Ouch.
Conservatives who insist that electing McCain is crucial usually start, and increasingly end, by saying he would make excellent judicial selections. But the more one sees of his impulsive, intensely personal reactions to people and events, the less confidence one has that he would select judges by calm reflection and clear principles, having neither patience nor aptitude for either.
It is arguable that, because of his inexperience, Obama is not ready for the presidency. It is arguable that McCain, because of his boiling moralism and bottomless reservoir of certitudes, is not suited to the presidency. Unreadiness can be corrected, although perhaps at great cost, by experience. Can a dismaying temperament be fixed?
And that’s from conservative columnist George Will. Again, ouch.
michael spews:
And suddenly I’m starting to like George Will.
rhp6033 spews:
I often don’t agree with George Will, but I’ve always respected him. He may be too conservative and Republican for my taste, but I’ve usually found him to be intellectually honest and willing to entertain a rational discussion of both issues and philosophies of government. He reminds me of the Republicans I used to know, like Sen. Howard Baker Jr., with whom I might have differed on policy, but who had a real desire to put their country first and brought out the best aspects of the people with whom they dealt on both sides of the aisle.
Unfortunatly, those Republicans are in short supply right now, having been driven out of the Party by those demanding complete loyalty and obedience to the neo-con philosophy and the “permanant Republican majority” agenda.
rhp6033 spews:
If you read the Wall Street Journal article to which Will refers, you will see that the basis of McCain’s “ready, fire, aim” conclusion was an adversarial relationship between McCain’s economic advisor (former head of the Congressional Budget Office under the Republican Congress) and the Chair of the SEC (former neo-con Congressman and Chair of the House Ways & Means Committee).
As these things go, it appears that McCain’s economic adviser actually appeals to me more than the SEC chief. The SEC chief (in his former capacity as Congressman) had tried to get the COB to assume that the Bush tax cuts would lead to greater economic growth, thereby projecting a balanced budget in the near future. The COB head refused, apparantly well aware that the same thing was tried by David Stockman (former White House Budget Director under the Reagan administration) in what he called the now-famous “Rosy Scenario”, projecting growth beyond all rational methods of measurement. Of course, we know how that turned out – the Reagan budget deficits couldn’t be cured without tax increases during both the George H.W. Bush and the Clinton administrations eventually resulted in the budget surplus of 2000.
But McCain can’t run based upon his economic advisor taking the right side of that issue. Because if he did, he would have to agree that the budget can’t be balanced without allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire. So he’s reduced to taking aim at the SEC chief, in a not-very-well thought out attempt to re-craft his economic plan on the fly to adjust to the current crisis.
rhp6033 spews:
By the way, the Teamsters have voted to strike at the Seattle Times in a reaction to the Times attempts to out-source their jobs. The soonest an actual strike would take place is Oct. 21, potentially effecting newspaper deliveries the two weeks prior to the election. The Teamsters deliver the papers from the printing plants to the distribution centers.
I usually read my papers online anyway.
SeattleJew spews:
Patriots:
George Will, Paul Volcker, Warren Buffet, Sen. Luger, Sen. Hague,
when do we here the upraised voices of Colin Powell, Arnold Schwartznegger, Dan Evans, Arlan Spector????
are there any true patriots left in the Reprican Party?
rhp6033 spews:
It’s time to put the nail in the coffin of the McCain presidential ambitions.
The Republican Party was wrong on the Bush tax cuts, wrong on the Iraq War, wrong on deregulation, wrong on FEMA, wrong on the current financial crisis.
McCain’s trying to win the Presidency by running against his own party, but he hasn’t proven he can reform it, much less the nation as a whole. He’s tacked far to the right in an attempt to win the nomination and keep his “base” from jumping ship. His judgement and temperment are troublesome issues which even long-term conservatives like George Will are questioning.
Why should anyone give this guy the codes to the nation’s nuclear arsenal, or any say at all in the nation’s economic policy?
rhp6033 spews:
If you liked the last eight years of economic performance under the Bush administration, you will LOVE another four years of the same under a McCain administration.
