Will from Pike Place Politics will join me in the studio to talk about the state GOP convention, immigration policy, and Dave Reichert.
Darcy Burner will join us a little later on.
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Will Rocks! In the studio!!!
Why don’t you talk about Burner’s political experience, her many years of community service, or her creditentials as an attorney — oh wait, she doesn’t have any of that!!!
Jeff Boly!?!
Illegal immigration benefits business. It’s not a left-right issue. Paranoid republicans don’t like illegal immigration but business minded republicans love it!
Couldn’t take the heat from the Capitol Hill caller?!?!? So you went off on some pro-slavery mockery? You’ve successfully made an Ass out of yourself Goldy!!! YAY!!!
Auntie-Goldy:
Haven’t seen you in a while. Mike take you off the payroll?
wow progressiveElephant. what a pseuodonym! I love the irony.
Tell me, why do mafia members always vote republican? Just asking.
progressive my ass. I think greedySelfishAndEthicallyChallengedElephant might be a bit more on the mark, but it doesn’t quite roll off of the tongue (or the keyboard for that matter.
Regards.
s/vote/support
not sure how many mafia members can actually vote, seeing as how the vast majority of them are probably felons.
ooops
Republicans may be naive and ill meaning but the Dems can be naive even if well meaning. How do you imagine the US is going to aborb 20-60 million new Americans of one ethnicity, entitled to affirmative action, in 10-20 yrs?
If we are to encourage immigration, why not form Africa or China as well?
Why r u taking so many damn ad breaks?!?
The last thing we need in our Congressional delegation is another frumpy liberal woman from privilege!!!
Cantwell is an opportunistic loser. We need someone with a backbone.
The last thing we need in our Congressional delegation is another frumpy liberal woman from privilege!!!
Commentby 800-CALL-PELZ— 6/4/06@ 8:37 pm
Nice. How about too many caucasian males?
Another failed career tries his luck as a talk radio host…Shiers, Ron and Don…now this clown.
why not talk about the Dept. of Peace?!?!?!
WTF?!? Burner is giving her standard stump speech on KIRO!!! Goldy won’t ask her any tough questions, or will he?
It’s hard to be a good radio talk show host, Goldy, because you have to be SO WELL PREPARED on the topics.
For example, when that guy challenged your statement that machine guns are illegal by pointing out that Oregon and some other states allow citizens to have them, a stronger response would have been to point out that Washington bans private possession of machine guns, and the Second Amendment doesn’t keep states from passing such laws. A private citizen can’t have a machine gun in Washington even if he has the federal license.
Wingnuts – call in and make asses of yourselves.
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Why do right wingers feel so compelled to lie about everything they even adopt misleading screen names? The only thing progressive about you is your medical condition, i.e. cerebral atrophy (also known as “progressive and irreversible brain rot”).
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“not sure how many mafia members can actually vote, seeing as how the vast majority of them are probably felons.”
That doesn’t stop Republicans from voting in Washington, and probably doesn’t stop them from voting elsewhere, either.
LOL @ roger rabbit. True man, true =P
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Well, Smoke, you’ve got a point — one I was thinking about as I listened to Goldy talk about immigration. I’m wondering that myself.
Mexico is a failed society. They have a dysfunctional government, a non-functioning economy, and out-of-control population growth. America’s dilemma is we can’t do anything about what they do in their own country, but the massive social and economic failure that is Mexico spills over the border into our country, and as their population grows exponentially so does the impact on the U.S. So, it’s not surprising that a growing number of Americans is increasingly thinking in terms of walling off the U.S. from the intractable poverty, corruption, and hopelessness to our south.
As we try to apply liberal thinking and principles to the issue of illegal immigration, we can’t afford to forget the problem is not static but dynamic, and we’re on a trajectory toward explosive growth in Mexican immigration into the U.S.
Nature leaves no habitat unoccupied, nor any food supply un-utilized. Every niche fills up until the ecosystem is supporting as many organisms as it can. A deer herd will keep growing until it eats out its food supply — and then starves.
While the analogy is not perfect, Mexico is somewhat like a deer herd — its population will keep growing as long as there’s a place for it to go and something for it to eat. If immigration into the U.S. continues unchecked, eventually the U.S. will fill up with Mexicans until our population density is as great as theirs. And unless we’re prepared to give them equal access to what our country has, that sets up a future two-tier society in perpetual conflict.
I don’t know the solution to the immigration issue, but I instinctively think that if we allow Mexicans to flood into the U.S., they have zero incentive to support their own population, to limit their population growth, or to deal with their social and economic problems. Either something has to give in how we do things now, or something’s gonna break down the road, because Mexico has spent the last century proving they cannot and/or will not solve the problem of supporting their people on their own soil. That’s the ugly reality facing us.
