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It doesn’t matter. We can do anything we want, because you’re all LEFTIST PINHEADS!
That was supposed to be Mr. Cynical mode.
Ersatz degree, AWOL from a previous government job, unqualified for current job … where have we seen this before? It seems to be SOP for GOP officeholders these days.
It is becomer more obvious that that Real Republicans are finaly seeing that the Neo-Cons are destroying their party. And destroying America at the same time.
Maybe our TROLLs will finally get the message.
LOL, I am kidding of course, the TROLLS don’t have the ethical backbone to admit they have been defending anti-American Fascists all this tme.
Hmmm … the Region X FEMA director is a wife beater with a violent temper who lies and votes illegally … sounds like just the kind of guy you want commanding Blackwater security guards if the Department of Homeland Security decides it’s expedient to supersede state and local police with private mercenaries for — what purpose? If you want to effectuate a fascist takeover of a democratic government the first thing you need is a private army.
@1
We’re leftist pinheads with AK-47s, how does that grab you?
Hey, it’s perfectly legal, now that God-fearing Republicans have repealed the assault weapon ban (which was a joke and didn’t ban much of anything, anyway).
The wingnuts are armed to the teeth, so why shouldn’t liberals arm? We’d be crazy not to.
When you have a right winger like Ann Coulter going around saying liberals should be put in “concentration camps” and “executed,” and the goose-steppers applaud and buy her books by the trainload, it’s pretty obvious these people mean to do us harm.
Don’t plan on discussing your constitutional rights with the Blackwater guys when they show up at your door to escort you to the gas chamber. When that happens to me, the only discussion that will take place is with the business end of an AK-47. The Rapture will come early for them.
Roger Rabbit, the funny part of all this is that the Blackwater boys will be greated with cheers by the Neo-Con Symps… and then be promptly executed by them.
Small bit if cheer in a rather horendous state of affairs.
How many of you know FEMA is building concentration camps, or have heard of the Rex 84 program?
“There over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general’s signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached.”
http://www.sianews.com/modules.....8;sid=1062
See also:
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm [this site has photos]
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html
http://www.greatdreams.com/concentration.htm
http://www.freedomdomain.com/concamp.html
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/.....0997.shtml
Hey, if you don’t believe Roger Rabbit, just do your own Google search for “FEMA concentration camps” or “Rex 84 program” — it’s all over the internet! It’s pretty hard to keep empty 600 camps surrounded by guard towers and barbed wire secret. It’s pretty obvious they’re not Girl Scout camps, right?
@9
Yes, it’s possible when the wingnuts begin shooting, they’ll take out the “private security contractors” before they go to work on liberals. There’s always someone who doesn’t get the word on what they’re supposed to do.
I have 2 posts in limbo right now. One of them is about the concentration camps that FEMA has already built in the U.S. If you don’t want to wait for Goldy’s spam filter to release my posts, you can do your own Google search for “FEMA concentration camps” or “Rex 84 program.”
Actually RR, it is the Blackwater boys executing the Neo-Con Symps. But in the chaos, who wll be counting the bodies and affiliations?
Pennington sounds like exactly the kind of guy you need to run a gulag if you’re thinking of raising a private army and replacing a democratically elected government with a fascist dictatorship.
@12
Believe me, when chaos ensues and not-in-uniform guys with M-16s start going house to house, they will have a printout with names and addresses on it. Just aim at the guys with guns but no police badegs. Those will be the fascist death squads. If they take out the neocon symps or vice versa, fine, but don’t count on it.
Remember, all their fancy training and bulging biceps don’t count for shit if you get the drop on them. One-finger karate trumps martial arts every time, so long as that finger is on the trigger.
OK, that’s enough black helicopter stuff for now. Righties obsess on conspiracy theories 24-7, but Roger Rabbit only does it 15 minutes at a time, then lets go of it.
If I may change the subject, some of you may remember that Stefan Sharansky recently “outed” me as Dean Logan blogging on a King County computer. I’m not Dean Logan nor am I using a government computer, but it’s useless to tell Stefan that, as he’s impervious to all known facts. So I play along and humor me, just in case he might go postal or something if confronted with the ugly truth that his belief I’m Dean Logan is wrong, just as his belief that Dean Logan and King County committed vote fraud is wrong. I wouldn’t want him running around waving a 12-gauge when I come over at night from Green Lake Park to graze in his garden and shit on his lawn, or anything like that! So, once agai, I’ll pretend to be Dean Logan.
Since I’m now Dean Logan, and Stefan is a poll worker, I’m Stefan’s supervisor. Believe me, this lazy shit needs a LOT of supervising, because he won’t do a goddam thing except sit on his ass all day if you don’t hands-on manage him every minute!
For example, checking Stefan’s blog 2 minutes ago, I see that he hasn’t posted a damn thing today. Even though it’s 3:30 p.m. This guy must sleep in ’til 5 p.m. or something. I better get him an alarm clock before the 20th, because poll workers are expected to show up at 6 a.m. Roger Rabbit is a poll worker too, and with my luck, I’ll draw the same precinct as Stefan. It would be just like a Republican to not show up for work until 6 p.m., so a Democrat has to do ALL the work! That’s pretty much SOP for Republicans because they’re all
F R E E L O A D E R S
but I digress. As I recall, I was discussing the recent lack of posting activity on Sucky Politics by its owner, Stefan. My guess is he’s losing interest in his blog. That’s not surprising because nobody reads it anymore except Roger Rabbit and 2 little old ladies in Shady Acres Retirement Home who mistakenly think they’re clicking on an elephant porn site. I wouldn’t waste any time writing for a blog nobody reads, either. Stefan may be a stupid liar, but he’s not a fool. Maybe he gave up on Sucky Politics and got job — he’s a fool not to. It’s not easy making the payments on an $800,000 house once you’ve gone through your tax-free inheritance. On the other hand, I’m not sure Stefan has ever done anything productive in his life — you sure wouldn’t know it from what his activities have been over the past year.