Troll spews:
Now the only question is, will the doubts about McCain’s temperament and Palin’s experience be enough to offset racism that 1/3 of white Democratic voters harbor?
proud leftist spews:
I saw a McCain ad today in which Grampy rails indignantly at greed on Wall Street, and in which he puts blame on Obama for the current financial crisis and accepts none himself. That, friends, is more than just hubris or disingenuousness. It is flat out dishonesty. John McCain is a pathetic, self-absorbed pig who has no business getting anywhere near the White House.
YLB spews:
Another blank check this bunch of thieves are blackmailing the Congress for.
It’s just too terrible for words.
This election shouldn’t be close but Republicans excel at fear-mongering and of course vote suppression.
We’ll see what happens…
ArtFart spews:
8 If you mean the remainins of the southern white-sheet crowd, they all became Republicans decades ago.
If you mean the hard-hat union guys from the rust belt, they may be prejudiced but they aren’t stupid. If they understand McCain’s part of the gang that’s making their paychecks disappear, they’ll vote against him even if his opponent has pink and purple polka dots.
Tlazolteotl spews:
And it’s amazing, this is exactly the conversation I have been having with my parents about this election. More than his age, it is McCain’s seeming inflexibility of thought that causes me the most concern. I can hope Obama will surround himself with good people experienced in areas where he has less experience, and his VP pick has reinforced that. McCain, on the other hand, seems to have made an impulsive, poorly thought out decision which could have adverse consequences we would all have to live with.
My parents, in their late 60s, can use computers and email and other modern technology (GPS navigators, etc) just fine. The fact that McCain shows no interest in staying abreast of important technological and social developments of the past 30 years reflects a serious mental barrier to adapting to rapid change, and I really don’t think this is something the country can afford right now. We need an executive with an adaptable, flexible mindset.
proud leftist spews:
11
Troll is referring to himself.
michael spews:
@12
My dad’s in his mid-70’s and can barely use a computer. However, he can use the radar and fish finder on his boat just fine. If you see a use for something, you figure out how it works.
michael spews:
@6
From what I heard McCain wanted Joe Lieberman for his VP and went with Palin after the party blocked him from picking Lieberman. The man couldn’t even pick his own VP.
Don Joe spews:
PBS’ NewsHour did a piece on McCain’s decision-making. Read the whole section under “McCain favors intuition over debate.”
In McCain’s own words:
I’ve said it before, but that kind of maverick is great to have in the Senate. Shakes things up a bit, and keeps everyone on their toes.
Putting that kind of maverick in the White House is a recipe for disaster even worse than Bush II has been. No deliberation, no consideration of opposing views, barely any effort made to ascertain all the relevant facts and not a single principle in sight.
It’s one thing when Senator McCain is the one who has to face the consequences of his decisions. Turn him into President McCain, and the rest of us will end up facing the consequences of his decisions.
westello spews:
I am glad this got posted (I just read it myself this morning). George Will has been going on for weeks about how Palin is qualified, McCain has the chops and now, it is slowing dawning and Will and other conservatives how McCain doesn’t have the temprament to be President.
Also from his column:
“In any case, McCain’s smear — that Cox “betrayed the public’s trust” — is a harbinger of a McCain presidency. For McCain, politics is always operatic, pitting people who agree with him against those who are “corrupt” or “betray the public’s trust,” two categories that seem to be exhaustive — there are no other people.”
Is this not the mindset of Palin as well? People are either for her or against her (and if she can she gets rid of anyone in her way who won’t take a loyalty oath)? This is what needs to get out there.
Troll makes a point – there is racism out there. The NY Times had an article interview yet another group from the “heartland” – Ohio, Michigan, Minnesota (take your pick) and out of 6 couples, 1 was an out and out racist (“What happens to the White House – does it become the Black house?”). The rest said they voted for Kerry, voted for Clinton but…can’t vote for Obama because of the abortion issue. And, oh yeah, they’re not racists. Sure, go to confession and keep telling yourself that.
And they would turn the country over to the same idiots that have put us in this time and place we currently sit in.
Also in the NY Times Business section (should have been on the front page), was a scathing assessment of the legislation to get the economy under control. From that article:
““Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency,” the original draft of the proposed bill says.