That doesn’t stop Republicans from voting in Washington, and probably doesn’t stop them from voting elsewhere, either.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/4/06@ 9:00 pm
To bad you will never know. What are you going to do about it, start IDing every voter at the polls. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Where’s the Cynical Irrelevant BOZO??? Goldy’s voice sounds just fine on the radio.
Are you disappointed? BOZO?
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Despite all the hooting and hollering from right-wingers about “illegal voting,” nearly all the evidence of felon voting, double voting, and dead voting pointed straight to Rossi supporters.
Darcy Burner has already hugged a rabbit. Reichert doesn’t even have a plan to hug a fucking rabbit.
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“What are you going to do about it”
Here’s an idea — how about if Florida makes registering at a false address a capital offense? I like the idea of executing Ann Coulter. Just kidding … or am I?
What the hell, if it’s okay for Pat Robertson to wish that Supreme Court justices were dead, then why isn’t it okay for me to wish that Ann Coulter was dead — or that Pat Robertson was dead? Why should wingnuts have a monopoly on wishing people they don’t like were dead? Republicans want a monopoly on every fucking thing. The problem is, it’s hard for me to stoop to being what they are, although the fact I was a Goldwater Republican in my youth makes it quite a bit easier.
If Wyoming pays a county for coyotes, why shouldn’t Washington pay a bounty for Republicans?
800-CALL-PELZ @ 11:
If you think that Burner comes “from privilege”, you’re sorely misinformed. Her background is strictly up-by-the-bootstraps blue collar military.
Goldy,
You did fantastic. You’ve got a great aircheck to put before the kptk people now! Go get ’em!
Here’s an idea – how about if Florida makes registering at a false address a capital offense? I like the idea of executing Ann Coulter. Just kidding … or am I?
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/4/06@ 10:01 pm
Yeah yeah. More hot air. You donks are not serious about ending voter fraud, it would cost you to many votes. More drivel.
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What’s the advantage of filling the seat with a rubber stamp for Bush’s lies, corruption, and incompetence?
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I’m perfectly serious about ending voter fraud, and I’m going to start by voting this fall for a new King County prosecutor, so Republicans like Lori Sotelo who commit voting-related crimes will go to jail, where they belong.
I dare that AIDS infested cunt Janet S to call in and start running her fat head about Darcy needing to stay home. I dare you Janet. Spew that shit in public for all to hear. You’ll double the voter turnout for Darcy!
Norm Maleng has overstayed his welcome, as far as I’m concerned. It’s time for that old fart to retire. We need a non-partisan prosecutor.
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They lie about everything else, so why not lie about Burner’s background, too? Hell, they even use misleading screen names.
I do like rabbits idea of making it a capital offense for a filing a false voter registration. The only problem is we would have to build gas chambers to execute the millions of democrats.
Of course executing all those dems would ease over crowding in cities like Philidelphia,Chicago,New York,Los Angelos, SF and Seattle. Would also lower the crime rate. Lets do it.
Of course I am just kidding… wait no Iam not.. yes….no
Reichert deserves to lose his seat in Congress because he uses his vote to block investigations and help cover up Republican corruption, lies, and incompetence.
Tell you what, Dufus. Let’s get serious about voting fraud, build the gas chambers — then let the chips fall where they fall. You’re on.
Damn fine job, Goldy. Very smooth.
I can already think of four Rossi supporters who are gonna be dead.
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Practice makes perfect, and Goldy will get better with more experience! I think Goldy has what it takes to have his own talk show.
Hey Goldy, when you get your own show, can I apply for a job as a research assistant?
Washington bans private possession of machine guns, and the Second Amendment doesn’t keep states from passing such laws. A private citizen can’t have a machine gun in Washington even if he has the federal license.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/4/06@ 8:56 pm
Like always you are embellishing your facts rabbit that law also Grandfather a lot of prior owners of machine gun who were legal to own such weapons. Now bunny brain research the law and inform everyone about the exception. This state allows certain citizens to own and use such weapons and that is why they got away with writing such a dumb law. The Thompson submachine gun was one of those weapons and certain owners still us and store them in their homes.
So everyone, how’d I do?
Goldy doesn’t have the voice for radio — too high-pitched and squeaky. Plus he couldn’t seem to remember the radio station ID before and after breaks, and had to seriously concentrate just to get the TOLL FREE call-in number out without laughing. Goldy’s performance was pale in comparison to Baghdad Jim last week!!!
Goldy and Will – you were both great. Nice job.
“Like always you are embellishing your facts rabbit that law also Grandfather a lot of prior owners of machine gun who were legal to own such weapons.” Commentby klake— 6/4/06@ 10:31 pm
klake, I’m going to help you out here, by giving you some legal advice — and not charging you for it, just because we’re pals. You’re welcome.
RCW 9.41.190(3) provides:
“It shall be an affirmative defense to a prosecution brought under this section that the machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle was acquired prior to July 1, 1994, and is possessed in compliance with federal law.”