I mean, obsessing over Dean Logan and stalking him isn’t productive activity, now is it? On the other hand, maybe Stefan is a closet gay and has a secret crush on me … ahem, on Dean.
That would explain a lot of things.
Damn! Another RR post went into purgatory.
Are black “progressive” New Orleans gang members who commit felonies still able to vote Democrat in 2008? Look, unless the DNC has a few hundred thousand NY City Democrat “double voters” named Goldstein, Loeb, and Goodman, who vote in NY as well as New Orleans, the Dems really could be in trouble in LA in 2008. Massive voter fraud will be needed to insure the Democrats have a chance. Perhaps a ticket of Clinton/Landreau or Maxine Waters would be interesting.
@ 19 beyond the foggy nonsensicality of this post one thing comes through easily. Racism, Neo-Con class warfare and ignorance.
Was that what you were trying to communicate JCH?
Mission Accomplished!
Roger Rabbit, quit whining about your posts being held up. Everyone knows it is only the TROLL posts that are caught in Goldy’s filter.
At least all the Neo-Con Symps believe that to be the case.
It seems to me that blame is equally distributed across the boards on this situation, yet you’ll never hear that from the likes on this board.
prriss, that is because the blsame stops at the Oval Office. At least it used to be that way when there was accountability in the White House. And the Govenor of LA and the Mayor of NO, DID NOT APPOINT THESE INCOMPETENT FUCKS!
So take your “plenty of blame to go around” and shove it up your fascist sympathizer ass!
20.DON………The truth will set you “progressives’ free!! Democrats: economic parasites [like you, Don]
JCH, if 400,000 of the poorest of the poor settle in Texas, that might tip the scale in a way you may not be comfortable with.
Roger Rabbit@17—
You are actually feebly attempting to label Stefan Sharkansky as a “do-nothing”???
Gimmee a break Rog.
You admitted you couldn’t make it in the real world so you became a DSHS Attorney for 30 years…
You admitted how frustrating and ineffective your time was and after awhile it was just about the pension.
TALK ABOUT THE POT CALLIN’ THE KETTLE BLACK!!!
Seems like you are becoming even more insanely aggressive since Stefan got his hands on those KingCo absentee ballot envelopes. Stefan has uncovered an even bigger mess than most of us imagined in our worst case scenario.
KingCo was well over a month late in meeting Stefan’s records request. Does that bother you?? The envelopes should have been organized and easily obtainable.
C’mon Rog…get serious!
Mr. Irrelevent @ 25 “Stefan has uncovered an even bigger mess than most of us imagined in our worst case scenario.”
Did the minnow finally read the Downing Street Minutes?
This is lovely!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9280375/site/newsweek/
“Only 38 percent of Americans approve of the way Bush is doing his job overall, a record-low for this president in the NEWSWEEK poll.”
“most Americans, 52 percent, say they do not trust the president “to make the right decisions during a domestic crisis†”
“Reflecting the tarnished view of the administration, only 38 percent of registered voters say they would vote for a Republican for Congress if the Congressional elections were held today”
Neo-Con death squads are the only hope for the Fascist Bush Regime.
Keep your powder dry!
Let me get this right. A guy goes out and gets a political appointment for which he isn’t qualified, and inflates his resume. Someone finds out. How does this translate into the defeat of Neo-cons everywhere? And why drag Stefan into it all?
You guys must really be bored on a Sunday afternoon. Of course, it is only two of you having a grand old love fest. But, because you both like to post endlessly, you help Goldy out with traffic numbers. Heck, you probably both ARE Goldy.
Let me get this right. A guy goes out and gets a political appointment for Homeland Security which he isn’t qualified, and inflates his resume endangering America.
And Janet S has no problem with this?
Atlas shrugged at you post, Janet. And then he pissed on it.
WOW
What a great blog 29 post 3 assholes
Yo! You are unkind to Mr. Cyn-Irr, Ivan and JCH!
They should be called “Politically Lost”
Janet S should be known as “Ms. Cyn-Irr”
Goldy is doing the public a great service by exposing piece of shit GOP appointees. (Maybe he can expose a few piece of shit Dem appointees one of these days.)
But the best everyone can do in response to this is to yell at each other about completely unrelated matters?
Mr. Pope, perhaps you could lay out your plans for responsible government.
First question: What are you fellings regarding taxes in Washington State?
2nd question, Mr. Pope: Do you denounce the Neo-Con Fascists of the Bush Administration?
Yes Richard, we all want to know. What are your “fellings”? I assume you want to fell a tax or two!! Some of them should have fell some time ago right?
Ah yes, all these Neocon fascists. Progressives live those around Mussolini in the 1930s. Or like the Nazis of the 30s. Didn’t the Kennedy matriarch and his namesake son like dem Nazis? Oh that’s right this information is not to be known!! Kind of like the Democrats on the wrong side of the VRA and CRA of the 60s.
Yes Donk****don, you can throw your names all over the place, and I’ll be damned sure to point out how your Dem heroes worshipped at their trough!
Fit right in with “Brownie”. He should take “Brownie’s” lead and go for a stiff drink. Good work, stock up on the canned goods and keep digging. Wonder what all those soccer/security Moms that voted for Captain Clueless are thinking these days?
Not to change the subject but the highly regarded FOx news is wall to wall with new terror tape. Rove’s numbers must really be tanking.
PuddyBud @ 36 caught me saying “Felling” instead of “Feeling”
Then he enlightened us with this statement:
“Progressives live those around Mussolini in the 1930s.”
