Oy.
I’ll write more on this later — much more — but I just wanted to go out on a limb and say that if the GOP was not guaranteed of losing control of the House of Representatives before Rep. Mark Foley’s sudden resignation, the scandal erupting in the wake of his departure will almost certainly seal the deal. This scandal is big. Big, big, BIG. The repercussions will be felt nationally… and by that I of course mean locally.
As Josh Marshall has already pointed out over on Talking Points Memo, the Page Boy Scandal has effectively “decapitated” the House Republican leadership.
What do I mean by decapitated? […] Rep. Tom Reynolds (R-NY) is in a tight race for reelection and he’s chairman of the NRCC, the Republican House campaign committee. He’s in charge of the effort to keep the majority.
What’s the number one thing on his mind right now? I doubt it’s the NRCC or even his race for reelection. I think Reynolds is, to put it mildly, distracted right now.
How about Denny Hastert and John Boehner? I don’t see them going on shows or making any public appearances for a while. They’ll get asked awkward and possibly unanswerable questions about Foleygate. I’d say they’re out of commission for fundraisers too.
And pretty much any campaign joust or jab at the Democrats from one of these guys, on whatever issue, will be instantly transformed into some sex-with-pages snark. “How can we trust them to protect America when they can’t even protect the summer interns on Capitol Hill.”
[…]
The simple fact is that to the extant campaigning determines the outcomes of elections, the race goes to the side that can remain on the offensive most consistently and define the national debate on its own terms. Foleygate has made it very hard for the leaders of the House GOP to go on the offensive on anything relevant to the election. For political purposes they’re basically out of commission. And they’ve given Democratic challengers in every district around the country a slew of questions with which to pummel GOP incumbents or any Republican, for that matter, who puts his head up on television. This is in the context of an election that was already going very badly for House Republicans. Foleygate has now made them all but politically defenseless in the final stretch of the campaign. And that is a very big deal.
It certainly is.
And as always… it’s the coverup, stupid.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thebl.....w_fol.html
Looking at the syntax here, I wonder if Foley is actually JCH or Puddybutt?
I think Klake was over here posting “Can you measure for me?”
Kerry deserted and went to Paris and supported the NVA.
What didn’t Hastings know about Foley and when didn’t he know it? Under Hastings, the House Ethics Committee is about as effective as a shopping mall security guard. I’m sorry, I shouldn’t have said that. I just insulted mall security guards.
Kos sums up things nicely.
The coverup was all about holding on to power..
How do you like that wingnuts? Shouldn’t surprise you. It doesn’t surprise me that you would sacrifice kids to hold on to power.
“Quell the furor”
Good luck wingnuts!
JCH (8:01:21 PM): i am hard as a rock..so tell me when your reaches rock
Teen (8:01:23 PM): i have a cast fetish
JCH (8:01:27 PM): well tell me
JCH (8:01:32 PM): cast
Teen (8:01:44 PM): ya like…plaster cast
JCH (8:01:49 PM): ok..so what happens
JCH (8:01:58 PM): how does that turn you in
Teen (8:02:02 PM): i dont know
Teen (8:02:04 PM): it just does
Teen (8:02:08 PM): ive never had one
Teen (8:02:16 PM): but people that have them turn me on
Teen (8:02:27 PM): and if i had one it would probably turn me on
Teen (8:02:29 PM): beats me
Teen (8:02:32 PM): its kinda weird
Teen (8:02:50 PM): but along with that i like the whole
catholic girl look….thats our schools uniform
JCH (8:03:02 PM): ha thats wild
Teen (8:03:14 PM): ya but now im hard
JCH (8:03:32 PM): me 2
JCH (8:03:42 PM): cast got you going
JCH (8:03:47 PM): what you wearing
Teen (8:04:04 PM): normal clothes
Teen (8:04:09 PM): tshirt and shorts
JCH (8:04:17 PM): um so a big buldge
Teen (8:04:35 PM): ya
JCH (8:04:45 PM): um
JCH (8:04:58 PM): love to slip them off of you
Teen (8:05:08 PM): haha
JCH (8:05:53 PM): and gram the one eyed snake
JCH (8:06:13 PM): grab
Teen (8:06:53 PM): not tonight…dont get to excited
JCH (8:07:12 PM): well your hard
Teen (8:07:45 PM): that is true
JCH (8:08:03 PM): and a little horny
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Bria.....038;page=5
So here’s the tally in Republicanland. Two adult men or women who love each other and want to devote their lives to each other: sick.
A 54-year-old man sending messages with sexual overtones to a 16-year-old staffer, on the other hand… ‘simply naughty emails.’
Bush spokesman, Tony Snow, via John Aravosis on the messages from (former) Chairman of the Missing and Exploited Children’s Caucus, Mark Foley: “I hate to tell but it’s not always pretty up there on Capitol Hill and there have been other scandals as you know that have been more than simply naughty emails.”
