Dumbfuck’s favorite black man since he found out he exists a couple months back isn’t going to be his favorite anymore. There’s always Herschel Walker.
Just this week on ‘Guttfeld!’.
“Let the record show, I totally agree with Robert De Niro. I am one of the people who suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome,” Charlamagne said in an interview on Fox News. “I think he is a threat to democracy.”
“I think that he led an attempted coup of this country,” he added, likely referencing Trump’s role in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.
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Vicious Trollspews:
@ 1
Looking forward to tha God’s forthcoming full-throated endorsement of my cowardly, corrupt, incompetent, senile fossil of a president.
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Vicious Trollspews:
Just short of $35 million raised by the Trump campaign since the verdict. And 30% of the donors are new.
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Independent Votersspews:
Texas goes Blue.
The Texas supreme court on Friday rejected a challenge from more than 20 women who said they were denied medically necessary abortions under the state’s near-total abortion ban, ruling in an unanimous opinion* that the state’s ban can stand as is.
Two doctors had also joined the women’s case, which was the first post-Roe v Wade lawsuit to be filed by women who said that their health, lives or fertility had been endangered by abortions bans. Lawsuits filed by women in other states with near-total abortion bans, including Idaho and Tennessee, soon followed.
*all nine Texas Supreme Court Justices are Republicans.
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Vicious Trollspews:
In a poll in which Democrat respondents outnumber Republican respondents by a 48-23 margin, you’d think Biden would have a lead larger than 6 points.
InteractivePolls
@IAPolls2022
📊 NEW YORK GE: Emerson/The Hill
In 2020 Biden won NY state by 23 points. He’s now up 6.
I’d be worried if I were a Democrat.
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Vicious Trollspews:
@ 5
“Because the trial court’s order opens the door to permit abortion to address any pregnancy risk, it is not a faithful interpretation of the law.”
Try the lawsuit again after making fatties drop 50# before getting knocked up.
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Elijah Dominic McFuckheadspews:
Under current law a convicted felon may not obtain a top level security clearance to have access to national defense information.
Candidate daily security briefings normally provided once the candidate has received their party’s nomination will now be substantially modified to redact all national defense information from the briefings.
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Keep Falling for the Liesspews:
@3
And…poof. It’s gone. Legal fees and all that.
Also, we’ll see what it really is when the FEC filings come in. Smells a lot like a $15B Trump Golf course in the Yukon.
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Not the NY Postspews:
Generally the only people with 34 losses in New York by May are the Mets.
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Securities and Exchange Commissionspews:
Elon
great damage was done today to the public’s faith in the American legal system
Yes, you should probably be concerned with people getting convicted for falsifying accounting statements.
Trump’s likelihood of taking NV really should be well above 51%. He’s had recent polling of 13%, 9%, 8% leads there.
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Elijah Dominic McFuckheadspews:
10,
Such an opaque claim leaves us to wonder.
I can only assume in the case of an incompetent, trust fund plutocrat like Musk that what he thinks has been “damaged” is any presumption that people like him should be held above the law.
He gives us nothing else to work with. And that makes the most sense.
Of course Trump’s MAGA victims, who are all well accustomed to performative groveling and cult-like worship, will feel aggreived by this crushing defeat. But though they will claim it was “unfair”, like Musk they’ll offer less than nothing on which to pin that claim.
Because for the most part they don’t believe it.
That fundamental internal conflict between the messaging and the underlying belief tends to produce cognitive dissonance.
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Vicious Trollspews:
There will be commercials during the CNN presidential debate.
You didn’t think Biden was just going to stand there without dropping the mask for 90 minutes straight, did you?
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Elijah Dominic McFuckheadspews:
With the looming prospect that the convicted felon Republican nominee is likely to face an all-Black panel for the appeal of his conviction, he should have done more to bury the now widespread reports about his frequent use of that word while he was starring in an NBC reality television show.
But it’s always been this way, hasn’t it?
The weakest element of the prosecution, the difficulty of proving that he personally approved the fraud, was entirely confirmed by his own stupid fat mouth frequently confessing those elements of the crimes. “Statements against self-interest” should be featured on his business cards.
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And now the focus shifts row Election Interference and Dissemination of Classified documents to hostile foreign powers if he didn34 felonies surely he Don 60-80spews:
@2
Like many who are telling pollsters in April/May they’re ’undecided’ or RFK Jr. because Biden hasn’t done ‘enough’ are looking at Convicted Felon Donald Trump and what his policies actually are and will vote for Joe.
I inderstand how much reality upsets you.
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Elijah Dominic McFuckheadspews:
Are Americans really still expecting a pivot?
After everything they’ve ssen can mainstreamers really still expect that kind of substance and strength of character from Republican voters?
Republicans are a group of Americans who have consistently demonstrated a level of obsequiousness, servility, and denial unprecedented in American history since the slave states declared a rebellion. They will continue on this path of destruction. They won’t “come to their senses”. We can only hope that a percentage of them will simply lose interest in the project of destruction that they have embarked upon and withhold their votes from a convicted felon.
It’s up to the rest of us to avoid the catastrophe. It always has been.