WOW!!! PuddyBud, is that an alien language?
BTW PuddyBud, the next time you correct my spelling… Well, I will shove it in your face with your own typos.
Get it?
PuddyBud @ 36 caught me saying “Felling”
Feelings…felons -what is the defference when talking about donks. We are not spliting hairs here.
Donk****don, I was having fun. Many taxes should have fell long ago. Maybe that’s why people hate the gas tex? Yeah it should have been like instead of live. But do you agree Joe Kennedy Sr, and Jr were Jew hating Nazi Lovers? Come on Donk****don, don’t be transparent like Lucite.
@23
Wrong answer zippy.
The entire response has been a clusterfuck – start to finish and saying anything else is just incredibly naive.
If this happens again and you are fucking stupid enough to sit on your ass and wait for the government to come and save you, the only person to be blamed is your ignorant ass.
Joe Kennedy Sr. was a fascist. I admit it.
Now, dont you have some “Bush is a fascist” admitting to do?
Joe Kennedy was a rum Runner too.
Ah, the birth of capatalism!
The Bush approach to FEMA is part of his governing style. From tomorrow’s NY Times http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09.....an.html?hp
What cynicism.
Donnageddon @ 34 & 35
I see the Bush administration as mainly a political corruption and competency issue. Waste $300 billion in Iraq and then another $300 billion on Hurricane Katrina (when 1/3 of these amounts would have been more than sufficient to do each job), and there is a lot of opportunity for graft and corruption. A lot of the other policies are incompetent, such as going from a quarter trillion surplus to a half trillion deficit.
As for the “NeoCon Fascist” rhetoric, that goes too far and generates sympathy for Bush. Just like it is foolish to attack Bush for being religious — when the vast majority of Americans are also religious.
As for Washington state taxes, they are more regressive than any other state in the country — a tribute to the Democrats who have controlled state politics for the last quarter century. Washington state Democrats are the party of the rich in a way that equals or exceeds any caricature of the national GOP.
I think that the Kennedy and Heinz Kerry’s private jets caused the global warming that invited Hurricane Katrina; therefore, liberal Democrats killed poor blacks in New Orleans. [I love thinking like a “progressive”!]
How many New Orleans black homeless are headed for Cambridge and Cape Cod MASS, Stamford, CONN, or the Hamptons, NY? The answer: NONE, because, like DON and Goldy, Democrats hate blacks, except for their votes.
Question: Did the Mayor of New Orleans order the 1000 buses in New Orleans under water to kill blacks, or to wash them so they would look better on camera?
Since DON and GOLDY are not taking New Orleans gang memebers into their homes, do they hate blacks?
Question: 12% of the USA is black, but less than 2% of the posts on HA are black. This proves GOLDY hates blacks.
Richard Pope how can this be?
“As for the “NeoCon Fascist†rhetoric, that goes too far and generates sympathy for Bush”
You mean there is a pro-fascist base for Bush?
Is that what you mean?
Richard, really I do not know you from “adam” but if you want to differentiate yourself from the Bush fascists you need to be precise.
Denounce the Neo-Cons, be a Real Republican. I have voted for many Republicans before. Really! I spent 5 years in Kansas, and you will not believe the ignorant asses the Democrats held up for office.
I voted Republican proudly!
I could vote for you Mr. Pope. I am NOT a Democrat. I vote my conscience.
Make my conscience feel good about you.
A good article on what when wrong and how the Bush administration failed:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....rrer=email
And to just put to bed some of the favorite wingnut lies:
First, Michael Medved’s lie that no one thought the levees would breach:
“On Saturday, according to Army Corps homeland security chief Ed Hecker, the corps had warned FEMA that Katrina would probably send water over the levees, and quite possibly breach them. ”
That Bush’s distraction in Iraq didn’t contribute to the failures:
“The federal disaster response plan hinges on transportation and communication, but National Guard officials in Louisiana and Mississippi had no contingency plan if they were disrupted; they had only one satellite phone for the entire Mississippi coast, because the others were in Iraq.”
That Bush cared:
On the day the Hurricane hit, “On a trip to Arizona, the president shared a birthday cake with Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who was turning 69. During a speech about the Medicare drug plan, Bush noted that he had just spoken to Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff — about immigration.”
That Mike Brown may have had some ability as head of FEMA:
Monday, after the Hurricane had hit, “The federal interagency team seemed to recognize the urgency of the crisis at a meeting that morning, discussing the potential for six months of flooding in New Orleans, and a preliminary Department of Energy conclusion that as many as 2,000 of 6,500 oil and gas platforms in the Gulf could be affected. But before noon, FEMA’s Brown sent a remarkably mild memo to Chertoff, politely requesting 1,000 employees to be ready to head south “within 48 hours.” Brown’s memo suggested that recruits bring mosquito repellent, sunscreen and cash, because “ATMs may not be working.””
Thank goodness for the Military, it is just a shame that Bush and Brown didn’t use them:
“At the U.S. military’s Northern Command, officers had been watching the storm since early in the week and had started sending Army brigade commanders and their staffs to the three affected Gulf states by Thursday. “We were all watching the evacuation,” Maj. Gen. Richard Rowe, Northcom’s top operations officer, recalled. “We knew that it would be among the worst storms ever to hit the United States.” But on Monday, the only request the U.S. military received from FEMA was for a half-dozen helicopters.”
Paragraph after paragraph it appears that if there was something to do wrong, the Bush Administration did it. Read the article, but I will leave you with this, from Sept. 1, 2005:
“Anger was also rising at federal officials, who often seemed to be getting in the way. At Louis Armstrong International Airport, commercial airlines had been flying in supplies and taking out evacuees since Monday. But on Thursday, after FEMA took over the evacuation, aviation director Roy A. Williams complained that “we are packed with evacuees and the planes are not being loaded and there are gaps of two or three hours when no planes are arriving.” Eventually, he started fielding “calls from airlines saying, ‘Well, we are being told by FEMA that you don’t need any planes.’ And of course we need planes. I had thousands of people on the concourses.”