And with those words, the Treasury secretary — whoever that may be in a few months — will be with vested with perhaps the most incredible powers ever bestowed on one person over the economic and financial life of the nation. It is the financial equivalent of the Patriot Act.”
and further:
“But given the rush to push the bill through, even if Congress cobbles together some oversight language, it will almost surely be inadequate. Joshua Rosner, a managing director at Graham Fisher & Company, says TARP should stand for “Total Abdication of Responsibility to the Public.” He says it is “a clear abdication of all Congressional oversight and fiscal authorities to a secretary of Treasury that has bungled this crisis from the beginning.”
He argues that the bill grants “greater powers to the secretary of the Treasury than even the president enjoys.”
The bigger issue is that the bill effectively creates protections not just for the Treasury, but for the executives on Wall Street who created this near Armageddon. Mr. Rosner says that the draft bill “prevents judicial review that could allow the protection of decisions that create false marks, hide prior marks, or could be used to prevent civil or criminal prosecution in situations where a management knowingly provided false marks that aided the growth of this crisis of confidence.”
We need to make sure our Congressional reps know that we will not stand for this and that the rest of our fellow Americans know what’s coming if we elect more Republicans to the White House.
Marvin Stamn spews:
And still no posts about how great a candidate obama is.
Just another thread about mcsame.
Marvin Stamn spews:
Obama says mcsame is a reformer?
Oh yeah, that’s part of obama’s judgement that can’t be trusted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjrSjtdfc_I
YLB spews:
That goes without saying. We’d rather put dipshits like you on the defensive about your candidate: McSame.
Fitting justice after the last eight years.
Don Joe spews:
And still no posts about how great a candidate obama is.
Why should we waste our time telling people like you that the sky is blue and the grass is green?
blue john spews:
Because Marvin, the thread is about McCain is not “not suited to the presidency”. Please try to stay focused.
YLB spews:
The McSame Campaign has kept Sarah Palin under wraps from the media because the more people learn about her same-as-Bush governing style in Alaska, the more people fear for their future.
Who would want Bush-in-a-skirt one heartbeat away from a 72 year old cancer survivor?
RobertSeattle spews:
After years of true conservatives basically saying “Bush may really really really really really suck – but but a Democrat would be worse” – the true conservatices are finally realizing that the modern Bush/Cheney/McCain Republican party truly sucks.
I-Burn spews:
@24
You may be right about that. I have doubts about this particular Democrat (Obama) being the one for whom Conservatives will vote, however.
rhp6033 spews:
The McCain campaign (with a lot of assistance from the White House) arranged for “meetings” with a handful of foreign leaders prior to the UN meetings starting today. It was all designed to get around the fact that she had not, in fact, met with any foreign leader prior to this point, at any time in her career.
They wanted it to be a photo op, but then shoo everyone outside (after the pictures and video feed) so no one could hear the discussion. They were obviously afraid that Palin would make some gaffe, and they didn’t want any public record of it. The Associated Press and other news agencies objected, and CNN threatened to pull out althogether, until they agreed to let reporters into the meeting. Then they let the reporters and cameramen in just long enough to here the new Pakistani President make a comment about his son, and Palin asks his son’s name, and the President responds, and then everyone get’s shood out of the meeting again. Afterwards, McCain campaign people have the temerity to deny that reporters were ever excluded from the meeting, calling it a “communication error”.
rhp6033 spews:
What’s it been – three weeks since Palin’s nomination was announced? In that time Palin has had TWO press interviews (Charles Gibson and Sean Hannity), and NO press conferences. In the same time period, Biden has had over 40 press conferences and multiple interviews, including stints on “Meet the Press” and other shows which actually ask some pretty hard-hitting questions.
The McCain campaign is facing a delimma. They need Palin on the road with McCain because McCain, by himself, doesn’t bring out any crowds. But before they knew who was being picked, they had previously planned on the VP nominee mostly sticking to fund-raisers. And they have to put her through “school”, tutoring her on the basics of foreign relations and the national government so she doesn’t create any big gaffes during her debate. So what’s the best use of her limited time: McCain rallies? fundraising? debate preparation? No wonder they decided to skip the Troopergate investigation.
