[HA Bible Study is on hiatus through the November election as we honor Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney by studying the scriptures of his Mormon religion.]
Book of Mormon, Mosiah 11:6
Yea, and thus they were supported in their laziness, and in their idolatry, and in their whoredoms, by the taxes which king Noah had put upon his people; thus did the people labor exceedingly to support iniquity.
Discuss.
Whoredoms?
Like that of our first Mormon nominee’s fundrasier, Mark Leder?
While you folks fret over faux history … France’s Republicans want to enforce a dress code that would prohibit the pretty costumes the Cardinal gets to wear!
Actually they want to prohibit all religious clothing. The next step will banning the white shirt and tie Mormon missionaries wear!
Happy New Year!
This reminds me of Cap’n Crunch yesterday, whining about government subsidies for solar power, both small and large scale.
I read the LA Times story to which he linked, and I thought to myself, I’d be happy to pay ‘higher’ electric rates if they went to a system that didn’t rely on fracking or tar sands or MidEast wars – things that are inherently destructive and all represent massive and unaccounted shifts in costs that are not reflected in the rates paid for the commodity.
Similarly, and germane to this passage, particularly…
I’d be happy to pay higher taxes, if those $$$$ didn’t go to subsidize things that are hurting me, or my fellow ordinary citizens, or the planet – things like subsidies to entrenched dirty energy companies, or the bloated military that is necessary to support them, or the nearly free use of our public lands, including the externalized costs of environmental destruction, or support for the massive agribusiness industry and the corn-based food system that is killing us.
That first sentence of the last paragraph should read:
My tax bracket should be higher in any case, and the money should be spent better – infrastructure, education, research, financial regulation, publicly funded elections, etc – you know, an educated leftist paradise.
Lib Sci
You might want to look here to see what China is doing to deal with profiteering religions.
Seems like HA does not want to hear from Me today!
Odd view of Noah here
Even odder is how the Prophet Goldy is failing to tell his followers that Yom Kippur happens AT THE SAME time as this week’s Drinking Liberally! Is the Prophet afraid to acknowledge his sins and make restitution?
Hmmm ..
this is the message from Me that keeps getting censored:
I find it even more odd that the Prophet Goldy chose NOT to mention that this Tuesday night, while he quaffs beer at Drinking Liberally, Jews will gather to recite Nevui .. the prayer TESHUVAH, a commitment not to atone for our failings and bad acts but to do good deeds, but to make restitution … Teshuvah.
Will the Prophet repent or is he, as the Christians claim for their Jesus, without sin?
I’m not gonna vote for Romney or Obama. So, I think it would be great if Romney were to suddenly convert to Islam, and we’ll get to see if His Higness, Goldy, has the courage to criticize Islam here on Sunday HA.
Goldy won’t utter a peep to criticize Islam because he knows some Islamic crazy will slit his throat.
It may be more apt to call it the Book of Boredom.
In Kevin Phillip’s book, Bad Money on page 94 he reveals that Salt Lake City is the smallest city to have its own local branch of the federal Securities and Exchange Commission as financial corruption is so rampant. The Ogden Standard-Examiner reported that “the cultural emphasis in the Mormon Church that equates financial success with spiritual success, and an unquestioning allegiance to authority figures, may partly explain why 10,000 Utah investors have been swindled out of more than $200 million during the last decade.”
Why don’t you go start your own blog with a weekly discussion of passages from the Quran, tough guy?
Oh, I know why…no one would read it.
@9
I find the equation of monetary success with God’s ‘approval’ or spiritual success deeply disturbing, and I think is quite dangerous for those that practice such ‘spirituality’.
In a discussion of the virulent and vile Idaho billionaire Frank L. VanderSloot, I saw the term ‘MLM”, which normally designates ‘multilevel marketing’ (a la Amway), as ‘mormons losing money’.
Apparently such schemes are common among that community, and that seems to indicate that when material greed is made a sacrament, then there will be plenty of crooks to fleece the sheep.
So far no one here, for that matter elsewhere, seems to have noticed that Mitt Romney has performed a miracle. His IRA now earns about $10 million a year Tax-Free.
It seems likely that he has been able to perform this Miracle for at least 10 years. In other words, this Mormon bishop has fulfilled the claims of Harry Reid as well as performing the kind of miraculous event that would, if only Mitt were a Catholic, entitle him to sainthood.
Hey Steve, What say you about these useless HA libtards commenting on the Book of Mormon?
Why is it any different then their commenting on your “book of Revelations.” To an outside observer, these are very similar things.
@14
Perhaps after the election we could have an examination, and discussion, of the beliefs of Young Earth Creationists (YECs)?
Sure,
But I think ceastionisms .. whether this means the belief in Vishnu, Raven, Jesus or any other vague creator who “made us” is less harmful then the willingness of Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, .. the rest of Christo-abrahamists to convey divine authority to the weird musings of their Bibles.
@16
But it’s from their Bibles that the YECers get their 6000 year universal timeline, so I think we’re talking about the same thing.
bigotry is OK, as long as your are progressive.
@18, Expressing doubt about the snake oil salesman’s oil is bigotry?
@8 Um… how exactly is quoting scripture without comment criticizing a religion?
@16 … sure, but don’t you find creation myths charming and harmless? How does any myth about the origin of the universe imply anything important about how we should all behave?
Why would a creator care about gay marriage, eating pork, porking a married lady, or destroying six million Jews?
All this creation myth stuff is important for is when some strange person, presumably including a number of schizophrenics, claims that believing in one creation myth or another is necessary for “salvation.” For Jesus, Paul, Mohammed, Mary Baker Eddy, Joseph Smith, Rev. Moon, and of course the Popes … creation stuff is merely an nidus, a tenuous tether used to build an elaborate structure of moral and immoral law.
As a Jew, even the latter seems to me to be pretty harmless. Judaism does have an awful lot of “laws”… We call these mitzvot. Our mitzvot, however are ours. We don’t kill other people or conquering them for the purpose of making them agree that our God is the God.
In fact, at least to me, Islam and Christianity seem unique amongst the world’s religions. Paul seems to bequeathed these religions with a psychotic need to convert other people. Worse, Islam and Christianity go beyond requiring a belief in some specific creator, they bring with them a whole lot of other stuff about heaven, the end of times, etc. etc.
The irony I see for people like Puddy, is the need to deny the divine wisdom of the papacy while accepting a whole lot of stuff the Roman empire dumped into the Christians “Holy Bible.” At least the Muslims claim that their profit talk to an angel. I have never figured out why anybody cares what Emperor Constantine told the bishops of the Council of Nicaea.
Politically Incorrect,
“Goldy won’t utter a peep to criticize Islam because he knows some Islamic crazy will slit his throat.”
Yeah…like you know what the fuck you’re talking about.
Has anyone mentioned to you today that you’re an imbecile?