Now let me explain it this way, klake. This isn’t the same thing as a grandfather clause. If you’re arrested, thrown in jail, and put on trial for possessing a machine gun, this section gets you off the hook IF you can PROVE to a jury’s satisfaction that you acquired it on or before June 30, 1994, AND have a federal license AND have complied with all federal laws. But you’ve still been arrested, thrown in jail, put on trial, and incurred the expenses of paying a criminal defense attorney.
In addition, because this section creates an affirmative defense, instead of a grandfather right, you do NOT have a cause of action against the police for false arrest, false imprisonment, or the costs of your defense. All an affirmative defense gives you is, if you prove the defense to a jury’s satisfaction, you go free.
Now let me clarify something about trials and juries. If you think the fact you can produce evidence that you complied with everything necessary to be entitled to this defense automatically means the jury will find in your favor, you’re dreaming! There’s this phenomenon called “litigation risk,” which refers to a number of things, such as the jury may not believe you or the jury may not find in your favor despite the evidence because they just plain don’t like you, or you could lose if you hire a lousy attorney to defend you. You know why most cases get settled out of court? Because most lawyers would rather not take their chances on what a jury might do, that’s why. They know damn well that juries are unpredictable.
And then there’s this thing called “jury nullification.” What it refers to is juries in effect saying, “we don’t like the law, so we’re gonna ignore the judge’s instructions, and do as we please.” Yes, it does happen. Now, what do you think your chances are of persuading a jury to uphold your right under Section (3) above to run around in the community with a machine gun? Let’s assume you’ve got a typical jury consisting of middle-aged housewives with kids in elementary school, retirees, maybe a schoolteacher or two, or a nun, or the wife of a cop … how much do you think they’re going to like the idea of you having a machine gun? You better wear your best suit, a tie, get a haircut, and hire a female attorney who comes across as a grandmotherly type, if you know what I mean — or you may find the judge’s instruction on your affirmative defense falling on deaf ears.
Now, klake, if you’ve got one of those pre-July 1, 1994, machine guns why don’t you take it out to a gravel pit somewhere in King County and plink beer cans with it — just to find out for yourself how good that “grandfather clause” is? P.S., bring the deed to your house to your attorney’s office.
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Now, klake … is there anything else you’d like to add about the “right” to possess machine guns in Washington?
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Of course, klake, if you think I’m a dumb-bunny attorney and don’t want to listen to my advice, go right ahead and take your legal machine gun to the gravel pit and see what happens. But don’t say I didn’t warn you.
Fake-Goldy @ 49
The whiteboard with the phone numbers was ont the opposite wall, the view obstructed by the guests (me and Darcy). So it was funny; he had to pull his head away from the mic to see the numbers.
Radio is hard. Have you ever done it? I bet not, chickenhawk.
Self-defense is an affirmative defense, too. You can find out how well it works by going to Third and Pike after dark with a gun and just standing there waiting for something to happen.
Washington law doesn’t say this defense only applies inside your home. If you shoot an intruder inside your home, you probably won’t be prosecuted in this state. If you shoot someone anywhere else, you almost certainly will be, and even if it was legitimate self-defense, there’s a substantial likelihood the jury will convict you anyway.
And if you go to Third and Pike after dark with a gun and stand there until something happens, the chances of the judge even letting your attorney put self-defense before the jury is close to zero. The judge almost certainly will rule that, as a matter of law, you are not entitled to a self-defense jury instruction.
I’m perfectly serious about ending voter fraud, and I’m going to start by voting this fall for a new King County prosecutor, so Republicans like Lori Sotelo who commit voting-related crimes will go to jail, where they belong.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/4/06@ 10:11 pm
So who are the Democrats putting up in 2006? The same candidate they ran in 2002?
What I’m saying, klake, is affirmative defenses are dicey and only a fool relies on them. It’s a legal “Hail Mary” play.
Goldy,Will, and Darcy. . .you came off smooth and polished. No matter how much the trolls stamp their feet and curse, you may have an opening in radio. Not everyone has a ‘golden set of pipes’ and what you have can be improved with practice.
You already have avoided one problem, that of ‘topping’ to make your emphasis. If you can incorporate ‘bottoming’ into your diction without sounding forced or faking, then you got several so-called hosts with regular gigs beaten.
If you shoot an intruder inside your home, you probably won’t be prosecuted in this state. If you shoot someone anywhere else, you almost certainly will be, and even if it was legitimate self-defense, there’s a substantial likelihood the jury will convict you anyway.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/4/06@ 11:02 pm
The fellow who shot Gregory Stitz in Bellevue on July 23, 1993 in alleged self-defense was never prosecuted.
http://archives.seattletimes.n.....uery=stitz
The Perfect Black Democrat Hillary Village of Zhampali, Zimbabwe – The soldiers rolled past Lot Dube’s land, and set up camp nearby. They stopped just long enough to give him a blunt message: Your fields are ours. ”They told us, ‘We are taking away your fields from you’,” says Mr. Dube, who farms a 10-acre plot south of Bulawayo, Zimbabwe’s second biggest city. The soldiers, who arrived last November, proceeded to plow under his tomatoes, onions, and sweet potatoes.