I-Burn spews:
@26
There have been some very successful vice-presidents who went on to be outstanding presidents. Not comparing the two, but TR, for example, became one of the greatest presidents, and had very little national/international experience when he became president.
rhp6033 spews:
True enough. Or you could get another Tyler, who did more than his share to ensure that we had a Civil War.
But if you have to take a risk, doesn’t it make sense to reduce that risk as much as possible? If you were an impartial hiring director for the VP job and comparing resumes, without considering political ideology, would you even schedule an interview for Palin?
I was in Japan three weeks ago when the Prime Miinister resigned, and I asked my colleagues there who was in charge. They didn’t really understand the question. It turns out that – no one is in charge. Decisions are made by consensus anyway, so it doesn’t really matter. A new Prime Minister will be selected in a few weeks, and he will be in charge then.
They wanted to know why I thought it was important. I explained that unlike Japan, we have a nuclear arsenal, and we need to know who has authority to “push the button”. They were somewhat horrified that only one person could make such a decision. But they agreed that it was very important that the person in charge be selected very carefully. But they couldn’t quite understand how our election accomplishes that purpose. I had to agree.
rhp6033 spews:
(Quote from George Will column today).
So with Palin, we have inexperience, PLUS a temperment problem, as evidenced by her operation of the Waslilla and Alaska governments. Doesn’t sound like a good combination to me.
rhp6033 spews:
DJIA is down again, -161.52 closing at 10,854.17.
While the McCain campaign is becoming panicky over the impact this will have on the Presidential election, the Bush administration is worried about it’s legacy. The DJIA is posed at just about 300 points above it’s level when the Bush Presidency began, almost eight years ago. If it falls below that level for any significant period of time, Bush will be the ONLY president since WWII to have a negative Dow growth over the course of two consecutive terms of office (eight years).
ArtFart spews:
Another new story out about Palin is that after weeks of stonewalling the Alaska legislature, she’s agreed to allow an investigation of “troopergate” as long as it’s conducted by someone she can fire.
Kinda sounds like Richard Nixon with boobs.
Sorry…I actually agree that we have more important things to do than “Palin-bashing”, but dammitall, she’s providing some awfully good snicker-fodder.
ArtFart spews:
In another little indication of the wonderful state of our economy, McDonald’s has let it be known that because Bank of America’s cut back their credit line, some of their franchisees are faced with the prospect of serving their much-ballyhooed espresso–only if the franchise owners buy the equipment on their own.
mark spews:
Rush referred todays meeting of our esteemed
Senate as the “Hindsight hearings”. Damn
funny.
Right Stuff spews:
Ooooh OUCH!
Of course this is the opionion of an inside the beltway, coctail party journalist..Whom I like..
While McCain can’t like this..OBAMA has to hate his own running mate calling him out as not ready to lead!!!!!! not to mention President Clinton…….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMYty1PgHEg
George will calling out McCain….OK……VP pick Biden and DEMOCRAT Pres Clinton calling out Obama…….priceless.
Republican Suicide spews:
Wrong Stuff, in your floundering, flailing, sputtering attempt to make lemon aid out of lemons, you have completely missed the point.
Biden and Clinton were commenting during a heated primary contest.
McCain being called out by the Republican’s for not having the temperament to be president is happening NOW!
And as your friend George Will stated: Inexperience can be corrected, an unsuitable temperament cannot.
But those are just facts, don’t let them get in the way of your floundering, flailing, and sputtering death throes.
Troll spews:
I’m referring to the recent AP/Yahoo News/Stanford University poll that shows 1/3 of white Democrats are racists.
http://news.bostonherald.com/n.....position=2
Rocktober Surprise spews:
The COB? Temprament? Sen. Hague? What does it all mean? Are any of you libtards sober or sane?
As for the Tlaz spaz about Gramps not getting down with high tech, word on the street is that McCain was too tortured to type.
Rocktober Surprise spews:
Racist Democrats … suspicions confirmed.
Republican Suicide spews:
@ 39
That would explain them nominating Obama for President.
Man, the wingnut trolls just get dumber and dumber.
