Leviticus 19:34
The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.
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“I want this job, but my Faith prevents me from doing the work.”
God is my co-pilot.
I tell you what, I’m going to apply for the job as the next General Manager of Defense systems at the Lazy B and then object to being required to supervise the building of cruise missiles. Then I’m going to remove the steering wheel from my Jeep.
Fuck That! Leviticus be saying what? This shit ain’t right. Leviticus ain’t suggesting that homosexuals be tolerated, is he? This shit ain’t right.
@1 what a bunch of fucking loons. Boy are they really looking to fuck up society as we know it. Next the Apeman will say he is supposed to get watermelons instead of Bananas because it is his religious freedom.
When speaking of ‘The foreigner residing among you’ does this mean folks like She1ey Bachman and Darrell teh car thief arsonist Issa?
It means the kids who are being sent here by their parents under the belief that the US will take care of those kids.
Should the Palestinians treat the (relatively) newly-arrived Israelis as brothers and sisters?
Should the Israelis, as descendents of the Jews who ruled that land thousands of years ago, treat the Palestinian Arabs as newly-arrived family?
Does today’s Bible-study admonition from the Jews’ holy book put a greater burden on them?
What happened to the Golden Rule?
@ 6
It has long since been replaced by the Rule of Gold.
If Obama is thinking of world opinion of the U.S. and not what the dumbest and the meanest amongst us (Republicans) think, then he will accept these Honduran and Guatemalan children as the endangered political refugees that they are. As I recall, Vietnamese children were given this kind of asylum under similar circumstances.
As for conservative Christians actually obeying the bible that they claim as their guide; well, I guess we all know about how that works by now, so why not just ignore the dumb b##!!rds and do the right thing.
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Lib Scientist
At least get your facts straight.
As a people, Palestinians are very recent .. 1976.
When the Zionist movement began in the 1800s, the Jews were devoted to living WITH their Arab cousins.
All it would take to make peace now is a unilateral decision by the Palestinians to live alongside the Jews.
@10
Wow, Professor Schwartz….insightful. Thank you for that.
All we need for peace is for the ghetto-trapped Palestinians, surrounded by walls, lands stolen, olive trees uprooted, homes bulldozed, no jobs, insufficient water…..and they just need to stop causing trouble.
Who knew?
Yes, Palestinians didn’t exist before 1976. Uh-huh.
Reminds me of…”A landless people for a people-less land”
Occupation/Imperialism/Apartheid is much easier if you can convince yourself, and the world, that the folks in the ghetto aren’t quite human.
Steve Schwartz sez…”When the Zionist movement began in the 1800s, the Jews were devoted to living WITH their Arab cousins.”
An easy position to espouse when you are vastly outnumbered.
Not so much now.
http://visualizingpalestine.or.....-Palestine
@1 A trial lawyer’s dream: God runs over motorcyclist, lawyer gets to sue most deep-pocketed defendant in universe.
@ SJ
You know that Golda Meir, Moshe Dyan, Ze’ev Jabotinsky, Moshe Sharett and Manachem Begin were setting off car bombs in London, Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and assassinating Palestinian political leaders all through the 1920s and 30s, right?
They were terrorists before they were politicians. There is a lot of blood on the Zionists hands.
Now they’re bombing hospitals and schools, all on the excuse that three teenagers were murdered and their bodies dumped in a Palestinian ghetto. For all anyone knows, they were killed by drug dealers or something or even Israeli soldiers for seeing something illegal. Nobody seems to know who might have actually killed these kids, or even care to do a rudimentary investigation into the actual circumstances of their deaths. They do not care, as long as it gives them an excuse to start butchering Moslem babies.
@15
My understanding of the murder of the Israeli kids is it was just that – a crime.
I also understand that the Israeli authorities have three suspects in jail now.
Here’s a story from the Jewish Daily Forward that has some details about how the Netanyahu government kept up the fiction that they were looking for those children, and pretended that they were alive, when they knew they were dead – whipping up hysteria in the process.