Did Goldy say anything about shutting down the white Montessori program at Graham Hill School while he was on the air?
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That’s a good question, Richard. Maleng has been a popular prosecutor and didn’t have an opponent in his last re-election (which is as far back as I remember). But his partisan horns came out in the Sotelo affair, and I’m sure that I’m not the only Democrat in King County who was disgusted and angered by Maleng’s refusal to prosecute Sotelo. Obviously, an opposing candidate has to come forward, but L’Affair Sotelo may be enough to prompt the Democrats to try to recruit someone.
Inspired by Platinumboy, I offer this topic for possible discussion on your next radio appearance: “Safe freezer-cash-stashing for democrats: Amana or Sub-zero?”
Now, klake, if you’ve got one of those pre-July 1, 1994, machine guns why don’t you take it out to a gravel pit somewhere in King County and plink beer cans with it – just to find out for yourself how good that “grandfather clause†is? P.S., bring the deed to your house to your attorney’s office.
Comment by Roger Rabbit — 6/4/06 @ 10:53 pm
Rabbit you made my case and I do know folks who meets that requirement, but to shoot a weapon in King County is always a risk even if you are legal. Now the system is not fair and sometimes not enforce properly, but that is the folks who administer it not the people violating any laws. The last time I shot such a weapon was on Fort Lewis and no one died looking at such a weapon. Those who fear weapons need to see a therapist to work out their personnel problems instead of making stupid laws that cannot be enforced. Today anyone who is arrested for any crime and they posse anything more than a cap pistol and a few rounds they have an arsenal. They will be paraded around town as a potential harden criminal even if they never broken any law. Roger life isn’t fair and Seattle is still Socialist.
[Democrat lose some voters in Chicago, IL. Too fucking bad!]
The largest clue that something had changed in Chicago’s vibrant heroin market came in February, when police found a dozen users sprawled unconscious in one place. One day in April, there were dozens more. Toxicologists at the Cook County morgue discovered fentanyl, a powerful painkiller many times stronger than morphine, in the bodies of addicts who died.
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Based on the facts given in the news story you linked to, I’m very surprised by that result, Richard. It appears to have been a road rage incident, in which the victim followed the shooter into a parking lot. The victim was aggressive, belligerent, drunk, and threatening — but unarmed. As you know, the legal test for self-defense in Washington is whether a reasonable person in the shooter’s shoes would believe that he was in imminent danger of death or grave bodily harm.
Years ago, I witnessed the aftermath of a shooting, although not the shooting itself. I was in Belltown with a friend, and there was a dead body on the sidewalk in front of a bar across the street. The police and EMTs were in the process of arriving. I later learned the incident transpired as follows. The victim and shooter were drinking in the bar and got into an argument. Their altercation moved out onto the sidewalk, where the victim apparently threatened the shooter, who then pulled a gun. The victim then opened his shirt, pointed at his bare chest, and told the shooter, “Shoot me, you son-of-a-bitch … shoot me right here.” The shooter did, and the victim dropped, stone dead.
I read later in the papers that the shooter copped a plea to voluntary manslaughter and was sentenced to 2 1/2 years. The victim was Native American, the shooter was Caucasian.
Will, I’m right there with you, I’m sure radio is hard — in fact I know from doing a show at a college station. Some people have a face for print, and a voice for radio – unfortunately, Goldy has neither (let’s be honest, ok?).
That aside, I do think Darcy has a GREAT radio voice! That being said, I didn’t agree with a lot of the standard DCCC talking points she delivered on air. The ENTIRE exchange between her and Goldy was a complete LOVEFEST, not unlike what her friends at The Stranger publish on an almost weekly basis!
But his partisan horns came out in the Sotelo affair, and I’m sure that I’m not the only Democrat in King County who was disgusted and angered by Maleng’s refusal to prosecute Sotelo.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/4/06@ 11:15 pm
There is nothing PARTISAN about Maleng’s refusal to prosecute Sotelo for perjury. How many people did Maleng prosecute for perjury last year anyway? Hardly anyone gets prosecuted for perjury. Plenty enough people commit it.
There were probably at least 1,500 voters who signed registration forms under penalty of perjury saying that they resided in a private mailbox. How many of them did Maleng prosecute for perjury? ZERO.
Even though it is almost impossible to challenge a mailbox voter registration without proving where the person actually lives, a perjury prosecution would actually be much easier. You could certainly prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they didn’t live in the mailbox.
The Democrats aren’t going to recruit anybody to run against Maleng this year. The devil you know is better than the devil you don’t. Maleng isn’t going to prosecute anyone for public corruption, regardless of whether they are Democrat or Republican.