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Old Man Yells at Cloudsspews:
This is what happens when your mind goes soft and you sleep through a trial.
(The judge) wouldn’t allow us to have our elections expert we Elections expert respected election expert head of the Federal Elections Commission he was all set to testify he was waiting for two days and when it was his turn, they said “Wait.” Brag’s people objected and this judge knocked him right out. This trial was about a Federal election not a state election”
The poor old sod thinks he’s doing the Georgia case.
He would go on to mention the #1 rated FEC Chair or Most respects FEC Chair ever five more times.
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Sad armchair lawyer defends the felon.spews:
I can hear Dumbfuck already , “But they DID try to call the witness”. And that was ruled not relevant as the case was about bookkeeping.
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Elijah Dominic McFuckheadspews:
“The trial was political.”
Okay. Other than the fact that convicted felon Donald Trump himself was so outspoken and aggressive in his constant shouting before and during the trial that it was necessarry to impose a gag order on him to protect the jury and to protect his rights to due process, what exactly was supposed to be “political” about it?
He was accused of a serious crime. There was sufficient evidence presented to a grand jury over a period of three months at the beginning of last year to convince that grand jury to hand down an indictment indicating their agreement that it should be decided at trial. The crimes charged are crimes that are frequently charged in New York. Over 10,000 FBS charges brought in the last ten years. The most serious, and when the statutory elements are present, are charged as felonies. Those most serious felonies typically result in a custodial sentence. There’s nothing political about any of that.
In June of 2023 convicted felong Donald Trump filed a motion to have the trial removed to federal court. In July federal judge Alvin Hellerstein denied that motion ruling that “Trump has failed to show that the conduct charged by the Indictment is for or relating to any act performed by or for the President under color of the official acts of a President.” He was not setting up fake business records to conceal hush money payments as part of his official duties as President.
He got a short delay on his trial schedule to consider evidence newly released from the SDNY. He filed more than a dozen motions for dismissal between July and April. Got hearings for all of them. Got denied. Many of those full motion hearings were to consider claims as thin and legally fictional as that the DA is “pursuing a delluded fantasy”. Others simply argued that facing trial would inconvenience the defendant while he was also campaigning for elected office. On three separate occasions by three different NY Appellate Judges the convicted felon Trump had his last minute motions for dismissal or delay denied.
Of about sixty prospective jurors available for his trial, every single one selected to serve was approved by convicted felon Trump’s own defense attorneys after careful public examination and interrogation in Trump’s presence. Not a single one of the twelve jurors who sat in deliberation and eventually found Trump guilt on all 34 felony counts was ever objected to by the defense attorneys or by Trump himself. None of these jurors were known to each other in any way before the trial nor to any party taking part in the trial, neither the defendant, the judge, the attorneys for the people, the attorneys for the defense, or any of the witnesses.
If any part of the evidence, the documents entered into evidence, or the witness testimony was overtly or even slightly political or partisan in nature I have yet to hear about it. These were business invoices, checks, check memos, and receipts, phone calls about those payments, text messages about the payments, and witness recollections about the payments and the purposes of the payments.
The jury retired to weigh the evidence and after ten hours of careful deliberation delivered the vedict that Trump was guilty of all 34 felonies charged.
“The trial was political” is now just a thing these people say to avoid facing who they are and what they have done. Nobody should let that go. It’s no different than the still ongoing claim from Republicans that the 2020 election “was rigged”. It was not. And at least now whenever one of the MAGAturds says “the 2020 election was rigged” every responsible journalist immediately responds by saying “that is not true”. This should be no different.
“The trial was political” is a vague lie that should never go unchallenged. There was nothing political about any part of that prosecution or that trial.
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Elijah Dominic McFuckheadspews:
LOCK HER HIM UP!
Whaddya know?
Turns out pronouns matter after all.
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Vicious Trollspews:
I think the biggest problem is that the judge allowed the prosecutor to repeatedly claim that Trump broke federal law during his closing. That’s never been alleged by the DOJ.
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Vicious Trollspews:
@ 17
Like many who are telling pollsters in April/May they’re ’undecided’ or RFK Jr. because Biden hasn’t done ‘enough’ are looking at Convicted Felon Donald Trump and what his policies actually are and will vote for Joe.
1. How does Trump’s conviction increase Biden’s accomplishments?
2. What’s your evidence that not voting for Trump equates to a vote for Biden, rather than 1) leaving the presidential choice blank 2) voting for a candidate from a third party 2) staying home?
If they wanted RFK Jr. because Biden hasn’t done enough, how does the verdict change that?
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Vicious Trollspews:
Having seen his little remaining dignity fleeced by the Democrat party after agreeing to sign the misnamed Inflation Reduction Act only to watch the Democrats renege on their side of the deal, Joe Manchin has decided he’s no longer a Democrat.
I wonder if he realizes that he’s no longer relevant, too.
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Elijah Dominic McFuckheadspews:
@23,
Money spent by a federal candidate in furtherance of their political campaign must be disclosed in federal campaign finance statements. Deliberately misclassifying a federal campaign expense as a private business related legal expense if a violation of federal law.
