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You know if gay really is against what God wants then let him judge that when they die. No need to cast judgment now.
@1 Yeah, if God hated gays She could easily strike them down, so how come She hasn’t?
Mr. Rabbit @2: Here’s another puzzler. Did you know that the bigots say God heals stuff, but he can’t seem to heal amputees?
http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/
I’m just tired of the talibangelists trying to drag us down to their level.
I’ll visit Rodent in the hospital, and later make a pit-stop at his grave. It will be joyous!
I’ve never understood the hospital visitation rights issue. I’ve visited lots of people. Lots of people have visited me. The “are you family?” question hasn’t come up. Not once.
Who are these trogs who are turning away visitors?
When I’m hurt or dying, I want my people there to see me through. No restrictions.
@5 Why wait until I’m dead? I’ve already staked out my plot! You can stomp on it right now! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punji_stick
@6 It has to do with a federal medical privacy law passed a few years ago.
@2 More directly, if God hates gays why did She make so many of them? I mean…that would seem to be a somewhat more significant issue than the size of avocado pits.
@6 & @8
You either have to be in a state to tell the hospital you don’t mind visitors or you have to have someone with the legal right to do so let the hospital know. Otherwise the hospital can’t even tell people you’ve been admitted much less what your room number is.
Now it is possible to set up paperwork such that your unmarried partner has the right to visit you and make medical decisions for you (just like a married partner could), but not everyone goes to the trouble and hospitals often ignore such paperwork.
What about the “2 visitors per patient” rule some hospitals use?
How many visitors can a U.S. senator who poops in his own diapers have? Heard he got a nasty infection from that.
Also, it is mine and the majority’s will that diaper-pooping senators have no civil rights. We voted on it.
Majority rules.
@9
if god loves children, why did he make so many autistic?
re 13: If God loves the common man, why did he make him so common?
@14
publik skools
There is a wonderful irony in manoftruth’s mocking public education at 15. That makes my day.
Chris @ 10
Huh. Rules vary by state. Learn something new every day.
I got questions from couples about partnerships, privacy, etc. One couple said they spent ~$6k setting up the power of attorney and so forth, just so that they had the same rights as heteros.
Another man said he couldn’t visit his lifelong partner because the family objected. His partner died alone.
Sorry, but this shit pisses me off.
I understand the protection of privacy. I had to bar certain people from visiting me.
I don’t know what the end all be all answer is. But people should have their loved ones with them. And no one should have to jump through hoops.
Marvin @ 11
I have way more than 2 friends. I often had my room stuffed with well wishers. My uncle would come and play songs. (Both country and gospel, in case you forgot that you insulted my taste in music.)
If the patient shares space with other patients, then, yea, limit the number of visitors. If need be, use the “family room”.
If you’re dying, then every one gets to come in.
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Gman, lunacy is not a trait that one should aspire to.
@16
proud leftist, jews like you love the cesspools we call public schools, right? keep the goyim stupid and ignorant while we send our kids to the best schools and stay rich and buy up everything in sight. let me ask you something my brilliat friend. whats going to happen when this country collapses? who do you think people are going to blame when they cant feed their kids? who have people blamed throughout history?
Hey Adolf, it’s spelled brilliaNt.
@6
I’ve instructed all my friends that if asked they should yes, “Yes I’m his brother, sister, stepbrother…”
20
Ah, you’re killing me, man. Parody like yours is hard to come by.
@13
Incapable of loving and see value in an autistic persons life are we?
@23
i totally knew you guys would miss the point
@15 Obviously you didn’t attend public schools. It shows, too.
@24 There’s a point in there somewhere? Were you the kid who couldn’t find the pony?
re 19: If it weren’t for straight people, there would be no gay people.
I feel pretty. Is that a bad sign?
@27, my point exactly, God hates heterosexuals.
@19….did you get your rosebud stitched back up yet gman?
@28…..Im thinking gman likes to get manhandled by bears….
@24
I thought poking fun at you was the point?
31
It is the point, but manoftruth is a little slow. He doesn’t understand his role here, and trying to educate him is pointless. It’s kind of a perfect scenario–we get to shovel shit all over manoftruth and he doesn’t even recognize that he stinks.
@32
my role here is to point out that jews ruin everything they touch, especially what used to be a great country. why dont you all move to tel aviv and hope the mullahs dont drop a nuke on your heads.
I don’t think the Abrahamic interpretation (Jews, Muslims, & Christians)of the supreme being is any more likely than the Buddhists, Wiccans and other Neo-Pagans, and any other religion out there. They are all paths that lead to the same destination.
