1 Peter 2:13-14
Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right.
Discuss.
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Ima Dunce spews:
I think he died the very year before the first Jewish- Roman war. Titus Flavius Josephus has the scoop.
MikeBoyScout spews:
If we’re going to play Master & Servant, what’s the safe word?
Willy Vomit spews:
@ 2
“Money”
Better spews:
Unlesss the federal government says grant gay marriage and then it’s o.k. to ignore 1 peter.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Fornicators must be stoned to protect goats from Republicans.
Mark Adams spews:
It would appear that Peter is arguing separation of church and state and for tolerance. Yet it’s impossible to know because of the murky nature of the books of the bible if the book was even written by Peter and if we have the whole in it’s original form. It does seem to be a bit kiss ass for someone who follows a guy crucified as an enemy of the state. So unlike other religions there are opposing views in Christianity. Even when the church was the only real institution in Europe it struggled with this concept of separation of church and state. Owning great swaths of land and even having its own armies. Even when Stalin alluded to the pope not having any divisions in actually the pope does have the Vatican Guard and can raise divisions. The first Crusade seemed like a good idea at the time to one pope who quickly had serious misgivings.
In the March issue of National Geographic there is a story on a synagogue in Hoquq, Israel where pictures of a pair of armored elephants have been found in the floor. There is no story of elephants in the old testament nor new. Where is this story? It’s lost. As is much of the factual information that we would demand for any of the parts of the bible if written today. Incidentally these are not Republican elephants they have more balls.
Godless Heathen spews:
Apparently God runs HR at Walmart.
Ima Dunce spews:
@6 “It would appear that Peter is arguing separation of church and state and for tolerance.” Not at all. The emperor was demanding he be worshiped as a god in Jewish temples and the Jews would not submit. He was even demanding they erect statues of him, which outraged them. No tolerance or separation in that. Peter was a shill for the Roman elite.
Mark Adams spews:
@8 First of all I don’t believe the apostle Peter wrote 1st or 2nd Peter. If Peter did this is a great accomplishment for a fisherman from Bethsaida who probably didn’t read or write in Hebrew let alone in Greek. It’s unknown when the books were written but sometime before 135.
The Roman Emperor who ordered a statue of him as a god be erected in all temples of the Empire was Caligula. He was killed by the Pretorian Guard before this happened in many temples. It was not a popular idea to the Jews, but it wasn’t particular popular with many Romans in Rome either. Still he was Romes bad boy and probably no better or worse than most Emperors, He died in AD 41 long enough for things to cool off in Jerusalem and not an immediate cause of the Jewish revolt. Seems the Governor of the Province stole money from the temple in AD 66. Something about money started that revolt.
Yet Peter’s books have nothing to do with Jewish revolt and isn’t written for or against the Roman elite though he was writing to a Roman audience.
It would still appear to be an argument for separation of religion and state. It certainly is not about the Emperor placing statues in synagogues or churches. Today it’s not unusual to find an American flag in many Christian churches. I’m not sure abut synagogues or other national symbols, but our government isn’t requiring it. Now the Church of England well you can go into any church in England and see church and state. Henry the VIII certainly went big when he told the Pope to screw off.