no owners in the U.S. had complained about the fault, which was discovered in vehicles sold in Japan.”
LA Times
Toyota recalled nearly a million cars with the defective part. The only model sold in the United States that it was used in was the Prius.
Toyota has carried out voluntary recall programs in the past. “In 2005, Toyota recalled nearly 800,000 American pickup trucks and SUVs with suspension flaws. That followed a 2002 worldwide recall of 400,000 subcompacts with brake-fluid problems.”
Business Week
The strategy of the company seems to be to appear as a protector of its buyers by proactively ferreting out such defects, regardless of cost.
So, what relevance does this have to anything spoken of here? Of course, nothing, it was brought up by that liar, Puddybud. When considered in the context of exploding fuel tanks on Chevrolets or fires caused by cruise control components in Fords, such problems are clearly a common event.
Just noise from the peanut gallery.
GBS spews:
OK, MTR. Good job. You pointed out the potential flaw in the Chi2 model.
Beyond statistical norms, you are also ignoring the other supporting evidence. Like the temperature trends inching upwards over the last 15 years at a faster rate over historical norms. The one thing you didn’t point out, either by design or ignorance, is that combining the last 15 years with the last 100 years will smooth out the statistical averages and remain within historical “norms.”
Here’s a question for you, and no you are NOT the only asking questions, bub.
How many BTU’s does it take to raise a gallon of water one degree Fahrenheit?
GBS spews:
Jack @ 53:
What personal attack are you talking about??
dj spews:
GBS @ 137
I has been fun watching Mark the Thieving Redneck spew his ignorance about statistics. The fact of the matter is that a Chi-square goodness of fit test is a wholly inappropriate statistical test for evaluating whether empirical temperature data fit to models of global warming (or models of no global warming).
He apparently learned the name of the test when he went to college, but never really learned the assumptions required for the test to be valid.
He is an idiot–not because he doesn’t really understand how science works or the limitations of a particular statistical test. No, he is an idiot because he THINKS he knows what he is talking about and he doesn’t.
Gore ignores Dissenters and refuses debate spews:
Accoring to Green Thumb, anyone who disagrees with his pronoucements must be a “stooge for big oil.” So MIT must be yet another policy institute that is made up of stooges for big oil.
http://web.mit.edu/cgcs/www/MIT_CGCS_Rpt12.pdf
Another TJ spews:
#140,
Could you post something published within the last five years please?
Gore ignores Dissenters and refuses debate spews:
http://hotair.com/archives/the.....ient-flop/
Another TJ spews:
“Bryan” does a great job of making himself look clueless about the movie industry and basic mathematics. Do you have any research published in a peer-reviewed journal in the last five years that supports your position?
Gore ignores Dissenters and refuses debate spews:
http://www.unionleader.com/art.....d8749f84fa
Another TJ spews:
The Union Leader is not peer-reviewed. Try again.
Yo spews:
Here’s an inconvenient truth: Al Gore controls several hundred thousand dollars of Occidental Petroleum stock.
Doesn’t quite fit with the squawking over global warming, does it???? (c’mon you guys, you know I’m right)
Yo spews:
das, you need to know that YO is not the same as my handle, which is Yo. YO pretends to be me, like I’m some foul-mouthed goofball who drives by and swears at everyone. so whoever YO is, SHOULD be deleted by Goldy. I would love to see it.
Misty spews:
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