I know someone who had been threatened by another man in the apartment complex who finally kicked in the apartment door and attempted to assault my acquaintance, who shot him twice with a .38 revolver, which failed to kill the assailant but did put him in the hospital for a day or two. My acquaintance ultimately was not prosecuted, but spent three days in jail while police investigated the case, despite it being an obvious home invasion incident.
Of course, the law of self-defense is irrelevant if your attempt to defend yourself fails, which is likely to happen if you are under-armed. One of my law school classmates got herself killed by shooting an armed intruder with a .22 pistol. He shot her between the eyes with his .38 and walked into the Harborview emergency room with her .22 slug in his chest. Police statistics reveal the standard .38 police special is effective to stop an attacker less than half the time. A .22 can kill someone, but lacks the “stopping power” to keep them from doing serious damage to you, as my classmate found out the hard way. Since it takes only 1 or 2 seconds for someone to shoot you, what you need is a gun that will disable the attacker instantly. “Stopping power” is a function of the shock of the bullet or pellet charge hitting the perp, and generally speaking, what you want is not a high powered rifle round with tremendous penetrating power but a large-bore, slow-moving round that hits like a brick. A 12-gauge shotgun loaded with 0-0 buckshot is very effective for this, but the problem with a shotgun is that a perp within arm’s reach can easily take the gun away from you by grabbing the stock with one hand, the barrel with his other hand, and twisting sideways. Have a friend try this on you, using a broom, sometime to see for yourself how easy it is. In handguns, I consider anything less than a .357 magnum (revolver) or .45 ACP (semi-auto) too unreliable to be trusted for self-defense. I won’t reveal, of course, what if any guns I might own but let’s say that if I theoretically carried a gun for self-defense it probably would be a large-caliber handgun that has been extensively customized by an expert gunsmith to maximize its utility for close-range gunfighting, probably would be loaded with a rapidly-expanding hollowpoint such as Federal’s Hydra-Shock, and probably would be carried in a quick-draw holster in locked-and-cocked configuration. This setup is not for amateurs; I’ve been trained better than most cops, have war-fighting experience, and was a military instructor who taught recruits and ROTC cadets how to use military weapons in combat.
Goldy—
I was only able to catch the last 30 minutes.
Imagine my disappointment when I all I heard was twisted facts and emotion about Graham Hill Elementary. Goldy….it was pathetic. Who was the stupid chick????? What an airhead. Did you at least get laid during the break?
The hightlights of the last 30 minutes were:
1) “We’ll be back after these messages”
2) The subsequent Commercials.
3) When you mercifully signed off for the night.
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Well, Richard, you’re overlooking something really important — namely, that virtually all of those voters were U.S. citizens entitled to vote, that the defects in their registrations were a technicality, that none of them were shown to have voted twice or otherwise voted illegally, and that they neither intended to break the law nor knew they were registered improperly.
Sotelo, on the other hand, knew damn well she signed over 150 attestations that were materially false. And she was involved in a nationwide conspiracyto harass and intimidate opposition voters. She didn’t think of this by herself; she was simply a functionary who willingly employed methods and tactics that were scripted by national-level GOP operatives for nationwide use, whose use in our state happens to be criminal in nature because of Washington’s unusually strong laws to protect voter rights. This is equivalent to saying that if robbing banks is legal in Texas, that doesn’t make it legal in Washington. She apparently got either no legal advice or damn poor legal advice before agreeing to participate in this venture, but in any case, her actons were felonious.
It would be ridiculous to prosecute a voter for registering at a mailbox, if the voter was entitled to vote, and there as no actual voting fraud (e.g., voting more than once). On the other hand, Maleng’s failure to prosecute Sotelo undermines our state’s laws protecting the voting rights of our state’s citizens, and gives a green light to those inclined to use voter harassment and intimidation as a tactic to discourage legitimate voters from exercising their franchise.
Sotelo is a scumbag and a criminal, and belongs in a prison cell.
Richard, you can argue all you want that Maleng merely exercised prosecutorial discretion and it’s just a coincidence that Maleng and Sotelo are both Republicans — but I’m not buying it. Maleng’s partisanship was on display during the recounts, and it takes a giant leap of faith to assume party loyalty played no role in his decision not to prosecute his own party’s county vice-chair. I’m not convinced his decision would have been the same if the perp was a Democrat or third party operative.
Goldy’s Arbitron Rating is in for the last hour.
Officially it’s a 0….
Unfortuately Arbitron doesn’t disclose down to the 100,000th.
In all fairness to Goldy, it was unofficially .00001, which means 11 people paused briefly while channel-surfing!!!!!
I hope KIRO brings Goldy back many times in the future and gives him a whack at primetime. Goldy brings an actual wretched, screechy voice to the Fringe Lunatic Left.
