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Drinking Liberally

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The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

I’ll be out trick or treating with my daughter, so I won’t be showing up until a little later in the evening. But when I do, I’ll be wearing my super-scary Tim Eyman costume.

Not in Seattle? Washington liberals will also be drinking tonight in the Tri-Cities and Vancouver. Here’s a full run down of WA’s ten Drinking Liberally chapters:

Where: When: Next Meeting:
Burien: Mick Kelly’s Irish Pub, 435 SW 152nd St Fourth Wednesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward November 22
Kirkland: Valhalla Bar & Grill, 8544 122nd Ave NE Every Thursday, 7:00 pm onward November 2
Monroe: Eddie’s Trackside Bar and Grill, 214 N Lewis St Second Wednesday of each month, 7:00 PM onward November 8
Olympia: The Tumwater Valley Bar and Grill, 4611 Tumwater Valley Drive South First and third Monday of each month, 7:00-9:00 pm November 6
Seattle: Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Ave E Every Tuesday, 8:00 pm onward October 31
Spokane: Red Lion BBQ & Pub, 126 N Division St Every Wednesday, 7:00 pm November 1
Tacoma: Meconi’s Pub, 709 Pacific Ave Every Wednesday, 8:00 pm onward November 1
Tri-Cities: O’Callahans – Shilo Inn, 50 Comstock, Richland Every Tuesday, 7:00 pm onward October 31
Vancouver: Hazel Dell Brew Pub, 8513 NE Highway 99 Second and fourth Tuesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward November 14
Walla Walla: The Green Lantern, 1606 E Isaacs Ave First Friday of each month, 8:00 pm onward November 3

(And apparently there’s also an unaffiliated liberal drinking group in Olympia that meets every Monday at 7PM at the Brotherhood Lounge, 119 N. Capital Way.)

Comments

  1. 1

    I’ll be out trick or treating with my daughter, so I won’t be showing up until a little later in the evening. But when I do, I’ll be wearing my super-scary Tim Eyman costume.

    Darth Vader or Buzz Lightyear?

    I hope you thoroughly cleaned the codpiece.

    [shudder]

  2. 2

    THE GOP IS SPENDING OUR TAXES ON WHAAAAAT?!!!

    Fifty millions bucks to tell adults to abstain from sex. And these are the same guys who incessantly whine about “wasting taxpayer money?” Pathetic.

  4. 4

    REICHERT WILL RAISE YOUR TAXES!

    Forget those ads attacking Darcy Burner, rubberstampreichert is the guy who rubberstamps the Bush administration’s spending spree in Congress, and here’s how the wingnuts are spending your tax dollars:

    “Updated: 02:24 PM EST

    “Abstinence Message Goes Beyond Teens
    “Government Targets Singles Up to Age 29

    “By Sharon Jayson, USA TODAY

    “(Oct. 31) — The federal government’s ‘no sex without marriage’ message isn’t just for kids anymore. Now the government is targeting unmarried adults up to age 29 as part of its abstinence-only programs, which include millions of dollars in federal money … for 2007.

    ” … critics say it’s a clear signal of a … policy targeting the sexual behavior of adults. ‘They’ve stepped over the line of common sense,’ said James Wagoner, president of Advocates for Youth, a Washington, D.C.-based non-profit that supports sex education. ‘To be preaching abstinence when 90% of people are having sex is … to lose touch with reality. … It has nothing to do with public health.’

    “Abstinence education programs … teach that abstaining from sex is the only … method to prevent pregnancy or disease. They give no instruction on birth control or safe sex. …

    “Sarah Brown, director of the National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy, says abstinence programs are among many messages that have helped reduce teen pregnancy rates. But ‘the notion that the federal government is supporting millions of dollars worth of messages to people who are grown adults about how to conduct their sex life is a very divisive policy,’ she says.

    “‘We would oppose any program that stigmatizes unmarried people, adds Nicky Grist, executive director of the Alternatives to Marriage Project, a non-profit organization based in Brooklyn, N.Y., that advocates for the rights of unmarried people.

    For last year’s state grants, Congress appropriated $50 million. A similar amount is expected for 2007 ….”

    This article is quoted under the Fair Use doctrine. For complete story and/or copyright info, take a deep breath, bend over and touch your toes, and kiss your ass — or click here: http://tinyurl.com/yc3wo8

    Next time you see RubberStampReichert ask him why he’s spending $50 million of your hard-earned tax dollars to tell adults not to have sex.

  5. 5

    3

    As of right now, there is no judgment against McDermott because it was vacated, and since a ruling isn’t expected until next year there’s not much to discuss right now except byzantine legal arguments that are interesting only to lawyers.

  6. 6

    REICHERT WILL RAISE YOUR TAXES to tell twenty-something singles they shouldn’t have sex. And our trollfucks think you should vote for this guy !? what are they thinking.

  7. 7

    Roger Rabbit can’t attend DL next week because I’m a pollworker. This is a very responsible position! It’s hard to do, too. Stefan couldn’t cut it — he didn’t last one day.

  8. 8

    Why would anyone listen to a self-appointed election reformer who got fired from a pollworker job? If he can’t hack it at that level, he sure as hell isn’t qualified to tell anyone how to run an election.

  9. 9

    I see that after a short absence, Americafirst is back. This is the same lily-livered chickenshit, all talk and no willingness to back up his mouth with his ass….that agreed to meet me at Danny’s several weeks ago. Now he is back, spewing shit and proving what an ass he really is. Along with being a coward. I missed a day of vacation with my wife, Asshole, to get my ass across the sound and to Danny’s, where I waited for you to show up. I suppose you could have been there, sized up the situation and decided to remain silent. Not likely though. I am sure you were just too yellow to show.
    Funny how that works, americkafirst.
    Commentby My Left Foot— 10/31/06@ 7:58 am
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    You lying POS coward, you’re the one that didn’t show up. Typical Frenchfuck lying phoney lib.

  10. 10

    That’s like a kid who got fired from McDonald’s for not following his supervisor’s directions trying to tell Ray Kroc how to run the corporation.

  11. 11

    9

    You got a witness, wingnut? Are you prr … the guy who told Roger Rabbit “I’ll be there” … ? I said, “Is prr here?” and no one spoke up. No prr. Wingnuts are cowards and liars.

  12. 12

    I’m a liberal hack. Got a problem with it, show up at my burrow at 7 PM. Bring a gun.

  13. 13

    Wow, John Kerry sucks, saying our troops are uneducated. What an a-hole. Sad day for hippie Democrats, huh?

  14. 14

    Wow, John Kerry sucks, saying our troops are uneducated.

    No, he didn’t. Get your facts straight.

  16. 16

    48 americafirst
    Damn right. We’re going to fuck the Republican party in the ass, and you’re going to take it. Not so much fun when it’s done to you, huh?
    Commentby Daddy Love— 10/31/06@ 9:08 am
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    You have an odd obsession with sodomy,DL. And what was it you were saying about pedophillia being a 20th century construct?

  17. 17

    13

    No, Kerry said Bush sucks, and he’s right. You suck, too. Want to suck a rabbit dick? For a good time call 1-800-BLOW-ROG.

  18. 18

    Wow, John Kerry sucks, saying our troops are uneducated. What an a-hole. Sad day for hippie Democrats, huh?

    Yeah, he really did say that, it’s on the news. He’s not going to apologize either. How sad for those who back him!

  21. 21

    Actually, megadork,
    Kerry was saying that neocon douche bags like you are uneducated.
    That if it werent’ for dumbshits like you, Tony Snow and The-Flightsuit-In-Chief who’s mouths move when you read, we wouldn’t be in that hell hole.

    Get it.

    So you manage to prove Kerry right by being too stupid to know it when someone is poking fun at you.
    And as if that isn’t bad enough, you go running off screaming your stupidity to the whole world.

  22. 22

    “Tie a yellow ribbon ’round the old oak tree!”
    Heh… Hyeh… Heh!!! Wow!!! I used to love Tony Orlando and Dawn — especially the Oriental Dawn!!! Whoa Yeahhh! Can’t get enough o’ that stuff!!

    Uh oh…… Here comes Oprah! I’m outta here!!!

    Am I off topic? Gotta Run!

  24. 24

    Tony Snow wants an appology?
    That’s rich!

    I wan’t an appology!

    I wan’t an appology from President Bush for leaving both my legs in a pile of burning Black Hawk wreckage just so Republicans could distract voters long enough to deregulate the energy industry, deregulate the telecom and media industry and push through huge tax cuts for their wealthy pals.

  25. 25

    I wonder how many military ballots will be thrown out by liberal voting districts this year? It will probably be more than the usual 25% they usually throw out. Democrats cheat.

  27. 27

    Fox News (sic) continues to lose viewers; Countdown up huge.

    Commentby Another TJ— 10/31/06@ 5:14 pm

    We know the feeling. No one listen to our drivel anymore.

  28. 28

    16 “And what was it you were saying about pedophillia being a 20th century construct?”

    As a matter of fact, historically it’s been a common trait amongst the leaders of collapsing empires.

  29. 29

    Hey, kiddies….ket’s not forget what opportunies the military offers: Get an education in Hummer repair, then get your ass shot off.

  30. 30

    There’s a really bad smell in the White House, and it’s not just Tony Snow’s colostomy bag.

  31. 31

    In a previous thread Mark1 called ME “juvenile and immature.” If you want to read something “juvenile and immature” then check out megabrad’s blog! To wit:

    QUIZ TIME! YES, A POLITICAL HALLOWEEN QUIZ, YAY!
    Yes! Time for a quick quiz on (Oh No!) POLITICS! I know, you don’t want to hear about crappy politics when you come to my page, but this, well, I just can’t resist.

    Before I quiz, I declare…. I am not a member of ANY political party.

    There’s been alot of mud slinging going on lately, and I pretty much ignore all that sh*t. But then I came across this ‘statement’ in the news today, and I tell you, it’s the final straw for me.

    So here’s the quiz question;
    Can you tell me which retarded asshole made the following statement…

    ..””You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

    Uh huh. What an asshole. Well… do you know who it was? Just WHO WAS THE ASSHOLE WHO SAID

    Just WHO WAS THE ASSHOLE WHO SAID THIS, BASHING ON THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES WHO VOLUNTEER TO DEFEND THIS NATION AND VENTURE INTO HARMS WAY TO DO IT???

    I DON’T GIVE A FLYING RATS ASS IF YOU SUPPORT THIS LOSERS POLITICAL PARTY. THAT’S YOUR BUSINESS. IF YOU SUPPORT HIS STATEMENT HOWEVER, YOU’RE AN ASSHOLE.”

    http://www.megabrad.com/

    Oooooo … megabrad … did I infringe a copyright? Woo-hooo!!! Sue me; I say it’s Fair Use.

    P.S., I’m not a member of a political party either. But that doesn’t stop me from voting a 100% Democratic ticket! I used to split my ticket and vote for a Republican now and then. But that was before the GOP was hijacked by traitors and turned into a fascist party. I can see why megabrad won’t admit being a Republican. I wouldn’t admit that either, if I was him. Thank God I’m not him!

  32. 32

    I wonder why Mark1 doesn’t criticize juvenile and immature wingnut bloggers. Maybe because he’s a juvenile and immature wingnut himself.

  33. 33

    Roger my spelling might be poor but your comprehension is even as bad or worst. Now read what the Al Qaida supporter really said and he was also supporting the NVA during the Viet Nam Era. They hanged pictures of him in their command post in North Viet Nam and I’m not surprised that Osama bin Laudin has one signed and hanging in his cave. Yep he is still anger over the Swift-Boat crew torpedoing this election chances last time around. Just Like you Thumper still angry after the War end many years ago.

    http://www.slate.com/id/2152650/

    Military Intelligence
    By Christopher Beam
    Posted Tuesday, Oct. 31, 2006, at 6:10 PM ET
    Bloggers get heated over Sen. John Kerry’s remarks about the military. They also theorize about a recent madrasah bombing in Pakistan and laugh at Fox’s premature announcement of Studio 60’s demise.
    Military intelligence: During a speech endorsing California gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides at Pasadena City College yesterday, Sen. John Kerry encouraged students to work hard in school lest they “get stuck in Iraq.” White House press secretary Tony Snow called Kerry’s remarks “an absolute insult,” and Sen. John McCain said the former presidential candidate “owes an apology” to U.S. troops. Conservative bloggers go to town.
    Neddy at the conservative Kerfuffles translates Kerry’s comments thusly: “Because you were lazy and dumb in school, you are now in Iraq. Oh, by the way, ‘thank you for your service’ and ‘we support the troops.’ Vote for us at the polls so we can bring you home.”

  34. 34

    Roger,
    please don’t reward that retard parasite’s pathetic attempt to sponge off of Goldy’s blog by posting a link to his site.

    If you’re going to do that least have the good taste to screw up the URL.

  35. 35

    Hahaha!!

    You guys (wroger wrabbit & co)are funny. In a retarded, cheesy liberal kind of way. But still funny. Your guy Kerry is a punk. Don’t forget his grades were worse than Bush’s in college! Haaaahahahahahaha!!!!!
    Aint that a knee slapper!

  36. 36

    We have 11,000 lawyers standing by in case you traitors on the right try your usual hijinks at the polls.

  37. 37

    re 25: You’re just pissing in the wind at this point. I’m calling Eastern WA on Thurs. on behalf of Goldmark and on Sat. I’m calling for Burner. These elections can be close and I’m personally going to convince some people who are wavering to vote Democrat.

    This is the way it’s going to be from here on out,Spanky. We will bury you.

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    35

    Roger,
    please don’t reward that retard parasite’s pathetic attempt to sponge off of Goldy’s blog by posting a link to his site.

    If you’re going to do that least have the good taste to screw up the URL.

    Commentby Brads Mom— 10/31/06@ 6:19 pm

    You get to the same place by clicking any of the spam links.

  43. 43

    38

    We have 11,000 lawyers standing by in case you traitors on the right try your usual hijinks at the polls.

    Commentby RightEqualsStupid— 10/31/06@ 8:28 pm

    Ya know, I think it’s almost to the point where lawyers aren’t enough.

  44. 44

    We have 11,000 lawyers standing by in case you traitors on the right try your usual hijinks at the polls.

    Commentby RightEqualsStupid— 10/31/06@ 8:28 pm

    Hey stupid. We put those lawyers there to make sure illegals are not required to show ID. Now keep your mouth shut. Geeeesh.

  48. 48

    We have 11,000 lawyers standing by in case you traitors on the right try your usual hijinks at the polls.

    Commentby RightEqualsStupid […………………………………….WE have 10,000 Border Patrol and MinuteMen standing by to deport illegal Democrat voters back to Mexico!!!!! Hey Democrat!!! Where’s your PITURE ID???????]

  49. 49

    James Webb is now ahead of George Allen by more than the margin of error in the latest polls. Way to smack ’em down George! Why don’t you beat up a couple old ladies today? Why lose by only 4 points when you can go for complete, utter, total humiliation!!!

  50. 50

    Only 5 More Days!

    INVESTIGATONS! SUBPOENAS! TRIALS! PINK JUMPSUITS! PRISON LOAF! CHAIN GANGS!

    I’m gonna ENJOY this …

    HAR HAR HRA HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HRA HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HRA HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HRA HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HRA HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HRA HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  51. 51

    Here’s some FACTS for ‘Headless Lucy’ re Kerry the Fairy’s grades vs Bushs at Yale.
    ————
    In 1999, The New Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had received a cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and a roughly similar average under a non-numerical rating system during his senior year.

    Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a cumulative 76 for his four years, according to a transcript that Kerry sent to the Navy when he was applying for officer training school. He received four D’s in his freshman year out of 10 courses, but improved his average in later years.

    The grade transcript, which Kerry has always declined to release, was included in his Navy record. During the campaign the Globe sought Kerry’s naval records, but he refused to waive privacy restrictions for the full file. Late last month, Kerry gave the Navy permission to send the documents to the Globe.

    RELATED STORY: Kerry allows Navy release of military, medical records

    Kerry appeared to be responding to critics who suspected that there might be damaging information in the file about his activities in Vietnam. The military and medical records, however, appear identical to what Kerry has already released. This marks the first time Kerry’s grades have been publicly reported.

    The transcript shows that Kerry’s freshman-year average was 71. He scored a 61 in geology, a 63 and 68 in two history classes, and a 69 in political science. His top score was a 79, in another political science course. Another of his strongest efforts, a 77, came in French class.

    Under Yale’s grading system in effect at the time, grades between 90 and 100 equaled an A, 80-89 a B, 70-79 a C, 60 to 69 a D, and anything below that was a failing grade. In addition to Kerry’s four D’s in his freshman year, he received one D in his sophomore year. He did not fail any courses.

    ‘’I always told my Dad that D stood for distinction,” Kerry said yesterday in a written response to questions, noting that he has previously acknowledged that he spent a lot of time learning to fly instead of focusing on his studies.

    Kerry’s weak grades came despite years of education at some of the world’s most elite prep schools, ranging from Fessenden School in Massachusetts to St. Paul’s School in New Hampshire.
    ———————-

    Hahahahaha!!! Kerry “strong in French..” no surprise there, huh? Told his dad a grade of ‘D’ meant “distinction”, huh? Hahaha. Maybe his dad smoked as much pot as Kerry did and believed his fairy tale?

Drinking Liberally

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The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

I’ve got no idea if any special guests are scheduled to stop by tonight, but I’m guessing that with the election only two weeks away, it should be a pretty good crowd.

Not in Seattle? Washington liberals will also be drinking tonight in the Tri-Cities and Vancouver. Here’s a full run down of WA’s ten Drinking Liberally chapters:

Where: When: Next Meeting:
Burien: Mick Kelly’s Irish Pub, 435 SW 152nd St Fourth Wednesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward October 25
Kirkland: Valhalla Bar & Grill, 8544 122nd Ave NE Every Thursday, 7:00 pm onward October 25
Monroe: Eddie’s Trackside Bar and Grill, 214 N Lewis St Second Wednesday of each month, 7:00 PM onward November 8
Olympia: The Tumwater Valley Bar and Grill, 4611 Tumwater Valley Drive South First and third Monday of each month, 7:00-9:00 pm November 6
Seattle: Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Ave E Every Tuesday, 8:00 pm onward October 24
Spokane: Red Lion BBQ & Pub, 126 N Division St Every Wednesday, 7:00 pm October 25
Tacoma: Meconi’s Pub, 709 Pacific Ave Every Wednesday, 8:00 pm onward November 1
Tri-Cities: Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd, Richland Every Tuesday, 7:00 pm onward October 24
Vancouver: Hazel Dell Brew Pub, 8513 NE Highway 99 Second and fourth Tuesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward October 24
Walla Walla: The Green Lantern, 1606 E Isaacs Ave First Friday of each month, 8:00 pm onward November 3

(And apparently there’s also an unaffiliated liberal drinking group in Olympia that meets every Monday at 7PM at the Brotherhood Lounge, 119 N. Capital Way.)

Comments

  2. 53

    Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL because the GOP Thought Police are out to get me! I spend most of my time underground in my concrete-reinforced computer bunker, which can survive a direct hit from hardened dog poop. Occasionally I stick my wet black nose out of my burrow, sniff the air, and if no danger is detected I put my head out a little further and look around. When conditions are right, I dash across the walkway and dive into one of my back-up holes. It’s a riot watching the dog owners get

  4. 55

    pulled off their feet! The dogs can’t catch me because I have tremendous burst speed for short distances. I can run circles around O.J. in the 50-yard dash. In fact, I was offered an NFL contract, until the commissioner ruled that ball carriers have to be human, which ended that. Too bad. I would have been famous!

  5. 56

    wow! this thread is already up to 5 posts! That’s more than Stefan’s pathetic little blog gets all day! He has to post on his own blog under a dozen screen names or he wouldn’t get any traffic at all. Nobody else reads it.

  6. 57

    Yeah Goldy I think you oughta invite Stefan to DL sometime. I’d like to ask him if he’s going to plant CARROTS in his garden next year! YUMMY!!! I LOVE CARROTS!!! I also want to know why he didn’t share the proceeds of his lawsuit against King County with the generous contributors to his “legal action fund” who helped pay for his lawsuit. I also want to ask him why he never posts anything on his pathetic little partisan blog about GOP election dirty tricks.

  7. 58

    In a previous thread, Mark1 was complaining about my Republican-bashing. These guys call us commies, traitors, terrorist-huggers, etc., and then cry when we bash them. What a bunch of chickenshits! Buh-uh cluck-cluck-cluck!! Fucking crybabies!! Hey Mark1, reading HA is a voluntary activity!!! Nobody asked you to do it. HA is a saloon brawl. If you can’t stand the brawl, get out of the saloon! Thank God we have trolls with more fortitude than Mark1 to provide the entertainment here.

  8. 59

    “Mussulmans”, Moslem or, more accurately, Muslim (From the source of Islam) ,
    Mahometan (now rare), Moorman (East India), Turk (because so many Turks are … Mooooooooooooooooooooslims!!!

    from, The JCH Dictionary for Propeller-Beanie Wearers

  9. 60

    I figured out why the stock market is reaching new high’s … It is because there anticipating a hugh democratic win in the house and senate in a few week…….. :-)

  10. 61

    PORT COMMISSIONERS MOVE TO FATTEN CEO’S PENSION

    The Seattle Fish Wrapper reports:

    “Mic Dinsmore is paid more than any other top executive at a major U.S. port, and he’s due to retire in less than six months. Today Port of Seattle commissioners … consider awarding him a … raise that would … lock in an extra $3,000 a year in future state pension benefits.

    “If he gets the raise, the 61-year-old Dinsmore would have a final pay packet of $339,841 a year — substantially more than his peers at other big ports — and more than double the $150,995 Gov. Christine Gregoire earns as chief executive of the state.

    “Commission President Patricia Davis said she thinks he’s earned an annual raise, and she is confident the commission will give it to him. But several commissioners said Dinsmore’s performance as chief executive officer doesn’t merit such an increase.

    “‘I’m disappointed in our financial performance this year,’ Commissioner Alec Fisken said. He cited a proposal to increase the Port’s tax levy … as well as plans to build a new cargo terminal that would require the Port to tear down an $18.2 million cruise-ship terminal opened in 2003.

    “Under the Port’s pay-for-performance system, Dinsmore would need to be rated ‘outstanding’ to qualify for the top 6 percent raise. Commissioner Lloyd Hara gives Dinsmore a grade of ‘progressing,’ which carries a zero to 2 percent raise. ‘Have we had a greater tonnage through here? No,’ Hara said.

    “Commissioner John Creighton said some commissioners proposed a 10 percent raise. ‘I just thought that was not warranted,’ Creighton said. Even the 6 percent proposed raise is on the high side of what he wanted, he said.”

    Dinsmore also receives supplemental deferred compensation that “would be highly controversial if this were a CEO of a public corporation,” according to the article, which continues,

    “The Port would not say how much Dinsmore has built up in his deferred-compensation account. But based on his contract, he apparently will receive more than $362,000 in deferred compensation from the Port in a lump sum when he retires early next year.

    “Dinsmore also is enrolled in the state’s Public Employee Retirement System. Under that plan, he’s eligible for about $85,387 a year when he retires. If he gets the … raise, his annual retirement benefit would rise to about $88,395.”

    For complete story and/or copyright info, see http://tinyurl.com/ynauxx

    If the port commissioners want to give Dinsmore a fatter pension, they should pay for it themselves, instead of taking it out of the funds that pay my meager pension for my 30 years of drudgery in the state dungeons!

    Too bad Richard Pope lost his port commissioner race. This shit wouldn’t happen if he were there. Richard is pretty close to being a cheap labor conservative — you know, those guys who think employees should work free. Since the port commissioner job is part-time, Richard might be able to handle it despite the problems in his chaotic personal life, although I think running a full-time court is another matter. That’s why I voted for your OPPONENT in the N.E. District Court race, Richard, even though you talk a good game here in the HA comment threads. But if you run for port commissioner again, I might vote for you! It would be hard to fuck up that job any worse than Davis is fucking up.

    And they want us to pay TAXES to the port. Sheesh!!! That’s like paying taxes to pay basketball players’ salaries.

  12. 63

    King County Republicans get it wrong.

    They developed the website http://www.debeddyspropertytax.com that shows an amazing chart (click on her picture) of Kirkland’s “out of control spending” while Deb Eddy was mayor.

    Too bad the actual data shows a very different story. Here it’s put together nicely by the city of Lynnwood comparing itself to Kirkland and others (during the timeframe mentioned in the misleading KC GOP site).

    http://www.ci.lynnwood.wa.us/D.....atives.pdf

  13. 64

    Oh yeah, another item in today’s news is the Bush administration is signaling it may increase troop levels in Iraq. You know — escalation. Richard Nixon is laughing in his grave!

  14. 65

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    Oops! Republicans are caught LYING again! Like those slimeballs who told black voters that Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican, and that GOP candidate in California who mailed a letter to 14,000 Hispanic voters saying they’d go to jail for voting — and then denied knowing anything about it.

    Why are all Republicans such shameless fucking LIARS?!!

  15. 66

    I wonder why Stefan never writes anything on his blog about GOP dirty tricks. Do you suppose it’s because he’s nothing but a partisan propagandist like me? Except the difference between me and Stefan is I don’t put up with Democratic dishonesty, corruption, or dirty tricks. For example, I criticized those Milwaukee Democrats who slashed tires! The tires didn’t do anything; the tires were innocent. They should have gone inside the building and slashed the Republicans throats instead — HEY JUST KIDDING!!! Ann Coulter gets paid for writing shit like that; I’m just an unpaid amateur who does it for fun. If she can do it for money, why can’t I do it for kicks? After all, since Coulter is a Republican and all the Republicans wildly cheered her for cracking jokes about killing liberals, they established the precedent for this kind of thing.

  16. 67

    I see Roger is in top form today. I just want to remind everyone that my department will pay $50.00 for that rodent’s belt, dead or alive!

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    17

    Why don’t you try to collect it yourself or are you too chickenshit. Bu-uh cluck-cluck-cluck! You must be a Republican. I’ll meet you at 7 PM at my burrow. Go to the big tree on the east side of the lake, take several paces to the left, and look for the hole. Bring a gun.

  18. 69

    10 Remember (well, you probably weren’t there, Roger) when Lloyd Hara came to DL and told us he’s the only Port Commissioner with a background in accounting, and they won’t let him be on the audit committee. Hmmm.

    He also pointed out that being a Commissioner is essentially a full-time job that pays only $500 a month–so most commissioners tend to either be retirees (which he is), independently wealthy, or open to…uh….shall we say, temptation? Also sounds like it would have been a lousy deal for Richard and his daughter had he actually won.

  19. 70

    Mohammat? Muhammad? Muhammet? Mohammedans? Moslems? Muslims? The hell with it JCH: Mooooooooooooooooooooslims!!!

    Happy now?

    Commentby headless lucy— 10/24/06@ 4:08 pm

    Moooooooooooooooooooooslims! Terrorist Moooooooooooooooooooooslims!! Black Mooooooooooooslims!! Democrat Mooooooooooooooooooooslims!! Raghead Moooooooooooooslims!! Whatever……….All are the enemy and need to be destroyed!!!

  20. 71

    Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooslims vote Democrat!! Terrorist Mooooooooooooooooooooooslims vote Democrat!! Illegal alien Mooooooooooooooooooooooooslims vote Democrat!! Welfare hack Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooslims vote Democrat! Louis Farhahkan Moooooooooooooooooooslims vote Democrat!! HA.ORG liberal “progressive” Mooooooooooooslims vote Democrat!! Whatever………..All are enemies of Americans and need to be deported to Mooooooooooooooslimland!!

  21. 72

    Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooslims vote Democrat!! Terrorist Mooooooooooooooooooooooslims vote Democrat!! Illegal alien Mooooooooooooooooooooooooslims vote Democrat!! Welfare hack Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooslims vote Democrat! Louis Farhahkan Moooooooooooooooooooslims vote Democrat!! HA.ORG liberal “progressive” Mooooooooooooslims vote Democrat!! Whatever………..All are enemies of Americans and need to be deported to Mooooooooooooooslimland!!

  22. 73

    In a move some fear could open an avenue for terrorism, prospective cabbies would no longer have to prove they are in the country legally, under a measure proposed by taxi officials, The Post has learned. The Taxi and Limousine Commission will vote Wednesday on whether to reduce driver requirements to just a valid driver’s license and Social Security card and do away with proof of legal residency or citizenship. [……….Mooooooooooooooooslim terrorists in New York can do anything they please as long as they vote Democrat!!! This is classic!!!]

  23. 74

    20 et seq.

    Hey would you trolls please remember to flush after taking a shit? You’re stinking up the place.

  25. 76

    Hey, JCH, you pathetic piece of shit,
    I know that logic is alien to you, but I thought I’d ask anyway: if Muslims are such detestable creatures, then why is your president sending our troops over their to die so that an Islamic nation might attain “freedom”? Oh, and by the way, did I forget to tell you that you’re a pathetic piece of shit?

  26. 77

    re 21, 22 23: The up-side to your lunacy is that any undecided person who happens to read this blog will definitely NOT be voting Republican.

    You are the best proselyte for Liberal views than anyone!

  27. 78

    Even “Gun Totin’ Dutch-Doored Negress Lesbians” are less dirty than your pernicious mind, JCH.

  28. 79

    Kill one American, lose one Moooooooooooooooooslim city. I figure after 4 or 5 Mooooooooooooslim cities are turned to glass, the Moooooooooooooooooooooslim terrorists might cop a clue. First on the list: capital of Iran. Then Demascus. Then Mecca? Regardless, the Mooooooooooslims will soon learn not to fuck with Americans.

  29. 80

    Headless Lucy, The Moooooooooooooslims want you in charge because you’re a pussy.

  30. 81

    “Give in to Moooooooooooooslim terrorists! Vote Democrat!!!” [Headless Lucy]

  31. 82

    All long as Moooooooooooooooooslims vote Democrat, NOTHING will be done to stop terrorist Mooooooooooooooslims!!!

  32. 83

    The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) released a poll of 1,000 registered Moooooooooooooooooooooslim terrorist voters in the United States two weeks before U.S. Congressional elections.

    A total of 84 percent of those surveyed said they consider themselves members of the Democratic Party, none say they are Republicans and 16 percent say they do not belong to any party.

  33. 84

    Qweshun for you Burner supporters out there:

    Why do you think single mothers should be forced to pay $2000 per year more in taxes?

    Just wondering…

  34. 85

    Folks, only in Seattle will the congregation treat people who are trying to save their schools so cruelly. Now all those years teaching them political correctness and they turn on you like rabid dogs Mr. Manhas had the right idea but lack the support from the school board and the teachers union. Now they will close the schools down and bus their undisciplined brats to the Eastside for an education. Wow Goldy your daughter will now have a future after all when she learns math, spelling, English, and reading. The school district will now be divided into four districts with new superintends earning about quarter the income. The Teacher Union should be excluded from representing the teachers for six years and the teacher should all reapply for their new jobs. Last but not least the parents should all be sent to political reeducation camps and educated on manners plus plain respect.
    By ROBERT L. JAMIESON Jr.
    P-I COLUMNIST
    “Go back to India!” a crazed man shouted at last week’s Seattle School Board meeting. The verbal blast flew like buckshot at Raj Manhas, the beleaguered superintendent of Seattle Public Schools. What Manhas thought when those words peppered him was probably along these lines — no job is worth putting up with mean-spirited and personally petty rudeness.
    What he said Monday — that he was quitting “in the interests of my family” — was surprise news that a few in Seattle might have seen coming.
    The ignorant words at the meeting drew last blood, but Manhas was never really comfortable in his public skin.
    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....ert24.html

  35. 86

    Tell me again… what exactly is it you’re running against?

    Can’t be the economy… stock market at all time high, unemployment at all time lows, personal wealth at all time high, home ownership at all time high…

    Can’t be security… no attacks since 911 and you guys are clearly on the side of mooslim terrorists…

    Can’t be the environment… global warming problem has been solved since there were ZERO hurricanes this year. None. Not one fucking one. BTW, does that make you wonder about your gawd Algore?

  37. 88

    How the fuck did this happen???

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6077018.stm

    I thought you guys said this problem was solved. I thought eliminating CFCs fixed all this. Shit, that’s what I was told? Could it be bullshit?

    While yer at it, please answer the following:

    1) How does a gas heavier than air somehow rise thirty fucking miles into the atomosphere. Explain the transport mechanism in some detail.

    2) Explain how the 1% of man made gases puts it over the edge.

    3) Explain why the “scientists” who promote this shit can’t get the reaction between ozone and fluorine to work in the lab.

    4) Explain how you get ozone depletion data when it’s not actually measured.

    5) Explain why there is no increase in rates of skin cancer. Explain why the plants that should be impacted aren’t.

    Just wondering…

    Fucking gullible idiots…. it’s easy to be a liburl isn’t it? Just drink the fucking kool aid…

  38. 89

    Which one of you troglodytes is Ed Orcutt? Mark? JCH? Klake?

    Hey Ed, give back the Abramoff money.

  39. 90

    Look what you have now done pulled your ads for Jim McDermott. Wow Goldy cleaning house today?
    Goldy why are you running ads for Jim McDermott on your web site? Why do your friends beat up on Republicans about their sins, and you all embrace this chap that supported Saddam’s war efforts? Now is Jimmy your new Icon for the Socialist Democrat Party, and you all now embrace everything he stands for today? Goldy when is he going to pay up his debt?

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....cdermott29 m.html

    WASHINGTON — A federal appeals court ruled Tuesday that U.S. Rep. Jim McDermott violated federal law by turning over an illegally taped telephone call to reporters nearly a decade ago.
    In a 2-1 opinion, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia ruled that McDermott violated the rights of House Majority Leader John Boehner, who was heard on the 1996 call involving former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.
    The court ordered McDermott to pay Boehner more than $700,000 for leaking the taped conversation. The figure includes $60,000 in damages and more than $600,000 in legal costs.
    McDermott, D-Seattle, leaked a tape to The New York Times and other news organizations

  41. 92

    Hey GBS aka Rakeface – re 44… LMAO… call me “chilling” again. Tell me I’m “morally repugnant”. You fucking idiot…

  42. 93

    Big media push on obama running for prez. Has dnc figured out that Her Thighness is unfuckingelectable? Do they think she’s too divisive?

    Or do they want him to be her boy on the ticket?

  43. 94

    Why was John Kerry not in prison for his war crimes? Now I voted for the war and now I don’t vote for war? Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! John what did you really do in Paris in the 1970’s???????????????????????? This chap is what represented the Socialist Democrat Party in the last elections. The question now who represents the Socialist Democrat Party today???????????????????
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fFS8TEMxKI&NR

  44. 95

    I sure hope Newt decides to run. Can you imagine having a real Reagan conservative? wow… things would be great…

  45. 96

    Klake – JFK admitted to war crimes. Freely admitted. Proud of it in fact…

  47. 98

    JCH @ 34:

    Interesting number.

    I seem to recall something about Arab-Americans really loving Bush after getting the Taliban out of Afghanistan and removing Saddam from Iraq.

    I guess politics really is a question of “What have you done for me lately?”

    No worries though. You have the vote for plutocrats against the estate tax completely sewed up. That’ll be good for 2% of the vote anyhow.

  49. 100

    re 38: Don’t forget, the full quote is: “ON AVERAGE”! Do you think they are taking out the high end of the average. Not on your pathetic life.

    Numbers don’t lie , but liars use numbers — and that liar would be you.

    I don’t care if some rich bitch pays a little more in taxes and skews the average. Go fuck yourself turdman.

  50. 101

    JCH: Moo-slim!!! The dairy diet drink that works like God’s own Messenger to blow off those pounds like nobody’s business!

    You oughta try it!

  52. 103

    Mark the Idiot @ 42- I explained to you on earlier threads. An increase in skin cancer in Antarctica is unlikely as there is very little exposed skin.

    Idiot

  53. 104

    @ 10

    Not only is Dinsmore getting a raise, watch for a very big deal to be announced, likely tomorrow.

  54. 105

    30

    Sounds like a good argument for every crackpot Muslim regime on the planet to acquire nuclear weapons as fast as they can. With you egging them on, I’m sure every mullah east of Suez will have his own ICBMs within 15 years.

  55. 106

    Tax Cuts and Fed Revenue

    Roger Rabbit is full of shit when he denies the link between cutting tax rates and subsequent increases in federal revenue.
    http://www.treas.gov/press/rel.....growth.jpg
    http://www.heritage.org/resear.....s_R/R1.cfm

    Federal revenues http://www.treas.gov/press/rel.....growth.jpg
    2000 – 2,020,000,000,000
    2001 – 1,990,000,000,000
    2002 – 1,850,000,000,000
    2003 – 1,790,000,000,000 – Jobs Act
    2004 – 1,875,000,000,000
    2005 – 2,160,000,000,000 – Highest level ever.

  57. 108

    MTR-

    Now explain to me how it is good that the surpluses turned to record deficits.

    And tell me more about skin cancer.

    Fool

  58. 109

    40, 41

    I think Mark the Redneck Welsher should be required to pay $1 per post until his gambling debt is PIF.

  59. 110

    44

    Out of date, klake. Your link is no good, and the judgment against McDermott has been vacated. If you pull your head out of your ass once in a while and take a look around, you might have a better idea of what’s going on in the world.

  60. 111

    46

    Anyone who bets money on the outcome of an election and then refuses to pay after losing both the election and the bet is MORALLY REPUGNANT on the following grounds:

    Lying
    Stealing
    Cheating
    Welshing
    Fraud

  61. 112

    Can one of oue Republican-apologist friends explain how we are doing a good job managinfg the reconstruction of Iraq?

    “Those overhead costs have ranged from under 20 percent to as much as 55 percent of the budgets, according to the report, by the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction. On similar projects in the United States, those costs generally run to a few percent.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10.....r=homepage

    Unless you believe shoveling money to Bush cronies is a good thing.

  62. 113

    47

    I don’t think Obama should run for president. Not yet. It’s not enough to be electable, you have to be able to govern. State legislature experience plus two years in the U.S. Senate is not enough preparation for the White House. He needs more seasoning and experience before he’s ready for the Big Job. Obama would be a compelling candidate if he served as Illinois governor before running for president — a big-state heartland governor with Senate experience would make a fantastic candidate!

  63. 114

    47 (continued)

    Of course Republicans will demonize Hillary because they can’t run against her on issues. Republicans lose on all the issues. I mean, how can they win by saying, “our platform is to fuck over 95% of you for the benefit of the other 5%?” So they have to throw rocks and keep voters from thinking about things like …

    $2.13 an hour wages
    47 million Americans with no health care
    Endless and pointless war
    Dragging America’s reputation through the gutter
    Corporate welfare = 5 times as much $$$ as individual welfare
    Hundreds of billions of $$$ in corruption
    Eliminating Social Security and Medicare
    Bush Inflation Tax
    Shitty job market

  66. 117

    Reply to 51

    In one word — yes. He couldn’t possibly do worse than your trained chimp.

  69. 120

    62

    Redneck, let’s try it without Social Security taxes, as Social Security taxes weren’t cut:

    2000 – $1,372,376,000,000 (baseline year)
    2001 – $1,297,063,000,000
    2002 – $1,152,413,000,000
    2003 – $1,069,364,000,000
    2004 – $1,146,664,000,000
    2005 – $1,279,114,000,000 (estimate)

    Source of data: http://www.taxpolicycenter.org.....?Docid=203

    By the way, you fucking liar, I never said there was no link between revenue and tax cuts — not even close! What I said was:

    A tax rate of 0% results in no revenue. A tax rate of 100% results in no revenue, because there’s no incentive for economic activity. Therefore, a tax rate somewhere between 0% and 100% produces the maximum amount of revenue. When the tax rate is below this point, as it is most of the time in a democracy, a cut in the tax rate will result in less revenue. When the tax rate is above this point, a cut in the tax rate will result in more revenue.

    Now, the link between tax rates and revenue is so clear in that analysis that it grabs you by the nuts and squeezes hard — if you bother to read it. We can only assume Redneck is an illiterate fuck, because he clearly hasn’t read what I wrote.

    Redneck was full of shit when he said tax cuts always increase revenue. Just look at the numbers above. Hell, look at HIS number, unadjusted for FICA revenue! It took five years for gross federal revenues to catch up with where they were before Bush’s tax cuts. And you know why they’re catching up? Three reasons:

    1) Higher corporate tax collections on record corporate profits. (Note: Republicans want to eliminate corporate taxes.)

    2) Higher individual tax collections from CEOs skimming record salaries off corporate profits. (Note: A significant amount of CEO income was stolen from shareholders by backdating options.)

    3) Population growth. More people = bigger economy = more tax revenues. Duh-uh.

    Bush’s tax cuts did NOT produce higher revenues — they produced record deficits … and inflation. Fucking liar.

  71. 122

    RR it would be great if newt ran, 95% chance that the Dems retain the House, win the Senate and win the Presidency to boot. Every sane person knows that anyone that mark the welsher or kkklake support are morally inept and lying POSs.

  72. 123

    As further evidence of Reichert’s poor voting record when it comes to Veterans. The IAVA ( Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America ) rated his voting record a [b]D+[/b].

    (copied from IAVA’s website to explain how they derived their ratings)

    Each IAVA Congressional Rating is based on a given legislator’s voting history on issues that affect US Troops, Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans and military families.

    To calculate the Ratings, IAVA reviewed all legislation voted on in the Congress since September 11, 2001. For each piece of legislation that affected troops, veterans or military families, IAVA took a position either in support of, or in opposition to its passage. The letter grades were derived, using the scales below, from the percentage of times that each legislator’s vote matched the official IAVA stance.

    A total of 169 House votes and 155 Senate votes were used to determine the ratings. You can view all of this legislation, either in a complete list or grouped by session, by clicking here. http://capwiz.com/iava/keyvotes.xc/?lvl=C

    IAVA is a non-partisan, non-profit organization. These ratings were determined using a simple and transparent mathematical formula.

    House
    A+ 97-100
    A 93-96
    A- 90-92
    B+ 87-89
    B 83-86
    B- 80-82
    C+ 77-79
    C 73-76
    C- 70-72
    D+ 67-69
    D 63-66
    D- 60-62
    F Below 60

    Senate

    A+ 98-100
    A 94-97
    A- 90-93
    B+ 86-89
    B 82-85
    B- 78-81
    C+ 74-77
    C 70-73
    C- 66-69
    D+ 62-65
    D 58-61
    D- 55-57
    F Below 55

    These scales are based on a traditional grading scale. Due to the nature and high number of unanimous consent agreements in the Senate, we adjusted the grading scale to ensure an even distribution of grades.

    Information on Sample Legislation
    TRICARE for Reservists
    (108th Congress; Senate vote #282; July 16, 2003)
    # Senators who voted in favor of this amendment were voting to allow Reservists and National Guard soldiers to buy-into the Defense Department’s health insurance plan at subsidized rates. IAVA supported this legislation.
    # TRICARE is the Defense Department’s health insurance plan that is available at no cost to soldiers serving on active duty. Reservists and National Guard soldiers who are mobilized receive free TRICARE for a short period of time before and after their deployments. In 2003, a GAO report stated that 20% of these soldiers did not have health care insurance. This legislation was designed to address that problem.
    # The Senate’s plan was adopted and enacted into law.

    TRICARE for Reservists
    (109th Congress; House vote # 221; May 25, 2005)
    # Representatives who voted in favor of this motion were voting to extend free health care to all Reserve and National Guard soldiers. IAVA supported this legislation.
    # After 2003 (see above), Congress extended TRICARE to allow Reservists and National Guard soldiers to buy-in at subsidized rates, dependent on their deployment status. Still many soldiers have not bought into the system and lack health insurance coverage.
    # Although the medical readiness of the Reserves and National Guard is vital to the security of this nation, Congress refused to extend free TRICARE coverage to Reservists and National Guard soldiers.

    Military Death Gratuity
    (109th Congress; Senate vote #92; April 13, 2005)
    # Senators who voted FOR this motion were voting AGAINST increasing the amount of money a spouse or family member receives when their loved one is killed in Iraq or Afghanistan. IAVA opposed this motion, which would have eliminated the proposed increase.
    # Prior to this bill, the family of a US troop killed in action would only receive a $12,000 death gratuity from the government. This bill would increase that amount to $100,000.
    # The motion was defeated, and the plan was adopted and enacted into law.

    Funding for TBI Research
    (109th Congress; Senate vote #222; August 2, 2006)
    # Senators who voted FOR this motion were voting AGAINST increasing funding for Traumatic Brain Injury research by $2 million. IAVA opposed this motion.
    # Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI) has become the signature wound of the Iraq war. In a spending bill appropriating more than $400 billion, in a war that has cost hundreds of billions of dollars and counting, it is unconscionable that Congress can’t find an extra $2 million to treat an injury affecting more than 100,000 American Troops.
    # Despite a clear need for greater funding for TBI research, this motion passed.

  73. 124

    70

    The thing is the Republicans do keep winning, even though all the bad stuff you listed is part of their agenda. And huge deficits. There’s a reason Ross Perot published United We Stand and Paul Tsongas released his Call to Economic Arms but the no Republican candidate came out with anything similar in the early 1990s. They were too busy running up the country credit card. So my thinking is that Americans who vote really want this stuff. More Katrina horrors, please. More people in debt please. More uneducated people in low paying jobs please. Either that, or they’re brainwashed.

    I sure haven’t been able to make the Yanks out. 80% of the people living outside the US haven’t been able to figure out how shifting from a manufacturing to a consumption-only society is a good thing.

  76. 127

    “Go back to India!” David Goldstein shouted at last week’s Seattle School Board meeting.

    Hey – parodies appear all the time here in the land of te Furballettes!

  77. 128

    10 Remember (well, you probably weren’t there, Roger) when Lloyd Hara came to DL and told us he’s the only Port Commissioner with a background in accounting, and they won’t let him be on the audit committee. Hmmm. Comment by ArtFart

    ArtFart: What do you expect when moonbats are in charge of the cookie jar? Hey’ it’s your county. Just ax that genius of racism Lucy Head!

  79. 130

    bet welsher – pay your fucking gambling debt to Goldy. Commentby For the Clueless— 10/24/06@ 7:53 pm

    I’m glad mommy (your wife) allowed you to come and play in the sand box. Another mental giant on HorsesAss!

  81. 132

    Furball: More bullshittium?

    President Bush entered office, the total federal debt – including debt to the public and debt owed the Social Security system – has risen from $5.7 trillion to $8.6 trillion.

    http://taxprof.typepad.com/.sh.....gorized/re venue20growth.jpg

    Why does this chart report tax receipts of $2.15 Trillion for 2005? Why are your numbers so depressed? Maybe Furball you are depressing!

    Why do you not post the $2.41 Trillion for 2006?

    The Treasury’s data revealed that the federal government spent $2.65 trillion in FY 2006 and collected $2.41 trillion. Individual income tax receipts totalled $1.04 trillion compared to $927 billion collected in FY 2005 and the $997.6 billion originally estimated in the FY 2006 budget. Corporate tax receipts totalled $354 billion, up from $278.3 billion in FY 2005 and the $277.1 billion originally estimated in the FY 2006 budget. The rest was other receipts.

    My numbers DO NOT INCLUDE SS. Yours is as Puddy said… BULLSHITTIUM?

  82. 133

    87

    Oh no we are all going to die. This is unexceptable. I want to live to see to see the day when we burn up in a fiery natural catastophe.

  84. 135

    discuss amoungst yourselves………
    “You gotta love Robin Williams…… Even if he’s
    nuts! Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with
    the perfect plan. What we need now is for our UN
    Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message.
    He is seen wearing a t-shirt saying “I love New
    York!” written in arabic.

    Robin Williams’ plan…(Hard to argue with this
    logic!)

    “I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I
    have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here’s
    one plan.”

    1) “The US will apologize to the world for our
    “interference” in their affairs, past & present.
    You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo,
    Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of
    those “good ole boys”, we will never “interfere”
    again.

    2) We will withdraw our troops from all over the
    world, starting with Germany , South Korea , the
    Middle East, and the Philippines . They don’t
    want us there. We would station troops at our
    borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes
    in the fence.

    3) All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their
    affairs together and leave.We’ll give them a free
    trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be
    gathered up and deported immediately, regardless
    of whom or where they are. They’re illegal!!!
    France will welcome them.

    4) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked
    and limited to 90 days unless given a special
    permit!!!! No one from a terrorist nation will
    be allowed in. If you don’t like it there,
    change it yourself and don’t hide here. Asylum
    would never be available to anyone. We don’t
    need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.

    5) No foreign “students” over age 21. The older
    ones are the bombers. If they don’t attend
    classes, they get a “D” and it’s back home baby.

    6) The US will make a strong effort to become
    self-sufficient energy wise. This will include
    developing nonpolluting sources of energy but
    will require a temporary drilling of oil in the
    Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to
    cope for a while.

    7) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing
    countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they
    don’t like it, we go someplace else. They can go
    somewhere else to sell their production. (About
    a week of the wells filling up the storage sites
    would be enough.)

    8) If there is a famine or other natural
    catastrophe in the world, we will not
    “interfere.” They can pray to Allah or whomever,
    for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need.
    Besides most of what we give them is stolen or
    given to the army. The people who need it most
    get very little, if anything.

    9) Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island
    someplace. We don’t need the spies and fair
    weather friends here. Besides, the building would
    make a good homeless shelter or lockup for
    illegal aliens.

    10) All Americans must go to charm and beauty
    school. That way, no one can call us “Ugly
    Americans” any longer. The Language we speak is
    ENGLISH…learn it…or LEAVE…Now, isn’t that a
    winner of a plan?

    “The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying “Give
    me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses.”
    She’s got a baseball bat and she’s yelling, ‘you
    want a piece of me?’ ”

    If you agree with the above forward it to
    friends…If not, and I would be amazed, DELETE
    it!!”

  85. 136

    Dope on the rope is out their digging up sleaze on people again over at (U)sp

    I think we need to address this unqualified candidate.

    Here he attacks the people who want to uphold the constitution.

    We want this as a Judge?
    Why is he always trying to leave his Law practice, to get elected?
    Is it hard work Richard?
    Or like any Republican, you feel the big money is working in government, and getting the lobbyist money for your retirement.

    Here’s what I posted over at Sleaze central. They don’t have values to post on, only fear.

    As for Dope on rope Pope at 24

    Maybe as private citizens they don’t want the sleaze like you and the guppy prying into their personal lives in attempt to ruin them.
    (Hey maybe that’s why they want to protect the constitution?)
    As for you, you ARE running for office, and when you put up sign with your name on them enough time, you gain name recognition.
    At least this time you were smart enough not to put the (R) like your pals Mike! and Sheriff Hairdo don’t want to do either.

    So why is it that Goldy likes you? I don’t know. You’re an often reprimanded attorney, and a perenial candidate for any position out there.
    This probably leads to your failure to give adequate council to your clients. (I’d love to see your referral list, mostly from jail I suspect) Goldy must relate to you because you are both single fathers.

    But you are a Candidate. So did you kill your wife, or beat or cheat on her? Are your divorce or murder trial papers open for us to look at?
    Where can I go look them up, and get them published?

    You want to be a Judge with those qualifications?
    What is it a Daddy Bush thing? You want to get back at them for beating the hell out of an unqualified attorney as a Judge?
    Come on Repugs, we know you love money more than anything, can you imagine the cost of appeals from this judges rulings?
    Any attorney would be a fool not to file on a Pope ruling, the odds are in their favor, he does not know the law and is most likely wrong.

    Come on, how about a little public disclosure on you. Let everyone know that you are a professional candidate with a worse record than the 62 Mets. You have multiple reprimands for failures in court, and that you beat your wife.

    I can’t believe that those little red signs are doing the trick for you. It is definetely not your ACTUAL qualifications.

    I think if you get in, It just shows how lazy the populice is in finding out about the candidates.

    I think I will file my grievance now, that your signs are still out on the streets well after the time, by Law (the thing your running for, in case you didn’t know) need to be removed.
    I think those come with a cash penalty per sign.

    Yours and the guppies dirty sleaze hunts, make it why good people don’t run for office. Then we are left with the likes of you.

    YUK

  87. 138

    ghost @ 92:

    The last phrase (with the Statue of Liberty) is Robin Williams. The rest is some anonymous right-wing crank.

    The fact that you think the world can be fixed using advice from someone who thinks like my Uncle Walter (before about 3 p.m. when the booze really kicks in and he starts getting plumb mean), explains a lot about a great many things.

  88. 139

    xmasHAG @ 92
    deleted with prejudice! (long time, who let you out of the toilet? ProugofherinbredASS or WackingHisPuddyWhileDoingMWS?

  91. 142

    92 CG

    “We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany , South Korea , the Middle East, and the Philippines . They don’t want us there.”

    But Iraq is the central front on the War on Terra! No wonder we can’t trust Republicans to keep us safe.

  92. 143

    13 RR

    “Oh yeah, another item in today’s news is the Bush administration is signaling it may increase troop levels in Iraq.”

    But there ARE no more troops.

  93. 144

    38 MTR

    “Why do you think single mothers should be forced to pay $2000 per year more in taxes?”

    Why don’t you lay out the numbers for us so we can have some reason to believe you? I don’t berlieve that the Bush tax cuts reduced your average single working mother’s taxes by tahtamount.

    Oh, and when you do, please factor in that Nancy Pelosi is saying that the Decmorats will seek to roll back cuts for those making over $200K, and that she will be setting the agenda and not a first-term Representative.

  94. 145

    Oh no we are all going to die. This is unexceptable. I want to live to see to see the day when we burn up in a fiery natural catastophe.

    That whooshing sound you are hearing is the point cruising overhead.

  95. 146

    Why to be worried about Attack Dog Republicans. Check out this King County GOP website attacking Dem. Deb Eddy. At the bottom, you can see that they impore people to (and this is a DIRECT QUOTE): “If you care about constitutional rights to free speach, call Deb Eddy at (425) 454-0443.”

    That’s right. Free Speach. Speach.

    Here’s the link: http://debeddyspropertytax.com/crime.html

  96. 147

    I love it when idiots like MTR (and his ilk) tout the “Republican Economic Recovery”. Gee, this past week the stock market finally passed early 2001 levels?

    I did a quick spreadsheet calculation, which shows that if the DJIA had an average of an 8% annual return on investment for the years of the Bush administration, it should be at 18,603 by the end of the year.

    Instead, we have the Republicans trying to tell us what great economomic managers they are, just because we have a stock market rally which finally breaks above the Feb. 2001 levels after SIX YEARS. Funny how the rally only occured once it was clear the Democrats were going to be in charge of the House again.

    Besides, I suspect that the stock market will reverse itself after the November elections when oil prices shoot up again. If the oil prices don’t rise dramatically, its only because they know we are watching pretty closely for it now, and the oil companies might be a tad concerned about a Democratic House of Representatives holding energy hearings where the executives are actually subpoened and placed under oath.

    Hey, if you Republicans are really interested in an investment which returns less than 8% over ten years, let me know. I’ve got some great ones for you. I’d like to get rich treating you the way you’ve been treating the rest of us for years!

  98. 149

    So, the Washington State Ferry system used $800,000 in federal tax money to install a wi-fi network, and then the private contractor which manages it wants to charge passengers $29.95 per month to use it?

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....rry25.html

    Man, I’ve got to start paying more attention to those Requests for Bids published in the Daily Journal of Commerce. It looks like a license to print money, when you take a public operation and turn it over to a private company to operate. I should get in on that act. Maybe I can get a contract to collect money for the IRS (no, wait, the Republicans have already contracted that out, too).

    Wait a minute. Isn’t that pretty much what Mike McGavick is proposing to do with Social Security, create a new government agency to decide which private investment firms get to manage the “private” portion of our accounts?

  101. 152

    rhp033

    You should also note that the NASDAQ index is half of what is was in 2000, despite six long years of Bush Boom.

  102. 153

    daddy–
    C’mon now…you know the dot.com bubble was a farce created to buoy Clinton’s #’s. Astronomical stock prices on companies with no earnings.
    Give me a break.

  104. 155

    102 Lefout

    And the housing bubble is..what?

    BTW, the so-called “dot.com bubble” was a stock market and venture capital phenomenon, and was not how the economy generated 22 million NET jobs under Clinton, including greatly reduced unemployment at the lowest end of our economic strata.

  105. 156

    In New Jersey, the Supreme Court just ruled that the NJ legislature must make “the rights and benefits of civil marriage…equally available to same-sex couples.” Call it marriage, call it a duck, but protect equal protection under the law.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Stop on by for some hot conversation and ice cold beer as we head into the stretch run of the election season.

We’ll be playing the Mike! McGavick drinking game during his televised debate tonight at 9PM, and I’m told that Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales might stop by, along with a number of almost-but-not-quite confirmed guests from both sides the aisle. Should be a lot of fun.

Not in Seattle? Washington liberals will also be drinking tonight in the Tri-Cities. Here’s a full run down of WA’s ten Drinking Liberally chapters:

Where: When: Next Meeting:
Burien: Mick Kelly’s Irish Pub, 435 SW 152nd St Fourth Wednesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward October 25
Kirkland: Valhalla Bar & Grill, 8544 122nd Ave NE Every Thursday, 7:00 pm onward October 19
Monroe: Eddie’s Trackside Bar and Grill, 214 N Lewis St Second Wednesday of each month, 7:00 PM onward November 8
Olympia: The Tumwater Valley Bar and Grill, 4611 Tumwater Valley Drive South First and third Monday of each month, 7:00-9:00 pm November 6
Seattle: Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Ave E Every Tuesday, 8:00 pm onward October 17
Spokane: Red Lion BBQ & Pub, 126 N Division St Every Wednesday, 7:00 pm October 18
Tacoma: Meconi’s Pub, 709 Pacific Ave on hiatus on hiatus
Tri-Cities: Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd, Richland Every Tuesday, 7:00 pm onward October 17
Vancouver: Hazel Dell Brew Pub, 8513 NE Highway 99 Second and fourth Tuesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward October 24
Walla Walla: The Green Lantern, 1606 E Isaacs Ave First Friday of each month, 8:00 pm onward November 3

Comments

  1. 159

    Breaking News: “Police arrested Green Party U.S. Senate candidate Aaron Dixon for trespassing after he attempted to push his way into the KING 5 studios in Seattle. More to come…”

    http://www.king5.com

  2. 160

    So how do you play the McGaick drinking game? Down a beer everytime he says “That’s Just Wrong!!!!”? Or how about every time he tells a lie? Or do you just try to match his BAC level during his DUI arrest, and still try to sit upright?

    On second thought, the results of any of the above would be just about the same…..

  3. 161

    Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL because Montlake is a long hop from Green Lake Park for an old arthritic bunny like me.

  4. 162

    The Seattle Times editorial page endorsed Rep. Cathy McMorris today. For sheer laughability, it would be hard to top the nonsense Frank Blethen wrote about RubberStampReichert, but he accomplished it with this line in today’s screed:

    “As McMorris gets more traction in Congress, we’d like to see her be a more autonomous Republican in the vein of Congressman Dave Reichert, R-Auburn.”

    http://tinyurl.com/yag7dh

    Of course, there’s a hidden agenda here. As British statements Benjamin Disraeli once said, “Everyone has two reasons for what he does — a good reason, and the real reason.” (or words to that effect) Despite his reasonable-sounding arguments on behalf of McMorris, Frank’s real reason for placing his rubberstamp of approval on McMorris is he wants the GOP to retain control of Congress in hopes they’ll repeal the estate tax. Frank is utterly, consumingly obsessed with the estate tax. Makes you wonder if his doctors told him something the rest of us don’t know, e.g. he’s knocking on the Pearly Gates.

  6. 164

    You humans just don’t appreciate how good you’ve got it. You have no idea what it’s like trying to type on a keyboard with furry paws. My claws keep hitting the wrong keys!

  7. 165

    #3 — that is what cabs are for. We don’t all have to be Laura Bush or Mike McGavick. Occasionally there are people with disposable income who have the personal responsibility to have a sober person drive them home.

    Maybe we can get the big screen at Cafe Racer, much closer to your Green Lake burrow, and have some beers and laughs together.

  9. 167

    But man! — you should see the letters column in today’s ST editorial section. It appears NO ONE wrote in supporting the paper’s endorsement of RubberStampReichert, because every single letter they published today on that subject takes their endorsement to task.

    For example:

    Robert Stagman, Mercer Island, wrote:

    “The Times’ endorsement of Dave Reichert for Congress in the 8th District … is a travesty reflecting your decision to ignore … his radical and intolerant positions…” (examples follow).

    Stephen Hendricks, Sammamish, wrote:

    “The Times has endorsed … Reichert … based largely, it appears, on his independence from the Bush administration. Unfortunately, while Reichert has demonstrated a willingness to vote against the Bush administration on a handful of issues where his vote was not decisive, the fact remains that a vote for him is a vote for Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, the rest of the Republican leadership in the House and the disastrous policies of the Bush administration. … As long as Reichert remains a Republican, and he has not demonstrated any ‘independence’ on that score, he no more deserves to be re-elected than the congressional leadership he supports.”

    Olav Martin Kvern, Seattle, wrote:

    “To say that I was surprised by The Times’ endorsement of Dave Reichert is an understatement. … Reichert has been a virtual rubber stamp for the Bush administration’s foreign-policy agenda. He has gone against the administration only on relatively safe (in political terms) domestic issues, but on every other matter he blindly followed his party. … He has voted with his party more than 90 percent of the time. That’s not what I’d call ‘a conscience-driven independent streak.’ If Reichert cannot stand up to his party on fundamental moral, ethical and political issues, what can he stand up for?”

    Joanne Gainen, Bellevue, wrote:

    “I am surprised that The Times endorses incumbent Dave Reichert over the challenger, Darcy Burner. … He claims not to be aligned with George Bush but brought him here to raise funds for his campaign. I have heard no evidence that he speaks out against unfair, abusive and foolhardy administration actions and policies.”

    Tom Boyle, Mount Vernon, wrote:

    “As a fiscally conservative moderate, who voted for Republican Dino Rossi …, I agreed with almost everything in The Times’ endorsement of Dave Reichert for the 8th District congressional seat. … However, it also shows why Western Washington voters need to vote for Darcy Burner: There is no way the voters in Eastern Washington will remove someone like Rep. Doc Hastings, R-Pasco. That means it is up to the voters in the west to do everything possible to ensure that the Republican Party is not the majority party in the House or the Senate. These Republicans have shown they are nothing but rubber stamps for the Karl Rove/Dick Cheney/George Bush agenda …. That is why, unfortunately, Western Washington voters … should vote for … Darcy Burner.”

    You’d think that if even ONE PERSON wrote in support of Frank’s endorsement of No-Estate-Tax Reichert, the Seattle Times would publish it. After all, newspapers like “balance” in their letters columns. But geez — even the Rossi voter doesn’t support Frank’s call on this one.

    It must be because most folks think there are more important issues in the world than getting rid of the estate tax.

    For complete editorial and/or letters, and/or copyright info, click on the links above and below.

    http://tinyurl.com/yj38ej

  10. 168

    7

    Despite the fact I rarely attend DL, there are occasions when I do attend … and your post seems to imply I’m not sober when I leave. The fact of the matter is that I do not drink alcohol at all. It’s not that I’m a prohibitionist (I’m not) or don’t like beer (I do); but I have a medical condition that makes drinking problematical for me. Alcohol makes me sick. So screw your pompous, platitudinous, soapbox preaching about “personal responsibility.”*

    * You must be a fucking Republican, because only fucking Republicans pontificate to others about “personal responsibility,” when they themselves accept none. If you want me to take a cab to DL, put up the money! It’s your idea, so I don’t see why I should do it on my dime.

  11. 169

    In today’s news, the Associated Press reports that Rep. Jim Kolbe of Arizona is under investigation for possible improprieties involving congressional pages. Kolbe is a Republican — did I need to tell you that? You could have guessed his party affiliation.

  12. 170

    10

    Wow, I checked my message four times and didn’t see where I didn’t accept any personal responsibility.

    The post also implied that if one were arthritic, one could leave the driving to someone else.

    If your impetuous, ultradefensive and hostile ripostes are indicative of the majority of Democrats, that may be why they don’t do so well at reaching out to people with shared values or progressive ideas.

  13. 171

    JCH, black Democrat, Big Island, Hawaii: “Where’s ma mofo FEMA trailer? Where’s ma guvment credit card? Where’s ma guvment check? Bush made da earthquake!! He owes me!! Eyes gotsa gets ma KFC, ma Black Velvet, and ma King Cobra!! Eyes gots da 42 inch plasma SONY HDTV by lootin da Best Buy in Hilo!! But what about ma “surround sound”!! I bet votin Democrat, so I bees gettin da mofo check NOW!! You white devils owes me!!!” …………………………………………………………………………….. [Sorry, but I’m a Republican. I take responsibility for myself and my property. Insurance, sweat equity, and I’ll clean up myself!!! Fuck you Democrat “Victims”!!!! JCH]

  14. 172

    GREAT FALLS, Mont. – Blackhawk helicopters and interceptor jets have begun patrolling Montana airspace along the U.S.-Canada border, and American officials say unmanned drones could be deployed as early as next year. But the U.S. is playing down the new security measure, claiming it has little to do with Canadians but more to do with the threat of terrorists using Canada as a staging point for attacks in America. [Wrong fucking border!!! Deport all illegals…….Voter ID………Build a fence………and Democrat votes are reduced by 20%!]

  15. 173

    “Blackhawk helicopters and interceptor jets have begun patrolling Montana airspace along the U.S.-Canada border, and American officials say unmanned drones could be deployed as early as next year. But the U.S. is playing down the new security measure, claiming it has little to do with Canadians but more to do with the threat of terrorists using Canada as a staging point for attacks in America. [Wrong fucking border!!!

    Commentby Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ— 10/17/06@ 4:21 pm”

    God Damn it, JCH! Can’t your fucking morons do ANYTHING right?

  16. 174

    JCH,

    Why don’t you tell us more about your vast “naval” knowledge? Or are you confused and mean to say “navel?”

    Yeah, you know plenty about belly button lint, don’t ya?

  17. 175

    When viewing Mike!’s television commercials, I’m really reminded of a petulant adolescent who is screaming for attention. His squeaky voice, whiny message, and dramatized mannerisms do not seem senatorial. He’s not ready for prime time.

  19. 177

    19

    GBS — please tell me again the story of how Joh Craid Herman of Hilo, Hawaii, LIED about his military service! I NEVER get tired of THAT story!!!

  20. 178

    20

    Actually, that’s my voice. I infiltrated the studio and sabotaged the voice-overs. I figured if he sounded like a rabbit, fewer people would vote for him.

  21. 179

    23

    I ask my friend Alvin the Chipmunk to do it, but Alvin informed me he doesn’t do Republican impersonations — the script makes him puke.

  22. 180

    JUDGE VACATES KEN LAY’S CONVICTION

    A federal judge has erased Ken Lay’s fraud conviction, citing a Fifth Circuit decision that said a defendant’s death pending appeal extinguishes the charges against him, according to the Associated Press.

    Ain’t it just like a cowardly Republican to kick the bucket in order to beat the rap!

  23. 181

    23
    Bully for you. Outstanding work. Now, if you can just get him to drop pellets wherever he might go in public, I think the boy’d fail to even get Craswell numbers.

  24. 182

    David, tonight is the second night in a row that you have chosen to pound beers at the Montlake Ale House. Do not come home and post anything at 1:03 AM, like you did last night. Wait until you have rested and recovered; wait for your better judgement and inhibitions to return.

  26. 184

    21

    I am a volunteer and contributor for the Maria Cantwell campaign. I will be volunteering also on Election Day, driving arthritic and otherwise infirm Democrats to the polls so they can vote, so my activities will count more toward the senator’s re-election than one grouchy, bitter, prejudiced person.

    I’ve already been commended by friends and Senator Cantwell in person for my personal commitment to helping Americans exercise their right to vote, but I’ll accept your apology.

  27. 185

    You Dems better pay a shit load more in taxes as I plan to file a big mother fucking FEMA claim because I’m a “victim” of Bush’s earthquake!!!!! hehe, JCH in Hawaii

  28. 186

    You Dems better pay a shit load more in taxes as I plan to file a big mother fucking FEMA claim because I’m a “victim” of Bush’s earthquake!!!!! hehe, JCH in Hawaii

  29. 187

    You Dems better pay a shit load more in taxes as I plan to file a big mother fucking FEMA claim because I’m a “victim” of Bush’s earthquake!!!!! hehe, JCH in Hawaii

  30. 188

    Why don’t you tell us more about your vast “naval” knowledge?

    Commentby GBS [E3 GBS, I don’t answer questions from loser busted E3s. Before you EVER address me, talk to your LPO or chief. Now GET THE FUCK OUT OF OFFICER’S QUARTERS!!!!!]

  31. 189

    From a previous thread:

    48

    Daddy Love – Your insistance of that all GOP are crawling with homos as shown by “Many of the top GOP lawmakers have highly placed, influential staffers who are openly gay or closeted gay” continues to show your lack of intelligence.

    Democrats are suppose to believe that Homo are OK so 1. Why are you even bringing this subject up and 2. There are folks that are homosexual everywhere regardless of their political leanings. So your comments only show your total lack of understanding.

    You are merely trying to ‘flame’ people but have proven that you only burnt yourself!

  33. 191

    10

    Roger – why do you ruin a perfectly good post by insisting on insulting everyone by use the word ‘f**king’? It only shows that you do not have the vocabulary to explain yourself without being ‘vulgar’

  34. 192

    E3 GBS,…………………………………………………………………Special Evaluation…………………………………… Not recommended for promotion to Petty Officer Third Class. Not recommended for retention. Recommended for 6 months of mess cook duties, and then for administrative discharge upon completion of additional commission officers wardroom support duties. Botton line: Total shitbird. Let him wash dished in the officer’s mess, and then sack this shitbird!!!!!

  35. 193

    Why are cities that are 100% Democrat unsafe and full of drugs, gangs, and crime?

  36. 194

    26

    He sure dropped a lot of ’em in tonight’s debate. Everything he said was a bunch of shit.

  38. 196

    Bush sounds like he’s either drunk or on crack every time he opens his lying mouth. He can’t even say “nuclear.”

  39. 197

    29

    My mistake. I retract what I said about you. But I don’t understand your comment about cabs. I don’t drink. What on earth made you think I go to DL and get drunk?

  40. 198

    30

    “You Dems better pay a shit load more in taxes as I plan to file a big mother fucking FEMA claim because I’m a “victim” of Bush’s earthquake!!!!! hehe, JCH in Hawaii” Commentby Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ— 10/17/06@ 7:32 pm

    Precisely what we expected from a Repukian F R E E L O A D E R lik you.

  45. 203

    38

    “Why are cities that are 100% Democrat unsafe and full of drugs, gangs, and crime?” Commentby Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ— 10/17/06@ 8:25 pm

    For the same reason that rural areas that are 100% Republican arfe unsafe and full of drugs, gangs, and crime — why do you think all those rural Republicans, without exception, have large dogs and guns?

  46. 204

    38 (continued)

    Crime is everywhere, Craig. You can’t even take a hike in the woods anymore without risking getting shot in the back of the head because you’ve stumbled onto somebody’s pot farm or meth lab. Has the crime problem gotten any better under GOP government? Hell no, it’s worse. What did Bush do about it? He ridiculed Clinton’s federal grant program that put 100,000 more cops on America’s streets — and gutted its funding. Do I feel safer with Republicans in charge? Fuck no!!! But I sure am glad to hear you need disaster relief from these GOP fuckups. It’s about time you got what you voted for.