Right Stuff spews:
I especially like the cartoon. “is that your business card? No, it’s my resume'”…
@36 Oh so I guess in the MONTHS since Biden and Clinton said this, Obama suddenly became ready?…………….
nice try but it wasn’t some columnist opining about Obama, it was his RUNNING MATE….
Once more for fun.
OUCH!
Steve spews:
@38 “word on the street is that McCain was too tortured to type”
There’s just no end to the troll bullshit spewed here.
Rocktober Surprise spews:
Old Biden says the darndest things.
Remember that ‘Crats almost didn’t nominate Obama for anything. He had a hot streak from about February 5 thru about February 18, then lost almost everything to the whitest woman in America.
You know, the pasty white pudgy carpetbag senator who groveled to ‘white Americans, hard working Americans’ while her boy, Bill, was crawling thru the racist gutter in Carolina.
Rocktober Surprise spews:
Amazing, Steve. You actually got thru an entire post without going postal about pedos.
Republican Suicide spews:
@ 41… uh, do you want us to recap the comments made concerning McCain by the Republicans during the primary? That may explain why McCain chose Palin. She was the only Republican who had not already eviscerated McSame.
Worng Stuff, keep up the floundering, flailing, and sputtering… it amuses me.
Reformed republican spews:
@28: Teddy Roosevelt vs SArah Palin?
He was Secretary of the Navy, led troops in battle up San Juan hill and was governor of NY.
Sarah Palin? Doesn’t know what the bush doctrine is, thinks she “knows” Russia since it is close to Alaska and is an “expert” on oil who argues Alsaka should export more of our oil to the global market (and that will help us!!)so the rest of the US won’t get it….yup, they are really comparable, TR and Ol’ Sarah. I can really see TR not meeting with the press for fear of a real question. Hahahahaha
Troll spews:
@40
Stanford University is getting dumber and dumber for conducting a poll that found that 1/3 of white Democrats are racist?
Republican Suicide spews:
@ 43, RS, It is impossible to “almost not nominate” someone.
But you wouldn’t understand that. That would require living in the world of reality.
Your attempts at race baiting fail miserably. The Democrats have nominated a black man for President, and your racist self projections will never change that.
You’ll just have to deal with the death of your favorite myth.
Now go cry in the corner, you are disturbing the adults.
My Goldy Itches spews:
“Why, look at all them tall buildings!”
-Sarah Palin, upon arriving in Manhattan.
Reformed republican spews:
Yup – us Democrats sure are racist for nominating a black man. I guess we are also for unnecessary wars because Obama was against Iraq, for CEO golden parachutes like McCain because Obama has come out against that and …..I just love republican trolls. They have a remarkable ability to mistte the obvious.
My favorite republican nonsense lately has been to blame the democrats for deregulation. As if the republicans have not been crying for deregulation and cheering for the free market for the last 20 years since Reagan. How dumb do they think people are?
Rocktober Surprise spews:
No, TR was Assistant Secretary of the Navy.
No, Palin did not flub the Bush Doctrine. Krauthammer says he gave the doctrine a name in early 2001, and operationalized it as abrogation of the ABM Treaty and opposition to Kyoto. That was lone, perhaps, before preemption and muscular expansionist democracy (speaking of TR) were gleams in Bush’s beady eye.
Troll spews:
“God damn America!”
Obama’s pastor, Rev. Wright.
Isn’t there video of Obama in the audience when that was said, and Obama stood up and applauded?
Republican Suicide spews:
@ 47, no Troll, I said the wingnut trolls are getting dumber and dumber. Pay attention.
Troll spews:
@50
Read the article, dumb dumb. It says that once you Democratic racists get realize you’re about to elect a black man president, you’re going to think twice about it and vote your race.
I always knew some of my fellow Democrats were some of the biggest racists around.
Rocktober Surprise spews:
Yep, you ‘Crats sure are racists. You diptards made the Bradley Effect as effective as it is.
As for golden chutes, shoooooooot! Barack Obama, BO, cashes in from Fannie and Freddie ($500,000 in 2 years!) and then brings on the Democrat (neo)cons who conned Fannie & Freddie into the ground.