Goldy should have talked about something really important like the WSDOT major fuck-up regarding the Hood Canal Bridge. This article was in today’s Pt. Angeles Paper—
Key findings: FOTH & VAN DYKE’S report makes these observations on the Port Angeles graving yard, among others:
* The state Transportation Department did little analysis on alternatives to the Port Angeles site to build the graving yard.
* Examination of the site focused almost wholly on environmental concerns, mostly about salmon.
* Transportation gave inadequate and inaccurate information on the site to its consulting archaeologist.
* The archaeologist did little “deep site” testing, although Transportation recommended it do so.
* The archaeologist seemed not to understand the geology of the site’s near-shore location.
* The state Office of Archaeology and Historic Preservation was not briefed until the consultant’s report was done.
* The Lower Elwha Klallam tribe was alerted to the archaeological analysis by a form letter and only on the day the consultant was selected. Face-to-face meetings began only after the first human fragment was found.
RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE report include:
* Transportation should adopt financial reporting methods that make it easy to compare budgets to expenditures.
* Transportation project managers should have leadership, management and responsibility training.
* Transportation should employ internal experts, such as archaeologists.
* Transportation’s cultural resource specialists should be trained by an institution such as the federal Advisory Council on Historic Preservation.
* Those experts should review construction projects before the work is completely designed.
* Sites should be evaluated for the effects of soil compacting, vibration, de-watering and shearing that may occur during construction.
* Transportation should plan for future coastal projects years in advance of need.
* Transportation should involve local and tribal officials at all stages.
* Transportation should study tribal constitutions to learn how tribes reach decisions.
WHERE THE MONEY WENT———–
THE FOTH & VAN DYKE report draws these conclusions about monetary loses stemming from and following the graving yard project cancellation:
* Losses at the graving yard total $86,876,630.
They include $60.5 million worth of construction, $11.2 million to reassign equipment, supplies and workers, and $15.2 million to assess and select a new graving yard.
* Cost of the Port Angeles graving yard originally was set at $50.8 million but climbed by $10 million, mostly through $3.4 million of mitigation paid to the Lower Elwha Klallam and $5.4 million for archaeological services.
* Construction of pontoons at Concrete Technologies in Tacoma and other sites first was estimated at $106.9 million but climbed to $220.5 million.
Reasons include increased costs of labor and materials, working at a site one-fifth the size of the Port Angeles yard, building pontoons in four cycles in Tacoma rather than one or two in Port Angeles, and outfitting the pontoons in Seattle.
* The Hood Canal Bridge retrofit, budgeted at $275.8 million in 2003, climbed to $454.2 million in May 2005 and to $470.1 million in March 2006, the last increase due to contract renegotiations and engineering changes.
* New material worth $1.5 million remains at the Port Angeles site, plus $500,000 in salvageable material.
It may not be cleared for an additional 12 months.
Jim Casey,
Peninsula Daily News
Well, Richard, you’re overlooking something really important – namely, that virtually all of those voters were U.S. citizens entitled to vote, that the defects in their registrations were a technicality, that none of them were shown to have voted twice or otherwise voted illegally, and that they neither intended to break the law nor knew they were registered improperly.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/5/06@ 12:18 am
I BEG TO DIFFER.
Three of the voters that Lori Sotelo challenged — who were actually only two people — voted twice in both the November 2004 and November 2005 elections. These voters claimed to reside at the Pony Express Mail & Business Centers, 16541 NE Redmond Way, Redmond.
BRIAN GARMAN was also registered to vote in California as a DEMOCRAT at his residence that he and his wife own at 597 Wild Oak Drive, Santa Rosa, California. BRIAN GARMAN voted in BOTH King County, Washingon and Sonoma County, California in BOTH November 2004 and November 2005.
His wife is registered under both her maiden name TRUDY WISEBLOOD and her married name TRUDY GARMAN at the Redmond Pony Express Store. Curiously, she is not registered at all in Sonoma County, California. However, King County mails the TRUDY GARMAN ballot to the 597 Wild Oak Drive residence. The TRUDY WISEBLOOD ballot is mailed to a UPS Store at 122 Calistoga Rd, Santa Rosa, close the the Garman’s residence.
Both TRUDY GARMAN and TRUDY WISEBLOOD are active voters, even though they are the same person. TRUDY voted twice in King County in November 2004 and again in November 2005.
Dean Logan and Dow Constantine rejected Lori Sotelo’s challenge of BRIAN GARMAN and TRUDY WISEBLOOD/GARMAN, thus allowing each of them to illegally vote twice in the November 2005 election.
I say that Norm Maleng (or his successor) needs to prosecute BRIAN GARMAN and TRUDY WISEBLOOD/GARMAN for FELONY DOUBLE VOTING and Dean Logan for malfeasance in office, before even thinking about prosecuting Lori Sotelo for anything.
