One of my favorite right wing maneuvers involves pleas for “civility” in politics. Once the righties figure out the nastiness isn’t working and they are likely to lose, some of them start insisting that the problem is a lack of civility. It’s all so utterly predictable, it strikes me as funny.
Case in point: Columbian reporter Michael Andersen has an article today about a Clark County businessman named Andrew Deal who has set up a web site urging civility in politics. Nothing wrong with that in and of itself, and never mind the same dude did the same thing four years ago, to not much effect if the truth be known. But Deal makes a claim in today’s article that bears some scrutiny:
“Four years ago, the story was about how 58 percent of the population was worried that we’d end up in court again,” said Deal, who organized a similar event in 2004. “This time, it’s 60 percent of people think that widespread voter fraud is likely.”
And now let’s go to The Google and see what we find regarding that claim about voter fraud. Hmmm. The top hit is from, of all things, Fox Noise on Oct. 22:
Most Americans think there will be extensive voter fraud in the upcoming presidential election. A FOX News poll released Wednesday shows 60 percent think it is either “very” likely, 28 percent, or “somewhat” likely, 32 percent, there will be widespread fraud in voting this year, and 35 percent think it is unlikely.
Yeah, um, okay. Since a lot of the article is about bashing ACORN, it’s pretty hard to take it seriously.
And that, my friends, is how unsubstantiated right wing bullshit gets catapulted out into the wider world, following a direct line from Drudge to Fox Noise and on down.
What’s hilarious, or pathetic actually, is that Deal’s firm, CGI Productions, is listed as being responsible for “web application development” at the bottom of the Clark County Republican Party web page.
That would be the same Clark County Republicans who, in January, felt free to post the infamous “Obama is a Muslim” smear on their web site.
I guess “civility” is all about being nice to Republicans, and letting them hate and lie to their little hearts’ content.
Mr. Cynical spews:
Now here is a Seattle Times Story about “civility”
Developer suggests sex emporium for Olympia
Sounds like this guy has been “jerked around” just about enough. This is what happens when LEFTIST PINHEADED Bureaucrats keep a legit businessman in the permit spin-cycle too long.
These planner-type MARXISTS have filled the Building Dept. offices. They are “educated” to believe all citizens are evil & stupid and only THEY, the enlightened KLOWNS who couldn’t even build a f*cking doghouse, know what is right for Olympia Utopia (aka Berkeley of the North).
Steve spews:
Ranching in Montana is such easy work. It allows Cynical the time to post morning to night, day in, day out, on a Western Washington political blog. The very easy work of ranching in Montana also allows Cynical the time to have lunch at his favorite little cafe in Lacey, which is quite coincidently just a short hop from the BIAW headquarters in Olympia.
ArtFart spews:
1 Hmmm…this may be the first time we’ve seen Cynical come to the defense of a pornographer.
Let’s see…he wants to build a mega-food store (after all, that’s what WinCo does) on top of a wetland in Centralia. Weren’t there a lot of problems down that way a year or so ago when a few megastores built on piles of fill dirt over the flood plain sort of sank like the Titanic?
Would this guy continue running his adult video store right next door? Seems a rather odd juxtaposition. Does he have some land on the other side he’s going to sell to someone to build a church? Maybe a junkyard out back and a rendering works in front.
Yeah….another poor little sleazebag developer who’s throwing a tantrum because he can’t find someone he can afford to buy off to get the rules “adjusted” to fit his liking.
ArtFart spews:
By the by….the stock market posted a modest gain today after the Fed agreed to loan money to banks at one percent. ONE PERCENT…during a time when inflation is running rampant.
Why doesn’t Bernanke just bite the bullet and give the banks the money for free? Or, better yet, hand over the presses and let ’em print their own?
John spews:
@4
Where giving the money away so obama will have none.
Beside the $250,000.00 baseline has been reduced by obama to $200,000.00 Then Obiden reduced it to $150,000.00 by next year the tax increase will be anyone making over $40,000.00.
Just like his promise to take public financing.
This is Change Obama is talking about.
ArtFart spews:
There was an item in one of the daily fishwraps about Washington Federal, one of the most conservative financial institutions in the state, if not the country, having applied for some of Uncle Sam’s $700 billion of largesse. Their CEO admits they don’t desperately need the money, but they figure that without access to the same resources as everyone else, they’ll find it hard to compete.
It seems the last part of BuschCo’s legacy is to turn the banks into “welfare queens”.
Andrew Deal spews:
So what you are saying is that a Republican can’t credibly promote civility? Even one who didn’t vote for Bush the last two elections?
So who can legitimately do so in your world?
Well here is what I have offered privately and will do publicly as well… Any other blog author who is an Obama supporter can also blog on VigilForCivility.com, provided they also support civility.
Wait.. we already have one, my fellow civil advisor… Look for his post there soon.
Thanks for associating me so loosely… you could have just asked.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Why wouldn’t Republicans lie about their “civility”? They lie about everything else.
Roger Rabbit spews:
I’m against civility in politics, because I know it won’t be reciprocated. I’m for the Golden Rule, which says treat others like they treat you. In Republicans’ case, that means kick ’em as hard as you can, and kick ’em again when they’re down to make sure they stay down.*
* Ha ha! I’m only kidding! Another satirical mimickry of wingnut humor.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@5: See #8.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@7 Don’t worry, Andrew, we have the fraud thing under control. We’re unleashing an army of observers and lawyers to prevent the GOP from stealing another election.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@7 (continued) Got a question for you, Andy. Do you think Churchill and FDR should have been more civil to Hitler and Mussolini? Or do you agree there are times when the best solution is to kick ass?
John spews:
@10
I didn’t tell the whole truth, Obama started out say $300,000.00.
So he has dropped $150,000.00 in a few short weeks.
Who telling lies now buck O.
ROTCODDAM spews:
Thank you, Jon.
Damn good catch.
I certainly can’t speak for Jon. But I’d say this, for my own sake:
Nope. Sorry, Mr. Deal. Not any more. At least not until you clean up your own a little better.
You might consider your own business associations for a start. Do you support the lies promoted by the Clark Co. Repugs using your services?
Is it just about the money?
Do you weigh personal and professional ethics when deciding which clients to take on?
I know some unemployed phone bank workers who might be able to teach you a thing or two about “civility”.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@13 Your bullshit ain’t workin’, pal. The electoral vote map, which has been static all this month, is finally moving — in Obama’s direction. None of the spaghetti you righties are flinging has stuck to the wall and Newsweek now says a 400-electoral vote Obama landslide is possible. McCain might even lose his home state.
John spews:
@15
CHANGE THE SUBJECT the game of libs.
I really don’t care about 400-electoral votes my post was about his CHANGE.
Where talking about lies, lies, lies and more lies to get votes.
Have you not seen these numbers? You get all your news @HA you’ll never see this here, only positive BS is generated by Goldy and Company.
Last time the elections was over by 8pm pst if you recall.
Hey, tell obama he better hold off on the new carpet.