The subprime plantation was a sinecure for deserving Democrats from Obama to Dodd to Raines to Gorelick (sp?). Nice pay out, if you can get it.
westello spews:
I found it interesting that on The View McCain said Palin was the “greatest” vice presidential nominee ever and she asked him if Palin was a better pick than…John Adams.
Priceless. (McCain said maybe he should watch out for hyperbole. Really? Ya think?)
Rocktober Surprise spews:
Assisted Suicide: Yes, you almost did not nominate BO. That’s why the death march to Denver pretty much went down to the wire.
@51 should be “that was long before …”
Republican Suicide spews:
No, but isn’t there a video where McCain raped and ate a 2 year old in front of their white Christian family in Pennsylvania?
And one where Palin shot a state trooper in the face when he gave her a speeding ticket?
There may also be one where McCain was caught telling a lobbyist that he “hated all these moronic republican supporters who carry water for him on the blogs, and he could not wait for the chance to separate the morons from their money.
Yeah, aren’t there are a bunch of those vidoes?
Republican Suicide spews:
@ 57 “almost did not nominate BO” “death march to Denver pretty much went down to the wire”
Jebus Chipes! There really are morons who listened to Rush and Hannity and actually BELIEVED the lies!!!
No, RS, none of those things happened, except in you kool-aid drunk mind.
Rocktober Surprise spews:
Suicide is Painless: Remember the disfranchisement of Michigan & Florida? And why it mattered?
Mattered because Obama lost his mojo about two weeks after Groundhogs’ Day. He popped up and lost. And lost again. And lost again. Must have been because all those compassionate tolerant white Democrats were (in Fr. Pflager’s memorable phrase) starting to worry about the Black Man.
Speaking of, is it racist for c. 95% of blacks to vote for the black man?
Rocktober Surprise spews:
Rush is not my muse. Dodd is not my copilot.
So there.
Troll spews:
Remember these prophetic words:
White Democratic racists (which are 1/3 of the party, according to Stanford University), will jump to McCain on November 4th.
(Black readers, ignore date above. Election day is Wednesday, November 5. Remember to vote!)
Republican Suicide spews:
@ 60
Remember that we had a primary? Yes, we did.
And then a unified Democratic party met in Denver and decidedly (not “almost not” that is an impossibility) nominated Obama (a black man) for President.
I dunno, ask PuddyBud.
But it just seems to me it would be stupid for a black American to vote Republican.
Rocktober Surprise spews:
Hire the Hannity-capped: Rush & Sean had sugarplum dreams of Denver riots. They hoped the Clinton Crime Family would push Michigan and Florida into deadlock and a brokered convention. That, as you correctly imply, did not happen. Not even ReCreate ’68 could recreate ’68.
Still, it was a close-run thing: Obama and Clinton at almost-parity.
Give Senator Obama credit, tho, for beating the stupid Clintons at their own stupid game.
Rocktober Surprise spews:
Almost not suicide: Read history. We Republicans are the Civil Rights party. (Bruce Bartlett, in his recent book about Democrat racism, demonstrates that not even Nixon’s Southern Strategy was racist, because Democrat George Wallace had the racist demographic cornered in 1968.)
Etc.
Rocktober Surprise spews:
San Juan suicide: Am told it was Kettle Hill, but why let facts get in the way of a Democrat?
Troll spews:
While I have personally never seen the video of Obama giving a standing ovation to Rev. Wright when he damns America, or seen the video of Obama’s father being trained in an Al-Qaeda training camp in Pakistan, I have seen it reported that Barack Obama, in his first 100 days as president, will sign an executive order giving reparations to all Illegal Immigrants and African Americans in the form of a check totally $258,000 per year for life. “One thousand dollars for every year there was slavery in America.”
And that is a direct quote.
YLB spews:
Delightful! Exactly why Ronnie Raygun chose to broadcast dog whistles in Philadelphia, Mississippi.
After that it was a no-brainer which party David Duke would choose to go “straight” as it were.
Steve spews:
Has Palin’s preacher gone back to driving demonic witches out of the villages of Africa? Crazy.
Wasn’t Palin’s AIP leader buried in the Yukon because he hated America so much? What up with that Palin America-hating shit?