At the convention center, thousands had gathered by Thursday without supplies. There were no buses and none on the way. Nagin, almost in tears, issued a “desperate SOS.”
But official Washington seemed not to be watching the televised chaos. Bush was still insisting the storm and catastrophic flooding his own government had foretold was a surprise. “I don’t think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees,” he said.
Later, in another television interview, Brown insisted that everything was “under control.” And though the crowds had started to flock to the convention center two days earlier, Brown said: “We learned about the convention center today.””
Damn Donk****don voted Neo-Con Fascist? Say it ain’t so someone?
Donnageddon, Bush is not a fascist. I know the definition and it doesn’t hold for him. I know lucite loves to use it but it doesn’t work. And, you didn’t write it correctly. Wasn’t Joe Kennedy Sr., father of our most famous swimmer and Harvard cheater Teddy, a Jew hating Nazi lover? Do you need to view the Google search stem I used?
I am still waiting for JustDumbBozo to apologize to President of the Red Cross Marty Evans (I thought Progressives liked ladies in power) who said the LA-NG stopped their relief efforts at the SuperDome Convention Center and the Interstate Bridge. I am dreaming, because it will never happen.
Donnageddon @ 53
Calling Bush a “fascist” goes too far, backfires and generates sympathy in the same way that calling Kerry a “communist” would do.
As for the “Neo-Con” label, it seems like the problem is more like an old fashioned “Con-Job”. And I don’t mean “Conservative”.
Goldy, How can you be a Kennedy supporter if old Joe was a Nazi? I thought Jews hated Nazis. Do you hate Jews like Democrat Kebbedy?
Goldy, “Fess up”!! How many blacks post on HA? Tell the truth!! How many blacks show up at your Drinking Bar?? These questions need answered!!!
My answer to JustDumbBozo:
http://www.captainsquartersblo.....005416.php
and
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05254/568876.stm
I hope he can read.
Reply to 19
“Are black “progressive” New Orleans gang members who commit felonies still able to vote Democrat in 2008?”
Sure, unless they’re caught. And why not? Karl Rove probably will get to vote in 2008 even though he committed the most serious crime of all — treason!
@21
They won’t admit that liberal posts get caught in the filter too, just like they won’t admit any of their other mistakes.
Reply to 22
Advertising on behalf of neocons is not this blog’s advertised mission. This is a leftwing political blog, jackass! If you’re unhappy with what you read here, go crawl back into your Free Republic sewer, you fucking Freeper.
JCH: If your father was a murderer, does that mean you are too?
Nice attempt to TOTALLY change the subject tho’. is that the only thing that you stupid rightie trolls know how to do?
Reply to 26
“Stefan has uncovered an even bigger mess than most of us imagined in our worst case scenario.”
Rational people don’t beat on dead horses this long.
“KingCo was well over a month late in meeting Stefan’s records request.”
How do you figure that? They don’t have to give him the records in 5 business days, they only have to respond in 5 days, and the response can consist of a reasonable estimate of how much time they will need to produce the records, and depending on what it is and how hard it is to find a month may be very reasonable.
“Does that bother you?? The envelopes should have been organized and easily obtainable. C’mon Rog…get serious!”
I guess you weren’t an observer of the King County recount, huh? You’ve probably never been to M-BOS. You probably don’t know what 800,000+ ballots looks like. They’re in a big fucking warehouse in over 1,000 boxes with hundreds of ballots to a box, Cynical. How about if YOU get serious.
It’s obvious Stefan is getting the access to the information he requested — he’s posting copies on his web site.
P.S., Roger Rabbit has been called a lot of things, but nobody has ever called RR “feeble” before. Methinks it’s your name-calling that’s getting feeble, Cynical — you anti-American, unpatriotic, horse’s ass!
Comment on 38
At the rate Bush’s ratings are dropping he may overtake Ah-nold, whose approval ratings are in the mid-30s, although it’s hard to tell which of them is dropping faster.
The “Terminator” is gonna get terminated — he’ll be a half-term governor.
Movie actor who knows nothing about government running the state of California — what a fucking joke.
But the crackhead in the White House is no fucking joke, that liar/thief is getting people killed.
Reply to 35
I mailed my absentee ballot tonight, and I hate to tell you this Richard, but I didn’t vote for you.
Reply to 44
No, I think people hate taxes because they hate paying taxes.
Well guess what, we all hate paying taxes! Anyone who LIKES paying taxes has something wrong with them. Liberals hate paying taxes too, just like we hate flossing or eating brussels sprouts, but we do it because we’re better off in the long run.
Hey righties, I see part of I-90 fell down and killed some people today, they must be practicing for when I-912 passes!
Comment on 48
Why would anyone think people who hate governmet, doesn’t believe in government, and want to destroy government, could run anything having to do with government effectively?
@49
“As for Washington state taxes, they are more regressive than any other state in the country – a tribute to the Democrats who have controlled state politics for the last quarter century.”
Oh bullshit, Richard! This is the same tax system Dan Evans couldn’t change back in the sixties. It far predates the Democrats of the last 25 years — who, by the way, have not “controlled” state politics all that time — until this January the GOP controlled the state senate for at least 10 years, which had a lot of negative impacts on our state.
@50
No, I think JCH’s brain farts warmed the atmosphere at least 6 degrees, fucking up the Gulf Stream, and that’s what killed all those people in MS, AL, and LA.
