Exodus 25:15
Don’t ever remove the poles from the rings.
Discuss.
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Doesn’t make much sense to me. Were they talking about a camping trip?
And do it was that the prophet Jobs revealed that mice have but one ear.
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I think this Bible Study deal has run its course… think you guys have to create some real content on Sundays.
@3,
Sounds like a good time to start criticizing other religions. I mentioned that to Goldy just last week. Why not go after the texts of other religions?
@1 It has to do with instructions for making an ark to carry the Word of God around in. There are two gold rings on each side, and you’re supposed to insert two wood handles into the rings, and not take them out. There’s a lot of micromanagement going on in Exodus 25 — Yaweh really bossed people around in those days. Working in a temple was like working in a fast food joint run by a hyperactive guy.
@4: Irony alert. Irony alert. All hands on deck!
@5 Nonsense. In my translation, the context is the need for people from Warsaw to work in the circus.
This passage refers to the ark of the covenant. The poles (covered with gold) were inserted into rings on the ark and used to bear the ark.
Pretty much everything on and anywhere near the ark was either made of gold or covered with gold as demanded by “God” in excruciating detail in Ex 25.
I imagine leaving the rings in the poles made for a quick getaway since the jews were on the lam at the time.
Karmically (leaving aside the fact that xtrians and muslims forbid interest (usury), ergo jews have fulfilled the role of bankers in society since ancient times), the jews basically brought the “jews are obsessed with gold” stereotype on themselves.
@8 “I imagine leaving the rings in the poles made for a quick getaway since the jews were on the lam at the time.”
I thought it was to keep people from stealing the gold-encrusted poles.
So, God was a gold digging, micromanaging, bitch. Sounds like grounds for a divorce.
Fishing Poles??
Positive thoughts
“Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.” (Hebrews 11:1)
“A merry heart does good, like medicine, but a broken spirit dries the bones.” (Proverbs 17:22)
“The mind is everything. What you think is what you become.”
Hindu Prince Gautama Siddharta, the founder of Buddhism, 563-483 B.C.
Happy Sunday :)
@12 Now you see what I live with down in this hole.
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It seems to me that we .. you know Goldy, I and other Yidden really ought to find some other people for you to stick with as the source of your religion.
I suggest the Vedas .. they are as old (or almost as old) as the Torah amd the stories are a lot more fun …esp because we are not in them!
Imagine, then you can tell the HIndues how they were wrong about THEIR religion!
Sighhhhh …
Let me try to fix a few of the untruths here:
1. Zotz .. not sure which “ancient times” you mean, but somehow I have trouble imagining the peasants of shtetl having much gold. Maybe that is why your ancestors kep having pogroms … because the goiyrem could not find the gold?
2. Mrs Rabbit.. Guatama was several things but not a prince. His Dad was a local magistrate .. sorta kinda like Mike McGinn.
3. Mr. Rabbit … if you must spell out the name of the Deity, at least use the actual letters .. YHOOH is closer that the letter you chose .. as in Yahoo!!!
re 14:
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We have our own ideas, just like you.
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Problem? No.
Trying to be upbeat and positive among all the bashing :)
14. Enlighten us. To whom were you addressing that you take it upon yourselves (Goldy and yourself) to find some other people for ? to stick with as the source of their religion?
15. Wasn’t Gautama from the Shakya dynasty given the title prince and considered the elite of the Warrior caste?
Please enlighten.
16. Dorky
Not sure what point you are trying to make.
The connection of Sanskrit to to European lnaguages, however, is pretty far back ,,, I suspect that rather than European languages having Snaskrit roots, both have older, common roots.
In contrast the European claim to have a root amongst us semites is nonsense .,.. in a way as silly as the Mormoan cliam that the Indians were semites.
Worse, the Europeans have taken Jewish history and law as their own and then derided it with the claim that the Jewish law was replaced nby their God.
To quote the language used here so often, “that sucks.”
