I spent a busy day digging a gigantic hole in the beach with my daughter and her cousins, so I thought I’d just be lazy tonight, and pile on the story about Robert Novak getting suspended from CNN for swearing on air and then walking off the set of Inside Politics.
Carville and Novak were both trying to speak while they were handicapping the GOP candidacy of Katherine Harris. Novak said the opposition of the Republican establishment in Florida might not be fatal for her.
“Let me just finish, James, please,” Novak continued. “I know you hate to hear me, but you have to.”
Carville, addressing the camera, said: “He’s got to show these right wingers that he’s got a backbone, you know. It’s why the Wall Street Journal editorial page is watching you. Show ’em that you’re tough.”
“Well, I think that’s bull—- and I hate that,” Novak replied. “Just let it go.”
As moderator Henry stepped in to ask Carville a question, Novak walked off the set.
Hmm. Under a little pressure these days, Bob?
You can view the clip on Crooks and Liars.
If you’re wondering why Novak got all pissy over Carville’s relatively innocuous comment… um… so am I. But I suppose it could be that he just didn’t want to answer any more questions about Valerie Plame… questions he knew were coming up from host Ed Henry.
That Novak should be disciplined for saying the word “bullshit” when he’s made a career out of spewing it, strikes me as a little odd… so I’m guessing that CNN suspended him for walking off the set, not for the cussing. Other pundits have criticized Novak for his lack of professionalism, but I’m not exactly sure what his profession is. CNN didn’t seem to think it was unprofessional of him to play the role of Karl Rove’s hatchet man by blowing the cover off a CIA operative… or to immediately roll over to the special prosecutor and give up Rove’s name, while other real journalists were willing to go to jail to protect their sources. But apparently, even professional hacks have their standards, and in walking off the set of a live show Novak finally tripped over the very low bar CNN had set for him.
Still, it’s probably all for the best. Outing CIA operatives and libeling Senate staffers is hard work, and Novak could probably use the vacation. So why not join me on the beach, Bob, and grab a shovel… I think you know what to do with it.
You actually admit to watching CNN Goldy???
Hell, everyone knows the ONLY real news station is FOX!!!
I do enjoy Carville….he’s a funny guy. I never take Carville seriously. Novak is an asshole and a gasbag.
If folks think the word bullshit is bad….they haven’t been to HorsesAss have they!!
Gee, Cynical, I actually agree with you! But then, I’m just a cute fluffy little bunny.
GOldy, Too bad that being on vacation prevents you from reading what the blogosphere is figuring out about the Plame affair. Your simplistic leap to a conclusion is adequate for summer laziness. The rest of us, though, will continue to see more nuance in it all.
Like, why is Judy Miller sitting in jail if she is protecting Rove, who has already been named? Conclusion is, she is protecting someone else. Who? Why?
Why didn’t the CIA press office tell Novak to back off? Why didn’t Tenet call Novak and tell him not to publish her name? If Rove found out who she was because everyone in Washington knew who she was, does that mean he revealed information learned from secret sources, or was just passing on commonly known gossip?
And why did a covert agent get herself in the middle of a political activity? She had to know that her husband would get notoriety with his findings, and that someone would ask how he got the job in the first place. Doesn’t sound like she was being particularly careful. Maybe it’s because she was no longer covert.
Just some summertime thoughts.
Who said GW Bush doesnt care about the enviornment and availability of fuel?
http://www.eere.energy.gov/cle....._pres.html
U.S. Tortures Children
“A Sunday Herald investigation has discovered that coalition forces are holding more than 100 children in jails such as Abu Ghraib. Witnesses claim that the detainees – some as young as 10 – are also being subjected to rape and torture.”
For complete story see http://www.sundayherald.com/43796. The Sunday Herald is the on-line news edition of a newspaper in Glasgow, Scotland.
Of course, our righty troll friends won’t click on the link, because they DON’T WANT TO KNOW the U.S. is torturing little kids. And it’s pretty hard to claim that 10-year-olds are terrorists, isn’t it? So these folks will shut their eyes and turn away, and try to tell us it’s just that liberal media spouting lies again. Not open minded folks, these. Not amenable to objective reportage, these folks. Can’t bother ’em with facts. The Earth is flat. Global warming doesn’t exist. America doesn’t torture and rape children.
Goldy, I don’t think Carville’s statement was “innocuous.” For Novak, it was a kick in the balls — but he had it coming, of course. And he knows it. One thing ya gotta say for Bob though — he knows when he’s getting his balls kicked and it’s time to run from a fight.
It is very amusing to see the dominoes fall into place.
This is history folks! I was to young to appreciate the Watergate Years. If not for all the brave soldiers dying for a corrupt regimes hubris it would be funny.
I can only hope that the USA will be better for their sacrifice.
BTW Goldy, you never get enough credit for your post headlines.’
“Unintelligent President supports teaching “intelligent design”
Is the laugh out loud funny! Truly genious! The Onion awaits you!
Goldy said “poop”. Hunh-hheh-unh-huhheh-huhunuhuh.
Why not head back out to the beach and jump in to that large hole that you dug for yourself. It would be a fitting metaphor for the number of BS posts you’ve made trying to pin the whole thing on Rove in the first place.
Maybe your daughter and her cousins can then shovel the sand back in too.
GLT @ 7
What is your problem, asshole?
If you think Goldy posts bullshit, what the fuck are you doing reading it, taking it seriously (sometimes too seriously), and discussing it with the HA community?
Just admit it, GLT, you love reading HA!
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Another miserable (u)SP nut still hung up stupid from election contest.
Goldy called it right and you were wrong.
When you get down to it, everyone on TV’s “talking-head” curcuit is a BS artist. Otherwise, why would the networks like Fox and CNN have them on the air? Their job is to get viewers to watch them pontificate and hopefully hang around for the commercials.
