Leviticus 19:19
Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.
Somewhere in the Middle East or maybe in Rome during the decline, some petty local King decided that he didn’t like certain things and had the wherewithal to have his goons enforce them for a time. Somehow this edict survived into the modern age in the Wholly Babble and certain cretinous demographics buy into it as being “The Word Of The Lord” even though this little local kingdom faded out into history probably around 2000 or 3000 years ago and probably didn’t amount to much during the time of its actual existence. That, or this is some old misinterpreted rule leftover from the Roman empire, mistranslated, misrepresented, and misguided from the beginning anyway.
This crap sounds like it came out of some obsessive-compulsive lunatics ideas of “order”. Someone like Caligula perhaps or one of the later ones like Constantine. I would think that, as most of what is now known as the “New Testament” was written during the Theodosian dynasty of Rome these rules could have come out of that period.
Nobody really remembers who it was that first said this, nobody remembers what the original rationales were, and nobody even really cares. It’s just another excuse for the religionists to justify killing people, burning their homes and crops, salting their fields, and stealing their shit all in the name of some esoteric and undefined “god”. It’s just another excuse for them to ignore their own rules whenever they feel like it.
Anything to rationalize the next pogrom. All this is just another rule for that.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
All it says is don’t marry a Republican. That makes perfect sense to me.
Republicans don’t need to “mingle” to create an abomination; they’re abominable all by themselves.
4,
really very, very impressive that Trump’s supporters all instantly recognize and understand the translated words of our Great Beloved Fuhrer. Promising. Very promising, indeed.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@4 It shows that you can get a crowd to applaud literally anything. Hitler’s rallies were proof of that. So are Trump’s rallies.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
American conservatives didn’t care very much when the KKK whipped, maimed, castrated, shot, stabbed, strangled, and burned other human beings. For some strange reason, they have a problem with this only when Muslim extremists do it.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
The fact the rich have gotten vastly richer tends to suggest that taxing the rich hasn’t exactly wiped out capitalism.
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Mark Adamsspews:
@2 You need to work on your historical time line. These books do not come out of Rome, and Rome would have swept all his away except that would have gone against the grain on what made Rome so successful. The Roman’s were pragmatic and amazingly cosmopolitan. The Bible is older than Rome and is from a competing civilization and thought. The fact Christianity managed to become the empires top dog religiously is really miraculous an amazing take of the minor cult managing to get in charge, through an Emperor’s temporary political and social needs. Good to be the Emperor’s pet religion. And it was clearly good to be the Emperor. And no one had better call the Emperors wife a slut or whore even if it was true.
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Mark Adamsspews:
So today’s verse reveals a law that God (some human) gave the people under the law giver Moses. Not a particularly rational law, but our own legislature here in Washington State has managed to do a few less than rational laws. Does this one statute mean the other statutes are bad as well. Does it make
33: And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34: But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shall love him as thyself: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I’m the Lord your God.
These two statutes from the Lord are not likely to draw any criticism from modern readers, but they are actually just as illogical as the passage Goldie has listed, and both go against the grain of many cultures dealing with strangers in the region.
Or why should a people who were enslaved have a need of such a passage as:
20: And whosoever lieth carnally with a woman, that is a bondsmaid, betrothed to an husband, and not at all redeemed, nor freedom given her; she shall be scourged; they shall not be put to death, because she was not free.
Why would such a people have slaves at all? Unless the truth was they were a people that held slaves and were part of the slave trade of the region that Egypt did not participate in greatly during the reign of Pharoah Ramses.
Since none of this was written down, and was in the spoken word for generations, and only put into writing much later and only is those parts the nobility chose to put into writing from the spoken word. And the time much of what was written that became the Torah was when Israel was under the foot of Babylon, and forces in Babylon would want Israel to be a peaceful province just perhaps the political motivations of that current political situation called for a story of escape from slavery, with a nod to the Babylonian king being in charge. Or a nod to the King that set the Israelites free and may have been given a hand in writing a few of the books. A little or a lot of political spin, that could be all this keeping cows of a kind together, no beets in the wheat field, and no linin with cotton. Why because this would keep peasants busy and insured that the King of Babylon would get more cotton. The poor can wear linen.
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Mark Adamsspews:
@3 Republicans clearly need love too, perhaps they need even more love than the average human. All that RR is saying here is don’t marry them just have carnal relations with them and world will be a better place. Free love means it’s ok to screw or fuck a Republican. Or Democrats. We independents can go both ways, heck we can even try Commies or libertarians.
Remember hug a democrat, fuck a republican. Love makes the world go round.
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Mark Adamsspews:
@5 As General Patton said not enough of us spoke up when something could have been done, and now we have to go fight this war after the skunks have gotten under the house.