Actually, in the part of India where Siddarth grew up, the caste system was somewhat weak. This may account for the fact that Buddhism itself was not tainted with castism the way Hinduism is.
His father was some sort of minor … likley hereditary … ruler of a town. Calling Siddartha a price is a bit of exageration … sort of like referring to the some of some local scottish laird as a prince.
BTW, I encourage everyone to read ghuis sutras, they are very beautiful.
14. The Torah for example, is probably the best source of all on life lessons.
2. The Bhaghad Gita offers an emphasis on selfless service which was inspirational to Mahatma Gandhi.
3. The Bible Psalms, Proverbs and the New Testament offers encouragement, strength and hope.
Shalom,śāntiḥ, Peace
Stew @21:
Life lessons in the Torah?!?
Like what? Do tell.
You would have to be extremely selective to find much in the way of useful advice. And ignore some pretty brutal forms of mass murder and genocide.
Don’t take my word for it, just ask the Amalekites.
There are no “life lessons” in the Torah, only a rather tedious account of the petty squabbles of an iron age tribe in useless and barren desert. If it wasn’t for the accidental popularity of one of their lesser apocalyptic prophets about two thousand years ago, no one would have ever heard of the “jews”.
Put the Torah up there on the shelf with Stephen King in the horror fiction section.
Also Stew @21:
And once again, you would have to be very selective to find much “encouragement, strength and hope” in psalms, proverbs, and New Testament”. Those sections of the Bible offer some pretty grim news for our fellow travellers in this vale of tears. Particularly the New Testament.
I suspect you are one of those folks who really hasn’t spent much time actually reading the Bible, but rather get your “Bible” from the quotes found in little frames at gift shops.
@22 Wotz
“If it wasn’t for the accidental popularity of one of their lesser apocalyptic prophets about two thousand years ago, no one would have ever heard of the “jews”.”
How is THAT for Christian arrogance?
Lets try some variations!
“If it wasn’t for a business started in Mecca about 1400 years ago, no one would have ever heard of the “muslims”.”
“If it wasn’t for en epidemic of small poxe, about 600 years ago, no one would have ever heard of the “American democracy.”
“If it wasn’t for a mythical poet named Homer Simpson ago, no one would have ever heard of the “greeks”.
“If it wasn’t for the pyramids, no one would remember the Ehyptians.”
Oh, and by the way, whoever and wahtever Jesus may have been, since when has he been cliamed as a Jewish prophet bgy anyone other than the Muslims?
Wotz
As for your aspersins oin the Torah, much the same can be said of the Iliad, Shakespeare, China and Indian heritages, etc etc.
I get fucking tired of goyem who misuse the torah and then want to dump it in in their own cultural cess pool.
The Torah is OUR history. Hopefully, we learn from OUR history and you are as welcome to learn fromn the Torah as you are to learn from Greek, Toltec, Inca, Chinese, and Hindu history.
So tell me bubbelah, do you think there are no lessons in the stories of Joseph, Devorah, and Moses? Fine, go read Ayn Rand.
Looks like I hit a nerve there SJ.
“Christian Arrogance”? Perhaps, but I’m not much of a Christian. I sort of understand your attempt at metaphors here, but I’m afraid the Jewish people owe much of their fame to Christianity, even if it’s for all the wrong reasons.
Now let’s chat about your comment that: “since when has he been cliamed as a Jewish prophet bgy anyone other than the Muslims? “ (sic).
Well SJ, I not too sure how far outside of reading this column your Biblical scholarship extends, so I’ll break it to you gently: current consensus of New Testament scholars is that the historical Jesus was an apocalyptic prophet much like John the Baptist. They are also pretty sure he was a professing Jew. Maybe you can shed some additional light on all this.
Now the Torah may be your “history”, and you may be glowingly proud of it, but the objective fact is, it is a grim history of some pretty grim folks with some pretty grim ethical standards. And it’s mostly total bullshit from an historical standpoint.
Stuff like that “flight from Egypt”, never happened.
Oh, and I did read Ayn Rand, like the Torah, just more bullshit.