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/42442/
When you think of it, it is not that bad that the GOP leadership covered up “naughty emails.” Glad to see the White House doesn’t find this to be a big problem.
Bush can’t go on the offensive for them either. Five years of saing the same thing over and over and over has tuned much of America out, he’s been caught lying too many times to be believed, and Woodward’s book and other events are breaking new Iraq scandals as we speak, such as Abramoff’s March 2002 e-mail where he discusses the president telling him that Bush was trying to to “mollify the Arabs for the upcoming war on Iraq.”
Liars.
But Tony Snow has that serious drinking problem, poor man.
“But but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but Clinton…”
To think JCH got his start with the guiding hands of his Republican congressman when he was a page. Brings a tear to his eye to relive his happiest days.
He was always happy to wear the mop in the Navy, too.
I guess Puddy Buddy (remember when that was his handle…creeeeeepy) is running for cover along with the rest of the Republiscum.
Grand Ol’ Pedophiles, indeed.
Well, at least we don’t have to worry about what Dave Reichert knew. He doesn’t know anything. He’s so far out of the loop, he can’t even see the loop from there. The loop is a dot to him.
January 2001: Just before leaving office, President Clinton (at the urging of Jesse Jackson, among others) commuted the sentence of former Illinois congressman Mel Reynolds, who had spent 30 months in a state prison for having sex with a 16-year-old campaign volunteer and was serving a five-year sentence in federal prison for lying to obtain loans and illegally diverting campaign money for personal use.
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And this relates to Foley and the Republican leadership, exactly how? He was convicted, he went to jail, he is branded a sex offender. He lost power, prestige and his life.
Again, the WingNuts want to deflect to Clinton. Who by the way, is going down as one of the most effective presidents in history.
Thanks to Josh Marshall http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com
It took ABC news ONE DAY to find the IM messages after learning of the e-mails from Foley to the ex-pages. One day. Hastert and the other Republicans in the leadership and on the committe that is supposedly there to protect the pages DIDN’T WANT TO KNOW. How negligent is that?
JCH is just hoping nobody finds his emails to the kid too.
I am guessing this is not Rove’s “October Surprise.”
I don’t get this. I thought Democrats loved queers, homos, and fags. Besides, if this is about sex, shouldn’t we just “move on”?? hehe, JCH
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Gee, d’ya think?
Jessie Jackson has added former Chicago democratic congressman Mel Reynolds to the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition’s payroll. Reynolds was among the 176 criminals excused in President Clinton’s last-minute forgiveness spree. Reynolds received a commutation of his six-and-a-half-year federal sentence for 15 convictions of wire fraud, bank fraud & lies to the Federal Election Commission. He is more notorious; however, for concurrently serving five years for sleeping with an underage campaign volunteer.
This is a first in American politics: An ex-congressman who had sex with a subordinate won clemency from a president who had sex with a subordinate, then was hired by a clergyman who had sex with a subordinate.
His new job? Youth counselor.
JCH:
You are so right. So someone like you or I want to felate a 16 year old, why should that be any different from consensual sex between adults. Since Clinton had sex with a grown women, we should be allowed to sleep with any boys we like. Why won’t the dumbocraps stand up for our rights too, JCH? Thank God for people like the House leadership who know how to look the other way. hehe Maf54
JCH at 22:
Good to point out what Clinton “the first darky president” did. We don’t want people to get confused with people like us that sleep with boys just to keep our white blood pure. Could you imagine if Renyolds was a Jew!
I believe the term for the current scandel is now…
Masturgate.
May it fly around the cable news networks as long as Monica did.
This is what gay Republicans are like
http://www.democraticundergrou.....15;2287207
Gay Dems tend to be out, proud, and in relationships with other adults.
JCH 20-Like most republican homosexuals Foley would never admit to being gay. Liberals by their nature are more accepting of people “as God them” and so what we have is a situation where if a Liberal/Democrat appears straight you can be pretty sure he is since it’s no big to them if they are not. But If a Conservative/Republican appears to be straight you just never know if they are or not since they would be too ashamed to admit it because of their ignorance/intolerance. Ironic huh, the macho wingnut is more likely to be gay than the long haired hippy. One more example of right wing dishonesty. A little sensitive about this issue arent we JCH? If you are gay, it’s OK, really, we don’t care.
I thought you Democrat loved queers, homos, fag, and kiddie porn lovers. If Foley’s problem is “just about sex” shouldn’t we just “move on”? hehe, JCH
JCH:
You have no idea what a “BT” missile is do you??
Every Surface Warfare Officer would KNOW what you’re talking about when you’re referring to a BT missile.
In the same way an “AFFF nozzle” (Aqueous Fire Fighting Foam) is referred to in the fleet as a “Donkey Dick,” a BT missile is jargon for a specific type of missile.
And, you have no fucking idea what I’m talking about.