In other words, talk TV, just like talk radio, is BS. So why get exicited about it?
Janet S
“GOldy, Too bad that being on vacation prevents you from reading what the blogosphere is figuring out about the Plame affair. Your simplistic leap to a conclusion is adequate for summer laziness. The rest of us, though, will continue to see more nuance in it all.”
Oh??? And, are you, Janet S, going to give us some penetrating new insights? LOL!
“Like, why is Judy Miller sitting in jail if she is protecting Rove, who has already been named? Conclusion is, she is protecting someone else. Who? Why?”
Yep, we have all been wondering that. Personally, I think it is Cheney or Shrub she is protecting. But, Janet S, where is your wonderful insight into this? Or are you guilty of the same laziness you accuse Goldy of?
“Why didn�t the CIA press office tell Novak to back off? Why didn�t Tenet call Novak and tell him not to publish her name?”
I guess you haven’t been paying attention. Someone from the CIA testified before the grand jury that he DID tell Novak not to disclose Plame’s identity. Have you been too lazy to learn that little fact?
“If Rove found out who she was because everyone in Washington knew who she was, does that mean he revealed information learned from secret sources, or was just passing on commonly known gossip?”
Everyone in Washington did not know Plame was a CIA agent. But, even so, the CIA certainly though Plame was doing some important undercover work on terrorist acquisition of WMD. They even had a front company that Plame “worked for”. So, your question is irrelevant. Rove fucked up a fairly elaborate CIA resource that is directly connected to our national security against terrorists!
“And why did a covert agent get herself in the middle of a political activity?”
She didn’t.
“She had to know that her husband would get notoriety with his findings, and that someone would ask how he got the job in the first place.”
Sorry, this statement displays your ignorance of the facts. Wilson got the job based on his credentials as a former high level State Department employee stationed in both Niger and Iraq. It is hard to imagine better qualifications for a non-spy type of mission investigating allegations of Iraq trying to purchase yellow cake from Niger.
Secondly, Plame had little to do with her husband being selected beyond a recommendation. And even so, the CIA does generally does not let the public know when a covert CIA agent offers an opinion on hiring a consultant.
Thirdly, there was no obvious way to know Plame worked for the CIA until a senior White House staff person (or two) mentioned this fact to the press.
“Doesn�t sound like she was being particularly careful.”
What are you talking about, you moron? Nobody has ever shown that Plame has done anything careless.
“Maybe it�s because she was no longer covert.”
Sorry, but is this the best you have to offer? The CIA seems to believe a major operation was exposed by the White House leak. I suspect they know a little more about it than you do.
“Just some summertime thoughts.”
No, not really, some brain farts, perhaps. But not “thoughts.”
“In a column that ran in the Sun-Times on Monday, Novak suggested he learned Plame’s identity partly from reading Who’s Who in America. A CNN source said a producer had placed a copy of Who’s Who on the set Thursday prior to the taping, apparently so it could be consulted while Novak was asked about the issue.”
http://www.suntimes.com/output.....vak05.html
I would love it if Novak testified that he learned the identity of a NOC CIA Operative from “Who’s Who”.
Novak And Rove sharing a prison cell. Sweet dreams are made of this.
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“Who said GW Bush doesnt care about the enviornment and availability of fuel?
I do. Just look at the energy bill (HB 6) he just signed.
LOOK, LOOK EVERYBODY!!
The wheels are coming off the Republican hate machine.
HA HA
Novak is cracking under the pressure of “Traitor Gate.”
HA HA again.
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I think Bush cares about the availability of fuel.
As long as it belongs to somebody American companies can take it from, without paying for it, with a little help from our military. And without passing the savings on to consumers.
And as long as American taxpayers can be forced to make multi-billion dollar gifts to oil companies so they can make big campaign donations to Republican politicians. This is called “Rent An Army.” It’s kind of like renting a truck from U-Haul or a pressure washer from Aurora Rents.
Goldy,
Gotta say, I read ‘Gigantic hole on the beach’, got to your invitation for Novak to join you on the beach, and ended up somewhere quite different than shovelling BS. Of course, my way means a lot more digging, because Novak’s head is Ginormous!
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You’re right: it depends on how you define the phrase “cares about the availability of fuel.”
CNN commentator Robert Novak’s decision to storm off the set of “Inside Politics” yesterday has already received four times as much news coverage as a similar meltdown by ex-President Clinton.
Clinton walked out in the midst of a 1994 interview with NBC in Prague.
A Lexis-Nexis search conducted midday Friday turned up 39 stories on the Novak tantrum, detailing how the conservative columnist exploded during a debate with fellow CNN’er James Carville, yanked off his microphone and walked away.
Novak’s actions were almost a mirror image of Clinton’s, who pulled the plug on a Jan. 14, 1994 interview with NBC reporter Jim Miklaszewski after becoming angry that the NBC’er had dared to ask him about Whitewater.
“You’ve had your two questions, Jim,” Clinton snarled. “I’m sorry you’re not interested in the trip.” The president then leaped to his feet, tore off his microphone and stormed off the set.
The next day, Clinton was asked about his tantrum during an interview on ABC’s “Nightline.”
“There’s no point in going into it now,” he insisted. “I don’t have to talk about it anymore.”
Despite the fact that the presidential meltdown came in the midst of a network television interview, the episode attracted surprisingly little media attention.
A Lexis-Nexis search turned up just 9 reports on Clinton’s tantrum for the entire week after it happened.
Carville is funny? He’s a good argument for the re-instatement of duelling!
Clinton and Novak throw tantrums on TV… Dick[head] Cheney waives at his colleauges with one finger…
They’re all assholes.
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