  48. 206

    36 (continued)

    I’m not doing anything that JCH isn’t doing. For example, see #20 in the previous thread, to wit:

    “Liberal Dragon, No. Now get to work in the fields and pick the fucking apples!!!! NOW!!!!” Commentby Doctor JCH Kennedy, ESQ— 10/17/06@ 7:36 pm

    If using the word “fucking” in posts is good enough for a Republican like JCH, it’s good enough for me! I’ve never held myself out as being superior in any way to a Republican. After all, I used to be a Republican — a Goldwater Republican, to be precise. So why are you surprised that I talk like a Republican?

  50. 208

    No ID: No welfare, no food stamps, and no voting!!! Deal with it, Democrat commie libs!!!!

  51. 209

    “Maybe our side ought to steal elections.”

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— [NOV 2000…….Black districts in Philly voting Democrat at 115% of registration. New York Jews voting Democrat in NYC and in Palm Beach and Miami, FL. East St. Louis, MI………Democrat judges orders polls in ONLY black districts to stay open two extra hours while polls in the white areas were ordered to close on time. Milwaukee, WI……….Young black Democrats slashing tires on Republican vans on Election Eve. RR, Democrats are the Party of Voter Fraud. That is why you fight voter ID and/or the “purple” finger.

  52. 210

    Hollywood star Wesley Snipes was charged Tuesday with failing to pay taxes and conspiracy in an indictment that could put the versatile actor and producer behind bars for more than 40 years.
    Federal prosecutors in Tampa released an “an eight-count indictment charging Wesley Trent Snipes, formerly of Windermere, Florida; Eddie Ray Kahn, of Sorrento, Florida; and Douglas P. Rosile, of Venice, Florida, with conspiracy to defraud the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) and presenting a fraudulent claim for payment to the IRS.”

    “Each of the conspiracy and false claim charges carry a maximum sentence of five years imprisonment,” prosecutors added, noting: “Snipes is also charged with six counts of failing to file income tax returns.” […………………………………………………………………….Do black Democrats have to file tax returns and pay taxes like Republicans, or are they “victims” and “special”? Just “axing”………………]

  53. 211

    50

    How about no brains, no voting? That would disqualify every Republican in the country, starting with you, Craig.

  54. 212

    An ethnic jew finally makes his position clear.

    Tuesday, Oct. 17, 2006 3:45 p.m. EDT
    George Soros Takes Aim at Israel

    Billionaire investor George Soros is leading a move to stitch together an American Jewish political lobby that is “anti-Israel,” according to a column in the Jerusalem Post.

    Soros, who spent millions attempting to defeat President Bush in 2004, is one of a “tiny minority of American Jews” who have played a role in undermining support for Israel in the Democratic Party, and they now seek “to undermine Israel’s position in the U.S. in general,” Caroline Glick writes in the Post.

    Soros has invited another American Jewish billionaire, Peter Lewis, along with “North American Jewish plutocrats” like Charles and Edgar Bronfman, to join forces with him and leftist Jewish American organizations – including American Friends of Peace Now, the Israel Policy Forum and Brit Tzedek v’Shalom – to construct a political lobby that will weaken the influence of the pro-Israel lobby.

    “Many of the individuals and organizations associated with the initiative have actively worked to undermine Israel,” Glick writes.

    “Soros caused a storm in 2003 when, during a fund-raising conference for Israel, he alleged that Israel was partially responsible for the rise in anti-Semitic violence in Europe because of its harsh response to Palestinian terrorism.”

    Glick also points out that in November 2005, the leaders of the Israel Policy Forum met with Condoleezza Rice and urged her to dismiss Israel’s security concerns regarding two of the Gaza Strip’s border crossing points. As a result, Rice pressured Israel to make dangerous concessions to the Palestinians.

    And after Hamas’ electoral victory in January, American Friends of Peace Now, Israel Policy Forum and Brit Tzedek v’Shalom worked to shield the Hamas-led Palestinian Authority from Congressional sanctions.

    Together they worked to torpedo the Palestinian Anti-Terror Act, which enjoyed overwhelming support in the Congress and was designed to update American policy toward the Palestinian

    Authority in the wake of Hamas’ ascendance to power.
    Among its provisions, the bill called for an immediate end to U.S. assistance to nongovernmental and U.N. organizations operating in the PA that had connections to terrorist organizations.

    Due to the lobbying efforts of the “Jewish leftists,” the Palestinian Anti-Terror Act was eventually scuttled, Glick notes, adding:
    “Soros would like to institutionalize the ad-hoc coalition’s success in undermining the Palestinian Anti-Terror Act in a new lobby.

    “While its Jewish founders insist that they are pro-Israel, the fact of the matter is that they are about to establish an American Jewish anti-Israel lobby.”

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

Of course, the much awaited Burner/Reichert debate is also taking place this evening, so I’m guessing we’ll have some latecomers with first hand reports from the battlefield.

Not in Seattle? Washington liberals will also be drinking tonight in the Tri-Cities and Vancouver. Here’s a full run down of WA’s ten Drinking Liberally chapters:

Where: When: Next Meeting:
Burien: Mick Kelly’s Irish Pub, 435 SW 152nd St Fourth Wednesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward October 25
Kirkland: Valhalla Bar & Grill, 8544 122nd Ave NE Every Thursday, 7:00 pm onward October 12
Monroe: Eddie’s Trackside Bar and Grill, 214 N Lewis St Second Wednesday of each month, 7:00 PM onward October 11
Olympia: The Tumwater Valley Bar and Grill, 4611 Tumwater Valley Drive South First and third Monday of each month, 7:00-9:00 pm October 16
Seattle: Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Ave E Every Tuesday, 8:00 pm onward October 10
Spokane: Red Lion BBQ & Pub, 126 N Division St Every Wednesday, 7:00 pm October 11
Tacoma: Meconi’s Pub, 709 Pacific Ave Every Wednesday, 8:00 pm onward on hiatus
Tri-Cities: Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd, Richland Every Tuesday, 7:00 pm onward October 10
Vancouver: Hazel Dell Brew Pub, 8513 NE Highway 99 Second and fourth Tuesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward October 10
Walla Walla: The Green Lantern, 1606 E Isaacs Ave First Friday of each month, 8:00 pm onward November 3

Comments

  2. 214

    One of these days, there is going to be a “drinking liberally” session I can make. But for tonight, I have another business dinner. Maybe some other time.

  3. 215

    PHOENIX-The state will ask a justice of the nation’s high court to let county election officials require voters to produce identification for next month’s general election. Attorney General Terry Goddard said Tuesday legal papers will be given to Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, possibly by the end of the week, asking him to void an order by the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals barring the state from enforcing the voter ID provisions of Proposition 200 while a legal challenge to them works its way through federal court. [………Voter ID: Democrats lose. It’s that simple. Plus……….Border Patrol and Homeland Security at every poll.]

  4. 216

    “Thanks for pointing that out. Let’s keep all them “foriegners” and dark skinned people from voting.”
    Commentby Doctor Maf54 Kennedy, ESQ.— […………………………….Spell much, Maf54? Another public school “minority pass” student?]

  5. 217

    David, you chose to pound a few rather than support your candidate at the Burner & Reichert debate in Bellevue. Why am I not surprised? Your choice is very indicative of your character and values.

    Blogging, like talk, is cheap.

    Next time get your lazy, alcoholic self to the event.

    True enthusiasts witness events; they do not read reports on them. David, are you a true enthusiast? True Mudhoney fans attend their shows; they don’t wait for a report from a critic.

    And for God’s sakes, do not give your readers a second-hand report, when you had an opportunity to attend the debate and report on it yourself.

  6. 218

    Geneva – Hollywood star Angelina Jolie on Tuesday accused the West of cold-heartedness and hypocrisy in trying to shut out migrants, including refugees, from Africa and other hotspots. More than 7,000 people have died trying to get into Europe over the past decade, according to Jolie, whose comments appeared in the magazine ”Refugees,” published by the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), for whom she is a goodwill ambassador. [……….Could they all come and live with Angelina and Brad?…………..hehe, JCH]

  7. 219

    We’ll fill Rhode Island with the first billion refugees, then start filling Connecticut with the next billiion.

    And AJ can adopt a few thousand more third-world babies, one for each country in Africa, S. America and Asia. Hey collect the whole set!

  8. 220

    The Burner/Reichert debate was very interesting. Hundreds of people were turned away. Reichert, in fact, did better than I expected. He received snickers only on his response that we were in Iraq “because we’d been attacked”.

    When asked whether he supported a pharmacist’s “right” to refuse dispensing BIRTH CONTROL, emphasis mine, to distinguish it, as if necessary, from the morning after pill, his entire answer was,”yes”.

    He was asked about the proposed legislation to increase local ownership of media, i.e. reduce media consolidation and concentration, he actually said he was not informed on the issue and would “have to take a pass on the question”.

    Had there been anyone in the audience who had not known of his 33 years of service to the community, there is no doubt that after the first, or second, or third, fourth, etc. response, they would have clearly known……

    Darcy did a good job of pointing out the close ties between Reichert and Bush. It was rather funny that after stressing his independent thinking, when Darcy pointed out his 90% agreement with Bush he could only rebut by saying it wasn’t 90% it was 86% and some of those votes had also been taken by Democrats, so they must have been Bush democrats.

    The funniest part of the debate probably occurred when the moderator asked Reichert about campaign finance reform and Reichert answered with a mealy mouthed non response about lobbying reform. Darcy heard the question that was asked, and responded adequately.

    I thought her analysis of his chairmanship of the homeland protection/first responder communication stuff was pretty telling.

    At the close of the moderated section, each was offered the opportunity to ask the other a question. Reichert questioned her brief resume and commitment to community and pointed out his…….33 years of commitment to the community. Darcy posed a rather convoluted question pointing out his shifting stances on ANWAR, stem cells, global warming and asking how could we trust his integrity if there was none. She should have been better prepared for that.

    Each had a three minute closing statement. Darcy hit all the usual highlights, and when supporters applauded, the moderator said he would give Reichert extra time, even though Darcy had not exceeded her time limit.

    The moderator was rather poor. He called Darcy Ms. Brunner, until he was corrected by the audience. At one point he asked “Bill” to answer the question, and Reichert rescued him on that. When he gave Reichert extra time because Burner supporters clapped, even though Darcy had not exceeded her time, partisan observers were a little peeved(including moi). He rambled a little at one point, apparently to give Reichert an ooportunity to pull his thoughts together.

    The audience then submitted questions. There were interesting questions that almost got asked. There were interesting answers that almost got said.

    The most surprising factoid of the evening for me was when asked about the second amendment, Darcy said not only did she own a gun and know how to use it, but she had a concealed carry permit.
    She expressed her support for the use of guns for self protection, but drew the line at assault type weapons. Reichert talked about his 33 years of blah blah blah and his support of the use of weapons to defend others.

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Drinking Liberally

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The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. The primaries are over and we’re headed into the home stretch, so come on down for some hot debate and some icy cold beer.

Not in Seattle? Washington liberals will also be drinking tonight in the Tri-Cities. Here’s a full run down of WA’s ten Drinking Liberally chapters:

Where: When: Next Meeting:
Burien: Mick Kelly’s Irish Pub, 435 SW 152nd St Fourth Wednesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward September 27
Kirkland: Valhalla Bar & Grill, 8544 122nd Ave NE Every Thursday, 7:00 pm onward September 28
Monroe: Eddie’s Trackside Bar and Grill, 214 N Lewis St Second Wednesday of each month, 7:00 PM onward October 11
Olympia: The Tumwater Valley Bar and Grill, 4611 Tumwater Valley Drive South First and third Monday of each month, 7:00-9:00 pm October 2
Seattle: Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Ave E Every Tuesday, 8:00 pm onward September 26
Spokane: Red Lion BBQ & Pub, 126 N Division St Every Wednesday, 7:00 pm September 27
Tacoma: Meconi’s Pub, 709 Pacific Ave Every Wednesday, 8:00 pm onward September 27
Tri-Cities: Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd, Richland Every Tuesday, 7:00 pm onward September 26
Vancouver: Hazel Dell Brew Pub, 8513 NE Highway 99 Second and fourth Tuesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward September 26
Walla Walla: The Green Lantern, 1606 E Isaacs Ave First Friday of each month, 8:00 pm onward October 6

Comments

  1. 225

    Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL due to traffic problems in the congested Montlake neighborhood caused by the Department of Homeland Security vehicles that follow me everywhere.

  5. 229

    “Online, people can be anyone or anyway they want. It can be an extension of their true personality” [Teresa “Paris Hilton” Grossman]

  6. 230

    OK……….HA.ORG’s Question Of The Day: How many posters on HA.ORG need to have their wives post to “protect” them from evil “baddies”?

  7. 231

    I think it is necessary to declare a “jihad” on dumb ass parasite liberal “progressive” Democrats!!!!!!

  8. 232

    I won’t be at DL because I’m getting a golden shower from Ann Coulter. Homeland Security has nothing to do with my absence.

    Later I’m having “hot lunch” at Michelle Malkin’s place.

  9. 233

    Sen. Hillary Clinton defended her husband’s angry performance on Fox News Channel this weekend, saying he did a ‘great job’ on national security. Teresa defended Carl, saying he does a “great” job. Anyone else see a “trend” here????????????? hehe, JCH

  10. 234

    Not enough Drinking Liberally joints on the Eastside (zero). But my brother just moved to Montlake and now lives a few blocks from the Ale House. I urged him to attend. Although my name is Love, his is not.

  11. 235

    JCH, Puddy and MTR finally found a racist candidate they can get behind! But the big question is, can George Allen satisfy the HA Trolls’ anti-semitic needs, now that Allen just found out he’s Jewish himself????

    2 Ex-Acquaintances of Senator Allen Say He Used Slurs
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09.....r=homepage

    Heh heh…the wheels are coming off another GOP “safe seat”!

  12. 236

    Second accuser is a white middle-aged ex-jock hunter and cardiologist. It MUST be a liberal plot!

    Separately, Dr. Ken Shelton, who was a football teammate of the senator at the University of Virginia and who is also white, said that while in college in the early 1970’s Mr. Allen often used the same racially charged term. Mr. Shelton, whose account was first reported Sunday night in the online newsmagazine Salon, said Mr. Allen had told him that he had moved to Virginia “because the blacks know their place.”

    Mr. Shelton, a radiologist now living in North Carolina, said that on a hunting trip Mr. Allen had sought out the home of an African-American and affixed the head of a dead deer to the mailbox. He also said Mr. Allen had called him Wizard, for Robert Shelton, who used the title as a leader of the Ku Klux Klan.

    “He wanted to know if I was related,” Mr. Shelton recalled in an interview. “I said no.”

  13. 237

    He also said Mr. Allen had called him Wizard, for Robert Shelton, who used the title as a leader of the Ku Klux Klan.

    Commentby LiberalRedneck— 9/26/06@ 4:43 pm

    No kidding? I thought thought he was talking about Gandalf from “The Lord of the Rings.”

  14. 238

    It will be interesting to see any political trail behind these accusers who choose NOW to come forward.
    Check their political contributions.

  15. 239

    Daddylove @ 10:

    Not enough Drinking Liberally joints on the Eastside (zero)

    Ummmm, where is Kirkland exactly?

    Not a hater, just saying.

    I will be missing DL due to the usual lame excuse of being on the wrong side of the border. If a Bellingham chapter opens up, I could be talked into sneaking across for some proper beer.

    Anyone coming up to East Vancouver on Wednesday nights is free to join us for drinks at Havana’s on 1212 Commercial Drive. Email wumingzi at gmail dot com for details.

  16. 240

    Outofyourmind: the only political trail I see for Dr. Ken Shelton is a recent endorsement of a Republican candidate for Hendersonville County Sheriff.

    But this just keeps getting worse for Allen.

    Larry Sabato, a highly respected classmate of the Senator’s, confirms what others have said.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....GG00.shtml

    And all three of Allen’s defenders are directly tied to his administration or campaign http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/25/145225/712

    Ouch.

    How long will it take for racists JCH, Puddy and Mark The Redneck to endorse Allen’s racist comments? Are these resident anti-semites holding their endorsement until they find out whether Allen is really a Jew, or not?

  17. 241

    LiberalRedneck, I must have missed your post on Robert “KKK” Byrd, DEMOCRAT, WV. Please repost………….hehe, JCH

  18. 242

    I think the Allen Campaign should play Robert Byrd’s White –ggers comments from Fox News over and over and remind Virginia what party charishes racists.

    This ad should begin immediately.

  19. 243

    Oops, bad analogy – as usual – JCH.

    Robert Byrd has renounced his racism from 60 years ago.

    Sen. Allen STILL uses racist epithets (like you!), even though the cameras are rolling. Do you know how many rich, successful east Indians there are in the high tech corridors of VA?

    But now that your Cynthia McKinney obsession has passed, don’t let me get in the way of OCDing over Robert Byrd. He’s going to be around for a while!

    Carry on, psycho.

  20. 244

    Oops, bad analogy – as usual – JCH.

    Commentby LiberalRedneck [………………………………..I think it works quite well, but maybe I should have used Hillary’s “Fucking Jew Bastard” to Dick Morris? Which one do you prefer???]

  21. 245

    I forgot to mention – ‘the party that cherishes racism’ flipped after passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. I know your obsessive-compulsive disorder has put you in a permanent state of time warp, JCH, but come on – that was 40 years ago!

    Plus, since you’re an avowed racist and anti-semite yourself, I still don’t get why you would criticize Robert Byrd’s political leanings from pre-1945?

    Not like anything you say makes any sense…

  22. 246

    Oh boy – back with that discredited urban legend again. And you STILL haven’t figured out that the supposed Hillary quote was not related to Dick Morris at all. The guy who made the claim was a disbarred lawyer who suffered from memory loss. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.....troversies
    I know you know you’re making this up, JCH. Because we’ve gone over this before.

    That’s what I get trying to converse with an anti-semitic serial troll who tries to call others anti-semites…

    The JCH mental circus rolls on.

  23. 247

    This Friday, soon to be known as “Fatwa Friday”, I will declare a “jihad” on stupid, dumb ass liberal Democrat posters on HA.ORG!!

  25. 249

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    Libertarian — if you’re going to post under my screen name because you’re too chickenshit to use your own name (and I would be too, if I were you), you better be wearing bunny ears!!!

  26. 250

    “Fatwa Friday”……………..Carl, do you think Mrs. Grossman would mind if we BAR-B-Qed a couple of her llamas to feed the Democrat “jihad”? I think two would be enough. Lots of hungry HA.ORG posters are looking forward to the big day!!!!!!!

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Drinking Liberally

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The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Our intrepid leader Nick sent out an email implying that we’ll have a breathalyzer at tonight’s event, so perhaps we’ll finally have our first annual Mike McGavick Drink Off to see exactly what it takes to get to a 0.17 blood-alcohol level. Once again I’m offering a free copy of Sen. Byron Dorgan’s new book, Take This Job and Ship It to the first person to show up with a functioning breathalyzer, and a free ride home to our victim.

And FYI, we may not be recording a Podcasting Liberally this week as our producers Richard and Gavin are both out of town, and Richard’s ETA is rather tentative. So if you’ve got some good recording gear and would like the honor of being Producer for A Day, come on down.

Not in Seattle? Washington liberals will also be drinking tonight in the Tri-Cities and Vancouver, and here’s a full run down of WA’s ten Drinking Liberally chapters:

Where: When: Next Meeting:
Burien: Mick Kelly’s Irish Pub, 435 SW 152nd St Fourth Wednesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward September 27
Kirkland: Valhalla Bar & Grill, 8544 122nd Ave NE Every Thursday, 7:00 pm onward September 14
Monroe: Eddie’s Trackside Bar and Grill, 214 N Lewis St Second Wednesday of each month, 7:00 PM onward September 13
Olympia: The Tumwater Valley Bar and Grill, 4611 Tumwater Valley Drive South First and third Monday of each month, 7:00-9:00 pm September 18
Seattle: Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Ave E Every Tuesday, 8:00 pm onward September 12
Spokane: Red Lion BBQ & Pub, 126 N Division St Every Wednesday, 7:00 pm September 13
Tacoma: Meconi’s Pub, 709 Pacific Ave Every Wednesday, 8:00 pm onward September 13
Tri-Cities: Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd, Richland Every Tuesday, 7:00 pm onward September 12
Vancouver: Hazel Dell Brew Pub, 8513 NE Highway 99 Second and fourth Tuesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward September 12
Walla Walla: The Green Lantern, 1606 E Isaacs Ave First Friday of each month, 8:00 pm onward October 6

Comments

  1. 263

    Fact: As long as Muuuuslims don’t vote Republican, most Democrats could give a shit about terrorism. BUSH is their enemy, not Democrat voting Muuuuuuslims.

  2. 264

    “We must not listen in on the terrorist’s cell phone calls, or track their wire money transfers, because the Muuuuuuuuslims have rights, and we need their Democrat votes”! [Carl Grossman]

  4. 266

    “Al-Qaida lieutenant warns of new attacks” …………Doctor JCH Kennedy warns of Trident Sub unloading all missile [D-4] tubes on Muuuuuslim targets, military and civilian! You want to stop Muslims terrorism? Scare the shit out of them!! If they continue to fuck with Americans, repeat with another fully loaded Ohio class Trident. This will work EVERY time! Enjoy, mother fucking ragheads!!!!

  5. 267

    New opening phrase!

    “Would someone on the right please tell JCH just how much he’s embarrasing your side?” – John Barelli.

    Posted earlier, but worth repeaing. Latest Rasmussen poll:

    Maria Cantwell – 52%
    Mike McGavick – 35%

    “The current survey is the first conducted since McGavick’s admission of a drunk driving incident earlier in his life.

    These results mark the first time since February that Cantwell has reached the 50% level of voter support. Rasmussen Reports is now shifting this race from “Leans Democrat” to “Democrat” in our Senate Balance of Power ratings.”

    http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....Senate.htm

  6. 268

    Let’s see…killing lots of Muslims hasn’t worked, what should we do? I know—KILL MORE MUSLIMS! That’s SURELY will work!

  8. 270

    A re-post from an earlier topic, but since that one had pretty much run its course, I thought I should post it again.

    I’m not that concerned about whether McGavick won a track race, or won a state championship. Its a bit like a fish story to me, where the importance of the race was magnified with re-telling.

    But I missed another point in previous readings, which finally hit me this morning: there is no way Mike could have trained for track the summer after his senior year in high school and received a track scholarship.

    First of all, I my daughter earned a rowing scholarship. Like track, they do the longer distances in the fall (called cross-country in track), and shorter distances in the spring. She was recruited by colleges during the summer BEFORE her senior year, making official visits to colleges in the fall and early winter of her senior year, and signing an NCAA letter of commitment in the early spring. By spring of her senior year, all the available scholarships are gone. There are none available to someone who shows up at college that fall and asks to be considered for a scholarship.

    If a person wants to earn a scholarship, then they have to “walk on” to the team, train and compete for a year, and hope to be offered a scholarship for next year. But this is very hard to do, because coaches want to use scholarships to entice a potential star to come to the school, not to pay for someone who is already at the school. Unless the athlete is a real superstar and is consideraing a transfer, the coach will hold out the prospect of a scholarship for future years, but gamble that the athlete will not want to change schools after already completing a year or two at their program. (Note: UW women’s rowing program operates differently in this respect).

    So Mike’s chances of earning a track scholarship by training in the summer after his senior year are virtually nil. Perhaps I’ve got the details wrong, and he’s talking about the summer before his junior year? But then the reference to the state track championship earned in his senior year would be out of place. Or perhaps Mike never looked into what it would take to get a scholarship, and just assumed he could have gotten one if he had trained for it?

    Did he try out for the track team in college? If so, why didn’t he get a scholarship then? I would think he could have spent the fall and winter “training” while he was in college, and then “walk on” to the team in the spring?

    Finally, why would Mike! have to quit work to train for a track scholarship? My daughter continued to work part-time in high school while rowing, and worked full-time during the summers. At one point she was in school, in the band, working part-time, and rowing – all at the same time. I never tried out for a college scholarship in swimming, but while I was in high school I still did two-a-day practices during the summer while working full time, and practicing three days a week in the winter while working part-time and going to school.

    Now track isn’t one of those sports like football or basketball, where you need everyone together at the same time. You can train just about anytime you can fit it into your schedule, especially during the long summer days around here. Heck, my daughter still goes for an hour-long run every night when she gets home from work in the summer.

    So Mike! is trying to make it sound like he sacrificed so much because he had to work. What it shows me is that Mike really expected to party his senior year, under the pretext of “training for track”, but his dad saw through that, and was determined he wasn’t going to waste his summer partying.

    In that respect, Mike! probably isn’t much different from a lot of graduating seniors. But now he wants to get “character” credit for spending a summer pumping gas. Well, “Mike!”, welcome to the real world. Most of us worked summers, and many of us worked part-time during the school year, even if some of the classmates where you went to school didn’t.

    I think “Mike!’s story of winning a track race got exaggerated in re-telling, from winning a race in a non-sanctioned meet to “winning the state championship”. He probably told the story a hundred times, and somebody asked him why he didn’t run track in college. Well, if he was so good, he had to come up with some excuse, so he complained that he couldn’t “train” because he had to work that summer pumping gas. But he’s told the expanded story so many times, he’s forgotten that most of it isn’t true, and so many have accepted what he says at face value, he’s forgotten that in a Senate campaign, everything he says will be checked for accuracy. So now he’s “offended” about how “uncivil” the campaigns have become.

    Again, if this was a story he wanted to tell his friends and family, its no big deal. Its not a campaign issue. It’s just another “fish” story. But he made it the issue by giving it as an example of his “character”. So now we are beginning to see his true character.

  9. 271

    Mike!s “character” campaign has clearly not worked out for him, so now it’s going the be dirty tricks and smears from here on out.

  10. 272

    Mike!s “character” campaign has clearly not worked out for him, so now it’s going the be dirty tricks and smears from here on out. -Commentby Daddy Love— 9/12/06@ 1:10 pm

    As learned from clinton, clinton, carville, gore, mccauliffe, kerry, dean, gregoire, la goldie, brazile, ross…

  11. 273

    Mike!s “character” campaign has clearly not worked out for him, so now it’s going the be dirty tricks and smears from here on out. -Commentby Daddy Love— 9/12/06@ 1:10 pm

    It would be a real shame if the people with anti-Mike t-shirts hid them under nice conservative clothes and then unveiled during taping, because that would be wrong.

    It would be a shame if someone videotaped the GOP trying to weed out the non-McGavick supporters with the candidate’s signs in the background, because that would only be useful in a negative campaign. -Commentby wayne— 9/12/06@ 1:03 pm

    You were saying, Mr Pot?

    I’ll be there with my MADD t-shirt, my air horn, my Impeach Bush button and a bad attitude. -Commentby RightEqualsStupid— 9/12/06@ 1:25 pm

    I have TWO airhorns, and a Bush Lied T-shirt. In the spririt of bipartisanship, I will wear the red shirt with white lettering. Do you think a cowbell would be rude too? Commentby My Left Foot— 9/12/06@ 1:32 pm

  12. 274

    You know, I actually hope you all do the things your bragging about doing.

    Please, I really do.

    Because I also hope that the McGavick campaign then makes another of comerical of those outtakes and uses it to bludgeon cantthinkandwalk for her association with those so opposed to free speech.

  13. 275

    “We must not listen in on the terrorist’s cell phone calls, or track their wire money transfers, because the Muuuuuuuuslims have rights, and we need their Democrat votes”! [Carl Grossman]

  15. 277

    ASS

    That’s not a dirty trick, that’s an annoyance. These (thus far purely hypothetical, we should add) people are openly partisan and are just saying as much publicly.

    On your side there were the Republican plants who said they were Democrats who followed Ned Lamont around Connecticut and loudly mouthed GOP talking points at his public meet’n’greets.

    Do you perceive the difference? It’s Democratic loudmouthed openness v. GOP deceit.

  17. 279

    ASS @ 12

    The people who are speaking freely are opposed to free speech? That’s a new one.

  18. 280

    ASS would probably hold up Jeff “studmuffin” Guckert as a shining example of how to behave in the presence of Republican greatness.

  19. 281

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    Officials have said Cunningham was in the country illegally but escaped the notice of immigration authorities after three burglary arrests in 2004 because his cases were handled in the juvenile justice system. [………….Another “Democrat-to-be” illegal alien just doing the felonies that Democrat welfare hacks are too lazy to do!!! Regardless, he must “vote early, vote often” and vote Democratic”!!! Right, Carl??]

  20. 282

    I’d like to know…

    How many of you moonbats will be riding an otherwise empty fucking metro bus to DL.

    C’mon.. yer gawd algore would expect no less of you. Or is all that shit for somebody else? Thought so…

    Also, give me a report on how it was sitting near the big fat single mother and her screaming kids and the punk with green hair and a face full of metal.

  21. 283

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  22. 284

    ASS would probably hold up Jeff “studmuffin” Guckert as a shining example of how to behave in the presence of Republican greatness. -Commentby ArtFart— 9/12/06@ 3:53 pm,/i>

    Sorry sweetcheeks… not a clue who he is… is HE related to that Jenny attorney who is lady in waiting for for queen chrissy?

  23. 285

    HCYBPtbaA @ 14:

    1) The enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend.

    2) The NAM can define terrorism any way they want. What they are really saying is that the projection of state power is terrorism — except when a member of the NAM does so, in which case it is a “legitimate pursuit of the national interest”.

    3) The only reason why this story is interesting at all and why anyone should give a rats’ ass about what the NAM says about anything is that their charter members include India and China who are supposed to take over as the Heads of The Free(ish) World one of these days, or so one would believe if one read the newspaper quickly and uncritically.

    If you think the US can defy gravity (metaphorically) and ignore history by remaining the sole superpower indefinitely, the NAM is nothing more the outburst of a bunch of juveniles who are mad that nobody takes them seriously.

    Juveniles have this funny way of growing up sooner or later. You and I will probably be alive when this happens. Stay tuned.

  24. 286

    ASS @ 22

    Jeff Gannon was the pseudonym used by male prostitute James Guckert as he spent two years as a White House shill posing as a reporter in the WH press room, who for that two years was the recipient of WH press day passes (thus conveniently avoiding those annoying and embarrassing background checks), and who lobbed fawning GOP talking points disguised as “press” question to the president. He also spent many of his days as a WH visitor doing God knows what kinds of fun things (what DOES a male prostitute do as a guest of Ken Melman, anyway?).

  26. 288

    Daddy Love @ 26:

    I can see a younger Karl Rove as a cute, tight-assed bottom at Neighbors or the Manray.

    Seriously, gay? I dunno. Given how he likes to spread innuendo about the sexuality of his opponents, I would say he at least has a very active imagination. Whether he confines that to his wife of 20 years, or spreads the love around (so to speak) is something one can only speculate on.

  29. 291

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Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

Once again I’m offering a free copy of Sen. Byron Dorgan’s new book, Take This Job and Ship It to the first person to show up with a functioning breathalyzer.

Washington liberals will also be drinking tonight in the Tri-Cities. Here’s a full run down of WA’s ten Drinking Liberally chapters:

Where: When: Next Meeting:
Burien: Mick Kelly’s Irish Pub, 435 SW 152nd St Fourth Wednesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward September 27
Kirkland: Valhalla Bar & Grill, 8544 122nd Ave NE Every Thursday, 7:00 pm onward September 7
Monroe: Eddie’s Trackside Bar and Grill, 214 N Lewis St Second Wednesday of each month, 7:00 PM onward September 13
Olympia: The Tumwater Valley Bar and Grill, 4611 Tumwater Valley Drive South First and third Monday of each month, 7:00-9:00 pm September 18
Seattle: Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Ave E Every Tuesday, 8:00 pm onward September 5
Spokane: Red Lion BBQ & Pub, 126 N Division St Every Wednesday, 7:00 pm September 6
Tacoma: Meconi’s Pub, 709 Pacific Ave Every Wednesday, 8:00 pm onward September 6
Tri-Cities: Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd, Richland Every Tuesday, 7:00 pm onward September 5
Vancouver: Hazel Dell Brew Pub, 8513 NE Highway 99 Second and fourth Tuesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward September 12
Walla Walla: The Green Lantern, 1606 E Isaacs Ave First Friday of each month, 8:00 pm onward October 6

Comments

  1. 292

    Hopefully, all 10 locations are within walking distance of the folks drinking. Even one drink can adversely affect judgement and reaction times.

  2. 293

    Over a week since I first pointed this out to him, and McGavick still hasn’t publically called upon the Speaker of the House or the Senate Majority Leader to pass Cantwell’s bill to make permanant the Sales Tax Deduction from federal income taxes.

    What’s the matter, Mike!?????? Don’t you care about Washington families, or was your “outrage” over Cantwell’s vote against the Republican trifecta bill just another misleading campaign tactic?

  3. 294

    Crashing through boundaries of space and time, here is how I foresee the conversation between McGavick and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (if McGavick bothers or dares to make the call):

    Frist: “Hello?”

    Mike: “Uh, Sen. Frist, Sir, this is Mike McGavick.”

    Frist: “Mike? Mike who?”

    Mike: “Mike McGavick. You know. Mike! The Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate from Washington Sate.”

    Frist: “We have a Senate candidate in Washington State?”

    Mike: “Uh, Yes Sir, we do. It’s me.”

    Frist: “Isn’t that Cantwell’s seat?”

    Mike: “Correct, Sir.”

    Frist: “Oh, sorry, buddy. I didn’t realize we had found a sacrificial lamb, err, stooge, err, candidate to run for that seat.”

    Mike: “Well, yes Sir, we did, and its me.

    Frist: “Oh, I remember now. You’re the guy that got all the Safeco money. It took Rove and a team of lawyers a month to figure out how to turn that campaign contribution into a ‘bonus’. “

    Mike: “Yes, Sir, that’s me. And I intend to earn the money when I get to the Senate, Sir.”

    Frist: “Well, Mike, that’s what was intended. Make sure Safeco gets it’s money worth. Got to keep the big contributers happy, don’t we? Now, what can I do for you? Make it quick. We’re going out to dinner, and I intend to stiff the waitress on the tip….”

    Mike: “Well, Sen. Frist, that’s kind of what I was going to call you about. “

    Frist: “Oh?”

    Mike: “Well, you see, I was making the whole minimum wage/sales tax deduction/estate tax repeal a campaign issue against Cantwell. You know, telling voters that she voted against the sales tax deduction bill, and it will cost them money.”

    Frist: “Well, that’s why we did it! It’s a win-win proposition for us. We knew that there was no way in hell the minimum wage bill would pass with the estate tax repeal added to it, so it gave us a free pass to toss in a few more “hand grenades” while we are at it. This one was aimed right at Cantwell. We already had the ads scripted before the bill even made it out of the house”.

    Mike: “Yes Sir, and I appreciate it. But see, now I’m in a bit of a bind.

    Frist: “How can you be in a bind? We gave it to you on a silver platter! What could be easier?!”

    Mike: “Well, see, when I was working for Slade Gorton, I was his campaign manager, and I made this misleading negative ad about his opponent….”

    Frist: “So? That’s what you were expected to do!”

    Mike: “Well, I kind of apologized for it….”

    Frist: “YOU WHAT???!!!!! WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU DO A STUPID THING LIKE THAT????!!!!!”

    Mike: “Well, they told me that I needed to be “more human”, and that if I apologized for some minor things, it would make it more difficult for my opponent to criticize me for it….”

    Frist: “Well, I hope you didn’t do something stupid and apologize for anything else, like getting arrested for drunk driving in another state where nobody knows about it…”

    Mike: “Well, Sir, I know you are busy, so instead of getting off on that tangent, I’d better get right to the point.

    Frist: “Please do (getting impatient).”

    Mike: “Well, it seems that since I apologized for one misleading ad, I’m getting a lot of heat from the papers about running the current misleading ad. What with Cantwell being the main sponsor of the legislation to continue the State Sales Tax Deduction and all, it IS kind of misleading to argue that she voted against it in the bill we loaded up with poison pills….”

    Frist: “Well, screw the papers! Most of our voters don’t read anyway. Just keep hammering away with those ads!”

    Mike: “Well, its been pointed out pretty clearly that if I really wanted the state sales tax deduction, all I had to do was ask you to have the Republicans in the House vote for Cantwell’s bill, which has already passed in the Senate.”

    Frist: “So? I’m not sure I like the way this conversation is heading….”

    Mike: “So, if I ask you to have the House Republicans approve the Senate bill, and they do it, then I can take credit for saving the Sales Tax Deduction!”

    Frist: “You IDIOT! We don’t give a rat’s ass about the sales tax deduction! It doesn’t really affect our base anyway, it’s pocket change to them. The income tax is the only thing that concerns them! If we extend the sales tax deduction, then it might make it harder to get more income tax cuts for our rich contributors! Hell, even my own state is going to be hurt by the expiration of the state sales tax deduction, but you don’t see me trying to save it, do you????”

    Mike: “But, I don’t think I can win if we don’t do it….”

    Frist: “Look, Mike, I thought you were smarter than that. There is no way in hell you are going to win anyway. I’m surprised you even took the job. But just keep hammering away with those ads. Like I said, most of our supporters can’t read newspapers anyway, so it is bound to have some effect. Even though it won’t get you elected, it might bring in more contributors from Washington state we can add to our database for national fund-raising.

    Just like that election challenge to your governor’s race. We knew it was all bogus, but we got our folks so riled up by blaming the Democrats for vote-stealing, the money is just pouring in! It was well worth the money we spent on it. Hell, now when somebody catches us stealing elections anywhere in the country, we just start blathering about King County, and even the newspapers get tired of it and move on.

    Well, Mike, I’ve gotta go! Good Luck!”

    “Click”.

    Northwest Forum for Politics and Policy

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    “According to a survey almost 65% of Americans believe the war in Iraq has created more terrorists. If we consider Bush’s ratings plummeted, and anybody that disagrees with his administration is called a terrorist, it makes a lot of sense.”

    Pedro Bartes’ Jokes, online at BobRivers.com

  5. 296

    Why not just have a single, flat rate income tax with no deductions? Why do we have to have this complicated mess?

  6. 297

    Over a week since I first pointed this out to him, and McGavick still hasn’t publically called upon the Speaker of the House or the Senate Majority Leader to pass Cantwell’s bill to make permanant the Sales Tax Deduction from federal income taxes.

    What’s the matter, Mike!?????? Don’t you care about Washington families, or was your “outrage” over Cantwell’s vote against the Republican trifecta bill just another misleading campaign tactic?

  7. 298

    Hopefully Goldy or someone else in attendance gets a DUI on the way home. That’d be divine justice huh? Oh, I forgot; but when it happens to a whiney tree-hugging Dem. it’s profiling right?

  9. 300

    100,000 Ex-Felons Gain Right To Vote In Tennessee – In Time For November Elections

    On September 5, 2006 at the Clarksville – Montgomery County Board of
    Education, Building 621 Gracey Ave., Clarksville, TN, starting at 6:30 p.m.
    a special panel of guests that will include:

    Representatives from the Election Commission, TN Bar Association, The
    Brennan Center for Justice, as well as a Former Convicted Felon who will
    vote for the first time in his life, will participate in a “Get Your Right
    to Vote Back” Town Hall Meeting.

    What was once the country’s most confusing voter restoration system, with
    six different procedures and sub-categories for restoration, has now been
    streamlined into a single restoration process which will give back the
    state’s 100,000 former felons their right to vote, has many of them flocking
    to town hall meetings hosted by the ACLU & NAACP across the state.

    The meeting is expected to be attended by Former Felons, Family Members of
    Former Felons, Attorneys, Law Enforcement, City & County Officials, Judges,
    Politicians, Church Clergy, Etc. and a tentatively scheduled special
    appearance by TN Governor Phil Bredesen, who signed the bill into law in
    June 2006.

    The League of Women Voters will be on hand to conduct voter registration for
    Former Felons and any other potential voters in the Community.

    We urge you, the Media, to come out to cover and learn more about this
    important voting rights issue. […………………………………..Carl Grossman and the NAACP are “gettin out da MoFo vote”!!! Marlboros, KFC, and lots of King Cobra to wash down the KFC “crispies”!!]

  10. 301

    Thus if you are one of those Insurance Office insiders who think Kreidler should be more partisan, I urge you to act on your convictions and please leak me any relevant documents. I promise to maintain your anonymity, and once again affirm my pledge to go to jail before ever revealing a source. -by Goldy, 08/31/2006, 11:13 AM

    Thus if you are one of those LIBERAL LONELY HEARTS CLUB DRUNKS insiders who think LA GOLDIE AND HIS COMRADES should be OUTED AS THE DRUNKEN PIGS THAT THEY ARE, I urge you to act on your convictions and please leak me PHOTOS, DRAWINGS AND/OR TAPES OF ALL THEIR STAGGERING, PUKING, BEING ARRESTED AND DIDDLING MINOR TRAMPS. I promise to maintain your anonymity, and once again affirm my pledge to go to jail before ever revealing a source.

  11. 302

    “Sit down, everyone! The muslims promised us they will land the plane safely. We Need to trust them!” [Carl Grossman]

  12. 303

    “Sit down on the plane! If you rush the terrorists, it will only make them mad, and create more terrorists.” [Carl Grossman]

  13. 304

    ” Why not just have a single, flat rate income tax with no deductions? Why do we have to have this complicated mess? ”

    And base it on net worth, and not “wages” right?

    You would think the rich would want to pay more for better security…. That way they get to keep their $$$ and someone starving wouldn’t want to slit their throats for a sandwich.

  14. 305

    ” 100,000 Ex-Felons Gain Right To Vote In Tennessee – In Time For November Elections ”

    Tennessee, isn’t that the state where almost every Republican official was officially pardoned by the governor for playing favorites on hiring?

    Tennessee where the corruption is like a big Republican family…

  15. 306

    “Attention: Sit down, everyone! The muslims promised us they will land the plane safely if we are nice to them. We need to trust them! They have rights and we must not offend their believes!” [Democrat Carl Grossman]

  17. 308

    I wish you all a well deserved DUI on the way home…Hic Try not to drive off a bridge with your mistress while you are at it…Hic….

  18. 309

    You have the perfect candidate in Washington State for the US Senate. An
    Independent with unique credentials…

  19. 310

    I remember Tennessee, and Lamar Alexander’s election as Governor. In Tennessee there is a traditional date for the new Governor to be inaugurated, but the Legislature actually has the power to set the Inaugural Day. The Democratic leaders of the Tennessee Legislature went to Alexander and asked him to take office early. Seems they wanted to stop the outgoing Democratic Governor from selling any more pardons and emptying the Tennessee prisons…

    Ah, yes, Tennessee. Where Knoxvile Democrat powerhouse Jake Butcher- who had been defeated by Lamar Alexander in an upset victory- plotted and connived with Jimmy Carter’s old friend and budget director Bert Lance on how to rip off banks without having to use a gun. Butcher was eventually sent off to federal prison with his bank declared insolvent- the fourth largest bank failure in American history.

    Yes, Tennessee- home of such honest Democrats. And don’t forget the shenanigans of the brothers Harold and John Ford, either. Or of sister Ophelia.

    Not that a Tennessee Democrat would ever do anything illegal.

  20. 311

    JK at 19: Until the mid-1930’s, private utilities argued that the government should not get involved in providing electricity to the public, but they only served the cities (stringing line in rural areas was not considered profitable). The Republican administrations agreed, and much of the rural south was without power (the power companies were big supporters of the Republicans back then). Only when FDR created the Tennessee Valley Authority and the Rural Electrification Project was electricity available to most of the South. Sometimes, in the 1960’s when my mother would turn on the lights in our house, she would mutter, “Thank God for FDR and TVA!” I thought this was rather strange, until I visited some of her relatives and they all did the same.

    So after that, the South was solidly Democratic through the 1970’s. Even though the Civil Rights movement caused some splits in the Democratic party, even Wallace wouldn’t run as a Republican, he would rather try a third-party run for the Presidency instead.

    Unfortunately, this meant that any Republican who wanted to get elected to public office had to pretend he was a Democrat. It wasn’t until Lamar Alexander was elected that the Republicans found they could get elected to office in Tennessee.

    I think its much better, now. Now all the crooks in Tennessee are free to call themselves Republicans, and you know where they stand.

  21. 312

    ROGER RABBIT ON VACATION
    Time for me to head for the truck stop to hitch a ride to Vegas! http://tinyurl.com/q368g I sure as hell don’t plan to HOP all the way there! Roger Rabbit is going to personally check out the salad bars in the Vegas casinos for two weeks.
    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 9/5/06@ 12:32 am

    Couldn’t make it to DL. Golden shower at Ann Coulter’s place last night. -Commentby Roger Rabbit— 9/6/06@ 7:49 am

    Rodent Rarebit (aka shit on a shingle

  23. 314

    PUBLIC NOTICE

    I did not post the following comment:

    “Couldn’t make it to DL. Golden shower at Ann Coulter’s place last night. Commentby Roger Rabbit— 9/6/06@ 7:49 am”

    It was posted by an imposter.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

Assuming somebody brings along a breathalyzer and a 200-pound man, I intend to run a little experiment to see exactly how many drinks it takes to get “Mike McGavick drunk”. I’ve got a free copy of Sen. Byron Dorgan’s new book, Take This Job and Ship It for the first person to show up with a functioning breathalyzer, and 8 or 9 free drinks and ride home for one lucky volunteer.

Washington liberals will also be drinking tonight in the Tri-Cities. Here’s a full run down of WA’s ten Drinking Liberally chapters:

Where: When: Next Meeting:
Burien: Mick Kelly’s Irish Pub, 435 SW 152nd St Fourth Wednesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward September 27
Kirkland: Valhalla Bar & Grill, 8544 122nd Ave NE Every Thursday, 7:00 pm onward August 31
Monroe: Eddie’s Trackside Bar and Grill, 214 N Lewis St Second Wednesday of each month, 7:00 PM onward September 13
Olympia: The Tumwater Valley Bar and Grill, 4611 Tumwater Valley Drive South First and third Monday of each month, 7:00-9:00 pm September 4
Seattle: Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Ave E Every Tuesday, 8:00 pm onward August 29
Spokane: Red Lion BBQ & Pub, 126 N Division St Every Wednesday, 7:00 pm August 30
Tacoma: Meconi’s Pub, 709 Pacific Ave Every Wednesday, 8:00 pm onward August 30
Tri-Cities: Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd, Richland Every Tuesday, 7:00 pm onward August 29
Vancouver: Hazel Dell Brew Pub, 8513 NE Highway 99 Second and fourth Tuesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward September 12
Walla Walla: The Green Lantern, 1606 E Isaacs Ave First Friday of each month, 8:00 pm onward September 1

Comments

  1. 315

    Roger Rabbit won’t attend DL tonight. I’ll be busy. I have to piss on Ann Coulter’s naked ass tonight. She’s horny.

  2. 316

    Tonight is Golden Shower Night at Ann Coulter’s house! Last week, a horse pissed on her. The week before that, a pig pissed on her. Tonight, she wants me to piss on her! What a fucking pervert.

  3. 317

    I’m not kidding! Look what she posted on HA!

    Absolutely right, Ann! I wouldn’t miss a chance to piss on you for the world.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 8/29/06@ 1:15 pm

    No, Roger, you’re the one who gets the showers!

    Commentby Ann Coulter— 8/29/06@ 1:27 pm

  4. 318

    Seriously folks, Roger enjoys his urine ablutions! I’m only happy to oblige him!!

  5. 319

    RUMSFELD ACCUSES WAR CRITICS OF ‘MORAL CONFUSION’

    “SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (Aug. 29) – Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld on Tuesday accused critics of the Bush administration’s Iraq and counterterrorism policies of trying to appease ‘a new type of fascism.’

    “In unusually explicit terms, Rumsfeld portrayed the administration’s critics as suffering from ‘moral or intellectual confusion’ about what threatens the nation’s security and accused them of lacking the courage to fight back.

    “In remarks to several thousand veterans at the American Legion’s national convention, Rumsfeld recited what he called the lessons of history, including the failed efforts to appease the Adolf Hitler regime in the 1930s. ‘I recount this history because once again we face similar challenges in efforts to confront the rising threat of a new type of fascism,’ he said.”

    This article is excerpted under the Fair Use doctrine; for complete story and/or copyright info, see http://tinyurl.com/r77s6

  7. 321

    Alcohol is but one factor that puts drivers at risk. Which factor led Darcy Burner to cause a 4 car pileup in July 2005, the same day she declared her candidacy?

  8. 322

    … okay, so I lied. The veteran was actually listening to Bush talking about “moral confusion.” It’s a lie white lie, compared to the great big black lie wingnuts told about this same photo:

    “Bill Moyer, 73, wears a ‘Bullshit Protector’ flap over his ear while Senator Ted Kennedy addresses the Veterans of Foreign Wars.”

    To wit:

    “Claim: Photograph shows a veteran wearing a ‘bullshit protector’ flap over his ear during a speech by Ted Kennedy.

    “Status: Real picture; inaccurate description. …

    “The original photograph and caption were released as shown below:

    ‘Bill Moyer, 73, wears a “Bullshit Protector” flap over his ear while President George W. Bush, on screen at rear, addresses the Veterans of Foreign Wars at their 106th convention Monday, Aug. 22, 2005, in Salt Lake City. Moyer served in Korea and Vietnam, and in the post-WWII occupation of Germany.'”

    This material from Snopes.com is quoted under the Fair Use doctrine; for complete text (w/photos) and/or copyright info, click on the link in #6 above.

  9. 323

    4

    Strip, babe. I’m on my way. And I’ve been drinking water all day, to get ready. Pervert.

  10. 324

    7

    She was distracted by you bending over butt-naked on the shoulder and getting fucked by a huge rabbit.

  12. 326

    Roger Rabbit has posted 83.33% of the comments on this thread. If you don’t like it … get drunk, get naked, and show up at Ann Coulter’s house at 8 PM.

  14. 328

    When Ann Coulter and PROUDtobeINCOHERENT have sex together, which one pretends to be female?

  15. 329

    wow! this thread has been up only 45 minutes and already has 15 posts! that’s more than the sucky little competing blog gets all day.

  17. 331

    I wonder why stefan won’t share his windfall from his lawsuit against King County with the generous donors to his “legal action fund” who paid for the lawsuit?

  18. 332

    You can get a breathalyzer on E-Bay for about $100 or less, depending on what model you want. The things are supposed to be good for 3,000 tests, so that is about 3 cents per test.

  19. 333

    Hey, I’ve got a simple test for Mike “I’ve Got Mine” McGavick.

    Have him call Sen. Frist, and tell him that it is vitally important to the Washington taxpayers, and to Mike McGavick personally, that the House adopts the Senate bill previously authored by Cantwell which will make the state sales tax deduction permanant. If he is such an effective problem-solver, surely he could convince HIS OWN PARTY to do this, in that it would benefit Sen. Frist’s home state of Tennessee, also.

    After all, he convinced Safeco to pay him 28 million for two months of part-time work! This should be a walk in the park for McGavick, who must be an incredible negotiator.

    Of course, if McGavick doens’t at least make the call, and support the bill, then it proves that he really doesn’t care about the Washington taxpayer, and just wants to try to create a misleading campaign issue. If McGavick makes the call, and Frist tells him to shove it, then it just demonstrates the obvious – that the Republicans didn’t want the bill to pass.

    Let’s see which McGavick shows up – the partison hack, or the “moderate conservative” who cares for Washington taxpayers.

  20. 334

    There can’t be a God. If there was as God, Elvis would still be alive and all the impersonators would be dead!

  21. 335

    Mr. Goldstein:

    Since I am the reason for your experiment, and in the interest of bi-partisan cooperation, I will be at Drinking Liberally this evening to be your experimental monkey. Since I received the $28m bonus(windfall politcal contribution) I feel it only fair that I pay for my own drinks. In fact, you know what, I will buy all the drinks tonight.

    I would like to urge all my “stinking drunk” supporters to attend tonight. Lets show our Democratic and Liberal friends that we can drink too.

    Mike!

  22. 336

    “’Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion’ – Norman Schwartzkopf”

  23. 337

    Re: # 19: Phone call from Mike “I’ve Got Mine” McGavick to Sen. Frist, Repubican House Majority Leader:

    Sen. Frist: Hello?
    Mike: Uh, Sen. Frist, Sir, this is Mike McGavick.
    Sen. Frist: Mike? Mike who?
    Mike: Mike McGavick. You know. Mike! The Republican candidate for Senate from Washington Sate.
    Sen. Frist: We have a Senate candidate in Washington State?
    Mike: Uh, Yes Sir, we do. It’s me.
    Sen. Frist: Isn’t that Cantwell’s seat?
    Mike: Correct, Sir.
    Sen. Frist: Oh, sorry, buddy. I didn’t realize we had found a sacrificial lamb, er, stooge, er, candidate to run for that seat.
    Mike: Well, yes Sir, we did, and its me.
    Sen. Frist: Oh, I remember now. You’re the guy that got all the Safeco money. It took Rove and a team of lawyers a month to figure out how to turn that campaign contribution into a “bonus”.
    Mike: Yes, Sir, that’s me. And I intend to earn the money when I get to the Senate, Sir.
    Sen. Frist: Well, Mike, that’s what was intended. Make sure Safeco gets it’s money worth. Now, what can I do for you? Make it quick. We’re going out to dinner, and I intend to stiff the waitress on the tip….
    Mike: Well, Sen. Frist, that’s kind of what I was going to call you about.
    Sen. Frist: Oh?
    Mike: “Well, you see, I was making the whole minimum wage/sales tax deduction/estate tax repeal a campaign issue against Cantwell. You know, telling voters that she voted against the bill, and cost them money.”
    Sen. Frist: “Well, that’s why we did it! It’s a win-win proposition for us. We knew that there was no way in hell the minimum wage bill would pass with the estate tax repeal added to it, so it gave us a free pass to toss in a few more “hand grenades” while we are at it. This one was aimed right at Cantwell. We already had the ads scripted before the bill even made it out of the house”.
    Mike: Yes Sir, and I appreciate it. But see, now I’m in a bit of a bind.
    Sen. Frist: How can you be in a bind? We gave it to you on a silver platter! What could be easier!
    Mike: Well, see, when I was working for Slade Gorton, I was his campaign manager, and I made this misleading negative ad about his opponent….
    Sen. Frist: So? That’s what you were expected to do!
    Mike: Well, I kind of apologize for it….
    Sen. Frist: YOU WHAT???!!!!! WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU DO A STUPID THING LIKE THAT????!!!!!
    Mike: Well, they told me that I needed to be “more human”, and that if I apologized for some minor things, it would make it more difficult for my opponent to criticize me for it…
    Sen. Frist: Well, I hope you didn’t do something stupid and apologize for anything else, like a DUI arrest nobody knows about…
    Mike: Well, Sir, I know you are busy so I’d better get right to the point.
    Sen. Frist: Please do (getting impatient).
    Mike: Well, it seems that since I apologized for one misleading ad, I’m getting a lot of heat from the papers about running the current misleading ad. What with Cantwell being the main sponsor of the legislation to continue the State Sales Tax Deduction and all, it IS kind of misleading to argue that she voted against it in the bill we loaded up with poison pills….
    Sen. Frist: Well, screw the papers! Most of our voters don’t read anyway. Just keep hammering away with those ads!
    Mike: Well, its been pointed out pretty clearly that if I really wanted the State Sales Tax Deduction, all I had to do was ask you to have the Republicans in the House vote for Cantwell’s bill.
    Sen. Frist: So? I’m not sure I like the way this conversation is heading….
    Mike: So, if I ask you to have the Republicans approve the Senate bill, and they do it, then I can take credit for saving the Sales Tax Deduction!
    Sen. Frist: You IDIOT! We Don’t give a rat’s ass about the sales tax deduction! It doesn’t really affect our base anyway, it’s pocket change to them. The income tax is the only thing that concerns them! If we extend the sales tax deduction, then it might make it harder to get more income tax cuts for our rich contributors!
    Mike: But I don’t think I can win if we don’t do it….
    Sen. Frist: Look, I thought you were smarter than that. There is no way in hell you are going to win anyway. I’m surprised you even took the job. But just keep hammering away with those ads. Like I said, most of our supporters can’t read newspapers anyway, so its bound to have some effect. Even though it won’t get you elected, it might bring in more Washington contributors we can add to our database for national fund-raising. Well, gotta go! Good Luck!
    “Click”.

  24. 338

    Fellow HA’ers:

    You may be pleased to know that Don Ward aka “ReporterWard” is now blogging for (un)SoundPolitics.com.

    He can’t resist taking a dig at Goldy either.

    Can’t make much sense out of what he’s writing over there. Maybe you can if you care to bother.

  25. 339

    May I assume one of your primary items of discussion will be how the correct your slanderous comments about who leaked V. Plame’s idenity?

    If you weren’t so hate-filled you might get something right now and then.

  26. 340

    rhp @ 23
    Excellent work. Probing the “thought processes” of Republican politicians can be horribly disheartening work, but someone’s got to do it. Kudos.

  27. 341

    Republicans – the gift that keeps on giving:

    State Department investigators have concluded that Kenneth Y. Tomlinson, the head of the federal agency that oversees most government broadcasts to foreign countries, improperly hired a friend on the public payroll for nearly $250,000 over two and a half years, according to a summary of their report made public this afternoon by Democratic Congressional staff members.

    They also said that Mr. Tomlinson, whose job puts him in charge of the Voice of America and Radio Free Europe, used his government office for personal business, including running a “horse racing operation” in which he supervised a stable of thoroughbreds he named after leaders from Afghanistan, including President Hamid Karzai and the late Ahmed Shah Massoud, that have raced at tracks across the United States.

    Excuse me JC Bob if I harbor “dislike” for people who are spending my kids’ future into a hole.

  28. 342

    Goldie, as a back up plan you might get buy with a 200lb man with a cell phone. Input the drinks and have him call the police.
    Hell-llo izz this the poleece cuz I would like to know if its ok for me to drive home now.
    Yup I had a few sis or sebon I don’t know. Hey Goldy old chum how many drinks did you make me drink?
    Goldy says nine. Ah you better hurry everyone here has two heads and I need to drive home now.
    My name? Its Mike but you can call me McSafeco………………………………………………………..
    You should have nooooo problem getting a breathalizer test.

  30. 344

    And thus begins a DL tradition — the “Designated Drinker”.

    From now on, one volunteer will be selected to do all the drinking for the group, providing at least an hour of pre-podcast entertainment.

  33. 347

    And thus begins a DL tradition – the “Designated Drinker”.

    From now on, one volunteer will be selected to do all the drinking for the group, providing at least an hour of pre-podcast entertainment.

    Sort of like the ancients sending out a hero to do battle on their behalf. I like it – keeps the casualties to a minimum.

  34. 348

    While tonight at Libs Getting Stinking Drunk, discuss another of Left Turdball’s friends on the left: “Ivy League Professor Caught with Videos That Show Him Having Sex with Children, Feds Say’

    “An Ivy League business school professor is in federal custody for allegedly having videos of himself engaging in sexual acts with children, ABC News has learned.

    Lawrence Scott Ward, 63, Professor Emeritus of Marketing at University of Pennsylvania’s renowned Wharton School of Business, was caught with child pornography in his luggage and on his laptop computer after arriving at Dulles International Airport on a flight from Brazil, according to court documents.

    An affidavit in support of a criminal complaint filed today in federal court in Alexandria says Ward’s luggage was flagged for a more thorough inspection for possible child pornography after a customs officer noticed Ward’s “excessive” trips to Thailand. Federal agents recovered at least three DVDs, in which Ward appears to be “engaging in sexual contact” with children, the affidavit reads. A video of children as young as eight engaged in sexual activity was also allegedly found on Ward’s laptop computer.

    Ward’s resume says he has been a visiting professor at Chulalongkorn University in Thailand. Federal officials believe Thailand to be a well-known destination for so-called “sex tourists” who travel there to exploit minors. Wharton’s website also lists pro bono consulting work in Brazil as one of Ward’s current projects.

    According to published reports, in 1999 Ward was fined $2,500 and sentenced to five years probation on charges of attempting to promote prostitution and corrupt minors. In that case, he entered a plea which allowed him to acknowledge that there was sufficient evidence to convict him, without admitting guilt for those charges.

    Ward’s resume lists several government consulting assignments including work with the Executive Office of the President, the FCC, Department of Commerce and the Special Action Office for Drug Abuse Prevention. Many of his published works deal with the effects of television advertising and marketing on children and adolescents. According to his biography, Ward has been a marketing consultant to many top companies and lists IBM, Microsoft, General Motors, Home Depot, Exxon, Citibank and Johnson & Johnson among his clients. During the 1980s, he hosted a television program, “The Wharton Business Report” on the now defunct Financial News Network. Ward’s biography also states that he was chairman of a foundation that served disadvantaged children with learning disabilities.

    The University of Pennsylvania issued the following statement today, relating to Ward’s arrest, “We have just learned of the arrest of Scott Ward in Virginia. At the present time, we have very few details. We are currently gathering information about the situation and will take appropriate action as soon as we know more.”

    Hey Turdball: I bet a thorough checking will show him as a member of your brother’s organization NAMBLA. Why is it most child molesters are librul? He’s a professor, he’s from a librul IVY League skuul, so he must be a moonbat!

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    “If we don’t drink and drive, how will we find our cars in the morning? Sam Kinison

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    33
    Put in such terms, the call of duty becomes quite compelling. Every war requires sacrifice, and I’m feeling like maybe I should take one for the team. What’s the loss of one night, and maybe the following morning, if it’s for the greater good? After a bit of training, I should be ready to take my turn at the taps.

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    The police were tired of a certain bar where patrons regularly over-indulged, so they decided to stake out the bar at closing time. An officer waited in his car across the street, watching patrons leave. Shortly before closing time, one patron stumbled out of the bar, obviously drunk, and took quite some time trying to find his cars, find his keys, get the keys in the door to unlock the car, then get in the car.

    In the meantime, the other patrons filed out of the bar and got into their vehicles and drove away. But the officer ignored them, focusing instead on this one guy who was obviously wasted. No way was he going to drink and drive tonight!

    Finally, after everyone else leaves, the drunk patron puts his keys into the ignition, and starts the engine. The officer immediatly turns on his lights and pulls in front of him, blocking his exit. “Out of the car!” he commands. The driver obeys, and the officer puts him through the normal sobriety test. Surprisingly, the driver passes easily, and doesn’t seem to be affected by his drinking at all. The officer pulls out his portable breathalyzer, and has the guy breath into it. 0.0!!!!!

    “How in the hell can you be so drunk not thirty minutes ago, and be clean and sober now!” demands the officer.

    “Simple, officer. I don’t drink. I’m the decoy!”

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    34

    I thought all the business school profs are Republicans …? Most child molesters are … so it fits.

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    What amazed me about the hurricane and Nee Orleans is that the electorate was actually dumb enough to re-elect that imbecile Nagin. When they voted, they all must have been saying to themselves, “He may be an imbecile, but he’s OUR imbecile!”.

    They have no one but themselves to blame for re-electing that dumbass.

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    Pudybud at 34: I don’t think the University of Pennsylvania is an Ivy League school, but I could be wrong. But more importantly, the professer was in the marketing department of the business school. That makes it more likely he was Republican than Democrat, based upon my prior experience with business school students at both the undergraduate and graduate level.

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    I thought all the business school profs are Republicans …? Most child molesters are … so it fits. Commentby Roger Rabbit— 8/29/06@ 4:41 pm

    Pellet: Give up thinking. It strains your minute “rabbit” brain and it demonstrates how unarmed you are with people who possess cognitive skills.

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    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 8/29/06@ 4:24 pm

    “We’ve said all along it was a neocon traitor, and we were right.”

    Richard Armitage is a neocon traitor?

    http://www.slate.com/id/2148555

    “It turns out that the person who put Valerie Plame’s identity into circulation was a staunch foe of regime change in Iraq.”

    That doesn’t sound like a “neocon” to me. As usual you’re playing fast an loose with the facts again.

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    All,

    Be kind to Roger Rabbit: he’s a poor, retired hack lawyer whose life has gone horribly wrong.

    Roger, take your meds and lie down.

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    rhp6033: Being an IVY League product I can vouch for UoP. Marketing Department: Marketing people are the biggest BSer’s ’round. They smiles in ur face but all the time they wanna take ur place – librul marketers. Liberties taken with the Ojay’s song. Hey I’m black and I liked the O’Jays. For most moonbats look them up on the Internet!

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    Richard Armitage is on the John McCain campaign. Yeah, right Le Lapin Pelletizer. He drank too much of Ann Coulter’s warm piss! Unlike the brain lock (or brain freeze) problem when you ingest very cold substances, Pellet gets butt lock. His butt locks his fingers and they blog absentmindedly.

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    Commentby rhp6033— 8/29/06@ 4:43 pm

    “I don’t think the University of Pennsylvania is an Ivy League school but I could be wrong.”

    You’re wrong, Penn is an Ivy League school.

    “But more importantly, the professer was in the marketing department of the business school. That makes it more likely he was Republican than Democrat, based upon my prior experience with business school students at both the undergraduate and graduate level.”

    Obvioiusly you didn’t go to Penn, so what basis would you have to say a Marketing professor at Penn is more likely to be a Republican than a Democrat?

    Puddy, if you are going to quote an article, please link to it. It’s specious to judge the morals of an entire group based upon the behavior of one person. You sound ridiculous and you are undermining your credibility.

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    Puddybud
    Your speculation that the arrested professor is a liberal shows how facts never intrude upon your “reasoning” process. The Wharton School is the leading graduate business school in the nation, hardly a hotbed of liberalism. Donald Trump, for instance, went to Wharton. The conservative’s capacity to leap to conclusions in the face of no evidence whatsoever would be amusing if not so dangerous.

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    LOL

    We’re supposed to apologize because the guy who first outed Valerie Plame was an Undersecretary of State?????

    You guys are too funny.

    Of course, Scooter and Rove were hot on his heels to spread the word. Next you’ll be telling us they didn’t know one another.

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    Puddybud Your speculation that the arrested professor is a liberal shows how facts never intrude upon your “reasoning” process. The Wharton School is the leading graduate business school in the nation, hardly a hotbed of liberalism. Donald Trump, for instance, went to Wharton. The conservative’s capacity to leap to conclusions in the face of no evidence whatsoever would be amusing if not so dangerous. Commentby proud leftist— 8/29/06@ 4:56 pm

    You mean you are complaining when I implement Left Turdball logic? Wow, the facts hurt, huh? Hey if it’s good for Left Turdball it’s good enough for me to sling unsubstantiated mud. Live with it or suck Pellet’s little weiner!

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    OK, PudWhacker, NAME THE SCHOOL. And while your at it, tell if that’s your mother, or your wife, since she is old enough to be you mother. . . . .

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    42

    “… it demonstrates how unarmed you are with people who possess cognitive skills” Commentby Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy— 8/29/06@ 4:44 pm

    Who — you … ?!

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

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    It looks like the righties here are doing a little deflection and contenting themselves with sliming the University of Pennsylvania in general, rather than focus on the prof. who’s really got their dander up:

    On both Monday’s NBC Nightly News and a prime time special, left-wing professor Michael Eric Dyson, author of Come Hell or High Water: Hurricane Katrina and the Color of Disaster. Williams, from New Orleans, set up his Nightly News segment by arguing the disaster “destroyed” a lot and “it exposed a lot, too, including, some say, the dicey issues of race and class in our country.” Dyson, a regular on Bill Maher’s HBO show and a professor at the University of Pennsylvania, declared: “The people in New Orleans were left behind long before the vicious winds and violent waters of Hurricane Katrina came along to wash them away.”

    http://newsbusters.org/node/7233

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    It’s put up or shutup time “Ivy Leaguer”. . . Commentby Tree Frog Farmer— 8/29/06@ 5:12 pm

    I have stated where I went and the years I was there JACKASS! Screw you and Pellet’s Armadillo. I don’t do requests or answer to TreeFrogKillablog.

    Oh BTW, my undergraduate diploma is in my bedroom, JACKASS! Kiss my black ASS sucka!

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    43

    Oh I see — now that we know whodunnit, he’s not one of yours … let’s do a fact check:

    1978 – aide to Sen. Bob Dole
    1980 – foreign policy adviser to Ronald Reagan
    1981 to 1992 – various posts in Reagan/Bush administrations
    1998 – signer of “Project for New American Century”
    2000 – foreign policy adviser to George W. Bush
    2001 – appointed by G. W. Bush to state department post
    2006 – director of ConocoPhillips

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Armitage

    If it walks like a neocon and talks like a neocon, it probably is a neocon

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    Mummified Brain Tuttle: Since I seldom watch Bill Maher how would I know about your “beloved” professor? Maher is a moonbat of moonbats! While winding through the Internet, enjoying a good read, I came across that professor. I remembered Left Turdball blaming us whom think right as child molesters. All I did, and will continue to do, is to post facts to counteract your fallacies. Janet rightly said facts hurt the mind of libruls.

    MWS has started a count on the cheap labor Pellet. I instead will just post links that blow apart your supposed truth theorems on how we operate.

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    PudWhacker you’ve already lied once. You have said GBS said you are black, but he denes he ever saw you. Try again, you phony blowhard.

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    PudWhacker, you are a Phony, a liar, and a fool. “Ivy League” my ass. . .

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    47

    “It’s specious to judge the morals of an entire group based upon the behavior of one person. You sound ridiculous and you are undermining your credibility.” Commentby ConservativeFirst— 8/29/06@ 4:54 pm

    No! You don’t say? Then how come wingnuts do it every day? Does this mean their guilt-by-association tactic is specious, ridiculous, and not credible?

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    Your phony a faker and a liar. Name the schol. give the dates.
    Commentby Tree Frog Farmer— 8/29/06@ 5:18 pm

    Two word answer FUCK YOU Killfroggie! GBS remembers where I went to school. But I know GBS will NOT post it. He’s too much a gentleman, unlike your Killfroggie. I even posted my undergraduate degree on this blog recently. Implement librul search skillz. I can find just about anything blogged on ASSes. What s your problem Killfroggie? Too many rancid brain cells? A righty who has skillz to pay the billz and you are unleaded and unloaded? I can’t help it if God gave you a limp mind along with your limp dick! Swing low sweeeeeeeeet chariot!

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    GBS couldn’t make it to the meeting. But PacMan and I was at his favorite haunt. I even gave him some clues in early 2006. Oh I’m black. And if needed I’ll publicly drop my drawers for him to demonstrate the snake.

    GBS, maybe we can meet again and I will have PacMan attend. I paid for PacMan’s food.

    GBS, you could have been a contenda. Instead you joined the pretendas. Where are you GBS?

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    51

    You can lick my cute cottontail anytime! For a good time, call 1-800-LICK-ROG!

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    “Puddy, if you are going to quote an article, please link to it. It’s specious to judge the morals of an entire group based upon the behavior of one person. You sound ridiculous and you are undermining your credibility.” ConservativeFirst @ 47

    Your point is well made. Plainly, there are sinners, charlatans, and beasts on both sides of the political spectrum. Arguing otherwise is nonsense. Posting an article like that about the Wharton professor, and then speculating about his political leanings is a waste of everyone’s time.

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    56

    “Oh BTW, my undergraduate diploma is in my bedroom, JACKASS!”
    Commentby Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy— 8/29/06@ 5:16 pm

    You jerk off to it?

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    We know where you are PudWacker, La-La Land for lyin’ sack’s of Neoconvict Bs. . .

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    ATJ: DISMISSED with PREJUDICE!, Yeah, my black ass needs your lips. I’ll mark the spot.

    I remember seeing Vince McMahon having a Kiss My ASS show on WWE while browsing the Internet. I missed it but I think there needs to be a Kiss My ASS when GBS and I meet up. I’m sure YO will attend and have GBS kiss his ASS.

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    59

    “MWS has started a count on the cheap labor Pellet.” Commentby Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy— 8/29/06@ 5:22 pm

    Is he up to 500 yet? Will 500 be enough?