The Tacopina defense was a failure not only because Joe Tacopina is a shitty lawyer who was incredibly out of his depth, but also because the evidence clearly demonstrated that the purposes of the payments and the record keeping fraud was to interfere with the election. It was campaign related. Convicted felon Trump did not give one single shit who knew he was fucking around and barebacking sex workers. He introduced them to his celebrity pals. He refused to wear condoms. He brought him around his security details.
And it also fails because Trump himself made and published public statements admitting that the campaign needed to keep the stories out of the media.
It finally fails because of the timeline, the nature and the structuring of the payments. Edwards continued paying Hunter after his campaign was already suspended.
In any case, this is a legal, technical objection and goes to the finding of fact by the jury. So it has nothing to do with politics and certainly nothing to do with the politics of the judge. The NY statute for the class E felony of falsification of business records requires that the jury find a separate criminal purpose behind the offense. It spells out that the separate criminal purpse does not have to be established by a separate criminal conviction, but only has to be proved to the jury in the present case. The people’s closing included an argument to the jury about violations of federal campaign disclosure laws because it was part of the case as defined by the statute.
Try an example.
Let’s say your are employed in NY by a federal contractor and your job includes entering records of business transactions for your employer. Let’s say deliberately misclassify an entry of an expense as a routine payment for legal work that was really a bribe to a federal contract officer. NY will charge you with the class E felony. Bribing a federal contract officer is a federal offense. That’s up the the local US Attorney. That office has its own procedures, standards, and requirements. It convenes its own grand juries. And it negotiates its own agreements. They don’t consult NY. Nevertheless, the underlying criminal violation supporting the class E felony can be that federal crime, even if it is never actually charged by that United States Attorney. NY just has to prove to your jury that you falsified the business record to cover up a bribe of a federal official.
The NY randomly chosen and carefully screened NY jury weghed the people’s evidence and came to the conclusion that in all 34 cases where a business record was falsified surrounding these payments to sex workers, the underlying reasons for the falsifications were themselves criminal. That’s a finding of fact arising from due process.
Appeal that if you can. I doubt it gets you anywhere in NY.
I’m always prepared to concede to magically constructive thinking on the part of the deeply corrupt fed soc puppets on the Roberts Supreme Court. But it calls for them to engage in more than just re-writing New York state law. They have to substitute themselves for a NY state jury.
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What an asshole. Must be a Republican..spews:
Joe Manchin has decided he’s no longer a Democrat.
What kind of “not Democrat” votes to increase IRS funding? And was reportedly in favor of raising corporate taxes after the drumpf “raises all levels” tax scam exploded the debt.
knock, knock, knock…
whatever.. good riddance to the “not a liberal”…
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Vicious Trollspews:
@ 27
good riddance to the “not a liberal”
Indeed. The Democrat party spent the better part of two decades causing its Blue Dogs to quit or lose re-election bids. Those who tried to remake themselves into something acceptable to the party ended up embarrassing themselves in the process – I’m talking about you, Evan Bayh and Charlie Crist.
Now Democrats support Hamas’ efforts to kill Jews and the efforts of dudes who can’t compete with their own gender to kick the asses of girls instead, merely by claiming to identify as a girl themselves.
They’ve certainly done their share to ensure that voters have a clear choice between two alternatives, those Democrats have.
Good.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@2 This morning your “cowardly, corrupt, incompetent, senile fossil of a president”
noted pointedly Friday that Donald Trump was found guilty by a unanimous jury, and he slammed the former president’s attempts to cast the case against him as politically motivated as “reckless,” “dangerous” and “irresponsible”
@3 Nothing new about this. MAGAts hate their money and have lined up for years to shower dollars on Trump. Then like this guy they complain they’re poor because of “Bidenflation.”
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@4 Texas Republicans have no intention of standing idly by and watching women die from pregnancy complications.
For years I told whoever would listen that we have a good thing going here in America — our domestic peace and tranquility, prosperity, and freedom — but can’t take it for granted because a Hitler can happen here, too.
Trust me, doc, I’m worried because that’s no longer only a theoretical possibility. The venality, stupidity, and lack of patriotism of voters like you makes it a clear and present danger.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@10 The people whose faith in the American legal system is “damaged” by Trump’s conviction (and whose faith in America’s elections previously was “damaged” by his election loss) would follow a dictator in a heartbeat. Elon is one of them.
Frankly, I don’t give a shit what those people think. I used to believe in listening to the other side and trying to bridge differences through compromise, but there’s nothing here to listen to except screeching morons who have nothing intelligent to say, and it’s a mistake to cut deals with mobs.
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Elijah Dominic McFuckheadspews:
33,
I’m willing to listen. And I’ll even cut deals.
I just refuse to engage with these assholes on false premises, bad faith arguments, or paranoid conspiracy theories. And I think that’s a growing problem for Republicans. Because with each passing day that Trump and MAGA are in control of the GOP the party’s communications and negotiating positions are more exclusively defined by false premises, bad faith, and paranoia.
Let’s fix immigration. But we can’t do that by building a fucking wall. Let’s balance the budget. But I won’t pretend we can do that with tax cuts.