Wherever ever that is!
I’ve never understood the hospital visitation rights issue. I’ve visited lots of people. Lots of people have visited me. The “are you family?” question hasn’t come up.
Well we are living in a very new time now. At the moment, nearly all hospitals, medical and dental clinics, and other care/treatment centers are prohibiting many people from visiting patients and those being treated. If you are not an adult intimate relation with the patient, you are not going to be allowed a visit. This is due to the multiple problems associated with: MRSA, treatment-resistant TB, H1N1 and other flu strains, etc. Therefore, the issue of same-sex domestic partners is becoming much more important than it may have been a few years ago.
For the record PI (in #34), Buddhists don’t believe in supreme beings or any other such manifestations.
Whoa, Charlenes’ looking a bit manly! It maybe is Rogers sister he used to bang which is why she munches carpet now! It’s the circle of life, MMM, MMM, MMM!
Mark, go play with yourself, if you can’t offer anything more thoughtful than that.
Charlene is a remarkable woman, and she and Kate were both huge contributors to ur community. It takes courage to stand up like she has.
Why is it some of us think we can slice and dice civil rights and equal rights under the law, and some people can have them and some not? I thought all you wingnuts who always want us to say the Pledge of Allegiance in all our classrooms and public meetings all the time, believed in the “liberty and justice for all” part. Did I miss an amendment to that, that says “only the ones we approve of?”
Can we just stop for a second. Honestly stop and think forward 100 years. Does anyone, even the most conservative, REALLY honestly think people in 100 years will look back at Seattle in 2009 and think…”thank god they stopped the gays from getting married”. Or will they think, “what the hell was wrong with those folks?”
No one has EVER looked back and said, “thank god we stopped the Jews from moving into Christian neighborhood”…or “thank god we stopped blacks from marrying white women”. Well some people do. But NO ONE looks back and thinks it was a good idea to strip someone of their rights or treat them as 2/3 of a person. Think about that when you’re voting on this kind of thing. How will your great grandchildren think of you? Will you be the great man who stop the Jews/blacks/gays, or the stupid small minded jerk who just wanted to blame some other random group for all your own failings in life and use them as a scapegoat. Hmm. I think I know the answer.
I mostly agree with you David. Except I’m pretty sure manotruth withes that thing with the Jews did not happen.
Those of you who don’t actually don’t work in hospitals don’t get the big picture. People do and will lie about knowing patients. We have people who come to visit a new mom and don’t even know her last name. And since we have a locked unit, they don’t get in if they don’t at least know that. We have “relatives” that show up from across the state and who haven’t seen the patient in 10 or 15 years and think they should get to watch the birth…or even the birth of someone they don’t even know….yes I have had that question asked of me.
That being said, if the patient makes it clear who is and who is not allowed in to visit, that should be honored. And going to the trouble of actually doing that makes it much easier for the staff to honor those requests.
David posits
How are you procreating those children being gay?
Why does it have to be “like marriage”? As soon as this happens everything Puddy discussed in MASS with educating kindergartners through second graders they gay lifestyle is NORMAL will happen here. The MASS courts already told parents too bad you don’t have rights to stop schools from teaching this will be the next step in WA State. When Puddy brought this up in MASS you HA Libtardo fools said Puddy was wrong. Well this will be the next step, polluting young kids minds with propaganda.
Puddy, go home school your kids, you government free loafer.
Puddy, while you are at it, try telling them what the 10 Commandments are, and tell them to abide by them. We wouldn’t want them to be become like the rest of the Heterosexual murderers, rapists and thieves. God hates Heterosexuals.
Depends just a little on the situation. If you walk into Swedes or Northwest at 3:00 in the afternoon nobody’s very likely to hassle you, and if you know the approximate area of the hospital the person’s in (like if they broke a leg they’re probably on the orthopedic floor) you should be able to find them. When I visited my brother after he was injured a few days ago, I just walked into the lobby, told the receptionist I was his brother, and she directed me to his room without demanding any proof of who I was.
On the other hand, a few years back my Dad fell down the stairs and was taken to the Harborview ER at 11:00 on a Friday night, the armed security folks not only demanded multiple pieces of identification, but made me and my wife wait an hour and a half before assigning someone to escort us to where he was.
Admittedly, the current situation with flu is causing an additional layer of caution to be added. Some hospitals are being **really** goosey about visitation by small children, particularly in areas where patients’ immunity may already be compromised.
@43 Procreating kids is no big deal. Raising ’em is another matter entirely. Pride over parenthood is about a lot more than just proving to the world that your genitalia function as designed.