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    Stefan – are you going to share the proceeds of your lawsuit against King County with the generous donors to your “legal action fund” who paid for the lawsuit, and if not, why not?

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    Puddybud,

    Mr. Tomlinson’s ouster last November from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting was prompted by a separate investigation by that organization’s inspector general. That inquiry found evidence that Mr. Tomlinson had violated rules as he sought more conservative programs and that he improperly intervened to help the staff of The Wall Street Journal’s editorial page win a $4.1 million contract — one of the largest programming contracts issued by the corporation — to finance a weekly program on public television.

    ily edited State Department report on Mr. Tomlinson’s activities at the Broadcasting Board of Governors did not specify the identity of the friend who received the improper contract at the direction of Mr. Tomlinson. Agency officials said he was a retired worker already on a government pension who was rehired by Mr. Tomlinson, without the knowledge of the board or any competitive bidding process, to work on projects for him. The employee was known by other employees as “the phantom” because he was often not at work, other agency employees said.

    Are you going to apologize for this thief?

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    ““Ivy League” my ass. . . Commentby Tree Frog Farmer— 8/29/06@ 5:25 pm

    He thinks he went to an “Ivy League” school because there was ivy growing on his community college campus.

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    65

    “Conservative christians sure are potty-mouths.” Commentby Another TJ— 8/29/06@ 5:29 pm

    Yeah, no shit!

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    Guess I’ll just have to send GBS down there with my polaroid. . .wecan gat a good picture of you PINK ‘roids.

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    69

    “Posting an article like that about the Wharton professor, and then speculating about his political leanings is a waste of everyone’s time.” Commentby proud leftist— 8/29/06@ 5:31 pm

    Agree; but if he posts it, we may as well have fun speculating.

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    76

    “Conservative christians sure are hot-heads.” Commentby Another TJ— 8/29/06@ 5:34 pm

    They have hot lips, too! hehehe

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    ConservativeFirst: I sound ridiculous? I implement the librul moronic moonbat blogging technique of the ASSHeads hero Left Turdball. Post shit and let it land. Now that’s ridiculous.

    For you I’ll give the link but don’t ask me for links again. If you read the article you saw it was from ABC News. I was burned once by David and I promised to make amends and I have. Don’t tell me you are in the Pellet mode of reading?

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/ – Navigate to the third or fourth article.

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    Are you going to apologize for this thief? Commentby For the Clueless— 8/29/06@ 5:34 pm

    Yeah, when all the ASSHeads apologize for Left Turdball. Until that happens Go to Hellen Wait!

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    Yes, Christians can get indignant. You all are the money changers in the Jewish temple when Jesus came by.

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    “Conservative christians sure are hot-heads.” Commentby Another TJ— 8/29/06@ 5:34 pm They have hot lips, too! hehehe Commentby Roger Rabbit— 8/29/06@ 5:39 pm

    I’m surprised Pelelt is now kissing Ann Coulter? Imagine that?

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    Keep trying to change the subject, phony. You don’t have GBS to hide behind. You can’t come up with goods. Go away, goofballpudwhacker. . .take your batshit crazy posts with you.

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    PudWhacker is the “The Great Pretender” livin’ the fantasy with his mother. . . .

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    “Oh BTW, my undergraduate diploma is in my bedroom, JACKASS!”
    Commentby Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy— 8/29/06@ 5:16 pm You jerk off to it? Commentby Roger Rabbit— 8/29/06@ 5:32 pm

    Hey at least I have something to grab. You run around claiming to fuck female bunnies. I finally figured out why. Size. That’s all you got. No matter what women say SIZE MATTERS. I won’t speculate on Mrs. Rabbit. Not fair to speculate on “her”.

    JCH no tookie jokes here. I am having fun at Pellet’s expense. The Pellet is getting spanked by his own armadillo!

  89. 403

    TreeKillaFrogfaggot: Mom is dead. I already mentioned that. Lay off of my mom. Or are you an unresolved problem that needs a reolution?

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    For the Clueless,

    Thanks for your plug. It’s always good to meet folks who read my work. I’ll be at the Montlake shindig again for curiosity’s sake if you want to show your face.
    And if you need me to tone down the writing, I’ll take that under advice. Usually newspaper reporters are instructed to write at an eighth grade level. Perhaps I can lower that standard to the fourth grade so you can follow along with the rest of the class.

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    I won’t speculate on Mrs. Rabbit. Not fair to speculate on “her”.

    JCH no tookie jokes here.

    Commentby Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy— [……………………………………………..Mrs. Rabbit IS fair game. And I’ll save the “Tookie” Williams jokes for Mrs. Grossman. hehe, JCH]

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    Keep blathering and lying. You are not ‘Ivy League’, I doubt you’re black, and I know

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    Tree Frog, A question: What percentage of the New Orleans looters vote Democrat? 98%………99%………..100%……….110%…[lots of voter fraud with Democrats!]

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    Treekillafrogmuthafucka: I have the goods and my diploma. BTW I posted where I grew up in Philly. Goldie NEVER has. Why? because he’s a white boy from the ‘burbs. He’s not a true Phillie man. True Philly fans cheer for the Flyers, the Phillies and the Eagles no matter where we live. We had Veteran’s Stadium. We booed Santa Claus. We have Vince Papale the Walk-on!

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    Pudybud at 34: I don’t think the University of Pennsylvania is an Ivy League school
    Commentby rhp6033 [………….Er, May I suggest you don’t know shit about Pennsylvania schools. hehe, JCH]

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    Treekillafrogmuthafucka: You can’t search the Internet.

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

    You are impotent, incompetent, and insecure! To seal a line “Sucks to be you”!

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    For the Clueless,

    Thanks for your plug. It’s always good to meet folks who read my work. I’ll be at the Montlake shindig again for curiosity’s sake if you want to show your face. And if you need me to tone down the writing, I’ll take that under advice. Usually newspaper reporters are instructed to write at an eighth grade level. Perhaps I can lower that standard to the fourth grade so you can follow along with the rest of the class. Commentby Reporterward— 8/29/06@ 5:49 pm

    Now that’s a smackdown

  98. 412

    Puddybud
    Your ceaseless proclamations concerning your Christianity are embarrassing. You are first and foremost a rightwing fanatic. Religious tenets have no recognizable impact on your politics. Read Matthew 25, and don’t tell me about going down to New Orleans to help out. Do you honestly believe Jesus Christ would support Bush’s actions concerning, oh say, Abu Graib, Guantanamo, and Fallujah? You’re kind of pitiful, Puddybud, but down deep I think you mean well.

  99. 413

    The kicker is, Armitage didn’t even know Plame had once been undercover. We can thank Wilson for breaking that story.

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    Puddy: Good to see you. Didn’t you ax “K” where he went as he claimed Ivy League status? Didn’t “K” claim he would answer you but I must have missed it. Didn’t you and Goldie attend the same Ivy League school but I could be mistaken?

  101. 415

    John Craig is certainly a brave soul.

    Commentby My Left Foot [……..Bark, Mrs. Grossman! Bark!!!]

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    MWS: I am doing fine.

    Too bad the librul mind has no memory. Yes, I thought somewhere Goldie said he want to the same school. I think TreeKillaFrogFaggot is jealous of his CC heritage. It’s okay TreeKillaFrogFaggot if you are a producer.

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    BOSTON – The family of a woman killed in a Big Dig tunnel when 12 tons of concrete ceiling panels fell on her car filed a wrongful death lawsuit Tuesday against the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority and contractors that worked on the highway project. **SNIP** Del Valle’s death prompted tunnel and road closures and sparked a public furor over the $14.6 billion Big Dig project under downtown Boston.

    [A monument to the Democrat party. Not a Republican around for miles from this Democrat pig fuck!!!!!]

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    59.

    Not every reference can be to Michelle Malkin, pudfucker. Most people, though, have a passing familiarity with NBC Evening News, the major point of the story.

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    Yes, the featured speaker at the Liberal Drunk in – this evening will be NOW SENATOR EDWARD KENNEDY…Questions anyone?

    “Thank you, Mr. Kennedy, for appearing before this Liberal Drunk in panel to answer questions pertaining to your suitability for sitting in your senate seat. As you have already been sworn in, please answer the following questions on your ethical ability & views truthfully and to the best of your ability:

    1. Who was Mary Jo Kopechne?

    2. Were you married at the time you knew Mary Jo Kopechne?

    3. Did you have sexual relations with her as defined either
    by popular convention or by the Bill Clinton definition?

    4. What happened that night in Chapaquitic?

    5. Were you drinking that night?

    6. Were you drunk?

    7. Why were you driving?

    8. Why did you leave that girl to die in a sinking car?

    9. Why should you not be in a prison for drunken driving &
    vehicular manslaughter?

    10. Have you ever been under the influence while in a Senate
    committee or on the Senate floor?

    Thank you, Mr. Kennedy, for invoking your 5th Admendment rights.

    Please do not call us, we will call you. Please take care in leaving this chamber and don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.”

    And Mike McGavick is not fit to sit in the senate?

    Hypocrits

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    I have learned two things reading this thread today.

    1. Pussypud is sensitive about him mommy.

    2. John Craig has no new material.

    Pussypud, your momma made a huge mistake when you were not aborted.

    JCH on the other hand cries out for post birth abortion. I wonder if he has gotten himself untangled from Tookie.

    As for jacking off to your diploma, that is a bit perverted. I wouldn’t post that on the blog again. Some folks are not as sensitive as Roger and I and they might attempt to use the subject to aggravate you further.

  109. 423

    JCH is a brave soul, hiding behind his computer. JCH continues to misrepresent what I said by only using half of my statement. In doing so he is just like Mike!.

    What’s the matter with him. Drugs, birth defects, abuse? Or just Tookie pounding away at his ass?

  110. 424

    HOw the fuck do you moonbats manage to get the wrong answer every fucking time? Instead of handing out some bullshit simple minded fucking book about “corporate greed’, how ’bout you find out how the world really works? Are all of you really as fucking stoopid as Goldy makes you out to be?

    Here’s the book you all should read if you want to understand the global economy.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ.....8;n=283155

    Friedman is certainly no conservative; he takes frequent jabs at President Bush. But he understands how the world works and the forces shaping the global economy.

    So you can stick your head up your ass and read Dorgan’s book, or you can grow up and learn something.

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    And Mike McGavick is not fit to sit in the senate?

    No. His DUI being only a minor indicator of his unfitness to serve.

    As for Teddy Kennedy, I don’t live in MA. Nothing I can do about him.

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    Not every reference can be to Michelle Malkin, pudfucker. Most people, though, have a passing familiarity with NBC Evening News, the major point of the story. Commentby Harry Tuttle— 8/29/06@ 6:28 pm

    Mummified: I can navigate directly to Michelle Malkin.com dingleberry. Don’t watch NBC News. They’re too depressing. I get my giggles at See BS. See BS suggested we all watch for the “second cumming”. You know, Katie Couric! Keep that brain in formaldehyde – Mummified!

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    They ain’t so good at grammar or punctuation, either. Commentby proud leftist— 8/29/06@ 6:19 pm

    Sucka: You could move to ebonics. We speak ebonics in da innur cidy long b4 Oakland ever pennied it!

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    Pussypud, your momma made a huge mistake when you were not aborted. As for jacking off to your diploma, that is a bit perverted. I wouldn’t post that on the blog again. Some folks are not as sensitive as Roger and I and they might attempt to use the subject to aggravate you further. Commentby My Left Foot— 8/29/06@ 6:50 pm

    CarlWhoCan’tTellHeHasTwoLeftFeet: Apparently you too are chronologically challenged to blog entries. Pellet, whom has the little rabbit dick, accused me of whacking on my diploma. I never forwarded anything close to that. Read DumbASS!

    Momma didn’t ascribe to donkoinfanticide. Since the best part of your personality ran down your mother’s leg upon conception it’s readily apparent why you are donk. She should hve reacted to the load loss your idiot savant father was packing. I guess being in the mental institution didn’t help her either when you were conceived. No brain no pain. How is that box of chocolates?

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    LITHUANIA — An initial report from Lithuania of a drunk driver with blood alcohol level 18 times the legal limit has now been corrected as the driver was Ted Kennedy.

    “We were initially shocked by the blood alcohol level,” said a Lithuanian police chief. “When we realized it was the American Ted Kennedy, we knew it was not really a big deal. His normal blood alcohol level is 22 times the legal limit, so he was actually very sober when we took his measurements. It’s genetic.”

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    91

    Mrs. Rabbit wants you to know she has “a lot of guy traits” and wants to know if your teeth would like to meet her knuckles.

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    93

    JCH, I’ve got a question for YOU … what percentage of corrupt Republican congressmen are Republicans?

    [ ] 1. 100%

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    95

    Hey Puddy be careful, that’s Craig’s alma mater’s sister you’re insulting.

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    98

    “down deep I think you mean well” Commentby proud leftist— 8/29/06@ 5:59 pm

    I respectfully disagree.

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    99

    The No. 2 guy at State didn’t know Plame was CIA? I knew the Bushies were dumb motherfuckers, but I didn’t think they were THAT ignorant.

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    CarlTwoLeftFeetNoBrains sez: I have learned two things reading this thread today. 1. Pussypud is sensitive about him mommy. 2. John Craig has no new material. Vomit by My Left Foot— 8/29/06@ 6:50 pm

    Too bad your whorehouse upbringing after the mental institutional conception deprived you of motherly love. That’s why I revere my mom. I learned all about donk in high places from her! Nuff SAID!

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    102

    “John Craig is certainly a brave soul.” Commentby My Left Foot

    In the same way that drunks who drive 100 mph are “brave,” maybe.

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    HowCan: That Kennedy Parody was very funny. Can you find a Grossman one?

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    108

    “And Mike McGavick is not fit to sit in the senate? Hypocrits”
    Commentby GS— 8/29/06@ 6:35 pm

    All Kennedy did was get drunk and kill a woman. He didn’t try to steal the waitress tip jar.

    P.S. – Laura killed a guy, and she wasn’t even drinking.

  130. 444

    Father Joe, Mother Rose and their 3 sons, John, Bobby and Teddy are conversing around the table after dinner. The subject of traits of parents being passed on to children comes up.
    The Father says, “John has my eyes, Bobby has my creativity, and Teddy has my intelligence.”

    Teddy responds, “Daddy, what’s intelligence?”

  131. 445

    Keep blathering and lying. You are not ‘Ivy League’, I doubt you’re black, and I know Commentby Tree Frog Farmer— 8/29/06@ 5:49 pm

    How do you know? Are U one of them (those for the honkies) Nagin Negores? Jackson Jerks? Sharpton Slackers?

  134. 448

    Erratum Negroes:

    133 Continued – Or you know because you worked on Howard Dean’s campaign where you know he had no blacks on his staff? Or you know because John Kerry told you how most blacks are sheeple for the reservation?

  135. 449

    116

    Truth hurts, doesn’t it? So keep filling your empty skull with cotton candy, pudwhacker.

  140. 454

    133 Can’t even spell “Negroes” and you expect us to believe you are one? Commentby Roger Rabbit— 8/29/06@ 7:51 pm 133 (continued) I’m surprised you didn’t use the other N word. Commentby Roger Rabbit— 8/29/06@ 7:52 pm

    Negro was something whitey called us. I ain’t a negro. I think for myself!

  141. 455

    Pellet why would I use a term of endearment on a sucka lowlife such as TreeKillaFrogFaggot? I address my homies that way, not donk suckas!

  142. 456

    97

    Don!!! You like to meet those who read your work? Gee I wish I could say it worked the other way around.

    I’m afraid I can’t make it to DL tonight. I just can’t stand being in the same room with some people.

    I wonder how Goldy manages after someone writes something like this:

    I’m always amazed at the amount of time wasted on discussing the ranting of an irrelevant failure and what he does on his blog. Posted by: Reporterward on January 23, 2006 12:38 PM

    Eight-grade writing to be sure.

  143. 457

    142

    “I think for myself!” Commentby Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy— 8/29/06@ 7:53 pm

    I’ve never seen any evidence of that.

  144. 458

    144

    Reporterward’s 8th-grade writing is entirely appropriate for his audience over at Sucky Politics. That’s as far as Stefan’s readers’ education goes.

  145. 459

    “John Craig is certainly a brave soul.” Commentby My Left Foot

    In the same way that drunks who drive 100 mph are “brave,” maybe.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit [……………………..No, that would be Democrat Senator Teddy!!!!!]

  146. 460

    The No. 2 guy at State didn’t know Plame was CIA?

    There are many people at the CIA. Most of them aren’t undercover. Most of them drive right up to their building every day just like you do at your job, go through the gate at the CIA headquarters for all the world to see, its kind of hard to keep that kind of thing under wraps.

  147. 461

    Carl, If you are going to tell “Tookie” jokes, please use the term “Democrat hero Tookie Williams”. This black Bemocrat killed three, and the black Democrat libs LOVED this guy!!! Classically funny to see Democrats Al and Jesse suck this guy!! [Not a Republican around Tookie for miles!!!]

  148. 462

    149, BTW. “axe” Mrs. Groosman about Tookie’s “9 inches of Democrat love”!! I’m sure she looks at you and……………………………well, laughs!!!!!

  149. 463

    “John Craig is certainly a brave soul.” Commentby My Left Foot

    In the same way that drunks who drive 100 mph are “brave,” maybe.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit [………………………………………………………………………………………….Were you thinking of REP Pat Kennedy, DEMOCRAT, RI?]

  152. 466

    Pellet at #145: Reread #42. It’s been a little while and your mind is a terrible thing.

  153. 467

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 8/29/06@ 5:21 pm

    “If it walks like a neocon and talks like a neocon, it probably is a neocon”

    Your list makes Armitage a Republican, but hardly defines him as a neocon.

    From your own link (which apparently you didn’t read):

    “A close associate of Secretary of State Colin Powell, Armitage was regarded, along with Powell, as a moderate within the presidential administration of George W. Bush.”

    So moderates are neocons? Since neocon is short for neoconservative, I don’t see how that is possible.

  154. 468

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 8/29/06@ 5:26 pm

    “No! You don’t say? Then how come wingnuts do it every day? Does this mean their guilt-by-association tactic is specious, ridiculous, and not credible?”

    Yes. How come liberals (such as yourself) engage in the same tactics everyday? And spare me the the juvenille argument that “they started it”, so liberals have to do it too.

    So is the following guilt-by-association argument specious?

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 8/29/06@ 4:41 pm

    “I thought all the business school profs are Republicans …? Most child molesters are … so it fits.”

  155. 469

    It time to post the latest rant from the new “Little Hitler”. Pay close attention to the anti-semitic undertones of his letter.

    Full Text of Pres. Ahmadinejad’s Letter to German Chancellor

    TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad recently forwarded a letter to the German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

    This was President Ahmadinejad’s second letter to the heads of western states, considering an earlier one he wrote to the US President, George W. Bush.

    Unlike his first letter to Bush, President Ahmadinejad in his letter to Merkel, has touched on his country’s nuclear issue, where he has stressed that Iran’s decision for the acquisition of the nuclear technology is irrevocable.

    “What follows is the full text of President Ahmadinejad’s letter to the German Chancellor.”

    In the Name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate

    Her Excellency Angela Merkel

    The Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany

    Excellency,

    Please accept my warmest greetings.

    If it had not been for Germany being a great contributor to progress in science, philosophy, literature, arts and politics;

    If it had not been for a more important and positive influence of Germany in international relations and promotion of peace;

    Moreover, if it had not been for the persistence of a strong will by certain global powers and special groups to constantly portray Germany as defeated and indebted country of World War II in order to continue their extortions;

    And if it had not been for the presence of Your Excellency at the top of the executive branch of your country as an experienced stateswoman with bitter and sweet experiences in two dissimilar societies with different political systems and traditions,

    And at the same time, if it had not been for the advantages that are limited to women, such as stronger human sentiments and certain manifestations of the divine compassion and kindness, specially in the position of a mother and being at the service of the people, and the common responsibility of all people with faith in God to defend human dignity and worth and to prevent violations of their rights and their humiliation, and proceeding from this conviction that we are all created by the Almighty and He has bestowed upon us all dignity and no one has any special privileges over the other, and under no circumstances could a society be deprived of its rights, barred from pursuit of progress and perfection or be controlled or humiliated;

    Finally, if it had not been for the oppression, however different, of our nations, our shared responsibility to promote justice as the most basic foundation for promotion of peace and human equality, I would not have found the motive to write this letter.

    Honorable Chancellor

    Rulers come and go, but people with culture and history and their attachments and desires will keep on staying. Opportunities in front of those in position of high power are transient, even if they may be vast and broad. These opportunities are very auspicious and can play a key role in the negative and positive transformations and developments of a nation.

    Those in position of high power do not normally have many opportunities, but are accountable before the Almighty and people due to their high responsibility. We know this, and you know it as well.

    Some of these developments can have regional, continental and global ramifications and can hardly be overlooked.

    For sometime I have been thinking why some nations that their history shows they have indeed had an important and prominent share and role in material and spiritual progress of mankind in various arenas of science, arts, philosophy, literature and politics and were makers of civilization are not allowed to be proud as a nation of their historical accomplishments and play their deserved and constructive role on the global arena. They try to keep the black cloud of humiliation and shame hanging over their heads. And even more regrettably, some of the leaders of such a nation regard this situation befitting them and their nation and try to justify it. This is really an astonishing phenomenon in today’s world. The propaganda machinery after World War II has been so colossal that has caused some people to believe that they are the guilty party by historical accounts and must pay the penalty fort the wrongs committed by their forefathers for successive generations and for indefinite period of time.

    Excellency

    World War II came to an end with all its material and moral losses and its 60 million casualties. The death of human beings is tragic and sad. In all divine religions and before all awakened conscience and pure nature of mankind and the sense of right and wrong, the life, property and honor of people, regardless of their religious persuasion and ethnic background, must be respected at all times and all places.

    Sixty years have passed since the end of the war. But, regrettably the entire world and some nations in particular are still facing its consequences. Even now the conduct of some bullying powers and power-seeking and aggressive groups is the conduct of victors with the vanquished.

    The extortion and blackmail continue, and people are not allowed to think about or even question the source of this extortion, otherwise they face imprisonment. When will this situation end? Sixty years, one hundred years or one thousand years, when? I am sorry to remind you that today the perpetual claimants against the great people of Germany are the bullying powers and the Zionists that founded the Al-Qods Occupying Regime with the force of bayonets in the Middle East.

    The Honorable Chancellor

    I have no intention of arguing about the Holocaust. But, does it not stand to reason that some victorious countries of World War II intended to create an alibi on the basis of which they could continue keeping the defeated nations of World War II indebted to them. Their purpose has been to weaken their morale and their inspiration in order to obstruct their progress and power. In addition to the people of Germany, the peoples of the Middle East have also borne the brunt of the Holocaust. By raising the necessity of settling the survivors of the Holocaust in the land of Palestine, they have created a permanent threat in the Middle East in order to rob the people of the region of the opportunities to achieve progress. The collective conscience of the world is indignant over the daily atrocities by the Zionist occupiers, destruction of homes and farms, killing of children, assassinations and bombardments.

    Excellency, you have seen that the Zionist government does not even tolerate a government elected by the Palestinian people, and over and over again has demonstrated that it recognizes no limit in attacking the neighboring countries.

    The question is why did the victors of the war, especially England that had apparently such a strong sense of responsibility toward the survivors of the Holocaust not allow them to settle in their territory. Why did they force them to migrate to other people’s land by launching a wave of anti-Semitism? Using the excuse for the settlement of the survivors of the Holocaust, they encouraged the Jews worldwide to migrate and today a large part of the inhabitants of the occupied territories are non-European Jews. If tyranny and killing is condemned in one part of the world, can we acquiesce and go along with tyranny, killing, occupation and assassinations in another part of the world simply in order to redress the past wrongs?

    Excellency

    We need to ask ourselves that for what purposes the millions of dollars that the Zionists receive from the treasury of some Western countries are spent for. Are they used for the promotion of peace and the well-being of the people? Or are they used for waging war against Palestinians and the neighboring countries. Are the nuclear arsenals of Israel intended to be used in defense of the survivors of the Holocaust or as a permanent thereat against nations of the region and as an instrument of coercion, and possibly to defend the interests of certain circles of power in the Western countries.

    Regrettably, the influence of the Zionists in the economy, media and some centers of political power has endangered interests of the European nations and has robbed them of many opportunities. The main alibi for this approach is the extortion they exact from the Holocaust.

    One can imagine what standing some European countries could have had and what global role they could have played, if it had not been for this sixty-year old imposition.

    I believe we both share the view that the flourishing of nations and their role are directly related to freedom and sense of pride.

    Fortunately, with all the pressures and limitations, the great nation of Germany has been able to take great strides toward advancement and has become a major economic powerhouse in Europe that also seeks to play a more effective role in international interactions. But just imagine where Germany would be today in terms of its eminence among the freedom-loving nations, Muslims of the world and peoples of Europe, if such a situation did not exist and the governments in power in Germany had said no to the extortions by the Zionists and had not supported the greatest enemy of mankind.

    It is sad to admit that Europe has lost a lot of its clout in global interactions and has not been able to face and overcome major challenges by relying on itself. This is, of course, understandable. The big powers outside of the continent intend to prove that Europe cannot rely on itself and do anything without their help and intervention.

    Our people have also suffered from the interventions by some of the victors of the war after World War II. For many years they interfered in our internal affairs and did not want to see our nation conquer the pinnacles of progress and perfection. They had their eyes on our natural wealth, above all on our energy resources. To secure their own interests, they overthrew the legally constituted government of the time, installed a dictatorial regime and supported it to the end. Later, they supported Saddam in the war imposed on our people and observed no humanitarian boundary in their support for the Iraqi dictator. Our nation has experienced the pain and anguish from the interferences of those who are now crying out for human rights. There are still many suffering from the wounds and injuries of this war.

    Many of these aggressions have taken place by those who regard themselves the victors of the World War II. They allow themselves to do whatever they wish, and unfortunately, after the end of the Cold War, the arrogance and expansionist ambitions of these powers have escalated.

    We believe that still a major part of the peoples of the world and even international organizations are under the influence of the behavior and the conduct of the victors of the World War II.

    I explained the position of the people and government of the Islamic Republic of Iran at the United Nations General Assembly. Is the present state of affairs such as the rules governing the work of the Security Council, especially the right to veto, fair?

    Do you not think that the time has come to change these rules in cooperation with independent governments? These rules are by no means acceptable to the collective conscience of nations and are contrary to the sense of reason and human nature. At least, if we want to be fairer, some other countries of the world should be allowed to benefit from the right to veto.

    Madam Chancellor

    You are familiar with the pains and sufferings currently afflicting our world. Today, the pain and suffering of the people of Iraq that come from occupation, absence of security and daily acts of terrorism are tormenting the entire humanity. Relentless interferences of some bullying powers in the internal affairs of other nations, antagonism toward the inalienable rights of nations to have access to more advanced technologies, subjecting nations to permanent threats by relying on arsenals of chemical and nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction, opposition to popular governments in Latin America, supporting coup d’état and dictatorial regimes, absence of due attention to Africa and taking advantage of the power vacuum there to plunder their wealth are among the problems facing our world today. In my letter to President Bush, I spelled out a long list of contemporary global problems.

    Where are the roots of these problems? How long can they continue? Do you not think that the main root lies in the fact that some of the rulers and powers of today have distanced themselves from the teachings of the divine prophets, the teachings of Abraham, Moses and Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) and the Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him).

    These teachings are in all divine religions that you and I believe:

    · God is the creator of all things and beings. We have all been created free and He has not allowed us to be the servant of anyone other than Him.

    · He has commanded us to worship Him and to avoid all oppressors and tyrants.

    · He has commanded us to be virtuous, to be good to and serve the people, and has directed us to be kind to and defend the oppressed and fight the oppressors.

    · God has given humans dignity and scorns their humiliation.

    · He has sent his messengers with clear reasons, the Book and a balance and has called on his servants to promote justice.

    Based on these shared principles and foundations of our faith, we believe:

    · Peace and tranquility can only be established and endure on the basis of faith in God and justice.

    · Peace and dignity are the rights of all nations.

    · Pursuit of progress and better livelihood combined with spirituality, compassion and well-being is the right of people.

    · You and we can found a new movement to achieve these noble human ideals by relying on these principles and the articles of faith that are common to all divine religions.

    Our nations believe and are committed to these pillars of faith. The history has shown that the people of Iran are not familiar with aggressing and brutalizing other nations. Nevertheless, we do not allow being the subject and victim of aggression and brutality. The experience of the eight-year war clearly demonstrated this fact to the whole world.

    I believe we and you have both been the subject of tyranny. They do not respect your rights and want us also to forego our rights. Fortunately, I have heard that you also speak your mind openly and are against engendering tension and wars.

    Honorable Chancellor,

    The inner instincts and nature of the peoples of the world have wakened up.

    Tendency toward faith in the oneness of God is on the rise.

    People will no longer tolerate to be tyrannized, humiliated and their rights violated.

    The prevailing circumstances today differ from those of yesterday. Multiple standards and approaches in relations will not endure.

    Iran and Germany can play a more important role together in the international arena by relying on the noble and high values.

    This cooperative relationship can also enhance the role of Europe on the global scene and serve as a model of cooperation between two governments and nations.

    Without doubt, cooperation of two peace-loving, powerful and cultured nations of Germany and Iran will serve the interests of Europe as well. Together we must end the present abnormalities in international relations, the type of order and relations that are based on the impositions of the victors of the World War II on the defeated nations. Nations and many governments will be on our side on this path.

    We must make the shadow of World War II disappear and help the international community to promote security, freedom and sense of tranquility.

    The people of Iran and Germany are two great nations that have contributed to the making of our civilization. They have rich culture and have been in the forefront of science, literature, arts and philosophy. Both of our people have a strong faith in God and follow the teachings of divine prophets. They have also had long-lasting scientific, cultural and commercial relations and share many valuable mutual interests.

    I have no doubt that with the cooperation of the two governments and the support of the two great nations we can take great strides forward in alleviating the problems and abnormalities of our world today.

    Daring and courageous decisions are the key to our success in overcoming the existing problems, countering the violations of rights and defending the rights of nations.

    To the extent that I know of the people of Germany, they will come along and join us and want restore their dignity and influence for the sake of global peace and calm. Our people have the similar spirit.

    Together we will be able to prove to some powers that respecting other nations and their rights is good for them as well. Our two nations and governments, next to each other, will be able to play a fundamental role in promoting peace, security, progress, and human dignity at the scale of two countries and internationally.

    In closing, I pray to the Almighty for the success of Your Excellency and the government and people of Germany.

  157. 471

    Yes, Clueless Nuts. Aren’t those hanging from libruls as the visit Carl’s old homestead the whorehouse?

  158. 472

    Jaybo: Anti-neo-cons are the libruls on Moonbats oops… … … ASSes. They and Whackmanijab walk to the same drummer!

  159. 473

    Whackmanijab: I like that name MWS. Reminds me of Cluelessness. Both whack jobs!

  160. 474

    I’ll spell it out for you guys since you’re a bit slow.

    Nuts like

    W O S and

    P U D D Y B U D

  163. 477

    Did the breathalyzer experiments at Drinking Liberallyiesies go on to test all the Libs….Hic that were leaving the places on Tuesday night, and then…Hic…were they all Like Senator Ted Kennedy driving home…Hic?…drunk on their asses….I sure hope none of them were driving with a lady like ole married Ted had….Hic drivin Home..Hic.for she would be in pure ass danger…hic and the Horsesass drinkin hipocrits on their way home would not be of much help in an emergency….hic….Kinda hard to be Drinking liberally when you are tied to ole Ted kennedy eh….Hic. Try not to kill some woman on your way home this evening…hic………………………………………….

    erp……blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack

    Hipocrits!

  164. 478

    GS, Might I suggest spell check in the future. You might be able to hide some of your ignorance.

    Carl Grossman
    Liberal, Democrat and just pointing out the trailer trash from the RightWingNut side of the world.

  165. 479

    Please, someone explain to me what happens in the mind of RightWingNut that satire, humor and common sense just pass right over/by them?

    Note to Pussypud: Your momma still swimming out to troop ships?

    Nuff SAID!!!!!!!!

  166. 480

    GS, Might I suggest spell check in the future.
    Carl Grossman
    […………………………………….Carl, “Pot calling kettle?” hehe, JCH………….Great night, Mrs. Grossman!]

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. I’m looking forward to a cool Manny’s and some crisp conversation.

Washington liberals will also be drinking tonight in Vancouver and the Tri-Cities. Here’s a full run down of WA’s ten Drinking Liberally chapters:

Where: When: Next Meeting:
Burien: Mick Kelly’s Irish Pub, 435 SW 152nd St Fourth Wednesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward August 23
Kirkland: Valhalla Bar & Grill, 8544 122nd Ave NE Every Thursday, 7:00 pm onward August 24
Monroe: Eddie’s Trackside Bar and Grill, 214 N Lewis St Second Wednesday of each month, 7:00 PM onward September 13
Olympia: The Tumwater Valley Bar and Grill, 4611 Tumwater Valley Drive South First and third Monday of each month, 7:00-9:00 pm September 4
Seattle: Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Ave E Every Tuesday, 8:00 pm onward August 22
Spokane: Red Lion BBQ & Pub, 126 N Division St Every Wednesday, 7:00 pm August 23
Tacoma: Meconi’s Pub, 709 Pacific Ave Every Wednesday, 8:00 pm onward August 23
Tri-Cities: Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd, Richland Every Tuesday, 7:00 pm onward August 22
Vancouver: Hazel Dell Brew Pub, 8513 NE Highway 99 Second and fourth Tuesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward August 22
Walla Walla: The Green Lantern, 1606 E Isaacs Ave First Friday of each month, 8:00 pm onward September 1

Comments

  2. 483

    Good God! No wonder the libs are nutburgers… they’re a bunch of raving DRUNKS.

  4. 485

    Hey, I just got banned at the conservative Ace of Spades HQ (http://ace.mu.nu/), and they won’t tell me what for. I seriously don’t know, other than that I was being a royal pain in Ace’s ass for calling him on his biased wingnuttery (but in a respectful way, of course).

    I hate to give him the traffic, but go give this guy hell. As far as I can tell they banned me because they don’t like hearing the other side of the story.

  5. 486

    Nah, I don’t hate anyone…such an uproductive feeling… I would use these descriptives: amused, pitying, scorn, delight in mocking, incredulous at rank stupidity, scoffing, dismissive… but never hate.

  7. 488

    Mrs. Rabbit says JCH “must be going stir crazy on his little island.”

    Commentby Roger Rabbit [……………………………………………Dear Mrs. Rabbit, “Little island”? This island is the size of the state of CONN! We have surf, SCUBA, volcanos, Snow boarding om Mauna Kea, and the International Championship Bill Fishing Finals [“grander” blue marlins]. Neil Young lives here. Clint has a place on the island, and Miss Winfrey owns a shit load of land. So does the drummer from “U2″. Plus every eatery and “Hard Rock” bars and “discos”. We even have fish with large, funny noses that like like Carl Grossman!!!

  8. 489

    By the way, I was in Honolulu for an overnight on a business trip last month. Two blocks away from Waikiki beach, $90.00 USD per night.
    Commentby rhp6033 [………Er, rhp6033, Kapalua, Maui is not a POS Waikiki hotel. The New Orleans Levve “MoFo” Board is spending a shit load for a deluxe first class “junket” in Maui. Playing “The Plantation” golf course, “lounging” at “The Spa”, drinking and dining at “The Ritz, Kapalua”, and paying for the whole “get down mother fucker trip” with a “guvment” credit card. Now, about those homeless in the 9th ward??????? Get it???]

  9. 490

    CHATTANOOGA — A federal grand jury charged Tennessee state Sen. Jerry Cooper with bank fraud, mail fraud and conspiracy today in an indictment that says Cooper was “deep in debt and trying to avoid bankruptcy.” Neither Cooper, D-Morrison, nor his attorney, Jerry Summers of Chattanooga, responded to telephone messages seeking comment. Cooper had been identified as an unindicted co-conspirator in a lending scheme involving the 1999 sale of his lumber mill in Warren County.

    The guy who wrote this [Bill] won’t have a job with AP for long if he continues to list up-front (not bury in the middle of the story) the DEMOCRAT affiliation of those in trouble.

  10. 491

    The Louisiana Democratic Congressman caught on FBI surveillance tapes taking $90,000 in cash has been selected by the Democratic Congressional caucus to lead a delegation from Capitol Hill on a tour of New Orleans next week to “join in prayer with the people of the region, to reflect and remember.” Jefferson has denied any wrongdoing in a case that sparked controversy when the FBI searched his Capitol Hill offices.

    “Over here’s the French Quarter. I got my first Democrat bribe there as a little boy.

    Now we’re in the 9th ward. See this busted dam; I got a big haul from the cement contractor. Well, it was actually my Democrat brother-in-law who dropped a load a mud and called it cement.

    And here’s where the appliance store was that sold me my freezer. It has a big freezer!!

    Next stop … the airport, where I picked up all those Nigeria bigwigs and their suitcases of cash.”

  11. 492

    So, Larry,

    Can you feel the love tonight?
    The peace the evening brings
    The world, for once, in perfect harmony
    With all its living things

    [/LMAO]

    A Little Late-Afternoon Banning
    – Ace
    Larry the Urbanite is gone, not for some rinky-dink reason, but for such an utterly anti-American, pro-terrorist douchemove that I just refuse to tolerate him any longer on the site.

    Someone did some googling and came up with a lot of bullshit by him, none of which especially bothered me, except for one little thing he did that was positively anti-American– just to somehow “annoy” me, a frickin’ midlevel blogger no one’s ever heard of.

    I’d say who that someone was, but I don’t know if he’s proud of his work or would rather it be kept on the downlow.

    In any event, goodbye, Larry. As you seem to frequently call for the banning of rightwing “trolls” on leftwing sites, I’m sure you can have no complaint about this.

    (And no–that’s not the reason I’m banning him. I could give a fig about silly hypocrisy like that from a leftie. It’s their stock in trade.)

    Comments: A Little Late-Afternoon Banning:

    I will miss him. He was like the energizer bunny of contrarianism. No matter how many beatdowns he endured he came back for more. Ego Invictus.

    Tob
    Posted by Toby928 at August 22, 2006 03:40 PM

    ***

    Well, I have to say I’m curious as to why he was banned. But I can’t honestly say I regret it.
    Posted by Rocketeer at August 22, 2006 03:43 PM

    ***

    Damn, now that Larry is gone, who will criticize my spelling while ignoring the substance of my remarks?

    Larry will be missed, like I miss that big ol’ boil I popped on my ass.
    Posted by Mr Minority at August 22, 2006 03:43 PM

    ***

    he was a sneaky one. there were several times where i thought to myself, “y’know, this guy’s actually acting in good faith… i even agree with some of what he’s saying…”

    he didn’t strike me as any worse than any of the other trolls. but i guess ace had to make a command decision.

    “it is good that war should be so terrible, else we grow too fond of it…”

    something like that, anyway
    Posted by jdubious at August 22, 2006 03:44 PM

    ***

    sheesh. ignore last comment as i fragged it pasting over.
    Posted by jdubious at August 22, 2006 03:45 PM

    ***

    Ace, are you talking about the “Omar Shariff’s bridge book? Your game will explode” comment? Yeah, pretty lame.
    Posted by Tushar D at August 22, 2006 03:45 PM

    ***

    I’m not the detective in this story, but I’ll just say my complete disdain for Larry was the shit he posted elsewhere. He tried hard to sound reasonable here. He was a liar.

    I don’t like liars.

    Or mushy broccoli. I really hate that shit.
    Posted by Dave in Texas at August 22, 2006 03:46 PM

    ***

    You are going to break sandy burger’s heart.
    Posted by shawn at August 22, 2006 03:47 PM

    ***

    sandy burger’s heart belongs to Condi.
    Posted by Tushar D at August 22, 2006 03:48 PM

    ***

    I was going to write a short faux essay on the merits of having Larry around, how he helped us sharpen and improve our arguments and ideas through well-meaning and thoughtful criticism. Then I realized none of that ever actually happened, as the guy was more-or-less lacking in both meaning and thoughtfulness.

    So I say, nay, I grin: good riddance.
    Posted by leoncaruther at August 22, 2006 03:48 PM

    ***

    TusharD,

    I don’t want to say because I don’t want the little bitch doing any further bullshit.
    Posted by ace at August 22, 2006 03:48 PM

    ***

    Let me be the first to question the timing
    Posted by Rob G at August 22, 2006 03:49 PM

    ***

    Rob G, It is 4:49 on the East Coast ….. Oh, you are questioning the timing… never mind
    Posted by Tushar D at August 22, 2006 03:49 PM

    ***

    I googled Larry the U, and I got a bunch of links for Larry Niven, who made out with bbeck.

    I have no point with this post. I’m just annoyed I wasn’t able to question the timing first.
    Posted by The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at August 22, 2006 03:52 PM

    ***

    Damn it! I go out of town for a few days, and everything goes to hell in a handbasket. Figures.

    Now where the hell has von Kreedon been these days?
    Posted by sandy burger at August 22, 2006 03:54 PM

    ***

    But realize, this will just give Larry more time to do “engineering”.

    God help us all.
    Posted by AxL at August 22, 2006 03:59 PM

    ***

    (quickly takes down 185-chapter Ace/Powers Boothe slash fiction e-novel site)
    Posted by Tom at August 22, 2006 03:59 PM

    ***

    it’s never too late to

    question the timing.

    oder, auf deutsch, fragen Sie uber den Zeitung

    or,

    timing-p
    Posted by jdubious at August 22, 2006 04:00 PM

    ***

    HA! HA! Larry the Urbanite loses at teh interweb! You fail at life Larry!

    Good riddence to bad rubbish. Question, Ace…think he’ll take up the sword of Tardacus and try to unleash a futile uprising of libtard trolls? or is he not that popular among the DU Shortbus crew?
    Posted by DF at August 22, 2006 04:08 PM

    ***

    Come on…give us some details. What did he say? My life is so empty, toss me a bone.
    Posted by JackStraw at August 22, 2006 04:09 PM

    ***

    I’ve moved!

    .just kidding.
    Posted by Larry the Suburbanite at August 22, 2006 04:11 PM

    ***

    I’ve always wondered what these douchebag trolls did before the Internet Tubes gave them a way to vent their madness upon the unwary. I suppose lots of them were street-preachers, steetsign taggers, or those “letter to the editor” recluses who blamed the moral turpitude of America’s youth on fluoridation of the water.

    Still, I’ve never found web forums to be one-tenth as wacky and filled with bile as some USENET groups got. Some people there were Frisch-crazy. There was even a newsgroup dedicated to making fun of these people: alt.usenet.kooks. Part of the reason USENET faded back into obscurity was the fact that it was pretty hard to ban such people without some pretty draconian (and time-consuming) moderation.
    Posted by Monty at August 22, 2006 04:12 PM

    ***

    Gee. What a shame.
    Posted by Dan Collins at August 22, 2006 04:14 PM

    ***

    Well, I’m certainly not one of ace’s regular commenters but I’ve definitely killed some time with you morons and I greet this news with a hale, “Good Day, Sir!”
    Posted by kelly at August 22, 2006 04:22 PM

    ***

    Awww, I didn’t get a chance to say goodbye fuck you.
    Posted by Bart at August 22, 2006 04:23 PM

    ***

    Y’know, some of the regret expressed here doesn’t seem entirely…sincere, somehow.

    /resume lurk status
    Posted by BrendaK at August 22, 2006 04:25 PM

    ***

    I sense the hand of Karl Rove in this. It’s to distract us from… uh… whatever it was. That thing. Or maybe that other thing I forget. Anyway, it’s all Rove’s fault.
    Posted by Trimegistus at August 22, 2006 04:25 PM

    ***

    Finally.

    That guy was a real asshole.
    Posted by Cedarford at August 22, 2006 04:26 PM

    ***

    Wow – that’s some pretty low stuff, even from Larry. First he admits that he’s a troll, and then goes off along the lines Tushar mentioned. He was never very smart, but I thought he was sincere. Turns out he was concentrated evil.
    Posted by geoff at August 22, 2006 04:28 PM

    ***

    It’s funny, I was just thinking today about how much better conservatives were, because Ace put up w/LtU.

    But if I continue on with this theory, it would mean we have to get another troll.
    Posted by Dogstar at August 22, 2006 04:32 PM

    ***

    Awww, I didn’t get a chance to say goodbye fuck you.

    Sorry to hear that, Bart.

    Rule number 17 from the Blog Etiquette Handbook is to never miss a chance to tell a troll “fuck you.”

    It may be your last.
    Posted by kelly at August 22, 2006 04:35 PM

    ***

    hmmmm, I posited that idea as a ‘thinking out loud’ notion and had no problem with ace deleting the comment.

    That ‘Sh-rif’ thing was more of a thought experiment on how the Left tends to miss the point- they tend to be better as reactive protesters than effective saboteurs.

    Larry doesn’t/didn’t actually think about anything.
    Posted by BumperStickerist at August 22, 2006 04:38 PM

    ***

    I’m wonderin’ what the BFD was, though.

    I think Larry’s underlying issue was that he wasn’t as off-the-wall hilarious as, say, Proud Liberal Vet was. When PLV was here we had Antarctica Now! and haiku insult threads.

    Good times, good times.

    Now, in the Urbanite timeline, its just stale pants-wetting jokes.

    Also, then: the Paul Anka Integrity Kick
    Now: Laughing at some Mary Paisley Pretzlefuck chick cause she’s retarded.

    Then: Donald Trump reviewing candidacies on the Apprentice.
    Now: 7 sided dice. For the love of God, frikkin’ DICE.

    I’m looking forward to the post-Larry-the-Urbanite AoSHQ.
    Posted by The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at August 22, 2006 04:42 PM

    ***

    I kinda hope we get a new troll. Larry wasn’t the kinda troll that you laughed at, like as someone else suggested Proud Liberal Vet. When I see Larry posted, I skip over it to see the response. PLV was the type of guy that you read and laughed at the pure ignorance and sstupidity of the post itself, then see everyone tear him apart and laugh even harder. Its better that way.

    Maybe Larry will send some new trolls to avenge his banning, most leave, and a few choice idiots will stay.
    Posted by DF at August 22, 2006 04:50 PM

    ***

    But realize, this will just give Larry more time to do “engineering”.
    AxL at August 22, 2006 03:59 PM (DC1Zk)

    ***

    I wouldn’t stress too much about The Uberpenis’s
    “engineering”….. Remember, he is an “engineer” who
    doesn’t need math, so how could he design anything of importance.

    I don’t think I’ll miss him much, besides, it was time to change the troll in here anyway.
    Posted by A. Weasel at August 22, 2006 04:51 PM

    ***

    Larry can now join plv, mike, downtown lad, and cedarford for weekly “i hate ace” meetings
    Posted by Johann Sebastian Bach at August 22, 2006 04:52 PM

    ***

    Monty,

    I must disagree. Usenet perfected kook disposal in the most eminently democratic way possible: the plonk file.

    Although there’s something to be said for setting the followup-to: header to something randomly inappropriate as an alternative. Dropping a troll’s witty riposte into alt.personals.motss is always good for a cheap laugh.
    Posted by apotheosis at August 22, 2006 04:54 PM

    ***

    All your Larry the U are belong to us.
    Posted by mesablue at August 22, 2006 04:56 PM

    ***

    how he helped us sharpen and improve our arguments and ideas through well-meaning and thoughtful criticism.

    He certainly help to sharpen our invective. I had never seen both Butt Plug and Sanitary Knapkin used in the same sentence before.

    Tob
    Posted by Toby928 at August 22, 2006 05:00 PM

    ***

    But if I continue on with this theory, it would mean we have to get another troll.

    Kman is auditioning on the other thread.

    Tob
    Posted by Toby928 at August 22, 2006 05:02 PM
    ***

    Rule number 17

    Bart, don’t worry about it dude. I said “fuck you” to Larry enough for both of us.
    Posted by Dave in Texas at August 22, 2006 05:04 PM

    ***

    I don’t know what he did to get banned, but I think it’s a pity. The boy had potential. He had it in him to be a useful alternative viewpoint, but I guess he had issues which got in the way of that.
    Posted by sandy burger at August 22, 2006 05:05 PM

    ***

    Hasn’t Ryan already been auditioning to be his replacement?
    Posted by someone at August 22, 2006 05:09 PM

    ***

    I barely recognize the name. Either I’m not paying attention, or he just wasn’t impressive as a troll.
    Posted by digitalbrownshirt at August 22, 2006 05:10 PM

    ***

    Larry the U once praised me in a thread as the only one who had any idea of what he was talking about.

    I felt so dirty I refrained from commenting at Ace Of Spades for two weeks.
    Posted by Jeff B. at August 22, 2006 05:15 PM

    ***

    You jush wait! I’ll be back and I’ll kick all yer asshes!
    Posted by Larry the Bourbonite at August 22, 2006 05:15 PM
    ***

    I had never seen both Butt Plug and Sanitary Knapkin used in the same sentence before.

    Youve obviously never spent Thanksgiving with my family.

    Anyways, I Googled Larry when he first popped up months ago and found another blog that he posted at.

    I didnt read any of the blog posts therr – I just jumped into the comments to see what Larry was up to. I figured it was another conservative blog that Larry was trolling at, but I was wrong. It took me a while to figure it out because their was this guy calling himself Bugs Bunny or Bunny Boy or something who I thought was doing some incredibly funny Liberal Talking Points riff.

    Then I realized it was a liberal blog and this Bunny dude was being serious. Apparently he’s a regular commenter there. Entire comment threads are nothing but his crazed rantings.

    I swear to god, If Spurwing ever fucked Proud Liberal Vet their baby/hatchling would be this guy.

    You should send this guy an open invitation Ace.

    Oh, and heres some more good news:

    New study shows Herpes cases Declining

    This is funny so im going to continue to plost links to it until someone agrees with me.
    Posted by Run Amish Run at August 22, 2006 05:17 PM

    ***

    Amish,

    I commented on it a few threads ago. It’s hilarious.

    “I’ve done this many times.”

    “You be the Joker.”
    Posted by mesablue at August 22, 2006 05:20 PM

    ***

    We’ve got these little news screens in the elevators in our office. One common feature is, “Yahoo! searches for testosterone were up 767% following bike doping scandal.”

    I fully expect tomorrow’s blurb to read, “Yahoo! searches for Larry the Urbanite skyrocketed after link scandal at Ace of Spades blog.”
    Posted by KM at August 22, 2006 05:20 PM

    ***

    “Shields”

    Hahahahaha!
    Posted by mesablue at August 22, 2006 05:24 PM

    ***

    Amish, was that guy calling himself Roger Rabbit? I think I just saw the thread.

    The poor fool could hardly string two thoughts together, but there he was, triple and quadruple posting just pure utter stream of consciousness nonsense.

    Larry would still probably “play the Joker for him,” though.
    Posted by Sortelli at August 22, 2006 05:26 PM

    ***

    Amish’s link has messed my fragile little mind up. “You be The Joker.”
    Posted by Jeff B. at August 22, 2006 05:29 PM

    ***

    Larry said something anti-American??? Whoa, good thing I was sitting down.

    A troll is a troll is a troll, folks. OBVIOUSLY his “reasonable” exterior was a facade; frequenting a site where you’re universally ridiculed is not indicative of a hinged person. They always always say they’re there to hear the other side’s POV (Uh, you don’t have to POST for that), but they’re actually only there to get wood from stirring $hit and getting smacked down. They…are…all…the….same. No exceptions ever.

    Good riddance to bad baggage. I strongly approve of Ace’s recent housecleaning.
    Posted by bbeck at August 22, 2006 05:38 PM

    ***

    Good riddance to bad baggage. I strongly approve of Ace’s recent housecleaning.
    Posted by bbeck at August 22, 2006 05:38 PM

    Wow. I didn’t see that coming at all.
    Posted by JackStraw at August 22, 2006 05:42 PM

    ***

    I disagree with the ‘a troll is a troll’ sentiment. Some trolls are just so out of control insane that they are a laugh riot.

    If we can’t get that Buster Bunny or Roger Rabbit guy here, then we should try to recruit that bonehead Ranger-wannabe. Just because the psychosis is just so amusing in a Dali-esque way.
    Posted by The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at August 22, 2006 05:47 PM

    ***

    Can we get a Top 10 Things we don’t have to do now that Larry the F’n U is gone?

    #10 No more spell checking fine substantive posts
    #9 No more fact checking the fact checking, which was done to, in fact, check the facts
    #8 No more thinking that there is such a thing as a _reasonable_ troll.
    Posted by John at August 22, 2006 05:49 PM

    ***

    LOL @ Jack. Well, at least you won’t have to keep reasoning with him anymore.

    Some trolls are just so out of control insane that they are a laugh riot.

    Kinda the point; they are ALL insane. A few are just dishonest about it.
    Posted by bbeck at August 22, 2006 05:49 PM

    ***

    Finally.

    That guy was a real asshole.
    Posted by Cedarford at August 22, 2006 04:26 PM

    Oh, goddamn, that was funny.

    Old school baby. Who was that? Kudos.
    Posted by hobgoblin at August 22, 2006 06:10 PM

    ***

    True, bbeck. I was laughing reading JeffB’s comment about Larry calling him reasonable and how dirty it made him feel. He did it to me last night and it made me want to gouge my eyes out with a salad fork.

    I was guilty of appeasment. I feel so French.

    Posted by JackStraw at August 22, 2006 06:14 PM

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    Hey, I just got banned at the conservative Ace of Spades HQ, and they won’t tell me what for.

    Based on what the hateful one (or is that one of the many hatefuls?) just posted, he won’t tell his own readers either.

    Don’t take it too hard; Ace has been the butt of quite a few jokes over at Sadly,No! and TBogg. You’re not missing much.

  14. 495

    From the garbage proudASS posted above, it appears to be this post from January — another Drinking Liberally thread:

    Hey, I was just over at Ace of Spades HQ (trolling, anyone?) and he deleted a post because he thought it would give the liberals “ideas”. So I’ll repeat it here.

    In your phone conversations, say: “Have you read Omar SHariff’s book on bridge? Your game will explode.”

    See it has an arab sounding name, “bridge” and “explode” in it, but is really innocuous. That will give the NSA fits.

    Spread widely to all liberal blogs. I have no idea if it’ll work, but it’ll sure piss Ace off, fascist censorer that he is.

    Commentby Larry the Urbanite— 1/10/06@ 4:00 pm

    If Ace thinks that’s “such an utterly anti-American, pro-terrorist douchemove”, he should look at the awful stuff posted here by, take your pick, JCH, MTR, proudASS herself, etc.

  15. 496

    What, the Green Lantern! It’s infested with Whitties! When I was there no one could tell me where the Democratic Caucus was!

  17. 498

    JCH,

    C’moooooon stop with the William Jefferson schtick. Normally, I wouldn’t tell a conservative to stop embarassing themselves, but holy shit, dude, you’re getting out there. Even for a lying conservative.

    PS: Why, oh why, did you ever lie about your military service?

  18. 499

    Unless you ARE Larry (who claims not to know why he was banned) or you are Ace who did the banning, you have no flippin idea what you’re talking about… as usual.

    Good God, when the hell are you stupid liberals going to learn to shut the hell up when you haven’t a clue?

    Thank God, you are you’re own worst enemies.

  19. 500

    Too bad we can’t get some of these cowardly righties to show up at an event. I wonder how tough they’d be when not hiding behind a keyboard? No I don’t. I know they’d wimper like little girls and beg for mercy.

  20. 501

    @ 18:

    You know what’s happening on “K” street in DC, don’t you?

    Baaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa

    Let’s just say the insider “smart” money ain’t betting on the Republicans!!

    “Our own worst enemies.” That’s a hoot considering all the felons that are in the Republican party. Oh, and the incompetent “eviler” in the White House.

    Yeah, I bet the Marines just love having “involuntary” recalls from the ready reserves just to serve in Bush’s mismanaged war in Iraq. Because now there are not enough volunteers serving in the Corp who want to serve in Iraq.

    Smooth move Exlax.

  22. 503

    18.

    “… look at the awful stuff posted here by, take your pick, JCH, MTR, proudASS herself, etc.” (quoting myself).

    quod erat demonstrandum

  23. 504

    Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem

  24. 505

    PROUDtobeINCOHERENT @ 5
    The inability to have feelings is not something of which you should be proud. Indeed, the mental health types characterize people who don’t have feelings as sociopaths. (I’m not using the DSM-IV term.) Actually, many people of your political persuasion are that way because they are unable to feel empathy for others; they are sociopaths. Congratulations. You lack a fundamental human attribute.

  25. 506

    Nice try for an amateur armchair psycho, sweetcheeks.

    1. I never claimed the ” inability to have feelings” so I call bullshit in THAT little gem.

    2. You haven’t a clue of what I am or am not “proud”, so I call bullshit on gem #2… altho I most certainly would never be proud to name myself a liberal.

    3. Your ability to generalize those with whom you disagree is superior only to your idiocy, so I call bullshit on gem #3.

    4. Claiming to be a “proud” leftist is an oxymoron (aren’t you one of the ‘humble for the masses’ crowd?) so I call bullshit on gem #4.

  26. 507

    I ain’t no amateur, m’lady. There are a couple of trolls who post here with whom I’d like to sit down and have a beer or two. You ain’t one of them. Cold-assed people are just a waste of time.

  27. 508

    Cold-assed people are just a waste of time.

    Commentby proud leftist [….Then why are you still with Mrs. Grossman??]

  28. 509

    Proving to be incoherent in another language, the proudASS explodes in a mass of irrational spew.

    Life is tough for those who have wasted their youth sucking the teat of the right wing myth machine.

  29. 510

    The Louisiana Democratic Congressman caught on FBI surveillance tapes taking $90,000 in cash has been selected by the Democratic Congressional caucus to lead a delegation from Capitol Hill on a tour of New Orleans next week to “join in prayer with the people of the region, to reflect and remember.” Jefferson has denied any wrongdoing in a case that sparked controversy when the FBI searched his Capitol Hill offices.

    “Over here’s the French Quarter. I got my first Democrat bribe there as a little boy.

    Now we’re in the 9th ward. See this busted dam; I got a big haul from the cement contractor. Well, it was actually my Democrat brother-in-law who dropped a load a mud and called it cement.

    And here’s where the appliance store was that sold me my freezer. It has a big freezer!!

    Next stop … the airport, where I picked up all those Nigeria bigwigs and their suitcases of cash.”

  30. 511

    Fernando Egurrola-Gutierrez, a 26-year-old resident of Mexico, was arrested Saturday night after Police responded to reports of a home invasion.

    Latest News more>>

    Man arrested during sexual assault

    Off-duty cop shot while mountain biking, condition critical

    Arizona legislators aim to reduce Liberal bias in university classes

    Microburst snaps off large billboard

    Pit bull bites boy

    How to avoid killer bee home invasions

    UA students shell out big bucks for textbooks

    Tucson Police say a dangerous man is off the streets and locked up in County Jail.
    Fernando Egurrola-Gutierrez, a 26-year-old resident of Mexico, was arrested Saturday night after Police responded to reports of a home invasion.

    Police arrived on the scene about two minutes after getting the call.

    When they got there they say Gutierrez was on top of the female victim.

    Sergeant Decio Hopffer told News 4, “We had to go hands-on with him. He did not immediately comply with our demands so we had to go hands-on to detain him.”

    After booking Gutierrez, Police say they found solid evidence linking him to another attempted sexual assault in the same area.

    On July 16, a man fitting the same description as Gutierrez pulled a gun on two hair stylists at the Supercuts salon about two blocks away.

    In that case, the attacker locked one of the women in a bathroom and attempted to assault her sexually.

    The second stylist got away and when she left the building the opening door sounded a bell which spooked the attacker who took off running.

    Police believe that man was Gutierrez and they say he was getting more brazen.

    “He forced himself inside a bedroom before attempting sexual assault so he was getting more violent, more aggressive. There is no doubt in my mind that he would strike again,” said Sgt. Hopffer.

    Gutierrez was booked into the Pima County Jail on several charges including attempted sexual assault, kidnapping, armed robbery, aggravated assault and burglary. [……………………………..Just another “Democrat to be” illegal doing the crimes that American welfare hack Democrats are to lazy to do!! Regardless, as an illegal felon, he will be voting Democrat in NOV!!!!!]

  31. 512

    Roger Rabbit rarely appears at DL, but wingnuts never do, the fucking cowards. Buhk-cluck-cluck buhk-cluck-cluck …

  33. 514

    4

    “Larry the Urbanite is gone, not for some rinky-dink reason, but for such an utterly anti-American, pro-terrorist douchemove that I just refuse to tolerate him any longer on the site.

    Someone did some googling and came up with a lot of bullshit by him … one … thing he did that was positively anti-American– just to somehow ‘annoy’ me, a frickin’ midlevel blogger no one’s ever heard of … goodbye, Larry. …”

    The above tripe is quoted under the Fair Use doctrine, and if Ace doesn’t like it, he can

    [ ] a. sue me
    [ ] b. fuck himself
    [ ] c. then fuck his armadillo
    [ ] d. or all of the above

    To read his entire diatribe and/or find out whether he copyrights his crappy little web site, although I can’t imagine why as who in their right mind would plagiarize him … see http://ace.mu.nu/

    Okay, now for Roger Rabbit’s response. CONGRATULATIONS, LARRY! Getting tossed off a rightwing blog is always an honor of which you may be justly proud. Those thin-skinned pigfuckers just can’t tolerate disagreement! They take their cues from Bush in that regard. But I digress.

    I don’t have much to say about Ace. I’d say it on his web site, but then he’d backtrack it and try to find my burrow, and pump carbon monoxide into it. All I’ll say about Ace is this.

    Ace, if you think you’re a frickin’ midlevel blogger no one’s ever heard of, you have a grossly inflated opinion of both yourself and your importance.

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    5

    Ass — It’s never good to hate yourself, but your other feelings about yourself are entirely appropriate.

  35. 516

    “Miss Winfrey owns a shit load of land” Commentby Doctor JCH Kennedy— 8/22/06@ 3:53 pm

    Makes your paltry .03 acre seem pathetic, doesn’t it?

  36. 517

    8

    “By the way, I was in Honolulu for an overnight on a business trip last month. Two blocks away from Waikiki beach, $90.00 USD per night.” Commentby Doctor JCH Kennedy— 8/22/06@ 4:01 pm

    60 feet from Green Lake beach, 365 nights a year, $0.00 USD.

  37. 518

    11

    “… I miss that big ol’ boil I popped on my ass.” Posted by Mr Minority at August 22, 2006 03:43 PM

    Yes, a redneck wingnut WOULD have a big ol’ boil on his ass, wouldn’t he? Comes from sitting on it all of his 35 years, 5 months, and 11 days on this earth.

  38. 519

    11

    “… Larry … tried hard to sound reasonable … I don’t like … mushy broccoli. I really hate that shit.”
    Posted by Dave in Texas at August 22, 2006 03:46 PM

    Hey Dave, come to HorsesAss, problem solved! No mushy broccoli here! You’ll meet the REAL energizer bunny AND you’ll get your unpatriotic, America-hating, syphilitc, fascist butt kicked to your heart’s content!

  39. 520

    17

    Hey GBS tell me the story AGAIN about how that little pervert hiding in the bushes with binoculars LIED about his military service! I NEVER get tired of THAT story!

  40. 521

    39

    Rabbits see everything that goes on in the bushes! My cousin in Hawaii wrote me about it.

  41. 522

    18

    “Unless you ARE Larry (who claims not to know why he was banned) or you are Ace who did the banning, you have no flippin idea what you’re talking about” Commentby howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedy— 8/22/06@ 5:15 pm

    Why is that a problem? You post here all the time with no flippin idea what YOU’RE talking about! Why should wingnuts have a monopoly on that? Republicans want a monopoly on every fucking thing.

  43. 524

    25(2) (continued)

    If you got a problem with that, go cry on your armadillo’s shoulder — then fuck her

  44. 525

    GBS THE PISS ANT WELL YOU HAVE NO WORRIES THEY DONT RECALL MISFITS WHO CANT HOLD THE BEER.AND GET THE BOOT LOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSER

  45. 526

    “Yo” is a mispelling of “Y’o” (as in “yahoo”) … like most pigfuckers, Y’o can’t spell his own name.

  46. 527

    ASS@32 All you’ve done is establish that you hang around freeper sites. I’d say, ‘Same to ya!’ but you never had a mother. . .you’re more like a motile slime mold that hatched in the back of an untended refrigerator and crawled out. . . . .

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    Furball, you are famous at Aces too!

    Amish, was that guy calling himself Roger Rabbit? I think I just saw the thread. The poor fool could hardly string two thoughts together, but there he was, triple and quadruple posting just pure utter stream of consciousness nonsense.

    You see Furball, I and a few others have the same thing to say about your shingle line vomits or “carrot bile”. This is the most laughter I’ve enjoyed since LostHisTurdLeftHisBrainBehind aka LeftMyTurdBehindLostMyBrain started posting here.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. I’m told that Port Commissioner Lloyd Hara will be joining us tonight. Mmm. I love port.

And if you happen to be a liberal drinker on the other side of the mountains, the Tri-Cities chapter of DL also meets Tuesday nights, 7 PM, Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd., in Richland. Go ask Jimmy for more details.

Comments

  2. 533

    Have fun, guys. Remember which one of you is the designated driver.

    “I’m the designated driver??? I thought YOU were the designated driver! (hic!)”.

  3. 534

    Thank God the feds are spending dwindling resources fighting terrorism! Down with caffeine plants!!!! Well, at least the feds aren’t tearing apart the Somali grocery stores anymore, based on paranoid Sharkansky-style post 9-11 Fear Factor politics….we all know how successful that Big Brother operation was…

    14 arrests upset local Somalis

    The bust, which netted 44 alleged khat sellers nationwide, came after an 18-month DEA investigation that targeted mostly immigrant communities in Seattle, along with other cities with sizable Somali populations, including Minneapolis; New York; Columbus, Ohio; and Boston.

    The sting involved months of extensive interviews with members of the Somali community and their neighbors as well as phone taps, according to the DEA. Over the course of the investigation, DEA agents said, 25 tons of khat — worth about $10 million — was illegally imported for use by Somali immigrants.

    The DEA said an international network used human smugglers and commercial shippers to transport khat from its native habitat in Africa to the U.S. Now, the 14 arrested in the Seattle bust are waiting for trials that could last years. If convicted under the felony drug-trafficking charges brought against them, they could face decades in federal prison.
    –
    Parts of the khat or qat (pronounced “cot”) shrub have been used for centuries as a mild stimulant in countries like Somalia and Yemen, where users compare the effect of chewing on the fresh plant to drinking a strong cup of caffeinated coffee.

    For the mostly Muslim populations of those nations, alcohol use is a religious taboo. Instead of drinking, many will chew on khat, kick back with friends and family, and talk.

    But here in the U.S., khat’s two active chemicals, cathine and cathonine, are scheduled, controlled substances, making them illegal to possess and consume — and the DEA doesn’t make cultural exceptions in enforcing federal drug laws.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....at15m.html

  4. 535

    One particular bar in town was known for over-serving patrons. The local police decided to crack down on drunk driving, and staked out the bar, intending to arrest drunks as soon as they took “control” of their vehicle.

    Out of the bar stumbled one man. He barely made it into the parking lot, weaving the whole way. After going from car to car, he finally found what he believed to be his car. He tried to insert the key, but kept fumbling with it and dropped the keys on the ground. The officer watched him for twenty minutes as he tried to get his keys in the door. The entire parking lot emptied of bar patrons, but the officer ignored them, and kept his eyes glued to this one guy, determined that he was not going to let him “drink and drive”.

    Finally the guy gets his keys in the door, opens the door, sits inside, and puts his keys in the ignition. Finally!!!!

    The officer turns on his lights, pulls behind the car to block it from exiting the parking stall, and loudly orders the man out of the car. He conducts a field subriety test, but is surprised to find that the man actually does rather well. He can recite the alphabet, forwards and backwards, and he manages to walk heel to toe without a stumble. The officer then takes out his portable breath test kit, and instructs the man to breath into the tube. It shows a “zero” alchohol reading!

    The officer is perpelexed. “Have you been drinking!!!???” He inquires. Instead of the usual “two beers” response, the guy just says “No.” The officer smells his breath, and realizes for the first time that he doesn’t smell any alchohol.

    “Okay, what gives here?” the officer inquires. “A moment ago, you couldn’t stand up, but now you are as sober as a judge, and you say you haven’t been drinking at all. Just what’s going on here?”

    “I’m the decoy.” the man replies.

  5. 536

    Perhaps in your discussions tonight you’ll bring of the topic of why Cantwell refused to participate in an effort to pursue an early cease fire to the war in Lebanon. Yes, I communicated with her with such a request and was met with a reply that echoed the Bush party line that Hezbollah was solely responsible for the violence, etc. Anyone who has taken the time to do just a little research into the chronology of events leading up to Israel’s invasion of Lebanon would know that this is not true. Consider, as just one example Israel’s repeated, low-level overflights of southern Lebanon at supersonic speeds with F-16 fighters in violation of international law regarding sovreign air space.

    Go on. Liven up the conversation. Suggest some theories on why Cantwell would once again enable the Bush administration’s militaristic foreign policy.

  6. 537

    (un)Socialist,

    Marxism didn’t work in the 20th Century, and it won’t work in the 21st Century or any other century, for that matter! Why provide us with a link to a website for dolts?

  7. 538

    Now let me see, Baby Bush says the London terror plot is a reminder that Osama Bin Laden still wants to kill Americans. Can anyone please tell me then why we disbanded the unit that’s looking for him? Anyone? Anyone?

  8. 539

    From the “Moonbats from Zoolander who don’t write good” collection:

    …how big a capacitator do we need to shoot MTR into orbit with a flashlight battery?
    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/12/06@ 3:42 pm

    *For our illiterate trollfucks who are adverse to reading, Roi Ubu is…
    Commentby Dr. E— 8/14/06@ 7:32 pm

  9. 540

    Your gawd Algore would want each of you to ride an otherwise empty bus to DL tonight. How many of you will do so? For those of you progressives who really do have a conscience to save the fucking planet, let me know how it is riding with the guy with green hair and a hardware store in his face. Sounds charming…

  10. 541

    Cantwell votes to disallow Washingtonians to be able to continue to deduct their state sales taxes from their federal income taxes. Her lie about some minumum wage provision won;t even apply to Washington State, according to the labor department. Basically, Cantwell threw Washingtonians to the wolves in order to make partisan points with the democrat apparatchik.

  11. 542

    Why is Darcy Burner afraid to appear on KVI? Brian Suites just extended her an invitation on air and apparently has had a standing invitation for a while now. Apparently show only appears on goldstein’s show because she is afraid of tough questions (or appearing ona show that people actually listen to) – even though Brian Suites is hardly a tough questioner. Kirby or John would be ask much more harder questions.

  12. 543

    7

    You dont understand the concept of “its not working try something else”?

    Did any of those reports suggest that we are still not attempting to find him? that unit was disbanded…do you expect them to announce that another one was created?

    Sheesh

  14. 545

    She has also voted consistently to fund terrorists who are members of The Religion of Peace. By not voting for gulf, coast and ANWAR drilling she continues to feed those who would kill us.

    This is why it’s so important to have adults in charge.

  15. 546

    PBJ at 10: The federal tax exemption was a political move, and you know it. It was a hand granade lobbed directly at Cantwell, in hopes of aiding those making ignorant comments like the one you just made.

    All the Republican majority in the Senate had to do was to vote for: (a) a minimum wage bill, (b) an estate tax repeal bill, (c) a bill to extend the sales-tax deduction on federal income taxes, and (d) a bill to reduce the minimum wage for persons receiving tips. They didn’t put them on the floor as seperate bills, because they didn’t want them to pass. They just wanted to cover their buts by allowing endangered Republican encumbents to claim that they voted for the minimum wage bill, and they wanted to give political ammunition against the Democrats (like Cantwell) on the other items.