I think there are areas of policy on which Democrats can reach agreements with Republicans and I think the recent history has demonstrated that. There’s a long and difficult road ahead that will often require Democrats to be the adults in the room and show their Republican colleagues that it’s possible to do more for their constituents than feed their greivances. But it can’t happen if every single piece of legislation is being framed with floor speeches by Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Body demanding to subpoena Mayorkas’ housekeeper or Farmer Jim threatening impeachments over policy disputes. And I’m entirely unwilling to begin or engage in any conversation with these kinds of people until they set that shit aside. They are dog shit. I avoid stepping in dog shit. I think elected Democrats should do likewise.
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Elijah Dominic McFuckheadspews:
“At this dangerously divided moment in our history, all leaders—regardless of party—must not pour fuel on the fire with more toxic partisanship. We must reaffirm what has made this nation great: the rule of law.”
– Larry Hogan for Senate
“You just ended your fucking campaign,”
– Chris LaCivita, RNC Chief of Staff and Senior Adviser to Trump 2024
Works for me.
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Elijah Dominic McFuckheadspews:
“A Republican nominee without this baggage would have a clear path to victory.”
– Senator Lisa Murkowski
“Noted.”
– Chris LaCivita, RNC Chief of Staff and Senior Adviser to Trump 2024
I love it when they fight.
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Vicious Trollspews:
@ 36
… a clear path to victory.
With no toss-up states Trump’s at 312 EVs. Hell, even Decision Desk HQ @ 13, with toss-ups subtracted from each side, gives Trump 282.
Seems pretty clear to me.
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Elijah Dominic McFuckheadspews:
It’s been a very disappointing week for MAGA.
Obviously.
So here’s the Village Idiot personally projecting that convicted felon Donald Trump will go on from this catastrophe to flip 80 electoral votes.
That’s just part of what happens when previously rational, competent people grow too old, too disappointed with, and too emotionally weary of the daily struggle to cling to objective reality and just release their grip on that firmament and drift freely in the seductive and exhilarating rush of the MAGA current.
But every rush ends in a Sunday morning sidewalk – or in his case a Wednesday morning sidewalk with a backpack full of pipe bombs and thoughts of self annihilation.
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Vicious Trollspews:
@ 38
…Donald Trump will go on from this catastrophe to flip 80 electoral votes.
The EVs allocated to each candidate will be no worse for Trump a month from now.
Trump doesn’t need to flip 80. He’ll flip NV, AZ, GA with relative ease. Then he only needs one of the Rust Belt states.
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Elijah Dominic McFuckheadspews:
39,
Yes 37 really was a stupid thing for the Village Idiot to have posted.
Trump’s at 312 EVs
But there it is for all to see, testifying pretty clearly just how triggering and upsetting these 34 felony convictions will be for MAGA to cope with. But none of this should surprise America.
These are the very same people who formed a gigantic violent mob to stop their last humiliating lost election from being formally counted and who stabbed police repeatedly in the necks with modified cattle prods while screaming KILL HIM WITH HIS OWN GUN!!
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Elijah Dominic McFuckheadspews:
“If they can do this to me, they can do this to anyone,”
Well yeah, sure.
Anyone who barebacks a notorious sex worker. Then buys her off to silence her. Then lies about in business records in order to defraud a federal election.
NBC News headline: “Trump unloads in rambling remarks after historic conviction”
Too unfocused to be president. But hey, they can still elect him under the Fetterman Principle (it’s the party, not the candidate, that matters). But that works for Biden, too — if you’re foolish enough to believe he’s as mentally debilitated as Trump.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@34 “Let’s balance the budget. But I won’t pretend we can do that with tax cuts.”
Departed HA troll Mark the Redneck would disagree. He claimed tax cuts increase revenues. This is demonstrably false, as all you have to do is look at the statistics and see what happened to federal revenues after the Reagan, Bush, and Trump tax cuts (they dropped), but he wouldn’t listen.
I’ll repeat what I posted back then. A 0% tax rate produces zero revenue. A 100% tax rate also produces zero revenue, because nobody’s going to work or produce income if the government takes it all. It follows that tax revenues are optimized at some rate between 0% and 100%. A tax rate above or below this number reduces revenue. In a democracy, the actual tax rate will be below this number, because people who can choose their government don’t vote to maximize taxation. Therefore in a democracy cutting taxes will reduce revenue. The claim that tax cuts spur economic activity that increases tax revenue may sound good in theory, but doesn’t prove out when you look at the actual revenue statistics after a tax cut.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Manchin quits Democrats and registers as independent so he can run for re-election or for governor.
… see what happened to federal revenues after the Reagan, Bush, and Trump tax cuts (they dropped) …
There was a miniscule drop in revenues associated with the early Reagan recession, and there was a drop during The Great Recession. Other than that there was no decrease in federal revenues from the Reagan through GWB43 term.
Pointing out two small revenue declines in an economy that has always waxed and waned, and attibuting them to tax cuts that occurred several years or more earlier, is unserious and dishonest, Robinhood Dumbfuck Rabbit.
The small 2020 revenue decline was due to the pandemic and was a government-mandated shortfall. If you tried to work you’d be thrown in jail.