Also, the perps are members of what is essentially a crime family loosely associated with Hamas, not carrying out Hamas orders.
http://forward.com/articles/20.....war/?p=all
There are some problems with the editorial posture of the story…like the line “Jews everywhere were in anguish over the unceasing threat of barbaric Arab terror plaguing Israel,” …but in general is a pretty good piece.
@ 14 RR
It would amuse me to no end, to see the Almighty settle out of court by dropping a million ton block of Gold in the guy’s front yard.
SJ do I have my facts wrong?
Here are some quotes from Moshe Sharett, first Foreign Minister of Israel and later Prime Minister….
Found here: http://www.brainyquote.com/quo.....arett.html
“We have forgotten that we have not come to an empty land to inherit it, but we have come to conquer a country from people inhabiting it, that governs it by the virtue of its language and savage culture.”
“As for the future, we are equally determined to explore all possibilities of getting rid, once and for all, of the huge Arab minority which originally threatened us.”
“Fear is the main factor in Arab politics… There is no Arab who is not harmed by Jews’ entry into Palestine.”
“Arabs respect only the language of force.”
“By the reduction of the Arabs on the one hand and Jewish immigration in the transition period on the other, we will ensure an absolute Hebrew majority in a parliamentary regime.”
“As for the long-term future: I am prepared to see in this a vision, not a mystical way but in a realistic way, of a population exchange on a much more important scale and including larger territories.”
“I saw clearly how those who saved the state so heroically and courageously in the War of Independence would be capable of bringing a catastrophe upon it if they are given the chance in normal times.”
Nahum Goldmann, founder of World Jewish Congress….
“One day, or rather night, in 1956 I sat up at his [Ben-Gurion’s] house till three in the morning. That night, a beautiful summer night, we had a forthright discussion on the Arab problem. “I don’t understand your optimism,” Ben-Gurion declared. “Why should the Arabs make peace? If I were an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it’s true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that? They may perhaps forget in one or two generations’ time, but for the moment there is no chance. So it’s simple: we have to stay strong and maintain a powerful army. Our whole policy is there.”
Sources:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/David_Ben-Gurion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahum_Goldmann
Did I misquote him, SJ?
The hatred of Jews demonstrated on this thread and just about every other comment thread in America is horrifying. The existence of Israel as a state has simply given that hatred a veneer of rationality. It wouldn’t matter what Israel would do or wouldn’t do; it would still be the pariah nation just because it dares to exist.
@20
Hatred of Jews? Who said anything about Jews? I’ve been talking about the actions of a US client state that spends billions of our tax dollars every year doing things I find abominable.
Wait for it…..criticism of Israeli apartheid carried out with my tax dollars…..ANTISEMITISM!!!!
Criticism of the right-wing extremists presently running Israel…..ANTISEMITISM!!!!!
Criticism of the profoundly asymmetric “war” presently underway, a central feature of which is the relentless destruction of Palestinian civilian homes, hospitals, schools, infrastructure by the Israelis…..ANTISEMITISM!!!!
Criticism of the systematic ghettoization and dehumanization of millions of Palestinians by the Israeli security apparatus and the walls and laws that strangle any hope of peaceful economic development….ANTISEMITISM!!!!!!
I was raised on the story of the heroic, plucky Israelis making the empty desert bloom, and fending off the evil, jealous, murderous Arabs….I’m done with that mythology and the self-censorship that is the real failure in American discourse, especially in the face of Israel’s turn to the right, the manifest racism and imperialism, the apartheid, the systematic imprisonment of millions of Palestinians made possible with my tax dollars.
Enough.
So….call me all the names you want, Sally…I’ll wait for some refutation with facts, or for SJ’s further ‘schooling’.
And ‘haganah”.. I was looking forward to some “hasbara” from him.
14
That’s why we should have a loser-pay civil tort system.
As far as the Isreli-Palestinian conflict goes, we should have been totally neutral from the beginning. It’s not our fight, and those involved should resolve their issues themselves.
….still waiting for Steve Schwartz to help me with my facts….