1 Kings 1:1-4
King David was now an old man, and he always felt cold, even under a lot of blankets. His officials said, “Your Majesty, we will look for a young woman to take care of you. She can lie down beside you and keep you warm.” They looked everywhere in Israel until they found a very beautiful young woman named Abishag, who lived in the town of Shunem. They brought her to David, and she took care of him.
Discuss.
Why not a sheep? It would be warmer. It comes with its own wool.
Let’s see now, ummm, something, something, my boy Muhammad fucked six-year-old girls.
Ah screw it. I got nuthin’. Think I’ll go drive my car into some Muslims or SJWs. It’s how we roll, baby!
“Its good to be the king.” Mel Brooks
Abisshag making her appearance (sort of):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MePoDli__sY
@4 Yes, it’s best to steer clear of old girlfriends. You’re better off tied to a stake. Relatively speaking, of course.
Before Charlottesville: “‘The personal disgust for Trump within the Senate is really remarkable,’ a top GOP strategist told me last week.”
After: “Now the president’s refusal to condemn the ‘Unite the Right’ gathering in Charlottesville, Virginia … has begun pulling private disdain into the open.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/13/charlottesville-gop-disgust-for-trump-more-likely-to-come-out.html
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Did something snap this weekend? Will this be the event that brings Trump down? The clock may be ticking if a whole bunch of Republican senators now view Trump as a threat to their own careers instead of a useful idiot.
Tonight we learn the Charlottesville killer is a Hitler admirer who flunked out of Army basic training.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/.....index.html
@6 Probably not. No impeachable offense here. Though technically the process is a legal coup, and well the house has to actually vote to impeach before the Senate gets to do anything.
What is not likely to happen (and this would be true if the Democrats were in power) is for the Senate to actually do anything. And any law that would come out of some knee jerk reaction would probably be highly unconstitutional.
The whole Charlottesville event has undertones of speech issues. Local law enforcement should enforce the law, and ultimately is going to have to handle any future instances. Taking down civil war monuments is fraught with issues. Are all the Confederate monuments come down, shall we rename all the battlefields to the official northern name? Shall we wipe from the public view and record all things Confederate. Shall we forget that those who hide or forget history are bound to repeat it.
Removing the monuments creates a cause. Perhaps leaving them in place, and putting up other monuments would be a better solution.
What can the President do in this case? Other than be weeper in chief not much at all. The Weimer Republic never could get a handle on how to control the Communists and NAZI’s from rumbling on the streets of Germany. Their efforts just brought both groups more recruits and power. The NAZI’s won the race, The communists had they won would not have been much different. WW II would still have happened, and it would have been started by Germany and the USSR in Poland. Only Italy may have been an ally, and Japan would have been a wild card, but probably not much would have happened in the Pacific differently. Maybe instead of WWII it would be called two separate large wars, with the US being neutral in Europe.
When you allow the extremists from both sides to run the agenda dumb things happen.
@8 Ever heard of the 25th Amendment? Yeah, that’s the veep and cabinet, but do ya think senators don’t talk to them? Do ya think they’d blow off a bunch of senators who told them, “The GOP’s survival is at stake?”
Happy 87th birthday George Soros. Advice on how to say warm in bed here on HA.
Well I’ll be damned! Why didn’t anybody think of that? So simple. Problem solved. Nobody will ever die at the hands of conservative valorized Nazis and KKK ever again. No more #TrumpCar murders. No more truck bombs. No more 3% militias pointing ARs at feds. Hoooray!
Inside the shortbus…
… is just another slightly shorter bus.
And inside that shorter bus…
well, I think you get the idea.
@9 It would be easier and more permanent to do impeachment. Like the guy gets turned into a newt by a witch who ever is President could get better. While President Wilson starts the fight on the issue, and it’s entirely possible a future first lady could keep up a charade for days, specially if the VP and cabinet go along.
The 25th comes out of the Kennedy assassination and the possibility Kennedy could have hung on for days, weeks, months, or longer.
It’s possible the Senate, VP, and cabinet would not follow the amendment immediately as it would appear unseemly. The cabinet tries to pull this with Trump and there will be fewer cabinet members.
Unless you are a shadow Pence supporter there should be no reason you or any sensible Democrat or Progressive would support this. If Hilliary Clinton were President she has health issues a Republican Senate could remove her from office especially if she were to faint during some ceremony, parade, party ect. If the Republicans in Congress were to pull this non sense then some Democratic would have to vote to keep Trump in office than allow the coup. Then again a lot of Senators of both parties are bought and paid for by corporations, and will do whatever their contributors say. Pence is a corporate guy. Since your into stocks guess that makes Pence your guy and whatever is good for your stock port folio is good for you. You got a cognac and Cuban cigar picked out for your celebration?
And ultimately it is both houses of congress who would make any final decision. It’s unclear if the Senate can make the call the President is incapacitated.2/3 vote of both houses. Joint session or separate votes? When you get through it all unless you got a Kennedy situation impeachment and removal from office would be a simpler coup.