You are full of shit, Robinhood Dumbfuck Rabbit. As usual.
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Elijah Dominic McFuckheadspews:
You are full of shit
Didn’t this overwrought troll just forecast that convicted felon Donald Trump will flip 80 electoral votes that he lost four years ago while he was an incumbent and before he became a felon?
Black Voters spews:
Dumbfuck’s favorite black man since he found out he exists a couple months back isn’t going to be his favorite anymore. There’s always Herschel Walker.
Just this week on ‘Guttfeld!’.
Vicious Troll spews:
@ 1
Looking forward to tha God’s forthcoming full-throated endorsement of my cowardly, corrupt, incompetent, senile fossil of a president.
Vicious Troll spews:
Just short of $35 million raised by the Trump campaign since the verdict. And 30% of the donors are new.
Independent Voters spews:
Texas goes Blue.
*all nine Texas Supreme Court Justices are Republicans.
Vicious Troll spews:
In a poll in which Democrat respondents outnumber Republican respondents by a 48-23 margin, you’d think Biden would have a lead larger than 6 points.
In 2020 Biden won NY state by 23 points. He’s now up 6.
I’d be worried if I were a Democrat.
Vicious Troll spews:
@ 5
Try the lawsuit again after making fatties drop 50# before getting knocked up.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
Under current law a convicted felon may not obtain a top level security clearance to have access to national defense information.
Candidate daily security briefings normally provided once the candidate has received their party’s nomination will now be substantially modified to redact all national defense information from the briefings.
Keep Falling for the Lies spews:
@3
And…poof. It’s gone. Legal fees and all that.
Also, we’ll see what it really is when the FEC filings come in. Smells a lot like a $15B Trump Golf course in the Yukon.
Not the NY Post spews:
Generally the only people with 34 losses in New York by May are the Mets.
Securities and Exchange Commission spews:
Elon
Yes, you should probably be concerned with people getting convicted for falsifying accounting statements.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
Feeling the love last night:
https://mastodon.social/@djinnsour/112536685067932798
I❤️NY
Vicious Troll spews:
Democrats desperate for black votes are – for the third time – alleging there’s video tape of Trump using the N-word.
The Donald Trump I Saw on The Apprentice
Guess what, Queen YLB? The Democrats have their own “whitey” tape this year. Quite the irony, no?
Vicious Troll spews:
DOCTOR Jill to Joe: “We’ll always have Michigan.”
Trump’s likelihood of taking NV really should be well above 51%. He’s had recent polling of 13%, 9%, 8% leads there.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
10,
Such an opaque claim leaves us to wonder.
I can only assume in the case of an incompetent, trust fund plutocrat like Musk that what he thinks has been “damaged” is any presumption that people like him should be held above the law.
He gives us nothing else to work with. And that makes the most sense.
Of course Trump’s MAGA victims, who are all well accustomed to performative groveling and cult-like worship, will feel aggreived by this crushing defeat. But though they will claim it was “unfair”, like Musk they’ll offer less than nothing on which to pin that claim.
Because for the most part they don’t believe it.
That fundamental internal conflict between the messaging and the underlying belief tends to produce cognitive dissonance.
Vicious Troll spews:
There will be commercials during the CNN presidential debate.
You didn’t think Biden was just going to stand there without dropping the mask for 90 minutes straight, did you?
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
With the looming prospect that the convicted felon Republican nominee is likely to face an all-Black panel for the appeal of his conviction, he should have done more to bury the now widespread reports about his frequent use of that word while he was starring in an NBC reality television show.
https://x.com/acnewsitics/status/1796406220393452003
But it’s always been this way, hasn’t it?
The weakest element of the prosecution, the difficulty of proving that he personally approved the fraud, was entirely confirmed by his own stupid fat mouth frequently confessing those elements of the crimes. “Statements against self-interest” should be featured on his business cards.
And now the focus shifts row Election Interference and Dissemination of Classified documents to hostile foreign powers if he didn34 felonies surely he Don 60-80 spews:
@2
Like many who are telling pollsters in April/May they’re ’undecided’ or RFK Jr. because Biden hasn’t done ‘enough’ are looking at Convicted Felon Donald Trump and what his policies actually are and will vote for Joe.
I inderstand how much reality upsets you.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
Are Americans really still expecting a pivot?
After everything they’ve ssen can mainstreamers really still expect that kind of substance and strength of character from Republican voters?
Republicans are a group of Americans who have consistently demonstrated a level of obsequiousness, servility, and denial unprecedented in American history since the slave states declared a rebellion. They will continue on this path of destruction. They won’t “come to their senses”. We can only hope that a percentage of them will simply lose interest in the project of destruction that they have embarked upon and withhold their votes from a convicted felon.
It’s up to the rest of us to avoid the catastrophe. It always has been.
Old Man Yells at Clouds spews:
This is what happens when your mind goes soft and you sleep through a trial.
The poor old sod thinks he’s doing the Georgia case.
He would go on to mention the #1 rated FEC Chair or Most respects FEC Chair ever five more times.