    Now, the Republicans have a majority in both houses of Congress. So any vote by Cantwell, or any other Democrat, was not dispositive of the combined bill. If the Republicans wanted the bill to pass, they only had to have their Whip force their members to vote it along party lines. They’ve done it often enough before, they could have done it here if they had wanted to.

    Congress will be back in session briefly in September. If the Republicans really want Washington and Tennessee and a few other states to have the deduction, they will pass it then. I think there is a chance this will happen, because Frist, the Republican Majority Leader, is from Tennessee (but he’s not retiring this year).

    But don’t keep spreading the lie that Cantwell voted against Washington taxpayers. Everyone knows it is a misleading statement, and it just makes you look dumb.

  16. 547

    Bush probably stopped looking for bin Laden because his whole family is very friendly with the bin Laden family. That’s also probably why Bush didn’t kill bin Laden in August 2001 before 9.11 when he had him in his sights. Also probably why Bush let the entire bin Laden family go while the skies were closed to air travel by Americans.

  17. 548

    -For those of you progressives who really do have a conscience to save the fucking planet, let me know how it is riding with the guy with green hair and a hardware store in his face. Sounds charming… –

    Looks like MTR is bashing South King County again. The guy with the green face is a Seahawk fan, moron!

    BTW, MTR, those who ride the bus at night are usually students, or members of Bush’s new working poor class who can’t afford a car. And since racist and bigoted selfservatives like you need poor people to water your fictional lawn on the eastside, and clean-up after your fictional wife in that fictional McMansion – I would imagine you think buses are a good idea.

  18. 549

    I previously pointed out the anti-Christian theme of modern liberalism with a couple of examples:

    “How about putting him and all his Republican buddies in a shipping container and sending them to Jesusland. We don’t need his ilk around here.”
    Comment by Roger Rabbit —— 10/27/05 @ 9:38 am

    “Someone will take the fall with book contracts and jobs in Jesusland or presidential pardons in the pipeline.”
    Comment by For the Clueless —— 10/7/05 @ 8:24 pm

    I didn’t expect much from the usually inane Clueless, and wasn’t disappointed;

    fascistfirst @ 20 – You are bat-shit crazy!
    Commentby For the Clueless— 8/13/06@ 8:47 pm;

    but Roger Rodent was a disappointment, he usually responds to seeing his name in print:

    “let me take this opportunity to announce I am a gay man, and proud of it. Thank you.”
    Comment by Roger rabbit —— 4/21/06 @ 11:34 am

    Apparently the 4-21 comment was spoofed, but Rodent was quick to correct;

    “I never said that, you fucking liar. But you said it …… so, fascistfuck, how long have you been queer? Do you think your, um, preference is of biological origin or a learned behavior?”
    Commentby Roger Rabbit—— 8/11/06@ 6:30 pm

    Here are a couple more;

    Momus Pompous Assus –– I know how “accountability” and “taking responsibility” work in Jesusland, dude. No need to explain it to me.
    Commentby Roger Rabbit—— 2/14/06@ 11:51 am,

    Lincoln made a mistake fighting the Civil War to keep the union together. He should have let these fucks keep Jesusland and live in their own fucking country.
    Commentby Roger Rabbit—— 6/19/06@ 9:58 pm

    So Rodent, why do you think the term “Jesusland” is clever? Tell us why your Bush-hating and Christian-hating doesn’t go together. While you’re at it, see if you can tell the difference between the rhetoric of an ordinary Bush-hating lib and an Islamofascist:

    1. “George Bush’s personal commitment to and sympathy for Christian fundamentalism are well-known. Indeed, it is becoming increasingly clear that his foreign policies, as in Afghanistan, Iraq and now Iran, are powerfully shaped by the Christian fundamentalist agenda of global conquest for Christ and Capital. Christian fundamentalists believe that Christ alone is the way to salvation, and that the entire world must be brought to heel before him, by force if necessary. In the past, this pernicious doctrine was used to bless bloody Crusades and wars of imperial plunder. The doctrine serves exactly the same purpose today, although in a somewhat modified garb, as the bombing of Afghanistan, the destruction of Iraq and the possible American invasion of Iran clearly indicate. Although these acts are sought to be justified by America as a ‘civilising’ mission or as part of its ‘war on terror’, the underlying white Christian supremacist vision behind American imperialism, a continuation of the logic of European colonialism, is unmistakable.”

    2.”By appointing John Ashcroft, and allowing him to appoint a proven sadist to oversee the Iraqi prison system, George Bush demonstrates his ‘Christian values.’ The media parrots his tepid outrage. Bush and the media both ignored the findings of the IRC (Red Cross) and Amnesty International that abuse of prisoners in Iraq was a widespread and serious problem.”

  19. 550

    16,

    So left turn, what is your excuse for why Clinton let him go all the times he had him in his sites?

  20. 551

    Illinois Senator Barack Obama warns citizens at his 50th Town Hall meeting about gas guzzling. It was among many points made to the standing room only audience at the Metropolis Community Center. Obama spoke on everything from DC politics to global warming. He says part of the blame for the world’s higher temperatures rests on gas guzzling vehicles. Obama says consumers can make the difference by switching to higher mileage hybrids. Today the Senator said, “It would save more energy, do more for the environment and create better world security than all the drilling we could do in Alaska.”

    After the meeting… Obama left in a tricked out GMC Envoy after admitting to favoring SUV’s himself. [Classically funny!!! Who does this hypocite think he is? John Kerry? Al Gore? Typical bull shit from a dumb ass lib who may run with Hillary]

  21. 552

    Your gawd Algore would want each of you to ride an otherwise empty bus to DL tonight. How many of you will do so? -Commentby Mark The Redneck— 8/15/06@ 4:32 pm

    So would Obama, yet another Democrap = HYPOCRITE

    IL: Obama Warns of Gas Guzzling Cars in Town Hall Meeting

    Staff Report

    Monday, August 14, 2006

    Illinois Senator Barack Obama warns citizens at his 50th Town Hall meeting about gas guzzling. It was among many points made to the standing room only audience at the Metropolis Community Center. Obama spoke on everything from DC politics to global warming. He says part of the blame for the world’s higher temperatures rests on gas guzzling vehicles. Obama says consumers can make the difference by switching to higher mileage hybrids. Today the Senator said, “It would save more energy, do more for the environment and create better world security than all the drilling we could do in Alaska.”

    After the meeting… Obama left in a GMC Envoy after admitting to favoring SUV’s himself. …

    After the meeting… Obama left in a GMC Envoy after admitting to favoring SUV’s himself. …

    After the meeting… Obama left in a GMC Envoy after admitting to favoring SUV’s himself.

  22. 553

    Who wrote the following?

    Immediately after the London plot was disrupted, a “senior administration official,” insisting on anonymity for his or her splenetic words, denied the obvious, that Kerry had a point…

    This farrago of caricature and non sequitur makes the administration seem eager to repel all but the delusional. But perhaps such rhetoric reflects the intellectual contortions required to sustain the illusion that the war in Iraq is central to the war on terrorism, and that the war, unlike “the law enforcement approach,” does “work.”

  23. 554

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedy, I do admire your writing style. Best regards, DR JCH Kennedy

  24. 555

    americafirst @ 18
    Read the 8/14 Newsweek cover article on Billy Graham, and you will read of a man of Christ. He’s not like you, not at all. Indeed, I suspect if Christ walked into your house you’d kick him out. As Stephen Stills said, “Jesus Christ was the first nonviolent revolutionary.” You’d hate his guts.

  25. 556

    After five decades of watching their white neighbors leave the city of Detroit by the thousands, Detroit’s African-Americans have begun to follow. Detroit’s black population fell 10 percent from 2000 to 2005, according to population estimates released today by the U.S. Census Bureau. The decline reverses Detroit’s 50-year trend of attracting African-Americans even as the city’s overall population fell. [……………………………………………………………………………..Why would anyone want to leave the Hillary Village of Detroit? Oh, BTW, the number of DEMOCRAT votes coming out of urban Detroit will continue to grow, REGARDLESS of population loss. ANY and ALL questions about this voter fraud would be racist. hehe, JCH]

  26. 557

    Roger Rabbit rarely attends these things because hopping all the way down to Montlake on pavement takes the edge off my samurai toenails.

  28. 559

    8, 9

    Hard up for material tonight, Redneck? Come to my burrow and I’ll give you something to write about! Bring your lips, leave your dentures at home. For a good time, call 1-800-BLOW-ROG.

  29. 560

    10

    “according to the labor department”

    Why should Cantwell believe what Bush’s labor department says? Republicans have spoken with forked tongues about everything else.

  30. 561

    12

    “You dont understand the concept of ‘its not working try something else’?” Commentby sven— 8/15/06@ 4:45 pm

    Actually, the problem is more in the nature of “nothing done by this administration ever worked in the first place,” so why are they still in office?

  31. 562

    Hey pbj, why won’t the CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES allow a vote on a stand-alone bill to raise the minimum wage? And why do they want to let restaurant owners deduct tips from the minimum wages they pay? Under the CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVE bill that Cantwell appropriately voted against, restaurant owners could pay waitresses as little as $2 an hour.

  32. 563

    Hey pbj, I’ve got a couple of questions for ya good buddy:

    1) How many innocent people has the Bush administration arrested under terrorism laws?

    2) How many people has the Bush administration prosecuted for violating the federal minimum wage law?

    3) Which is more, 1) or 2)?

  33. 564

    18

    “‘let me take this opportunity to announce I am a gay man, and proud of it. Thank you.’ Comment by Roger rabbit —— 4/21/06 @ 11:34 am”

    Hate to break it to you, fascistfirst, but there is no such post. Next time, before you cut-and-paste a trollfuck post, you should check the HA archives to see if it’s actually there so you don’t make a public ass of yourself. The problem, you see, is that trollfucks make things up.

  34. 565

    Anybody with more brain function than a dandelion would see through that nonsense right away. No self-respecting rabbit would call himself a “gay MAN.”

  35. 566

    @27, Redneck,

    I should have known you can’t last long without attacking females. NOW did a lot of great things for women and you are just insulting as hell to any female who reads your sexist crap.

    Hopefully, you will mess up and the Judge will double your child/spousal support!

  36. 567

    And we also now know that Bush probably knew about 9.11 in advance like he did the London terror plot but he decided it would be better for the GOP if he let it happen.

  37. 568

    27

    And vaginas were invented to allow attractive crack whores easier access to Redneck’s bank book.

    F I V E H U N D R E D T H O U S A N D D O L L A R S

    $500,000.000

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

    You can buy a garage in Green Lake for that kind of money!

  38. 569

    35

    Mac — Redneck is sexually frustrated. He hasn’t been laid in a long, long time. Even the Aurora Avenue whores won’t have anything to do with him. Now Mac, you’re a woman, so ask yourself — after reading this guy’s posts, would you spread your legs for him? Nah, I didn’t think so.

  39. 570

    When the CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES repeal the 13th amendment, I’m going to buy Redneck from Goldy for the $100 he owes Goldy, and when Redneck is my slave he’ll give me blowjobs whenever I want one.

  41. 572

    And we also now know that Bush probably knew about 9.11 in advance like he did the London terror plot but he decided it would be better for the GOP if he let it happen.

    Commentby LeftTurn […………………………………………………………………………….Cynthia “BitchSlap” McKinney, is that you??]

  42. 573

    Mac – Who did I attack? Just stating the truth. Why do you think I should be punished for stating truth?

    BTW, I’m out of the check writing business…

  43. 574

    33, it is in the HA archives,rodent. If it’s fake, so be it. Are you claiming the “Jesusland” quotes are fake also?

  44. 575

    News Flash: Barak Obama lectures citizens at Town Hall meeting on the badness of gas-guzzling cars. Then leaves the meeting in an SUV.
    Oops.

  45. 576

    Actually, Roger Rabbit never makes it to DL because Tuesday night is his regular “Golden Shower from Ann Coulter Night.” He sometimes likes hot lunch, too, and I try to accomodate his wishes if I’m “in the mood.”

  46. 577

    Anti-Semitism at CNN

    I wonder how much longer it will be before the liberal press begins to push for Isreal’s removal from the Middle East? I also wonder whose side Goldy will be on…………..

    CNN’s Jeff Greenfield appeared on “Imus” Tuesday morning and said this about the Middle East:

    “I’ve never heard it explained adequately how you solve a problem where two different people think God gave them the same piece of land. I mean, what actually, we’ve seen how you’ve made progress. And what happens is, at some point, and I don’t just mean in the Middle East, at some point, to be blunt about it, somebody gives up something. You don’t conquer them, you know, like Gormany and Japan after World War II.

    DeKlerk gave up, in the best possible sense, South Afirca – he said, ‘we can’t keep this going any more.’ The colonial forces, the British and French and others said we can’t run this part of the world anymore.

    Essentially Mikhail Gorbachev gave up that malicious dream of a totalitarian state could change the world.

    And in the American south, the white southerners, the segregationists, they were made to give up, said you know what, we can’t do this anymore. So the question I get is, who gives up what?”
    ______________________________________________________________

    UPDATE: A Mideast expert writes me with this thought:

    I don’t get his point. It can’t be that 6 million Israeli Jews (or 13 million Jews total), “give up” more of eretz Yisrael. The Arabs already have Judea and Samaria (West Bank), the Jewish religious and historical heartland, and most Jews seem willing to tolerate that, more or less. Not to mention, the Arabs already have 82.5 percent of British Mandatory Palestine (Jordan, West Bank, and Gaza Strip) and most Jews seem willing to live with that, more or less.

    For Israelis/Jews, this isn’t about “giving up something,” it’s about not giving up. The South African example is misleading, as usual. Even at the height of the anti-apartheid struggle, most blacks did not see most whites, as I understand it, as not South African. So is the reference to Germany and France. AFTER both were heavily damaged in World Wars, and Germany leveled in the second, Germany learned to live without all of Alsace-Lorraine, etc.

    So, what’s Greenfield’s point? That the Arab-Muslims have to give something up? Yes, right after their version of the Protestant Reformation/Catholic Counter-reformation, or maybe Allied occupation.

  47. 578

    CHALLENGE TO GOLDY.

    By the way I don’t expect that he will respond to my challenge.

    Goldy,

    You have given little or no commentary on the struggle that embroils your ethnic brothers and sisters in Israel.

    They seem, however, to have some very firm opinions themselves. Do you agree or disagree with them?

    Many Israelis Furious at How War Was Run
    Aug 16 9:24 AM US/Eastern
    By AMY TEIBEL
    Associated Press Writer
    JERUSALEM

    As the Mideast cease-fire took hold, there was no truce in Israeli politics: Demands mounted for the military chief’s resignation, and the government came under increasing criticism over how the war against Hezbollah was waged.
    Newspapers and radio shows were filled with outrage over army chief Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz’s decision to sell off his stock portfolio just hours before launching Israel’s biggest military operation since its 1982 invasion of Lebanon.

    Halutz declared himself a victim of malicious reporting, saying he has been turned “into a Shylock.”
    Calls mounted Wednesday for setting up a commission of inquiry into how the war was run, amid growing dissatisfaction with Israel’s leaders and Monday’s cease-fire.

    The 34-day war against Lebanese Hezbollah guerrillas, widely seen here as just, had united Israel’s fractured society. Hezbollah was considered a growing threat after it had vastly expanded its arsenal of missiles in recent years.
    But the unity crumbled after Israel’s fabled army pulled out of south Lebanon without crushing Hezbollah or rescuing two soldiers whose July 12 capture by the guerillas during a raid in Israel triggered the fighting.

    The war began just two months after Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Defense Minister Amir Peretz, men with little military experience, took office. Surveys in two major Hebrew-language dailies on Wednesday showed low approval ratings for both.
    A poll of 500 people by TNS-Teleseker showed support for Olmert sinking to 40 percent after soaring to 78 percent in the first two weeks of the offensive.

    Peretz’ approval rating plunged to 28 percent from 61 percent, according to the poll, which has a margin of error of 4.4 percentage points. A second poll, by the Dahaf Research Institute, showed 57 percent calling for his resignation.
    The Dahaf poll, which had a margin of error of 4.5 percentage points, showed 70 percent opposed to a cease-fire that did not include the return of the captured soldiers, and 69 percent backing an official inquiry into the war’s prosecution.

    http://www.breitbart.com/news/.....HOUO0.html

  49. 580

    As the winds of war continue to blow in the Middle East, one question must be asked; who will stand up for Israel and the jewish people?

    Will Goldy stand up?

    I wonder………..

    Wednesday, Aug. 16, 2006 10:26 a.m. EDT
    Syria President Assad Threatens War
    Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad says his country is prepared for war with Israel and warned that the Golan Heights would be seized “by Syrian hands.”
    In an interview with the Egyptian publication Al-Usbu after the ceasefire in Lebanon went into effect, Assad declared: “Syria has been prepared and ready since the first day of the war . . .
    “We and the resistance (Hezbollah) read clearly that the day of confrontation was definitely approaching. The current war is five years old, and there were widespread preparations for this day.”
    Assad said he is convinced that steps toward peace “have fallen off, and that the Golan will be liberated by Syrian hands.”

    Asked what the expected results would be if Israel launched an attack against Syria, Assad said: “If Israel acts with adventurism and enters into a war with Syria, this will be the beginning of a heavy price that it will pay.”
    Assad said Hezbollah’s conflict with Israel marks “a new stage in the history of [the Arab] nation, and he remarked ominously: “To this day no one in American intelligence or Israeli intelligence knows what the true capabilities of the resistance are.”
    The Syrian government daily Al-Thawra claimed Hezbollah had achieved a military victory over Israel, which “forced the Americans to make huge diplomatic efforts aimed at preventing [the victory] from being translated into a new political reality.”
    On Tuesday, Germany’s foreign minister abruptly canceled a planned visit to Syria after Assad gave a speech ridiculing Israel’s military offensive in Lebanon and warning against disarming Hezbollah.

  50. 581

    And CAIR has the courage to say that their are no “Islamo-Fascists”?

    “Iran seeks to test taboos with Holocaust cartoons

    The contest, held jointly with Iran’s Cartoon House, a syndicate for caricaturists, will be open until September 14. Until now, Shojai said 1,193 drawings had been received from 61 countries but he said judges chose 204 to put on display.
    Several cartoons showed images of the Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler, one showing him smiling as he stood behind

    President Bush while bombs carrying the Star of David fell. Another showed a turtle with a U.S. emblem laying eggs carrying the Star of David.

    The contest was welcomed by some visiting youths who were at the exhibition on Wednesday, two days after it opened.
    “After the Holocaust was questioned by the president, now I have real doubts about it,” said Maryam Zadkani, a 23-year-old graphic artist as she wandered around the exhibition.
    “I came here to see what other cartoonists around the world think about the Holocaust.”

    The winner and runners up will be announced on September 2, with the top three entries receiving $12,000, $8,000 and $5,000 respectively. “The government is not financing the prize,” Shojai said, without saying who was offering the cash.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200.....locaust_dc

    I really wonder if liberal and secular jews believe that they can somehow escape the wrath of these sick people by renouncing their heritage?

  51. 582

    42

    “BTW, I’m out of the check writing business… ” Commentby Mark The Redneck— 8/15/06@ 8:22 pm

    Yeah, we’ve all noticed you’re a lying deadbeat welsher.

  52. 583

    46

    The Israelis have 90% of the water. How much of the water are they willing to give up? The Palestinians have to make a living, like everyone else.

  53. 584

    The ONLY way the Democrats will win in 06 and 08 is with 20% voter fraud in large urban, black and cities and illegal alien votes. Democrats must achieve 115% turnout of registration, and, in my best guess, will!! Any and all questions about voter fraud in Chicago, Philly, Detroit, Cleveland, Atlanta, Gary, and LA will be considered “racist” and will not be allowed. Expect additional voter fraud in Columbus, OH and Broward County, FL. The sad fact is the Dems will pull it off.

  56. 587

    cryptology apologia Caribbean surface Americanizers:depository!gusts prospection Arequipa:

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Come on by and watch me and Joel Connelly come to fisticuffs over campaign civility.

And if you happen to be a liberal drinker on the other side of the mountains, the Tri-Cities chapter of DL also meets Tuesday nights, 7 PM, Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd., in Richland. Go ask Jimmy for more details.

Comments

  2. 589

    I’ll bet Joel is really afraid of Goldie.
    Watch out Joel…..Goldie fights dirty.
    He likes to pinch, scratch and slap folks that question him with his fucking “man-purse”!

  3. 590

    The commie libs didn’t want an oil pipeline in Alaska in the first place. Shouldn’t they be happy the line is shut down for a few weeks??? But nooooooooooooooooo!! They bitch when it’s moving oil, and they bitch when it is shut down. Typical coomie lib idiot dumb ass Democrats [JDB]!!!

  4. 591

    SCUBA diving in Kona [4 mile], I saw a fish with a huge nose that looked like JDB. He was mouthing off none stop until a grey reef shark ate him in one bite. He doesn’t have as much to say now. hehe, JCH

  5. 592

    Josef,

    Ned Lamont could actually win. I think it’s gonna be a close election in CT.

  6. 593

    Cynthia “BitchSlap” McKinney/William J. “Icebox” Jefferson, Democrat Ticket, 2008!!! All you commie lib Dems must support this ticket on HA.ORG or you are racist!!!! hehe, JCH

  7. 594

    Goldy, The REAL Jewish men are wearing uniforms in the IDF and the IAF. YOU, on the other hand, will be drinking beer and pretending to write deposition questions in some bar in Seattle. Pussy…………..

  8. 595

    Doctor JCH Kennedy–
    Please be advised that Mr. KLOWNSTEIN should heretofore be referred to as G-O-L-D-I-E (the feminine spelling) for obvious reasons.
    GOLDIE is a “testicle-free zone”!

  10. 597

    Please be advised that Mr. KLOWNSTEIN should heretofore be referred to as G-O-L-D-I-E (the feminine spelling) for obvious reasons.
    GOLDIE is a “testicle-free zone”! -Commentby Mr. Cynical— 8/8/06@ 1:49 pm

    I prefer LA GOLDIE

  13. 600

    Here’s an interesting photo. This is a bunch of Young Republicans playing in steer manure. A bulldozer pushed a year’s supply of troll comments on HA — you know, “bullshit” — into a huge pile, and these yahoos are jumping up and down in it. http://technovision.net/images.....t-pile.jpg

    P.S. — they smell like shit

  15. 602

    Got any independent sources for the same info? Taxpolicycenter.org ain’t exactly unbiased.

  18. 605

    14 “..how Bush’s tax cuts increased government revenue..”

    Nice trick, yet displays the lefty ignorance that seems to be replacing cow poop as the major source of methane gas. Start with the two years ending FY2001,(just after GW took office), and then end at the end of FY2003, just as the majority of the cuts were inacted. Better review even your biased source to see the projected increases beyond the FY2004 data, until 2010. As most of the tax cuts sunset after 2010 the receipts will go back down after that.

  19. 606

    Ain’t no love in NH…

    The Hillary Haters
    The Boston Globe’s Brett Arends reports that New Hampshire voters have some nasty things to say about Hillary Clinton, New York’s junior senator:

    Dick Bennett has been polling New Hampshire voters for 30 years. And he’s never seen anything like it.

    “Lying b**** . . . shrew . . . Machiavellian . . . evil, power-mad witch . . . the ultimate self-serving politician.”

    No prizes for guessing which presidential front-runner drew these remarks in focus groups. . . .

    We’re not talking about “soft” negatives like, say, “out of touch” or “arrogant.”

    We’re talking: “Criminal . . . megalomaniac . . . fraud . . . dangerous . . . devil incarnate . . . satanic . . . power freak.”

    Satanic.

    And: “Political wh***.”

    (Note: I don’t usually like reporting such personal remarks, but in this case you can hardly understand the situation without them. I have no strong personal feelings about the senator.)

    We assume the asterisked words rhyme with “rich” and “poor,” respectively. Anyway, what’s astonishing about these descriptions of Mrs. Clinton is that all of them come from Democrats. According to Bennett, 45% of Granite State Dems have a bad impression of her, and for many of them it is very bad indeed.

    Must be a vast left-wing conspiracy.

    http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110008766

  22. 609

    Kaanapali is very nice for scuba diving!

    Commentby sgmmac [That’s in Maui. I live on the Big Island.]

  23. 610

    Remember when the lib Dems didn’t want a pipeline built in Alaska? Now the line is closed for repair and the libs are bitching again. Bitch….Bitch……….Democrats: The Party That Sounds Like An Ex Wife!!!!!

  24. 611

    Josef’s blog isn’t the only thing that’s dormant. So’s his love life.

  25. 612

    19

    “Criminal . . . megalomaniac . . . fraud . . . dangerous . . . devil incarnate . . . satanic . . . power freak.”

    Perfect description of Dubya.

  26. 613

    Ah well rotten rodent… the NH dems were talking about Hitlary, your commie mommie and her own one woman communist party.

  28. 615

    Thanks for reminding me:

    Exclusive.

    Was the Jew killer a conservative or liberal. In the Seattle Times we have the following quote:

    Haq’s friend said he couldn’t believe the timid, “geeky” man he knew from the tutoring center was capable of such violence.

    “Are you sure we’re talking about the same person?” he said Sunday………….

    He said Haq was not a devout Muslim and often complained that the Tri-Cities were too politically conservative.

    “I’m beginning to think I was his only friend in the Tri-Cities. I don’t recall him hanging out with anybody else.”

    Now for the other side we turn to Goldy’s story from last week:

    Psssssssssstttttttt…….

    Ah it looks like the story was all a bunch of hot air. Well there you have it. Enjoy all you Nazi Libs.

  29. 616

    Technical problems in DeKalb County are delaying the vote count there, including vote count reports in the U.S. House District 4 race between incumbent Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney and Hank Johnson.

    Poll workers were having difficulty uploading memory cards from electronic voting machines, said Chris Riggall, a spokesman for the Georgia Secretary of State’s office.

    It is not known how long it will take to get vote totals from DeKalb County. [………………………………………………………………………………………………………..This is the Republicans fault!! Oh…..wait!………There isn’t a Republican around for miles in the GA 4th……………………… Never mind. Rosanna Rosannadana [SNL]

  30. 617

    Inbred repukelicans here have their panties in a bunch over Connecticut voters giving GOP loyalist Lieberman the boot.

    The only way to win the ‘War on Terrorism’ is to impeach the sonofabitch. Bush and the neo-cons have no intention to stop terrorism, just the opposite. Perhaps the repukelicans here will figure it out when their young men come home in a box. George Bush is fuck’n atheist liar crook megalomaniac.

  31. 618

    If you were a Conneticut citizen… wouldn’t you be a little disconcerted that a guy YOU picked to be your Senatorial candidate who’s supposed to represent YOU in the federal government is flanked broadly by two public figures [Jesse “Shakedown Jacksoooooon and and Al “Tawana Brawlay” Sharpton] that have nothing to do with your state?

  32. 619

    You should watch Ned Lamont go down while you’re at it…

    Commentby Josef— 8/8/06@ 1:20 pm

    Ahem.

  33. 620

    Just another Chicken Hawk at 31:

    Much better than having a nick name from George Bush. There appears to be a certain loser.

  34. 621

    If I lived in Connecticut, I’d be glad my candidate supported by black politicians true to their caucus and constituency. So, how long ya think dat JCH Kennedy feller done been a racist prick? Lernd it from his daddy I’ll bet.

  35. 622

    find any 11 arab students who went awol in montana

    do you even care? I guess if they were israelis you’d go bug eyed..

  37. 624

    If I lived in Connecticut, I’d be glad my candidate supported by black politicians true to their caucus and constituency.

    Commentby Wells […….Er, Wells, Would that be Jesse shaking down “deep pocket” corporations and Al representing Tawana “They be raping me!” Brawley??]

  38. 625

    righton:

    And who is responsible for making sure things like this don’t happen. Oh, that’s right, George W. Bush. Imagine the hell storm you would bring if Clinton let something like this happen.

  39. 626

    jdb; don’t go down that path

    too easy for us to reprint all the clinton crap w chinese, cruise missiles into tents, etc

    Just paste the big story and alert in the liberal media for me on this one, and maybe i’d blame bush….naw, you cannot blame him for everything bad…

  40. 627

    righton:

    and I’ll paste in all the hysteria from the right about Clinton betraying his country and comitting treason in cases that turn out usually to be about nothing. So, you are right, lets not go down that path.

    You cannot blame Bush for everything, but care to tell me just one thing he was right about?

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight.

What do we really do each week at Drinking Liberally? Well, this week I suppose I’ll propose a toast to good health for Fidel Castro (better intestinal fortitude?)…while…um…burning an American flag…and…and…we’ll sing the national anthem—in Spanish—while smoking Cuban cigars. Yeah…that’s the kind of fun we have each week.

Won’t you join us?

We meet at the Montlake Ale House (2307 24th Avenue E). The fun begins at 8:00 p.m.

Drinking Liberally is hosted by Seattle bloggers Nick Beaudrot of Electoral Math and Thehim of Blog Reload. If you find yourself in the Tri-Cities area this evening, check out Drinking Liberally at the Atomic Ale in Richland. Jimmy has the details.

Comments

  3. 631

    Fidel? Oh yeah, I forgot, Democrats love communist dictators who use, abuse, imprison, rape and kill their people. Who knows maybe Jimmie Carter, the most worthless US President in our history will show up to DL. He’s a big Fidel and Chavez fan.

    What a guy, he’s just right up there with Lenin!

  4. 632

    Hmph. It would appear that Mike! would need an awful lot of help from the folks over on K Street to supplement that pittance of a Senatorial salary and continue to live in the style to which he’s no doubt accustomed.

  6. 634

    A new InsiderAdvantage/Majority Opinion poll for the Democratic primary runoff in Georgia’s 4th Congressional district shows challenger Hank Johnson maintaining his lead over incumbent U.S. Representative Cynthia McKinney by a full 15 percentage points as the runoff election looms closer. McKinney’s totals moved up from the last poll late last week, but she still sat well behind former DeKalb County Commissioner Johnson.

    It is racism, racism I tell you! That and her new hairdo.

  7. 635

    I’m soooo sorry Fidel won’t make your party tonight. Perhaps Hillary and her “Fucking Jew Bastard” [HER WORDS, not mine] ex-employee Dick Morris might show up together. Perhaps not.

  8. 636

    What a great day. First Conservative Catholic hero, Mel Gibson, finally admits he made bigoted remarks (but he’s not anti-semitic!).

    Then, Dori “I incorporate sexual innuendo in my schtick weekly, but I condemn any use of the f-word” Monson waves around a tabloid trash NY Sun editorial, claiming all these mentally ill religious zealots with (Republican sponsored) guns are all part of one big TERRORIST conspiracy.

    What a hoot it was when Monson’s listeners all took his bait, claiming that we should call Friday’s tragic event a “terrorist act.” Monson even went so far to claim that Haq was just “faking” his Christianity, so as to conceal his real Muslim terrorist identity (I’m not kidding).

    The Christian right sure is cracking up. JCH Kennedy actually started a trend for once!

  9. 637

    While I might agree Dick Morris is a Fucking Bastard, I am unaware of any evidence Hillary called him a racial slur. Who claims she ever said this, or is this just a fevered dream of JCH’s?

  10. 638

    Artfart @ 2

    Cigars? Not in a bar in Washington, dearie…

    No worries…we’ll carefully observe the 25 foot rule.

    And the 4 foot rule, too!

  11. 639

    Not to worry – JCH Kennedy is just recounting some old, old urban legends that go back to the “Bill Clinton Killed 30 people” days. If I believed half of REP Kennedy’s lies, I’d be a right wing mental case, too. (Let’s just hope – for his family and – one – friend’s sake he doesn’t own a gun)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.....troversies

    Anti-Semitic slurs

    Several people have accused Clinton of making anti-Semitic comments or slurs. In 2000, lawyer Paul Fray, who ran Bill Clinton’s failed 1974 run for Congress, claimed that after that defeat, Hillary Rodham, then Clinton’s girlfriend, raged that he (Fray) was a “Fucking Jew Bastard.” Fray’s wife and businessman Neil McDonald both claim to have witnessed this slur. [2] Hillary Clinton denied that she ever made such a remark and released a 1997 letter in which Fray apologized regarding statements he had made about her over the years. [3] In addition Fray had previously been disbarred for altering court documents and also suffered from a medical condition that caused erratic behavior and memory loss. [4] Moreover, Fray was only one-eighth Jewish, not one-half as a book detailing the accusation had claimed. [5]

    Larry Patterson, a former Arkansas state trooper and bodyguard to Bill and Hillary Clinton who related a series of lurid accusations about the couple, then said he heard the couple use anti-Semitic slurs “10 to 20” times. He asserts that he has heard Hillary use the term “Jew Bastard” and called President Clinton a “Jew Boy” and a “Mother Fucking Jew.” [6]

    In a discussion of the Fray allegation, Dick Morris, a former political advisor to President Clinton, asserted that a couple of years previously, Hillary Clinton had used a Jewish stereotype during an argument about consulting fees, stating “Money – that’s all you people care about is money.” [7]

  12. 640

    -In addition Fray had previously been disbarred for altering court documents and also suffered from a medical condition that caused erratic behavior and memory loss.-

    No wonder REP Kennedy quoted him.

  14. 642

    They are actually broadcast to him via one of his fillings. Or, his tinfoil hat.

  15. 643

    Again this week, I must ask you moonbats to take strong decisive action to combat your gawd’s belief that man, and not THE FUCKING SUN causes the warming of mommy erf.

    I must ask that you NOT drive to DL, and instead take a metro bus that would otherwise be empty.

    I’ll need a full report on the single 300 pound mother and her screaming kids, and the teenage punk with the metal in his face and the green hair.

    Let me know how that goes. OK?

  16. 644

    Sad news today. CPL Philip E. Baucus, age 28, died while serving his country in Anwar province in Iraq Saturday. CPL Baucus was the nephew of Montana Sen. Max Baucus, a Democrat. Sen. Baucus originally voted to authorize military action in 2002, but recently voted in favor of a phased withdrawal from Iraq.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14140498/

    Meanwhile, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and Daniel Rumsfield never served, despite being of age during the Vietnam War. Neither of the Bush twins have volunteered to serve, nor (to my knowledge) have any of the offspring of Rove, Cheney, or Rumsfield.

    Yet Republicans call Murtha, a combat veteran, a “coward” in the halls of Congress, because he questioned the wisdom of the administration’s military policy in Iraq. They also accuse Democrats, in general, of wanting to “duck and run” from Iraq. They threw mud at a combat veteran who ran against Bush in the last election, while daring the news media to report on Bush’s failure to complete his service in the Texas Air National Guard.

    Perhaps the symbol of the Republican party should be changed from an Elephant to a ChickenHawk.

  17. 645

    Are any of the GOP chickenhawks’ kids serving in Iraq? Surely the right wingers here must have some sort of list. Why, none of the Sound Politics kooks ever seem to have served, either. How strange.

  18. 646

    -I’ll need a full report on the single 300 pound mother and her screaming kids, and the teenage punk with the metal in his face and the green hair.-

    MTR – are you describing a Metro bus, or a line of cars in traffic jam (anywhere) in South King County?

    I think it’s funny MTR is one of the last guys on earth who uses his CrackerJack box degrees to come up with the conclusion that “the sun is behind the rise in average global temperatures.”

    If the scientific theory or proof doesn’t fit on a bumper sticker, MTR ain’t gonna unnerstand it!

  19. 647

    Are any of the GOP chickenhawks’ kids serving in Iraq? Surely the right wingers here must have some sort of list. Why, none of the Sound Politics kooks ever seem to have served, either. How strange.

    Commentby LiberalRedneck …………………………………………………………….[Gonzo Station, Arabian Gulf, 1980…………………AND YOU??????? Yeah, I though so. JCH]

  20. 648

    JCH you need to get your allegations straight.

    The alleged target of Hilary’s “f*cking jew bastard” tirade was Paul Fray, and not Dick Morris. Fray was Bill Clinton’s campaign manager, and the alleged tirade was made after Bill Clinton lost his 1974 relection bid. I’m definitely not a Hilary fan, and she has a number of flaws, that I think make her less than Presidential, but I’m skeptical she’s an anti-Semite.

  21. 649

    @19 You see moron, if you say you are for the war but won’t fight, that makes you a chicken hawk. If you say you are against the war why would you fight? Got it? Does it hurt to be that stupid? Do you mind being a coward? Does it take you two hours to watch 60 Minutes? Did your parents have any children that lived? Is there a reason you’re alive? Oh yes, I forgot. It’s against the law to kill you.

  22. 650

    Librul – Yeah, you gotta be a real kook to think that THE FUCKING SUN has anything to do with global warming. That’s just not consistent with “science” is it?

    You guys crack me up…

  24. 652

    JCH you need to get your allegations straight.

    The alleged target of Hilary’s “f*cking jew bastard” tirade was Paul Fray, and not Dick Morris. Fray was Bill Clinton’s campaign manager, and the alleged tirade was made after Bill Clinton lost his 1974 relection bid. I’m definitely not a Hilary fan, and she has a number of flaws, that I think make her less than Presidential, but I’m skeptical she’s an anti-Semite.

    Commentby ConservativeFirst [Wrong. That is NOT what Dick Morris said!!!!]

  25. 653

    Dick Morris was on FOX [Hannity and Colmes] and state CLEARLY Hillary attacked him [“FUCKING JEW BASTARD!”] several times. Dick works as a polling consultant for the Clintons at the time.

  26. 654

    If Fedel dies, will all the Democrats jet off to Cuba for the funeral?

  30. 658

    16,”Meanwhile, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and Daniel Rumsfield never served, despite being of age during the Vietnam War. Neither of the Bush twins have volunteered to serve, nor (to my knowledge) have any of the offspring of Rove, Cheney, or Rumsfield.”
    Commentby rhp6033— 8/1/06@ 5:42 pm

    I’ll take a chickenhawk over a chickenlib anytime. At least Rove, Cheney and Rumsfeld support our troops. Chickenlibs like Reid, Schumer and Feingold weasel out of serving then turn around and stab our troops in the back. You fifth-column chickenlib aholes not only won’t serve, you tell everybody else not to serve to cover up for your cowardice. FU.

  31. 659

    Americafirst, your missive on 30 doesn’t draw upon a single fact. What is your basis for arguing that Reid, Schumer and Feingold have have stabbed our troops in the back? Are you referring to specific policies they have advocated? If so, what are they?

  32. 660

    AmericaFirst at 30 said: “At least Rove, Cheney and Rumsfeld support our troops”

    GIVE ME A BREAK!

    Rumsfield thinks he’s a modern-day Metternicht, but its pretty clear that much of the modern mess in the Gulf region is due to his incompetence, dating back to his days in the Ford and Reagan administrations. He’s quick to send in troops to try to fix problems he created by trying to play both sides of the fence for too long (i.e., arming both Iran and Iraq at the same time). He sent troops into Iraq without preparing the proper groundwork (i.e., assuming Turkey would allow us to launch and offensive from their territory, without bothering to confirm this with them in advance), and ignored and side-lined generals who warned him he didn’t have enough boots on the ground to properly occupy the country. Then when the Iraqi government army collapsed and its armories were open for weeks to any looter who could cart off as much as he could carry, Rumsfield claimed “no one could know” this would happen. Yea, like Bush claiming that “no one could know” of the devestation that would be caused by Katrina, despite warnings for years previously.

    For decades the Army has been warning that our troops should avoid at all costs getting involved in urban warfare, especially in a city the size of Iraq. That is one of the reasons Bush I refused to carry the first Gulf War into Iraq. But Rumsfield chose to assume the best-case scenario, that we would be greeted with flowers and the overwhelming love of the Iraqi people, rather than take a more realistic approach that even a cursory history of Iraq (especially during years of British control) would have revealed.

    He sent Humvees, which are really nothing more than big jeeps, into an urban warfare environment for which they were proven to be poorly suited in Somalia, some ten years previously. Soldiers had to use “hillbilly armour” to try to make up for the lack of armored vehicles, while Rumsfield denied that there was a problem, until he was forced to finally work on armoring the Humvees when confronted by a question at a press conference by a National Guard soldier from Tennessee.

    A competent Secretary of Defense would have told the President that they didn’t have the troops available to fight in Afganistan and Iraq at the same time without a major increase in troop strength, which would include re-instituting the draft. He didn’t want to do this for political purposes, so he chose to believe the “rosy scenario” instead.

    Rumsfield, who avoided service in Vietnam to go right into a government job at the White House during the Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush I and Bush II administrations, is an example of incompetence being rewarded by promotion in the Republican administrations.

    This is not the kind of support our servicemen and women need. Showing up at a mess hall in Iraq to eat a meal with the troops while the camera is rolling is a poor substitute for competence and caring. The reality is that he cares more for his own career and priviledges of position than he does for the troops under his care.

    And please note: “Supporting our Troops” is not the same thing as “Supporting Administration Policies”. I thought we had gotten rid of that a long time ago, when post-Vietnam we realized that blaming the troops for the Administration’s policies was a mistake. We started off okay in this war – supporting our troops regardless of how we felt about the wisdom of the war – but now the Bush administration, for partison political purposes, has again tried to equate “supporting our troops” onto “supporting the Bush administration”, by labeling anyone who disagrees with him as “not supporting our troops”. Its very bad public policy, because in the end its the troops that suffer. I finally had to remove the yellow ribbon off my car, because it has become equated with supporting Bush, rather than the troops. I’m looking for a bumber sticker which adequately makes the distinction.

  33. 661

    Correction: “City the size of Iraq” should obviously be “City the size of Baghdad”.

  34. 662

    Afghanistan is a country in violent chaotic turmoil where the government is helpless and no end is in sight.

    Iran is a country in violent chaotic turmoil where the government is helpless and no end is in sight.

    See what a success the Republicans have been? Who wouldn’t vote Republican this year? After all, next year they want to dismantle Social Security! Wheeeeee!

  35. 663

    JCH REP Kennedy: thanks for identifying yourself as a Sound Politics kook @19.

    And way to keep those Clinton Urban Legends alive! Why, they’re getting so old, you can’t even attibute the right fake quote to the right bogus source!

    Which is so typical for our favorite right wing troll / drunken performance artist.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. I’ll be there with parched lips.

I’m particularly looking forward to getting back on the podcast after the fogies boomers took it over last week. Betcha we speculate about tomorrow’s Supreme Court ruling on WA’s Defense of Marriage Act.

Oh… and if you happen to be a liberal drinker on the other side of the mountains I received an email from Jim this morning. Apparently it’s “freaking hot” out there so the Tri-Cities chapter of DL is meeting an hour later tonight, at 8 PM, Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd., in Richland.

Comments

  3. 666

    Spokane’s fine right now as long as you don’t have to be in the sun: 93 with low humidity. I’m out on the (covered) patio, and it’s just a little too warm for me, not unbearable. 104’s too hot regardless of the humidity.

  5. 668

    Maria Cantwell , has voted for every bomb bullet and rocket that Israel is waging an illegal war of agression with . It was bad enough to support the war in Iraq , sustain the killing that the brewing civil war is creating . What’s with this war gal Senator Cantwell anyway ??
    She says she has a plan , her boss Bush says things are going great . Meanwhile the “progressive base ” of Washington state lazily reaches for the low hanging fruit in their support for their war party candidate , Ms. Cantwell .
    Over 2500 dead U S troops , 100,000 dead Iraqi civilians , trillions stolen from social security to support this fiasco . If Maria is right then the dead must be wrong . Heck of a job , Maria , democrats are making a killing on the war .

  7. 670

    The African Connection: DEMOCRAT Rep. Jefferson and Joe Wilson

    The documents seized in the FBI raid on the offices of Rep. William Jefferson (DEMOCRAT-LA) remain unread by Justice Department investigators, pending a federal Appeals Court ruling scheduled for August 27. [snip] But we already know a bit about the charges and some of the alleged partners of Congressman Jefferson. Two people have pleaded guilty to bribing him.

    Now, Remember,
    Rep. William Jefferson, DEMOCRAT-La., who represents New Orleans, led a daring mission at the height of the flood crisis salvage his possessions and to be evacuated
    Jefferson went into the house alone, the source says, while the soldiers waited on the porch for about an hour. Finally, according to the source, DEMOCRAT Jefferson emerged with a laptop computer, three suitcases, and a box about the size of a small refrigerator, which the enlisted men loaded up into the truck.

  8. 671

    How many of you moonbats will be doing your part to combat “global warming” by walking or biking? Or at the very least taking an otherwise empty Metro bus?

    It would be very hypocritical for any of you to drive a vehicle with an internal combustion engine, and your gawd algore would be very disappointed in you. Don’t disappoint your gawd.

  9. 672

    Mark the Redneck @ 9

    “It would be very hypocritical…”

    Speaking of hypocritical…didn’t you have a bet with Goldy for $100? When are you going to make good on your bet, jackass?

  10. 673

    How many of you moonbats will be doing your part to combat “global warming” by walking or biking? Or at the very least taking an otherwise empty Metro bus?

    Yeah, the Metro buses are always empty. LOL! If you were any dumber, you could be classified as a plant.

  11. 674

    Would MTR be welcome at DL? I’m thinking about dropping by and meeting some of you.

  12. 675

    Mark the Retarded is such a cartoon character we should contact DC Comics and see if we can get him incorporated into one of there storylines. . .you know as . . .say DUMBSHIT MAN or some such.

  14. 677

    If Mark shows up without a crisp Ben Franklin, I’ll be happy to “baptize” him with whatever beer I’ve got in my hand. . . . . .

  15. 678

    MTR show up? Hell I might come if there’s a chance to call this fool a coward to his face!

  16. 679

    It’s hot in Tokyo, and very humid. About 32 celsius (90 fahrenheit), 95+% humidity. They say the rain is ending, right about the time I’m heading for home.

    My suite is a cotton-wool blend, like most of the ones we buy in Seattle. But in this weather I am very aware that it has too much wool, and not enough cotton in it. It’s fine for Seattle, but here it’s too hot.

    In a concession to global warming, the government has requested all offices (public and private) to raise their thermastats so less fuel is consumed. This means the average office temperture is about 85 degrees F. But they also get to dress “summer casual”, without wearing a coat and tie. If I had known that before I came, I would have left the suit at home entirely.

    I’m leaving in a few hours, about 4:00 PM flying to SF, then on a connecting flight to Seattle, arriving about 1:00 PM in Seattle – ON THE SAME DAY. Air travel and international date lines can be really interesting. Then to the office to check on things before going home.

    By the way, did you know there are bluegrass music bars in Tokyo????? All local (Japanese) musicians, who study it pretty seriously. Musically they are very good. But its a bit of a challenge for them to sing English lyrics with a southern accent, combined with the country wail that is the Bluegrass style. But one singer even managed a respectible yodel.

    I think I’ll pass on the “drinking liberally” tonight, as I’ll be in the air over the Pacific, I think.

  17. 680

    # 17 is by RHP6033. I didn’t realize that the cookie with my nickname wasn’t on this computer.

  18. 681

    By the way, did you know there are bluegrass music bars in Tokyo????? All local (Japanese) musicians, who study it pretty seriously. Musically they are very good. But its a bit of a challenge for them to sing English lyrics with a southern accent, combined with the country wail that is the Bluegrass style. But one singer even managed a respectible yodel.

    Bluegrass is tough to sing under the best of conditions, but when Japanese is your first language, it’s definitely not the best of conditions. Still, it sounds like a great experience for you.

    Safe travels.

  19. 682

    17 I presume they still provide you with stuff to eat and drink on international flights. It’s getting so bad that one expects them to announce that due to the rising cost of fuel the passengers are all going to have to climb out on the wings and fart.

    How wonderful it is to live in a “deregulated” world.

    Fly safe dude. You’ll be happy to know that the heat wave’s broken here (at least for the time being) and you’ll be nice and comfortable.

  20. 683

    5- Even Cantwell(D-Mexico,voted for NAFTA and CAFTA)gets one right once in awhile. Maybe she thought war would be good for American workers, just like NAFTA and CAFTA.

    I’ve yet to hear a liberal explain how NAFTA and CAFTA helped the working class. Guess you agree that Cantwell(D-Mexico, voted against building a fence on the Mexican border) is just a cheap labor corporate Dem.

  21. 684

    Didn’t Israel get attacked first by Hamas and then by Hezbollah? I guess that no matter what they do, they will be accused of being the agressor, because, you know, they really shouldn’t be there in the first place. You know that they stole all that territory. Even those hundreds of thousands who had been living in Jerusalem since the late 1800’s. And, yeah, they bought the rest, legally, but it was wrong of those Palestinians to sell it!

  22. 685

    Anonymous, Flying to Japan, and back?? What about fossil fuel comsuption? What about “global warming”? What about the “ozone hole”? Don’t you libs care about the environment? Don’t you listen to Al Gore? I’m amazed at the hypocrite lib Democrats whoall wish to “save the world” by passing laws and attacking capitalism, but, like the Kennedys, do as they wish because they are “special”. hehe, JCH Kennedy

  23. 686

    Hell, even I would come if I knew for sure that Redneck would show up! I’ve always wanted to meet Homer Simpson face to face, just to see what a real dork looks like up close and personal.

  24. 687

    I’m in my burrow counting my money! Even a hole in the ground is now worth half a million bucks in Seattle. And I don’t even own the land.

  25. 688

    The Accidental Revenue

    The Economist, a British newsweekly with a conservative slant, says George Bush deserves little or no credit for improving deficit figures.

    As has been reported elsewhere (and I’ve previously posted), the falling deficit is due entirely to surging revenue; Bush’s spending continues apace. And the increased revenue is coming from only two places: Corporate income taxes, and higher tax collections from CEOs raking in enormous salaries, bonuses, and stock options.

    Bush didn’t cut corporate taxes at all. As The Economist points out, the higher tax collections from corporations are because the share of the national economic pie going to corporate profits is at an all-time high.

    There has been no trickle down of this wealth to workers. Zip. Nada. None. Trickle-down is a myth.

    The Economist also notes that part of the improvement is due to the fact the Bush administration consistently overestimates deficits so the actual numbers will look better. And a deficit equal to 2.6% of GDP just before the baby boomers begin retiring is not a good thing. Finally, the recent improvement in the deficit won’t last; it will evaporate when Congress fixes the AMT (alternative minimum tax), which is rapidly overtaking what is now considered middle incomes because it was never indexed to inflation.

    The article is in the July 15th issue (with Putin’s picture on the cover), which is currently on local newsstands (but is not the current issue on the magazine’s web site). I didn’t link to the article because you have to pay to read it on the internet.

  26. 689

    Janet S — you’re back! And debating better than ever!

    I think you deserve an award for dumbing down the discussion about Lebanon by sketching a caricature of such overpowering simplicity.

    Take that, straw man! And that!

    Too bad you can’t (or won’t) rise above the easy duality. You present the argument as if there were a clear white and black, with no shades of gray. Indeed, you leave the impression that you think there are no differences of opinion among . . . leftists? Democrats? Non-conservatives? Non-Janets?

    That puts some of us who would appreciate a good discussion in a bad position. Should we engage a dialogue when you would rather beat your straw man? Or should we ignore you and hope you’ll go back to Sound Politics, where all of your favorite dualities can rest in peace?

    I’m busy on a writing assignment, so will opt for the latter. I hope you find someone who will take your bait.

  27. 690

    27

    “white and black”

    But that’s what wingers are all about. They see everything in terms of white or black, good vs. evil, textbook economics, oversimplifications. They can’t handle ambiguity or subtlety. Above all, they can’t handle the real world.

  29. 692

    I was merely responding to the simplistic liberal post in #5. Maria voted for the Iraq war, and voted to support Israel. I’m willing to bet it was a principled vote, and not pandering to the Jewish community in this state. I’m a republican. So what is your excuse for accusing her of all sorts of nastiness? After all, she is on your side.

  30. 693

    “After all, she is on your side.” — Janet S

    Maybe in your dualistic world there are only two sides. It must be very comfortable there, Janet. Heaven forbid you ever get involved in policy analysis.

    It is only fitting that you’d respond in kind to the caricatured rantings of spit. He’s the ideological flip side of you. His rhetoric is so one-dimensional that it could easily be mistaken for a troll under cover.

    A good straw man indeed.

  31. 694

    Like me, Janet probably works (or has worked) in business where you have to clear away the bullshit and make a decision. The decision has to be clear and unambiguous. You go ahead with the project or you don’t. You spend the money or you don’t. You go with plan A or plan B. You hire the person or you don’t. Through all the data collection and analysis there can be some ambiguity and fuzziness, but in the end, all that stuff gets accounted for and a decision is made.

    That’s what us conservatives do here. We understand the issues; in most cases far better than you do. We use our extensive education, superior intellect, knowledge of the basics, and a lifetime of experience to make judgements and take positions on the issues of the day.

    The problem you guys have with this is that it highlights your fuzzy thinking and lack of character that makes you moonbat democrats.

  32. 695

    Janet – Thumb likes to say “straw man”. He doesn’t know what the fuck it means, but he like the sound of it. To him, facts and data that disprove what he’s saying are “straw men”. I’m sure you’ve noticed… he’s a fucking idiot.

    Notice how he never puts up any data or analysis? He just spouts the moonbat party line and calls us names. That’s what they do when they can’t win the intellectual argument.

  33. 696

    1. Ms. Cantwell .
    Over 2500 dead U S troops , 100,000 dead Iraqi civilians , trillions stolen from social security to support this fiasco . If Maria is right then the dead must be wrong . Heck of a job , Maria , democrats are making a killing on the war .
    Commentby spitintheocean— 7/25/06@ 4:01 pm
    Well, well spit in the ocean what a name, what are you hiding from the World with a name like that? Your father name you Sue and you got your butt kick every day. That may be the reason you think like a wimp. The Last two wars that were World Wars the folks dying were in the millions and covered more than one continent. Today this War covers many continents, just as many countries are fighting the battle, and the lost souls are less than a million folks. Now the War is being fought in the Middle East and not in Seattle should make you feel safer. Now the Social Security only paid for LBJ War in Viet Nam the other Wars were paid from a different budget. Now last but not lease I really do not care how many fools die supporting this nation enemies, but I do care about those who want to make a better life for their countrymen. Maria is right about something but not all and shouldn’t be abandoned because members of her Socialist Democrat Party lack some common sense.

  34. 697

    I’m a lifelong democrat. And the “black and white” mindset is all coming from the wacko leftists in my own party.

    “Israel BAD. Hezbollah and Hamas GOOD”. What crap.

    It’s really sad when the people who are supposedly on my side of the political spectrum lie about history. More than likely, they’re simply ignorant. I’m starting to realize the old definition of liberlism – “open mindednesss” – no longer applies. Everyone sees what they want to see.

    Janet, I’ve read some vicious, “black and white” posts from you in the past. But on Israeli history, you seem to have most of your facts right. However, it cannot be denied that back in the 1880’s – 1890’s, and also in the 1920’s, the Zionist settlers were also comitting horendous acts of violence that, today, would be called “terrorist”.

    But it looks like hyperbole and distortion have won the day, from both sides.

    I really do believe it’s time for a viable third party.

  36. 699

    30

    Democrats don’t have “a side.” We’re many sides. That’s why we fight among ourselves so much. The Democratic Party is a big tent, and a bottom-up party in which ordinary citizens tell party leaders what they want, not the other way around as in the GOP.

  37. 700

    32

    “Like me, Janet probably works (or has worked) in business”

    How would you know? Are you fucking her?

  38. 701

    Shoephone, I haven’t seen any evidence of what you say, but have gotten an idea that there are stories out there about Zionist activities. Given where they were living, and who there neighbors were, I suspect that it was pretty evenly happening on both sides. Doesn’t excuse it, but then, I wasn’t there, and I don’t know what I’d do in such an environment.

    The one thing that is happening in all this is that the differences between Hamas and Hezbollah are becoming very clear. Hamas is a basket case and more on the side of those throwing rocks at tanks. No one wants the Palestinians, and this event is proving that to be even more evident. Almost makes me feel sorry for them. The Arab world has screwed them over since the founding of Israel, and they haven’t done much for themselves.

    On the other hand, Hezbollahs is very obviously an agent of Iran. They are much more sophisticated in tactics. But their cause is a bit fuzzy. They have no territorial claims on Israel. So their task here is provacateur. Israel has no option but to wipe them out.

  39. 702

    32

    “you have to clear away the bullshit and make a decision. The decision has to be clear and unambiguous. You go ahead with the project or you don’t. You spend the money or you don’t. You go with plan A or plan B. You hire the person or you don’t. Through all the data collection and analysis there can be some ambiguity and fuzziness, but in the end, all that stuff gets accounted for and a decision is made.”

    What a load of crap! Mark the Slide Rule (and bet welsher) wants us to believe everything goes according to plan in the private sector. He’s one of those business-can-do-no-wrong and government-can-do-nothing-wrong ideologues.

    He wants us to believe businesses never fuck up. Bullshit!

    Exhibit A – New Coke
    Exhibit B – The Kingdome (remember Peter Kiewet & Sons, and the sand jacks?)
    Exhibit C – Edsel

    Now let’s look at how a government employee (called a “cop”) makes decisions.

    He has to clear away the bullshit and make a decision about (a) what’s happening and (b) what to do about it. He has to make a clear and unambiguous decision — either arrest the subject (Plan A) or let him go (Plan B). After collecting all the information he can and figuring out what it means, there may be a great deal of ambiguity and fuzziness — not to mention loose ends and unanswered questions — but in the end, he has to make a decision that will stand up in court.

  41. 704

    We understand the issues; in most cases far better than you do.

    Yeah, so well you lost a bet. How much did you say I-912 was going to win by?

    lack of character

    then you welshed on the bet. Loser.

  42. 705

    Here’s an intersting idea. Eyman with his anti-Gay referendum claimed to have 80,000 or so signatures, but no one ever saw them. If Eyman is so good with his numbers, maybe he would allow someone to look over those petitions and see if he got the numbers right with them.

  43. 706

    I want to remind everyone that in a previous thread, MARK THE WELSHER asserted the Bush tax cuts have increased federal revenue.

    Disregarding FICA revenues, which weren’t affected by Bush’s tax cuts, federal revenue was:*

    2000 – $1,372,376,000,000 (baseline year)
    2001 – $1,297,063,000,000
    2002 – $1,152,413,000,000
    2003 – $1,069,364,000,000
    2004 – $1,146,664,000,000
    2005 – $1,279,114,000,000 (estimate)

    * Combination of individual and corporate income taxes, excise taxes, and other taxes (including inheritance tax)

    Source of data: http://www.taxpolicycenter.org.....?Docid=203

    As The Economist — a British newsweekly with a conservative slant — reports in its July 15 issue, the current surge in revenues is entirely due to tax collections on soaring corporate profits (which have reached an all-time high as a percentage of GDP) CEO incomes, and reflects a “growing disparity” between the shares of national income going to the capital-owning class and the producers of economic output (i.e., workers).

    It’s true, of course, that tax cuts can (in some circumstances) increase government revenue. If the tax rate is 100%, there will be no economic output, and tax collections will be zero.

    But it’s also true that tax increases can (in some circumstances) increase government revenue. If the tax rate is 0%, revenue will be zero, and raising the tax rate above zero will increase revenue to a sum greater than zero.

    Obviously, there’s a point somewhere between a 0% and a 100% tax rate where revenue is maximized. Equally obviously, if the existing tax rate is below that point, cutting the rate will result in further revenue loss. On the other hand, if the tax rate is above that point, a tax cut will stimulate more economic activity and result in increased government revenue.

    Other factors, of course, influence government revenues – the most important of which is the economic cycle. But in general, it appears federal taxation is below the revenue optimization point most of the time, so tax cuts ordinarily result in revenue losses, not the opposite. It certainly is NOT true — as WELSHER asserted — that cutting taxes ALWAYS increases revenues. That certainly wasn’t true in 2001-2003, the first three years of the Bush tax cuts for the rich. And the current increase in federal revenues is temporary, because Congress has yet to deal with the AMT (alternative minimum tax), which is raising millions more middle class families’ taxes every year, because it was never indexed to inflation. If Congress grants AMT relief to middle class taxpayers, revenues will resume their fall.

  44. 707

    Welsher may (or may not) have four degrees, but he doesn’t know SHIT about taxation economics.

  45. 708

    42

    “How much did you say I-912 was going to win by?” Commentby For the Clueless— 7/25/06@ 10:59 pm

    As I recall, WELSHER bet Goldy $100 that I-912 would win by 15 points. It lost by 10 points.

    While much of life is ambiguous and fuzzy, sometimes you just have to clear away the bullshit and make a decision. The decision has to be clear and unambiguous. When you lose a bet, you pay or you don’t. You go with plan A or plan B. Plan A is to preserve your honor and credibility by paying the bet. Plan B is be a fucking welsher. You can collect all the data and conduct all the analysis you want, but in the end, if you lose a bet and don’t pay — you’re a fucking welsher.

  46. 709

    Janet, I think you hit the nail on the head pretty in post #39. A lot of the mess we’re now dealing with has its origins in the actions of that wonderful scumbag Nasser.

  47. 710

    I see in the news that an equipment operator extracting peat moss from a bog in Ireland spotted “something” in the soil just beyond his backhoe’s bucket. It turned out to be a 20-page Book of Psalms in Latin that experts believe dates from about 800 to 1000 AD.

  49. 712

    “That’s what us conservatives do here. We understand the issues; in most cases far better than you do. We use our extensive education, superior intellect, knowledge of the basics, and a lifetime of experience to make judgements and take positions on the issues of the day. The problem you guys have with this is that it highlights your fuzzy thinking and lack of character that makes you moonbat democrats.” — MTR @ 32

    Let’s get this straight: MTR argues that all muslims should be exterminated. He denies that global warming via completely bogus “chi squared” argument. And yet he wraps himself in the flag of “superior intellect” and “character.”

    That’s truly amazing double speak. What’s even more amazing is that I’ve never seen fellow wingers such as Janet S ever question MTR’s most extreme statements.

    Apparently the wingers don’t care if “their side” looks positively insane.

  51. 714

    #48…so they turned up a medieval book in an Irish peat bog? Cool…and far less gruesome than the mummified bodies they find every now and then.

  52. 715

    Okay, I’m back in Seattle, “feet dry”. Managed to get changed to a direct flight at the last minute, they must have had a cancellation.

    I had to laugh at MTR’s comments, about how much easier it is for a Republican/Conservative to make decisions because they are “business people”. I guess its always easier to make decisions if you don’t want to be bothered with the facts. If MTR really is a business person, he’s probably Dilbert’s pointy-haired boss.

    I laughed out loud because it fit so well within H.L. Mencken’s famous quote “There is always an easy solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.” My guess is that MTR will pick the “neat, plausible, and wrong” solution every time, just because its not complicated.

    As for REP, who wondered why I was contributing to global warming by flying to and from Japan – just how would you get a new aircraft to Japan, without flying it out there???? And once there, how would you get back????? (By the way, the aircraft burned only 400 lbs of fuel an hour at 40,000 feet. Pretty efficient, as those things go. So by replacing older aircraft with newer ones, they are actually reducing emissions, etc., etc.)

  53. 716

    Not to worry. . .REP wouldn’t know anything about that. He washed out of flight school!

  54. 717

    53….Sorry, Al Gore would not agree. You are destroying the ozone and causing global warming! You must pay more taxes.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Well… almost every Tuesday. We didn’t meet last week because we were all patriotically drinking at various 4th of July parties. (And because the Ale House was closed.)

Anyway, I’m looking forward to a cold pint of Manny’s and a lively edition of Podcasting Liberally, also back after a one-week hiatus.

Oh… and if you happen to be a liberal drinker on the other side of the mountains, the Tri-Cities chapter of DL also meets Tuesday nights, 7 PM, Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd., in Richland. Go ask Jimmy for more details.

Comments

  2. 723

    We should allow the government to put all those undesirables, criminals, potential criminals, and of course parents of potential criminals, into Burlington Northern boxcars and not ask questions about where they go.

    Commentby rh— 7/11/06@ 11:20 am

    …………………………………………………………………………….rh, How about Cape Cod? Or the Kennedy compound? How about John Kerry’s townhome in Boston? [the one WITHOUT the fireplug?]

  3. 724

    “Roger Rabbit, Still investing in those ‘high Wage’ union controlled companies like GM, F, and Alcoa??” Commentby REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX]— 7/10/06@ 4:45 pm

    Alcoa reported 62% higher profits today.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit […………Alcoa missed revenue numbers. Common shares DOWN a point and a half. GET IT????]

  5. 726

    I’ll probably be able to show up. As good a spot to watch the All-Star Game as any.

  6. 727

    There’s grist for discussion all over the Ale House floor this week — including Connelly’s defense of Lieberman, the Lamagna-Wilson gambit in the Senate race, and the resurrection of Graham Hill Elementary … and what else?

    I won’t make this session, but then I never have much to say anyhow.

    I do have to say this —
    Former President Bill Clinton will appear with Rep. Jim McDermott, Monday 7/31, 7pm, Benaroya Hall.
    For tickets:
    http://www.mcdermottforcongres.....r.aspx#E52

    … BlogAds to follow.

  7. 728

    One liar helping another with his legal bills.. how perfectly chummy… and DULL.

    Spend your money in Bellevueinstead and have something to take home to show for your money!

  8. 729

    Tokyo – North Korea could be preparing for new launches of mid-range missiles after last week’s tests, with activity detected at its bases, a report said today citing Japanese government sources. US and Japanese satellite photos show that mid-range Rodong missiles had been set up on launch pads at a base in southeastern North Korea, but were later removed, /break/ fuel tanks could be seen near the launch pads. […………………………………………………………………………………..A closer “SATVIEW” shows Jim McDermott, Roger Rabbit, and Ted Kennedy pushing the Noprth korean missiles into launch position!]

  9. 730

    BOSTON –At least 12 tons of concrete fell from the ceiling of one of Boston’s Big Dig tunnels, crushing a woman in a car and again raising concerns about the integrity of the massive highway project that is the central artery through the city.

    A steel tieback that held a 40-foot ceiling section over Interstate 90 eastbound gave way late Monday night in the tunnel, a main access way to Boston’s Logan International Airport. The tunnel was closed indefinitely as crews worked to remove about 30 ceiling slabs in a 200-foot section where the collapse occurred, DEMOCRAT Authority Chairman Matthew Amorello said Tuesday. […………………………………………………………………………………..This is a lie!!!! This project [DEMOCRAT Tip O’Neil Tunnel] was pushed by Democrats, designed by Democrats, and built by Democrat unions!! DEMOCRATS Kerry and Kennedy PERSONALLY
    built this tunnel!! Any and all problems are Republican hate attacks!!!!!!!]

    Commentby REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX]— 7/11/06@ 12:44 pm

  11. 732

    3

    “Commentby Roger Rabbit […………Alcoa missed revenue numbers. Common shares DOWN a point and a half. GET IT????]” Commentby REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX]— 7/11/06@ 11:50 am

    Yeah, Craig, I get it — Alcoa’s profits are up ONLY 62% so investors are throwing a tantrum and dumping the stock. If shareholders had to settle for the 1.5% to 2.5% the workers get, there would be real carnage.

  12. 733

    Hey JCH — how much of the pie should go to capital, and how much to labor? Workers get only crumbs off the plate, and the tax code screws them, too. So why would anyone in their right mind want to work? Republicans think America’s “work ethic” is being undermined by declining morality. Wrong. It’s being undermined by:

    1) low pay
    2) lack of employer respect for worker loyalty
    3) unfavorable tax treatment of wages

  14. 735

    I can’t make it tonight–I have a mandatory work-related social function to attend. However, my wife has recovered well from her surgery, and hopefully one or both of us will be able to show up next week.

    Roger, you and Ann have a wonderful time. No, I don’t want to see the pictures.

  15. 736

    Roger at 13 – Are you coming around to the idea of repealing income taxes? Sounds good to me!

    Let’s blow off income taxes in favor of a national sales tax. Just think: no more April 15th headaches, no record keeping, no tax preparation industry. I like it!

  16. 737

    big dig; will ya’ll be discussion how the $14bb pissed away in boston is like the xx billion that ya’ll wanna piss away in seattle

  17. 738

    Roger Rabbit did not attend DL tonight, so all you NSA spooks on the stakeout can go home now.

  18. 739

    15

    “Roger, you and Ann have a wonderful time. No, I don’t want to see the pictures.” Commentby ArtFart— 7/11/06@ 3:22 pm

    I didn’t post that comment, an imposter did. Goldy deleted it at my request.

  19. 740

    16

    “Let’s blow off income taxes in favor of a national sales tax.”

    Over my dead body.

  20. 741

    A national sales tax is exactly what the poor and the average American family will need to put them all on the damn streets. What percentage of income would you like?

    10%? 15%?

    Add that to Washington State’s 8+%, throw in some Medicare and Social Security and you will see total devastation all over America on anyone not making 150 grand a year.

    Taxing consumption benefits the rich only, why do think Seattle has so many millionaires? Ya think they like the air? They love this damn state because they don’t pay any State Income Tax here.

  21. 742

    Taxing consumption benefits the rich only, why do think Seattle has so many millionaires? Ya think they like the air? They love this damn state because they don’t pay any State Income Tax here.

    Commentby sgmmac— 7/11/06@ 11:45 pm

    So why are YOU here?

  22. 743

    I like the trees, the climate and the rain. My home is Las Vegas and I thought it would be too expensive to retire there. The reality is my Dad in Vegas spends much less of his monthly income on things like gas, electricity, water, property taxes, etc than I do here in Lacey. Lacey is the city of trees, not that you would know it now. They are being clear cut by the hundreds for development.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

It’s a busy evening for me so I’m sure to be a little late. First I’m heading down to Renton for a King County Democrats fundraiser for Darcy Burner (5:30 pm to 7:00 pm, Renton Carpenters Hall, 231 Burnett AVE N… you’re all invited), before rushing back to Graham Hill Elementary School for the district’s site hearing on school closures. I’m guessing I won’t get to the Alehouse much before 9 pm.

If you happen to be a liberal drinker on the other side of the mountains, the Tri-Cities chapter of DL also meets Tuesday nights, 7 PM, Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd., in Richland. Go ask Jimmy for more details.

Comments

  2. 749

    Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL because of the pill-crazed wingfucks skulking at the corner table.

  3. 750

    Here’s another example of GOP “good government” —

    ‘Breathtaking’ Waste and Fraud in Hurricane Aid
    “By ERIC LIPTON, The New York Times

    “WASHINGTON (June 27) — Among the many superlatives associated with Hurricane Katrina can now be added this one: it produced one of the most extraordinary displays of scams, schemes and stupefying bureaucratic bungles in modern history, costing taxpayers up to $2 billion.”

    For complete story, see http://articles.news.aol.com/n.....4409990001

  4. 751

    roger…my little buttercup…..before you cast stones on the GOP perhaps you could use that tiny bunny-brain to think really hard about all the democrats in the katrina zone that never fixed any of the levees…..hmmmmm?

  7. 754

    4

    christmasidiot — who the fuck was IN CHARGE of the money and responsible for OVERSIGHT? What do you think will happen when there is NO MANAGEMENT?

    Short answer: Don’t expect Republicans to manage anything; they’re only good for blaming their failures on others. (Man that sounds like a lot of bosses and managers I’ve worked for, too.)

  8. 755

    4

    P.S., I’m not your “little buttercup!” I’m a large virile rabbit with an insatiable reproductive instinct, and if you want to suck my dick you’ll need a reservation. For a good time, call 1-800-SUK-ROGR.