@11 And what is it the President is supposed to do at the local and state level. He or she has limited power and resources. Lincoln did do exactly what you seem to be calling for in Maryland. He brought in the troops, suspended civik rights ect and later the Supreme court did say bad president.
Yet he did what was necessary to protect the capital and keep Maryland in the union. Yet he did not do these things in Kentucky although he believed which way Kentucky went determined the fate of the union.
Amazing! Unprecedented! Honestly folks, nobody could have predicted that move! Simply a remarkable and truly original rhetorical feat. Very reminiscent of the great Spassky/Fischer matchups of the 1970s. So creative and efficient.
Perhaps what is most impressive is that this move still leaves room for the more modern “many sides” gambit recently demonstrated by Fuckface, should it be required.
Ladies and gentlemen, we are in the presence of greatness.
Duhr, I dunno.
Maybe say, like out loud, that Nazis and KKK are bad.
Doesn’t seem like a tough one for anyone else. Folks have been sayin’ it for decades and nary a scratch.
Shortbus, you’re a hoot. I doubt there are more than half a dozen people alive today with the rhetorical skill to dance on the head of that pin you chose. And honey, you are not one of them. Defending this makes you one of them.
Congrats.
@10 He has a 45-year-old wife.
@10 “Though technically the process is a legal coup”
No, it is not. The Framers did not intend popular election of presidents, and they included a removal process in the checks and balances they crafted. Removal pursuant to that process is within the framework of our government and therefore by definition not a “coup.” When Clinton was impeached, I don’t recall any Democrats calling it a “coup,” and if Trump is impeached he will be replaced by another Republican — one chosen by the same voters who chose Trump — which hardly can be considered a “coup.”
@12 The origins of the 25th Amendment predate the Kennedy assassination. Proposals were being floated in the 1950s and the American Bar Association endorsed the amendment in 1960.
While the incapacity clause has never been invoked, that’s because Vice President Bush was flying when President Reagan was shot, and Reagan was out of surgery and alert by the time Bush landed. Later, in 1987, Bush and the cabinet considered invoking the 25th because Reagan, who was old, seemed distracted and inattentive, but when the vice president and cabinet convened to check him out, he came across as in command of his faculties.
And then, of course, there’s Alexander Haig’s infamous “I am in control here,” which was not lacking in promptness, merely in legal authority.
Btw, Haig will never ever be president.
@13 Nobody’s saying Trump should do anything “at the local and state level.” What he should do – at the national level – is shut his big mouth instead of inciting these people.
@14 “Ladies and gentlemen, we are in the presence of greatness.”
No, we’re in the presence of banality on a Trumpian scale.
Interesting video. Few comments on todays wage slaves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qBi-3doEzU
@18 Who cares if Haig is ever President. Other than Haig.
Of course you just pointed out the biggest problem with the 18th Amendment. Short of the President having a bullet in the brain, a stroke or heart attack and is in a hospital bed it’s not likely a cabinet is going to judge the |President incapacitated. Most are attorneys and few are doctors. And we now know Reagan has Alzheimer’s and probably should not have had a second term.
And just why is having an incapacitated President a real crises of a problem as we have had several who were for a time while they were in office, and Republicans have yet to forgive Mrs .Wilson, though we never got the Armistice through the Senate things went along very well. Thabk you Mrs Wilson.
@19 If Trump says something his walk to the podium is analysed. He’s damned if he says nothing or whatever he says is too much or not enough. And frankly the Mayor, Governor and other politicians have said more than enough.
@15 He has said those words. You might not believe him. Others may not believe him, but he has said the words in the past.
And it does not get you off the hook as to what the President should do. Which is?
If it’s to acknowledge and say some words then he has done that. You are not happy about the words he used. Ok so what is he supposed to do?
Round up these people and execute them on the front lawn? Or their stand ins? Would that satisfy you?
@16 Good for George but the palace keepers may think he needs a younger woman. You jealous RR?
@17 They also considered there not to be a method to remove the President from office. Except death and they sought to make sure the office was not hereditary. When a President can removed by anyone but the people (voters) or electors who placed the person in power it’s a coup. It was a pretty revolutionary idea.
Removing the figurehead of power (who exercises real political power) is always a coup, unless you control the figurehead. Queen Elizabeth is hanging in there with no plans of abdicating. Charlie might never be King unless there is a coup. Charlie is so fucked.
@17 You did not hear the word coup because the Senate did not remove him from office. Of course the then VP claimed the Supreme court completed a coup putting Bush into office. Still that has given him time for a movie career.
I do believe politicians of both parties make far too much noise about impeachment and beat that drum far too much, even when they have no ability to do the thing they threaten. Though the other members of Congress should take action against members brining empty articles of impeachment to the attention of congress. .
@18 Of course Haig had control of the football. Actually Haig said is our national horse whisperer. He whispered and the horse calmed down. And Bush was so Presidential, bet the bible and camera were ready for the ceremony ala LBJ setting the precedent on how to do this on Air Force One.
23, 24,
Put the fuckin shovel down, Gomer.
Your digging straight to the Bürgerbräukeller.
It wont end well.