Sad armchair lawyer defends the felon. spews:
I can hear Dumbfuck already , “But they DID try to call the witness”. And that was ruled not relevant as the case was about bookkeeping.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
Okay. Other than the fact that convicted felon Donald Trump himself was so outspoken and aggressive in his constant shouting before and during the trial that it was necessarry to impose a gag order on him to protect the jury and to protect his rights to due process, what exactly was supposed to be “political” about it?
He was accused of a serious crime. There was sufficient evidence presented to a grand jury over a period of three months at the beginning of last year to convince that grand jury to hand down an indictment indicating their agreement that it should be decided at trial. The crimes charged are crimes that are frequently charged in New York. Over 10,000 FBS charges brought in the last ten years. The most serious, and when the statutory elements are present, are charged as felonies. Those most serious felonies typically result in a custodial sentence. There’s nothing political about any of that.
In June of 2023 convicted felong Donald Trump filed a motion to have the trial removed to federal court. In July federal judge Alvin Hellerstein denied that motion ruling that “Trump has failed to show that the conduct charged by the Indictment is for or relating to any act performed by or for the President under color of the official acts of a President.” He was not setting up fake business records to conceal hush money payments as part of his official duties as President.
He got a short delay on his trial schedule to consider evidence newly released from the SDNY. He filed more than a dozen motions for dismissal between July and April. Got hearings for all of them. Got denied. Many of those full motion hearings were to consider claims as thin and legally fictional as that the DA is “pursuing a delluded fantasy”. Others simply argued that facing trial would inconvenience the defendant while he was also campaigning for elected office. On three separate occasions by three different NY Appellate Judges the convicted felon Trump had his last minute motions for dismissal or delay denied.
Of about sixty prospective jurors available for his trial, every single one selected to serve was approved by convicted felon Trump’s own defense attorneys after careful public examination and interrogation in Trump’s presence. Not a single one of the twelve jurors who sat in deliberation and eventually found Trump guilt on all 34 felony counts was ever objected to by the defense attorneys or by Trump himself. None of these jurors were known to each other in any way before the trial nor to any party taking part in the trial, neither the defendant, the judge, the attorneys for the people, the attorneys for the defense, or any of the witnesses.
If any part of the evidence, the documents entered into evidence, or the witness testimony was overtly or even slightly political or partisan in nature I have yet to hear about it. These were business invoices, checks, check memos, and receipts, phone calls about those payments, text messages about the payments, and witness recollections about the payments and the purposes of the payments.
The jury retired to weigh the evidence and after ten hours of careful deliberation delivered the vedict that Trump was guilty of all 34 felonies charged.
“The trial was political” is now just a thing these people say to avoid facing who they are and what they have done. Nobody should let that go. It’s no different than the still ongoing claim from Republicans that the 2020 election “was rigged”. It was not. And at least now whenever one of the MAGAturds says “the 2020 election was rigged” every responsible journalist immediately responds by saying “that is not true”. This should be no different.
“The trial was political” is a vague lie that should never go unchallenged. There was nothing political about any part of that prosecution or that trial.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
Whaddya know?
Turns out pronouns matter after all.
Vicious Troll spews:
I think the biggest problem is that the judge allowed the prosecutor to repeatedly claim that Trump broke federal law during his closing. That’s never been alleged by the DOJ.
Vicious Troll spews:
@ 17
Like many who are telling pollsters in April/May they’re ’undecided’ or RFK Jr. because Biden hasn’t done ‘enough’ are looking at Convicted Felon Donald Trump and what his policies actually are and will vote for Joe.
1. How does Trump’s conviction increase Biden’s accomplishments?
2. What’s your evidence that not voting for Trump equates to a vote for Biden, rather than 1) leaving the presidential choice blank 2) voting for a candidate from a third party 2) staying home?
If they wanted RFK Jr. because Biden hasn’t done enough, how does the verdict change that?
Vicious Troll spews:
Having seen his little remaining dignity fleeced by the Democrat party after agreeing to sign the misnamed Inflation Reduction Act only to watch the Democrats renege on their side of the deal, Joe Manchin has decided he’s no longer a Democrat.
I wonder if he realizes that he’s no longer relevant, too.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
@23,
Money spent by a federal candidate in furtherance of their political campaign must be disclosed in federal campaign finance statements. Deliberately misclassifying a federal campaign expense as a private business related legal expense if a violation of federal law.
The Tacopina defense was a failure not only because Joe Tacopina is a shitty lawyer who was incredibly out of his depth, but also because the evidence clearly demonstrated that the purposes of the payments and the record keeping fraud was to interfere with the election. It was campaign related. Convicted felon Trump did not give one single shit who knew he was fucking around and barebacking sex workers. He introduced them to his celebrity pals. He refused to wear condoms. He brought him around his security details.
And it also fails because Trump himself made and published public statements admitting that the campaign needed to keep the stories out of the media.
It finally fails because of the timeline, the nature and the structuring of the payments. Edwards continued paying Hunter after his campaign was already suspended.
In any case, this is a legal, technical objection and goes to the finding of fact by the jury. So it has nothing to do with politics and certainly nothing to do with the politics of the judge. The NY statute for the class E felony of falsification of business records requires that the jury find a separate criminal purpose behind the offense. It spells out that the separate criminal purpse does not have to be established by a separate criminal conviction, but only has to be proved to the jury in the present case. The people’s closing included an argument to the jury about violations of federal campaign disclosure laws because it was part of the case as defined by the statute.
