Gov. Chris Gregoire has signed a climate change bill that Yakima Valley legislators fear will lead to mandates on agriculture to reduce greenhouse gases under the Growth Management Act.
If we waited until we got the “thumbs up” from “Yakima Valley legislators,” we would be waiting a long, long time.
Rep. Judy Warnick, R-Moses Lake, had asked Gregoire to veto the second section of the bill that requires the Department of Community, Trade and Economic Development to come up with methods on how counties and cities can respond to climate change, including how vehicle emissions can be reduced.
Warnick and other rural legislators worry that the state will tell agricultural communities how far trucks and tractors can travel.
The agriculture business just wants the government to stay the heck out of their bidness! (Except when they want the government to build them a multi-billion dollar reservoir. Then they’re OK with government.)
Gregoire on Tuesday vetoed other sections of the bill for technical reasons. In her partial veto message, the governor said opponents misunderstand the legislation.
“In my view, this section of the bill does not create a new mandate for local governments, and does not provide grounds for new litigation under the Growth Management Act,” she said in a statement.
She said the legislation “appropriately recognizes the differences between our urban and rural settings.”
As a westsider, I really don’t care how far a hops farmer in Zillah drives his tractor. I’d much rather get folks in big cities to drive less.
The ways we fight climate change will be as varied as are the different communities of Washington. We shouldn’t mandate how rural counties fight climate change, but we should mandate that they do fight it.
Um… Moses Lake isn’t in the Yakima Valley. Maybe I’m just over reading the post.
The Black Rock reservoir is just plain dumb.
The end is perfect.
“As a westsider, I really don’t care how far a hops farmer in Zillah drives his tractor. I’d much rather get folks in big cities to drive less.
The ways we fight climate change will be as varied as are the different communities of Washington. We shouldn’t mandate how rural counties fight climate change, but we should mandate that they do fight it.”
Yes, planning for climate change 14 years after the IPCC was convened! What a radical, extreme move to consider.
Then again, smart Yakima Valley farmers are probably already buying land in Alberta.
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Warnick lives in Moses Lake, which is in the 13th LD. Also in the 13th LD? Yakima Valley, at least part of it.
Leave the driving to us, sir.
I’ll stick with the, “Over reading the post” part of my comment. It is, in fact, 100 miles from Yakima to Moses Lake, but golly the 13th LD covers a lot of ground.
Yeh that Bitch will wipe out everybusiness in this state and every opportunity for income known to this state by her massive over taxation and over regulation.
Enjoy liberals, the lack of $$$ produced by your continual tolling and tax trolling, I won’t spend a F’n penny in this state until that Bitch and her over-regualating over taxing, over feeing tribe are long gone.
I control what I spend on, and I don’t add to her toll!
She’s in the Red country if she isn’t in Liberal SEATTLE!
“I’d much rather get folks in big cities to drive less.”
Nothing to fear here. The GOP is working on it. Nothing reduces urban driving like the massive unemployment that accompanies economic depression.
@1 If you leave it to Yakima Republicans to decide how to fight climate change, they’ll claim it doesn’t exist.
@5 “Yeh that Bitch will wipe out everybusiness in this state and every opportunity for income known to this state by her massive over taxation and over regulation.”
She’s been in office 4 years, so how come that hasn’t happened yet? Why is Washington ranked the 5th best state to do business in? And — trust me on this — if your greasy little real estate salesman somehow becomes governor, we’ll show him just as much respect as you accord the real governor.
#5 is high
“She’s in the Red country if she isn’t in Liberal SEATTLE!”
Um… No.
Dem’s have an overwhelming majority in both state houses and hold 6(soon to be 7) of our congressional districts. Dem’s held the 5th for about 20 years, so we can get that one back. Dem’s have held the Governor’s since ’85 or ’86. Patty Murray is one of the more liberal members of the Senate and has one every one of her races by comfortable margins. And lets not forget about how Maria Cantwell ran a fairly crappy campaign and still whooped your boy Mike! 56.9% to 39.9%.
Oops! Patty Murray won her races, not one.
It’s all empty wingnut bluster from here to November, when the most massive voter repudiation of the GOP since 1932 will be recorded for posterity.
Climate Change???? Oh shit, now global warming has turned into “climate change” or should it be “progressive climate change”. hehehehe
Hops, I thought at least some of you folks drank beer on Tuesdays. The price of hops (and all food) is going up because of the cost of transportation (to and from the farm)!
Yes, we need to deal with global warming. But since most of the gasses are coming from yer side of the mountains, it’s over there we need to worry about. Just remember, “NO FARMS, NO FOOD”.