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Allahspews:
Don’t mingle wool or linen? I suppose Leviticus wouldn’t care much for any polyester blends either.
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Mark Adamsspews:
@13 Of course not, but they had no brilliant chemist to turn the oil that was lighting burning buses into polyester, or any other product from organic chemicals.
Such would require the scientific method that has more basis in the civilizations of Greece and Rome than the backward Christians and your folks. All who thought it was waste though a few resourceful souls used oil for lighting. Over 1400 years with all kinds of oil yet your people could never manage to invade Rome, and they had the answer under their feet the whole time. Only innovation is bad, That means not surrendering to you oh Allah.
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Mark Adamsspews:
@7 Of course at the only time in American history the KKK could have been considered a political force the Southern conservative Democrats were the KKK, and the northern Republicans who were conservative were victims and considered the enemy by those southern conservatives.
When it comes to foreign cultures there is not much to suggest American’s in general care much at all. After all as Mark Twain pointed out we like to make war on brown people, take their land, and indulge in an imperialism that should shake any true Americans soul. Guess we like money.
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Mark Adamsspews:
@8 Which does not explain the Democratic parties unwillingness to impose such taxes, or is it now the corporate Democatic party? Republican lite in every way.
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Allahspews:
A funny thing happed to Islam and mathematics and science around the 12th Century. A very powerful Islamic holy man decided that mathematics was the work of the Devil, so Islam pretty much gave up on being the world leaders in science and math. My boy Muhammad didn’t leave good instructions about how Muslims were supposed to proceed with math and science, so this influential Muslim cleric sent the Islamic world back quite a bit. Algebra is really “Al Gebra” in the Is.amic world, and it as an important development in math. The Greeks had geometry and trigonometry, fair enough, and the Romans surely took advantage of the stuff the Greeks came up with, but algebra was also a tremendous benefit, helping to lead to calculus and other advancements.
It is too bad that an Islamic cleric had such a braindead idea that mathematics was the work of the Devil. It set Islam back a thousand years.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@16 “the Southern conservative Democrats were the KKK”
And then along came Tricky Dick with his cynical Southern Strategy, and the GOP owns ’em now.
The Wisdom of PissCan spews:
Ye shall go fuck yeeeeeeeeself. Suck thee.
DeathFrogg spews:
Somewhere in the Middle East or maybe in Rome during the decline, some petty local King decided that he didn’t like certain things and had the wherewithal to have his goons enforce them for a time. Somehow this edict survived into the modern age in the Wholly Babble and certain cretinous demographics buy into it as being “The Word Of The Lord” even though this little local kingdom faded out into history probably around 2000 or 3000 years ago and probably didn’t amount to much during the time of its actual existence. That, or this is some old misinterpreted rule leftover from the Roman empire, mistranslated, misrepresented, and misguided from the beginning anyway.
This crap sounds like it came out of some obsessive-compulsive lunatics ideas of “order”. Someone like Caligula perhaps or one of the later ones like Constantine. I would think that, as most of what is now known as the “New Testament” was written during the Theodosian dynasty of Rome these rules could have come out of that period.
Nobody really remembers who it was that first said this, nobody remembers what the original rationales were, and nobody even really cares. It’s just another excuse for the religionists to justify killing people, burning their homes and crops, salting their fields, and stealing their shit all in the name of some esoteric and undefined “god”. It’s just another excuse for them to ignore their own rules whenever they feel like it.
Anything to rationalize the next pogrom. All this is just another rule for that.
Roger Rabbit spews:
All it says is don’t marry a Republican. That makes perfect sense to me.
Republicans don’t need to “mingle” to create an abomination; they’re abominable all by themselves.
You gotta laugh - and I do spews:
First goats, now sheep. Can you give me a rousing BAAAAAH?
Dr. Goebbels spews:
4,
really very, very impressive that Trump’s supporters all instantly recognize and understand the translated words of our Great Beloved Fuhrer. Promising. Very promising, indeed.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@4 It shows that you can get a crowd to applaud literally anything. Hitler’s rallies were proof of that. So are Trump’s rallies.
Roger Rabbit spews:
American conservatives didn’t care very much when the KKK whipped, maimed, castrated, shot, stabbed, strangled, and burned other human beings. For some strange reason, they have a problem with this only when Muslim extremists do it.
Roger Rabbit spews:
The fact the rich have gotten vastly richer tends to suggest that taxing the rich hasn’t exactly wiped out capitalism.