What’s with this rumor I’ve heard that Todd Palin fucks moose skulls by candlelight? Is that batshit crazy or what?
Democrat Sewerslide spews:
Check Bartlett, mentioned above, for the rest of the story re Philadelphia, Miss.
Bartlett, who served (in) Reagan’s administration, makes a strong conservative case for reparations. For what it’s worth, Bartlett also makes a strong case for Obama; Bartlett’s an Obamacon.
So, apparently, is the twit George Will, who talks a great game of baseball.
Your comment about David Duke is, like most of your comments, beneath contempt.
Democrat Sewerslide spews:
Attaboy, Steve. Don’t hide your inner fuckshit.
Troll spews:
@70, do you agree with Obama that we should “give reparations to undocumented immigrants?” (Illegal Aliens)
Democrat Sewerslide spews:
No! Hell no! Nor do I agree with Bartlett. Just sayin’ that he makes the case from the right.
Democrat Sewerslide spews:
Must be a problem with my machine. Headline on the previous thread sez ‘McCain Details New Economic Plan’ ….. and then there’s about five inches of empty space.
Steve spews:
LMFAO. Republican Bob Allen was convicted for offering to pay $20 to blow a black cop in a Florida park toilet. What the fuck is up with Republicans and public toilets??
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.c.....convi.html
This has been another edition of “Puddy’s Heroes”.
Democrat Sewerslide spews:
@67. Oh, haven’t you heard? Senator O warmed the pew for only 20 years, more or less. He heard nothing, saw nothing, knew nothing.
And bought nothing. As Bill O reminded Senator O, the stuff was being sold in the Trinity lobby.
Democrat Sewerslide spews:
@75: Well, private toilets would be elitist. We had to nationalize them and bail them out.
Democrat Sewerslide spews:
Steve is even better in stereo! A post so very damn dy-no-mite he posted it twice!
(And what’s up with you and kink? You worry me, son.)
Steve spews:
Palin and her preacher, end-timers, last days, goatfuckers, etc. LMFAO. Let’s give her the fucking nuke code!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Steve spews:
“And what’s up with you and kink?”
That’s Republican kink, son, which amounts to some really strange shit.
Troll spews:
“There are reports that Barack Obama’s father, Hassan Janjaweed Obama, died on the battlefields of Afghanistan fighting against U.S. soldiers.”
And that is a direct quote.
Who thw Hell Dropped Puddybud on his head? spews:
@ 67
While I have personally never seen the video of McCain eating a 4 year old child in front of their white christian family, or seen the video of Palin shooting a cop for giving her a traffic ticket I have seen it reported that John McCain, in his first 100 days as president, will sign an executive order for the killing of every republican troll who carried water for his campaign. He said it was because they are obviously so stupid and easily fooled that they presented a danger for all other sentient beings.
And that is a direct quote.
WHo the Hell ropped Troll on his head? spews:
“There are reports that John McCain told Al Queda the positions of US Soldiers in Iraq during one of his visits to Afghanistan, resulting in the deaths of countless US Soldiers.”
And that is a direct quote.
K spews:
troll, the one who makes up lies.
Reformed republican spews:
@65
The operative word for republicans and civil rights is HISTORY. Republicans were the party of civil rights – but certainly are not anymore. The southern strategy and Nixon changed that.
No one believes that republicans are for civil rights, just like no one believes republicans are for deregulation. It just ain’t so.
Laszlo Toth, Jr. spews:
“…word on the street is that McCain was too tortured to type.”
That’s John Kerry McCain for ya, always putting the “word on the street” with his buddy journalists about how bad it was for him… I wonder if anyone will give him a band aid?
Democrat Sewerslide spews:
Did I stutter? The operative word is are: Republicans are the Civil Rights party.
And note again that Bartlett brooms your tired tripe about Nixon and his ‘Southern Strategy.’
More trivia to pursue: Republicans nominated and elected, with a big push from newly enfranchised uppity women, America’s First Black President in 1920. We’d have nominated and elected America’s Second Black President in 1996 if Alma’d let him run.
(Has anyone here read On the Laps of Gods, by Whitaker? Amazing book about the Democrat war against sharecroppers in 1919. But that’s history.)