PUBLIC NOTICE — ROGER RABBIT ON VACATION
Roger Rabbit will not be posting this week. RR is not dead. RR is traveling and sightseeing. RR is checking out the Garden State, Garden City, the Hanging Garden, and a bunch of other gardens. Yum! Yum!
“who, according to his spouse engages in domestic violence”>>>>
This has something to do with running FEMA?????
“I think it’s livable,” said John Lopez, who moved to New Orleans from the New York City area about a year ago. “If they got running water to all these buildings that are obviously inhabitable, they could get the city cleaned up a lot faster because people would be cleaning up their own blocks and their own neighborhoods.”>>>>
WTF? We are going to pay to rebuild so this will happen again?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/hur.....0bQ–
RogerRabbit@74–
Have a good vacation.
I’m sure you need to rest your typing FINGER!!
Oh and Roger Rabbit—
My guess is it took over a month to honor Stefan’s simple public records request and give Stefan access to those ballot envelopes because someone needed to “REVIEW” what was given to Stefan.
Even with Logan’s REVIEW, what Stefan has found is nothing short of astounding.
KingCo stole the election.
Your punishment is extermination by traffic jam!!!
Roger Rabbit @ 69
‘I mailed my absentee ballot tonight, and I hate to tell you this Richard, but I didn’t vote for you.’
Does Richard have any chance on the other ballots you can send in to get counted without attributed to any voters?
Add to the Katrina death count before all of the bodies are removed from the water. Free abortions!
http://www.gynpages.com/
moron@79
our punishment is apparently you whining about it 9 months later. What did you losers bitch about before the election?
More Democrat voter fraud in Seattle? Why not bus in a few thousand New Orleans homeless, but only for the election? Then be sure to bus them back. [Democrats hate blacks. Kerry was late with aid to New Orleans, and NO black homeless are going to MASS or CONN!!]
The MSM is starting to pick up on the story as reported by those who were actually there and are the real experts. As I PREDICTED!
Beware leftys, there’s a lot more in the works at the television and radio networks as well. The following is from the Pittsburgh newspaper:
The federal response to Katrina was not as portrayed
Sunday, September 11, 2005
It is settled wisdom among journalists that the federal response to the devastation wrought by Hurricane Katrina was unconscionably slow.
“Mr. Bush’s performance last week will rank as one of the worst ever during a dire national emergency,” wrote New York Times columnist Bob Herbert in a somewhat more strident expression of the conventional wisdom.
But the conventional wisdom is the opposite of the truth.
Jason van Steenwyk is a Florida Army National Guardsman who has been mobilized six times for hurricane relief. He notes that:
“The federal government pretty much met its standard time lines, but the volume of support provided during the 72-96 hour was unprecedented. The federal response here was faster than Hugo, faster than Andrew, faster than Iniki, faster than Francine and Jeanne.”
For instance, it took five days for National Guard troops to arrive in strength on the scene in Homestead, Fla. after Hurricane Andrew hit in 2002. But after Katrina, there was a significant National Guard presence in the afflicted region in three.
Journalists who are long on opinions and short on knowledge have no idea what is involved in moving hundreds of tons of relief supplies into an area the size of England in which power lines are down, telecommunications are out, no gasoline is available, bridges are damaged, roads and airports are covered with debris, and apparently have little interest in finding out.
So they libel as a “national disgrace” the most monumental and successful disaster relief operation in world history.
I write this column a week and a day after the main levee protecting New Orleans breached. In the course of that week:
More than 32,000 people have been rescued, many plucked from rooftops by Coast Guard helicopters.
The Army Corps of Engineers has all but repaired the breaches and begun pumping water out of New Orleans.
Shelter, food and medical care have been provided to more than 180,000 refugees.
Journalists complain that it took a whole week to do this. A former Air Force logistics officer had some words of advice for us in the Fourth Estate on his blog, Moltenthought:
“We do not yet have teleporter or replicator technology like you saw on ‘Star Trek’ in college between bong hits and waiting to pick up your worthless communications degree while the grown-ups actually engaged in the recovery effort were studying engineering.
“The United States military can wipe out the Taliban and the Iraqi Republican Guard far more swiftly than they can bring 3 million Swanson dinners to an underwater city through an area the size of Great Britain which has no power, no working ports or airports, and a devastated and impassable road network.
“You cannot speed recovery and relief efforts up by prepositioning assets (in the affected areas) since the assets are endangered by the very storm which destroyed the region.
“No amount of yelling, crying and mustering of moral indignation will change any of the facts above.”
“You cannot just snap your fingers and make the military appear somewhere,” van Steenwyk said.
Guardsmen need to receive mobilization orders; report to their armories; draw equipment; receive orders and convoy to the disaster area. Guardsmen driving down from Pennsylvania or Navy ships sailing from Norfolk can’t be on the scene immediately.
Relief efforts must be planned. Other than prepositioning supplies near the area likely to be afflicted (which was done quite efficiently), this cannot be done until the hurricane has struck and a damage assessment can be made. There must be a route reconnaissance to determine if roads are open, and bridges along the way can bear the weight of heavily laden trucks.
And federal troops and Guardsmen from other states cannot be sent to a disaster area until their presence has been requested by the governors of the afflicted states.
Exhibit A on the bill of indictment of federal sluggishness is that it took four days before most people were evacuated from the Louisiana Superdome.
The levee broke Tuesday morning. Buses had to be rounded up and driven from Houston to New Orleans across debris-strewn roads. The first ones arrived Wednesday evening. That seems pretty fast to me.
A better question — which few journalists ask — is why weren’t the roughly 2,000 municipal and school buses in New Orleans utilized to take people out of the city before Katrina struck?
Wrongboy:
Boy, you don’t have much, an opinion pices from Pittsburg and a blog entry that tries to twist the facts around the bus meme. If you could read, you would have seen that the Washington Post article answers your questions. But, of course, you just had to be wrong.