I’m not convinced his decision would have been the same if the perp was a Democrat or third party operative.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/5/06@ 12:23 am
Please update me on this situation after Norm Maleng prosecutes Democrats BRIAN GARMAN and TRUDY WISEBLOOD/GARMAN for FELONY DOUBLE VOTING.
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klake, if you fired a machine gun at Fort Lewis, I assume you did so as a member of the National Guard, Army, or Army Reserve, because as far as I know they do not let civilians use their ranges. Fort Lewis is a federal military reservation, and the military is, of course, exempt from state gun laws.
If you know people whose idea of a hobby is owning machine guns, you should think about getting new friends.
You know as well as I that if a madman shoots up a kindergarten with an AK-47, there’ll be a knee-jerk reaction among politicians to ban AK-47s. Actually, they didn’t exactly do that, it seems they only banned AK-47s with bayonet lugs and flash suppressors. Face it, politics (and, for that matter, human behavior in general) is driven by emotion, not rationality — if it wasn’t, Bush wouldn’t be president. It’s a fact of life that a lot of people are afraid of guns. The flip side is there also are people who think keeping a loaded revolver under their pillow makes them safer. And then you have the “militia” nuts running around in the woods in cammies with guns, “training” for who-knows-what.
By the way, I have a word of advice for those guys. Whoever they’re planning to fight probably won’t be running around in woods or fields, unless they’re expecting a war with pheasants or quail. If there’s an insurrection or civil war in our country in the future, it’s going to be fought in urban settings, and you may want clothing that makes you look like a garbage can or lamp post. And, as we’re learning in Iraq, the weapon of choice for urban guerilla warfare is not firearms but explosives. Claymores are good, but C-4 is better, although you can blow stuff up with fertilizer.
Speaking of fertilizer, I see the Mounties delivered three tons of ammonium nitrate to a Muslim prayer group they were investigating for plotting terrorist activity, then arrested them for possessing bomb-making material.
I’m not sure what a mosque needs three tons of fertilizer for, but this smells like entrapment to me. Better keep this in mind: The next time a wingnut offers you a truckload of bullshit, he might be an undercover cop, and if you buy his bullshit you could go to jail for the rest of your life.
Of course, anybody who buys rightwing bullshit deserves no less.
Speaking of fertilizer, I see the Mounties delivered three tons of ammonium nitrate to a Muslim prayer group they were investigating for plotting terrorist activity, then arrested them for possessing bomb-making material.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/5/06@ 12:57 am
Maybe the DEPARTMENT OF PEACE — which the Washington State Democrats propose to create at the federal level — can do a better job of handling this sort of situation. Just think, had the DEPARTMENT OF PEACE existed back in 2001, they could have convinced Mohammed Atta and Osama Bin Laden not to have airplanes flown into the World Trade Center …
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I sense a desperate edge to your comments there BOZO. You’ll grasp at anything – anything to keep from admitting to yourself: that Goldy did a decent job on the radio.
Organized, prepared and steady behind the mic. Evenhanded with his callers. Your precious winger crowd didn’t faze him one bit.
You lose again – BOZO.
I repeat, the only votes ruled ILLEGAL by the republican judge, in the republican county, during the republican challenge to the Governor’s rightful election were cast FOR republicans and BY republicans according to the republican Sec of State. If ANYONE is going to be prosecuted there are a bunch of REPUBLICANS on that list to pick from.
I noticed Janet S didn’t have the courage of her convictions to call Goldy and spew her bullshit about Darcy’s place being in the home. Janet S realizes that campaign didn’t work when her team tried it against Senator Murray so she shut up about it. Typical cowardly corrrupt republican.
Aren’t Senator Murray’s children GROWN?
Grown or not Pope-A-Dope, neither you or any of your other fellow right wing hypocrites had the nutsack to call the show and take that tact. I however encourage you to do so and am more than willing to call you a coward until you do. I want mainstream Washington to see what the Taliban-wing of the GOP gets them. So come on Pope. You claim to be a lawyer, a real person. Let’s see your letter to the editor decrying Darcy’s decision to run for office because she is …. a MOM! I can’t wait. And if you don’t have the courage of your convictions, that’s okay, no one expects you to. You’re a republican after all.
1. klake, if you fired a machine gun at Fort Lewis, I assume you did so as a member of the National Guard, Army, or Army Reserve, because as far as I know they do not let civilians use their ranges. Fort Lewis is a federal military reservation, and the military is, of course, exempt from state gun laws.
Roger you forgot that the military also have to follow the local gun laws unless the Governor declarers a state of emergency. I’m still required to have a conceal weapons permit and follow the same routine that you do as a citizen. Roger there is times that civilians get to shoot their weapons on Fort Lewis in High Power Matches. They also let High School students shoot their weapons under strict supervision so they know what the real thing is from the Michael Moore point of view.
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If you know people whose idea of a hobby owns machine guns, you should think about getting new friends.