Try an example.
Let’s say your are employed in NY by a federal contractor and your job includes entering records of business transactions for your employer. Let’s say deliberately misclassify an entry of an expense as a routine payment for legal work that was really a bribe to a federal contract officer. NY will charge you with the class E felony. Bribing a federal contract officer is a federal offense. That’s up the the local US Attorney. That office has its own procedures, standards, and requirements. It convenes its own grand juries. And it negotiates its own agreements. They don’t consult NY. Nevertheless, the underlying criminal violation supporting the class E felony can be that federal crime, even if it is never actually charged by that United States Attorney. NY just has to prove to your jury that you falsified the business record to cover up a bribe of a federal official.
The NY randomly chosen and carefully screened NY jury weghed the people’s evidence and came to the conclusion that in all 34 cases where a business record was falsified surrounding these payments to sex workers, the underlying reasons for the falsifications were themselves criminal. That’s a finding of fact arising from due process.
Appeal that if you can. I doubt it gets you anywhere in NY.
I’m always prepared to concede to magically constructive thinking on the part of the deeply corrupt fed soc puppets on the Roberts Supreme Court. But it calls for them to engage in more than just re-writing New York state law. They have to substitute themselves for a NY state jury.
What an asshole. Must be a Republican.. spews:
Joe Manchin has decided he’s no longer a Democrat.
What kind of “not Democrat” votes to increase IRS funding? And was reportedly in favor of raising corporate taxes after the drumpf “raises all levels” tax scam exploded the debt.
knock, knock, knock…
whatever.. good riddance to the “not a liberal”…
Vicious Troll spews:
@ 27
good riddance to the “not a liberal”
Indeed. The Democrat party spent the better part of two decades causing its Blue Dogs to quit or lose re-election bids. Those who tried to remake themselves into something acceptable to the party ended up embarrassing themselves in the process – I’m talking about you, Evan Bayh and Charlie Crist.
Now Democrats support Hamas’ efforts to kill Jews and the efforts of dudes who can’t compete with their own gender to kick the asses of girls instead, merely by claiming to identify as a girl themselves.
They’ve certainly done their share to ensure that voters have a clear choice between two alternatives, those Democrats have.
Good.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@2 This morning your “cowardly, corrupt, incompetent, senile fossil of a president”
https://www.aol.com/news/biden-says-questioning-trumps-guilty-174118417.html
and also called for an end to the killing in Gaza.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/31/politics/biden-middle-east-remarks/index.html
Which of these is
(1) cowardly
(2) corrupt
(3) incompetent
(4) senile
???
Roger Rabbit spews:
@3 Nothing new about this. MAGAts hate their money and have lined up for years to shower dollars on Trump. Then like this guy they complain they’re poor because of “Bidenflation.”
Roger Rabbit spews:
@4 Texas Republicans have no intention of standing idly by and watching women die from pregnancy complications.
They intend to execute them.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@5 “I’d be worried if I were a Democrat.”
I’m worried.
For years I told whoever would listen that we have a good thing going here in America — our domestic peace and tranquility, prosperity, and freedom — but can’t take it for granted because a Hitler can happen here, too.
Trust me, doc, I’m worried because that’s no longer only a theoretical possibility. The venality, stupidity, and lack of patriotism of voters like you makes it a clear and present danger.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@10 The people whose faith in the American legal system is “damaged” by Trump’s conviction (and whose faith in America’s elections previously was “damaged” by his election loss) would follow a dictator in a heartbeat. Elon is one of them.
Frankly, I don’t give a shit what those people think. I used to believe in listening to the other side and trying to bridge differences through compromise, but there’s nothing here to listen to except screeching morons who have nothing intelligent to say, and it’s a mistake to cut deals with mobs.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
33,
I’m willing to listen. And I’ll even cut deals.
I just refuse to engage with these assholes on false premises, bad faith arguments, or paranoid conspiracy theories. And I think that’s a growing problem for Republicans. Because with each passing day that Trump and MAGA are in control of the GOP the party’s communications and negotiating positions are more exclusively defined by false premises, bad faith, and paranoia.
Let’s fix immigration. But we can’t do that by building a fucking wall. Let’s balance the budget. But I won’t pretend we can do that with tax cuts.
I think there are areas of policy on which Democrats can reach agreements with Republicans and I think the recent history has demonstrated that. There’s a long and difficult road ahead that will often require Democrats to be the adults in the room and show their Republican colleagues that it’s possible to do more for their constituents than feed their greivances. But it can’t happen if every single piece of legislation is being framed with floor speeches by Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Body demanding to subpoena Mayorkas’ housekeeper or Farmer Jim threatening impeachments over policy disputes. And I’m entirely unwilling to begin or engage in any conversation with these kinds of people until they set that shit aside. They are dog shit. I avoid stepping in dog shit. I think elected Democrats should do likewise.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
– Larry Hogan for Senate
– Chris LaCivita, RNC Chief of Staff and Senior Adviser to Trump 2024
Works for me.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
– Senator Lisa Murkowski
– Chris LaCivita, RNC Chief of Staff and Senior Adviser to Trump 2024
I love it when they fight.