Another accountability moment:
FEMA independence
Voting 221-193, Republicans on Sept. 8 blocked a procedural bid by Democrats to establish the Federal Emergency Management Agency as an independent agency, with its director required to have “experience, knowledge, training and expertise in the area of emergency preparedness.” Had Democrats won this vote, they would have offered the amendment to HR 3673 (above). GOP leaders had barred direct debate on the Democratic amendment aimed at FEMA’s response to Hurricane Katrina.
A yes vote was to block the Democrats’ FEMA amendment.
Voting yes: Hastings, McMorris, Reichert
Voting no: Inslee, Larsen, Baird, Dicks, McDermott, Smith
http://heraldnet.com/stories/0.....all001.cfm
On Saturday, CNN.com had a piece [9/12 clarification carried by Reuters] titled “Firms with White House ties get Katrina contracts:”
Companies with ties to the Bush White House and the former head of FEMA are clinching some of the administration’s first disaster relief and reconstruction contracts in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
At least two major corporate clients of lobbyist Joe Allbaugh, President Bush’s former campaign manager and a former head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, have already been tapped to start recovery work along the battered Gulf Coast.
One is Shaw Group Inc. and the other is Halliburton Co. subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root. Vice President Dick Cheney is a former head of Halliburton.
The Baton Rouge-based Shaw Group, CNN tells us, is a major corporate client of Joe Allbaugh, President Bush’s former campaign manager and a former head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency. Among its Katrina-related contracts are this one valued up to $100 million from FEMA; and this one also valued up to $100 million from the Army Corps of Engineers.
But in their zeal to embarrass the Bush administration, CNN overlooks one very fat and inconvenient fact–and embarrasses only itself.
The Shaw Group, a multi-billion-dollar conglomerate, is headed by Jim Bernhard, the current chairman of the Louisiana Democratic Party. Bernhard worked tirelessly for Democrat Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco’s runoff campaign and served as co-chair of her transition team. Another Shaw executive was Blanco’s campaign manager. Bernhard is back-scratching chums with Blanco, whom he has lent/offered the Shaw Group’s corporate jets to on numerous occasions.
So, why was none of this mentioned in CNN’s Bush-profiteers-are-evil narrative?
Send them a clue here.
Fortunately for CNN, they weren’t the only ones guilty of this glaring omission:
UPI failed to note that the CEO of the Shaw Group also happens to be the Louisiana Democratic Party chairman and beleaguered La. Gov. Kathleen Blanco’s most influential crony.
So did the London Observer.
And Reuters/MSNBC. And the CBC.
And the NYTimes (reprinted in the Minnesota Star Tribune, the Houston Chronicle, the Scotsman, and scores of media outlets around the world).
pudd @ 38
“Progressives live those around Mussolini in the 1930s. Or like the Nazis of the 30s.”
FYI, those weren’t “progressives.”
RP @ 59 (and other posts about fascism elsewhere)
“Calling Bush a “fascist” goes too far
For those who disagree with the “fascist” label, how about debating the following points? I’ve posted these before; they’re excerpted from http://www.secularhumanism.org.....britt_23_2, where you can read the analysis yourself:
Analysis of [seven fascist regimes of the 20th century] reveals fourteen common threads that link them in recognizable patterns of national behavior and abuse of power. These basic characteristics are more prevalent and intense in some regimes than in others, but they all share at least some level of similarity.
1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism.
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights.
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause.
4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism.
5. Rampant sexism.
6. A controlled mass media.
7. Obsession with national security.
8. Religion and ruling elite tied together.
9. Power of corporations protected.
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated.
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts.
12. Obsession with crime and punishment.
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption.
14. Fraudulent elections.
Dr. E @ 89:
There is a reason he is called Wrongboy.
Ah yes, the UNBIASED and HONEST press;
CNN PRODUCERS TOLD ON-AIR GUESTS: GET ANGRY
Mon Sep 12 2005 12:42:11 ET
After weeks of over-the-top Katrina coverage from the mainstream media, LA TIMES’S oped guru Michael Kinsley divulges that CNN has been coaching guests to artificially enhance their on-air emotions!
The TV news networks, which only a few months ago were piously suppressing emotional fireworks by their pundits, are now piously encouraging their news anchors to break out of the emotional straitjackets and express outrage. A Los Angeles Times colleague of mine, appearing on CNN last week to talk about Katrina, was told by a producer to “get angry.”
Nah, that integrity filled CNN has no agenda… and if you believe that YOU ARE INDEED A FOOL.
So much for the Red Cross story:
“A Red Cross frequently-asked-questions (FAQ) document apparently posted on September 2 also notes, “We are an organization of civilian volunteers and cannot get relief aid into any location until the local authorities say it is safe and provide us with security and access.” During the 1 p.m. ET segment of Fox News Live on September 8, a local Red Cross spokesman in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, apparently still held to this position. Fox News anchor Gretchen Carlson asked Red Cross spokesman Jason Golden whether the organization was “on board with this mission, then, to not have the Red Cross in New Orleans?” He responded, “Absolutely.””
. . .
