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It IS NOT a real issue. The drug requires a prescription. In cases of rape the doctor can supply the drug the patient herself.
Gregoire and the doctor are being intentionally deceptive here by leaving out that fact.
And at the end the doctor says Rossi is trying to force his views on “the rest of us,” except, of course, that Gregoire is forcing her views on pharmacists.
Just saw this ad after the KING 5 evening news. I like it.
It almost removed the bad taste from my mouth caused by that Rossi casino birds ad, which is apparently endorsing funding our state by allowing thousands of slot machines to be installed as a tax source. State got revenue issues? Encourage gambling! They can stay in Connecticut.
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Actually, you can get it directly from a pharmacist. Prescriptions are only required for those under 17 years of age.
http://www.go2planb.com/plan-b.....index.aspx
Another classic Goldytard moment on HA.
If you cannot win with the truth, just shout louder and run more commercials.
Bless your heart.
This drug should be an over-the-counter med and available in multiple locations. I’m sure there would be lots of places willing to sell it, even if some outlets had moral objections to selling it.
Hell, the “morning-after” pill is a helluva a technological advancement.
michael: OK, but doesn’t change the fact that you can get it directly from a doctor. This woman in the ad even says, “I look into their eyes …” OK, while you are looking into their eyes, you can give them the pill yourself!
Pudge,
On this one I think the pharmacist should give them the damn pill, but I was only posting to correct your error.
Carry on.
What happen to her lack of funding for Stem cell research? She is a hopeless case of failure.
She can’t defend her 4 years of wasting our money and will stoop to anything to change the subject. Why are democrats bent on failure and politicians who care about money in their pockets over the well being of the citizens.
It must be in that $5.00 Starbucks or the $5.00 drinking water you people drink daily.
michael: the question is not whether the pharmacist “should” give a pill, but whether the pharmacist “should” be FORCED to do so.
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Whatever…
I honestly don’t care that much about this one.
For a newspaper whose top front page headline is an Eyman email, I have to suppose the answer is no.
Wonder what the reaction would be if a bunch of pharmacists got tother and decided they wouldn’t Dole (!) out ED pills…
Robert: that just creates a business opportunity for someone else.
Pudge, an attorney who concludes that his client is guilty has a professional obligation to defend that client nonetheless. To do otherwise would be unethical, and could cost that attorney his license.
The same is true of a pharmacist, licensed by the state to dispense medication, not to make moral judgments. A pharmacist has the right not be a pharmacist, just like a lawyer has the right not to practice law.
Just to clear up another thing.
Plan B is a “postcoital contraceptive” it prevents pregnancy (85% effective). Plan B does not terminate a pregnancy; it is not an abortifacient.
What a crock of shit. Digging deep, but it
wont work this time.
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See, this here is the exact problem with how “conservatives” view health care. They see it as a business opportunity, rather than a societal necessity.
Then regarding your idiotic retort about someone being able to “just” go to their doctor to get a dosage. Yeah, make the person have to pay a $25 or $50 co-pay just so they can talk to their doctor and get either a prescription or a dose of the medicine.
Your rationale is frankly moronic.
Goldy @14 has got it right. That is a perfect example of how licensed professionals must operate.
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If those pharmacists have such an issue with being a licensed professional, then they should look for gainful employment in a different field.
hmmmmmm
The democreatins are suing Rossi and making him run as a Republican because the voting public is too stupid to know what GOP means. (and wasting taxpayer money in the process)
Then they put out this ad that panders to stupid people who don’t know that the fucking doctor can dispense the drug herself. Or they can buy it at the drug store over-the-counter (albeit not at EVERY drug store) If in fact the patient was sexually assaulted and was in the ER, there is a fund that will pay for the medication. The victim would not be charged if they are unable to pay.
The ad also fails to mention that Gregoire’s mandate that Pharmacists be required to sell the Plan B pill against their wishes was struck down by the courts in November of 2007. Rossi had nothing to do with that. But why let facts ruin a good political ad?
Goldy @14
Hey the courts have already ruled on this bucko and you’re wrong.
Doctors, Nurses and Pharmacists all have the same rights when it comes to refusing to provide treatments or medications that go against their beliefs. These rights have been reaffirmed by the courts. Chrissy (a lawyer no less) tried to take these basic rights away from the pharmacist.
This ruling will become more of an issue if the death with dignity law passes. It will only strengthen the forementioned rights of the pharmacists.
Goldy:
Pudge, an attorney who concludes that his client is guilty has a professional obligation to defend that client nonetheless. To do otherwise would be unethical, and could cost that attorney his license.