  13. 760

    Can any of you wingbats explain how the fuck the government is gonna read the flag burner’s mind? Or are they just gonna prosecute everybody who burns a flag? You know, do monthly sweeps of VFW and American Legion halls …

  16. 763

    16

    Lucky for our trolls the amendment was defeated, because they desecrate the flag every time they open their unpatriotic, America-hating mouths.

  17. 764

    Roger, you have too much time on your hands and too little to share besides vitriol. Get a life. Sure, republican leaders are liars and crooks, and too many republican loyalists are idiots. Give it a rest. Your repetitious posts don’t add much, really, ever. They detract. What, you want to come off like a republican with all this manic, paranoidal, compulsive posting like anything you write has real importance? You write like a pot-head. I’ll lay odds, you’re doing pot right now. Suck it in hard and hold it in as long as you can, man, as if your high is anything more than psycho-babble.

  19. 766

    Just wondering… how many of you will be walking, hopping, riding a bike, or an otherwise empty metro bus to DL? I mean… c’mon… your god Algore told you that you gotta do something about solar warming. Least you can do is make a half assed attempt at something is stoopid as DL.

    Let me know how that goes…

  20. 767

    14 – The same way they do hate crimes. Tell me how that works mister paralegal?

  23. 771

    I say ban flag burning in public. The lefties pass hate crimes so that give us the right to make flag burning a hate crime. What, you lefties dont like. Fuck You!! Hehe

  24. 772

    Morooon@25 That’s so typically NeoConvict. . .Destroy a core Constitutional Right to satisfy a partisan hissy-fit. You Go, Rufus! A Real poster child for the knuckledragging rightwingnuts. .

  25. 773

    23 – He’s off script. He’s never supposed to say global warming – he’s supposed to say “climate change”. That is unless turdblossom told him the bullshit wasn’t working.

  26. 774

    26

    If you want to burn a flag do it on your own property not the publics. You have as much right to burn a flag in public as you do a cross.

  27. 775

    HARRY THE THE ONLY THING WARMING IS YOU BRAIN FROM SNIFFIN ALL THAT AIRPLANE GLUE.FUCKING IDIOT

  28. 776

    SO GOLDY IS RUNNING DOWN TO RENTON TO GET A LITTLE SNIFF OF DARCY.I THINK GOLDY HAS AN INTERNAL HARD ON FOR DARCY AND IS FUCKIN HIMSELF TO DEATH.

  29. 777

    Oh, goody, uor little genetic anomaly is back. How are things out there in wingnut fantasyland,Y’O (Trailer park Yahoo)? .

  30. 778

    Y’O has to be forgiven for always typing in captals. . .he hasn’t quite figured ou that new-fangled keyboard thing. . .he’s so used to sending his messages with a ‘talking drum’.

  31. 779

    Why, just the other day, Y’O was telling Mark The Retarded Redneck that he was starting to get the hang of this new technology. . . fire!

  32. 780

    We told Y’O’s more intelligent twin not to look up when it was raining, but he did anyway. . .and drowned when he forgot to close his mouth.

  33. 781

    28

    Dufus, you’ve raised an interesting point — why is flag burning protected as “free speech,” while cross burning is not? Here is the answer:

    “Virginia Attorney General Jerry Kilgore commented, ‘A burning cross is a symbol like no other. It doesn’t just say, ‘We don’t like you.’ The message is, ‘We are going to do you harm.'”

    http://www.law.com/jsp/article.....8518258780

    In other words, cross burning conveys a threat, while flag burning conveys only protest, dissent, or disrespect. Cross burning implies violence to come; flag burning does not. The First Amendment has never protected threatening speech.

  34. 782

    Roger, it’s my understanding that in Washington we do not recognize “Fighting Words”. Is that so?

  35. 783

    It should be pointed out that the 2002 Supreme Court decision that upheld state laws against cross burnings which are intended to intimidate, also said a cross burning at a KKK rally is protected free speech.

  36. 784

    36

    Not so.

    The “fighting words” doctrine essentially says that epithets or insults which incite violence are not protected speech. This is an oversimplification; there is a complicated legal test.

    The issue typically comes up in the context of prosecutions under assault, harassment statutes, or disorderly conduct laws. This is most likely to occur as a violation of a municipal ordinance.

    An illustrative case is Seattle v. Camby, 104 Wn.2d 49, 701 P.2d 499 (1985), which involved a prosecution under Seattle’s harassment ordinance of a restaurant patron who invited a bouncer to “step outside” so he could “kick your ass” and threatened to return later if the bouncer didn’t step outside. Based on the specific facts of the case, the Court of Appeals ruled the defendant’s conduct was unlikely to result in a breach of the peace, and reversed his conviction. However, this decision leaves no doubt that Washington follows the U.S. Supreme Court doctrine that “fighting words” are not protected free speech and can be grounds for a criminal conviction.

    http://www.mrsc.org/mc/courts/.....2d0049.htm

  38. 786

    18

    Reading blog comments is a voluntary activity. If you don’t like my comments, why do you read them?

  39. 787

    Along the same lines, Roger, I was introduced to the following line of reasoning in the Navy: Incitement to Riot (a chargeable offense) is never a defense against Riot (another chargeable offense).

  40. 788

    And if you really want to get into it, you can research whether there is a “duty to retreat” before claiming “self defense”. In other words, if you are really faced with an imminent threat of death or injury and you have an avenue of retreat open, are you required to retreat rather than assault or kill the person who is threatening you? Hint: there is no “duty to retreat” in Texas (big surprise, huh?)

  41. 789

    Does the “purely moral tone(d)” Gore speak “from a sense of conviction?”

    The man
    -flew a personal jet to the Kyoto Conference burning 70,737 gals of fuel

    -was caught campaigning on Air Force II from April 1999 to May 2000 flying 375 logged hours burning 1,207,125 gallons of kerosene

    -was documented at Cannes debuting his new movie while he and his entourage used five vehicles to go five hundred meters from the Carton Hotel to the Palace where the film was shown.

    -was also spotted and photographed arriving at the Sierra Club convention in San Francisco on 9/09/05 in a Cadillac Escalade of his choosing on the occasion of giving another in a his long string of speeches accusing normal people of abusing his sensibilities by using wasteful fuel strategies like driving large SUVs.

    -never been observed outside a photo op alighting his corpulent being from a Prius or anything similar.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. I’m coming straight from our school’s PTA meeting, so you can be sure I’ll be needing a drink.

If you happen to be a liberal drinker on the other side of the mountains, the Tri-Cities chapter of DL also meets Tuesday nights, 7 PM, Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd., in Richland. Go ask Jimmy for more details.

Comments

  2. 791

    Stefan, why didn’t you share the windfall from your lawsuit against Dean Logan and King County with the generous donors to your “legal action fund” who paid for the lawsuit?

  4. 793

    Looking at photos of National Guard units rolling into N’awlins (for the uninitiated, that’s how New Orleans lightheartedly often spell their city name), how do you folks like the ‘Police State’ that Nagin and Blanco have created for every day crime patrol?
    We’re expecting you guys to scream any minute about it.

    ….waiting….

  5. 794

    President Bush thinks we should stay in Iraq forever, as far as the eye can see. He’s said it himself. He says, ‘Getting out of Iraq is up to presidents who come after me.’ I don’t agree. That’s too long. I don’t know if we’ll be able to get our troops out of Iraq in 6 months or even a year. But I want to start working on getting them home as soon as I get into office. And staying in Iraq for at least three more years, like President Bush wants, is too long.

    Congressman Reichert is with President Bush on this. More rubber stamps. More blank checks. I disagree.

    We’ve got too many challenges around the world to keep burning through money and our men and women in uniform just because President Bush isn’t man enough to admit that his policies aren’t working.

  6. 795

    From the Far-Left Echo Chamber at KOS: “So our boys were tortured—HOW QUAINT.”

    This is why America doesn’t trust the ‘patriotism’ of the left. They think we’re the bad guys.

  7. 796

    Why not make Iraq a state? Then they can send corrupt Republican congressmen to D.C., too! And wouldn’t it be great to see a photo of a GOP caucus meeting with some guys wearing tablecloths mugging the camera? ha-ha-ha

  9. 798

    twilight zone @ 4

    I seem to recall that something like half of the police force did not return. What are they supposed to do when crime spikes?

  10. 799

    From the Far-Left (sic) Echo Chamber at KOS: “So our boys were tortured—HOW QUAINT.”

    This is why America doesn’t trust the ‘patriotism’ of the left. They think we’re the bad guys.

    To borrow from Paul Harvey… and now, the rest of the story:

    Here is the full diary,

    The bodies of the two captured U.S. soldiers were found in Iraq – bearing signs of “barbaric torture.”

    How quaint.

    I hope Alberto Gonzales and John Yoo will sleep well tonight, with visions of those boys’ bodies and the horrible barbarities inflicted upon them dancing in their heads. Perhaps Gonzales, and Yoo, and Rumsfeld and Bush will be able to envision the same inhumanities being visited upon their family members and loved ones as they drift off to peaceful slumber.

    This cannot stand. We cannot allow this administration and its incomprehensible defense of and support for torture in violation of the “quaint” Geneva Conventions to remain.

    The chickens have come home to roost. As ye sow, so shall ye reap.

    I weep for my country, and for the families and loved ones of those in Iraq and Afghanistan, those yet living and those already dead.

    Peace.

    Yes, according to the administration, the Geneva conventions are “quaint.” When we refuse to treat our enemies according to the rules of war, we undermine our moral authority to condemn the mistreatment our our soldiers, and the diarist was calling attention to that.

    The kind of misleading attack twilight zone engaged in here is the reason the country is turning away from right-wing extremism.

  11. 800

    twilight zone,

    Got a link, or do you believe every bit of Bullcrap that Limbaugh pukes into your ears?

  12. 801

    6

    I just read DailyKOS and didn’t find such a comment, although if it’s there you can bet the wingnut liar @6 quoted it out of context — the only people who think torture is “quaint” are Republicans, who themselves are practitioners of it.

    But I did find this:

    “Republicans defeated a Democratic measure calling for an investigation into waste and fraud in military contracts today …. By a 52-to-44 vote, the Senate rejected the proposal by Senator Byron L. Dorgan, Democrat of North Dakota, calling for a panel like the one led by Harry Truman when he was a Senator, which uncovered many abuses in military spending during World War II. Mr. Dorgan said that military spending is the worst it has ever been ‘right now — right now! I think the American taxpayers are being fleeced.'”

    For decades, Republicans have whined about “waste, fraud, and abuse” in government. So what do they do? They vote against investigating waste, fraud, and abuse in government.

    I also found this:

    “Republicans kill troops,”

    which is true; and also this:

    “I’ve asked this before, but what is it about the relatives of people killed by terrorists that these wingnuts hate so much? Recall that Ann Coulter smeared the widows of 9/11 victims and that many righty bloggers smeared the father of Nick Berg, who was beheaded in Iraq. Their sin, of course, was that they criticized America and George Bush. Let me put this as clearly as I can: To (wingnuts), the pain of those who lost loved ones to this war only matters to the extent that the bereaved allow their grief to be used to prop up the war effort and Bush himself. If the bereaved relatives don’t allow their grief to be used in this fashion, their sacrifice and loss no longer matter a whit — they’re not to be pitied or empathized with, but scorned and humiliated as brutally as possible. Despicable. Everything is viewed by partisan lenses by these people. And those who don’t slot nicely into the ‘Bush is the greatest and infallible!’ camp must be viciously attacked. They are really, really, ugly people.”

    which also is true, and beneath contempt.

  13. 802

    Hey, why don’t we talk about what someone on Kos thinks of tortured American soldiers?

    “CNN reports that Dubai is still controlling the ports, and that Congress silently killed legislation that would have helped ensure the ports stay American-owned. Lou Dobbs thinks the Republican Congress and the Bush White House have played a fast one on the American people.“

  14. 803

    10

    I was right — the wingnut liar @6 quoted out of context.

    Here is why the insurgents torture our guys: Because we torture their guys. Payback.

    Now … would you wingnuts like to know why your torturing Iraqis was a bad fucking idea?

  16. 805

    The right-wingers who support torture are responsible for the horrific deaths of those two G.I.s. How do you bastards think the families feel — getting back the bruised, headless bodies of their sons? You fuckers are responsible for this.

  18. 807

    personally, I’m fine with the tanks in N’awlins. It’s the left that screams at heavy-handed attempts at law and order. Look at WTO–they thought THE POLICE were the bad guys ! c’mon, you all know I’m right.

    and TJ, the difference between far-left echo-chamber KOS and the rest of the country is tha the KOS-readers think that America is the bad guy. Don’t even try to deny it. WHO is acting more often (in fact, FAR more often) according to Geneva conventions? American soldiers, or Al Qaeda terrorists who routinely blow up families in pizza parlors for fun? Hint, if you say Al Qaeda terrorists, you’re wrong. KOS folk actually believe that America is the same or more evil than Al Qaeda. Everyone kind of sees that in you, and that’s why democrats are not trusted with national defense.
    The KOS entry is an excuse to yet again say that America is the bad guy, when normal people know that we are the ones uprooting a creep like Saddam while you guys make excuses for him and his rape rooms. You never blame Al Qaeda for anything that they do—everything of which has not one bit of regard for anything like Geneva conventions. In fact, nothing they do does. They hide behind women and children, and they fire from Mosques. They know what rules our guys have to fight under, and they do everything chicken little thing opposite of it they can, to gain an edge. Then, as they shoot from the Mosque and put little kids in front of them, they cry “Those bad Americans—look at them. So evil (while hoping they score more points with the American left, because they know that you are their REAL weapons.)

    Truth is tough, but someone’s gotta tell it to you.

  19. 808

    Here’s something to podcast liberally about: look what happens when Bush watches something besides Fox News:

    Bush to Create World’s Largest Marine Protected Area Near Hawaii

    President Bush today will create the world’s largest marine protected area, a total of 140,000 square miles of Pacific Ocean surrounding a necklace of islands and atolls that stretch from the main Hawaiian Islands to Midway Atoll and beyond, senior administration officials said.

    The decision is a turnaround for the administration, which five years ago considered stripping more limited protections from the area that President Clinton had declared a coral reef ecosystem reserve. It’s also a sharp departure for an administration that has pushed to privatize some federal lands and has designated less wilderness than most presidents over the last 40 years.

    A turning point came in April, when Bush sat through a 65-minute private White House screening of a PBS documentary that unveiled the beauty of — and perils facing — the archipelago’s aquamarine waters and its nesting seabirds, sea turtles and sleepy-eyed monk seals, all threatened by extinction.

    The film seemed to catch Bush’s imagination, according to senior officials and others in attendance. The president popped up from his front-row seat after the screening; congratulated filmmaker Jean-Michel Cousteau, son of the late underwater explorer Jacques Cousteau; and urged the White House staff to get moving on protecting these waters.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/na.....-headlines

  20. 809

    18

    We don’t think “America” is the bad guy. We think wingnut liars like you are the “bad guys.” There’s a difference.

  22. 811

    The KOS entry is an excuse to yet again say that America is the bad guy

    No, it is not, and your confusion on this point reveals a lot about the extremist right-wing. The diarist was criticizing the nation’s leadership, not the nation. Unfortunately, the authoritarian cultists of the right can’t see the difference.

  23. 812

    Mr Berg can grieve his son and will get our condolences.

    Up until he starts spouting talking points that cannot be countered because of his status as a grieving father.

    At that point he becomes another talking head.

    Yeah, that makes those who don’t play along “mean” and “evil.”
    But we’ve always been called that (or worse) so leave the talking points to the politicos

  24. 813

    ..20–then how come NOBODY CHEERED (and some BOOED) when Hillary told Take Back America crowd they really ought to support the troops??????????

  25. 814

    22

    Don’t make excuses for these guys; “twilight zone” is not confused, he’s a fucking liar.

  26. 815

    why did leftists (who probably read KOS, betcha they do) try to block military shipments for Iraq????? Were they supporting the troops????? The troops don’t think so.

  27. 816

    While you are at “Drinking Liberally”, be sure to record the Frontline episode “The Dark Side” being broadcast tonight on your local PBS station at 10:00 P.M. It’s a 90-minute expose on Cheney and Rumsfield’s manipulation of the U.S. intelligence apparatus to justify the invasion of Iraq.

    “The apparent circularity of the pro-war machinations is especially disturbing. Then-New York Times reporter Judith Miller would get off-the-record info from the White House about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, print the claims in Sunday’s paper, and then Cheney, Condoleezza Rice and others would cite the articles as evidence on the Sunday talk shows to justify the invasion.”

    Source: http://archives.seattletimes.n.....=frontline

  28. 817

    Ah yes, I was wondering when the environmental Bush would be mentioned.

    That’s probably a very good thing that GWB did in Hawaii. The fishemen don’t like it, but they must not be big contributors.

    It doesn’t make up for gutting enforcement of clean air laws, for increasing the amount of arsenic that can be in drinking water, nor any of the other environmental outrages of the past 6 years.

    But the campaign ads will look very nice, I’m sure.

  30. 819

    24.

    A lie. The unenhanced audio tape has applause at her support the
    troops statement, and a few calls of “bring them home”, which is
    the best support the troops could ever get.

  32. 821

    PENTAGON CLASSIFIES HOMOSEXUALITY AS “MENTAL DISORDER”

    The Associated Press reported today:

    “WASHINGTON (June 19) – A Pentagon document classifies homosexuality as a mental disorder, decades after mental health experts abandoned that position.

    “The document outlines retirement or other discharge policies for service members with physical disabilities, and in a section on defects lists homosexuality alongside mental retardation and personality disorders.”

    http://articles.news.aol.com/n.....8;cid=2194

  33. 822

    31.

    Not trying to convice twilight zone, he’s just another alias of
    Kevin Carns.

    Lies from the lying liars must be identified, if only to let the liars know that we know, for a fact, they are lying liars.

    Their metal illnesses give them no license.

  34. 823

    Roger, get a job or some volunteer work to keep you busy. You spend too much time here.

  35. 824

    “WHO is acting more often (in fact, FAR more often) according to Geneva conventions? American soldiers, or Al Qaeda terrorists who routinely blow up families in pizza parlors for fun?”
    You seem to be asking: “who is acting “more often” according to the Geneva Conventions: the drafters and signatories to the Convention, for whom they are the “law of the land” according to the Constitution, or the citizens in the nation that the former invaded and occupied?” Hmmm, tough question indeed.

    “Hint, if you say Al Qaeda terrorists, you’re wrong.”
    Hint: if you think the al-Qaeda of Usama bin Laden is operating in Iraq, you’re certainly wrong, despite Zarqawi’s renaming of his organization (formerly Jama’at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad, or Monotheism and Holy War). Bn Laden condemns Zarqawi’s killing of Muslims, for example.

    “KOS folk actually believe that America is the same or more evil than Al Qaeda.”
    KOS folk (and, I think, Democrats) believe that our nation can and should operate under a somewhat a higher moral and legal standard than al Qaeda.

    “Everyone kind of sees that in you, and that’s why democrats are not trusted with national defense.
    Except during World War II, the Korean War, the
    Cuban Missile Crisis, Vietnam….

    “we are the ones uprooting a creep like Saddam while you guys make excuses for him and his rape rooms.”
    Who’s we, Kimo Sabe? When was your tour of duty?

    “You never blame Al Qaeda for anything…They hide behind women and children, and they fire from Mosques.”
    You seem to be confusing al Qaeda with the insurgency in Iraq. They’re not the same thing. You’d think someone like you who fought there would know this.

    “They know what rules our guys have to fight under, and they do everything chicken little thing opposite of it they can, to gain an edge. Then, as they shoot from the Mosque and put little kids in front of them, they cry “Those bad Americans—look at them. So evil (while hoping they score more points with the American left, because they know that you are their REAL weapons.)”
    Actually, what the insurgents mostly do is blow up car bombs. Holing up in a mosque is pretty rare for them. The car bomb is their weapon of choice, and the president has pretty much said that we don’t have an answer for them, but we’re going to to stay there anyway, never increasing our troop strength or drawing it down, for the rest of his presidency. Throwing treasure and lives down a rat hole of an insoluble insurgency endlessly doesn’t sound like a plan to me. Why does it sound like one to you?

  36. 825

    Topics for tonight’s Drinking Liberlly will be:

    1) Why, given the lethality of the jihad terrorists, do we leftists pretend that some kind of “peace” can be made with them? Why are we leaving the battlfield with this terrifying dragon to the right? What happened to our courage?

    2) What happened to the great progressive ideas we cherish, ideas that were destined to change the world for the better, that we have degenerated into foul-mouthed spwewers of hatred, vulgarity and unceasing fetor? Is there nothing noble in our ideas and ideals left? Why are we such inelegant sewer dwellers?

  37. 826

    das

    “Why, given the lethality of the jihad terrorists, do we leftists pretend that some kind of “peace” can be made with them?”
    Umm, who’s saying (or “pretending,” if you will) that? The progessives and liberals I know say things like:

    1. bin Laden wasn’t allied with Saddam and Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, so WTF are we doing there?
    2. The 20th century experience has been that absent brutal repression a la Tibet or the Iron Curtain countries, occupation DOES NOT WORK, and occupiers are driven out eventually by the implacable resistance of the inhabitants.
    3. Terrorism isn’t a group, it’s a tactic, and the best way to make sure that NEW terroists are not created as you confront the current ones (and we DO confront the current ones) is to improve conditions in their environments. When more are created all the time, you can’t just kill them all no matter how bloodthirsty and cruel you make your nation become.
    4. Confronting and defeating terrorists according to the liberal view would include things like capturing bin Laden. Too vbad that for those in power it does not.

  38. 827

    das @ 36
    Why is it that the chestpounding, macho, let’s-go-kick-some-terrorist-ass, rightwingers are so scared that they’re willing to give up their civil liberties for some false sense of security? Is freedom so unimportant to you cowards that you’ll let the government listen to our every conversation, walk into our homes without knocking, intercept our emails, and whatever else its doing just on the offchance that somehow such snooping will prevent some act of terrorism? What motivates you purveyors of faux values to canonize filth like Ann Coulter while claiming to understand the Gospel? Is this nation so unimportant to you that you would tear it apart and destroy it just to satisfy your partisan wet dreams? How can conservatives, who used to laud individualism, worship at the altar of George W. Bush, blindly following his every whim while refusing to recognize that he was never anything special? Conservatives used to have something to offer. Now, they would be just silly annoyances, except for the irreparable harm they are rendering upon the nation.

  39. 828

    Roger, I’ll take the bait……. Is it inherited, is it genetic, is it choice?

    What is homosexuality? Where does it come from? Is it normal mating behavior?

    Inquiring minds want to know!

  40. 829

    proud leftist and all you left wing cowards.make sure you pull up your panty hose before you cut and run,dont want you to fall and hurt yourself.you guys would not make a good pimple on a service person ass.proud leftist you are the wet dream.losssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssser

  41. 830

    i see the queen criisy polls are down.so lets here all you moon bats come up with the 500 reasons the poll is not true.lossssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssers

  43. 832

    sgmmac

    You should ask the AMA and the American Psychiatric Association, who removed homosexuality from its list of mental illnesses 30 years ago.

    That said, there is some recent evidence of differences in the brains of homosexuals and heterosexuals, which bolsters the hypothesis that it is innate.

  44. 833

    26

    “why did leftists (who probably read KOS, betcha they do) try to block military shipments for Iraq????? Were they supporting the troops????? The troops don’t think so.” Commentby twilight zone— 6/20/06@ 2:33 pm

    why did righties (who probably read Ann Coulter, betcha they do) refuse to send body armor and vehicle armor to our troops in Iraq????? Why is Cher holding fundraisers to buy helmets for our troops in Iraq? Are the righties supporting the troops????? The troops don’t think so.

  45. 834

    34

    “Roger, get a job or some volunteer work to keep you busy. You spend too much time here.” Commentby Yossarian— 6/20/06@ 2:55 pm

    I don’t spend nearly enough time here, because you’re still here.

  46. 835

    36

    You forgot this one:

    3) In an effort to understand why all wingnuts are such fucking liars, we will examine the mental pathologies that often accompany cases of advanced syphillis.

  47. 836

    Again, the right-wing is trying to paint the Democrats as less than patriotic, less manly, for not engaging in a knee-jerk reaction to terrorists in Iraq.

    Of course, this ignores the fact that Bush is doing exactly what Bin Laden wanted him to do. For years Bin Laden had been going around the middle east, arguing that Americans were evil, that they wanted to occupy arab countries to steal their oil, and that they despised muslims and engaged in torture. His efforts met with only limited success (measured in terms of recruits), because most of those in the Middle East looked around, and didn’t see any Americans trying to steel their oil or kill them.

    He finally goads Bush into action. Even the Muslim world accepts the war in Afganistan, because the Taliban had become an embarrassment to them, also. Foreign fighters recruited by Bin Laden to fight the Americans in Afganistan were perpelexed and dis-illusioned when they found themselves not fighting the Americans, but instead fighting other Muslims.

    But then Bush gets into Iraq, and the situation reverses itself. Iraq becomes the main propoganda point, and recruiting tool, for thousands of Al Quida fighters from around the Middle East. Bin Laden points to the permanant bases we are building there, and challenges young Saudis, Kuwaitis, Jordanians, and Palestinians to come free the land from the clutches of the crusaders.

    Bush and company should understand this – its basically the same Karl Rove strategy which they have used in the past several elections. Whether using gay marriage or 9/11, they gather emotional support from their base by pointing to these outside “threats”.

    In fact, I’m beginning to wonder if Bush and Bin Laden don’t really need each other to exist. Bin Laden would essentially be a broken-down hermit, without support, if not for Bush’s war in Iraq. Bush would probably not have won the 2004 election if not for Bin-Laden’s “October Surprise” videotape, released within hours of the last Presidential debate.

    Perhaps the worst thing that could happen to Bush, politically, is for Bin Laden to be captured or killed?

  48. 837

    John Carlson has a great discussion on about the KOS “Quaint” column. Loved when he said that the Left is claiming “we had it coming” (funny, but that’s what they said (esp. Bill clinton) about 9-11, too), and essentially sounding as though they believe that Al Qaeda was acting all hearts and flowers and honorably until the United States showed up. Sorry, Al Qaeda had NEVER been a good and gracious organization. They are TERRORISTS. Not U.S. soldiers who get imprisoned when they wrong a P.O.W.

    The guy who killed these soldiers will not be put in jail by his peers.
    He will be celebrated.
    Still can’t tell the difference between a U.S. soldier and an Al Qaeda terrorists? Then I’m sorry for you. And you’ll continue to excuse terrorists time after time after time. And you’ll still be wondering why you guys aren’t trusted to defend America. Well, when you make no distinction between your own good country and Al Qaeda, then you never will be trusted to defend America, because you believe it is evil.

  49. 838

    39

    Homosexuality appears to have existed in most if not all human societies throughout record history, suggesting it is not a purely learned behavior or cultural phenomenon. Also, homosexuality is not confined to homo sapiens; scientists have observed homosexual behavior among many animal species, lending further credence to arguments that homosexuality is a product of biology. However, to date, scientists have not agreed on a specific biological mechanism (or mechanisms) to explain variant sexual orientatiion. For a more detailed discussion of the biological evidence and theories, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.....rientation

  50. 839

    39

    We also have the anecdotal evidence of gays who tell us they didn’t choose to be homosexual.

  51. 840

    39

    Since sexual drive can (and does) vary among individual humans, it stands to reason that it also could be reversed in some humans.

  53. 842

    John Carlson has a great discussion on about the KOS “Quaint” column. Loved when he said that the Left is claiming “we had it coming”

    So you’re saying John Carlson is an illiterate fool? Thanks. I won’t waste any more time on him.

  54. 843

    You guys seem hard-pressed to acknowledge that our military is 99.9% (or more) of the time acting according to Geneva conv. And how often is it that Al Qaeda conforms to same???? The insurgency, if you want to call it (those are Al Qaeda people, but who cares–they’re beheaders, nonetheless)–how often do they fight and act toward their P.O.W.s according to Geneva?????

  55. 844

    48

    Liberals never claimed America “had it coming.” You seem to be forgetting the two cities hit by Al Qaeda — New York and Washington, D.C. — vote overwhelmingly Democratic, and a lot of people who considered themselves liberals died on those planes and in those buildings.

    twilight zone, you are a disgusting scumbag liar. Why do you hate Americans, you fucking traitor?

  56. 845

    @51 THERE IS HOPE FOR YOU AFTER ALL.I HEARD THAT ROGER GOES FOR THE POWDERED SOAP IT TAKES LONGER TO PICK UP.

  57. 846

    I doubt very much Carlson said that. Carlson is an idiot, but he’s not that big an idiot.

  58. 847

    56

    Well, obviously something is reversed in you. You can’t even spell your own name.

    “Yo” is a contraction of “yahoo” (as in “trailer park yahoo”) and is properly spelled “Y’o.” Y’o, like Stefan, can’t even spell his own fucking name.

  59. 848

    ROGER RABBIT RIDDLE

    Q: What do you call someone who tries to put his dick in his mouth and his thumb in his ass?

    A: A dyslexic Republican.

  60. 849

    55–Al Qaeda doesn’t care who’s liberal and who’s not!! The left was sqawking that we had it coming. Bill Clinton was singing that song to a bunch of college kids at Georgetown. it was appalling! And here we go again—no criticism of the terorists who didn’t seem to have Geneva convention on their mind before they killed our two soldiers! NONE! It’s always–well, we deserved it. Look at what the U.S. has done! We’re evil, etc. can we all just see a little disgust at Al Qaeda from you all??? It would help your cause.

  61. 850

    54

    Beat you to it — I posted that a couple weeks ago. So now you’ve stooped to copying and pasting Roger Rabbit?

  62. 851

    ..or should I say, Al Qaeda doesn’t care who’s liberal and who’s not when they bomb Americans! That’s been made pretty by now

  66. 855

    Kevin Carns @62

    Hey Kevin, you unpatriotic fuck — what do you think of the fact that U.S. troops in Iraq booed Hillary Clinton for saying she opposes immediate withdrawal?

  67. 856

    ..still hoping to someday hear leftists complain about how evil the terrorists are. We just don’t hear it.

  69. 858

    67

    Of course the terrorists are evil! THE TERRORISTS ARE EVIL!!! Does that do it for you? Now it’s my turn:

    REPUBLICANS ARE EVIL, TOO

  70. 859

    ..still hoping to someday hear leftists complain about how evil the terrorists are. We just don’t hear it.

    Read this slowly. Read it again if you have to (you will).

    The left and the right both believe the terrorists are evil people. We disagree over the question of how to combat them.

  71. 860

    The military should act in accordance with the Geneva Convention 100% of the time. If, to take a purely hypothetical example, it was ever deemed necessary to take the extreme measure of torturing a prisoner it should be done by an organization outside of the military, known to be capable of keeping state secrets ie. if anyone ever discovered it they wouldn’t live to tell the tale.

    In other words, Sp4s shouldn’t be running around whooping it up over attacking a prisoner, complete with digital photos.

    Just like before 2001.

  72. 861

    Sophomoric twits do not control the debate here. Posing false choices is grade-school type debating.

    If combatants are captured, regardless of how evil they may be, captors in the US military should not harm them unless they become violent or try to escape.

  73. 862

    PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS!!!

    Roger Rabbit mailed a $99 donation to Operation Helmet to buy a deluxe helmet upgrade kit for one U.S. soldier serving in Afghanistan or Iraq!

    Now let’s see you wingfucks who bray about how patriotic you are do the same thing. Put your money where your mouth is! I did! If Roger Rabbit can do it, so can you.

    The fact Cher endorsed this charity is no excuse for refusing to support our troops! The money helps the troops, not to Cher.

    Operation Helmet’s mailing address is:

    Operation Helmet
    74 Greenview Street
    Montgomery, TX 77356

    According to their web site, donations are tax deductible.

  74. 863

    HEY WINGFUCKS!!! Because your ersatz president is too cheap to buy decent helmets for our soldiers, it’s up to us! Roger Rabbit has donated $99 to buy a deluxe helmet upgrade kit for a U.S. soldier. Now it’s your turn!

  75. 864

    Any rightwinger who doesn’t donate to Operation Helmet is supporting the terrorists.

  76. 865

    Any rightwinger who doesn’t donate to Operation Helmet is helping terrorists kill American soldiers.

  78. 867

    Eponymous twilight zone
    I know that juggling more than one concept in your brain at the same time is a challenge, but just try. Conceptualize this: a person can (1) hate terrorists; (2) be embarrassed by the Bush Administration’s foreign policy; and (3) love this country. And, a person can do all three of those things at the same time. Imagine that.

  79. 868

    Re: #19….methinks there’s more to the story.

    I’ll betcha if you check you’ll find that there are PEOPLE on those islands that are about to be surrounded by Bush’s lovely “marine wildlife refuge”. Now, what do you think those people have historically done for a living? FISH. So now instead they get to work for piddling wages in the sweatshop garment factories in the Marshalls making clothes that can then be sold here with labels that say ‘Made in USA”. This puts the final touches on one of Jack Abramoff’s unfinished projects.

    Just another scam, folks. Move along now…

  80. 869

    10. “I weep for my country, and for the families and loved ones of those in Iraq and Afghanistan, those yet living and those already dead; Peace.”

    You weeping lib dems have become so feminized you probably squat to pee. No wonder N. Korea and Iran don’t fear us. You defeatists make us look weak and invite further attacks upon America. Gen. Giap said that his greatest ally against America was the American left. Osama probably feels the same way.

  81. 870

    80
    Contrary to what you fascists think, the inability to think is not an attribute of a strong and courageous person.

  82. 871

    I don’t find much charm, nor take much pleasure in a once progressive left (I am a former member) now degenerated into a slurry of foam-flecked, raw invective and vulgar bilge as demonstrated by Goldy’s palace guards here on HA. I guess I just feel sorry for the left. Their big bad enemies are the John Carlsons and Tim Eyman’s of the world. And this while jihad fascists murder with all the thoughtlessness of blinking. And O how leftoids love to rant about their curtailed civil liberties – as if their streaming chant of “Fuck Bush” has been brooked by a single micron. Leftoids so want to be legendary figures delivering up corruscating speeches that will turn the hearts of the masses to rise up and slay their capitalist overlords -But –alas, that age has passed, and it prbably will not happen in their lifetimes. Plain old humdrum America is not good enough for them. What the left shares with the Jihad slayers is a wish for purity. The jihad murderers would truncate the excesses of the west with bombs; the left with social management; but the longing for purity is common to both.

  83. 872

    82.

    Fuck you, you lying asshole.

    You were never anything than you are now, Kevin Carns. A scheming, lying Young Republican become Lee Atwater wannabee.

    Anyone who played third or forth fiddle to Chris Vance is a loser.

  84. 873

    “Gen. Giap said that his greatest ally against America was the American left.” Commentby americafirst— 6/20/06@ 5:53 pm

    Bullshit! Rightwing myth.

  85. 874

    How many of you fascists have donated to Operation Helmet? I’ll bet none of you have.

  86. 875

    Barbaric Torture – Shoot a Rabbit – Skin it – and then make

    RABBIT STEW
    1 three pound rabbit
    6 small onions, chopped
    1 bay leaf
    ½ cup chopped celery
    2 tsp. salt
    2 cups diced carrots
    3 raw potatoes, cut up
    3 tbs. flour
    1 tbs. chopped parsley

    Clean rabbit and soak in salted water. Drain, disjoint it in pieces for serving and place in a large kettle with onions, bay leaf, celery and salt. Cover with cold water and cook slowly until tender, about two hours. Add chopped carrots and potatoes and continue cooking until these vegetables are done. Smooth flour with a little cold water and add slowly. When thickened, add chopped parsley and serve hot on HorsesAss.Org.

    Problem with this recipe is everyone would still have a bad taste in their mouths just all the other rabbits here do.

  87. 876

    Hey trollfucks! Roger Rabbit isn’t coming to DL tonight. You can leave the stakeout now.

  88. 877

    86

    I’ll supply a rabbit if you pull down your pants and bend over for 5 seconds. It should be big enough for the stew in 6 weeks.

  89. 878

    HEY ROGER FUCK YOU.TELL US ABOUT YOUR TOUR IN NAM.WHICH PX DID YOU WORK IN.LADIES DEPT SELLING TAMPONS.ROGER IS STILL COCKEYED.

  91. 880

    LINK TO Y’O’S PERSONAL WEB SITE

    Hey! I found Y’o’s family photo album on-line! http://www.whitetrashwarehouse.....h_pics.htm

    Top to Bottom:

    Y’o’s brother and sister with his soon-to-be nephew.

    (Left) Y’o’s ride. (Right) Y’o’s wardrobe.

    Y’o’s backyard.

    Y’o’s all-purpose room.

    (Left) Y’o’s investment advisor. (Right) Y’o’s girlfriend.

    (Left) Y’o’s kids. (Right) Y’o.

    Y’o’s RV.

    And last, but not least, the Y’o mansion. http://www.whitetrashwarehouse.....h_pics.htm

  92. 881

    “Yo” is a contraction of the word “yahoo” (as in “trailer park yahoo”) and is properly spelled “Y’o”. Like most trailer park wingfucks, Y’o is illiterate and can’t spell his own fucking name.

  93. 882

    89

    HEY ROGER FUCK YOU. Commentby YO— 6/20/06@ 8:53 pm

    Yes! Yes!! YESSSSSSSS!!! Oh God please YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! Fucking is what I live for !!! I’m a Fucking Machine!!! I live for one thing, and one thing only, which is MAKING MORE RABBITS!!!

    :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

  95. 884

    “President Bush thinks we should stay in Iraq forever, as far as the eye can see. He’s said it himself. He says, ‘Getting out of Iraq is up to presidents who come after me.’ I don’t agree. That’s too long. I don’t know if we’ll be able to get our troops out of Iraq in 6 months or even a year. But I want to start working on getting them home as soon as I get into office. And staying in Iraq for at least three more years, like President Bush wants, is too long.” – DaddyLove

    What about Germany? The troops have been there over 60 years! And South Korea? Japan? Bosnia??? Hypocrit!

  96. 885

    wow! This thread already has nearly 100 comments! That’s more than the pathetic little competing blog gets in six months.

  97. 886

    How many of you sunshine patriots have sent your donations to Operation Helmet? None, I’ll bet.

  98. 887

    It’s a sad state of affairs when U.S. troops in combat zones must depend on donations from civic-minded patriots like Roger Rabbit for basic equipment. The government should be buying these helmets for them. But Bush & Co. have other priorities — namely, another $90 billion of tax cuts for the super-wealthy so they can build more McMansions and buy bigger yachts.

  99. 888

    What’s even sadder is that people who bray the loudest about “supporting the troops,” support them the least when it’s time to break out their checkbooks. Roger Rabbit sent $99 to Operation Helmet. What have you wingnut pikers done to support the troops, besides blowing hot air out of your asses?

  100. 889

    wow! this thread is up to 100 posts. The sucky little competing blog is lucky to get 3 comments a week. All of Stefan’s fans are over here on HA sucking rabbit dick.

  101. 890

    Well, it’s not hard to get to 100 posts when you have the same guy posting 50 of them, now is it?

  102. 891

    “t’s a sad state of affairs when U.S. troops in combat zones must depend on donations from civic-minded patriots like Roger Rabbit for basic equipment. The government should be buying these helmets for them. But Bush & Co. have other priorities – namely, another $90 billion of tax cuts for the super-wealthy so they can build more McMansions and buy bigger yachts.” _Roger Rabbit

    No, what is sad is how liberals will try to use this as an issue when it is not true. Perhaps if the liberals wouldn’t block shipments of that equipment at the Port of OLympia, the troops would have what they need. The hypcirsy is how liberals lie about troops not having equipment and block it at the Port of Olympia the next. That is what is sad.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Come join us for some good beer and even better conversation.

If you happen to be a liberal drinker on the other side of the mountains, the Tri-Cities chapter of DL also meets Tuesday nights, 7 PM, Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd., in Richland. Go ask Jimmy for more details.

Meanwhile the Tacoma chapter of DL meets tomorrow night (and every Wednesday,) 8 PM at Meconi’s Pub, 709 Pacific Ave. They’ll be launching their “Guest Drinker” series with Rep. Dawn Morrell (D-Puyallup).

Comments

  2. 893

    Let’s see, with Al-Zarqawi eating an extra helping of US Air Force tactical bomber loving and a certain member the King County Elections department getting an out of state pay raise, hell yeah I’ll be stopping by to break bread with you folks.
    Just get Montlake to start serving hard pear cider from now on.

  3. 894

    Add this to your topics for discussion tonight.

    I received an e-mail from the Dept. of Transportation. It said in part:

    “Hear and Be Heard
    at public open houses to be held this month:

    Roads, Bridges & Mobility
    Building our Transportation Future

    You Have Choices: Put Yourself in the Driver’s Seat
    Learn about the recently completed Tolling Study that examines ways to better use our existing road capacity and to fund sorely needed infrastructure to keep our state moving forward.

    Take Control of the Wheel
    Come speak with the Transportation Commissioners and see how today’s advances in tolling technology are effectively improving mobility.

    See how other states are getting a grip on congestion by optimizing their roadway capacity through tolling.

    Watch a 3-D animation of how electronic toll collection will work on Washington’s newest toll projects.

    Hear the latest on the Tacoma Narrows Bridge and Good to Go!, the modern, easy-to-use e-sticker for your car so you can pay tolls without stopping.

    Determine Your Destination
    Then tell us what you think. We’ll use your comments to let the Washington State Legislature know how transportation issues affect our lifestyle and our economy.”

    Sounds to me like the issue is already decided. This isn’t a “be heard” meeting as much as a “be told” meeting, an excuse to trot out a dog-and-pony show put on by the contractors who want the state to pay for an electronic tolling system.

    I don’t like tolls on public highways, because they are the first step towards a segregated transportation system. The wealthy get favored treatment, the rest of us get stuck in the traffic, watching them whiz by. The wealthy will oppose future attempts to improve the entire system becuase it doesn’t affect them, so they don’t want to help pay for it. The toll lanes will get better, the rest of the system will decline.

    It is interesting that the only meeting schedule for the Seattle area will be held in Mercer Island!

    Also interesting today is an article that says Russians are getting fed up with the wealthy and influential being able to use the center lanes, and being largely immune to traffic laws.

    Too much info to post all of it here. I put most of it here.

  4. 895

    RHP… uh… that’s how it works pal. The wealthy get to live better because they make the world a better place. That’s how they got wealthy; by producing something that people want and are willing to pay for. Why the fuck should I be forced to sit in traffic while shit like you impede my progress? My time is worth more than yours. Sit there and stew in the mess you made of your life. I’ve got things to do…

  5. 896

    HOw many of you moonbats will be riding buses to DL tonight? Remember what your GOd ALgore said… you all have to do your part. C’mon… get on Ron Sims empty fucking buses and ride there. Do your part so we don’t all die.

    Or do you just want others to follow your religion?

  6. 897

    Congressional investigators say the government doled out as much as $1.4 billion in bogus help to victims of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, getting hoodwinked to pay for season football tickets, a tropical vacation and even a
    divorce lawyer.

    Prison inmates, a supposed victim who used a New Orleans cemetery for a home address, and a person who spent 70 days at a Hawaiian hotel all were able to wrongly get taxpayer help, according to evidence that gives a new black eye to the nation’s
    disaster relief agency. [………………………………………….So GBS was visiting Hawaii for a couple months!!! Spending other people’s money is sooooooo much better than spending your own!!!]

  7. 898

    4

    “The wealthy get to live better because they make the world a better place.” Commentby Mark The Redneck Kennedy— 6/13/06@ 6:05 pm

    haw! haw! haw! I’m adding this one to my collection of unforgettable Reddick quotes! You’ll be seeing it again on HorsesAss — I promise!

    No, Mark, the wealthy live better because they’re greedier and better at grabbing than the rest of us.

  8. 899

    Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL two weeks in a row because a moving target is harder to hit — just ask the Republicans who ran in all directions when Dick Cheney invited them on a hunting trip.

  9. 900

    AND NOW FOR A WORD FROM A BIGOT

    From today’s Seattle Times letters to the editor:

    “Regarding the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, it is now one down and 1,299,999,999 to go! Just how much does one of those 500-pound bombs cost? — Will Stoddard, Sequim”

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....ets13.html

    Hmmm … let’s see … what does Mr. Stoddard of Sequim have in mind? According to Wikipedia, “There are approximately 1.2-1.3 billion Muslims worldwide.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim

    Yup, that’s it — kill ’em all … men, women, and children … guilty or innocent. At least this wingfuck, unlike our resident trollfucks, does some research and got the number of the world’s Muslims right. (It took me 5 seconds to find it on Wikipedia, but that’s more work than any of HA’s trollfucks, who habitually muck up even elementary facts, are willing to invest in intellectual activity.)

    Betcha Mr. Will Fucking Bigot Stoddard of Sequim voted for Rossi, too. He sounds like the type who would.

  10. 901

    Correction: Posts 7, 8, and 9 above are by Roger Rabbit, not Mrs. Rabbit d/b/a Gop Lies.

  11. 902

    Another letter in today’s Seattle Times (same link as above), by Dan Allison of Lake Forest Park, is worth quoting from:

    “Regarding ‘Online persona can ruin your shot at that job’ [page one, June 11], it’s appalling that employers would be snooping around a prospective employee’s personal life using Google or the social-networking Web sites such as Facebook, MySpace, etc.

    “Frankly, it’s none of their business what someone does in their personal life …. If a company determines through online searches that a prospective employee’s politics are at odds with those of the company or the boss, what’s to stop the hiring manager from throwing that person’s résumé in the trash? …

    “Finally, one word of advice for people who put their persona online and who might be concerned about the misuse of this information: Don’t use your real name ….”

    Any questions, trolls? Hey, if John Craig Herman of Hawaii doesn’t care if we know he’s the idiot posting as “JCH” (note use of real initials), that’s his business. As for “Roger Rabbit,” that’s a FAKE name, in case you wingidiots didn’t realize it.

  13. 904

    Speaking of rabbits, why does Bush need a 747 and 667 barrels of oil to hug Dave Reichert, when Darcy Burner can hug Roger Rabbit with nothing more than her right arm? The 8th Congressional District needs a congress(wo)man who can get things done without burning half the world’s oil reserves to do them! It’s time for a change.

  14. 905

    Do the math: A 747 burns 5 gallons of jet fuel per mile (according to Boeing), and it’s 5,600 miles roundtrip from D.C. to Seattle, and there’s 42 gallons in a barrel, so that’s 667 barrels of kerosene.

  15. 906

    Just to raise money for a congressman who’s so stupid it took him 20 years as a cop to catch a serial killer, and at the rate he’s going, it’s going to take him at least that long to hug a rabbit as a congressman.

  16. 907

    Washington — Democratic House and Senate leaders are planning to reduce the cost of student loans and prescription drugs, raise the minimum wage and launch an effort to develop alternative fuels if they win back control of Congress. In an interview Tuesday with USA TODAY, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi previewed the “New Direction for America” platform hammered out by Democratic members of Congress, mayors and governors. [………………………………………………………….Onward To Socialism!!!!]

  17. 908

    Also in today’s Seattle Times, columnist Leonard Pitt, writing about Ann Coulter, offers us this memorable portrait of the people who worship the Virgin Bitch:

    “Frankly, it’s easy to do what Coulter does. Just say the most outrageous thing in the most inflammatory way. Just give moral and mental cover to that small-minded, anti-intellectual strain of the electorate that recoils like Superman in the face of Kryptonite from complexity and incertitude. And when people call you on it, just wrap yourself in the flag and declare yourself a straight-shootin’ conservative under siege by that mean ol’ liberal media. … Ann Coulter is not reviled because she is conservative. … No, Coulter is reviled because she is mean, malicious, the barbed-wire frontwoman for a cabal of bloviators, bully boys and blowhards …. But again, it plays in Peoria. And why not? It is loud, simple, stupid.”

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....tts13.html

    Small minded. Anti-intellectual. Recoils from complexity and incertitude. Wrap themselves in the flag and bawl about being abused by the mean liberal media. A cabal of bloviators, bully boys, and blowhards. Loud, simple, stupid.

    Sure sounds a lot like our HA troll cabal.

  19. 910

    I have always been a staunch Republican. I have even managed to ignore the obvious betrayals of the Neocons to the conservative Republican values of fiscal responsibility and restraint in international affairs.

    But this lady in the “Dates for Democrats” blogads is making me feel kind of funny. There she is with her basketball, ponytail, winning smile and pert …. Nothing at all like the frumpish bagladies in the Republican party.

    Well, I am thinking that perhaps I cannot forgive the neocons anymore!

    I am voting Democratic this year!

    Does anyone know how I can get in touch with that lovely lass?

  20. 911

    In a previous thread I called Sillyguy’s scheme to amend the state constitution to require revotes in close elections “a flying machine that won’t fly.”

    Let’s check on Sillyguy to see if he’s gotten that thing off the ground yet.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.....hopter.JPG

    Nope, it (and he) are still on the ground. But I betcha she’d get airborne if he takes her down to the Gulf Coast and sets her up on the beach when a hurricane comes ashore.

  21. 912

    Rabbit @ 7 – That’s why you are a fucking loser. That’s why you bitch about being poor. You don’t get it. Wasted your whole life not getting it. LMAO……..

  22. 913

    Sillyguy, you’re supposed to run things like that past the RNC before you publish them — you know, peer review. Rove might not like your idea. He might say something like,

    “YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!! HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN FLORIDA AND OHIO? WHAT WERE YOU THINKING??!”

  23. 914

    Carlson had Coulter on yesterday. She was great. You guys are pissed because she called bullshit on your tactic of having “untouchable” kooks out there like Sheehan and Murtha. You tried to position them as being above criticism. Bullshit. Game over.

    You guys hate it because MSM is no longer “main”. You don’t get to decide what the news is and how to spin it. You can’t win the intellectual argument, so you tried putting up people that we can’t attack. Bullshit…. they’re shrill hacks just like the rest of you. They (and you) WILL be challenged. And as usual, you will lose.

  24. 915

    21

    I don’t bitch about being poor. One reason being I’m not poor. … I don’t bitch about paying FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS in alimony and child support either. Because I didn’t have to. (pause)

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  25. 916

    Betcha Mr. Will Fucking Bigot Stoddard of Sequim voted for Rossi, too. He sounds like the type who would.

    Commentby Gop Lies— 6/13/06@ 7:56 pm

    Gop Lies what a stupid name, and did your other half man/women/wife/girl friend/donkey/goat/sheep/ or more than one partner stick you out back in the dog house. You talk like you got your butt whip. Maybe you should go to your rainbow church the Godless Socialist Democrats, get on your prayer rug, and then thank the Socialist for you perfect world.

  26. 917

    HEY TROLLS! I see that John Carlson is teaming up with Gary Locke to promote the REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION TAX PACKAGE. I think we’re now only one step away from Carlson doing shows on Rossi’s failed attempt to steal the election.

  27. 918

    19

    “Does anyone know how I can get in touch with that lovely lass?” Commentby I feel funny— 6/13/06@ 8:18 pm

    No, but there’s more where she came. Try this:

    1) Attend your district Democratic organization’s monthly meetings,

    2) Join the U.W. Chapter of Young Democrats,

    3) Attend Drinking Liberally,

    4) Become an itinerant Democratic campaign worker,

    5) Join Ex-Republicans Anonymous and attend their meetings at least three times weekly.

  28. 919

    Geez, you guys have had a bad run last week or so…

    1) Zarqawi killed.
    2) Dean Logan out.
    3) Rove cleared.

    Two of your guys taken out. Our guy untouched.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  29. 920

    19 (continued)

    I find it interesting that you noticed her face. Most people don’t make it past the bottom half of the picture.

  30. 921

    Carlson had Coulter on yesterday. She was great.

    Commentby Mark The Redneck Kennedy— 6/13/06@ 8:25 pm

    Looks like Mark duh Redneck is fixing to lose $500,000 and his penis this time!

    HAR HAR HAR!

  31. 922

    Not whining about Ann Coulter again. Whaaaaaaaa. You dems are pussies. No wonder the military hates you. Hehe

  32. 923

    Geez, you CONS have had a bad run last week or so…

    1) Zarqawi killed. (Have to invent a new Boogeyman)
    2) Dean Logan got a better job.
    3) Rove ratted out Cheney to save his ass.

    One of your guy’s (Zarqawi) taken out, One of your favorite targets-for-lies gets a promotion, and the King Maker makes a deal to save his puffy ass.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  33. 924

    Looks like LA county is gearing up for a tight election. They got a good hack in Logan. I wonder what hack will replace him? I wonder if he will have that same dumb “deer in the headlight” look as Dean did when he fucks up the next election? Only time will tell.

  34. 925

    All the drunks gathering with their fat guts hanging out of their “Che” T-Shirts while balancing on the bar with butts so big only one cheek will fit on it at a time and the ass cracks are so large they’s make a plumber proud. All the while pontificating about things they know nothing about. Yup, just another liberal gathering.

  35. 926

    There’s a 12″ talking Ann Coulter doll that’s for sale in all sorts of places, including both right- and left-wing blog sites. Apparently the lefties think it’s a funny satire and the righties give ’em to their daughters to teach them how a real lady is supposed to talk.

  36. 927

    23

    ” … called bullshit on your tactic of having ‘untouchable’ kooks out there” – Commentby Mark The Redneck Kennedy— 6/13/06@ 8:25 pm

    So it’s okay now if we call bullshit on your untouchable kooks? This one, for example? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:North.jpg How about this one? http://www.nndb.com/people/923/000023854/ Or this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.....mbaugh.jpg Or the mother (father?) of all untouchable rightwing kooks? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi.....n_1981.jpg

  37. 928

    It seems a pretty good argument for riding the bus that Mark the Redneck won’t be riding with you. Probably don’t have to worry about him showing up at DL either, because after tooling around all day in his Suburban he can’t afford to buy any booze.

  38. 929

    “No wonder the military hates you.”

    As the Iraq Veterans running as Democrats for Congress, we must say that the Republicans are as respected as Bin Laden among the troops.

    Q: What does a soldier say when he steps in camel shit?

    A: Someone forgot to pick up their Republican again!

  40. 931

    As the Iraq Veterans running as Democrats for Congress, we must say that the Republicans are as respected as Bin Laden among the troops.

    Commentby Veterans Running For Congress— 6/13/06@ 8:44 pm

    Running for congress because they cant take the heat of warfare….hmmmm. That sound familiar.

  41. 932

    28

    You aren’t having such a good week yourself, Redneck. The only people who can spend as much time on HA as you do are the unemployed. Not to mention FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS gone, out the window, poooof! for alimony and child support.

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  42. 933

    Reddick, poor sap, can’t even pay a $100 gambling debt. Lucky for him he lost that bet to Goldy instead of the local Mafia bookie, or he’d be swimming in the Strait of Juan de Fuca wearing cement flippers.

  43. 934

    “Running for congress because they cant take the heat of warfare….hmmmm. That sound familiar.”

    Commentby RUFUS— 6/13/06@ 8:46 pm

    Ah, Another wingnut showing his support for the honored troops!

  44. 935

    30

    I think Reddick and Coulter should get married. They’re perfect for each other. They’re both white Anglo male queers.

  45. 936

    Laura Bush killed a guy.

    The Bush twins are whores.

    George Bush is a coward.

    That about says it all!

  47. 938

    38

    People are supposed to take a scooper and plastic bag with them whenever they walk their Republican. It’s a Baghdad city ordinance.

  49. 940

    Of course I support the troops. I vote republican in liberal King county. Something a lot of troops stationed here dont get to do. It is my way of paying tribute to them.

  51. 942

    49

    “I vote republican in liberal King county. Something a lot of troops stationed here dont get to do. It is my way of paying tribute to them.” Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 6/13/06@ 8:55 pm

    DUFUS never tires of posting this lie; and I never tire of calling BULLSHIT on it.

    FACT: Over 14,000 military/overseas ballots were counted in King County.

    FACT: Only 16 military/overseas ballots were disqualified for arriving too late in King County.

  54. 945

    DUFUS never tires of posting this lie; and I never tire of calling BULLSHIT on it.

    FACT: Over 14,000 military/overseas ballots were counted in King County.

    FACT: Only 16 military/overseas ballots were disqualified for arriving too late in King County.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/13/06@ 8:59 pm

    Fact- Rabbit source is the KCRE. Which means everything else is BULLSHIT.

    Just because you call bullshit fact doesn’t make it fact. It is still bullshit. Nuff said.

  55. 946

    I wonder why we have heard any polls regarding Bush? Are the MSM running out of democrats to poll? I guess they will have to dip into the pool of liberal illegal voters now. Hehe

  56. 947

    Really, RUFUS, quit voting against us. We now you hate us, but just sit this one out. We need your “support” like we need another IED under our underarmoured Humvees.

    Just sit back, relax, and we will get in touch with assholes like you when we get back.

  57. 948

    Geez, you CONS have had a bad run last week or so…

    1) Zarqawi killed. (Have to invent a new Boogeyman)
    2) Dean Logan got a better job.
    3) Rove ratted out Cheney to save his ass.

    Commentby Mark\’s Brother What Survived— 6/13/06@ 8:38 pm

    Well I know the dems Fitzmas in July is ruined. hehe

  58. 949

    Roger Rabbit is not attending DL tonight. He’s having too much fun posting on HA.

  59. 950

    RUFUS! Ixney on the SMMAY!

    We got your back… we are owned by the defense contractors and global corporations… but you keep up attracting attention to us and more people will realize that we are nothing but mouthpieces for the Project for a New American Century!

    Sure we report polls you don’t like, but we can’t get away with lying about everything! And Bush doesn;t matter, we are just providing more room for Republicans to distance themselves from Bush and with the help of our voting machines ensure a continued rule by our puppets in congress.

    Stop fucking up the plan!

  61. 952

    54

    “Just because you call bullshit fact doesn’t make it fact. It is still bullshit.” Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 6/13/06@ 9:05 pm

    So true, Dufus. So very true. This one goes into my “Memorable Troll Quotes” folder!

  62. 953

    Just sit back, relax, and we will get in touch with assholes like you when we get back.

    Commentby The Military— 6/13/06@ 9:11 pm

    Wow a lefty in the Military and he wants to get a hold of me when they get out. See ya in three months. Be carefull shooting yourself in the ass for that last purple heart. Hehe

  63. 954

    Well, let’s see, what’ve we got so far?

    “Ummm…. if the President says it… it’s not a ‘leak’. A ‘leak’ is disclosing information without authorization. Since the President is the boss, it is by definition not a leak since he can authorize whatever the fuck he wants. That’s how things work when you’re boss.” Commentby Mark The Redneck— 4/10/06@ 3:06 pm

    “The wealthy get to live better because they make the world a better place.” Commentby Mark The Redneck Kennedy— 6/13/06@ 6:05 pm

    “Just because you call bullshit fact doesn’t make it fact. It is still bullshit.” Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 6/13/06@ 9:05 pm

    “Our ‘oil’ problem has been created by lawmakers for the last 40 years in both parties.” Commentby sgmmac— 5/1/06@ 9:22 am

  64. 955

    ” Be carefull shooting yourself in the ass for that last purple heart. Hehe”

    Ah Yes, The Soidiers in Iraq will have a lot to talk to you about, RUFUS. We can feel your Republican support from here.

  65. 956

    Ah Yes, The Soidiers in Iraq will have a lot to talk to you about, RUFUS. We can feel your Republican support from here.

    Commentby The Military— 6/13/06@ 9:23 pm

    A word of advice. Don’t release your military medical records if you run for politics. Follow the lead of the dozen others who were before you. That’s all soldier.

  66. 957

    “As the Iraq Veterans running as Democrats for Congress, we must say that the Republicans are as respected as Bin Laden among the troops.

    Commentby Veterans Running For Congress— 6/13/06@ 8:44 pm”

    Democrats running away is more like it. Lt Watada, a card carrying Democrat proves the point.

    They can run under the banner “Cowards for Congress”

  67. 958

    63

    What this. Oh I get it. Rabbit is pissed off at MTR’s list so he is trying to make his own. Hehehehee. Oooooh that hurts hahahaha rabbit. Hahahahaaha stop your killing me…..hehahahahaha

  68. 959

    Yes, Yes, RUFUS and pbj1… show your Republican support for the soldiers!!!

    More, people need to see this Republican support of the troops!

  70. 961

    What is wrong with these Republicans! I thought they were pro business? This Bush Market is killing me and my cats!

    The stock market has not gained a penny in 5 years!!

    Bush is running America as well as he did every company he bankrupted.

  71. 962

    @70: But look on the bright side, America is still afloat, and foreigners are still eager to buy our T-bills and other financial assets to the tune of billions of dollars per year.

    This is OK as long as our economy is growing faster than their buying, otherwise, the cat is out of the bag.

  72. 963

    The stock market has not gained a penny in 5 years!!

    Bush is running America as well as he did every company he bankrupted.

    Commentby Heddy Greene— 6/13/06@ 9:52 pm

    That your problem if you are to stupid to invest in oil stocks. You deserve to lose your moeny.

  73. 964

    65

    Not a problem for Bush. He doesn’t have any military medical records. He didn’t show up for his flight physical. So they grounded him, and $1 million of fighter pilot training went down the drain.

  74. 965

    @ 28: Geez, you guys have had a bad run last week or so…

    Talk to me in November, Vagina Lips. Otherwise, you are just blowing shit as usual–moron.

  75. 966

    We will remember, especially those who have purple hearts.

    Commentby The Military— 6/13/06@ 9:45 pm

    Yeah, yeah. Just remind them if they recieved their ballot last election and 70% will be back in the repub corner in no time. Asking the military to vote donk is like asking a welfare mamma to vote repub. It just aint gonna happen. Nuff said.

  77. 968

    Roger Rabbit is not attending DL tonight. He’s having too much fun posting on HA.

    And keep up the good work, Roger!!!!

  78. 969

    “I’ve learned that great wealth isn’t nearly as good as average sex.” – Ted Turner

  80. 971

    Anybody hear the one about “republicans are scum”?

    Oh. You heard it already.

  81. 972

    Julius Rosenwald, one-time Sears CEO, is a lot more quotable than Reddick or Dufus ever will be:

    “I could never understand the popular belief that because a man makes a lot of money, he has a lot of brains. Some very wealthy men who have made huge fortunes have been among the most stupid people I have ever known.”

  82. 973

    But this one is for the ages:

    “If you can’t be a good example, then you’ll just have to be a horrible warning.” – Catherine Aird

    Hmmm, let’s see, who do we know that fits to a “t”?

  83. 974

    Stuuuufus @ 72 above: “That your problem if you are to stupid to invest in oil stocks. You deserve to lose your moeny.”

    Anybody can pick out a winner ex post, you dumb fuck. If everybody had sold everything to buy oil stock two years ago, the smart money would have been buying everything else.

    What can I say? If I wanted to suffocate somebody, I’d have them read your comments, stuuuuufus. They take one’s breath away with their ignorance and stupidity.

    Fucking gasbag.

  84. 975

    ROGER RABBIT “HORRIBLE WARNING” LIST

    Nominations are now being accepted from the following candidate list:

    [ ] 1. George W. Bush
    [ ] 2. Karl Rove
    [ ] 3. John Craig Herman
    [ ] 4. Mark the Welsher
    [ ] 5. Rufus the Dufus

  85. 976

    HEY TROLLS! I see that John Carlson is teaming up with Gary Locke to promote the REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION TAX PACKAGE. I think we’re now only one step away from Carlson doing shows on Rossi’s failed attempt to steal the election.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/13/06@ 8:28 pm

    Yeah, I saw that one, too, Roger. Betcha’ he’s doin’ it for the money. The sleazy shit.

    Look, the top 200 weathiest families in this state, with all their Bush tax breaks and fancy lawyers, could pay for the R-Tid without missing a bond payment. That’s the real crime here.

  86. 977

    It came out today that Karl Rove lied about being in college to avoid having to go to Nam. Yet ANOTHER republican chickenshit chickenhawk!

  87. 978

    @ 76 “I’m surprised anyone still remembers Heddy Green.”

    I was just featured on the History Channel. And you wippery snappers have a lot to learn about good stock markets.

    OIL STOCKS!? You think one sector will save the country from a crash? Or a market that hasn’t moved in 5 years?

    No wonder they call you DUFUS!

  89. 980

    Old money is more respectable than new money. Isn’t that what they say?

    After spending all their money on interestpayments that go to the already rich the Republican wannabe millionaires cast about for villains who are preventing THEM from being millionnaires , too. Do they find the culprits in banks , credit cardf companies and big oil?

    Not on your life! They find them in the ghetto with kids in underfunded pre-school programs. What chumps and losers these wannabe Republican millionnaires are! They want to be like Don LePre with his Rolls Royce and Cheesy Bimbo.

    That’s their ultimate dream.

  90. 981

    75

    Think the military is rock-solid behind Bush? Read this article. http://www.washingtonmonthly.c.....wells.html

    Excerpts:

    “‘I’m a strong Republican, but the Republicans have been the problem; we’ve been treated like second-class citizens,’ a retired Vietnam Marine helicopter gunnery sergeant named Don Beaver told me in North Carolina.

    “Elsie P. Smith, the town’s Republican mayor, says: ‘There’s a few people who have become very hostile [towards the Bush administration] … the longer the war goes on, the more of that subtle shift you’re going to see.’

    “This subtle distancing of Republicans from Bush has begun to show up, locally and nationally, even among those conservative politicians who spent this administration’s first two years hugging the president as if their political future depended solely on the strength of their grip. …

    “A similar mood is emerging in small, patriotic towns around the country. According to a study conducted in mid-October by Stars and Stripes, half of American soldiers in-country say their units have low morale, that they were insufficiently trained, and that they won’t reenlist. …

    “Charles Carter, a retired Naval chief petty officer, told Knight Ridder: ‘I will vote non-Republican in a heartbeat if it continues as is.’ Carter’s opinion is representative. While the GOP hasn’t lost the military vote, if present trends continue, it could see substantial defections in one of its core constituencies. …

    “A reassignment of less than two-hundredths of 1 percent in the military vote to the Democrats from the Republicans in Florida in 2000 would have moved that state to the Democratic column, and a similar shift of less than 5 percent in the veteran vote alone would have given Arkansas, Nevada, and New Hampshire’s electoral votes to Gore ….”

  92. 983

    87

    I don’t get History Channel. I’m too cheap to let the cable crooks take my hard-earned money.

  93. 984

    Stefan’s diatribe on Goldy’s radio show was ornery and mean-spirited even for Stefan. It simply drips with jealousy.

  94. 985

    Cowards like me and left turd are “running” alright. Running away like little girlie men. When is the next democrat hate america gathering being held? Will all of us Democrats call some more Marines guilty without any evidence and demand they be shot while advocating the release of prisoners at Guantanamo?

    Yours truly comrades,

    Lt Erin “The Cowad” Watada – Loyal to Democrat principles of destroying America through any means possible.

  95. 986

    500k for Redneck’s ex old lady? No wonder he welshes on bets.

    WHAT’S THE MATTER REDNECK? YOU MADE A “BAD CHOICE”?

  96. 987

    84 – Mark the bet welshing redneck gets my top vote followed very closely by DOOFUS.

  97. 988

    “Cowards like me and MTR are “pissing our pants” alright. Pissing our pants like little girlie men.

    Commentby RUFUS— 6/13/06@ 10:42 pm

    We know RUFUS, we know.

  98. 989

    Hey all you Democrat America hater traitors, see what a real man does when he takes the country to war:

    Bush Makes Surprise Visit to Iraq
    Tuesday, June 13, 2006
    FoxNews

    BAGHDAD, Iraq — In a whirlwind trip that came as a surprise to all but about a half-dozen presidential aides, President Bush went to Iraq Tuesday for a face to face visit with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, in which he pledged continuing U.S. support for the emerging democracy.

    Unlike cowardly Democrat presidents who were too cowardly to visit the war zone, Bush shows he is more man than any America hater traitor Democrat rat could ever hope to be.

    Cowardly Clinton sent people to bomb kosovo. Did the coward ever visit Kosovo during the war? Nope. He was to busy chasing skirts and running away like he ran during the Vietnam War.

  99. 990

    What Roger Rabid really means is I can’t get cable as I don’t pay my bills. Therefore all he can comment upon is “Night Lie.”

    Right Roger, Stefan really relishes Goldy’s non-life: No job having, no wife having, sharing daughter with some other Guy Daddy, etc.

    Righhhhht.

    Too late for you to get a life Roger, but let up on those who already do.

    Happy Birthday when it comes, since you’ll be lonely then, and I and everyone else will be busy.

  100. 991

    I think that Mayor Nickels and the Seattle City Council should take full advantage of Judge Mary Roberts ruling striking down Initiative 747 and immediately raise property taxes in the City of Seattle by 27.3% (the compounded difference between 1% annually and 6% annually over the last five years) without a vote of the people.

    Worthwhile government projects that can be funded by the City of Seattle property tax increase:

    1. Tunnel to replace Alaskan Way Viaduct — i.e. the $2 to 3 billion or more of additional funding that is needed to finish the project beyond what the state allocated

    2. Extend Sound Transit light rail from downtown Seattle-ish to Northgate (all of this is within the City of Seattle) — $1 billion or more

    3. Build a state-of-the-art monorail system all throughout the City of Seattle ($2 billion for the original project, but fund it for $4 billion so a more extensive system can be built)

    4. Replace the Evergreen Point Floating Bridge (i.e. the $500 million or more that isn’t being covered by state funding)

    5. Build a brand new, practically rent-free, arena for the Seattle Sonics (at least $200 million)

  101. 992

    Bush a real man? PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!

    He spent a few hours in one of the most heavily guarded bunkers in the universe after forcing the REAL men to clear the area and put their lives at risk so he could do a photo opp.

    This draft dodging, AWOL coward is about as much real man as Janet S. Oooops – well that might not be the best analogy.

  104. 995

    104 – The wingers here at HA.org and (un)SP derive the meaning of life from brown-nosing the BIAW.

  105. 996

    So, I’m late to respond to Mark the Redneck. That’s because after making my post, I left to go to a business dinner, where we finalized the details of over a billion dollars in sales between an Asian company and a local manufacturer. So that’s why MTR’s message, which I just saw this morning, is even more hillarious:

    “The wealthy get to live better because they make the world a better place.”

    Some do, most don’t. Most are just lucky, but they don’t want to admit it. They cover themselves by claiming that they are smarter, work harder, etc., but fail to recognize that there are lots more people who are smarter than them and work harder than them who aren’t quite so lucky. Obviously, MTR is in this catagory. As for me, I do fine, thank you, and I give more than 10% of my earnings to charity every month, and devote at least 10% in time – including serving at a local meals program for the homeless. What did you this week to make the world a better place?

    “That’s how they got wealthy; by producing something that people want and are willing to pay for.”

    Again, some do, other’s don’t. Bill Gates and Microsoft did very well, but the actual “producers” of their programs didn’t do so well. I think the DOS designer got $10,000 for his work on the program, which Bill gates then flipped to IBM (keeping the rights to re-sell for himself). And the Xerox designers of the Mac/Windows interface (co-opted by Apple, then Microsoft) just got their regular salaries. The college professor who designed the computer spreadsheet never received a penny off his invention, although Lotus, Apple, and then Microsoft have made a bundle off it. I don’t have anything against Bill Gates, but it’s an example of how you cannot claim that only the rich are the “producers”.

    “Why the fuck should I be forced to sit in traffic while shit like you impede my progress? My time is worth more than yours. Sit there and stew in the mess you made of your life. I’ve got things to do…”

    Gee, I made a ton of money for my employer yesterday, and even more for the local economy over the next five years. Maybe shit like you should pull over and wait for me to pass?????