Roger I know and have friends who have many different types hobbies and as long as they are legal and do not conflict with my personal values that’s ok.
You know as well as I that if a madman shoots up a kindergarten with an AK-47, there’ll be a knee-jerk reaction among politicians to ban AK-47s. Actually, they didn’t exactly do that, it seems they only banned AK-47s with bayonet lugs and flash suppressors. Face it, politics (and, for that matter, human behavior in general) is driven by emotion, not rationality – if it wasn’t, Bush wouldn’t be president. It’s a fact of life that a lot of people are afraid of guns. The flip side is there also are people who think keeping a loaded revolver under their pillow makes them safer. And then you have the “militia” nuts running around in the woods in cammies with guns, “training” for who-knows-what.
Roger it’s not the type of weapon that kills but the idiot using the weapon. You can kill anyone with a rolled up newspaper let alone an automatic weapon. The CIA favorite weapon during the cold was the newspaper. The fact that people do not like or own a weapon is that someone program them of its evil and that mass murders it can cause. They do not get to the root cause of the problem and fix it. Instead they make blanket laws that make everybody who disagrees with them criminals. Roger more people have been killed during Pease time with a 22 round weapon than any fully automatic weapon.
By the way, I have a word of advice for those guys. Whoever they’re planning to fight probably won’t be running around in woods or fields, unless they’re expecting a war with pheasants or quail. If there’s an insurrection or civil war in our country in the future, it’s going to be fought in urban settings, and you may want clothing that makes you look like a garbage can or lamp post. And, as we’re learning in Iraq, the weapon of choice for urban guerilla warfare is not firearms but explosives. Claymores are good, but C-4 is better, although you can blow stuff up with fertilizer.
Roger the most dangers weapon is fear, a film flam man that sells his lies, a media that prints half truths and lies to its citizens to induce the fears and promotes the lies. You remove the fears and expose the lies and the enemies can and will be defeated. Now you have to start by educating your citizens about what is right and wrong and that fixes the lies. Those who cannot deal with their fears send them to a Therapist, and do not empower them to run the country base on those fears.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/5/06@ 12:48 am
You claim to be a lawyer, a real person. Let’s see your letter to the editor decrying Darcy’s decision to run for office because she is …. a MOM! I can’t wait.
Commentby LeftTurn— 6/5/06@ 9:38 am
There are better things to emphasize. Such as why Darcy Burner has spent more than 3/4 of Reichert’s term in Congress running against him? If elected, will she devote any time to actually serving, or will she spend nearly all of it seeking re-election?
Burner attended law school from September 2004 to June 2005. Back in 2004, why didn’t she just run for Congress in 2004, when the seat was open, instead of spending a quixotic year in law school?
If you folks really think Reichert is so vulnerable, why don’t you put up a candidate who can give him a close race, and maybe even beat him? Someone like Dave Ross or Ross Hunter?
Richard Poop is a failed politician. (When is your next scheduled defeat Richard?) Judging from some of his ramblings with regard to the law (on at least one occasion he conflated criminal procedures with civil) he cannot be too snazzy a lawyer. (The old law practice not keeping you busy enough,Richard?)
His only hope appears to be getting on as a paid RightwingWhackjob troll. Hence, he confuses quantity for quality in his posts.
Pope I don’t care if Pee Wee Herman runs against Sheriff Davie. I’d vote for him Sheriff Davie is a Bush brown noser and bad for our state and America. We couldn’t do worse. And who runs against Sheriff Davie isn’t up to me. But hey, good job backing down from and deflecting away the fact that you want to launch a sexist attack on Darcy. And I note, you didn’t let me down and appropriately enough, do not have the courage of your convictions – much as I suspected.
Uh oh. Richard Pope just gave Reichert the kiss of death again.
Not smart taking advice from a guy who has lost so many elections, he simply cuts-and-pastes the same stuff each year for his Muni League candidates questionnaires.
Richard Poop is a failed politician.
Commentby Tree Frog Farmer— 6/5/06@ 11:18 am
So Froggy….
How many times have you had the courage to run for anything of importance???
What??? I can’t hear you???????
ZERO you say???
Gutless prick.
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“Maybe the DEPARTMENT OF PEACE – which the Washington State Democrats propose to create at the federal level – can do a better job of handling this sort of situation. Just think, had the DEPARTMENT OF PEACE existed back in 2001, they could have convinced Mohammed Atta and Osama Bin Laden not to have airplanes flown into the World Trade Center …” Commentby Richard Pope— 6/5/06@ 1:08 am
C’mon, Richard, you’re a lawyer — you can figure out that if a government truck dumps 3 tons of manure on somebody’s doorstep and then arrests them for possession of manure, it’s going to take more than the presence of the manure to establish the mens rea of the crime.
P.S., don’t worry, you don’t need to brush up on first-year crim procedure for my sake; if I ever need a defense lawyer, I’m NOT going to call YOU.