The same is true of a pharmacist …
In fact, if your analogy were remotely apt, then you would be proving MY point, because in most cases, an attorney is perfectly free to reject any client he wishes to.
Don’t be an idiot.
And you and Spineless and the rest who try to claim a pharmacist who doesn’t like it should get a different line of work, well, fine, I am going to pass a law requiring all “bloggers” to be “licensed professionals” that have to adhere to certain arbitrary “standards,” because “blogging” shouldn’t be a business, it should be a public service.
How do you like them apples?
michael @15: not exactly true. Not sure if you’re not clear, or if you’re glossing over the details, but in fact Plan B can prevent implantation of a blastocyst, which is bioloigically a living, growing, unique organism of species homo sapiens.
While most people call an abortion the termination of an embryo or fetus, and the blastocyst is pre-embryonic, for those who believe that life begins at, or shortly after, conception, the distinction is not a difference, because it is still termination of a human life.
Now, Plan B can also prevent ovulation, which obviously will prevent conception at all. But if conception occurs, and Plan B subsequently prevents ovulation, then that is, to most people, morally indistinguishable from an early abortion.
@21 Some sort of “Fairness Doctrine” for bloggers?
And dang it, cops should not be forced to protect citizens they don’t approve of.
Fire fighters should be forced to put out fires at homes that offend their religious convictions.
And the power company shouldn’t be forced to deliver power to individuals who criticize them. It’s their right.
The police are a city agency. Strike that one
The firefighters are a city agency. Strike that one.
The power company is a municipal company, authorized by the city to deliver a service. Strike that one too.
Some Doctors and Pharmacists are sole proprietorship corporations. You know the ones Obama wants to tax because they built their business and are making more than $250,000. I thought they have a right to run their business as they see fit.
Johnny Blue asked: ““Fairness Doctrine” for bloggers?”
Only if the Congressional Donkey implement the Fairness Doctrine for radio.
One thing that hasn’t been said here. While the ad may make a good point, it’s still a really weak ad.
Heck, this issue isn’t even working up the faithful. I agree that a pharmacist should be willing to supply any prescribed medication, but with a Walgreens sprouting up on every corner that doesn’t have a Starbucks, it’s really hard to see a serious problem here.
I really want Governor Gregoire to win, as I think Rossi will do his very best to give Washington the same strong economy currently being enjoyed by California.
But the ads she’s running are really weak, and leave her open to some legitimate attacks from Rossi.
Her “stem cell” ads are probably the worst, as it isn’t a big issue for most folks (too technical) except for the folks that are very strongly against it. Even for the proponents, she hasn’t actually done much along those lines in her four years in office.
(Rossi actually ran a pretty good counter ad, pointing out that she hasn’t funded the research. He’s against it, she says she’s for it but doesn’t actually do anything. Net difference on this issue – Zip, nada, zero.)
She’s actually been a pretty good Governor, and our state’s economy is stronger than most, with a balanced budget and funds in reserve to help with the current national crisis. She should just get that word out.
You are missing the point of the analogy.
Analogy: The use of a similar example or model to explain or extrapolate from
I have said it before. Governor Gregoire is running a really really weak bad campaign.
Blue John:
Some sort of “Fairness Doctrine” for bloggers?
If it’s OK for pharmacists, sure, why not? The logic being used to back forcing pharmacists’ hands, literally, a slippery slope.
The left is trying to say a pharmacy is different from other private operations, because it is related to health care. And health care is important. Ergo, you have no freedom if you are in the health care business.
But why should health care be so special? Nothing in a democracy is more important than preserving democracy, and the single most important feature in a democracy is availability of lots of information and diverse views, so therefore, “blogging” should be regulated. If you don’t like it, don’t “blog.”
Sure, people COULD just go to other web sites, but what if there aren’t any that have the opinions we want? What if they are not running properly at the time? Maybe someone is sick. So every web site should have all opinions featured.
How is this different from what you are saying? And don’t say “because it’s health care,” because that’s an obvious cop-out.
You are missing the point of the analogy.
No. You are misuing the logical device of analogy. When your analogy is different on a critical point, then it is a useless analogy. In this case, because these are organizations run by the government, they have an obligation to provide their service equally to all in the community. A pharmacy, not being run by the government, has no such obligation.
If the best you can come up with is a comparison to a government program, then you are in essence admitting that you have no analogy.
John Barelli:
I really want Governor Gregoire to win, as I think Rossi will do his very best to give Washington the same strong economy currently being enjoyed by California.
Yeah, massive spending and tax increases … oh wait. You think Rossi is going to continue what Gregoire’s already done, and promising more of?