Vicious Troll spews:
@ 36
… a clear path to victory.
With no toss-up states Trump’s at 312 EVs. Hell, even Decision Desk HQ @ 13, with toss-ups subtracted from each side, gives Trump 282.
Seems pretty clear to me.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
It’s been a very disappointing week for MAGA.
Obviously.
So here’s the Village Idiot personally projecting that convicted felon Donald Trump will go on from this catastrophe to flip 80 electoral votes.
That’s just part of what happens when previously rational, competent people grow too old, too disappointed with, and too emotionally weary of the daily struggle to cling to objective reality and just release their grip on that firmament and drift freely in the seductive and exhilarating rush of the MAGA current.
But every rush ends in a Sunday morning sidewalk – or in his case a Wednesday morning sidewalk with a backpack full of pipe bombs and thoughts of self annihilation.
Vicious Troll spews:
@ 38
…Donald Trump will go on from this catastrophe to flip 80 electoral votes.
The EVs allocated to each candidate will be no worse for Trump a month from now.
Trump doesn’t need to flip 80. He’ll flip NV, AZ, GA with relative ease. Then he only needs one of the Rust Belt states.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
39,
Yes 37 really was a stupid thing for the Village Idiot to have posted.
Trump’s at 312 EVs
But there it is for all to see, testifying pretty clearly just how triggering and upsetting these 34 felony convictions will be for MAGA to cope with. But none of this should surprise America.
These are the very same people who formed a gigantic violent mob to stop their last humiliating lost election from being formally counted and who stabbed police repeatedly in the necks with modified cattle prods while screaming KILL HIM WITH HIS OWN GUN!!
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
Well yeah, sure.
Anyone who barebacks a notorious sex worker. Then buys her off to silence her. Then lies about in business records in order to defraud a federal election.
Yes we can.
Roger Rabbit spews:
NBC News headline: “Trump unloads in rambling remarks after historic conviction”
Too unfocused to be president. But hey, they can still elect him under the Fetterman Principle (it’s the party, not the candidate, that matters). But that works for Biden, too — if you’re foolish enough to believe he’s as mentally debilitated as Trump.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@34 “Let’s balance the budget. But I won’t pretend we can do that with tax cuts.”
Departed HA troll Mark the Redneck would disagree. He claimed tax cuts increase revenues. This is demonstrably false, as all you have to do is look at the statistics and see what happened to federal revenues after the Reagan, Bush, and Trump tax cuts (they dropped), but he wouldn’t listen.
I’ll repeat what I posted back then. A 0% tax rate produces zero revenue. A 100% tax rate also produces zero revenue, because nobody’s going to work or produce income if the government takes it all. It follows that tax revenues are optimized at some rate between 0% and 100%. A tax rate above or below this number reduces revenue. In a democracy, the actual tax rate will be below this number, because people who can choose their government don’t vote to maximize taxation. Therefore in a democracy cutting taxes will reduce revenue. The claim that tax cuts spur economic activity that increases tax revenue may sound good in theory, but doesn’t prove out when you look at the actual revenue statistics after a tax cut.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Manchin quits Democrats and registers as independent so he can run for re-election or for governor.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/sen-joe-manchin-leaves-democratic-party-registers-independent-rcna154885
Vicious Troll spews:
@ 43
… see what happened to federal revenues after the Reagan, Bush, and Trump tax cuts (they dropped) …
There was a miniscule drop in revenues associated with the early Reagan recession, and there was a drop during The Great Recession. Other than that there was no decrease in federal revenues from the Reagan through GWB43 term.
Pointing out two small revenue declines in an economy that has always waxed and waned, and attibuting them to tax cuts that occurred several years or more earlier, is unserious and dishonest, Robinhood Dumbfuck Rabbit.
The small 2020 revenue decline was due to the pandemic and was a government-mandated shortfall. If you tried to work you’d be thrown in jail.
You are full of shit, Robinhood Dumbfuck Rabbit. As usual.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
Didn’t this overwrought troll just forecast that convicted felon Donald Trump will flip 80 electoral votes that he lost four years ago while he was an incumbent and before he became a felon?
He did.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@45 You’re leaving out that after cutting taxes, Reagan raised them, canceling a major part of his tax cuts.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ronald-reagan-myth-doesnt-square-with-reality/
Roger Rabbit spews:
“2000 Mules,” film and book, have been pulled from circulation. Why? Because it crossed the line from false conspiracy theory to libel.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/dinesh-dsouza-election-fraud-film-book-2000-mules-pulled-defamation-su-rcna154994
Dindoonuffin spews:
A criminal record will:
A. cost Trump black votes
B. earn Trump black votes
C. make no difference to black voters
What an asshole. Must be a Republican.. spews:
There was a miniscule drop in revenues associated with the early Reagan recession
You of course leave out that bonzo had to raise taxes aggressively after the fantasy supply side bs tax scam
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-12-15/the-mostly-forgotten-tax-increases-of-1982-1993
Ooops…