    I could pay for tolls if I wanted too, and I bet my employer would pay for them if I asked. But I won’t, because I don’t think its a good idea to allow a favored few to get special benefits on the public highways, only because they have more money. Raise the money and fix the whole problem, don’t just fix it for a few. I’m willing to pay my fair share.

  106. 997

    I forgot to add in response to MTR’s rather lunatic comments:

    “The wealthy get to live better because they make the world a better place. That’s how they got wealthy; by producing something that people want and are willing to pay for. ”

    So, could you please explain to me, how Paris Hilton makes the world a better place? And what, other than a sex tape, has she produced? (No, I don’t count TV shows which show how dumb, lazy, spoiled, and self-centered she is “producing” anything of value. Sometimes I slow down to look at a car wreck, but that doesn’t mean its a good thing.)

  107. 998

    re 100: Right!!! Richard Pope!!! And don’t give even one single penney to the tax MOOCHERS in Eastern WA. for their roads. And keep their own property taxes at a low, low rate so they can’t even maintain what they have.

    How ’bout them apples, Richard Pope?

  108. 999

    99

    I pay all my bills on time and have a credit rating that makes the Republican-run U.S. government look like a trailer park deadbeat. Come to think of it … the GOP-run government IS a trailer park deadbeat! Check out today’s inflation numbers.

    We’re running about 6% to 7% inflation, according to the official government numbers. They try to make it look better by ignoring energy and food costs. So, okay, inflation is a little better if you don’t drive or eat. Even the higher figure is as phony as a three-dollar bill. Gas prices are up nearly 70% since January. In Seattle, housing prices are going up about 6% or 7% a month. We are well on the way toward a 2001 dollar (when Bush took office) being worth a dime. This is devastating to senior citizens living on fixed pensions and minimum wage workers.

    I see in today’s news that Congress is getting a $3,300 COLA. That amounts to about 1/3 of the annual earnings of workers earning the federal minimum wage of $5.15 an hour. They haven’t received an increase since the early 1990s, and last year the CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES in Congress refused to raise the minimum wage by even one fucking penny. SHAME on those cheap bastards. I don’t need to tell you who they are — Republicans.

    That’s one of roughly a million reasons why voters need to throw these greedy, grasping, Republican millionaires out of Congress and replace them with decent, compassionate Democratic millionaires.

  109. 1000

    re 107: The thing about the rich being “strong” and “productive” may work in a case like Jimmy Carter ( who earned his wealth ) , but all you need to do is look at “W” attempting to credibly hold a simple hammer to realize that these guys can’t do anything. They couln’t even change a tire. And withoout the wealth that they INHERITED they couldn’t pay someone to do their dirty work.

    No, the truly dangerous people are not the people who inherited wealth , but the Republican millionnaire wannabes who do all their legwork for them.

    They pay huge prices, interest, fuel prices and everything and it all goes to the rich. Then they look in theghetto at some poor toddler in an underfunded Head Start Program for a BOGEYMAN to explain why they are not millionnaires.

  110. 1001

    Didn’t Jimmy Carter make his fortune farming peanuts? And isn’t peanut farming a highly regulated enterprise done only with the permission of the govt? That means that it is a govt controlled monopoly. Only an idiot wouldn’t make money, because the game is rigged in the first place.

    Kind of like Al Gore and his oil profits courtesy of Armand Hammer.

    Oh, yeah, then there is the Kennedy family who got rich of prohibition.

  111. 1002

    Wingnuts have taken to bragging about the jobs now being created by the “Bush economy.” Let’s put this in perspective. The economy suffered an absolute loss of 2.2 million jobs in Bush’s first three years, disregarding the increase in the workforce over that period. Although the economy has been adding jobs since early 2005, it needs 156,000 new jobs a month to accomodate workforce growth, in other words that’s what is needed to keep the unemployment rate from rising, and job growth is falling well short of that number in most months. So, the “Bush economy” is still growing unemployment instead of growing prosperity.

    But wait. Bush’s deficit spending has, predictably and inevitably, created raging inflation that is pushing down real wages, especially at the minimum wage level.

    The $5.15 federal minimum wage is now worth, in purchasing power, maybe half (or less) of what it was when enacted. In other words, we now have a $2.50 minimum wage. Needless to say, lowering the minimum wage creates more low-end jobs. Theoretically, the number of jobs the economy creates at a $0.00 wage rate is infinite. But those $2.50 jobs aren’t creating prosperity, they’re creating poverty. They’re also creating higher deficits, because at that wage level, the government instead of employers is providing these workers’ food (food stamps), medical care (Medicaid), and housing (public housing, Section 8, and housing subsidies).

    But wait! There’s more! Bush’s immigration policies (i.e., opening the floodgates to an influx of cheap foreign labor) is pushing wages even lower. Poor blacks are now complaining they can no longer compete for day labor jobs against immigrants (many of them illegals) who will work for far less than the legal minimum wage. Have you noticed who is building all those ultra-expensive new homes and condos going up all over Seattle? About 90% of the laborers on those construction sites are non-white, non-English speaking, and lord knows what the contractors are paying them but I’ll bet they aren’t making $15 an hour or even $8 an hour or even necessarily our state’s legal minimum wage. Of course this is taking jobs and income away from American construction workers who used to make a middle class living.

    This kind of job creation isn’t prosperity, it’s downsizing the standard of living of the average American, at the same time it’s downsizing the job market itself. There are fewer jobs for Americans, at lower pay, with less benefits, and no job security. This sucks! Why in hell would ANYONE except the filthy rich (and morally filthy) capitalists whose personal fortunes are growing exponentially VOTE for the assholes responsible for the policies that produce this economic result? When are the trailer park idiots shooting themselves in their feet going to wake up and realize they’re cutting their own throats by voting Republican? (Don’t answer that; these damn fools are unteachable, and the answer is “never.”)

    Speaking of morally filthy capitalists, another news item today is that pension funds are now suing corporations en masse for backdating executive stock options. It works like this. Let’s say a company’s stock price is $20 when John Doe comes on board, so his captive board gives him a million options. In theory, if the stock goes up to $30 under his leadership, he makes $10 million. But wait! The cheating motherfucking backdates his options to when the stock price was $10! He turns out to be a crappy CEO and the stock goes down to $15. John Doe gets fired, but walks away with $5 million even before the friendly board starts stuffing the shareholders’ money into his golden parachute. This is stealing, folks. STEALING. And it’s happening on a massive scale.

    The pension funds are pissed. They’ve filed lawsuits against at least 40 companies, and there’s likely to be hundreds more. The lawyers are going to clean up. This scandal is going to generate billions, if not tens of billions, in legal fees. I think maybe I should go job hunting.

  112. 1003

    111

    I like our crooks better than your crooks.

  113. 1004

    Posts 109, 110, and 112 were posted by Roger Rabbit. When Mrs. Rabbit posts on HorsesAss under a different screen name, and I subsequently get my turn on the computer, Goldy’s software defaults back to the last screen name used. This happens EVERY time Mrs. Rabbit posts on HA. No matter. Mrs. Rabbit is just as liberal as I am, so who cares if Roger posted it, or Roger’s supervisor posted it. Same dif, six of one, half a dozen of the other. Eat shit, righty traitors. Both of us are out to get you.

  116. 1007

    And many of those jobs are in Iraq. Let’s see, a dogface Army PFC makes, what, $17,000 a year? He’s on duty 24-7. So he’s making about $1 an hour to get shot at. The ultimate cheap labor.

  117. 1008

    Janet S Said:

    “Didn’t Jimmy Carter make his fortune farming peanuts? And isn’t peanut farming a highly regulated enterprise done only with the permission of the govt? That means that it is a govt controlled monopoly. Only an idiot wouldn’t make money, because the game is rigged in the first place”

    No, you are thinking of Senator George Prescott Bush and (ex) President George H. W. Bush. Prescott Bush made his fortune using east-coast money to buy up oil (mineral) rights in Texas during the Depression when even oil prices hit bottom and everyone was broke. Later, as part of the anti-depression programs of the Roosevelt administration, the price of gasoline was artificially set higher than the market price by the federal government in order to fight against “deflation”. The policy encouraged exploration and production in the short run, but had bad long-term consequences we are feeling even today, and it remained in place far too long (into the 1970’s).

    But more importantly, the oil subsidy served as a cover where future President George H. W. Bush could “manage” his father’s firm, run it for a few years in an industry where you would have to be a complete dufus to lose money, and then take credit as being a “businessman” when he ran for office.

    They tried to do it again with George W. Bush – use his father’s money and political backing to set him up in the oil business. But the oil business in the 1970’s and 1980’s wasn’t the same as it was in the 1940’s and 1950’s. With prices fluctuating, you had to be bright and actually be a pretty good businessman to avoid going broke. George W. Bush was neither. He managed two oil rights companies which were going downhill fast, but each time he was saved when he was bought out by a cabal of investors (at far above a fair market price for the troubled company). The investors were not buying the companies so much as they were hoping to buy favor with the father, who by then was a big shot in the Republican party and running for President.

    After being bought out of the oil business the last time, Bush was put forward as the front man for the consortium buying the Texas Rangers. When that baseball team was sold, he did make a fair amount of money. What is questionable is where he got the money for his initial investments in the first place. The money he made off the oil industry was clearly insufficient to buy a fraction of his interest in the team, so it appears that the other investors gave him an unequal share of the team so he would appear to be the “majority owner”.

    From that, he used his resume as a “Texas Businessman”, and his father’s political connections, to win the governer’s race in Texas, and after that he became President.

    Now, are calling Carter’s reliance on agriculture programs which every farmer is entitled to rely upon, and which is the only thing currently keeping family farms in existence? If so, then perhaps you should advertise in Eastern Washington that the Republicans intend to eliminate those benefits? Yea, I didn’t think so. Instead, the Republicans will quietly make the benefits available only to large agribusinesses, while reducing benefits to the family farm until they don’t exist anymore. They just won’t admit that’s what they are doing, except when they don’t think their comments will be repeated.

  118. 1009

    Hillary clinton was booed at Take Back America when she suggested Dems ought to support the troops.

  119. 1010

    112: It is true that the immigrants are taking the labor positions, and this is having the effect of competing with other minorities for the same positions. It has happened over and over again – first when the Irish arrived in the U.S., then when the Italians arrived, then the eastern Eurpeans, then the Asians, and now the Latinos. Unfortunately for the blacks (excuse me – African-Americans), it seems that they are the ones that keep getting pushed out. I’d be pissed too. But for them the best answer is to continue to push for upward mobility. When you are at the bottom rung of the ladder, there is nowhere to go but to be pushed off the ladder completely.

    In my younger days I have held quite a variety of jobs (some at the same time): lifeguard, swim instructor, construction & landscape laborer, short-order cook, bartender, waiter, retail clerk, mainframe computer operator, and courier, all before getting my undergraduate degree. I always felt that if push came to shove, and the economy tanked, I could always support my family (on a subsistance level) using one of those occupations.

    But a couple of years ago, my teenage son attempted to get his first summer job on his own (he didn’t want me to help). After many discouraging forays in job searches, I told him that perhaps he was setting his sights to high, perhaps he should just get a job at the local MacDonald’s for the summer – anything so he could get that “first job” on his resume. “But Dad”, he said, “I’ve tried. They told me I had to be fluent in Spanish so I could communicate with the other workers there”. That’s when I started to pay attention, and realized how few entry-level jobs are NOT being staffed by rather recent immigrants. It’s good for them, but I worry about the effect it has on our teenagers, when traditional summer or part-time entry level jobs are no longer available to them. (Yes, my son did eventually find a good job working in a bookstore, and he did it on his own, but it took a lot longer than we expected).

    Before anyone claims I am racist, I should point out that my wife’s step-mother is Hispanic (from California, not Mexico, she proudly points out that her family was in California “before the Anglos were here”). My wife’s mother was Scottish/Samoan, and her father was Polish. All of her cousins are mixed-race in some form or another, including a few of us anglos, a good representation of blacks, and also hispanics, Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese, and a few others in the mix. I would be in bad shape if I was prejudiced.

    But the family reunions are a blast – the whole family has great cooks, and when everybody brings food, its the best buffet on the planet. I also get a kick out of the people who think I’m lying to them when they ask what kind of group it is, and I tell them its a family reunion.

  120. 1011

    re 111: “Highly regulated and done only with government permission.” Janet S, you mean like the oil industry, the auto industry, the steel industry, the carpet cleaning industry,the textile industry, the aerospace industry — stuff like that. Halliburton NO BID CONTRACTS. GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED BONING OF THE GENERAL POPULATION THROUGH GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED GAS PRICE GOUGING.

    You worthless , divisive , un- American CREEP, jANET s!

  121. 1012

    I have always been a staunch Republican. I have even managed to ignore the obvious betrayals of the Neocons to the conservative Republican values of fiscal responsibility and restraint in international affairs.

    But this lady in the “Dates for Democrats” blogads is making me feel kind of funny. There she is with her basketball, ponytail, winning smile and pert …. Nothing at all like the frumpish bagladies in the Republican party.

    Well, I am thinking that perhaps I cannot forgive the neocons anymore!

    I am voting Democratic this year!

    Does anyone know how I can get in touch with that lovely lass?

    Commentby I feel funny— 6/13/06@ 8:18 pm

    Let me present Maureen Dowd! You can go for it.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

Our fearless leader Nick tells me that Matt Weinstein from “Washington Won’t Discriminate” and Lisa Noble-Rennick from the “Northwest Energy Coalition” will be stopping by to talk about their ballot initiative campaigns. Also, today is primary day in several states and we’ll be eagerly watching the returns roll in… especially those from the special election in CA-50 to replace the convicted Duke Cunningham.

And if you happen to be a liberal drinker on the other side of the mountains, the Tri-Cities chapter of DL also meets Tuesday nights, 7 PM, Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd., in Richland. Go ask Jimmy for more details.

Comments

  1. 1013

    NICE GOldy….

    Isn’t there a Parent teachers meeting you should be at instead?

    Drink up “Dad of the year”

  2. 1014

    Taxes are to Democrat politicians as Crack is to the addict, they can never get enough, and they will hurt those who get in the way of their supply.

  3. 1015

    One would thing that rather than spending his money drinking weekly with The Seattle Chapeter of The Liberal Lonely Hearts Club, goldstein could find better use for it… like providing his daughter with an education…. unless of course the school whining he’s been doing on his daughters “behalf’ is really just exploiting his daughter.

  4. 1016

    Just a reminder that the right’s hero, Lush Flimbaugh is pissing into a cup today in front of his probation officer. Setting a fine example for little right wing kids to follow when they grow up! I can just see it now.

    “Daddy, can you get me into the National Guard so I don’t have to go to Iraq and can I get some OC to dull the pain?”

  6. 1018

    Goldy—
    Maybe you will find a “LIFE-PARTNER” tonite.
    I’m sure most of you KLOWNS as confused about your sexuality as you are about right & wrong!
    Bring up Lads!!!

  7. 1019

    You need a new riff, lefty… that one is stale… kinda like your poor pathetic political party.

  8. 1020

    I understand that in honor of “6/6/6–mark-of-the-beast day”, NBC had Ann Coulter as a guest on “Today”.

  9. 1021

    hcybProudtbAss probably sees no irony in his berating LeftTurn in a thread JCH (bitchslap, above.)

  11. 1023

    Again, it is time to laud Goldy for putting up this venue to display the Republifuck troll Bestiary in all it’s pustulent,oozing glory. No folks, in your wildest,nightmarish could you imagine this cast of rightwingwhackjobs. All you have to do is visit the comments section on HA and you can observe first hand the shipwreck that the Republican Party has become.
    Goldy who correctly called the decision on the Washington State Gubernatorial recount, and highlighted the motherbeating past of David Irons, and consistently brings a spotlight onto the hypocrisy and lies of the Neocon Right,has earned their unending, undying hatred. At every opportunnity they display their pathetic, partisanship and pysochopathic vitriole. . .right here, at one of the shining examples of the First Amendment in action.
    Even you sad, pathetic right wing trolls serve a purpose here, a sort of community service, to thoroughly air out you leprotic,necrosis called republicanism.

  12. 1024

    nice try treefrog… Unfortunately we are all aware at what a scumbag goldy is.

    Here’s a quick quiz.

    Should a father whose kids school is closing:
    A. be home with the child to offer emotional support.
    B. get involved with the school board to make sure these situations do not happen to others.
    C. Go out drinking with the retards shown in last Wed. Seattle PI?

  13. 1025

    Could it be, does momus expect us to take these statements attacking Goldy (and, suppose, those of us who attend DL) seriously?

    Could these whack jobs actually think we, or anyone with a smidgen of sense, would feel chagrin over their idiotic slanders?

    Are these nuts the modern day versions of Carrie Nation? Are their feeble cluckings their version of Carrie’s hatchet???????

    Away, away with rum, by gum
    With rum, by gum
    With rum, by gum
    Away, away with rum, by gum
    That’s the song of the Temperance Union

    We never eat cookies, because they have yeast,
    And one little bite turns a man to a beast;
    Oh can you imagine a sadder disgrace,
    Than a man in the gutter with crumbs on his face?

  14. 1026

    If you wash your hair, never rinse it with beer
    Because if you do, you’ll get foam in your ear;
    And if there’s one thing a young man must dread
    It’s dating a girl with a head on her head;

    Away, away with rum, by gum
    With rum, by gum
    With rum, by gum
    Away, away with rum, by gum
    That’s the song of the Temperance Union.

  15. 1027

    Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL, even though no GOP trolls will be there tonight because they’ll all be attending Satan-worshipping services.

  16. 1028

    What, we aren’t meeting down in Olympia to see if Darth Evader Eyman shows up? :-)

  17. 1029

    William J Jefferson, DEMOCRAT, LA [hehe]

  18. 1030

    Good old DEKE Cunningham is doing the right proud tonight sucking another dick at the federal penn as he serves the longest prison sentence given any congressman in history. Anothe proud moment for the right. And this one has consequences. GOP registrations outnumber Democratic registrations in Cunningham’s 50th district 3 to 2. No Dem has ever held that seat. But today in the special election, the Dem is running neck and neck with the GOP candidate and the republican party has had to spend millions defending a seat they would normally win in a cakewalk. No matter how the election comes out, the Dems win on this one!

  19. 1031

    No matter how the election comes out, the Dems win on this one!

    Commentby LeftTurn [………………………………………………………………..No, Left Turn, The Democrat [“All illegals alien votes must count!!”] will lose again. Book it. JCH

  20. 1032

    Note the press difference between William J Jefferson, DEMOCRAT, LA, and Duke Cuningham. No MSM bias here!!! [hehe]

  21. 1033

    18, Left Turn…How many MIGs have you shot down? Tell us about YOUR military service!! [hehe] JCH

  22. 1034

    Democrats get on their high horses about evil corporations making obscene profits, but try pointing out to them that Democrat trial lawyers also make enormous profits suing corporations owned by people who make less than trial lawyers. They think you’re just being obtuse for not understanding that trial lawyers are doing God’s work.

    Halliburton helps produce the oil and gasoline that keep us warm, feed us, allow us to travel, power our world, and so on. What do Democrat trial lawyers produce again?

  25. 1037

    A US Navy cruiser anchored in Mississippi for a week’s shore leave. The first evening, the ship’s Captain received the following note from the wife of a wealthy plantation owner:

    “Dear Captain, Thursday will be my daughter Melinda’s Debutante Ball. I would like you to send four well mannered, handsome, unmarried officers in their formal dress uniforms to attend the dance. They should arrive promptly at 8:00 PM prepared for an evening of polite Southern conversation. They should be excellent dancers, as they will be the escorts of lovely refined young ladies. One last point: No Jews Please.”

    At precisely 8:00 PM on Thursday, Melinda’s mother heard a polite rap at the door which she opened to find, in full dress uniform, four handsome, smiling black officers. Her mouth fell open, but pulling herself together, she stammered, “There must be some mistake.” ” No, Madam,” said the first officer. “Captain Sharkansky never makes mistakes.”

  26. 1038

    Is it just me or is the person posting under the absurd name….

    “Commentby REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX”

    just batshit crazy?

    I literally cannot understand what this fool is trying to say 90% of the time. Is there someone else here who can translate batshit talk?

  27. 1039

    LeftTurn
    Understanding “Batshit” requires the suppression of all ability to reason. You must also give up any expectation of coherence. Likewise, punctuation and natural pauses in written expressions are ignored. It is a language much like that which parrots speak. The native Batshit speaker just spouts phrases which Rush Limbaugh or his ilk provide. True comprehension of whatever is expressed is not actually possible. Rather, becoming fluent in the language requires little more than the ability to repeat rightwing talking points, sometimes jumbling them together in such manner that the casual listener might think an actual statement is being made.

  28. 1040

    It’s a little past four p.m. right now. Where’s Timmy and what is he doing?

  29. 1041

    That’s just crazy old JCH under another name. People generally ignore him. Even if you could translate his bizarre ramblings, it wouldn’t make any sense. Medical science tells us advanced syphilis can do terrible things to the human brain. JCH is living proof thereof.

  30. 1042

    LeftTurn Translation what does trial lawyers produce?
    They hang in real dark places.
    Listen with their large very sensitive ears.
    They live most of their lives in the dark because their eyes sight is really poor.
    They prey on many different creatures and consume all their victims’ recourses.
    They consume their food and hang from their ceilings crapping all over the place.
    When they are not sleeping they fly around screaming that they are looking for something to survive on. (Ambulance chasing)
    Some of these little creatures (lawyers) are called vampire bats.
    So much about bat shit!

  31. 1043

    klake has supplied the translation from psychotic rambling to unintelligible gibberish. Any wingnuts want to try translating gibberish into troglodyte? Momus? Yo? MTR?

  32. 1044

    Hey Mark the Thieving Redneck – next time you bag my groceries put the damned CANNED FOOD ITEMS in the bottom, and double bag the heavy stuff, you DOLT

  33. 1045

    Klake
    Trial lawyers–together with our courts and juries–produce justice. I’m not being facetious in making that statement. Trial lawyers also produce accountability on the part of wrongdoers. They make our world safer. Republicans like to talk about personal responsibility, but they hate the concept in practice. They believe that corporations, public entities, and other tortfeasors should be able to fuck with individuals without consequence. Without the threat of litigation, the corporate plutocracy that rules this nation would have no checks or balances whatsoever. Without trial lawyers, individual rights would be an even more hollow concept than it has become under the Bush Administration. “Fragile as reason is, and limited as law is as the institutionalized medium of reason, that’s all we have between us and the tyranny of mere will and the cruelty of unbridled, undisciplined feelings.”

    -Felix Frankfurter (1882-1965)

  34. 1046

    Since we’re all going to die from global warming, I need to know how many of you kook moonbats will be riding ron sims’ empty buses to DL tonight. C’mon… “it’s the right thing to do.”

    Or are you all just a bunch of hypocrites?

  35. 1047

    Can one of you ask Miss Hyphen-Name if she has ever heard of the word “enthalpy”. Just wondering…

  36. 1048

    I always bus around man, except when I’m driving my greasecar.

    asshat

  38. 1050

    Ask Weinstein why anybody should get special privileges just because they like the feeling of a dick up their ass.

    Just wondering…

  40. 1052

    sounds like the hetero’s are getting the *special* priveleges…

    MTR, it must *suck* to be you

  42. 1054

    MTR:

    What special prvilidges do you get because you like having a dick in you ass?

    And when are you going to pay your debt?

  44. 1056

    Speaking of getting something shoved up your ass… looks like R65 will be on the ballot this fall.

    The People will make the final decision on this, not the kooks in the legislature and not the kooks on the court.

    Tough shit. Live with it…

  46. 1058

    I literally cannot understand what this fool is trying to say 90% of the time. Is there someone else here who can translate batshit talk?

    Commentby LeftTurn— 6/6/06@ 3:51 pm […………………………………………………………………..OK…..Let’s try again. Left Turn, tell us about YOUR military service? Is that clear?]

  47. 1059

    A US Navy cruiser anchored in Mississippi for a week’s shore leave. The first evening, the ship’s Captain received the following note from the wife of a wealthy plantation owner:

    “Dear Captain, Thursday will be my daughter Melinda’s Debutante Ball. I would like you to send four well mannered, handsome, unmarried officers in their formal dress uniforms to attend the dance. They should arrive promptly at 8:00 PM prepared for an evening of polite Southern conversation. They should be excellent dancers, as they will be the escorts of lovely refined young ladies. One last point: No Jews Please.”

    At precisely 8:00 PM on Thursday, Melinda’s mother heard a polite rap at the door which she opened to find, in full dress uniform, four handsome, smiling black officers. Her mouth fell open, but pulling herself together, she stammered, “There must be some mistake.” ” No, Madam,” said the first officer. “Captain Sharkansky never makes mistakes.”

    Commentby klake— 6/6/06@ 3:48 pm [………………………………………………………………………………..Klake, as a Naval Officer [77-84] I find your post ignorant and ill informed. I can tell you have never served in uniform by the subject of your post. Like Goldy, Left Turn and other liberals that post on HA.ORG, you are truely uninformed.]

  49. 1061

    Left Turn…How many MIGs have you shot down? Tell us about YOUR military service!! [hehe] JCH

  50. 1062

    Taxes are to Democrat politicians as Crack is to the addict, they can never get enough, and they will hurt those who get in the way of their supply.

  51. 1063

    It would appear that Tim has lied to John Carlson, who has said that he would have 200,000 sigs:

    Referendum 65, a measure aimed at repealing Washington’s gay-rights law, will not be on the November ballot.

    Tim Eyman came up short in getting enough signatures to qualify Ref. 65. State law required the campaign to turn in 112,440 signatures of registered voters by 5 p.m. today. Eyman said they collected 105,103 signatures.

    Ballot measure supporters generally need to collect 25 to 30 percent more signatures than required to make sure they have enough valid signatures to qualify.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....f6506.html

  53. 1065

    Good God, JCH is still claiming to be “in the Navy.” As is well known, JCH is only “in the Navy” in the sense that he is a gay prostitute who mostly blows Phillipino sailors. Anyone who has read any of his post know that the United States Navy would never let a self-loathing racist homosexual like him into its ranks, more or less into the officer corps.

  54. 1066

    KVI now reporting Eyman did not have enough signatures, after Carlson just talked it up at 4:30p saying how voters would use it to show there anger if the Supreme Court ruling comes out against conservatives on the Gay Marriage issue.

    Let’s see if Carlson has any intergrity tomorrow and reams Eyman for continuing his lies.

    KPLU now also reporting it. Eyman claims 105,000 sigs, but I wonder if he has any proof of that.

    So, as of midnight tonight, you can no longer discriminate against JCH and other homosexuals.

  55. 1067

    A lot of people are going to give Tim Eyman permission to perform a homosexual act — as in “Tim Eyman can …”

  56. 1068

    Dean Logan managed to miss yesterday’s Public Hearing about FORCED Vote-by-mail with the excuse that he had a Conference in Spokane for Election Officials.

    The only problem Dean is that the Conference started TODAY!
    Most of the Election Officials flew in or drove over TODAY!
    Not Deano.
    Isn’t it interesting that the PROMOTER of FORCED Vote-by-mail would prioritize leaving a day early over listening to Public Comment and being available to the Council & Public for questions??? It would make a reasonable think he was dodging the Public. What could have been more important than this???

    Logan’s actions speak volumes.

  57. 1069

    Tim Eyman should be wearing an asbestos suit today 06/06/06, because he can go STRAIGHT TO HELL.

  58. 1070

    Here is the PI’s first story:

    Eyman, appearing at the state elections division just minutes before closing time Tuesday, said he and allies had collected 105,103 signatures. That’s fewer than the 112,440 bare minimum and considerably less than the 130,000 that is suggested in order to cover duplicate or invalid signatures.

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....n06ww.html

  59. 1071

    Could this be the end for Darth Timmy? Who is going to want to put time, effort or money into his tax initiative after this performance?

  60. 1072

    This shows that the Taliban wing of the GOP is LOOOOOOSING traction in this state. Perhaps this is a strong sign to the inbred wingnuts that hang out here on HA that they’re in the wrong place? Wouldn’t you morons be better off in Alabama or Mississippi or some other third world country? You look like fools tonight. The churches that got involved look like fools tonight. The biggots look like IMPOTENT fools tonight. And Timmy, well he looks like a fool all the time. Even the whackjob right will probably abandon him after this! HE HE!

  61. 1073

    “Since we’re all going to die from global warming…

    Commentby Mark The Redneck Kennedy”

    Okay you first dicksucker. Die that is.

  62. 1074

    Even the whackjob right will probably abandon him after this! HE HE!

    Commentby LeftTurn— 6/6/06@ 5:19 pm

    I wouldn’t use the same terminology you have chosen, but I hope you are correct.

  63. 1075

    Pope
    I actually agree with you on something–that would be hoping that Timmy disappears. Is it personal, or do you think the initiative process is being abused?

  64. 1076

    Good God, JCH is still claiming to be “in the Navy.” As is well known, JCH is only “in the Navy” in the sense that he is a gay prostitute who mostly blows Phillipino sailors. Anyone who has read any of his post know that the United States Navy would never let a self-loathing racist homosexual like him into its ranks, more or less into the officer corps.

    Commentby JDB […………………………………………………………………JDB, LT, USN, 1110, 77-84……………And you??? Yeah, I thought so.]

  65. 1077

    Pope
    I actually agree with you on something–that would be hoping that Timmy disappears. Is it personal, or do you think the initiative process is being abused?

    Commentby proud leftist— 6/6/06@ 5:27 pm

    I would say a combination of the two. I have realized for some time that Timmy was a phony, and suspected him of being a profiteer long before it became public knowledge. Basically, the GOP has been worshipping Timmy as some kind of false god. And that group of pastors joined in this same worship of Timmy this year.

  66. 1078

    [Just a Cocksucking Hypocrit]:

    General, British High Command, 46-54.

    Look, I can make stuff up too. Please, there is no way the United States Navy would let a self loathing racist fool like you in its ranks, more or less in the officer corps. You have eymaned again.

  67. 1079

    65
    Thanks for a straight answer. The deification of dumbshits, on both sides of the partisan aisle, can sure make a guy shake his head sometimes.

  68. 1080

    JDB, William J Jefferson, DEMOCRAT, LA [hehe]

  69. 1081

    JDB, William J Jefferson, DEMOCRAT, LA [hehe]

  70. 1082

    22

    “What do Democrat trial lawyers produce again?”

    Deterrence.

    Lie to investors — you get sued.
    Sell harmful products — you get sued.
    Pollute the environment — you get sued.
    Rip off shareholders — you get sued.
    Discriminate against someone — you get sued.

    I’m not a trial lawyer, but I’m proud of my brother (and sister) lawyers who are.

  71. 1083

    22 (continued)

    And who did the REPUBICANS run to after they LOST the governor’s election?

    Trial lawyers.

  72. 1084

    [………………………………………………………………………………..Klake, as a Naval Officer [77-84] I find your post ignorant and ill informed. I can tell you have never served in uniform by the subject of your post. Like Goldy, Left Turn and other liberals that post on HA.ORG, you are truely uninformed.]

    Commentby REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX]— 6/6/06@ 4:57 pm

    REP Pat Kennedy sorry about hurting your feelings but you have never come to port in Portland during the Rose Festival. Now the ladies all come out dress up just to date a nice Sailor. The local Churches open the doors and provide dancing girls, plus cool aid for refreshments, and a place to sleep for the night. You are right I was not in the Navy, but some of my family members did serve.

  73. 1085

    ALABAMA DEMOCRAT PRIMARY – SIEG HEIL MAN DOING BETTER THAN SIEGELMAN

    In the Alabama Democrat primary for Attorney General, with 37% of precincts reporting, Holocaust denier and atheism activist Larry Darby is polling 46% of the vote.

    http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/.....e=dateline

    However, in the Alabama Democrat primary for Governor, indicted former Governor Don Siegelman, who spent election day being tried in federal court, only was polling 35% of the vote, with 32% of precincts reporting.

    http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/...../606060768

  74. 1086

    What do Democrat trial lawyers produce again?”

    Deterrence.

    Lie to investors – you get sued.
    Sell harmful products – you get sued.
    Pollute the environment – you get sued.
    Rip off shareholders – you get sued.
    Discriminate against someone – you get sued.

    Denied your right to vote because you are in the
    military and stationed in a liberal county- Er..ah.nevermind.

  75. 1087

    Your daughter gets killed by a drunk democratic
    senator – get elected for another term.

  76. 1088

    Rancho Santa Fe, Calif. — A former Republican congressman led in early results Tuesday in a solid GOP district where Democrats hoped to capitalize on a GOP corruption scandal and capture the House seat once held by Randy “Duke” Cunningham.

    The costly and contentious race between Republican Brian Bilbray and Democrat Francine Busby, a local school board member who ran against Cunningham in 2004, was closely watched as a possible early barometer of next fall’s vote.

    With 11 percent of precincts reporting in absentee voting, Bilbray led with 20,448 votes or 51 percent, followed by Busby with 17,329 votes or 43 percent.

  78. 1090

    JCH, question for ya, good buddy. Isn’t it true that you’ve signed posts on Stefan’s sucky little blog with both your initials, JCH, and your name, John Herman? http://www.soundpolitics.com/archives/003060.html

    P.S. – I’m not outing you … merely linking to your own posts in which you used your full name, which is not the same thing. Not that anyone gives a shit who are …

  79. 1091

    74

    “Denied your right to vote because you are in the
    military and stationed in a liberal county- Er..ah.nevermind.”
    Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 6/6/06@ 9:30 pm

    Go ahead, DUFUS, post this BULLSHIT as many times as you want, because I will debunk it every time you post it.

    FACT: All King County military ballots were mailed on or before the federal deadline, except for ballot requests received after that date

    FACT: Over 14,000 military/overseas ballots were counted by King County, while only 16 were rejected as late

    FACT: It is unknown how many of those 16 ballots were military ballots; possibly none of them were

    FACT: The percentage of military/overseas ballots that were returned is virtually identical to the turnout at home

    FACT: Any military voter who did not receive his ballot for any reason, could have voted by requesting a Federal Write In Ballot from his Unit Voting Assistance Officer

    FACT: Washington is the most lenient of all 50 states in allowing military voters to vote; military voters did even have to be registered to vote in Washington, nor did they have to know the name of the candidate they wanted to vote for; they could vote by writing the office and party preference (e.g., “Republican for governor”)

  80. 1092

    Who did Jeb Bush turn to when his drug addict daughter was arrested for the 12th time for smoking crack? Lawyers. When Bush needed to steal the 2000 election, who did he turn to? Lawyers. When Lush Flimbaugh got exposed as a drug dealing doctor shopping drug addict, who did he turn to? Lawyers. When that train-pulling, AIDS-infested cunt Ann Coulter got busted for illegally voting in the last election, who did she turn to? Lawyers.

    Republicans hate lawyers, except when they don’t!

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. I’ll be in particular need of a couple of drinks and some friendly conversation after the final school closure recommendations come out this afternoon, and the only changes will likely be to keep a couple North End schools open.

I’m told that 43rd Legislative District candidate Lynne Dodson will joining us tonight to slake her thirst after a round of doorbelling. Chances are I’ll probably talk her ear off about school closures too.

And if you happen to be a liberal drinker on the other side of the mountains, the Tri-Cities chapter of DL also meets Tuesday nights, 7 PM, Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd., in Richland. Go ask Jimmy for more details.

Comments

  2. 1094

    Why are they keeping North End schools open, when so few parents in the North End send their children to public schools?

    They need to get rid of this entire bussing nonsense, divide Seattle into attendance zones like every other school district in the state, and send children to their local neighborhood school.

    This would probably save Graham Hill, and shut down a number of schools in the North End. Or maybe even North End schools could reopen, if parents didn’t have their children bussed over half of creation.

    This would also cut transportation costs by at least $5 million, and allow that money to be used to actually improve children’s education.

  3. 1095

    Damn, I’m in bellingham til next weekend. I may come to the next one though

  4. 1096

    2 – Everything I’ve read claims that the Northend school’s enrollment is expected to rise. I know there’s a waiting list for my kid’s school every year.

  5. 1097

    Huh? Must mean something else…uh…”rose” about six years and nine months ago. (snerk!)

  6. 1098

    Damn, I’m in bellingham til next weekend. I may come to the next one though
    Commentby Schizophonic (D. John)— 5/30/06@ 2:02 pm

    I’m sure those KLOWNS in attendence will grieve your absence.
    I mean anybody with the courage to call themselves DiJon Schizo can only raise the groups social status.

  7. 1099

    I haven’t been attending DL the last couple weeks because I was held PRISONER in a fucking fascist CONCENTRATION CAMP where they perform MEDICAL EXPERIMENTS on rabbits!!! Now that I’m out, the NAZI BASTARDS probably have a contract out on my furry ass just because I gave DOCTOR MENGELE a teeny little scratch in his fucking GONADS. Sheesh — he would’ve CUT MINE OFF if he could’ve!!! What does he expect, the NAZI BASTARD. Don’t put it past the FASCIST REPUBLICANS to put a rabbit trap outside the door.

  8. 1100

    Why don’t you gullible idiots put your heads together tonight and figure out what the fuck you’re going to do about me….

    None of you were able to provide even a shred of scientific evidence that shows global warming is beyond natural variations. Shit, that kinda blows a hole in your alarmist rhetoric doesn’t it?

    But have fun at “church” talking about it. Be sure to worship your hero Algore

  10. 1102

    Here’s another idea for you gullible fools… if you’re so upset about global warming, why not do the usual librul reaction?

    Just outlaw it. Do what you hafta do, but get a law passed outlawing global warming. You can get Ron Sims to do some more of that “extraordinary leadership” that Goldy mentioned. I’m sure the kooks who run Seattle would go for it too.

    I’m sure Statesman Murray and Gouger Fighter Cantwell would get behind it too.

    Problem solved…

  11. 1103

    MTR and the other REAL gullible troll fucks:

    How about this; back when Sen. Bill Frist-flopper was diagnosing Terri Schivo as having visual stimuli y’all said we should error on the side of life.

    If us lefties are wrong about global warming the worse thing that happens is that we try to keep our environment cleaner.

    If you conservatives are wrong the human race becomes extinct.

    Now explain again why we should error on the side of life? Mr. “Culture of Life” Neocon.

  12. 1104

    Hey MTR instead of trying to solve the planet’s climate problems why don’t you start with something a little less ambitious like paying your gambling debts? Let’s see if you can handle that, first.

  13. 1105

    A Washington Post magazine article on “global warming” includes this howler:

    James Hansen, the prominent NASA scientist, points out that the models don’t realistically include ice sheets and the biosphere–all the plants and animals on Earth. The global climate surely has more surprises for us. . . .

    Hansen thinks we have less than 10 years to make drastic cuts in greenhouse emissions, lest we reach a “tipping point” at which the climate will be out of our control.

    Someone might want to take Hansen aside and explain that the climate has always been out of our control.

  14. 1106

    Mark the inverted penis redneck….truthfully no normal blogger here gives a shht about welshing bile like yourself….try the koolaid gang @ uSP or better yet hookup with Jamet the Ugly American…a match made in HELL

  15. 1107

    13

    By your logic, floods caused by poorly constructed dams are out of our control, too. After all, what human force can hold back all that water, once the dam gaves way? It’s an impossibility. Floods from collapsing dams are inevitable; all we mere mortals can do is give tort immunity to the incompetent engineers and cheapskate developers who built the dam the cheapest way possible in order to maximize profits.

  16. 1108

    Whether we’re just on the upside of some natural cycle, or we’ve managed to mess with things enough to affect the process, it takes someone in really heavy denial to make believe there isn’t **something** going on. I mean, c’mon folks…there are cruise lines offering voyages to the North Pole, for crying out loud.

    What I’d really like to know is how many red-blooded conservatives are investing in beachfront property nowadays. I’ll betcha it’s about as many as were buying up airline stocks in early September of 2001.

  18. 1110

    Of course there are cruise lines going to wherever… IT’S CALLED CAPITALISM AND CAPITALIZING ON NEW AND UNTAPPED IDEA!!!!…it’s the same damned reason the Russians are offering trips (FOR A PRICE) on their space shuttles!

    Only liberal arrogance can claim humans have enough power to “mess up” weather patterns.

  19. 1111

    16

    “Whether we’re just on the upside of some natural cycle, or we’ve managed to mess with things enough to affect the process”

    Probably both. The difference is that natural cycles occur over geologic time, giving human and animal populations ample time to adapt, whereas the human impact on the climate seems to be occurring within a few decades.

  20. 1112

    16

    “What I’d really like to know is how many red-blooded conservatives are investing in beachfront property nowadays.” Commentby ArtFart— 5/30/06@ 9:17 pm

    You’re underestimating these people. They WANT global warming to happen, because the Montana acreage they bought cheap will vastly appreciate after it becomes beachfront property.

  21. 1113

    17

    “Welcome back Roger Rabbit… I take it the lobotomy went well?”
    Commentby howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS— 5/30/06@ 9:17 pm

    Ask DOCTOR MENGELE that question — he’s the one who’s recovering from, ahem, surgery.

  22. 1114

    18

    “Only liberal arrogance can claim humans have enough power to “mess up” weather patterns.” Commentby howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS— 5/30/06@ 9:21 pm

    First of all, there is no such thing as “liberal arrogance.” The fact we’re right and you’re wrong about nearly everything doesn’t make us arrogant, it’s simply a reflection of the reality that educated people who rely on scientific method and, by the way, are habitually tentative about their conclusions are statistically more likely to reach correct conclusions than ignorant uneducated fucks who shun knowledge and base their belief system on a dartboard. It’s not arrogance to acknowledge that knowledge earned through academic discipline is qualitatively superior to willful stupidity.

    Secondly, nearly every reputable scientist qualified to have an opinion on the subject now believes that human activities are indeed altering the earth’s climate. By the way, Ass, for you ignorant fucks, “weather” is not the same as “climate” and the issue is not what the weather is going to be but the possibility that human-induced atmospheric warming may render the land were roughly half of humanity currently lives uninhabitable. Since you’re too stupid to understand what that implies, I’ll spell it out for you: Economic collapse, political turmoil, conflict, and population die-off. A lot of those people will simply die because they have no place to go, comprende? And others — those with the means — will try to TAKE land occupied by others when the land they currently occupy is no longer inhabitable. That’s called “war,” and it kills lots of people.

    Now, us really smart liberals know you can’t just turn off all the internal combustion engines, power plants, home heating furnaces, etc., overnight. All we’re saying is, humanity needs to work faster to transition from fossil fuels to next-generation energy technologies. We can’t stop climate changes that will occur naturally anyway, but we don’t need to, because those changes occur over geologic time — thousands of years. We do need, however, to arrest mankind’s spewing of greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere as quickly as possible. If we don’t, there will be various consequences for humanity, none of them good.

    As for you wilfully ignorant fucks, go ahead and stand in the middle of the tracks and tell yourselves the train will get out of your way. Just don’t make us stand there with you. That’s all we’re saying. If you want to commit suicide, jump off a fucking bridge. But you have no right to make the rest of humanity commit suicide with you.

  23. 1115

    18 (continued)

    You’re damned fucking right humans have the power to mess up the climate.

  24. 1116

    GBS THE PISS ANT YOU SEEM TO KNOW ABOUT EVERYTHING.HOW COME THEY BOOTED YOU OUT OF THE NAVY.BIG FUCKING DEAL THE CLIMATE HAS CHANGED ONE DEGREE IN THE LAST 100 YEARS.THE SHY IS FALLING. FUCK YOUR CLIMATE

  26. 1118

    Any conservative care to take a crack at the philosophical question I posed at 11?

    What if you conservatives are wrong about the effect of rapid climate change caused by humans?

    I guess Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, R-Calif., is some crazy, moonbat, left-wing lunatic now, huh?

    Here’s what he said: “The science is in. The facts are there that we have created, man has, a self-inflicted wound that man has created through global warming.”

    http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek.....038;page=1

    What is it with you conservatives that you don’t believe in science?

  27. 1119

    24

    “Yo” is a contraction of the word “yahoo” (as in “trailer park yahoo”) and is properly spelled “Y’o.” Y’o, like most wingfucks, can’t even spell his own fucking name! much less a big word like “sky.”

    As for temperature changes, scientists who have worked on reconstructing temperature records for the last 1,000 years agree on two salient points:

    1. The 20th century was the warmest century of the last 10 centuries; and
    2. The rate of warming is accelerating, with the 0.6 degree (+ or 1 0.2) Centigrade increase of the last 100 years expected to increase another 1.4 to 5.8 degrees C. over the next 100 years.

  29. 1121

    The really scary “conservatives” are the ones who think it’s okay to wreck the planet because the Rapture is coming soon and we’re all going to die anyway.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Please join us for cheers, jeers and beers as we discuss this week’s political happenings… but don’t talk to me unless you’re ready to hear me rant about school closings.

I may be a little late, as I plan to stop by Seattle’s Town Hall to hear Democratic political strategist Celinda Lake and conservative pollster Kellyanne Conway talk about their new book: What Women Really Want: How American Women Are Quietly Erasing Political, Racial, Class, and Religious Lines to Change the Way We Live. 7:30 pm, 8th & Seneca, tickets are $5 at the door.

And if you happen to be a liberal drinker on the other side of the mountains, the Tri-Cities chapter of DL also meets Tuesday nights, 7 PM, Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd., in Richland. Go ask Jimmy for more details.

Comments

  1. 1122

    And Tacoma DL meets tomorrow night at 8 p.m. onward.

    Location: Meconi’s Pub, 709 Pacific Ave

  2. 1123

    The Burien DL meets tomorrow night also, if memory serves. (Mick Kelly’s on 152d).

    Man, gotta’ lay off that cheap wine.

  3. 1124

    Spokane meets every Wednesday night at:

    Red Lion BBQ & Pub
    126 N Division St
    Spokane, WA
    99202

  4. 1125

    Goldy-

    Maybe if you had read up on what women really want yours and your daughter’s lives would be a little simpler……..

  5. 1126

    Women are the most powerful force reshaping the future of America. Stronger than political parties, mightier than religious differences, able to leap cultural schisms in a single bound, women are quietly exerting a unified power to make changes in our culture and in commerce, meeting in the middle to achieve their goals. But they’re not using traditional means such as getting together and voting or banging on closed doors to demand equal access. In virtually every arena where American women are causing a sea change, they are bypassing the traditional settings that ignore their needs and are creating parallel circuits, which, in turn, then affect the old standards. Across political, religious, racial, and class differences, this new, vital, female center is heralding the most significant change in American culture in the past century.

    Now what load of BS and who will take care of the men?

  7. 1128

    Looks like Fidel didn’t out grow his Oedipus Complex.

    Seems to be a trend among conservative males. Especially JCH, Mr Cynical, MTR, and all the other self-ascribed fake “Kennedy’s.”

  8. 1129

    No, JCH wasn’t notified because Supply Officers who lie about their supposed “military” service were excluded from the list.

    Commentby GBS [………..That’s LT, USN, 1110, to you, E-3 GBS. Maybe a little brig time might help you to remember your military bearing.]

    Commentby REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX]— 5/23/06@ 11:48 am

    “Maybe a little brig time might help you to remember your military bearing.]

    Commentby REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX]— 5/23/06@ 11:48 am”

    Maybe a little “confessional” time might help you with your lying.

    Commentby GBS— 5/23/06@ 3:36 pm

  11. 1132

    Here is a list of Republican lies. Since they have been compiled, I really can’t imagine that there will be anything for Puddy, JCH, Richard Pope, Mark the Yellowback, Ms. Chickenhawk, Janet S, etc. etc. etc. to post:

    Stephen Colbert was not funny.

    Helen Thomas is old and batty.
    Mexicans are taking our jobs.
    Iraq sent its WMDs to Syria.
    Democrats don’t want to wiretap terrorists.
    Joe Wilson admitted that Valerie Plame wasn’t covert.
    Karl Rove has a faulty memory.
    Scooter Libby has a faulty memory.
    Tom DeLay is like Jesus Christ.
    No one could have anticipated that the levees would be breached.
    We do not torture.
    There is no global warming.
    There is global warming, but humans didn’t cause it.
    Howard Dean can’t raise money.
    John F. Kerry is a flip-flopper.
    George W. Bush is a decider.
    John McCain is a straight-shooter.
    Dick Cheney is a sober shooter.
    Nobody at the White House knows Jack Abramoff.
    Democrats do.
    The economy is great.
    Evolution isn’t supported by the facts.
    Diebold voting machines are secure.
    Fox News is fair and balanced.
    Mission accomplished.
    Bill Clinton did it too.
    No one could have anticipated the Iraqi insurgency.
    The budget deficit will be cut in half in four years.
    Anyone who thinks Dubai shouldn’t control our ports is racist.
    No one who thinks we should build a wall along the Mexican border is racist.
    George Allen isn’t a racist… anymore.
    Terry Schiavo wants to live.
    Andrea Clark wants to die.
    We’ve turned a corner in Iraq.
    There’s a war on Christmas.
    There’s a war on Easter.
    There’s no civil war in Iraq.
    The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.
    Up is down.
    Black is white.

    And the list goes on. Check it out: http://americablog.blogspot.co.....-lies.html

    Oh, and from a local view:

    There was vote fraud in the 2004 Washington election.
    Stephan’s last name is Sharkansky.
    Mr. Sharanskty publishes truthful information.

    Feel free to add on.

  12. 1133

    “What JCH really wants in a big black man to dominate him.

    Commentby JDB— 5/23/06@ 4:22 pm”

    You mean the same way the “Duke-ster,” a former Navy fighter pilot and MOH nominee is being forced to take it in the ass from BIG black men in prison for cigarettes that he gives to his pimp for protection?

    Yeaaahhhhhh, JCH fantasizes about BIG black men pounding him in the ass the same way he fantasizes about being a fighter pilot and doing something brave like other MEN.

    Baaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa

    You NEVER should’ve lied about your fucking military service. You dick suck.

  13. 1134

    JDB @ 11:

    I’d like to add this lie to your list:

    I never attended flight school. Hence, I never “washed out”. All a figment of GBS’s vivid “imagination”.

  14. 1135

    Not for pussies. I washed out of Naval Air [bad GI] and served Surface Line

    Comment by JCH — 1/24/06 @ 4:37 pm

  15. 1136

    There is nothing funnier than beating the shit out of a conservative while he’s down.

    JCH, my foot is on your throat and it’s never, ever coming off.

    I always win, you always come in 2nd. Which means you’re the first LOSER!!

  16. 1137

    YO:

    Fuck, you’re such an idiot. In life, like your childhood, you’ll always be the last kid picked when choosing teams. That’s why you wound up being a conservative. Nobody wanted you.

    Dumb shit.

  18. 1139

    JCH,

    When you’re trolling around over at (un)SP, do let the yum-yums know that you got caught lying on HA blog about your military service?

  20. 1141

    News Flash News Flash the Democrats are going to scare the Republicans across the nation. WOW!

    Dear Klake,

    On June 6th, all eyes will be on California’s 50th Congressional District.

    If Democrat Francine Busby wins the California special election on June 6th, her victory would send a shockwave through the political establishment. If Francine even comes close to winning in this solid Republican district, no Republican will be able to feel “safe” for the next six months. Just listen to how the Associated Press described it…
    “Randy ‘Duke’ Cunningham’s former congressional district is a classic safe seat, custom-designed to generate Republican wins. But with Cunningham jailed in a mushrooming political scandal, the San Diego-area seat is now one the GOP cannot afford to lose.” – AP, 5/14/06
    New polls show this California special election to be neck and neck with only two weeks left. With Dick Cheney in San Diego raking in millions for Francine’s opponent, we still have an uphill battle in this race. But we are not walking away from the fight. Not when we are fighting for change in Washington – not when we’re fighting to win.

    No Regrets: Help make sure we can give Francine Busby and challengers like her everything they need to fight back against the Bush/Cheney cash machine. Give $25, $50 or more today.

    The DCCC has already spent more than one million dollars supporting Francine against incredible odds, and it is working. We have aired television and radio ads in Busby’s district for weeks; exposing her Republican opponent’s disgraceful and ongoing career in the revolving door between Republican lobbyists and Congress.

    In a top-tier media market like San Diego, one week of 30-second television ads can cost as much as $400,000. If every person on our list gave us $25, we would be able to keep up with Republican spending in this and other targeted districts across the country.

    No Regrets: Help make sure we can give Francine Busby and challengers like her everything they need to fight back against the Bush/Cheney cash machine. Give $25, $50 or more today.

    The Republicans underestimated Francine, and they underestimated how hard the DCCC would battle for her. Democrats will not roll over this year, and Republicans are learning that the hard way right now. We’ve helped Francine bring this race within striking distance and we need to make sure we are ready for the dirty, desperate tactics the Republicans are planning.

    Will you make a contribution today so we can afford to keep up the fight in this and other races across the country?

    In an important sense, Francine’s inspirational campaign, a model for clean campaigns everywhere, has already won. Our Republican counterpart, the NRCC, has blown a staggering $3 million on a race they earlier bragged about having in the bag. They haven’t spent a dime in this district for more than a decade – and now they are eating up resources they were counting on saving to use in November.

    Everyone at the DCCC is working day and night to make sure we’re positioned to keep going blow for blow with the NRCC, Dick Cheney, and Karl Rove. But we cannot win without your support.

    Will you join the DCCC, and prove to the Republicans their reign is coming to an end?

    No Regrets: Help make sure we can give Francine Busby and challengers like her everything they need to fight back against the Bush/Cheney cash machine. Give $25, $50 or more today.

    A new era is beginning. Thanks in advance for helping make it happen.

    Sincerely,

    Karin Johanson
    Executive Director, DCCC

  21. 1142

    Observation – GBS is quite the bore with no content to his posts. This is my opinion and I approve of this post.

  22. 1143

    Observation – sillyguy posts a truly boring post complaining about what he observes as a boring post.

  23. 1144

    Karl Rove has a faulty memory.
    Scooter Libby has a faulty memory.

    Hmmmmmm….. Do you mean faulty like this:

    ARKANSAS ALTZHEIMER’S
    Number of times that Clinton figures who testified in court or before Congress said that they didn’t remember, didn’t know, or something similar.
    Bill Kennedy 116
    Harold Ickes 148
    Ricki Seidman 160
    Bruce Lindsey 161
    Bill Burton 191
    Mark Gearan 221
    Mack McLarty 233
    Neil Egglseston 250
    Hillary Clinton 250
    John Podesta 264
    Jennifer O’Connor 343
    Dwight Holton 348
    Patsy Thomasson 420
    Jeff Eller 697

  24. 1145

    Why has the Bush Crime Family gotten away with their crimes for so long?
    Because they will never allow themselves to be investigated, and the inept rubber stamp Republican congress refuses to participate in the constitutional created system of checks and balances.
    Republicans = crooks, freeloaders and inept traitors.

    The NSA denies security clearance to the Justice department to investigate the NSA
    “The government has abruptly ended an inquiry into the warrantless eavesdropping program because the National Security Agency refused to grant Justice Department lawyers the necessary security clearance to probe the matter.
    The inquiry headed by the Justice Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility, or OPR, sent a fax to Rep. Maurice Hinchey, D-N.Y., on Wednesday saying they were closing their inquiry because without clearance their lawyers cannot examine Justice lawyers’ role in the program.
    “We have been unable to make any meaningful progress in our investigation because OPR has been denied security clearances for access to information about the NSA program,”
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12727867

    The NSA denies clearance to the FCC to investigate phone record data mining by the NSA
    “The U.S. Federal Communications Commission will not pursue complaints about a spy agency’s access to millions of telephone records because it cannot obtain classified material, the FCC’s chairman said in a letter released on Tuesday.
    Rep. Edward Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat, had asked communications regulators to investigate a newspaper report that AT&T Inc., Verizon Communications and BellSouth Corp. gave access to and turned over call records to the National Security Agency.
    “The classified nature of the NSA’s activities makes us unable to investigate the alleged violations,” FCC Chairman Kevin Martin said in the May 22 letter to Markey.”
    http://tinyurl.com/ozppq

    The Republicans have never met a constitution they couldn’t ignore.

  25. 1146

    Rufus Cheney at 23:

    Thank you for using Wingbat Excuse 26:

    “Bill Clinton did it too.”

    Wow, like any right winger, you have nothing new to add.

  26. 1147

    “Bill Clinton did it too.”

    Wow, like any right winger, you have nothing new to add.

    Commentby JDB— 5/23/06@ 7:50 pm

    I know, nothing new with Clinton. He was afterall the most corrupt president ever.

  27. 1148

    Come on Rufus Cheney, you can’t even say that with a straight face. After five years of lies and corruption, a great economy, peace and prosperity can’t be wiped out even in your mind by a little blow job…, or is it just that you feel bad because no one will blow you?

  28. 1149

    After five years of lies and corruption, a great economy, peace and prosperity
    Commentby JDB— 5/23/06@ 9:27 pm

    I would take the economy of today over the economy of the 90’s anyday. Iam making more money now than I ever did.

  29. 1150

    If you are doing bad in today economy you are a dumbass. You dont deserve money or a job.

  30. 1151

    Goldy:

    Now that Iran is test firing the Shahab (wind) 3 missile and it can reach Israel, why are you not dealing with that? Don’t you care about your ancestral homeland? Oh, because the donk in Congress will talk the Iranians to death at the “peace” table if you guys win the House or Hilary wins the presidency? Yeah right… they only understand an ass-kicking! Where are the donk mouths?

    Where is John Friggin Kerry on this?
    Where is Hilary Rotten Clinton on this?
    Where is Nancy Facelift Pelosi on this?
    Where is Harry Scary Reid on this?
    Where is Jerry Damn I’m Fat Nadler on this?
    Where is Howard Yearrrgh Dean on this?
    Where is Joseph Plagiarizer Biden on this?
    Where is Steny I’m Not Sure Hoyer on this?
    Where is Dick Turbin Durbin on this?
    Where is Rahm Never Saw It Emanuel on this?

  31. 1152

    GBS @16 YOU FUCKIN LITTLE PISS ANT.YOU COULD NOT EVEN MAKE IT IN THE NAVY.YOUR A LOSER,AND A LIAR TO BOOT.HAVING TROUBLE FINDIND YOUR DD214 I PROBLEY WOULD TO IF THEY BOOTED MY ASS OUT.ALL YOU HAVE IN LIFE IS THIS BLOG AND YOUR JOB AT MCDONALDS.IN OTHER WORDS YOUR A LOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSER.

  32. 1153

    @21 HES NOT A BORE. BUT A SMALL PISS ANT WHO COULD NOT HACK IT IN THE NAVY.THUS A LOSSSSSSSSSSSSSER

  35. 1156

    Puddybud, what do you think the Bush misadministration will do about your fears concerning Iran?

    Really, what do you think they will do?

  37. 1158

    Donna @ 24

    What do you know about security clearances? Have you ever works personnel reliability are held an intelligence billet?

    The PERSON gets the clearance. So the investigator(s) doesn’t meet the requirements for a Clearance? GET SOMEONE WHO CAN.

    The process has been in place for a long time.

    Things like recent recreational drug use, excessive debt and various law violations are common reasons for a clearance to be denied. Sometimes a clearance is denied because the spouse of the candidate is in a position to be compromised.

  38. 1159

    Sillygay @ 21:

    Please correct me if I’m wrong, but, after reading every post on this thread I failed to see your insightful post on any topic.

    Since you accused me of not having any content to my posts let’s begin a debate.

    Topic/challenge to you:
    Explain in detail with facts and sources the single greatest achievement of the Bush administration and why.

    OK, the intellectual ball is in your court. Begin.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Please join us for cheers, jeers and beers as we discuss this week’s political happenings.

I’ve been on a deadline all day, so I’m real thirsty.

And if you happen to be a liberal drinker on the other side of the mountains, the Tri-Cities chapter of DL also meets Tuesday nights, 7 PM, Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd., in Richland. Go ask Jimmy for more details.

Comments

  2. 1161

    Here is the latest update , state by state, of all the Republican “culture of corruption” pols indicted, under investigation, or convicted and currently serving time: http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/gopscorecard.php

    Commentby headless lucy— 5/16/06@ 3:59 pm

    Looks fairly innocuous to me. Less than 10% of the people on the list you linked have been indicted or convicted of anything. Maybe about 20 to 30 people nationwide (at all levels of state, local and federal governments) who have been charged with anything. Some of these people aren’t even government officials or political appointees.

    I would imagine that the number of indicted or convicted Democrats during the Clinton Administration would be at least as much, if not far higher.

  3. 1162

    McGavick within 5 points of Cantwell. Put a fork in her. She’s done.

    Time to turn up the gain on the hate machine goldy. Hey, maybe you can arrange a big oil hate rally and she can give the gouging speech for the thousandth fucking time. She can tell all you moonbats how grouchoandharpo should run the place.

  4. 1163

    I was thinking of stopping by this week. Will Ted The Swimmer be there? He’d never pass up free drinks.

    Hey Rufus Fitzgerald Kennedy… are you going? Or Puddybud Kennedy?

    Will you moonbats be riding the bus? Too bad to let Ron’s buses drive around empty.

  5. 1164

    Watching el presidente last night, blah blah yadda yadda blah blah, I felt like a character on Mystery Science Theater 2000, forced to watch a B horror movie, twitching at his inanity, nearly nauseated, heckling. So I turned off the volume and noticed Junior has large, pointy ears. Hmm. Then I noticed the backdrop flags. Anybody else notice their careful placement? Weird. The US flag on the left had its stripes pointing directly at tahe schmuck. The smaller flag on the right also had its stripes pointing right at him, like he was comic book Captain Freedom or something. There were some other props, photos, the family look. It’s all image with that clown, no substance. He’ll screw-up immigration reform like everything else.

  6. 1165

    Boy , I wonder if anyone saw the PI and their taking our girl Cantwell to task . I’m surprised Goldy never saw it .

  7. 1166

    Admittedly the GOP didn’t invent nor do they have a monopoly on corruption, deception and subterfuge. They have however significantly advanced the state of the art.

  9. 1168

    More GOP scandals…

    * Republican staffers on the Senate Judiciary Committee were investigated for stealing thousands of confidential memos from Dem computers, a matter that has now been referred to the Justice Department for a possible criminal probe.

  10. 1169

    R. Pope sez:

    “I would imagine that the number of indicted or convicted Democrats during the Clinton Administration would be at least as much, if not far higher.”

    You “would imagine”? You’re usually Johnny Fact Check, Richard. Why would would you resort to IMAGINING? Could it perhaps have anything to do with the reality that FACTS prove contrary to your flaccid assertion?

  11. 1170

    Why do folks expect that even the more rational wingers like Richard Pope will respond to reasoned argument — and facts? That’s not their paradigm. Wingers know they can’t win on points, so instead they traffic in mass psychosis.

    Wingers don’t care how the “commies” respond, because they are only props. The goal is to get a given meme embedded in popular discourse (e.g., Clinton more corrupt than Bush), and to do that repetition is all that matters. The outrageousness of the meme is immaterial. Indeed, the more outrageous, the more the public debate is likely to shift to the right.

    A case in point is MTR’s advocacy of genocide against all Muslims. No mainstream Republican operative would dare state that out loud — yet. But the longer “freelance” wingers like MTR repeat that meme, the more legitimacy it is likely to gain.

    This is why the wingers actually like it when folks argue with them, because it elevates their talking points. And this is why it is pure folly to think that you can “win” an argument with a winger.

    I don’t mean to be overly negative here. It strikes me as a good sign that the wingers have been increasingly aggressive of late. That means they are running scared.

  12. 1171

    I agree Green Thumb. You look at the shit they spout and you hope this is all the GOP has to work with because if so, we win and we win big. I mean come on. Janet S arguing that Darcy should stay home because she has kids. Or MTR’s insane ravings. If that were the real voice of the GOP we’d win every election. I rarely try to engage them in argument. Poke fun at them? Call them names? Insult them? Sure. That’s why they’re here. But an actual discussion is simply not possible with any human being who can say they support the Bush regime after all the lies, corruption and deceit. Anyone who still supports Bush under these circumstances is completely drunk on the Kool Aid and won’t be coming back to this earth any time soon.

  13. 1172

    I wonder if the Seattle Chapter of the Liberal Losers Lonely Hearts Club will be discussing Stefan… again.

    by Goldy, 05/16/2006, 10:52 AM
    “With our good friend Stefan… ”

    by Goldy, 05/15/2006, 9:34 PM
    “Our sage friend Stefan …”

    And that’s just the last 24 hours… and only by goldstein …

    Has anyone ever taken a count of how many times the loonies bring him up?

    Their magnificent obsession is bordering on creepy.

  14. 1173

    1,2,9,11 & 12

    Did someone say corruption? Oh Ok…..

    CLINTON MACHINE CRIMES
    FOR WHICH CONVICTIONS
    HAVE BEEN OBTAINED

    Drug trafficking (3), racketeering, extortion, bribery (4), tax evasion, kickbacks, embezzlement (2), fraud (12), conspiracy (5), fraudulent loans, illegal gifts (1), illegal campaign contributions (5), money laundering (6), perjury, obstruction of justice.

  15. 1174

    Ohhh culture of corruption. YOu mean a culture like this…

    OTHER MATTERS INVESTIGATED BY SPECIAL PROSECUTORS
    AND CONGRESS, OR REPORTED IN THE MEDIA

    Bank and mail fraud, violations of campaign finance laws, illegal foreign campaign funding, improper exports of sensitive technology, physical violence and threats of violence, solicitation of perjury, intimidation of witnesses, bribery of witnesses, attempted intimidation of prosecutors, perjury before congressional committees, lying in statements to federal investigators and regulatory officials, flight of witnesses, obstruction of justice, bribery of cabinet members, real estate fraud, tax fraud, drug trafficking, failure to investigate drug trafficking, bribery of state officials, use of state police for personal purposes, exchange of promotions or benefits for sexual favors, using state police to provide false court testimony, laundering of drug money through a state agency, false reports by medical examiners and others investigating suspicious deaths, the firing of the RTC and FBI director when these agencies were investigating Clinton and his associates, failure to conduct autopsies in suspicious deaths, providing jobs in return for silence by witnesses, drug abuse, improper acquisition and use of 900 FBI files, improper futures trading, murder, sexual abuse of employees, false testimony before a federal judge, shredding of documents, withholding and concealment of subpoenaed documents, fabricated charges against (and improper firing of) White House employees, inviting drug traffickers, foreign agents and participants in organized crime to the White House.

    Is that the culture you are talking about?

  17. 1176

    And you have no knowledge of basic concepts:

    Government exists to make private wealth possible.
    Commentby Belltowner— 3/12/06@ 4:15 pm

    I like Castro’s system better. He confiscates the employer’s property, shoots the employer, and the workers get quality health care for free. We need something like that in America.
    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/19/06@ 3:42 pm

    Don’t talk to me about “core beliefs…”
    Commentby headless lucy— 3/25/06@ 7:07 pm

    …the oil industry is a zero sum game ( like checkers )
    Commentby headless lucy— 4/9/06@ 2:56 pm

    “…higher PRODUCTIVITY means fewer jobs…”
    Commentby Donnageddon— 4/9/06@ 4:06 pm

    “Most wealthy people inherited their wealth and haven’t worked a day in their lives…”
    Commentby headless lucy— 4/13/06@ 5:14 pm

    ..Corporate profits are driven by the cheap labor binge. Corporate executives, board members and their lackeys have rewarded themselves hugely.
    Commentby For the Clueless— 4/15/06@ 12:12 pm

    America has been reduced to an oil for paper trade.
    Commentby For the Clueless— 4/15/06@ 1:05 pm

    …The only way to battle the oil-paper-land casino is to opt out of it through micro-capitalism, localized production and consumption…
    Commentby For the Clueless— 4/15/06@ 4:21 pm

    The rich people who get all these tax breaks lend us that money back in the form of government bonds that they buy and that we have to repay them at interest.
    This is not investing in the economy. It’s a double jeopardy rip-off!
    Commentby harry poon— 4/18/06@ 8:21 pm

    …I said the revenue was the result of deficit SPENDING DO YOU SEE THE WORD “SPENDING” SPENDING SPENDING SPENDING…
    Commentby dlaw— 4/18/06@ 10:17 pm

    “This most recent round of tax cuts will continue to explode the deficit by giving away over $900 Billion to the super-rich over the next ten years. [4/5/06 NYTimes]
    Commentby Harry Tuttle aka Voter Advocate— 4/24/06@ 5:17 pm

    How about redistributing the wealth so the top 1% don’t own 60% of all the property in theU.S.?
    Commentby harry poon— 4/24/06@ 5:54 pm

    If 1% of the population of the US gets the same amount of dollars yearly as the bottom 50%, why is it unfair to tax them at a higher rate?
    Commentby harry poon— 4/24/06@ 7:51 pm

    People who want to drill into our strategic oil reserves so Exxon/Mobil can have some short term profit are flat out TRAITORS!!!
    Commentby harry poon— 4/27/06@ 8:25 pm

  18. 1177

    And since you most of you were raised by single mothers, you have no fucking idea how to act. You can’t lead. You don’t see long term consequences. You don’t understand how the world really works.

    Rakeface and Dondon put it best:

    …it’s just that the reality is vaginas make us men .
    Comment by GBS— 12/29/05 @ 5:44 pm

    …vaginas do indeed make us men.
    Comment by Donnageddon— 12/29/05 @ 5:55 pm

  19. 1178

    Here we go again. RUFAS SUCKS DICK is posting the same old tired lame shit he’s posted 100 times – too bad no one cares about your lies RUFAS SUCKS DICK but it’s comforting to know you support the traitors in the White House.

  20. 1179

    More GOP scandal…

    * The Federal Election Commission investigated the National Republican Congressional Committee and determined that the GOP illegally transferred donations to outside independent groups for assistance in the 2000 campaign. The NRCC was fined $280,000. (Updated 4/9/04)

  21. 1180

    Another GOP scandal…

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....5028.shtml

    * The Texas GOP’s decision to seek assistance from the FAA to track down Democratic lawmakers fleeing the state to deny a legislative quorum was the subject of two formal inquiries — one from the U.S. Department of Transportation, the other from the Department of Homeland Security.

  22. 1181

    More GOP scandal…

    * John Korsmo, Bush’s choice to chair the Federal Housing Finance Board, is the target of an ongoing Justice Department criminal probe related to his political fundraising activities and their subsequent cover-up. The scandal cost Korsmo his career; he was forced to resign from his position

  23. 1182

    Notice I haven’t had to repeat the same shit over and over like the inbred wingers? They make up shit about a guy who’s out of office six years and act like that’s a scandal and can’t answer the 50 I have posted dealing with the current GOP crooks in the Bush regime. How lame can they get? Never mind. I don’t want to know.

  24. 1183

    More GOP scandal…

    * California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was investigated for violating state campaign finance laws, a charge for which he was later found guilty by a state judge. The state has a $100,000 cap on candidate loans; Schwarzenegger loaned himself over $4 million in the closing days of his campaign.

  25. 1184

    Death rattle is no longer strong enough. We need to come up with a new adjective to show just how bad the twisted traitors on the right are doing with the public. Confidence in GOP at an all time low!

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12825539/

    Let’s see you righties spin this. My guess is you’ll quickly change the subject. HE HE!

  26. 1185

    I have some good news for you moonbats. The world is NOT going to run out of oil any time soon. According to the CIA World Factbook, proved reserves of oil are currently 1.349 trillion barrels. Global consumption is 80 million barrels per day.

    Knowing that most of you attended public school, let me explain some basic math. All those zeros can be confusing if you’re a moonbat fucking idiot like DonDon or Rakeface. 1.349 trillion can be expressed as 1.349 times ten to the 12th power. 80.1 million can be expressed as 80.1 times ten to the 6th power.

    With all that as a helpful math lesson, I’ll leave it to you moonbats to calculate how many years of oil we have left based on proved reserves and current consumption.