One of the nice things about the Governor (and our Senators) is that they understand that life is a bit different over here.
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#5 is a genuine kook.
I’m sure GSClown won’t acknowledge it, but we are about 27th in tax bite as a function of total income. That would be 27th out of 50, GS.
Anyway, see http://www.ewg.org/
Click on “farming” and navigate through the subsidy pages. You can look up the subsidies by state, county, CD, name, crop, etc. The broke farmers really don’t like this much, but . . . .
One of the funniest times I have had on this page was showing a work colleague his “broke” wheat farmer cousin in Douglas County.
When EWG.org started this database (actually linked it), it crashed the first few days due to farmers looking up their neighbor farmers’ welfare amounts.
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Cool Beans! Thanks for posting the link.
Re: 17, It seems the liberal facists are out tonight. I posted an article by the “conservative BBC” stating that the climate was actually cooling in a thread dedicated to global warming and that is “off topic”. Off topic to Will must mean if you don’t agree with me you get deleted!
Just to keep you up at night Will here is the article again.
Global temperatures ‘to decrease’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/sci.....329799.stm
Do you have a Nazi heritage Will?
From Rob’s article:
But experts say we are still clearly in a long-term warming trend – and they forecast a new record high temperature within five years.
The WMO points out that the decade from 1998 to 2007 was the warmest on record. Since the beginning of the 20th Century, the global average surface temperature has risen by 0.74C.
While Nasa, the US space agency, cites 2005 as the warmest year, the UK’s Hadley Centre lists it as second to 1998.
Researchers say the uncertainty in the observed value for any particular year is larger than these small temperature differences. What matters, they say, is the long-term upward trend.
We’re clearly in a long-term warming trend and we’re due for record high temps. Sure sounds like global warming’s a goer to me.
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You’ve got a point there.
But, what Will was saying, if I read it right, is that implementation is best decided on and done at the local level and that the good governor forcing that implementation to take place is also a good thing.
Nite all. Yawn.
RE: 21, they also said that in 1998,1999,2000,2001,2,3,4,5,6 and 7. Looks like they were wrong about that. I am glad you still believe in the Goron theology
@22
Read it off your post at 19, not the first one.
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From Rob’s article:
But experts say we are still clearly in a long-term warming trend – and they forecast a new record high temperature within five years.
So another words those six hurricane the libs promised in 2006 will come over a longer time span. Freakin genius.
Yeh that Bitch will wipe out everybusiness in this state
Been governor for four years and the econonmy’s been ok – nothing here but an idiot shouting.
I won’t spend a F’n penny in this state until that Bitch
After she’s re-elected don’t let the door leave a red mark on your fat, stupid ass.
There were 9 hurricanes in 2006, which is very slightly below the average of 9.8 per season. The fact that no hurricanes made landfall in the USA in that year is unusual but not indicative of anything in particular. But the USA is not the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2.....ane_Season
Which is to say that the tropical cyclone events of 2006 cannot be said to have any predictive power.
If you want to know something about global anthropocentric climate change (which we all know JBD does not), read the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report “Climate Change 2007” (http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-syr.htm) from the Nobel Peace Prize-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
Wow. The Nobel Peace prize. Wow.
The same one that Le Duc Tho won right before he helped slaughter hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese…
Nobel Peace prize. Wow…
So, where are all the Yakima Valley farmers who are supposed to be getting all fat and happy growing rapeseed to make into biodiesel for Metro’s buses, using Metro sludge as fertilizer?
6 Agreed, Roger, that like any system, a socio-economic structure that’s out of equilibrium will eventually correct itself. However, this might be a little like expecting a jetliner in a tailspin to pull itself out before it hits the ground.
“…scientists question whether this means global warming has peaked and argue the Earth has proved more resilient to greenhouse gases than predicted…”
G.D. liberals lied again. No story there…
http://www.investors.com/edito.....4249288396
The growers ought to be the people most concerned about climate change. Most of them are pretty slow though. And many of the people who dominate the ag business in the state are troglodites when it comes to anything that smells green.
Growers in the state are noticing changes due to climate change. Word is getting out. I bet most all of them will come around in a couple of years. And when they do, the GOP legislators that represent them had better get on board, or Democrats will start being elected again in rural places east of the Cascades.
When the oil runs out and all the ice is melted we could
use the rising sea water in massive desalinization plants
to provide fresh water to areas that need it. Also
technology will have advanced where that same sea water
will probably be fueling our cars with hydrogen anyhow.
See how the invisible man in the sky thought of everything.
Maybe that glacier that carved through my back yard 10000
years ago will return. I wonder what made it melt?