Mark Adams spews:
@2 You need to work on your historical time line. These books do not come out of Rome, and Rome would have swept all his away except that would have gone against the grain on what made Rome so successful. The Roman’s were pragmatic and amazingly cosmopolitan. The Bible is older than Rome and is from a competing civilization and thought. The fact Christianity managed to become the empires top dog religiously is really miraculous an amazing take of the minor cult managing to get in charge, through an Emperor’s temporary political and social needs. Good to be the Emperor’s pet religion. And it was clearly good to be the Emperor. And no one had better call the Emperors wife a slut or whore even if it was true.
Mark Adams spews:
So today’s verse reveals a law that God (some human) gave the people under the law giver Moses. Not a particularly rational law, but our own legislature here in Washington State has managed to do a few less than rational laws. Does this one statute mean the other statutes are bad as well. Does it make
33: And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34: But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shall love him as thyself: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I’m the Lord your God.
These two statutes from the Lord are not likely to draw any criticism from modern readers, but they are actually just as illogical as the passage Goldie has listed, and both go against the grain of many cultures dealing with strangers in the region.
Or why should a people who were enslaved have a need of such a passage as:
20: And whosoever lieth carnally with a woman, that is a bondsmaid, betrothed to an husband, and not at all redeemed, nor freedom given her; she shall be scourged; they shall not be put to death, because she was not free.
Why would such a people have slaves at all? Unless the truth was they were a people that held slaves and were part of the slave trade of the region that Egypt did not participate in greatly during the reign of Pharoah Ramses.
Since none of this was written down, and was in the spoken word for generations, and only put into writing much later and only is those parts the nobility chose to put into writing from the spoken word. And the time much of what was written that became the Torah was when Israel was under the foot of Babylon, and forces in Babylon would want Israel to be a peaceful province just perhaps the political motivations of that current political situation called for a story of escape from slavery, with a nod to the Babylonian king being in charge. Or a nod to the King that set the Israelites free and may have been given a hand in writing a few of the books. A little or a lot of political spin, that could be all this keeping cows of a kind together, no beets in the wheat field, and no linin with cotton. Why because this would keep peasants busy and insured that the King of Babylon would get more cotton. The poor can wear linen.
Mark Adams spews:
@3 Republicans clearly need love too, perhaps they need even more love than the average human. All that RR is saying here is don’t marry them just have carnal relations with them and world will be a better place. Free love means it’s ok to screw or fuck a Republican. Or Democrats. We independents can go both ways, heck we can even try Commies or libertarians.
Remember hug a democrat, fuck a republican. Love makes the world go round.
Mark Adams spews:
@5 As General Patton said not enough of us spoke up when something could have been done, and now we have to go fight this war after the skunks have gotten under the house.
Allah spews:
Don’t mingle wool or linen? I suppose Leviticus wouldn’t care much for any polyester blends either.
Mark Adams spews:
@13 Of course not, but they had no brilliant chemist to turn the oil that was lighting burning buses into polyester, or any other product from organic chemicals.
Such would require the scientific method that has more basis in the civilizations of Greece and Rome than the backward Christians and your folks. All who thought it was waste though a few resourceful souls used oil for lighting. Over 1400 years with all kinds of oil yet your people could never manage to invade Rome, and they had the answer under their feet the whole time. Only innovation is bad, That means not surrendering to you oh Allah.
Mark Adams spews:
@7 Of course at the only time in American history the KKK could have been considered a political force the Southern conservative Democrats were the KKK, and the northern Republicans who were conservative were victims and considered the enemy by those southern conservatives.
When it comes to foreign cultures there is not much to suggest American’s in general care much at all. After all as Mark Twain pointed out we like to make war on brown people, take their land, and indulge in an imperialism that should shake any true Americans soul. Guess we like money.
Mark Adams spews:
@8 Which does not explain the Democratic parties unwillingness to impose such taxes, or is it now the corporate Democatic party? Republican lite in every way.
Allah spews:
A funny thing happed to Islam and mathematics and science around the 12th Century. A very powerful Islamic holy man decided that mathematics was the work of the Devil, so Islam pretty much gave up on being the world leaders in science and math. My boy Muhammad didn’t leave good instructions about how Muslims were supposed to proceed with math and science, so this influential Muslim cleric sent the Islamic world back quite a bit. Algebra is really “Al Gebra” in the Is.amic world, and it as an important development in math. The Greeks had geometry and trigonometry, fair enough, and the Romans surely took advantage of the stuff the Greeks came up with, but algebra was also a tremendous benefit, helping to lead to calculus and other advancements.
It is too bad that an Islamic cleric had such a braindead idea that mathematics was the work of the Devil. It set Islam back a thousand years.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@16 “the Southern conservative Democrats were the KKK”
And then along came Tricky Dick with his cynical Southern Strategy, and the GOP owns ’em now.