    Please post your answers. Tell me to just two “significant digits how many years our oil will last. I’ll grade your answers.

    This oughta be entertaining… geez… I crack myself up sometimes…

  27. 1186

    By the way, Senator Cantwell, if you read my post at 26, you’re certainly welcome to take a crack at it. As soon as I have your wild ass guess, I’ll be more than happy to grade it. In fact, you’ll move to the head of the line.

    Good luck…

  28. 1187

    Another GOP scandal…

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....5028.shtml

    * The Texas GOP’s decision to seek assistance from the FAA to track down Democratic lawmakers fleeing the state to deny a legislative quorum was the subject of two formal inquiries — one from the U.S. Department of Transportation, the other from the Department of Homeland Security.

    Commentby LeftTurn— 5/16/06@ 9:04 pm

    A review a scandal? What charges were they looking into Left Turn?

    Did they ever review the reason why dems abandoned their seats right before a crucial vote on rezoning? Hmmmmm I wonder?

  29. 1188

    @18, yeah sure, Vagina Lips. You who called for the genocide of muslims and asserted a correlation of the possession of a vagina and “stoopidity”, you can talk?

    You are laughably insane.

  30. 1189

    Senator Cantwell… going back to 27… don’t ask Senator Dimbulb for help. We know she can’t do advanced math like this? Remember when she wanted to hire 100,000 teachers and proposed one billion dollars in funding? She was off by an “order of magnitude” (look it up).

    Looking forward to your answer…

  31. 1190

    Ass – Show us how “smart” you are. Take my test at 26. Or are you a stoopid fucking woman too?

  32. 1191

    More GOP scandals and corrupt crony’s…

    Katharine Armstrong, Anne Armstrong, covering up Dick’s drunken hunting accident (Katharine also seems to be present every time George and Tony get together to plan illegal wars)

  33. 1192

    More GOP scandals…Neil Bush, received donations earmarked from his mommy’s Katrina donation
    (Uncle) Jonathan Bush, executive of the former Riggs Bank, money launderer for (among others) Augusto Pinochet and the Saudis
    Joseph Canizaro, largely responsible for the Katrina profitable non-recovery

  34. 1193

    On immigration… I want to clarify something that you moonbats drink…

    We are NOT a “nation of immigrants”. I was born here. My family has been here for 8 generations going back to “Tony The Redneck”. I am Murkan. My family quickly assimilated to the culture here and we became Murkans instantly.

    Interesting story about Tony The Redneck…. when he left the home country he didn’ta speak the English. So one of his buddies put a sign around his neck that said “To New York” (and abbreviated New York) and took him to the docks. When he got to Ellis Island, the immigration guy thought that was his name, so he put “Tony” on his entry papers.

    And a great line of Rednecks began…

  35. 1194

    Mark’s trying to make himself look smart, but it boils down to 134,900 divided by 8, or 46 years and a month…the same length of time it took Mark to first get laid.

    However, the actual estimate of the world’s oil reserves from credible (ie, not corrupt) sources is 800,000,000 barrels, which puts the dry up date about 27 years.

    Mind you, this doesn’t allow for growth. Add 5% per year in there for that, and all of a sudden the day is damn near twice as near.

    Ah, typical selfish bullshit from the likes of Mark. He doesn’t give a single shit about his own kids–hell, he’d sell ’em to puddybud as “stinky finger friends” if he thought there was a dollar in it. Just like his brokeback-fantasy-object GWB, he simply puts the problem on the backs of the next generation. I mean, who cares if he’s got his?

  36. 1195

    CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico-Mexico said Tuesday that it would file lawsuits in U.S. courts if National Guard troops on the border become directly involved in detaining migrants. Mexican border officials also said they worried that sending troops to heavily trafficked regions would push illegal migrants into more perilous areas of the U.S.-Mexican border to avoid detection. […………..Silverstein, Lowenstein, Loeb, and Goldystein standing by and ready to sue!!!!!!]

  38. 1197

    How to get rid of 22 million illegal aliens: Kill a few and the word will get out. If their military tries to intervene like it did a bit ago, kill a few more.
    At 100,000 per year, it will take one hundred years to deport all the illegals already here.
    But at least it’s a start.
    C17s and C141s to Mexico City daily. No need to build detention facilities. If they won’t let us land, jettison the cargo at 3000 feet.
    They won’t come back.

  39. 1198

    Goldystein, Do you consider yourself and American, or do you have dual allegence? If all the girls were drafted first, and if you every HAD to serve in a military, would you be in an American uniform?

  40. 1199

    More GOP scandals.

    Here are four upstanding republicans that the righties tell their kids they should look up to…

    All have been CONVICTED of crimes.

    James Tobin, guilty of conspiracy for jamming the Democrats phones in NH in 2002
    William Weld, for fraud related to Decker College
    Brent Wilkes, guilty of bribing Randy Cunningham, possibly with hookers
    Charles Wyly, for tax evasion (also funded the anti-McCain black baby ads and the Swift Boat campaign)

  41. 1200

    Maryland U.S. Senate candidate Kweisi Mfume said yesterday that Democrats risk losing the senatorial election because ”old-line party bosses” are undermining his campaign and alienating black voters. /break/ ”I can say that there will be people who will feel disaffected [if I am not the nominee],” Mr. Mfume told editors and reporters at The Washington Times. [………….In other words, “I gottsa win da election, or we be burnin down Baltimore!!!!”

  42. 1201

    Oh you mean party corruption like this

    Voter fraud charges probed
    GOP candidate claims 2 city Democrat forged up to 30 absentee ballots in primary

    By DENNIS YUSKO, Staff writer
    Click byline for more stories by writer.
    First published: Thursday, October 20, 2005

    MECHANICVILLE — State Police confirmed they are investigating voter fraud allegations leveled against two city Democrats.
    The investigation stems from allegations raised by Republican mayoral candidate Jeff Brown, who alleged Joseph Connors, the city Democratic Committee chairman, and his brother William Connors, economic development director, engaged in voter fraud before primary day in September.

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    Brown made the accusations during a news conference on Wednesday, saying the claims are based on evidence gathered by a private investigator he hired. Neither Saratoga County District Attorney James Murphy III nor State Police would elaborate.

    William Connors responded to the charges, through a message left on a reporter’s voice mail: “It’s typical, dirty politics from the GOP. I’m not concerned on this end.”

    His attorney, Kevin Luibrand of Albany, said 8 to 10 city residents have provided statements saying the private investigator hired by Brown threatened them in an abusive manner while interviewing them on primary day, Sept. 17.

    Brown called on the Connors brothers to step down from their political posts while they are being investigated. Joseph Connors is also employed by the city as a part-time animal control officer.

    Brown claims the brothers tried to obtain the Conservative Party line nomination before primary day by forging absentee ballot applications for up to 30 city residents, picking up the ballots and turning some of them in.

    Though Brown won the Conservative primary 32-27 over Democratic mayoral candidate Anthony Sylvester, he said the Connors brothers filled in several ballot applications for residents, falsely claiming they would be out of town.

    He said he hired the private investigator, who gathered evidence on the alleged forgeries, and forwarded it to Murphy.

    “This political machine in Mechanicville led by the Connors brothers is out of control and is infringing on people’s rights,” said Brown, a 25-year-old former member of the Mechanicville Board of Education.

    State Police confirmed that Investigator Patricia Donovan of the Clifton Park barracks is investigating a “voter fraud” case in Mechanicville at Murphy’s request.

    “We are conducting the investigation, and it’s currently an active investigation. At this time, we have no comment,” said Lt. Scott Coburn of the State Police Bureau of Criminal Investigations.

    The Mechanicville Police Department received no complaints from residents about a private investigator and recused itself to ensure an independent probe, Mechanicville Police Chief Joseph Waldron said.

    The Conservative Party had endorsed Brown, meaning his name was listed on absentee ballots. Democrats challenged the endorsement, and voters had to write in Sylvester’s name to vote for him.

    Brown said he became suspicious when more than 30 absentee ballots were sent in for the Conservative primary, many of which were allegedly picked up by Joseph Connors or William Connors and contained the same handwriting at the top.

    Many voters whose absentee ballots were submitted have stated they never intended to leave the city on primary day, Brown said. The applications contained valid signatures because voters signed blank pieces of paper, Brown alleged.

    His charges come as Republicans mount challenges for four of the five seats on the City Council, which is controlled exclusively by Democrats. Brown asked the state Board of Elections to monitor voting in the city during the general election next month and urged city Democrats to disassociate themselves from the Connors brothers.

    Democrats would not comment.

  43. 1202

    and like this…

    Dem Ethics?
    South Dakota Dems don’t acknowledge the importance of their voter-fraud problem.

    By Jon K. Lauck.

    SIOUX FALLS, S.D — Election tactics can brand a pol for life. Democrats perpetuated a half century of Nixon-hating following his defeat of Helen Gahagan Douglas, the “Pink Lady,” in the bruising 1952 California Senate race. And thanks to two decades of research by Robert Caro, LBJ will forever be remembered for stealing the 1948 Senate race in Texas. When LBJ’s lawyer (and fixer) Ed Clark needed extra votes, Caro reports, he said it “meant going into the Mexican country: the Rio Grand River, the border…” Sen. Tim Johnson’s (D., S.D.) campaign attempted a similar strategy on Indian reservations. And he, too, will be remembered for his bounty-hunting even if he wins.

    In May, the head of the national Democratic party told the Sioux Falls Argus Leader, “We’re actively going after the Native American community,” and Johnson’s manager noted that the campaign was working hand-in-hand with the national group. In March, Johnson had told the Lakota Journal that he hoped to open a campaign office on each of South Dakota’s nine reservations. By July, he had made good on his promise.

    After a voting-fraud scandal broke, however, the Johnson campaign denied that it had any offices on the reservations. According to the Associated Press, “[w]hen a reporter called the Lower Brule Reservation, a woman said she was a field officer for Johnson’s campaign and referred the reporter to Johnson’s office. [Johnson Campaign Manager Steve] Hildebrand said the woman was mistaken and that she works for the Democratic Party.” Two days later, however, Sen. Johnson himself told the Washington Times, “We do have campaign offices in Indian Country.” Soon afterward he backpedaled, telling Newsweek’s Howard Fineman, “That’s the state party’s business, not my campaign’s.”

    At the heart of the problem is the Democrats’ decision to adopt the unorthodox practice of paying $3-per-head bounties for voter-registration cards and absentee-ballot requests, making fraud practically inevitable. The more registration cards and absentee-ballot requests one fills out, the greater the size of one’s check from the South Dakota Democratic party — and, naturally, the greater dimensions of the voter-fraud problem election officials must now untangle.

    The Pennington County sheriff noted that one individual had probably gathered his bounties by copying names from the phonebook or from newspaper obituaries. At least six dead people were registered to vote. Further compounding the odds of fraud, the Democrats selected a man on work-release from jail to be the bounty-hunter. No one should now be surprised that such circumstances led to charges of forgery. Indeed, the only reason more counts weren’t filed was that authorities decided to prosecute only the “worst five.”

    On Thursday, two women in Fall River County discovered that someone had forged Republican registration cards and reregistered them in counties at the other end of the state as Democrats — a move which could have deprived the people initially registered of their right to vote. Fortunately, one of the women worked for the state’s attorney, who was alert to the fraud problem.

    Or take the now-infamous Becky Red Earth Villeda Maka Duta (BREVMD, for short). BREVMD collected more than $13,000 in bounties before being terminated for the voting irregularities that had piled up on her watch. Again, the Democrats compounded the odds of fraud by choosing this bounty hunter, who had previously been accused of submitting an election petition that contained a forgery. According to the attorney general, at least 15 forged absentee-ballot requests can be traced to BREVMD and she could be linked to as many as 1,750 questionable absentee-ballot applications. She herself claims that the charges are part of a conspiracy, organized by Dan Quayle’s nephew, to suppress Indian voting. The same conspiracy story (absent the Dan Quayle twist) has since become the Democrats’ mantra.

    On October 17, the Mitchell Daily Republic reported that the Buffalo County auditor had turned suspicious registration cards over to the sheriff. The auditor for Lyman County also noted that registration confirmation cards had been returned — showing that their intended recipients did not exist. In Pennington County, 230 voter-registration cards are being analyzed for fraud; in Shannon County, one in ten of the 1,000 new voter registrations are being scrutinized; and at least 50 voter registrations are under scrutiny in Roberts County. And the Rapid City Journal recently reported that Meade County was investigating 5 questionable Democratic voter registrations and Hughes County was investigating 4. In a state known for close races — Tom Daschle won his first election by 139 votes — every suspicious registration demands investigation.

    Reports from Dewey and Ziebach Counties have caused particular concern. Perhaps most famously, one woman applied for absentee ballots in both counties — twenty days after she had been killed in a car wreck. It remains unclear who signed and dated the fraudulent ballot requests, but the problem applications arrived in large envelopes containing other applications from the South Dakota Democratic party in Sioux Falls. Only time can tell how many of the registrations and absentee-ballot requests in those envelopes turn out to be problematic. But when the Democratic party sends Dewey County 350 applications for absentee ballots — amounting to 10 percent of registered voters in the county — and indicates that all 350 applicants will be out of the county on Election Day, something seems fishy. A frustrated Dewey County told the Argus Leader: “There’s no accountability.”

    The Democratic party insists that only a “single person and a handful of documents” are at issue. Given the widespread accounts of fraud, however, this explanation falls flat: The FBI and the attorney general do not generally launch a large-scale investigation for one person and a couple of documents. And yet the Democrats persist. The same day that the Rapid City Journal reported additional fraud investigations underway in Meade and Hughes Counties, the Democrats were declaring that there were “absolutely no credible accounts of widespread voter-registration or absentee-ballot fraud.” The Democrats are refusing to let a state and federal investigation into voter fraud in 25 counties, involving as many as 1,750 registrations, to interfere with their spin. And, predictably, they are blaming Republicans for suppressing minority voting — even as they also reject Republican calls for federal election monitors to ensure a fair and open election.

    Only when Democrats acknowledge the scale of the problem they created by paying voter bounties can the problem be properly addressed. And, win or lose, Sen. Johnson will likely never escape the taint of the bounty-hunting scandal.

  44. 1203

    or like this…

    St. Louis Democratic Comptroller Darlene Green

    A decision may be reached today on whether Nonaresa Montgomery committed perjury in her 2001 testimony regarding discredited voter listings that she admitted she turned into the elections office on the last elegible day. Closing arguments were scheduled for this morning:

    On tape, Montgomery admitted taking from 1,000 to 1,200 voter registrations to the St. Louis Board of Elections on Feb. 7, 2001, just before the mayoral primary. Workers there launched an investigation after noticing that among the new voters was longtime Alderman Albert “Red” Villa, who died in 1990.

    Montgomery told the grand jury that many of the fraudulent cards could have come from Operation Big Vote offices, based on the initials of volunteers and distinctive markings. She also matched initials to the names of more than a half-dozen workers.

    Six volunteers pleaded guilty in December of dozens of election law violations for filling out the cards with names of the dead and other bogus information. One still faces charges.

    Montgomery had testified to the grand jury that she could not definitively track the cards she turned in. “Well, I don’t have the ability to track the cards, I mean the registrations, once we give them to the Board of Elections,” she said in response to a question from a female grand juror.

    Prosecutors say that Montgomery perjured herself in that statement. They say she did have copies of the registrations but disposed of them after a Feb. 12, 2001, meeting – sparking a second charge of tampering with evidence.

    That meeting, held in the campaign headquarters of St. Louis Comptroller Darlene Green, was attended by Montgomery, Keena Carter, the assistant Democratic director of the election board, and Pearlie Evans, a longtime political activist who was Green’s campaign manager.

    Evans told jurors Tuesday that during the three-hour meeting there was a discussion about getting rid of the copies, but she could not remember who was involved. She was vehement that Green did not participate.

  45. 1204

    or like this….

    Kelvin Ellis, a top administrator at East St. Louis City Hall, was indicted yesterday for plotting to kill a witness in the year long East St. Louis, Illinois federal vote fraud investigation.

    …Federal officials made only measured statements at a news conference, and hinted there is more to come from a yearlong investigation. This is “the beginning of a concerted and focused effort to root out public corruption,” said Weysan Dun, special agent in charge of the FBI’s Springfield, Ill., field office, which has jurisdiction over the Metro East area.

    Ellis, 55, who once served a prison term after abusing a city post, is now the director of regulatory affairs, which puts him in charge of housing inspections. He also is a precinct committeeman with close ties to the community’s Democratic Party leaders.

    The indictments accuse Ellis of trying to have an unidentified witness killed. Court documents say he is a target of an ongoing vote fraud inquiry. He also is accused in a separate indictment of income tax evasion.

    The investigation became public last year when more than a dozen subpoenas were delivered to city Democratic Party leaders after the November election.

    According to one of Ellis’ indictments, the investigation began at least a month earlier. A female witness told agents on Oct. 5 that Ellis, “had committed election fraud and other potential criminal offenses.” Ellis learned the same day of the substance of what she had said, the indictment states.

    In the following days, Ellis spoke repeatedly with an unidentified person, first discussing plans to discredit the witness, perhaps through a bogus drug sting, court documents say. The indictment includes excerpts of what appear to be recordings of these conversations between Ellis and the other person.

    “I want her credibility destroyed,” Ellis is reported to have said. She is “trying to destroy us. No telling what she’s saying.”

    As the weeks passed, the conversations turned more sinister, with Ellis saying on Nov. 19, “I want her … taken out, however we have to do it.”

    Ellis was convicted in 1990 of extortion. He had been an executive assistant to Mayor Carl E. Officer, officials said, when Ellis stopped work on a nursing home project until its builder steered work to a company Ellis controlled. He pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 21 months.

    The fraud investigations were first reported in the Post Dispatch in early January…

    The investigation is limited to 13 absentee votes that were cast from a boardinghouse in East St. Louis. The federal government has declined to talk about its case, but a search warrant issued during an FBI raid at East St. Louis City Hall on Nov. 23 indicates that the reach is much greater. Oliver Hamilton, a Democratic precinct committeeman, owns the boardinghouse, at 1232 Cleveland Avenue, targeted by the investigation.

  46. 1205

    or like this….

    Big Vote was part of a national campaign — promoted by Democrats — to register more black voters and get them to vote in the November elections.

    Montgomery is accused of hiring about 30 workers to do fraudulent voter-registration canvassing.

    They were supposed to have canvassed black neighborhoods and recorded names of potential voters to be contacted later to vote in the Nov. 7 election. And they were paid by the number of cards they filled out.

    Instead of knocking on doors, however, they sat down at a fast-food restaurant and wrote out names and information from an outdated voter list.

    The charges stem from about 1,500 fraudulent voter registration cards that were turned in to the St. Louis Board of Elections on Feb. 7, 2001, the deadline for registering for the mayoral primary.

    Board employees realized that there was a serious problem with some of the cards when they spotted the name of longtime alderman Albert “Red” Villa, who died in 1990.

    Apparently Montgomery is not the one who filled out the fake voter registration cards (six Operation Big Vote workers pleaded guilty in December to dozens of election law violations and one still faces charges) but Montgomery failed to tell a local grand jury investigating the case about a meeting , and failed to mention when asked that she had copies of some or all of the voter registrations.

    The meeting referred to in the case was in February 2001 where discussion about destroying the fake voter cards to stymie police investigators…

    The meeting was at the campaign office of Comptroller Darlene Green.

    The probable cause statement says Green attended, and “the idea of burning copies of the registration cards was discussed”.

    Also attending: political consultant Pearlie Evans and St. Louis election board official Keena Carter. Carter (Assistant Democratic Election Director ) is now cooperating with investigators.

    Darlene Green testified late Wednesday…

    Carter, Montgomery and a Democratic Representative Bill Clay operative, Pearlier Evans, all met with Green to discuss the problem of the cards. Green confirmed for the jury today that “it was discussed, what should we do with them”.

    Several times, prosecutors had to jog Green’s memory by showing her pages of her testimony before a grand jury. She insisted she had little memory of the meeting, saying, “There’s no way I could remember what was said.”

    Under questioning by Montgomery’s defense lawyer, Green’s memory was usually much better, and she was quite cooperative with Herman Jimerson.

    After the meeting at Green’s office, the voter cards disappeared, and have never been found.

    Montgomery has waived the sentencing hearing and received two years probation.

    Judge David Mason added conditions that included community service work in which she would help young people understand how to properly register to vote.

    **Here is a video of the court proceedings from the trial.**

    Note: The defendent’s lawyer says the accusations are politically motivated yet all of those involved were either Democrat office holders, consultants or operatives. Democrats have dominated the politics in St. Louis City for years. Republicans have not held the mayor’s office since Aloys P. Kaufman held the office from 1943- 1949.

  47. 1206

    or like this….

    Dannita Youngblood, 30, testified during the trial of five Democratic politicians in East St. Louis that one of the defendants, her former East St. Louis city hall boss, Kelvin Ellis (who operated a prostitution ring from City Hall), told Kern during the October call that the price to pay a voter would have to be increased. In October, Kern (the former Belleville Mayor) was the Democratic candidate for the chairman’s job.

    Under questioning by Assistant U.S. Attorney Mike Carr, Youngblood was asked whether she was certain that Ellis talked to Kern about buying votes.

    “Yes sir, he (Ellis) stated that,” answered Youngblood, who said she was then considered to be a member of Ellis’ political “A-team” and was not suspected of being a spy.

    “He said he might have to start them off at $10,” because of Kern’s reputation in a nearly all black city and Democratic stronghold crucial to his hopes of getting elected County Board chairman, Youngblood testified Kern was told.

    She stated that Kern, who is white, later met at his political headquarters in Belleville with herself and five other black East St. Louis politicians, including Ellis and Yvette Johnson, both on trial for vote fraud.

    Youngblood testified, “He (Kern) was considered to be a racist within the city of East St. Louis.”

    The Democrat A-Team made a “Vote Buying Spreadsheet” (in Excel!)to display at meetings with “racists”:

    Kern was given a copy of results for a previous election for East St. Louis that outlined how many votes needed to be bought, Youngblood stated. She said she made the spreadsheet at Ellis’ direction and that Ellis first showed it to Charles Powell, the East St. Louis Democratic Committee chairman. Powell is also a defendant in the same trial but was not at the meeting with Kern.

    “I was told to make copies and bring it to our meeting with Mr. Kern,” Youngblood testified about the document.

    When an image of the spreadsheet was displayed for jurors on an overhead screen, Carr pointed out handwriting in the margin that Youngblood testified was hers. She said it showed that the amount of money being sought for a particular precinct was $1,320, or $5 multiplied by the 264 voters who voted for the Democratic precinct committeeman in the 2000 election. There was no explanation why it was $5 per vote and not $10. Other precincts had similar computations.

    According to county election documents, Kern gave cash, made in-kind contributions or loaned $177,370 to the county Democratic Central Committee from Oct. 17 to Nov. 1, about half of what the entire committee had on hand just before the election.

    Youngblood said that during the meeting, both she and McIntosh wore concealed recording devices installed by the FBI.

    But Carr, the prosecutor, stopped short of eliciting testimony about what was said at the meeting with Kern and Sprague. It is not known whether there are tapes of the session, although jurors spent most of the day listening to excerpts from 19 secret tapes made by Youngblood and McIntosh of vote buying in East St. Louis allegedly involving one or more of the trial’s five defendants.

    More is coming out from the testimony today in the St. Louis Post Dispatch:

    Youngblood’s testimony was largely directed at Ellis and Johnson. Her claims included:

    * Seeing Ellis pay voters in the 2002 election, when Ellis was running for precinct committeeman. It happened in the bathroom and open areas of a home near the poll, she said.

    * Paying voters herself in the November election, which she insisted was at the behest of Ellis and Johnson.

    * Observing Ellis flash five fingers, then 10, when asked how much voters should be paid.

    * Having Ellis tell her to type a racist, anonymous letter urging Republican election judges to get blacks out of power; she said it was a ploy to keep them out of the city on Election Day.

    My apologies for not putting this story in proper context, Charles Powell is “Head of the Democratic Party in East St. Louis”.

    Defense Lawyer, Bruce Cook, is going to try to paint the FBI as the guilty party. The defense is also going to attack the federal witnesses.

    Cook, who developed a national reputation as a personal injury lawyer in Belleville, has been an area leader in the party himself.

    On Tuesday, Assistant U.S. Attorney Mike Carr said money flowed from the powerful St. Clair County Democrats based in Belleville to their counterparts in East St. Louis.

    “This is a conspiracy to get poor, undereducated, addicted, uninterested persons to vote,” he said in his opening remarks. “Those who could care less; those who look forward to election day as payday.

    “Literally on the eve of the election, the St. Clair County Democratic Committee sent thousands of dollars to each precinct committeeman to be spent,” Carr said. “Phony, bogus, outrageous budgets had been sent to cover up what was going on.”

    Cook was first up for the defense on Tuesday and given unlimited time by U.S. District Judge G. Patrick Murphy for his opening statement. It meandered from the Industrial Revolution to the Civil War and even touched on vote fraud allegations he said were leveled against George Washington before the American Revolution.

    As far as defendent Sheila Thomaas, her attorney had this to say:

    “There will be no direct evidence that my client paid anyone a thing,” he said. Thomas apparently made one secretly recorded statement that “we paid everybody,” but he said that was open to interpretation, especially when the entire conversation is heard.

    Also, Cal Skinner, over at The Illinois Leader has a great article and this to add:

    The beneficiaries of the alleged scheme were Democrat Presidential candidate John Kerry, Illinois State Supreme Court candidate Gordon Maag and Mark Kern, the Democratic candidate for Chairman of the St. Clair County Board of Commissioners…

    It used to be called “walking around money.” Now, according to the St. Clair County Democratic Central Committee’s reports to the State Board of Elections, it’s called, “election expenses.” $76,150 was reportedly paid to 51 individuals living in East St. Louis days before the 2004 election.

    Powell was a member of the East St. Louis city council until he was voted out of office in April. Two weeks before that election, he was indicted for vote fraud.

    In late March three other Democratic precinct committeemen–Lillie Nichols, Leroy Scott, Jr., and Terrance Stith–pled guilty to “knowingly and willfully” paying or offering “to pay voters for voting” during a federal elections.

    They agreed to render assistance that, if “found to be complete and thoroughly truthful” (underlining in the plea agreement), could lead to the U.S. Attorney’s recommendation of a reduction in their sentences. Democratic precinct worker Sandra Stith, Terrance’s wife, entered into a similar plea arrangement.

    Ellis is also charged with writing a “threatening and misleading” letter to Republican election judges “in order to intimidate” them “so they would not appear at their assigned polling place.”

    Cal also has a list of the names of 51 election officials and the amount they were paid for “election expenses” from the East St. Louis Democrat Party.

    The trial is expected to last 2 to 4 weeks.

  48. 1207

    East St. Louis: corrupt Democrat shit hole. aka Harare, Zimbabwe

  49. 1208

    CITY OF REDMOND

    Ballots Cast/Registered Voters: 6304 / 23983 26.29%

    Poll Precincts Counted/Total Poll Precincts: 60
    / 60 100.00%

    Proposition No. 1 Increase In Regular Property Tax Levy Rate

    YES 2416 38.34%

    NO 3886 61.66%

    This was a 53% Tax Increase proposal.
    The King County Journal highly recommended it’s passage or citizens will be dying in hoards!

  50. 1209

    SOURCES SAY Goldy stumbles ought of the Montlake Ale House shit-faced as usual. A cop sees Goldy stumbling around and asks if he needs any help. Goldy replies, “I can’t find my car!”. The cop asks Goldy where he last saw it. Goldy pulls out his key chain and slurs “The last time I saw my car was right on the enda this KEY”!
    The cop then notices Goldy has no pants or undies on.
    The cop yells at Goldy, “SIR, DO YOU REALIZE YOU ARE PUBLICLY EXPOSING YOURSELF?!!!”

    Goldy looks down and sez “SHIT, I LOST DARCY BURNER TOO!!!!!!!!!”

  51. 1210

    Goldy andThe Talking Clock
    While proudly showing off his new apartment to his gay chums tonight, Goldy led the way to his bedroom where there was a big brass gong.

    “What’s that big brass gong for?” one of his dates asked. “Why, that’s the talking clock” Goldy replied. “How does it work?” “Watch”, Goldy said, giving it an ear-shattering pound with a hammer.

    Suddenly, someone on the other side of the wall screamed, “For fuck sake, you wanker, it’s 2am in the fucking morning!!”

  53. 1212

    Hey Goldy

    Another blog improvement idea: limit comment lengths to 1000 characters or similar. That way when JCH or Rufus start pasting their talking points, the rest of us don’t have to swim through the shit.

    I bet JCH has a weedy little mustache.

  54. 1213

    BUSH ORDERS NATIONAL GUARD TO PROTECT APPROVAL RATING
    10,000 Troops to Prevent Supporters From Leaving Country
    In a nationally televised address last night, President George W. Bush announced that he would order 10,000 National Guard troops to protect his sagging approval rating.

    The use of the National Guard to safeguard the president’s political fortunes struck many Beltway observers as highly unorthodox, and Mr. Bush’s decision to do so seemed likely to draw fire from congressional Democrats.

    But with his approval rating hovering at 29%, the president said he had “no choice” but to use the National Guard to prevent that number from sinking any lower.

    Speaking from the White House with his now-familiar tone of steely resolve, Mr. Bush said that he would send 10,000 troops to the Mexican border to prevent any of his supporters from leaving the country.

    “Many of my supporters have amazing second homes south of the border,” Mr. Bush said. “By taking this action, I am sending the clear message that they are not to leave the country until the midterm elections are over.”

    The president stopped short of saying that any supporters caught leaving the country would be shot on sight, but he warned, “Their tax cuts will be history.”

    Even as Mr. Bush was tightening security at the Mexican border, he said that he had “no plans” to keep people from fleeing to Canada: “Everyone who wanted to move to Canada did so after I was reelected in 2004.”

    Elsewhere, surgeons who successfully separated conjoined twins over the weekend said they failed to separate Sen. John McCain’s lips from Jerry Falwell’s ass.

  55. 1214

    More GOP scandals…

    Republican Connecticut Gov. John Rowland is under a criminal investigation (and an impeachment investigation) after he lied about prominent state contractors and several government aides paying for
    Haley Barbour, for funding GOP Marketplace, the NH phone jamming firm

  56. 1215

    More GOP scandals…

    Republican Lanny Griffith indicted, for funding GOP Marketplace, the NH phone jamming firm, also involved in New Bridge Strategies, arranging business deals in Iraq.

  57. 1216

    More GOP scandals…

    Republican Wally O’Dell indicted, for allegations of fraud (former CEO of Diebold)

  58. 1217

    More GOP scandals…

    Republican Manuel Stamatakis indicted, for suspect insurance contracts negotiated for the Philadelphia port authority.

  59. 1218

    News Flash: MONKEYS are able to string together a simple “sentence”, according to research that offers the first evidence that animals might be capable of a key feature of language.
    British scientists have discovered that the putty-nosed monkey in Nigeria sometimes communicates by combining sounds into a sequence [ebonics] that has a different meaning from any of its component calls, an ability that was thought to be uniquely human. British scientists noted that the monkeys first sentence was “Mofo GBS is a homo”.

Drinking Liberally

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The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Please join us for cheers, jeers and beers as we discuss this week’s political happenings.

And if you happen to be a liberal drinker on the other side of the mountains, please note that the Tri-Cities chapter of DL, which also meets Tuesday nights, has moved to 7 PM, Atomic Ale, 1015 Lee Blvd., in Richland. Go ask Jimmy for more details.

Comments

  1. 1219

    When are you going to have a special BULL DYKE FORMAL night @ DL???
    I can see all Goldy’s many BULL DYKE fans lined up & all dressed in Brown Gowns…..kinda like a FLEET OF UPS TRUCKS!!!!!!!!!

  2. 1220

    I would enjoy coming and bringing 14 million illegal alien Mexicans with me for you Democrats to feed, educate, and provide social services. They will demand the best, or they will hire lawyers named Sulverstein, Lowenstein, Loeb, and Goodman and sue you. Any problems? Please bring plenty of money.

  3. 1221

    Gore didn’t lose to W in 2000.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 5/9/06@ 9:12 am [Er, RR, Every time!!! Time to GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]

  4. 1222

    You know what. I think I’ll take you guys up on that offer of conservatives not being brave enough to show up.
    Although, I do have to offer the caveat that I may have news duties that late (unlikely).
    Will see you folks there.

  5. 1223

    Reporterward @4,

    You are, of course welcome, and I hope you announce yourself and join the party. We had a few conservatives stop by a couple months ago, but for the most part they stuck to themselves at their own table.

    I hope you’re not disappointed when you discovers that none of us — at least on the surface — appear particularly evil.

  6. 1224

    Will you talk about the fact that Jeb Bush, as in republican brother to the pretender and thief GW Bush talked his bro into stopping all oil drilling off the coase of Florida because it would hurt Jeb’s chances of getting re-elected? But wait, I thought drilling was good. They want to drill for six months worth of oil in ANWR – by all accounts there’s 100 times more oil than that in Florida. What gives? Double standards and hypocrisy as usual.

  7. 1225

    Thanks again for the Tri-Cities DL plug Goldy. And BTW, conservatives are always welcome there too. Just a bunch of normal folks drinking beer.

    Also, for those of you interested, pay attention to Goldy’s blogad from Ecology on the Hanford cleanup. If you are concerned about Hanford, these are great sessions to gain a better understanding of the issues. For instance, we do not glow in the dark over here. LOL… Seriously, I have been confronted with ignorance from west siders who actually thought that.

  8. 1226

    Reporterward @ 4

    You are welcome to show up… just make sure you tip your server. The conservatives who showed up last time did about ten percent.

  9. 1227

    On the radio this morning, there was a news item about legislation being pushed in Congress and supported by the White House. Under the guise of “insurance reform”, it’s purpose is to rescind (through federal pre-emption) of state laws requiring health insurance companies to provide preventative benefits, such as mammograms, as part of their coverage for employees.

    Yet I cannot find any reference to this online, either on MSNBC, the Seattle Times, or the P.I.

    Anybody else here this, or was I just having a nightmare on the way to work?

  10. 1228

    Goldy sez:
    “I hope you’re not disappointed when you discovers that none of us – at least on the surface – appear particularly evil.
    Commentby Goldy— 5/9/06@ 1:39 pm”

    I’ve never thought any of you KLOWNS were evil. STUPID…YES!!!
    But EVIL….NO.

  11. 1229

    reporterward—
    Goldy and his FLOCK OF KLOWNS are easy to ID–
    1) Red rubber noses
    2) Orange yarn hair
    3) White pancake make-up
    4) Red lipstick
    5) Size 32 floppy shoes
    You’ll see a bunch of trikes parked out front with OOOOGA Horns.

    In case there are other real clowns there, Goldy and his manly men are the ones sipping cordials, pattin’ each other on the fanny REPEATEDLY and going to the bathroom in 2’s for 10 minutes at a time. Pretty hard to miss.

  12. 1230

    @ 11:

    The conservatives are easy to ID too:

    1) Handcuffed by law enforcement
    2) Blubbering, like a whiny Kinder Konservative not getting his way, in front of televison cameras. ie Dukester to Jim Bakker
    3) Mug shots with name & numbers. ie DeLay, Abramoff, Dukester,
    4) Using the pay phone to call their bail bondsman
    5) The prison bitches hustling blow jobs and “Tookie Williams” style sex for their prison Pimp Daddies
    6) Or, the ones watching Kiddie porn on like JCH and the Konservative Krime Klown aka Ms Chickenhawk aka Mr. Cynical.

  13. 1231

    addendum to 13:

    3) Add “Druggie Limbaugh” to that list of shame. Along with all the republican congersional aides.

  14. 1232

    Oooooops, I almost forgot.

    Guess what time is it?

    That’s ‘right’ it’s STORY TIME. Gather around and I’ll tell you the story of how easy it is to catch a conservative lying.

  15. 1233

    How to catch a Conservative in the act of lying:

    Note the date/time stamps.

    http://www.horsesass.org/index.php?p=1332

    108, Libertarian, I never attended flight school. Hence, I never “washed out”. All a figment of GBS’s vivid “imagination”. All my training was done in Newport, RI and Coronado, Ca, as well as the old Philadelphia Ship Yard. Then, three WESTPACs of 6 monthe each , one ten month IO cruise, and a tour in Coronado at the NAB. Four years at sea, and two ashore.

    Comment by Myron [JCH] Silverstein, ESQ— 2/24/06 @ 3:04 pm

    @ 123

    JCH: Are you saying GWB served in combat then? Just askin’
    Comment by windie — 1/24/06 @ 3:59 pm [No, but, Windie, have YOU ever “buckled up” in a Mach 2 F-106? Not for pussies. I washed out of Naval Air [bad GI] and served Surface Line [1110]. Flying [and training] in military jets are not for the Bill Clintons of the world.]
    Comment by JCH — 1/24/06 @ 4:37 pm

  16. 1234

    Yep, that’s all you have to do is remember what a conservative said in the past because sure as shit smells like JCH’s breath, they’ll lie in the future and then you can spring the truth trap on them, too.

  17. 1235

    Do so-called conservatives from this blog actually show up? If so, my guess they’re dressed in drag. I’d pay money to see some of these clowns in person and then I’d pay more money to take them out back and ask them to repeat some of the things they say on this blog.

  19. 1237

    As a Kennedy, I hate to turn down a free drink. But I must pass on tonight’s gathering because as a Producer, I have things which must be done. You Takers can enjoy yourselves. Have one for me…

  20. 1238

    Baaaaa haaaaa haaaaa haaaaa

    Just seeing your stupid fucking name makes me laugh out loud, MTR.

    Go on, **snicker** tell us again, **gasp** HOW YOUR COKE WHORE WIFE TOOK YOU FOR A HALF A MILLION!!!

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    Fuck, I never get tired of that one. Ah, man, what a dope.

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    I look forward to it.
    Just be aware that I am immune to garlic, silver bullets, fire and holy water. You’ll have to use less conventional methods of defeating me.

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    Rakeface is back ! ! ! ! Woo HOoooooo

    Hey Rakeface, am I still “chilling” and “morally repugnant”. LMAO. Tell me about how it’s OK for dems to wiretap but not GOPs.

    Fucking idiot.

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    Rog Rabbit had that excessively long laugh cuz Mrs. Rabbit was popping the pimples on his back. At Rog’s age, that’s called FOREPLAY!!!!!

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    You are welcome to show up… just make sure you tip your server. The conservatives who showed up last time did about ten percent.

    Commentby Will— 5/9/06@ 2:16 pm [……………………………………..Er, Will, Remember when Hillary stiffed the waitress for the entire meal? Now that was classy!!!]

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    Hey Rakeface, am I still “chilling” and “morally repugnant”. LMAO. Tell me about how it’s OK for dems to wiretap but not GOPs.

    Fucking idiot.

    Commentby Mark The Redneck Kennedy— 5/9/06@ 3:48 pm [………………..Spying on towel head terrorists is bad, but Hillary with 800 raw FBI files on “political enemies” is OK because “she cares”. Democrats: idiots!]

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    Hey, MTR “I WAS TAKEN BY A CRACK WHORE” Kennedy:

    Which Dem are you talking about? Please refresh my memory.

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    27, GBS, As Kennedys, we do as we wish, and you, as Democrat sheep, shut the fuck up! Got it???

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    29, E3 GBS, ALL Democrats shut the fuck up when dealing with the Kennedys. BTW, would your wife enjoy taking a little beach walk with my cousin William Kennedy Smith and my cousin Michal Skakel? Maybe your daughter would enjoy a little “Kennedy attention”?

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    JCH,

    Do you believe in the Bible?

    Do you believe the Bible the true word of God?

    Do you believe that God’s Law supercedes man’s law?

    If so, what part of “Thou SHALT not lie” don’t you understand?

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    “No wonder the Richard Popes, Stefan Sharkanskys and Mr. Cynicals of the world want us gone. As Dick Cheney would say, take your best shots.
    Commentby joel connelly— 5/9/06@ 5:44 pm”

    The issue is not whether Richard, Stefan or I want you “gone”. We are merely 3 former subscribers. It appears there are alot more folks than us that think you are doing a poor job of reporting the news and editorializing. Can you imagine that Joel??? The P-I is viewed as a LEFTIST rag by many, many R’s and even some D’s. Just keep doing what you are doing and the result is certainly predictable.
    Your own P-I website claims you are “The Voice of the Northwest since 1863.” It takes a major, major fuck-up to destroy something that has been around for 143 years, don’t you think joel? Are you proud of your contribution to the downfall of a great institution? Or are you going to continue to arrogantly blame us ignorant readers for failing to appreciate your less than considerable talent????
    To artificially create some October, 1977 date as the prediction of the P-I demise by some Schell lacky and get some joy out of the fact that you are still here is laughable joel.
    Perhaps you could turn the P-I into one gigantic COMIC STRIP joel. The sad news is, you already have.
    Bye-Bye P-I!!!

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    THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ALCOHOLIC AND A DRUNK IS THE DRUNK (GBS) DOES NOT HAVE TO GO THE MEETINGS.I NEVER GET TIRED OF YOUR STORY HOW YOU HAD THE BAD MARINE OFFICER KICKED OUT.PLEASE TELL US AGAIN.

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    GBS DOES YOUR EMPLOYER KNOW YOUR A FELON WHO GOT BOOTED OUT OF THE NAVY(BCD)DIDNT ANYONE TELL YOU IF YOU HAD A COURT MARTIAL THAT WAS A FELONY.OH WELL SOME YOU WIN AND SOME YOU LOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSE.

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    Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL in case the neo-commie bastards plotting to imprison me at Bunny Meadwos are staking it out.

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    You fuckers really think we’re going to forget about Florida, don’t you? Keep thinking that, pal.

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    jimmy — you don’t glow over there, but you’re a long way (translation: a lot of expensive gas) from anywhere else.

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    Man I NEVER get tired of the story about how JCH LIED about his military service! It’s better than anything on Leno!

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

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    Makes you wonder what they saw in each other. I guess like attracts like, and LOSERS attract LOSERS.

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    Ballot box works fine — if it ain’t stuffed. Gotta watch out for those Republican-owned voting machine companies, though.

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    Apparently you wouldn’t know a rabbit laugh if one slapped you in the face! A rabbit laugh looks like this:

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR 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  43. 1261

    31

    “JCH, … what part of “Thou SHALT not lie” don’t you understand?” Commentby GBS— 5/9/06@ 5:20 pm

    He’s gotta break that one because he doesn’t have the balls to commit adultery, the backbone to kill anyone, or the brains to break any of the other seven.

  44. 1262

    32

    Who cares if you and your ilk view the P-I as a “leftist rag?” You are viewed as a prattling old imposter by many.

  45. 1263

    33

    “Yo” is a contraction of the word “Y’o” and is properly spelled “Y’o.” Like many wingnuts (e.g., Sharansky), Y’o can’t even spell his own fucking name.

  46. 1264

    If this is the best that both the right and the left have to offer then count me out. I heard better reparte’ on my grade school playground than I’ve found on this diseased strain of “discussion.” It’s no wonder that the right is deemed corrupt and the left is seen as powerless.

  47. 1265

    Gale @ 47:

    Allllll righty then, fire you best shot. Which topic would you like to discuss?

    Federal deficit
    National debt
    Slowest recovery from the shallowest recession
    US trade deficit
    Strength of the Euro vs. US Dollar
    Price of gold
    Price of oil
    Alternative fuels
    Energy policies
    Declining real wages in the US
    Health care
    US’s infant mortality rate at 32 of the 33 industrialized nations
    FEMA
    Iraq
    Iran
    Corruption of congress
    The Constitution
    NSA warrantless spying
    Bush’s 750 signing letters
    Secret torture prisons
    Gay marriage
    Abortion
    Harriet Miers
    Porter Goss
    Karl Rove
    Brewster Jennings
    WMD’s

    What?
    Is there a specific top you have in mind?

    Bring your “A” game. The reason the discussions on this blog are the way they are is because conservatives have nasty habit of lying and making unfounded arguments.

    Liberals are sick and tired of beating back the same lying talking points with truth, facts and figures. The number of conservatives that have stopped coming here because they got tired of being stung with the truth is huge.

    The only ones still here are representative of the moronic 31% who still approve of the job Bush is doing as president. Quite frankly, there’s no reasoning with people whose ability to reason, articulate or speak to truth is severely hampered by their own lack of moral clarity.

    Balls in your court. Let’s see what ya got.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. I’ll be there a little late, but should make it in time for the podcast. (Sorry Will.)

Last week I suggested that I wouldn’t be surprised to see one or more candidates for the open seat in the 43rd LD show up… and kudos to Bill Sherman for not making me a liar.

And as always, if you’re on the other side of the mountains, please join Jimmy at the Tri-Cities chapter of DL, every Tuesday from 5:30 onwards, Tuscany Lounge, 1515 George Washington Way, Richland.

Comments

  2. 1267

    Hayduke… I suppose there’s a chance… but I’m not sure I’d be at liberty to write about it if I was.

  3. 1268

    SHUT down the southern border.
    Stop paying for healthcare costs and educational costs for illegals.
    Stop the Maxican baby born here/American citizen racket NOW.
    Levy SEVERE fines and JAIL time against those who hire illegals. When there are no jobs available for illegals, they will go HOME. Demand ID to vote!!!!!
    Too SEVERE? Not compared to MEXICAN immigration practices!

  4. 1269

    25 million Mexican illegals want to come and eat and drink for free. Will you libs pick up the check, or “axe” someone else to pay? hehe, JCH

  5. 1270

    Another Hawaii “Positive”: NO land border with Mexico. It’s a hell of a long swim!!!

  6. 1271

    Mr. X, How does a “gay” figuire out if he “gives” Tookie love or “takes” Tookie’s 9 inches up his rectum? Please explain………………..

  7. 1272

    Mr. X, How does a “gay” figure out if he “gives” Tookie love or “takes” Tookie’s 9 inches up his rectum? Please explain………………..

  8. 1273

    Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL because of the traffic problems on Goldy’s server caused by all the gibberish posted by JCH … Penn State’s most embarrassing alumnus ever!

  9. 1274

    JCH seems to have some sort of severe case of internet tourette’s syndrome.
    i wonder, does his condition affect his personal life as much as his online life? because if it does, someone should think of an intervention. it would clearly be impossible for anyone so crude and intolerant to exist in society, even east of lake washington.
    also, he seems to have quite a preoccupation with gay sex, prison sex, and hunky gangsters. do they have internet access that would permit blogging in king county corrections?
    perhaps like so many wingnuts, mr jch is nothing more than a self-hating, deeply closeted gay man, comme jim west?

  10. 1275

    Jesse Jackson got out of the shower and was drying off when he looked in

    the mirror and noticed he was white from the neck up to the top of his head.

    >

    >In sheer panic and fearing he was turning white and might have to

    >start working for a living, he called his doctor and told him of his

    >problem.

    >

    >The doctor advised him to come to his office immediately. After an

    >examination, the doctor mixed a concoction of brown liquid, gave it to

    Jesse and told him to drink it all. Jesse did and replied,

    >

    >”That tasted like bull shit!”

    >

    >The doctor replied, “It was, Jesse You were a quart low.”

  11. 1276

    Couple of CIA Bigshots were just on Hardball and admitted that Bush ordered the Iraq build up long before 9.11 and that in fact Bush took our itel assets tracking bin Laden out of the field (also before 9.11) to put them in Iraq. So much for being safer under the Pretender and Thief!

  12. 1277

    For 20 years the Republicans wanted to drill in ANWAR, but noooooo!, the whiney tree hugging DUMMYCRATS stopped it every time. ANWAR is estimated to have reserves GREATER than that of Saudi Arabia which would end American dependence on foreign oil forever.
    Vote for Hillary, watch gas hit $15.00 a gallon, but the snow cockroach will be safe. LOL!!!

    Kennedy and Kerry has been working for the last 20 or so years to get gas up to $5.00 a gallon so people would have to Conserve.

  14. 1279

    There’s way more oil off the coast of Florida than in ANWR. Why did REPUBLICAN Jeb Bush beg brother GEORGE BUSH to keep Florida from the drill list? What happened to America’s independence from foreign oil? Will the right attack Bush for pandering to his brother’s political ambition instead of looking out for the nation’s oil interests? Hell no the fucking hypocrites don’t care about the nation one bit.

    Still waiting for Janet S to tell us when she’s ready to send her kids to fight in Iraq and when she’s ready for an oil well in her back yard. I’d suggest one in JCH’s backyard but as a resident of the sex-offender unit at McNeil Island, he doesn’t have any oil to give.

  15. 1280

    Time for Roger rabbit to sing the National Anthem is Spanish we can hear on an IPOD broadcast… :-)

  16. 1281

    Here’s a great quote from Ronald Reagan that clearly illustrates Republican concern and intelligence when it comes to things environmental: ” If you’ve seen one tree you’ve seen them all.”

    Kind of illustrates the Gipper’s big picture approach. The picture’s so big everything is a globulous blur!

    I love it!

  17. 1282

    podcast of the Seattle Chapter of the Liberal Lonely Hearts Club… yippee. {snicker}…

  18. 1283

    I took the bus this afternoon, and JCH was sitting on the bench, babbling incessantly. The thing that is good about witnessing him in person, aside from his handsome red stocking cap and khaki windbreaker, is that almost nothing he says is comprehensible, save for the occasional, raised voice “godddamn”.

    But, even here, when all his words can be understood, the experience is the same.

  20. 1285

    9

    “JCH seems to have some sort of severe case of internet tourette’s syndrome. i wonder, does his condition affect his personal life as much as his online life?” Commentby socialarsonist— 5/2/06@ 2:24 pm

    Why do you think he lives on a fucking island?

  21. 1286

    12

    “ANWAR is estimated to have reserves GREATER than that of Saudi Arabia which would end American dependence on foreign oil forever.” Commentby Hillary [JCH]Clinton— 5/2/06@ 3:54 pm

    Yeah and the moon is made of green cheese.

    ANWR Reserves: 5.7 billion (95% probability) to 16.0 billion (5% probability) barrels, with a mean value of 10.4 billion barrels. (Source: USGS)

    Saudi Reserves: 262 billion barrels. (Source: Oil and Gas Journal)

    JCH Math: 5.7 billion is more than 262 billion

    Like I said, JCH is an EMBARASSMENT to his alma mater …

  22. 1287

    13

    “Okay, I give up. What does the second ‘A’ stand for in ‘ANWAR’?” Commentby Hayduke— 5/2/06@ 3:59 pm

    There is no second “A” in “ANWR.”

  23. 1288

    18

    “took the bus this afternoon, and JCH was sitting on the bench, babbling incessantly”

    Was it, by any chance, something about a box of chocolates?

  25. 1290

    “JCH seems to have some sort of severe case of internet tourette’s syndrome. i wonder, does his condition affect his personal life as much as his online life?” Commentby socialarsonist— 5/2/06@ 2:24 pm

    Why do you think he lives on a fucking island?

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 5/2/06@ 7:02 pm {RR, I thought I lived in “Kent”?? I guess you have “updated” your dumbass meter.

  27. 1292

    To kill Iranian and Iraqi towel head terrorists I think Jesus would enjoy use nuclear tipped high, low, medium [“J” band homer] Tomahawks with “sat” controlled self correcting guidance. In addition, Jesus would enjoy a few hundred sub, ship, and air launched Tomahawks targeting simultanious military, industrial, and civilian Iranian targets, including nuclear processing facilities and government buildings. No doubt Jesus would freak at the new Seawolf subs, Trident subs, LA Class subs, and I’ll bet he would be amazed at the Tomahawk payloads of B-1s, B-2s, B-52s, and F-111s. Last but not least, God himself would love to see sea launched Tomahawks from Naval DD and CG platforms. CVNs [nuclear aircraft carriers] in “Gonzo Station” [The Arabian Gulf] would also be part of both the initial attacks [ALPHA STRIKES with F-18s [Super Hornets] and lots of hig priority secondary targeting. After the initial raids both Jesus and God would enjoy frequent USAF B-52 Linebacker II strikes to finish any missed targets. Let’s see……..Did I miss anything?? No, but the US Navy [F-18s] and USAF F-15 Eagles are still available for after strike recon, so Jesus could ride “backseat” in a Super Hornet or Eagle to get a great post strike view. Finally, the Iranian oil is now American oil. ALL OF IT!!! Nothing like 99 cent a gallon gas to pump into a 427/400 HP Vette!!!

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Please join us for some hoppy ale and hopped up debate.

I don’t know of any special guests who have committed themselves to show up this evening, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw one or more candidates for the open seat in the 43rd LD. (That’s not just an invitation to the candidates… that’s a suggestion.)

For those of you on the other side of the mountains, please join Jimmy at the Tri-Cities chapter of DL, every Tuesday from 5:30 onwards, Tuscany Lounge, 1515 George Washington Way, Richland. Oh… and tomorrow night I plan to drop by the Burien chapter at Mick Kelly’s Irish Pub, 435 SW 152nd ST.

Comments

  2. 1294

    Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL because of traffic problems caused by the crush of admiring fans, autographer seekers, bail bondsmen, bill collecters, and animal control officers.

  3. 1295

    Build a doxen more refineries as well. And drill in the Gulf. Hell, Cuba and Mexico are, and the Americans libs are silent. Also, note NO libs bitch about Russia drilling in Siberia. Commies and Mexicans and Cubans drilling for oil is OK. Only capitalists are bad and evil. I think John Kerry said this as he arrived in his private Gulfstream G5 [25,000 gallons of JP5] right before he jumped into his limo [V8, 7 mpg]. [sarcasim intended]. Also note that the oil companies make a 10% profit on selling a gallon of gas. The government makes 20% of the cost in taxes. Note NO Democrats wants lower taxes on gas. Gee, I wonder why??????????? [sarcasim intended]

  4. 1296

    A little something for you to chew on at your drunkfest tonite, girls…

    Off Center

    In a eulogy of hippie priest William Sloane Coffin, the Boston Globe’s James Carroll offers a curious theory about the link between biology and politics:

    By his preaching and living, Bill Coffin told us that the divisions of the human heart can be brought into unexpected harmony. This, of course, always assumes that ”the heart is a little to the left.” That book title of his, derived from the Brazilian Archbishop Helder Camarra, is the perfect example of the free and freeing mind of Bill Coffin, a sly but gentle jibe at right-wingers, reminding them that the human body itself suggests we are all meant to be liberals.

    We guess this is what passes for science on the left today. But Sunday’s Doonesbury cartoon offers evidence to the contrary. It shows a man in bed reading a magazine (presumably the July 2005 issue of Society). “Whoa…what a disturbing trend!” he thinks. “We should be pitching in.” Whereupon his wife joins him in bed and gives him her back. The following dialogue ensues:

    He: I just read an amazing piece on birthrates…Apparently, fertility correlates with political views. The more conservative you are, the more children you’re likely to have. Think of the implications for the political future of this country! If conservatives continue to reproduce like rabbits…it won’t be long before people like us are completely marginalized.

    She: I really am too tired tonight.

    He: Oh, I know. All I’m saying is inaction has consequences.

    If human biology predisposed us to liberalism, liberal women wouldn’t be so tired–or liberal men so tiresome.

  5. 1297

    Hey, since there are no invited guests, send out an invitation to Ted The Swimmer. He loves free drinks and you guys could talk about all kinds of good librul causes. You could have a big hate fest about oil companies. I’d luv to hear it.

  6. 1298

    Why did Ronald Reagan allow 241 Marines to be blown up by suicide bombers in Beirut in 1983? They were sitting ducks out there on the tarmac — and he was personally warned about it. If it had been Carter the A-Hole Reps would have been calling for his head!

  7. 1299

    Yeah Poon… Reagan was well known for putting up with crap from our enemies. Other than ending the fucking cold war, he didn’t do much for world peace.

  8. 1300

    Truman once said that Jews live like Republicans and vote like Puerto Ricans.

    Also ironic–Jews were leaders of the Civil Rights movement, yet Blacks are more anti-semitic than the average American.

  9. 1301

    I wish illegals would be declared felons.

    Then for every traffic stop, car crash, drunken brawl arrest, burglary, domestic abuse and all the others, they could be deported.

    They have no right make us pay for their public defenders, or even their jail meals.

    It should be overnight in jail and “goodbye” the following day.

    The first two things we need are the fence from hell and and end to anchor baby citizenship.

    But it’s clear we will not be getting them.

    Taxpaying Conservative Americans have been slapped in the face, for the world to see.

    Thanks Jorge and Fox.

  10. 1302

    REPUBLICAN OPPOSES FLIGHT 93 MEMORIAL

    Rep. Charles H. Taylor, R-NC, who chairs an Appropriations subcommittee that oversees Interior Department spending, is blocking funds for construction of a memorial at the crash site of 9/11 Flight 93.

    Taylor apparently opposes spending federal money to acquire land for memorials — so, presumably, he would also be against the Washington Memorial, Lincoln Memorial, Iwo Jima Memorial, Vietnam Memorial, Korean War Memorial …

  12. 1304

    According to Wikipedia,

    “Conservatives often argue that the primary cause of death of the Soviet Union was the massive fiscal spending on military technology ….

    “However the proximate cause of the end of the Cold War was ultimately Mikhail Gorbachev’s decision, publicized in 1988, to repudiate the Brezhnev doctrine.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War

    So if you want to honor the man really responsible for ending the Cold War, it is this man:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Gorbachev

    P.S., the Nobel Peace Prize committee agrees with me; they awarded the Peace Prize to Gorbachev, not Reagan.

  13. 1305

    However, if MTR is right — if Reagan should be credited with gulling idiotic Soviet leaders into spending themselves into bankruptcy, then he’s right up there with Osama bin Laden, who gulled an idiotic American leader into spending the U.S. into bankruptcy.

  14. 1306

    2

    We ARE drilling in the Gulf, dummy! Where do you think virtually all new domestic production is coming from? Land-based U.S. oil production has been declining for decades, but the U.S. remains the world’s second largest oil producer, thanks to Gulf production.

  15. 1307

    Right wingers believe the earth is hollow and filled with oil. They think if environmentalists would allow oil companies to drill more holes, oil will last forever. They’re convinced the U.S. has limitless untapped oil reserves that are being “locked up” by a nationwide drilling ban.

  16. 1308

    1. Close the borders. Not next month. Now. Send the National Guard. Send American troops. What are they for if not to defend the borders of this country? Start stringing the barbed wire. Patrol with dogs. Do whatever needs to be done, but shut the border down. Let the rest of the world scream, but we have every right to defend our borders against invaders.

    2. Immediately pass legislation providing for harsh penalties for any and all businesses and individuals who hire illegal aliens. No half-measures. Make it hurt. Last week immigration officials arrested over 1000 illegal aliens working for one company that makes pallets and shipping crates. The officers of that company should be headed to jail, and the company should be seized by the government and sold at auction with the proceeds being used to pay for securing our border. Put employers in jail — take their stuff. Let them know that this is serious and that hiring illegal aliens is tantamount to giving aid and comfort to the enemy. The hell with their campaign contributions. Fine them and jail them. Make ’em scream. As for getting these jobs done? Pay a wage that will attract Americans. It won’t hurt. The majority of people working in agriculture and construction in this country are citizens. They’ll do the work. Spreading pine straw may be a problem.

    3. Heavily tax all wire and other transfers of money from illegal aliens to their homelands. If Mexico is getting $20 billion a year from illegal aliens in the U.S., seize about 30% of it. Call it a fine. That $7 billion could also be spent on border and immigration control.

    4. Change the law so that any child born to a person in this country illegally does not automatically become an American citizen. That child will adopt the citizenship of its mother.

    5. Put an end to providing all but emergency social services to illegal aliens. No food stamps, no welfare benefits, no access to taxpayer-funded government schools … no taxpayer-funded government services except for life saving medical care.

    Enact those proposals, and what would we have? Those who have already illegally crossed the border will have one helluva time finding work in this country. No trabajo, no dinero. If they do find work they’ll have another problem sending the money they earned back home. So .. they’re here with no job, no prospect of finding a job, and no way to send their money back to Mexico without a heavy fine if they do happen to find work. Plus, they can’t tap into the great American welfare state. What is there left to do? Go home! That’s about it! And please notice that this is all accomplished without passing any laws making the illegals felons or threatening to deport them or put them in jail.

    I heard of one other possible solution recently … one that is apparently being given some consideration in Washington. Simply pass a law about illegal immigration that matches, word-for-word, the law in Mexico. Being in Mexico illegally is a crime, yet Mexico screams when we try to criminalize illegal aliens in this country. If our law read exactly the same as does theirs, what are they going to say?

  18. 1310

    Poon – You are exactly right. The dems in congress took the initiative to place pershing missiles in Europe. The democrats in congress stood up on their hind legs and demanded a 600 ship navy. The democrats in congress thought up SDI and tested it to prove to commies that it would work. I think it was Ted The Swimmer who said “… tear down this wall.”

    Yes, it was the democrats who ended the cold war. They had to drag Reagan along with them.

    Or did I get something above wrong? Hmmmm….

  19. 1311

    RE 7: rEAGAN DIDN’T END THE COLD WAR. tHE dEMOCRATIC cONGRESS DID.

    Commentby harry poon— 4/25/06@ 8:42 pm [……………………………………………………………..Er, Harry, That was possible the dumbest post ever on HS.org]

  20. 1312

    HARRY YOU FUCKIN IDIOT THE MARINES WERE IN THE BARRAKS AND NOT ON THE TAR MAC AS YOU STATE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT OR SHUTE THE FUCK UP.OH THATS RIGHT THE TRUTH NEVER STOOD IN THE WAY OF YOU ASSHOLES BEFORE.

  22. 1314

    2

    We ARE drilling in the Gulf, you fucking idiot! We’re also building more refineries, and have been for years — U.S. refining capacity has been steadily INCREASING since 1996, when CLINTON was president.

  23. 1315

    If it wasn’t for the OIL DRILLING in the GULF OF MEXICO that started when CLINTON was president, we’d be in an even worse hurt! Offshore Gulf oilfields that were explored and developed when CLINTON was president not only account for all the increase in U.S. oil production over the last decade, but have also replaced declining onshore domestic production, as well. THANK YOU PRESIDENT CLINTON!!!

  24. 1316

    But don’t expect any gratitude from Republicans who have done everything possible to drive up fuel prices by driving gas guzzlers and building McMansions that require 10 times as much heating and cooling as the average Democrat’s cottage.

  25. 1317

    “Yo” is a contraction of “yahoo” (as in “trailer park yahoos”) and is properly spelled “Y’o.” Y’o, like most trollfucks, is a hopeless illiterate who can’t even spell his own fucking name! The only solution is a brain transplant! Replace Y’o’s defective brain with a chimp brain! This probably won’t improve Y’o’s intellectual functioning significantly, but at least he’ll know how to scratch his own fleas.

  27. 1319

    But don’t expect any gratitude from Republicans who have done everything possible to drive up fuel prices by driving gas guzzlers and building McMansions that require 10 times as much heating and cooling as the average Democrat’s cottage.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 4/26/06@ 12:01 am [……………………………………………………………………………RR, You mean like the Kerrys and Kennedys??? hehe, JCH]

  28. 1320

    18

    “The democrats in congress thought up SDI and tested it to prove to commies that it would work.” Commentby Mark The Redneck— 4/25/06@ 9:20 pm

    Hee haw har de har ha ha … this is 25 years later and it STILL doesn’t work! Where the fuck do you get your “information” from.

  29. 1321

    We ARE drilling in the Gulf, you fucking idiot! We’re also building more refineries, and have been for years – U.S. refining capacity has been steadily INCREASING since 1996, when CLINTON was president.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 4/25/06@ 11:58 pm [Another flat out lie. You wacko Democrat libs have done EVERYTHING possible to stop the US from becoming oil independent. From environmental
    wackos, to “STOP THE PIPELINE in Alaska, to no drilling in ANWR, to hundreds of road blocks to stop new refineries, Democrats are the towel heads best friends. Both hate America.

  30. 1322

    If it wasn’t for the OIL DRILLING in the GULF OF MEXICO that started when CLINTON was president, we’d be in an even worse hurt! Offshore Gulf oilfields that were explored and developed when CLINTON was president not only account for all the increase in U.S. oil production over the last decade, but have also replaced declining onshore domestic production, as well. THANK YOU PRESIDENT CLINTON!!! […………………………………………………………………………RR, Quite possibly the dumbest post of your HA.ORG career. NO ONE believes this. You rewrite history, and you are sad.]

  31. 1323

    Even if you can get a missile interceptor to hit an incoming ICBM or warhead — which so far has been accomplished only under carefully scripted and controlled laboratory conditions designed more for theater and public relations than to provide realistic testing of engineering concepts — all Russia or another adversary has to do is overwhelm the defensive shield by raining down hundreds of decoy warheads. If even one real warhead gets through, you’re fucked.

  32. 1324

    Even if you can get a missile interceptor to hit an incoming ICBM or warhead – which so far has been accomplished only under carefully scripted and controlled laboratory conditions designed more for theater and public relations than to provide realistic testing of engineering concepts – all Russia or another adversary has to do is overwhelm the defensive shield by raining down hundreds of decoy warheads. If even one real warhead gets through, you’re fucked.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 4/26/06@ 12:15 am [………………………………………………………………………..Thank you, expert Rabbit. Next you will be telling us Iran is making nukes for friendly power purposes only.]

  33. 1325

    29

    “Democrat libs have done EVERYTHING possible to stop the US from becoming oil independent. From environmental wackos, to “STOP THE PIPELINE in Alaska, to no drilling in ANWR, to hundreds of road blocks to stop new refineries, Democrats are the towel heads best friends.” Commentby Hillary [JCH]Clinton— 4/26/06@ 12:11 am

    Hogwash! America can NEVER AGAIN produce enough oil to satisfy our consumption. That’s because we can produce only 40% of our needs. Any suggestion there are vast unexploited reservoirs of oil on American soil is pure bullshit! No land mass on earth has been more intensively developed and exploited for petroleum than the USA. We consume 25% of the world’s oil, but have only 3% of the world’s oil reserves.

    Let’s take ANWR, for example. ANWR is one of the largest oilfields ever discovered on the North American continent, certainly one of the top 5. Optimistic estimates put ANWR reserves at 10 billion bbls, roughly double those of the East Texas Field, the largest single oilfield in the lower 48 states. Yet, ANWR’s oil would supply current U.S. consumption for only about 15 to 18 months.

    The largest oilfield found in the U.S. portion of the Gulf of Mexico is Thunder Horse, a recent discovery which has not yet come on line. TH holds an estimated 1 billion bbls. All other U.S. oil strikes in the Gulf have been less than 1 billion bbl. The U.S. consumes a billion barrels of oil every 55 days. You would have to find seven Thunder Horses a year, for perpetuity, to make the U.S. oil-independent — but this math works only if there is ZERO GROWTH in U.S. oil consumption.

    No one — absolutely NO ONE — in the oil industry itself thinks the U.S. can drill its way to oil independence. Oil industry execs will be the first to tell you the U.S. must import oil, because domestic reserves simply can’t meet U.S. needs. None of these execs are willing to say publicly there is a treasure trove of untapped oil locked up somewhere in the U.S. which — if freed of environmental restrictions or red tape — would solve U.S. energy problems. They know that’s simply not true.

    The notion of U.S. oil independence is nothing but a rightwing pipedream or fantasy. The U.S. has the most mature oilfields in the world. Every square inch of U.S. soil has been explored. America’s onshore domestic oil production peaked in 1971 and has been declining since then. Except for ANWR, all of the significant U.S. discoveries since the 1970s have been in the Gulf of Mexico, where the shallow water oil was found years ago, and exploration is now moving into deeper waters, made possible by recent technological developments.

    Deep-water drilling in the Gulf is expensive and — as we saw last fall — vulnerable to disruption by the hurricanes that regularly form over the Gulf’s warm waters. As the world’s temperature continues to rise, the frequency and ferocity of these storms will increase, causing even more disruption to Gulf production.

  34. 1326

    Why the Environment is Important

    Because if it can’t support human life, we die.

    Easter Island and the Anasazi Indian culture of the American Southwest are two well-known examples of societies believed to have suffered ecological collapse, followed by starvation and depopulation.

    Liberal/Democrat answer: Manage land, soil, water, and other resources for sustainable production of fish, agricultural products, livestock, and other products needed by humans — so the land can support a human population indefinitely.

    Wingnut/Republican answer: Fuck the planet! Armageddon and the Rapture are coming within 5 years, so it doesn’t matter if we destroy the planet, because no humans will be around anyway.

  35. 1327

    M. Lapin @ 34

    Why would you argue with that idiot?

    INSULT HIM.

    Everything that he says is purely offensive and merits no material response.

    He’s nothing. He’s a violent-minded closet homosexual who lives on resentment to protect him from his own self-hate.

    He has lurid sexual fantasies about black men in prison even though he thinks black people are sub-human monkeys. He’s a sick person. Sure, he’s a reasonably typical Republican, but we don’t argue with HIS kind.

  37. 1329

    Ya’ll discuss Chrissi taking us from $1.4billion surplus to $700mm deficit in less than 1 year? Or is the $2 billion downward swing all Bush’s fault?

  38. 1330

    Wingnut/Republican answer: Fuck the planet! Armageddon and the Rapture are coming within 5 years, so it doesn’t matter if we destroy the planet, because no humans will be around anyway.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 4/26/06@ 12:47 am [………………………………….”Rapture within 5 years!!!!” [Roger Rabbit] Mark the Redneck, Please add this quote to the dumb ass list that liberal Democrats say. Rabbit is off his meds!!!!!!!!

  39. 1331

    36, Dlaw……….Thanks for the kind, liberal, open minded post. Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooser!!!!!!!!!!

  40. 1332

    I have lurid sexual fantasies about black men in prison even though he thinks black people are sub-human monkeys. He’s a sick person. Sure, he’s a reasonably typical Republican, but we don’t argue with HIS kind.

    Commentby dlaw— 4/26/06@ 2:45 am [I think this makes your post a little more “closer to home”.]

  41. 1333

    “He’s nothing. He’s a violent-minded closet homosexual who lives on resentment to protect him from his own self-hate.”…………………………………………………………………. [ Dlaw, “Love, love, love!!!” [Try singing this singing like John Lennon!!]]

  42. 1334

    34, RR, Shorter and better written……”We’re doomed!!!” “We give up”!! “The world is ending”!! “Only Bill Clinton can save us”!!

  43. 1335

    M. Lapin @ 34

    Commentby dlaw………………………………………………………………………………[Oh, a little French!! How appropiate!! Dlaw, I thought you might be French!!]

  44. 1336

    While the media continues to blame the big oil companies for gouging U.S. motorists as they collect record breaking profits, the windfall profits raked in by the government in the form of energy tax revenue actually dwarf the oil companies’ jackpot.

    The press sounded the alarm last year when the largest U.S. oil company, ExxonMobil Corp, announced profits of $36 billion. But according to the Tax Foundation, the biggest price gouging profiteer was the U.S. government, cashing in to the tune of $54 billion in oil and gas taxes.

    “Tax collections on the production and import of gasoline by state and federal governments are already near historic highs,” the think tank says. “In fact, in recent decades governments have collected far more revenue from gasoline taxes than the largest U.S. oil companies have collectively earned in domestic profits.”

  45. 1337

    “the think tank?” If JCH is paying attention, I would call it a “thinkless tank.”

    God forbid those tax dollars go to pay for the highways, bridges and roads our cars NEED to drive around.

    And with the federal government unable to keep up with demand for increased vehicle traffic, and crumbling infrastructure, it’s absolutely ridiculous to compare massive Big Oil price gouging with a government that can barely keep up with the demand for infrastructure improvements – especially now that tax cuts have helped decimate federal highway spending.