Commentby GBS [………………Just talked to my old boss [XO on a DD-963 class after his “gator tours on Newport class LSTs], and he didn’t know the term “BT missile off the rail”. My experience is “Gator Freighter”, [3inch 50s] with DCA [ yes, “A triple f” and PKP in every engineering space along with HALON systems] experience and a department head tour as “OPS”. Lots of message writing and watch standing as OOD [fleet]. 3 WESTPACS and 1 “IO” tour. Now, as a fucking E-3, you would have worked in deck and stood watches as helm and lee helm on my bridge. Maybe you might have been a “lookout”. Maybe you might have been a mess cook. Regardless, my E-7 chiefs would be responsible for you ass. Certainly not me. BTW, The ONLY words out of your mouth to me would have been “yes sir and no sir”, and only after asking your LPO to talk to me.
Naw Foley is a closet democrat. Gay and looking for young kids. He is of the Jesus General mold. Sort of a Goldy Moldy. lol
Foley may not actually be a pedophile–just your typical insecure conservative male who can’t handle relationships with equals.
Like I said JCH, you would’ve had to servce to know the naval jargon;
Like an “A triple F” nozzle is a called a Donkey Dick by sailors,
a nuclear missle is called a BT or Big Time.
Leaving the rail means the weapon launched successfully.
Bonus question for you: What’s the term used if the missle doesn’t leave the rail successfully and what is the next immediate procedure for a “hot” weapon stuck on the rail.
C’mon, JCH, this is basic “Surface Warfare Officer” stuff. Anyone who stood OOD Officer Of the Deck watch MUST know this information to be qualified to stand OOD watch.
Tick, Tock Pedophile. How long will it take you to surf the web for this answer, since you don’t know from your own military experience.
GO! Times a wastin’!!
If anything, the episode reveals the Democrats’ hypocrisy about their own behavior. The fact that Foley resigned virtually within minutes of being told that ABC News had copies of his salacious e-mails and text messages indicates he at least felt shame for his actions. Can the same be said for Democrats?
Sadly, it doesn’t seem so. How else can you explain the following?
• In 1983, then-Democratic Rep. Gerry Studds of Massachusetts was caught in a similar situation. In his case, Studds had sex with a male teenage page — something Foley hasn’t been charged with.
Did Studds express contrition? Resign? Quite the contrary. He rejected Congress’ censure of him and continued to represent his district until his retirement in 1996.
• In 1989, Rep. Barney Frank, also of Massachusetts, admitted he’d lived with Steve Gobie, a male prostitute who ran a gay sex-for-hire ring out of Frank’s apartment. Frank, it was later discovered, used his position to fix 33 parking tickets for Gobie.
What happened to Frank? The House voted 408-18 to reprimand him — a slap on the wrist. Today he’s an honored Democratic member of Congress, much in demand as a speaker and “conscience of the party.”
• In 2001, President Clinton, who had his own intern problem, commuted the prison sentence of Illinois Rep. Mel Reynolds, who had sex with a 16-year-old campaign volunteer and pressured her to lie about it. (Reynolds also was convicted of campaign spending violations.)
You get the idea. Democrats not only seem OK with the kind of behavior for which Foley is charged, but also they protect and excuse it. Only when it’s a Republican do they proclaim themselves shocked — shocked! — when it comes to light.
A Vet:
You forgot about Newt Gingrich dumping his wife while she lay on her hospital bed getting cancer treatments for an intern.
Or Henry Hyde’s youthful indiscretion when he was in his 50s.
Or something like this:
JCH: I miss you
Teen: ya me too
JCH: we are still voting
JCH: you miss me too
ABC sadly edits the bit where they “both appear to describe having sexual orgams” (as opposed to the other kind), but we do get to bask along with them in the afterglow:
JCH: ok..i better go vote..did you know you would have this effect on me
http://www.wonkette.com/politi.....204965.php
Why did you forget about all of those? Oh, that’s right, they are Republicans. Wow, it sounds like you are morally confused.
JHC:
It’s been 2 1/2 hours and youi still haven’t found out what to do with a “hot” missle stuck on the rails yet?!?!
What’s up, “LT”?
*snicker*
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Why doncha call your “XO” buddy?
Maybe your imaginery “XO” friend can help you!
C’mon JCH, what’s it called when a missle won’t launch and what is the immediate procedure that every Officer Of the Deck MUST know to be OOD qualified?
What if you were standing watch and a missle failed to launch, what would you do to save your crew and ship?!?!?
Besides wetting your pants, that is.
None of my Tom Clancy novels contains any of the appropriate references.
Damn.
I’m stuck.
Captain Jesus JCH PukiPants @ 36:
Funny!
Funny because it rings true.
How many people who covered for Foley were the ones who went after Clinton for getting a b.j.–which is completely legal? Some have said that morality exceeds the law–for the GOP, morality doesn’t even comply with the law. Good riddance.
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