“Most important, all three of the media outlets’ reports made a glaring omission: They ignored the fact that the federal government should have been coordinating and overseeing relief efforts. If the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) had deemed it necessary for the Red Cross to be in New Orleans, FEMA should have bypassed the state officials who were purportedly preventing the relief organization from going in. As Media Matters noted, the American Red Cross charter states that it is supposed to “maintain a system of domestic and international disaster relief, including mandated responsibilities under the Federal Response Plan coordinated by FEMA.” The December 2004 National Response Plan (NRP), the federal Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) most recent plan for coordinated federal response to disasters, confirms the Red Cross’ status as a “primary agency” that will, under the oversight of FEMA and DHS, coordinate “federal mass care resources” to affected areas. Moreover, in a “catastrophic event,” such as what befell New Orleans, the NRP directs FEMA to act on its own authority to quickly provide assistance and conduct emergency operations, bypassing state and local authorities if necessary.”
http://mediamatters.org/items/200509120001
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I think that CNN pretty much lost its integrity with its American programming when they joined the ranks of infotainment “news” organizations about 5-6 years ago. You know, that was after the Time Warner/AOL takeover, when most of the networks actual journalists (like Bernard Shaw) departed or were fired, to be replaced by younger, more “attractive” faces. (Just watch Headline News sometime.) 3rd-string reporters like Wolf Blitzer got promoted to anchor positions, and unknowns, like actress-cum-journalist Catherine Calloway (with a total of 6 months experience reading the news in New Mexico) also got thrust in the anchor chair.
One could argue about the network’s tilt, but I’d say it’s demonstrably not to the left. One only need look at Kyra Phillips recent rants, or Tony Harris’ recent “interview” with Neal Boortz about “The Fair Tax Book.” The latter was, in my opinion, an embarrassing, totally scripted exchange between the two, where Harris aided and abetted Boortz by feeding him talking points, all the while using a fake, hyper-dramatic presentation.
From the NY Post:
SCHUMER’S SHAME
So, while many Americans were busy contributing money, clothing and other necessities for hurricane-devastated Gulf Coast residents, what was Sen. Chuck Schumer up to?
Raising money off the backs of Katrina’s victims — for the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee.
In one of the more cynical tricks we’ve seen lately, Schumer’s DSCC urged visitors to its Web site to sign a petition urging the firing of Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown, the focus of much of the criticism of the federal response to Katrina.
(Indeed, Brown was summoned back to Washington yesterday as Coast Guard Vice Adm. Thad W. Allen took over the Louisiana relief effort — signs that hardly bode well for the FEMA chief.)
A click on the petition opened a page requesting a donation to the DSCC, the party organization focused on recruiting and supporting Senate Democrats.
Only after the press blew the whistle did the tasteless scheme end. The committee yanked the link and agreed to donate any funds raised to charity.
Efforts to politicize Katrina continue apace; certainly Schumer isn’t the only pol seeking to take crass advantage of an indescribable human tragedy.
But he is from New York, which is approaching the fourth anniversary of a tragedy of its own — and certainly he should know better.
Chuck Schumer should be ashamed of himself.
IDGAF
This is old news. As I replied to this earlier, this whole situation was either one of two things: 1) a mistake, or; 2) intentional. The Schumer claims it was the former. We can either take him at his word, or refuse to do so, implying it was intentional. Neither really matters, as the original assertion is fallacious, since the authors don’t actually know Schumer’s intentions.
PuddyBud @ 58 “Damn Donk****don voted Neo-Con Fascist?”
That is a lie. But then, PuddyBud, I approach every one of your posts with the foreknowledge that it will be filled with lies.
IDGAF at 94
“From the NY Post:”
That is exactly where the seeker of truth quits reading your coment.
RP @ 52 “Calling Bush a “fascist†goes too far, backfires and generates sympathy in the same way that calling Kerry a “communist†would do.”
No. The first assertion 1) Bush is a fascist: is true
The second assertion 2) John Kerry is a communist: laughably false.
Therfore, truthfully calling Bush a fascist is no no way related to the false assertion that JK is a communist.
Dr. E@89–
You are probably correct that Nazi’s were not Progressives..
However, the Communists of the 1950’s actually did refer to themselves as “Progressives” repeatedly!!!
Something for you LEFTIST PINHEADS (aka LENIN’s USEFUL IDIOTS) (aaka 1950’s PROGRESSIVES) to be mighty, mighty proud of!
MULE-AGEDDON@all
You seem to have literally lost all control and common sense with your rantings and obnoxious posts.
Did you realize that nearly 10% of U.S Citizens have some form of mental illness mule-ageddon???
And did you realize that 100% of the LEFTIST PINEADS have some advanced form of mental illness???
I believe you have surpassed mere “DONKEY” status.
You see a mule is a STERILE hybrid of a horse and an ass!!
ESSENTIALLY A DONKEY WITHOUT WORKING BALLS!!!!
Mule-ageddon….MULISH ON AMERICA!
94.IDGAF….Chuckie Boy Schummerstein is a great representation of his NY Jewish Democrat community. Enough said!!
Mr C @ 99
Would that your argument were only that simple. “Progressive” as a label has meant many things over the decades, but is normally associated with social progress. Of course, the Communists saw themselves as espousing social progress, so their taking the label “progressive” is not surprising. In 21st-century America, “progressive” is not synonymous with “liberal” any more than “conservative” is with “islamofascism”.
Wow, Ms. Chickenhawk @ 100 talking about mental illness…, talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
JDB—
Hark….me hears squawking from yonder looney-bin!!
Dr. E@101–
If the term “progressive” has been so overused in the past, perhaps the LEFTIST PINHEADS can get together for a Bush-hating LOVE-FEST and give a free pound of hash to whoever comes up with a new label that better describes you knuckleheads.
How about LEFTIST PINHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or LENIN’S USEFUL IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or better yet….
Over-Controllingpickflyshitouttapepper—ives!
Well, apparently Mike Brown has resigned. Even after showing complete failure, Bush could not bring himself to show leadership and fire his ass.
Mr. C @ 104
Your post makes no sense whatsoever to me.
Mr. Irrelevent, it is high honor to have you ramble on about me like a one-toothed hillbilly on a moonshine bender.
Truly, you are the most brainless, dickless, honorless, souless campfire girl in the whole troop!
So Goldy….
Responding to…
“The fax says, in part, “I am the spouse of Region 10 FEMA Director, Department of Homeland Security, John Edward Pennington… on January 13, 2005, I… filed for restraining orders against my husband of fourteen years. Since that date I have filed for divorce and provided evidence to the court of a neck injury sustained during an assault from my husband on September 7, 2004. I have also provided evidence of repeated violations of existing restraining orders by Mr. Pennington, and statements from witnesses of his verbal abuse and violent temper.””
Does your posting here conclude that all such accusations are reliable and concrete evidence in ones character?
Let’s face it, recently, You have been contacted due to an accuation that you molest children.
If that’s the case, you may want to changes the name of your site to “Skinnersass.org”
Fascism anyone?
My response to “Calling Bush a “fascist” goes too far” got released from the spam filter at 92, above.
Remember, rampant cronyism and corruption is characteristic of fascist regimes.
Dr. E @ 92
1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism.
Dems – replace with “one world government” like the UN
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights.
Dems – except for the unborn, bearing of arms, free market health care.
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause.
Dems – “vast right wing conspiracy”, big oil, insurance companies, Republicans, etc.
4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism.
Dems – You got me here – Somalia, Haiti, USS Cole, etc. Apparently no body armor or armored Humvees at the end of Clinton’s watch.
5. Rampant sexism.
Dems – equate all sexes for everything so that all sex is OK. (Guard the farm animals and children.)
6. A controlled mass media.
Dems – 90% +/- at MSM (pre-Fox)
7. Obsession with national security.
Dems – Reduce at all costs, “peace dividend”, etc.
8. Religion and ruling elite tied together.
Dems – Earth religions and Aethiests help write laws
9. Power of corporations protected.
Dems – Certain “progressive” companies benefit with key insiders. (Enron, WorldCom, etc.) Replace corporations with unions and left-wing think tanks.
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated.
Dems – Unless labor is part of a mandatory union.
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts.
Dems – Unless they denigrate religion or support communism.
12. Obsession with crime and punishment.
Dems – reduce mandatory sentencing and number of prisoners by reducing capacity.
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption.
Dems – Unions, big city politics in NY, Chicago, and of course N.O., Rostenkowski, and the list can go on forever.
14. Fraudulent elections.
Dems – Count every vote even if it is not legal. Do not allow rules or laws that detect illegal votes.
NW @ 115
I’m not sure you understood the article or its arguments. Did you even read it?
And what am I to make of your comments: and implicit endorsement of fascism? Your counterlist is inconsistent in either trying to assert or deny that Dems. have anything to do with fascism.
What I would like you (and others) to think about is the following: to what extent does this list describe the Bush administration?
I think it’s really wonderful that ol’ JCH, who said two weeks ago that he/she/it’s retired in Hawaii, spends so much time telling us here in Washington state what’s right and what’s wrong. After all, no one’s better qualified for giving us advice than someone who doesn’t have to live with the consequences.
Reply to 82
Roger Rabbit is not dead. RR is visiting friends (and loyal Democrats) in the center of the garden universe, lovely and waterful Cowlitz County!!!
I notice that Matt Rosenberg on Sucky Politics is discussing water issues, which is the first serious thing I’ve ever seen on Stefan’s blog (naturally, Stefan didn’t write it, because Stefan isn’t serious about anything), but … I digress.
You asked me, “Does Richard have any chance on the other ballots you can send in to get counted without attributed to any voters?” In response, I only voted once, but I will discuss this topic with my 6,999 children living in Green Lake Park, all of whom vote as if their bunny lives depend on it, and I will assure each and every one of my progeny that Richard is a lousy candidate and they should vote for anybody but Richard!!!
Take that, Republican (and Libertarian) trolls!!! How you like them apples?!!
Uh-oh, one of my kids got run over by a car on Aurora Avenue this weekend, so now I only have 6,998 children living in Green lake Park. :(
Wabbit, you screw em and leave em? Don’t you hang around and teach your children anything? Sounds like the standard donk act of proliferation without consideration. A considerate father teaches his children the ropes before moving on to the next conquest!!!!
June 11, 2005
By Rebecca Cook
The Associated Press
SEATTLE — According to the official record, 1,678 people voted illegally in Washington’s 2004 election.
GEEZE – I’m glad they were just illegal votes and not fraud. I’m so confident in our election system now. What jerks those bloggers must be for thinking that 1,678 votes could have a material impact on an election decided by less than 200 votes. Where do those math-nerd jerks get off?! If only they would listen to your sagely advise and never think for themselves or question the authority of people who know better. GO DEMOCRATS! VOTE RON SIMS! Why? He’s just a modest guy in the BofA Tower trying to restore faith in our elections systems.
Prr@112: What are you really saying about Goldy? Hmmm… Me heart goes pitter pat!!! Clarification?
Dr. E. I really liked the last one:
14 Fraudulent elections. Elections in the form of plebiscites or public opinion polls (Bill Clinton) were usually bogus. When actual elections with candidates were held, they would usually be perverted by the power elite to get the desired result. Common methods included maintaining control of the election machinery (Broward, Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, Tampa-St. Pete, Chicago, San Francisco), intimidating and disenfranchising opposition voters blogcritics.org/archives/2004/10/24/004641.php), destroying or disallowing legal votes (Seminole & Martin Counties), and, as a last resort, turning to a judiciary beholden to the power elite (Al Gore Florida Lawsuit). And that’s just one Dr E. Thanks for the link.
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You’re welcome. I’m waiting to see a substantive discussion of how a party that was not in power at the federal level in 2004 could be considered fascist.
Anyone have the full text of the http://clarkcountypolitics.blo.....-john.html post? It looks like they didn’t like the traffic on it and took it down.
If Goldy or anyone has it, please repost here or email to me. Thanks.