    And don’t forget – Big Oil has received a fair share of Big Tax Cuts in the past 5 years, too.

    If JCH ever tries to engage in an actual issue, the results are ALWAYS hilarious!

  46. 1338

    as a deluded drunk rabbit often says….HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    … tell us again how influential the progressive media is!

    ‘PROGRESSIVE’ MEDIA STALLS: ‘AIR AMERICA’ IN AUDIENCE PLUNGE NYC, ‘DAILY KOS’ BOOK SELLS ONLY 3,600 COPIES
    Wed Apr 26 2006 11:39:51 ET

    Left-leaning new media has hit turbulence at the marketplace, newly released stats show.

    A book hyped by major media as documenting a progressive revolution of “blogs” and political power, DAILY KOS ‘CRASHING THE GATE,’ has sold only 3,630 copies since its release last month, according to NIELSEN’s BOOKSCAN.

    [NIELSEN claims only 2,062 copies of DAILY KOS have been purchased at the retail level; the rest coming through ‘discount’ outlets.]

    Meanwhile, the just released radio Winter Book [Jan-Mar 2006] from ARBITRON shows AIR AMERICA in New York City losing more than a third of its audience — in the past year!

    Among all listeners 12+, it was a race to the bottom for AIR AMERICA and WLIB as mid-days went from a 1.6 share during winter 2005 to a 1.0 share winter 2006.

    During PM drive, host Randi Rhodes plunged to 27,900 listeners every quarter hour, finishing 25th place in her time slot, down from 60,900 listeners every quarter hour in the fall.

    A network source says the radio ratings released today do not reflect the overall growth of the broadcast.

    “The demos are better, and listeners trust AIR AMERICA to give them the real truth on issues and the Bush presidency,” says the insider.

    Developing…

    as a deluded drunk rabbit often says….HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  48. 1340

    Kerry’s Tire-Slashers Sentenced

    [Democrats at play……..Nothing like a little felony from a few of the black Democrats’ finest!!!!!!!!! Read on!! I wonder if Jesse and Al will show up to bitch and whine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]

    A congresswoman’s son and three Democratic campaign workers were sentenced Wednesday to four to six months in jail for slashing tires outside a Bush-Cheney campaign office on Election Day 2004.

    The men pleaded no contest in January to misdemeanor property damage. A fifth worker was found not guilty.

    “This case had to be a public example of what can happen when you interfere with voters’ rights,” said Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Michael Brennan, who rejected prosecutors’ recommendation of probation for the four men.

    The state Republican Party had rented more than 100 vehicles to give rides to voters and poll monitors on Nov. 2, 2004. The cars were parked outside a GOP campaign office when the tires were punctured. The vandalism left the drivers scrambling for new vehicles.

    Story Continues Below

    Among those sentenced Wednesday were Sowande A. Omokunde, the son of U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore, D-Wisconsin, and Michael Pratt, the son of former acting Milwaukee Mayor Marvin Pratt.

    “I love my son very much. I’m very proud of him,” Moore said. “He’s accepted responsibility.”

    Omokunde was sentenced to four months in jail; Pratt and Lewis Caldwell of Milwaukee were sentenced to six months; and Lavelle Mohammad of Milwaukee

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

Apparently, our weekly podcast has been growing in popularity, with last week’s show logging over 500 downloads thus far. We’ve also had a number of requests from people who want to listen in live as we record it, so we’ll be adding a number of headphones tonight for those interested. First come, first serve.

For those of you on the other side of the mountains, please join Jimmy at the Tri-Cities chapter of DL, every Tuesday from 5:30 onwards, Tuscany Lounge, 1515 George Washington Way, Richland.

Comments

  1. 1346

    Will any Democrats go to see Universal’s new movie, “United 93″? Will Hillary allow libs to see this movie??

  2. 1347

    No nukes!! No drilling in ANWR, the rest of Alaska, FL, off California, or the Gulf. No new refineries!! No wind power off Kennedyland!! No LNG ships!! Oh……….And it’s Bush’s fault gas is $3.25 a gallon!! And it’s Bush’s fault we import 60% of our crude from the Middle East!! [What a bunch of dumb ass libs!!!!]

  3. 1348

    Goldysteinberg, …………….A little Hawai’i background news. The New Orleans Levy Board [ALL Democrat….mostly black] LOVED to have their “conference” in Kapalua, Maui each and every year. [very expensive] The “civil servants” were well armed with “guvment” credit cards and spent taxpayer money like water at the PGA golf courses and the Plantation Estate for expensive meals and entertainment. Nothing like black “civil servants” with “guvment” credit cards to run up huge bills and ass fuck the New Orleans Levy Board for the cost. THis is how the Democrats spent the Levy funds prior to Katrina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Still the libs will say………………… “Somehow Bush is at fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” [hehe] Fuck you, dumb ass lib, JCH

  4. 1349

    Omaha Nebraska to bring back Segregation!

    LINCOLN, Neb. — The Nebraska Legislature voted yesterday to divide the Omaha school system into three districts — one mostly black, one predominantly white and one largely Hispanic — in a move decried as state-enforced segregation.
    Supporters, including the bill’s sponsor and the legislature’s only black senator, said the plan would give minorities control over their own school board and ensure that their children are not “shortchanged” in favor of white youngsters.
    http://www.washtimes.com/natio.....-4251r.htm

  5. 1350

    Roger Rabbit very rarely attends DL, and virtually never three weeks in a row, so due to traffic problems caused by the crush of admiring fans, papparazzi, bail bondsmen and process servers, GOP spies and NSA spooks, and meter maids, there’s virtually no chance the virtual rabbit will get virtually drunk tonight.

  6. 1351

    4

    Just what you’ve been waiting for, Michael! I’ll bet you can hardly wait until it’s PC to call them “colored” again, too! Won’t be long before you have them picking cotton, and slavery is just around the corner!

    GOP = CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVE racists

    “When you cut right through it, right-wing ideology is just ‘dime-store economics’ – intended to dress their ideology up and make it look respectable. You don’t really need to know much about economics to understand it. They certainly don’t. It all gets down to two simple words.

    “‘Cheap labor’. That’s their whole philosophy in a nutshell …
    you see, cheap-labor conservatives are defenders of corporate America – whose fortunes depend on labor. … The more desperately you need a job, the cheaper you’ll work … if you are wealthy – or a ‘wannabe’ like most dittoheads – your wealth, power and privilege is enhanced by labor forced to work cheap. …

    “Cheap-labor conservatives encourage racism, misogyny, homophobia and other forms of bigotry. Why? Bigotry among wage earners distracts them, and keeps them from recognizing their common interests as wage earners.” (He should have added, “and slaves are the cheapest labor of all.”)

    http://www.conceptualguerilla......php?id=103

  7. 1352

    What these damn-fool Republicans don’t get is — when they succeed in forcing everyone to work for third world wages, and shift the entire tax burden to wage earners by exempting inheritances and investment income from any and all taxation, who the hell will have money to buy the goods and services their businesses sell? These fucking idiots will doom themselves (and the rest of us) with their own stupid economic policies.

  8. 1353

    Roger Rabbit, CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVE……..Is this like when black Democrat Michael Jackson didn’t pay his employyees for 3 months?? Would that be cheap labor, or is it OK because Jackson used to be black???

  9. 1354

    Nice to see the other side so desperate they have to fall back on appealing to their fellow bigots.

  10. 1355

    To: Richard Pope

    Since you are so concerned about Darcy’s one year of law school at the University of Washington, why don’t you explain the following (which appears in some of your online lists of qualifications, but not others):

    “I also pursued graduate studies in Economics, including International Trade and Econometrics at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville. I taught Economics classes at the University of Tennessee and worked as an Economics researcher.”

    http://www.munileague.org/cec/...../PopeR.htm

    Have you fully explained how long you were in graduate school at the Univ. of Tennessee, and why you left without getting a degree?

    By the way, was George Spiva still teaching economics classes during your time at U.T.K? And what is the current capacity of Neyland Stadium?

  12. 1357

    Hey – I have a great idea for Drankin’ Librully…. Invite Ted The Swimmer to join sometime. Think about that… Ol’ Ted never been one to turn down a drank or three ‘specially if they’re free, and you guys could talk about all kindsa kooky librul ideas. Tax the rich. Socialized meds. Throw out 2nd Amendment. “Fairness doctrine”… all that shit. Be a hoot…

  14. 1359

    12

    ““Fairness doctrine”… all that shit.”

    Ummm, what fairness doctrine are you talking about?

  15. 1360

    We oughtta invite Georgie W. Chucklenuts to DL. He could even have his own little private corner where he could pretend not to drink or do coke.

  16. 1361

    E – The one where librul media tries to shut down competition, and where libruls try to silence all ideas that don’t conform with theirs. See, libruls CAN’T win intellectually, so they must silence opposition. Kinda like chicoms…

  17. 1362

    8

    How do you know Michael Jackson is a Democrat? He’s rich, obnoxious, and a child molester. That looks pretty damn Republican to me!

  18. 1363

    10

    “To: Richard Pope Since you are so concerned about Darcy’s one year of law school at the University of Washington …”

    It occurs to me that if Darcy’s one year at U.W. Law is a problem, then Richard’s three years at U.W. Law is three times as big a problem.

  19. 1364

    “The one where librul media tries to shut down competition, and where libruls try to silence all ideas that don’t conform with theirs.”

    That’s a good laugh. I wonder if any conservatives who bellyache about the so-called “liberal bias” in the media remember who actually quashed the Fairness Doctrine in the first place (or even really know what it was). I would have thought that they’d be the ones screaming to bring it back, if there really is a liberal bias.

  20. 1365

    15

    “We oughtta invite Georgie W. Chucklenuts to DL. He could even have his own little private corner where he could pretend not to drink or do coke. Commentby Dr. E— 4/18/06@ 5:39 pm”

    Won’t work. I’ve already cased Montlake. He’ll just go to the can and do it in the stall.

  21. 1366

    16

    “The one where librul media tries to shut down competition, and where libruls try to silence all ideas that don’t conform with theirs.”

    You mean like we do here on HA?

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

    You’re funny — you should be on Jay Leno!

  22. 1367

    E – We don’t have to control the media. Our ideas are right and we win at the ballot box.

  23. 1368

    Now we have crude oil up at over $70 a barrel. Gas prices have gone up about 10 cents in the last week. If you’re driving a car that gets 15 miles per gallon that means that you’re spending less than three-fourths of one penny more for every mile you drive. If you have a 15 mile commute to work, this 10 cent rise in gas prices is costing you 20 cents a day. Wow! I can see why you’re so upset!

    With these gas prices going up politicians are seeing another golden opportunity to demagogue the oil companies. Hitler blamed the Jews. Demagogue politicians blame the oil companies. They know they’re blowing smoke, but they also know that the average American was educated in government schools and is simply too ignorant to understand the truth about gas prices and oil company profits.

    Most government school graduates can’t even so much as explain the difference between a profit and a profit margin. Let’s say that you’re selling a widget for $10 and you’re making a 10% profit. Your profit is $1.00. Your profit margin is 10%. Now let’s say that your costs go up by $9 a widget. So, you double the price at the widget store. Now widgets are selling for $20. Your costs are $18 per widget, so you’re making $2.00 on every sale. Your profit has doubled to $2.00 per widget, but your profit margin is still 10%. You’re still making the same profit on every dollar that you invest in your business, but your profits have doubled! So … as surely as wet streets follow rain … along comes the politician to demagogue you for doubling your profits. He starts to talk about a windfall profits tax to take that extra dollar away from you. Oh, to be sure, he knows what the real story is here — but he also knows that his poorly educated constituents don’t know. The playing field is set for some grandstanding and pandering … and our politico is off to the races!

    Sometimes it makes you wonder what the real purpose of our hideous government school system is. Are those schools there to educate Americans to the greatest extent possible? Or are those schools there to educate people just to the point that they can become good little servants of our increasingly-powerful Imperial Federal Government?

  24. 1369

    8

    How do you know Michael Jackson is a Democrat? He’s rich, obnoxious, and a child molester. That looks pretty damn Republican to me!

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 4/18/06@ 6:22 pm [Er………RR, MJ is black. Any questions???]

  25. 1370

    500 listeners for podcasting liberally? Why, that’s almost the market share for Dori “I throw softballs to Dave Reichert” Monson!

  26. 1371

    How funny is it that Puddybud was just trying to defend JCH on race issues, and then JCH fires off a bunch more blatantly racist crap on this board? C’mon, JCH – it’s been a few hours. How’s about some more anti-semitic remarks that Puddy seems to think are “pro-Israel?”

  27. 1372

    -along comes the politician to demagogue you for doubling your profits. He starts to talk about a windfall profits tax to take that extra dollar away from you.-

    OK, nevermind what I said about JCH being a total idiot. I think we need more “conservatives” like this running around, and defending Arab dictatorships and Big Oil monopolies from the average consumer.

    Are we sure JCH isn’t just a liberal in disguise, trying to make right wingers look REALLY bad?

  28. 1373

    OK – my bad, Puddybud. I see JCH already got an anti-semitic post in there on line three. I would LOVE to see this psycho use the same kind of racist and anti-semitic talk in his Sound Politics posts…but, alas.

  29. 1374

    Wabbit @6

    Your comments might make the least bit of sense if you ignore the fact that this is being done by liberal people of color, not conservative white people.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. I’ll be there, knocking back a couple of pints of Manny’s, and recording the latest edition of Podcasting Liberally… and who knows, perhaps Cienna will stop by so the two of us can exchange obscenity laden rants?

For those on the other side of the mountains, please join Jimmy at the Tri-Cities chapter of DL, every Tuesday from 5:30 onwards, Tuscany Lounge, 1515 George Washington Way, Richland.

Comments

  1. 1378

    The female Florida teacher who had sex with a 14-year-old male student is off the hook. If it had been a male teacher having sex with a 14-year-old female student, they’d have cut the guy’s you-know-what off and sent him to the slammer for life.

    Double standard? I’d say yes.

  2. 1379

    HorsesAss—-The Alco-Blog
    The more you drink….the more sense these KLOWNS make!!!

  3. 1380

    Leftist Pinheaded KLOWNS===A group of semi-humans who believe in their ability to defy the laws of basic economics and create a haven for their Godless New Age Progressive bowel movement.

    It ain’t gonna work KLOWNS.
    Here is an assignment for tonight…..Affordable Housing!
    Seattle & King Kounty have spent millions & millions studying & talking about this issue….as a result of their bullshitting, the problem has gotten worse by a magnitude of 3!!

    Come back tomorrow with your PLAN!! Give us a strategy that includes how you are going to pay for it and a clear picture of the end product and ALL CONSEQUENCES of your Plan….good & bad.

    I know it’s easier to sit around for the umpteenth time bashing Bush and blaming the R’s for everything that is wrong with your pathetic lives!
    But give it a rest for a night and discuss something productive…a real life PROBLEM for many.

    I’m not holding my breath….you idiots have NEVER shown the ability to solve a single problem…only create new ones!

  4. 1381

    Mr. Cynical,

    Here’s a way to get affordable housing in Western Washinton: get Boeing, Microsoft, and all of the military bases to leave the state. That’ll drive down the price of housing!

    And ruin the state’s economy!

  5. 1382

    Libertarian–
    Don’t give these idiots any ideas!!
    They are mainly a bunch of Bourgeois Bohemians…..
    They long for the good life…
    But pretend to be earthy hippies!!!

  6. 1383

    This is your big night to get liquored up enough to make sense of your past weeks posting endeavors. I’ve adapted another Brad Paisley favorite…this one is entitled “Alcohol”…to explain your delusionary state. I would like to entitle it “Alco-Blog”:

    I can make HorsesAss pretty.
    I can make you believe Goldy’s lies.
    I can make scrawny KLOWNS pick a fight with somebody twice their size.
    Well, I’ve been known to float some false rumors,
    An’ I’ve been known to cause Hepatitis C.
    Well, I can make you new gay friends, or get you fired from work.

    And since the day I left Milwaukee,
    Lynchburg an’ Bordeaux, France,
    Been making the bars lots of big money,
    An’ helpin’ white people dance.
    I got you in trouble in Gay Bars,
    But Blogging, now that is a ball.
    You had some of the best times you’ll never remember with me:
    Alco-Blog; Alcoh-Blog.

    I got blamed at Goldy’s coming out reception,
    For his life-partnerss embarrassing speech.
    And also for those naked pictures of you with jimmy the KLOWN!.
    I’ve influenced Sims and McDimwit,
    I helped Cornholey write like he did.
    And I’ll bet you a drink or two, that I can make you put that lampshade on your head.

    Cause since the day I left Milwaukee,
    Lynchburg and Bordeaux, France,
    I been making a fool out of folks just like you,
    An’ helping white people dance.
    I am medicine and I am poison,
    I can help you up or make you fall.
    You had some of the best times you’ll never remember with me:
    Alco-Blog.

    Yeah, since the day I left Milwaukee,
    Lynchburg an’ Bordeaux, France,
    Been making the bars lots of big money,
    (Helpin’ white people dance.)
    Yeah, I got Goldy in trouble in Gay Bars,
    But blogging, now this is a ball.
    You had some of the best times you’ll never remember with me:
    Alco-Blog; Alco-Blog.

    HorsesAss ===Alco-Blog (the Blog that makes more sense the more alcohol you consume!!!)

  7. 1384

    Things not to do:

    Call people when you are drunk – especially old girlfriends
    Email people when you are drunk – it is forever on the record
    Comment in the HA thread when you are drunk… nuff said?

  8. 1385

    Re: Comment #1…Tell that to Mary Kay LeTourneau.

    Folks, sounds like Mr. Cynical has certainly handed us a valid and worthwhile issue to ruminate upon, absent anyone else coming up with a better topic. Mind you, “affordable” housing doesn’t mean just “cheap”. We could all just sit on our butts until the Chinese turn off the credit faucet and watch our little housing bubble go bye-bye. There’d be lots of places on the market for a lot less money than now, but of course that would be because nobody would have any money to buy ’em. Also there’s the possibility that things could go the other way and we’d have inflation up the kabongus and you couln’t buy a shack by the tracks with an 18-wheeler full of thousand-dollar bills–which would be a good thing because you wouldn’t be able to afford fuel for the truck.

    So, yeah, why not brainstorm about some sort of Option Number Three. Can’t do much worse now, can we? Maybe instead of Habitat For Humanity, we could do Garages for Grungers, or Places for People in Parks, or Triplexes for Tree Huggers, or (fill in the blank_______________________)

  9. 1386

    ArtFart–
    At least you are thinking about this issue…
    I agree, affordable does not necessarily mean “cheap”.
    I’ve always felt TAXES and the Cost of Regulation MUST relate to the ability of the average working person to pay.
    That commodities like housing are directly affected by Taxes and Regulation.
    Unfortunately, in many places, the Bureaucratic SLUDGE is a never-ending cesspool that must be fed.
    It grows & grows…creating more Bureaucrats that must be fed.
    Pretty soon something has to give.
    The first sign is the Housing Affordability Index.
    Bureaucrats ignore it like an ugly, bleeding mole on their face.
    They pretend it’s not there….but it is, and it’s cancerous.
    Bureaucrats could care less about affordable housing.
    Elected officials could care less too.

    The problem now is that the cost of lots is sooooooo high when the Bureaucrat 35% mark-up is added on, affordable housing is now only a “feel-good” discussion topic.PS
    How about “Yurts for KLOWNS!!”

  10. 1387

    ArtFart–
    I doubt any of your KLOWN pals will weigh in on this discussion. They have a combined Economic IQ of about 20 (excluding you, of course sir!).

    LEFTIST PINHEADS are long on ideas….and short on understanding how to equitably pay for things. And reeeeaaal short on understanding unwanted consequences. These idiots would love to see the Homebuilders work for FREE and there association be eliminated. They fail to understand PROFIT and RETURN ON CAPITAL INVESTMENT.

    ArfFart, I really do believe the lack of understanding basic economics is a serious problem. The affordable housing crunch is the “Tip of the Iceberg” and precursor to many other serious problems.

    King Kounty and Washington State are trapped in a hopeless pile of costly and ineffective Bureaucratic Goo. One of the main reasons I supported Rossi was he would clean house in the out-of-control Department of Ecology….a total nightmare created by Gregoire!! Dept of Ecology has grabbed power on water and other issues they have no legal business grabbing.
    They intimidate folks who challenge what THEY think our State should be.
    As a consequence, you are moving toward a State few can afford to live in.

  11. 1388

    Mr. Cynical, why don’t you be honest and admit that you are a paid hack of the development industry? Go ahead and say it: You make a living spewing corporate propaganda.

    While you’re at it, you might also admit that you know from internal polling that you can’t come right out and state your underlying policy agenda because Western Washington voters would never buy it. So you take on assumed names, and mask your agenda behind populist-sounding rhetoric.

    Only one problem: You’ve been such an overbearing ass that it is rather difficult to take any of your arguments seriously. You come into Goldy’s house, piss all over the place, and then expect folks to listen to you.

    Are you nuts, or what?

  13. 1390

    Too bad that cowardly piece of shit CynASScal won’t show his face in public. Bet he’d have a whole different approach. Spend all his time with his tail nicely tucked between his legs…his nose firmly planted right up the asshole of the meanest looking person there.

    I love it when cowardly republicans spew garbage and then hide behind their computers.

    Come on Cyn, show up. Are you afraid?

  14. 1391

    Before the election contest Mr Cynnical had some decent points to make. After the truth was finalized and Gregoire was proclaimed Governor he short cirucited. In all honesty, I feel sorry for the guy. He had something on the ball, and now it is only spittle.

  15. 1392

    Are you nuts, or what?
    Commentby Green Thumb— 3/21/06@ 7:16 pm

    Listen Mr. PecanMan:
    No one pays me a penny to express my opinions here or anywhere. Period. I have seen what the LEFTIST agenda has done and is doing to this State. We have grossly underfunded State Pension Plans which is merely a deceitful way for the State to borrow money and mortgage our kids future.
    If you think I am pleased with Bush and the R’s in D.C. on the Budget and deficit, you are sadly mistaken.

    Government on all levels is fiscally out of control. It will all eventually come to a head. I can only do & say so much about National Politics. It’s a cesspool. I have more say-so on a State and local level….I do my best.

    Why don’t YOU admit you are either a State worker or enviro-whacko determined to turn back the hands of time no matter how much damage you do to families and the economy???

    I have already EARNED all the money I’ll ever need. I’m concerned about my kids and grandkids. Pinheads like you GreenThumb are clueless about economics. You just glue together a bunch of random pipedreams. Get a job loser!!!

  16. 1393

    er.. uh.. cunical… I was talking about you posting when you are drunk.

    But really, are you getting paid to do this? I can only find time in my busy day to stop by, read, maybe say hello in the comment thread and move on. You have a LIFE here. Are you on unenmployment, disability (my first guess), or welfare? Anyone with this much time on their hands to jack off in the comment threads like you has to either be being paid by someone, or on public assistance. Which leads me to my last question… if you are not getting paid to hang out here, am I subsidising you? Not sure how I feel about that…

    hmmmm…

    Well, gotta go. I’m busy so answer to whoever you want.

  17. 1394

    Tell us more about how God is going to smote us, Mr. Cynical!

    “create a haven for their Godless New Age Progressive bowel movement.”

    Man, that is GOLD!

  22. 1399

    9

    “The problem now is that the cost of lots is sooooooo high when the Bureaucrat 35% mark-up is added on, affordable housing is now only a “feel-good” discussion topic.PS”

    Hey Cynical — can you enlighten us about how much the DEVELOPER MARKUP is?

  23. 1400

    DISCLAIMER: Mr. Cynical/Kevin Carns is a paid propagandist for corporate interests. His wet dream is to turn Washington state into a deregulatory utopia like Alabama . . . or, better yet, Bolivia. Viva la Cynical!

  24. 1401

    HOUSING ECONOMICS ACCORDING TO MR. CYNICAL

    1. Housing always sells for the highest price the market will bear.

    2. If a developer can build a 3-bedroom house for $200,000 and the market will bear $300,000, the developer’s profit is $100,000.

    3. If developer impact fees and the cost of regulation (e.g., energy-efficient insulation, windows, and appliances) add $20,000 to the cost of the $300,000 house, the house still costs $300,000 but the developer’s profit is only $80,000.

    4. Therefore, developers always bitch about impact fees and regulations.

  25. 1402

    erratum

    3. If developer impact fees and the cost of regulation (e.g., energy-efficient insulation, windows, and appliances) add $20,000 to the cost of the $200,000 house, the house will still sell for $300,000 but the developer’s profit is only $80,000.

  26. 1403

    14

    “Before the election contest Mr Cynnical had some decent points to make. After the truth was finalized and Gregoire was proclaimed Governor he short cirucited.”

    This also happens to my keyboard when I spill coffee on it. No problem; trolls are cheap — just throw Mr. Cynical away and get a new troll.

  27. 1404

    15

    “I have seen what the LEFTIST agenda has done and is doing to this State.” Commentby Mr. Cynical— 3/21/06@ 7:54 pm

    So have I … which is why I keep voting for Democrats.

  29. 1406

    Now of course, we all know Mr. C hates public power. That’s because he hates electricity, farmers, and jobs. That stuff is good only if private enterprise can make a buck off it.

  30. 1407

    OK, everybody, since the Columbia River Project is the biggest thing leftists ever did in our state, let’s all hit Mr. Cynical over the head with it in unison …

  33. 1410

    NEVER MIND THAT COLUMBIA RIVER ELECTRICITY WON WORLD WAR 2, MR. CYNICAL WOULD RATHER LOSE A WAR THAN LET THE GOVERNMENT BUILD A DAM

  34. 1411

    GRAND COULEE DAM IS A LEFTIST PLOT TO KEEP GREEDY UTILITY COMPANIES FROM RAPING OUR POCKETBOOKS

  39. 1416

    The funny thing, though, is that after these “soshulist” project are built … the goopers are against tearing them down. They don’t want to give up their “soshulist” farm subsidies, either, or all the “soshulism” that Bush throws at big corporations. They love “soshulism” as long as they’re getting it instead of paying for it. That’s because Republicans are

    F R E E L O A D E R S

  41. 1418

    23

    “DISCLAIMER: Mr. Cynical/Kevin Carns is a paid propagandist for corporate interests. His wet dream is to turn Washington state into a deregulatory utopia like Alabama . . . or, better yet, Bolivia. Viva la Cynical!” Commentby Green Thumb— 3/21/06@ 8:48 pm

    GT — Mr. C denies being paid by BIAW to post here (see #15). Personally, I find it hard to believe anyone would pay him for what he posts, but if they are, they must be paying him by the word.

  42. 1419

    Before the election contest Mr Cynnical had some decent points to make. After the truth was finalized and Gregoire was proclaimed Governor he short cirucited. In all honesty, I feel sorry for the guy. He had something on the ball, and now it is only spittle.

    Commentby Cougar— 3/21/06@ 7:53 pm

    Cougar what do you have to offer?

  43. 1420

    If God is everywhere, then you can’t be Godless. Jesus is God , so he couldn’t have died for anyone’s sins, because you can’t kill God. The fish trick was a good one , though.

  45. 1422

    Hey Cynical, why don’t you explain to me again how developers lower their prices below market to make homes affordable for people of modest means!

  46. 1423

    I’m curious to know why a developer would charge only $280,000 when he could get $300,000 if the $20,000 of impact and regulatory costs went away.

  47. 1424

    Hey Cynical, tell me again how developers lower their prices to homebuyers if they can shift the costs of new roads and sewers to property taxpayers! I want to know how that works.

  48. 1425

    Mr. C. has a very interesting theory about housing economics. His theory is that housing prices are a function of what it costs to buy the land and build the house, instead of a function of what the market will bear. Apparently Washington regulates housing prices like utility rates — the state sets the going rate for housing, and the developer is only allowed to earn a reasonable ROI (“return on investment”). I want to know how to get in contact with the State Fair Housing Prices Commission because I want to work for them!!!

  49. 1426

    Hey Cynical, you also still haven’t told me how your washing machine changes $100 of L & I taxes into $100 of Rossi Slush Funds simply by feeding it through two rollers. I want to know what’s inside your washing machine that does that!

    When a $100 bill goes in Mr. C’s washing machine, it’s L & I taxes, and when it comes out, it still looks like a $100 bill, but now it’s Rossi Slush Funds! I want to know how the machine does that.

  50. 1427

    These BIAW folks sure are smart! They not only know how to turn L & I taxes into Rossi Slush Funds, they even lower housing prices below market value when they don’t have to pay impact fees and regulatory costs!

  52. 1429

    I can’t help it! I like to eat. I especially like to eat Stefan’s garden (and shit on his lawn). (munch munch) :D :D :D

  53. 1430

    Cynical — tell me again about the kind-hearted developer who lowered his price to $280,000 even though he could get $300,000! I never get tired of that story!

  56. 1433

    43

    But Lucy, He CAN die for our sins, and then come back, because He’s God and God can do anything! Well, almost anything. Even God fucks up sometimes. The proof of that is the fact He made some Republicans. No … wait … I’m wrong … the DEVIL did it!!!

  57. 1434

    My bad! — blaming Republicans on God. I’m probly gonna go to Hell for that. Hey God, I’m sorry, pleeze forgive me, I don’t wanna go to Hell! If I do, I’ll have to bunk with Republicans.

  59. 1436

    55

    Diebold guarantees they’ll steal the election for the GOP on the first count, and no recount is possible because they leave no paper trail!

  60. 1437

    But Diebold won’t give you your money back if their machines don’t work as advertised, because no Republican ever lets go of a dollar once he gets his paw on it — that’s against their creed!

  61. 1438

    Not to change the subject, or anything, but I see the murders of unarmed Iraqi civilians by U.S. Marines made the front page of both the P-I and Times today. Way to go, Bushies! Winning more hearts and minds in Iraq.

  62. 1439

    It probably doesn’t hurt anything (except the dead Iraqis), though. This war is already lost. The Bushies lost it when they decided to torture innocent Iraqi civilians. Though even if they hadn’t done that, they would have lost it anyway through sheer military incompetence.,

    Needless to say, after the wingies lose the war, they will blame their losing the war on the journalists who caught them torturing and murdering innocent civilians.

  63. 1440

    In other news, Bush wants to further privatize government operations by selling your income tax return to commercial data miners and mailing list operators.

  64. 1441

    BUSH’S LATEST FIRE SALE OF GOVERNMENT PROPERTY: YOUR TAX RETURN

    From the front page of today’s Seattle Times:

    “Rule change could allow sale of your tax return
    “By Jeff Gelles

    “Knight Ridder Newspapers

    “PHILADELPHIA — The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is quietly moving to loosen the once-inviolable privacy of federal income-tax returns. If it succeeds, accountants and other tax-return preparers, … will be able to sell information from individual returns — or even entire returns — to marketers and data brokers.

    “The possible change is raising alarm among consumer and privacy-rights advocates. It was included in a set of proposed rules that the Treasury Department and the IRS published in the Dec. 8 Federal Register, where the official notice labeled them ‘not a significant regulatory action.’

    “IRS officials portray the proposed changes as house-cleaning measures needed to update outmoded regulations that were adopted before the IRS began accepting returns electronically. …

    “Critics call the proposed changes a dangerous new breach in personal and financial privacy. …

    “Criticism of the proposal also came from Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. In a letter last Tuesday to IRS Commissioner Mark Everson, Obama warned that … tax information could be resold … increasing consumers’ vulnerability to identity theft and other risks.

    “‘There is no more sensitive information than a taxpayer’s return, and the IRS’s proposal to allow these returns to be sold to third-party marketers and database brokers is deeply troubling,’ Obama wrote. … ”

    For complete story, see http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....irs21.html

    (This material probably is copyrighted by somebody or other — if you want to know who, click on the link and look it up yourself! I’m not your fucking research assistant.)

  65. 1442

    Don’t worry folks, the IRS assures us that some 17-year-old computer hacker in Moscow or Nigeria getting your tax return is nothing to worry about, because this is just a “housekeeping” thing and your privacy is “outmoded.” Besides, Bush needs the money he’ll get from selling your tax return to commercial data companies to help pay for more millionaire tax cuts. Also, his dad owns stock in those companies, so you’re helping Bush to grow his inheritance, too!

  66. 1443

    Well come on, people, you didn’t really think YOUR TAX RETURN would stay private under the Bush regime, did you??? After all, these are the same folks who brought you warrantless wiretapping, FBI agents attending Drinking Liberally, and the surveillance helicopters that fly over my burrow every night.

  67. 1444

    The militia loons probably will use this as another excuse to not file tax returns. They’ll say, “See? We told you! If you file a tax return, the government will give your name, address, social security number, how much you make, where you work, and bank account numbers to the Russkies! Well, you don’t have to file a tax return, because the Sixteenth Amendment was never ratified no matter what they say!”*

    (* “Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. Go directly to jail.”)

  69. 1446

    Roger and Gang it appears that you all were there before and what did you do about it then? Roger where is to the lieutenant today and did he pay for his sins? Roger was you there or some place else that had to deal with the same problems?
    March 16, 1968 – Over 300 Vietnamese civilians are slaughtered in My Lai hamlet by members of Charlie Company, 1st Battalion, 20th Infantry U.S. Army, while participating in an airborne assault against suspected Viet Cong encampments in Quang Ngai Province. Upon entering My Lai and finding no Viet Cong, the Americans begin killing every civilian in sight, interrupted only by helicopter pilot Hugh Thompson who lands and begins evacuating civilians after realizing what is happening.

    Roger your favorite President was really love durning that conflict

    Public opinion polls taken after the Tet Offensive revealed
    Johnson’s overall approval rating has slipped to 36 percent, while approval of his Vietnam war …

    http://www.historyplace.com/un.....-1965.html

  70. 1447

    You gotta admit it’s pretty clever for Bush to announce his plans to sell our income tax returns in an election year! He must be counting on those Diebold voting machines working as they’re designed to do.

  71. 1448

    Best the retarded righties can do is talk about something more than 30 years old. ANYTHING to try to take the attention off the fact that their guy, that’s right THEIR guy – is one of the lowest rated presidents in HISTORY. OH THE SHAME!

  73. 1450

    Roger Rabbit, Americans are just faceless ATM machines for the NeoCons.

    If they could make a profit out of nuking us outright they would in a second.

    Ooops, no need to give them ideas.

  74. 1451

    Allied intelligence had predicted that there would be some attempted city attacks during Tet, but the size, the scale and, above all, the careful planning and coordination of the actual assaults took the U.S. and South Vietnamese military by surprise.

    Roger the intell was just as sloppy then as now?

  76. 1453

    GREGOIRE REPEALS $5 DAY-USE FEE AT STATE PARKS

    Here’s another “Soshulist” announcement in today’s Seattle Times:

    “$5 fee at state parks is gone
    “By DAVID AMMONS

    “The Associated Press

    “OLYMPIA — Washington is removing the $5 day-use parking fee from its 120 state parks. … Gov. Christine Gregoire signed the repeal bill Monday, and state parks Director Rex Derr said rangers will no longer ask that day users pay the fee.”

    For complete story, see http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....ks21m.html

    (Notice: This story is copyrighted, so please mail 50 cents to the Seattle Times after reading it on their web site.)

  77. 1454

    Dang! Now you can go to state parks for free. What will those “Soshulists” think of next? Free public education? Publicly-owned dams? No-toll highways?

  78. 1455

    No matter what else Gregoire accomplishes as governor, this is the one that will be remembered.

    Gary Locke gave us the $30 car tab; Christine Gregoire got rid of the $5 state parks day-use fee.

  79. 1456

    Klake tries to have all his posts cleared through his legal advisor Richard Pope to avoid mistakes like using Nazi Propaganda to prove the absurd motion that “Blacks and Indians owned more slaves than White people did”!

    C’mon, Klake.. don’t listen to Richard.. Post what you know!!! Post some Nazi Propaganda!

  80. 1457

    74

    “Roger the intell was just as sloppy then as now?” Commentby klake— 3/21/06@ 11:01 pm

    No, it was considerably better then — they knew which country the war was in. What I mean is, they didn’t go looking for the Viet Cong by invading Mozambique.

  81. 1458

    Roger was you in that Army helicopter that spotted what was going on down on the ground? Roger it is easy to be an armchair General, but there is a different view if you were in the mist of the battle.

    On March 16, 1968, Chief Warrant Officer Thompson and his two crewmen were flying on a reconnaissance mission over the South Vietnamese village of My Lai when they spotted the bodies of men, women and children strewn over the landscape.
    Mr. Thompson landed twice in an effort to determine what was happening, finally coming to the realization that a massacre was taking place. The second time, he touched down near a bunker in which a group of about 10 civilians were being menaced by American troops. Using hand signals, Mr. Thompson persuaded the Vietnamese to come out while ordering his gunner and his crew chief to shoot any American soldiers who opened fire on the civilians. None did.
    Mr. Thompson radioed for a helicopter gunship to evacuate the group, and then his crew chief, Glenn Andreotta, pulled a boy from a nearby irrigation ditch, and their helicopter flew him to safety.
    http://www.mishalov.com/Citations.html

  86. 1463

    Roger the soldiers never change only the battlefields and the enemy.

    WASHINGTON, March 29, 2005 – Sgt. First Class Paul R. Smith, killed nearly two years ago defending his vastly outnumbered Army unit in a fierce battle with elite Iraqi troops for control of Baghdad’s airport, will receive the Medal of Honor, the nation’s highest military award, administration officials said Tuesday.

    No soldier who served in Afghanistan or Iraq after the Sept. 11 attacks has yet received the medal. The last conflict to produce a Medal of Honor recipient was in Mogadishu, Somalia, in 1993; two soldiers were awarded the medal posthumously for actions there, later depicted in the movie “Black Hawk Down.”

    Sergeant Smith led a defense of a compound next to the airport against a much larger force of Special Republican Guard troops, manning a heavy machine gun, repeatedly firing and reloading three times before he was mortally wounded. Fellow soldiers said his actions killed 20 to 50 Iraqis, allowed wounded American soldiers to be evacuated, and saved an aid station and perhaps 100 lives.

    Sergeant Smith’s “extraordinary heroism and uncommon valor without regard to his own life in order to save others are in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service,” a draft of the medal citation says.

    President Bush will present the award to Sergeant Smith’s widow and children at a White House ceremony on Monday, the second anniversary of the airport battle and the soldier’s death.

    http://www.mishalov.com/smith-iraq.html

  89. 1466

    Kevin Carns is an angry young man who likes to scare old people and children with crank phone calls about sex offenders

  90. 1467

    Flaky klake is too stupid to be a Nazi. He’s only a wannabe.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/21/06@ 11:11 pm
    Thanks Roger I love you to. Only friends can call each other names and still respect each other.

  91. 1468

    Carns got his start as a young kid by leaving paper bags full of dog shit on people’s porches, ringing the doorbell, and running away.

  95. 1472

    90

    “Thanks Roger I love you to. Only friends can call each other names and still respect each other.” Commentby klake— 3/21/06@ 11:14 pm

    Why do you love me? I don’t love you. I don’t respect you, either. And you’re not my friend, you fucking Nazi.

  96. 1473

    Rumsfield and Saddam could shake hands again, and give each other noogies before they put the ropes around their necks.

  98. 1475

    Oops, I forgot, you’re too stupid to be a Nazi. Let’s try it again, this way:

    Why do you love me? I don’t love you. I don’t respect you, either. And you’re not my friend, you fucking Nazi wanna-be.

  99. 1476

    But let us all never forget that what really matters is that Clinton lied about a blow job and Ted Kennedy accidentally drowned his girlfriend 30 years ago.

  100. 1477

    Why did Bush fly his business partners, the bin Ladens, out of the country the day after 9/11?

  101. 1478

    Why do you love me? I don’t love you. I don’t respect you, either. And you’re not my friend, you fucking Nazi.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/21/06@ 11:21 pm

    Roger didn’t your mother teach you not to hate your neighbor?
    You never know who will feed you your next carrot.

  103. 1480

    101

    “Roger didn’t your mother teach you not to hate your neighbor?”
    Commentby klake— 3/21/06@ 11:26 pm

    I don’t hate you, klake. Wait … let me think about that for a minute. (pause) Come to think of it, I do hate you klake. Don’t take it personally. I hate all unpatriotic, America-hating, fascist weasels. It’s a generic thing.

  104. 1481

    101

    “Roger didn’t your mother teach you not to hate your neighbor?”
    Commentby klake— 3/21/06@ 11:26 pm

    She doesn’t know my neighbors.

  105. 1482

    Thats OK Roger.
    New way to cook rabbit and still have it taste great.

    http://italianfood.about.com/o.....lr1258.htm

    Marinated Hare Prepared Following the Method of the Hunters of Cardoso, or Lepre Marinata all’uso dei cacciatori del Cardoso: Cardoso is a town in the overlooking Versilia, the Tuscan coastal plain north of Pisa, while the recipe is drawn from a book by Mariù Salvatori de Zuliani. It calls for hare, but will also work well with other furred game that requires marinating to draw out the gaminess, for example wild boar, or venison.

  106. 1483

    101

    “You never know who will feed you your next carrot.” Commentby klake— 3/21/06@ 11:26 pm

    I can safely assume a CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVE won’t.

  107. 1484

    For you folks that got a bad old rabbit, this will improve the taste.

    http://italianfood.about.com/o.....lr1241.htm

    Rabbit Spiedini, or Spiedini di Coniglio: Rabbit is a dry meat, and therefore requires help if it is to emerge from the grill without having become tough and chewy. And it does so very well in this recipe from the Abruzzo. To serve 6:
    INGREDIENTS:
    • A rabbit weighing about 3 pounds (1.5 k), dressed, skinned, beheaded, and chopped into pieces
    • For the Marinade:
    • Dry white wine
    • 2 sprigs of fresh rosemary
    • Salt and pepper
    • For the Cooking:
    • Thin slices of cured lard or pancetta
    • Bay leaves
    • Mild sausage, cut into rounds
    • Skewers

  108. 1485

    “When you cut right through it, right-wing ideology is just ‘dime-store economics’ – intended to dress their ideology up and make it look respectable. You don’t really need to know much about economics to understand it. They certainly don’t. It all gets down to two simple words.

    “‘Cheap labor’. That’s their whole philosophy in a nutshell – … a short and pithy ‘catch phrase’ that describes them perfectly. You’ve heard of ‘big-government liberals’. Well they’re ‘cheap-labor conservatives’.

    “‘Cheap-labor conservative’ is a moniker they will never shake, and never live down. Because it’s exactly what they are. You see, cheap-labor conservatives are defenders of corporate America – whose fortunes depend on labor.

    “The larger the labor supply, the cheaper it is. The more desperately you need a job, the cheaper you’ll work …. If you are a wealthy elite – or a ‘wannabe’ like most dittoheads – your wealth, power and privilege is enhanced by a labor pool, forced to work cheap.”

    For more commentary about CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES, see http://www.conceptualguerilla......php?id=103

    (This material probably is copyrighted, but I’m sure CG won’t mind my quoting it or linking you to his web site, which is well worth a read.)

  109. 1486

    Wow! This thread already has over 100 posts! That’s more than Stefan’s sucky little blog gets in a month.

  110. 1487

    If you folks like the rabbit recipes, this will provide shelter for your next little bunny.

    http://exoticpets.about.com/cs.....rms=rabbit
    Choosing the Right Cage for Your House Rabbit
    Pet rabbits can be quite readily kept in cages in the home, with some freedom to run free in the house (after thoroughly rabbit-proofing, of course). Rabbits take fairly well to litter training so many people will let their bunnies run free in the home for at least part of the day. Even if your rabbit is thoroughly toilet trained and your house thoroughly rabbit proofed, a cage will act as a safe haven or nest, where the rabbit can retreat to rest.
    There are a lot of cages sold for rabbits that aren’t really ideal rabbit homes, though. Some are just too small, and many have wire floors, which may make cleaning easier but doesn’t provide much comfort to the bunny

  111. 1488

    Come to think of it, Stefan, why won’t you share the profits from your lawsuit against King County with the generous donors to your “legal action fund” who paid for your lawsuit? Is it because you’re a greedy prick, or because you can’t hold a job and need the money? Maybe both.

  112. 1489

    107

    Since I’m now up to 10 3/4 lbs., I should be able to feed 21 people — if you can catch me!

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  113. 1490

    Hey Stefan — I know you read this blog — after all, yours is so boring even you don’t read it!

  114. 1491

    As you can probably tell, I didn’t attend DL tonight, so you’ll have to look elsewhere for the ingredients for your rabbit stew, klake. Try, uh, Antarctica. Don’t hurry back. Nobody will miss you.

  115. 1492

    Good night Roger you have been quite entertaining tonight Thanks for your great wisdom and humor.

  117. 1494

    Hey klake don’t leave before looking at the pictures of what happened to the guy who didn’t read the warning label and picked up a rabbit by his ears!

  119. 1496

    Hey klake don’t leave before looking at the pictures of what happened to the guy who didn’t read the warning label and picked up a rabbit by his ears!

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/21/06@ 11:52 pm

    Not bad Roger but I bet you have seem worst wounds than that in your life time.

  120. 1497

    81

    Hey everybody, get a load of klake, a winger, trying to take right-wing credit for CWO Thompson’s heroism at My Lai. Never mind that wingers vilified Thompson (and all the rest of the My Lai whistleblowers) for 35 years — now that klake is turning off a new leaf, we’re supposed to forget all about that. Just like that forgave Jane Fonda.

  121. 1498

    Klake is one of those “Unless you knew better you would never know he was a Nazi Propaganda spewing racist asshole”!

    Bye Bye Racist Dumbfuck tool of the NeoCon Facist regime in America!

    Sleep Tight!

  122. 1499

    klake is sort of a reverse Jane Fonda — a warmonger who wants the peaceniks to like him.

  123. 1500

    Hey Cynical explain to me again how developers lower the price of houses when they can shift the impact costs to property taxpayers. I never get tired of fairy tales!

  124. 1501

    121

    “Klake is one of those ‘Unless you knew better you would never know he was a Nazi Propaganda spewing racist asshole’!” Commentby Donnageddon— 3/21/06@ 11:59 pm

    Unless you read his posts, where it’s obvious after 3 or 4 words.

    P.S., Don — you forgot to say: “I hope the bed bugs bite!”

  126. 1503

    119

    “Not bad Roger but I bet you have seem worst wounds than that in your life time.” Commentby klake— 3/21/06@ 11:55 pm

    Yep, on the last guy who tried to pick me up by my ears.

  127. 1504

    MAILBAG ITEMS

    Here’s a couple items from the Seattle Times’ letters to the editor (Tuesday, March 21).

    From Thomas Beaudin of Mill Creek:

    “The disruptive, suicidal terrorist acts of a very, very small minority of Middle Easterners should not overshadow the astounding progress being made by the vast majority of the Iraqi people, thanks to American’s intervention. Saddam will be executed soon, our boys will be coming home soon, and mllions of innocents will experience liberty for the first time in centuries.”

    Roger Rabbit’s reply:

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

    Thomas, you oughta go on Jay Leno — you’re funny!

    From Robert Hoyden of Renton:

    “Let me get this straight: First President George Bush puts our Marines in that hell on Earth known as iraq against an enemy dressed like civilians and hiding behind children and other innocents. Then in a nightmarish firefight, several innocents die under these horrific conditions and now our Marines are being investigated for unlawful killings? This is truly unbelievable. Little wonder military enlistments are down. Join the Marines, go to war, and your president won’t stand behind ou. I can imagine the morale of our cherished trooops is at rock-bottom. I’m ashamed I voted for George Bush twice.”

    Roger Rabbit’s reply:

    Hell yeah, Robert, you SHOULD be ashamed you voted for George Bush twice.

    The killings are being investigated because the evidence indicates THERE WAS NO FIREFIGHT. Instead, it appears the Marines, angry at losing one of their men to a roadside bomb, forced entry into two nearby Iraqi homes and shot old people and children as young as 3 years old in their nightgowns, at point-blank range, splattering the walls and ceilings with blood and human tissue. A videotape of the scene shows NO bullet holes in the outside walls of these homes, but lots of bullet and shrapnel holes in the inside walls.

    According to witnesses, a 5-year-old was shot in the chest, a 4-year-old was shot in the chest and stomach, and a 3-year-old was shot in the chest, all at point-blank range, INSIDE THEIR OWN HOME. Hey Robert, is this what you call a “nightmarish firefight?”

    Robert, do yourself and our country a favor — quit voting. You’re too stupid to be a voter.

  128. 1505

    Finally, Bert Sacks of Seattle wrote to the Times:

    ” … the Lancet medical journal’s … most significant finding was that … four out of every five civilian deaths in Iraq were caused by ‘aerial weaponry.’ The insurgents do not have aerial weaponry. … And half of these deaths are children.”

    Hey Thomas — tell us again about the “astounding progress” being made in Iraq!!! You should quit voting, too. You’re too stupid to vote.

  130. 1507

    FOUR OUT OF EVERY FIVE CIVILIAN DEATHS IN IRAQ WERE CAUSED BY AERIAL WEAPONRY, AND HALF OF THESE DEATHS ARE CHILDREN.

  131. 1508

    When you wingnuts talk about “our” war in Iraq, please say “your” war in Iraq and leave us liberals out of it, because this is not America’s war, it’s the right wing’s war.

    This is your show, and you own it! The blood of innocents is on YOUR hands. Iraq is a Republican war, not an American war. It will go into the history books with the “Made in GOP” label on it.

    Let’s review: On November 19, 2005, U.S. Marines shot a 5-year-old, a 4-year-old, and a 3-year-old in their nightgowns at point-blank-range in their own homes. They also also shot old people, and a 40-year-old woman recovering from bladder surgery in her bed.

    And we have an indignant local Republican writing a letter to the local newspaper expressing outrage that anyone is investigating this incident for possible criminal prosecution of the Marines.

    Yeah, you Republicans ought to be ashamed of yourselves, but most of you are too stupid to know any better. You’re all going to Hell, because you’re evil people who have lived evil lives on this earth. And when you get there, you won’t have a clue why it’s so fucking hot and the air conditioner isn’t working.

  133. 1510

    In other news, a U.S. military court-martial found an Army dog-handler involved in the Abu Ghraib torture scandal guilty of six counts of detainee abuse. He is facing up to 8 1/2 years in prison. His response: “Soldiers aren’t supposed to be soft and cuddly.” His conviction includes one count of “indecent acts” for directing his dog to lick peanut butter off the genitals of a male detainee and off the breasts of a female detainee.

  134. 1511

    Hey, maybe he can get his cellmate to lick peanut butter off HIS balls! For a good time, call 1-800-GANGRAPE.

  135. 1512

    Poor excuse for a minister RevMan@100 very stupidly wrote:
    Why did Bush fly his business partners, the bin Ladens, out of the country the day after 9/11?

    Commentby Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anabaptist— 3/21/06@ 11:25 pm

    RevMan do you pay attention to threads? Or are you really horseless looselips in drag? Let me say it for the 7th time now on ASSes because your dildo in your ass (your words redirected at you) is interfereing with your brain cells down there:

    Richard Clarke, who served as President Bush’s chief of counterterrorism, has claimed sole responsibility for approving flights of Saudi Arabian citizens, including members of Osama bin Laden’s family, from the United States immediately after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

    In an interview with The Hill yesterday, Clarke said, “I take responsibility for it. I don’t think it was a mistake, and I’d do it again.”

    Most of the 26 passengers aboard one flight, which departed from the United States on Sept. 20, 2001, were relatives of Osama bin Laden, whom intelligence officials blamed for the attacks almost immediately after they happened.

    Clarke’s claim of responsibility is likely to put an end to a brewing political controversy on Capitol Hill over who approved the controversial flights of members of the Saudi elite at a time when the administration was preparing to detain dozens of Muslim-Americans and people with Muslim backgrounds as material witnesses to the attacks.”

    http://www.hillnews.com/news/052604/clarke.aspx

    Take the dildo out of the ASS RevMan. For the Clueless, the dildo in the ASS were RevMan’s own words. He hates Gays Boeing Bob. He writes gay slurs on ASSes. I asked him to clarify that but he hasn’t yet. He is now an Anabaptist when he used to be an Anababtist. I asked him about that too. Butt, since he likes rectally inserted dildoes, I wonder what his real agenga is…

    Librul ASSHeads, I will continue to post this about Richard Clarke as I will remind everyone here that Al Gore lost his home state Tennessee in 2000. If he won Tennessee he’d be president. But why did they reject their own?

  137. 1514

    Rabbit Pellet wrote: Wow! This thread already has over 100 posts! That’s more than Stefan’s sucky little blog gets in a month.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/21/06@ 11:42 pm

    Hey Pellet: Most people put sentences together in a paragraph. You spread a paragraph over six to 10 entries. Then you trump up how many entries per thread there are. You are your won best hornblower! Your armadillo has a horn that needs blowing!

  139. 1516

    ArtFart – LeTourneau went to jail because she kept going back to that kid for sex, time and again, and got caught several times. She was a dumb bitch, which is why she should have gone the slammer, but her sentence is atypical.

    My point is that there’s a great descrepancy between the punishment handed down to men versus the punishment handed down to women when it comes to having sex with kids. If you can’t see this, you must be living in a different universe. Men tend to get heavy jail time. (Except for in Vermont, where they’re scolded most severely and have to go without TV for a week!) Women tend to get a very light sentence or probation for sex crimes against kids.

  140. 1517

    Iraq is a deregulated Conservative paradise with all the things in place that neo-cons dream of. For them, the war is won and the deregulated government gravy-train never ends.

  141. 1518

    Hey, Puddybuddy, the problem with Raoger is that he has paranoid delusions and sometimes forgets to take his medicine. He’s a sick little bunny, so cut him some slack!

  142. 1519

    The only thing that’s really black about Puddybud is his CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVE HEART!!

  143. 1520

    Whoops! My bad – I misspelled “Roger” above. Sorry!

    Goldy, is there any chance of getting a spell checker in this thing?

  144. 1521

    According to Bush football teams lose because of weak cheerleading squads. Given his own athletic experience, I can see how he’d feel that way.

  145. 1522

    Why did Bush fly his business partners, the bin Ladens, out of the U.S. the day after 9/11. Was he afraid they’d be tortured and questioned?

  146. 1523

    re 135: I thought we went to war in Iraq because the President said all the terrorists were there, Puddy? Why would Bush fly the Saudi Arabians out.?

  147. 1524

    Dipshit RevMan: Bush didn’t fly them out. Are you just stupid or do you display your stupidity in the pulpit? What did Richard Clarke say. It was his decision jackASS. BTW, why won’t you answer my questions? You wrote it, now own up to it!

  150. 1527

    Continuing in ASSHead Pellet Mode: RevMan, why do you hate gays with your dildo up the ass comment?

  151. 1528

    Continuing in ASSHead Pellet Mode: RevMan, are you going to apologize to Boeing Bob and Windie for your insensitive comments about gays? They are on your side as brother ASSHeads. Oh, but their gay. So you do agree in Biblical principle with Pastor Hutcherson?

  154. 1531

    RevMan: I have to call PacMan as he’s working downtown. We plan to meet GBS at the appointed spot at the appointed time. He will see I am way blacker in spirit and skin than your sorry white librul ass!

  156. 1533

    Why did Bush fly the bin Ladens, his business partners, out of The U.S. the day after 9/11?

  157. 1534

    Why did Bush fly the bin Ladens, his business partners, out of The U.S. the day after 9/11?

    Commentby Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anabaptist— 3/22/06@ 9:20 am

    Sorry, but I don’t think Bush flew them out on September 12, 2001. They probably had plenty of aviation assets at their disposal to fly anywhere in the world they wanted to go. I don’t think Bush had anything to do with this one. They paid the freight themselves.

    Incidentally, did you know Osama bin Laden has a neice that has appeared on some TV shows, and apparently she’s not a strict Muslim since you can actually see what she looks like in a bikini!

  158. 1535

    re 157: All air travel was shut down after 9/11. Remember? They would need special permission to put an airplane aloft. That would be the one containing the bin Laden family, the Bush familiy’s business partner.

  159. 1536

    Great Thread Goldy!
    Roger Rabbit forgot to take his Prozac.
    I ask you KLOWNS to come up with your PLAN for Affordable Housing that goes beyond the feel-good blah, blah of saying “The Democrats are for Affordable Housing” (but we don’t have a fucking clue as to how to accomplish it…..and EVERYTHING we’ve done the past 21 years has made it WORSE!!).
    The response??? NONE!!
    This is precisely the legacy of the LEFT. Criticize, play Robin Hood, allege conspiracy theories and FEAR, FEAR, FEAR!!!!
    But ask the Dems, who are in Charge of the State, King KOUNTY and Seattle for a plan that includes an assessment of CONSEQUENCES and all they can do is spew anger.
    YOU ARE IN CHARGE KNUCKLEHEADS!!!!
    What are you doing?????
    Roger Rabbit is stuck in cynical mode like a broken record. Rog can talk around an issue…but never makes a cogent point about how to deal with it.
    Look at Transportation and Gridlock!!!
    The Dems in Washington are completely inept!
    More taxes down the gullet….and a small turd comes out the back-end!!
    Bang for the Buck???
    More like smoke-and-mirrors.
    We are talking about affordable housing in Washington State and the LEFTIST PINHEADS can only blame Bush.
    Inept, incompetent….you IDIOTS are in charge!!!!
    You can’t BLAME anyone but yourselves.
    Time’s a-wastin’!!

  160. 1537

    re 157: All air travel was shut down after 9/11. Remember? They would need special permission to put an airplane aloft. That would be the one containing the bin Laden family, the Bush familiy’s business partner.

    Commentby Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anabaptist— 3/22/06@ 10:10 am

    Yep, I remember the aviation being shut down, since a lot of airliners fly over my house on their way to Sea-Tac.

    I was under the impression you were saying Bush used Air Force planes (our planes) to fly these folk over to Saudi. Shoot, these people are rich enough to have a fleet of airliners and pilots at their disposal. They were leaving just like the Japanese diplomats left after December 7, 1941. They didn’t want to press their luck!

  162. 1539

    “Sorry, but I don’t think Bush flew them out on September 12, 2001. They probably had plenty of aviation assets at their disposal to fly anywhere in the world they wanted to go. I don’t think Bush had anything to do with this one. They paid the freight themselves.”

    Check your facts. What you think is contradicted by factual evidence. Who authorized the flights to be in the air while all other flights were grounded?

  163. 1540

    “They were leaving just like the Japanese diplomats left after December 7, 1941. They didn’t want to press their luck!”

    I guess they must have been psychic, having known somehow that 15 of th 19 alleged hijackers would turn out to be Saudis.

  164. 1541

    Dr E. Why do you all obfuscate over the item? Richard Clarke hates Condi, Dick Cheney and GWB. Did you read his “book”? He admitted in sworn testimony he ordered the Bin Ladens’ out and no one told him to. So if you don’t believe like RevMan, then how can you believe anything from his book including his so called “warnings to Condi” before 9/11? Either he is telling the truth or he is a patent liar!

    You libruls want to have it both ways; believe his book but not believe he ordered the Bin Ladens’ out!

    RevMan still won’t answer my questions?

  166. 1543

    Boeing Bob & WIndie: Ask RevMan why he hates gays? Ask him why he makes derogatory gay bashing comments?

  169. 1546

    The friendly skies were closed to ALL except a planeload of bin Ladens? And the Air Force did not shoot them down and Bush and Cheney knew nothing?

    Are you guys idiots?

  170. 1547

    Great Thread Goldy!
    Roger Rabbit forgot to take his Prozac.
    I ask you KLOWNS to come up with your PLAN for Affordable Housing that goes beyond the feel-good blah, blah of saying “The Democrats are for Affordable Housing” (but we don’t have a fucking clue as to how to accomplish it…..and EVERYTHING we’ve done the past 21 years has made it WORSE!!).
    The response??? NONE!!
    This is precisely the legacy of the LEFT. Criticize, play Robin Hood, allege conspiracy theories and FEAR, FEAR, FEAR!!!!
    But ask the Dems, who are in Charge of the State, King KOUNTY and Seattle for a plan that includes an assessment of CONSEQUENCES and all they can do is spew anger.
    YOU ARE IN CHARGE KNUCKLEHEADS!!!!
    What are you doing?????
    Roger Rabbit is stuck in cynical mode like a broken record. Rog can talk around an issue…but never makes a cogent point about how to deal with it.
    Look at Transportation and Gridlock!!!
    The Dems in Washington are completely inept!
    More taxes down the gullet….and a small turd comes out the back-end!!
    Bang for the Buck???
    More like smoke-and-mirrors.
    We are talking about affordable housing in Washington State and the LEFTIST PINHEADS can only blame Bush.
    Inept, incompetent….you IDIOTS are in charge!!!!
    You can’t BLAME anyone but yourselves.
    Time’s a-wastin’!!

  171. 1548

    We can blame any number of incompetent Republicans for our problems. Bush comes most easily to mind because he is the white pustulous head of the Republican boil on the body politic.

    BLAME BUSH!!! Why not? He’ll deny responsibility anyway!

  172. 1549

    On another thread horseless looselips wrote:

    Who flew the bin Laden family out of the U.S. after 9/11? Their business partners: the Bush family.

    Commentby headless lucy— 3/20/06@ 9:45 pm

    Now read this entry RevMan wrote:

    Why did Bush fly his business partners, the bin Ladens, out of the U.S. the day after 9/11?

    Commentby Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anabaptist— 3/22/06@ 8:16 am

    These post are too similar. I submit horseless looselips is the RevMan!

  173. 1550

    One way to make housing affordable would be to stop outsourcing all our jobs. Ask the geniuses at Boeing about this.

  175. 1552

    Horseloops Celery Ear said that Bush flew his business partners, the bin Ladens, the day after 9/11.

    WHY?

  176. 1553

    “One way to make housing affordable would be to stop outsourcing all our jobs. Ask the geniuses at Boeing about this.
    Commentby Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anabaptist— 3/22/06@ 11:05 am”

    You mean the geniuses at Boeing that your boy Gary Locke and his predecessors fucked with for 2 decades until they finally showed y’all that they are not a hostage to the Socialists???
    Then when it was clear Boeing COULD and WOULD leave, you IDIOTS recklessly opened the checkbook??
    Are those the “geniuses” you blame Rev.???
    Housing prices are about Supply and Demand, Taxes, Regulations & Fees and Cost of Living. You dry up & limit supply….prices escalate. If you try and OVER-regulate as is the Washington propensity AND piss away all the revenue on “planning and re-planning and re-re-planning” rather than actually BUILDING infrastructure, you get the current mess.
    Our Elected Officials have failed us all miserably in this State. What a clusterfuck.

  177. 1554

    Cynical: Socialist state politicians are resposible for outsourcing? When your red spittle flecked face dries, think about what you just said — you moron!

  178. 1555

    re 176: Building overpriced cheaply built crackerbox palaces is not “building infrastructure”.

    Clown.

  179. 1556

    WrongRev–
    I wouldn’t EVER expect you to understand how the free market works. The KLOWNS like you that run this State for years were convinced they could push business and investors around. Doesn’t work that way.
    The SOCIALIST KLOWNS forced Boeing and others to look at other sources to be cost competitive and profitable.
    I bought into Boeing in August of 2003 at around $38/share.
    Are you pissed Rev. because you sat around with your passbook savings account??
    You LEFTIST KLOWNS fail to understand risk-taking, risk & reward, or any fundamentals about investing capital.
    You have out on comment on the “injustice” of it all and hope the guv’mint will steal from the evil rich folks and give it to assholes like you.
    You are a real loooooooooooser Rev.
    As a Reverend, you realize that ENVY is a sin…don’t you???

  180. 1557

    The kind of “business” you are discussing is dependent on taxpayer dollars to survive and is a creature of the military/industrial complex — not the free market.

    Clown!

  182. 1559

    I believe the WrongRev is cut out of the Unabomber mold!!!
    Perhaps he is the WrongReverend of the Church of Bourgeois Bohemians and Luddites!!!

  183. 1560

    Puttybrains @137

    “Most people put sentences together in a paragraph. You spread a paragraph over six to 10 entries. Then you trump up how many entries per thread there are.”

    So? If you don’t like it, go to Sucky Politics. I’m sure Stefan could use the traffic.

    “You are your won best hornblower!”

    Why not? Why should Republicans have a monopoly on self-admiration? Republicans want a monopoly on every fucking thing!

  184. 1561

    141

    “Raoger … has paranoid delusions:”

    The fact I’m paranoid doesn’t mean you right-wing bastards aren’t out to get me.

  185. 1562

    143

    “Goldy, is there any chance of getting a spell checker in this thing? Commentby Sigmund Freud— 3/22/06@ 8:13 am”

    Try using a dictionary.

  186. 1563

    147

    Oh, okay, the President of the United States didn’t know an underling authorized flying the bin Ladens out of the U.S. when every other non-military aircraft in the country was grounded. Whatever. You’d think POTUS would know what’s going on in his own fucking country, buuut … whatever.

  187. 1564

    157

    “They probably had plenty of aviation assets at their disposal to fly anywhere in the world they wanted to go. I don’t think Bush had anything to do with this one.” Commentby Yossarian— 3/22/06@ 10:06 am

    Hey dumbshit, all aircraft were GROUNDED, remember? The only planes authorized to fly that day were Air Force One, military jets — and the bin Laden’s flight out of the U.S. You bet your ass that flight was authorized at the highest levels of the U.S. government.

  188. 1565

    Nah, you don’t remember. Paying attention to the news is something wingnuts avoid, so they won’t clutter their brains with facts.

  189. 1566

    170

    “I ask you KLOWNS to come up with your PLAN for Affordable Housing that goes beyond the feel-good blah, blah of saying “The Democrats are for Affordable Housing”

    Hey Cynical, please explain to me again how developers lower their prices below what the market will bear when they can built cheap unregulated crap and shift impact costs to property taxpayers. I want to know how that works. While you at it, would you please also explain how your washing machine converts L & I taxes to Rossi Slush Funds simply by feeding $100 bills through rollers. I want to know what’s inside the rollers! You have the most amazing black boxes!

  190. 1567

    176

    “You mean the geniuses at Boeing that your boy Gary Locke and his predecessors fucked with for 2 decades”

    Hey Cynical, you’re right, Gary Locke fucked with Boeing when he paid Boeing $3 billion of extortion money (furnished by taxpayers) to keep them from leaving Washington (which they apparently weren’t going to do anyway).

  191. 1568

    Why are wingers like Mr. C such fucking liars? Were their mothers all prostitutes and drug dealers?

  193. 1570

    Although you have to wonder whether somebody who can turn L & I taxes into Rossi Slush Funds simply by turning a crank is “stupid.” Moronic, maybe, but Mr. C inarguably is clever enough to run a “washing machine.”

  194. 1571

    163

    ““They were leaving just like the Japanese diplomats left after December 7, 1941. They didn’t want to press their luck!”

    “I guess they must have been psychic, having known somehow that 15 of th 19 alleged hijackers would turn out to be Saudis.”

    Being psychic, they probably also figured the “bin Laden” family name wasn’t a real good commodity in the U.S. market just then.

  195. 1572

    Wow! This thread is almost up to 200 posts already! That’s more than Stefan’s pathetic little blog gets in a year.

  196. 1573

    Roger,

    You’re one of my favorite fucking assholes to poke fun at in this blog. You provide good entertainment at no cost.

  197. 1574

    Hay duke: Rabbit Pellet posted 12 in a row (a nominally low value for him) Where is your hue and cry? Oh he’s a librul so he gets a pass!

  198. 1575

    The problem with people like RevMan is their frame of reference. When confronted by other libruls who say other things they are rejected out of hand like nwgal who posted some interesting observations two weeks ago. Fruitcakes like Tree Frog Farmer told her to shut up. Idiots like drivel to her to go away. The librul mindset is imploding. When they can’t have a decent conversation amongst themselves discussing the voting record of Maria CantVoteWell and the public discourse denigrates to name calling you know the liberal policies are still in disarray!

  199. 1576

    Sin icle = stuge for the flim flam men

    The proposal to eliminate impact fees on new houses has NOTHING to do with lowering the cast of a home and EVERYTHING to do with making it easier for the new home builders to compete with the existing home resale market.

    And as SinFlam knows all too well, the resale of an existing home does not have an effect on infrastructure while new homes have a real and direct effect. And you must think people are really stupid if you think we buy for a moment that with the fees removed the price would go down. Not on your life dipshit.

    This is exactly the kind of capitalist meets corruption policy we could have expected if the flinstones dog had been elected gov. We are all so much better off without that sleezeball.

  202. 1579

    Sorry. That should have been longer…

    King County vis-a-vis afffordable housing

    http://www.metrokc.gov/dchs/CSD/Housing/Index.htm

    http://www.metrokc.gov/dchs/CS.....lpFind.htm

    http://www.metrokc.gov/dchs/CS.....stTime.htm

    http://www.metrokc.gov/dchs/CSD/Housing/Repair.htm

    http://www.metrokc.gov/dchs/CS.....aivers.htm

    http://www.metrokc.gov/dchs/CS.....meless.htm

    http://www.metrokc.gov/dchs/CS.....inance.htm

    http://www.metrokc.gov/dchs/CS.....rdable.htm

    There’s more, but that should give you an idea. Of course, if your only metric for affordable housing is “make sure BIAW members make more money” then perhaps the “solutions” might look different.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. I’ll be there, knocking back a couple of pints of Manny’s, and recording the latest edition of Podcasting Liberally.

And don’t forget, the Tri-Cities chapter of DL, also meets Tuesdays from 5:30 onwards, Tuscany Lounge, 1515 George Washington Way, Richland. Ask Jimmy for more info.

Comments

  4. 1583

    My guess is the next time Jimmy shows up at your weekly fruitcake mixer is Drag Queen Night. That would be every night.

  5. 1584

    From my “Best of Moonbats” collection:

    …it’s just that the reality is vaginas make us men .
    Comment by GBS— 12/29/05 @ 5:44 pm

    …vaginas do indeed make us men.
    Comment by Donnageddon— 12/29/05 @ 5:55 pm

    …how big a capacitator do we need to shoot MTR into orbit with a flashlight battery?
    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/12/06@ 3:42 pm

    Government exists to make private wealth possible.
    Commentby Belltowner— 3/12/06@ 4:15 pm

  6. 1585

    1

    That’s right — Roger Rabbit won’t be there — the FBI agents might have something contagious.

  7. 1586

    DL turnout has gone up dramatically since the FBI starting showing up. You can tell who those guys are — they’re the ones who throw in a $1 bill for the pizza tab.

  8. 1587

    They also look very bored, wear black oxford shoes, and don’t talk to anybody. They’re anti-social. Spying on Bush’s political opponents is a punishment detail — the agents who get that duty fucked up and pissed over their bosses.

  9. 1588

    Mark the Redneck, Yossarian, and Cynical won’t be there either — the chickenshits.

  10. 1589

    1

    Anyway, I’m busy tonight. With this warmer weather, the grass is growing faster here in Green Lake Park, and I’ve got a lot of eating to do.

  12. 1591

    Roger Rabbit has posted 58.3% of the comments on this thread. If you don’t like it, why don’t you hit on one of those FBI spooks. Gender is not an issue.

  15. 1594

    BREAKING NEWS — V.D. SKYROCKETS IN MT.

    King 5 TV reports the gonorrhea has increased 113% in Montana. It must be spring, the yahoos are coming out of their cabins. The veterinarians will be busy. Poor sheep.

  19. 1598

    Hey Goldy – You’re doing a little better tonight… as I write this, there are 167 comments on the 4 topics posted today. But only 61 of the comments (36%) are on your “serious hard hitting” posts of Flip and Hell, and 106 (64%)of them are on the Open and DL posts.

    So you think you’re some kind of game changing hot shit of the new media, but the overwhelming majority of traffic you get has nothing to do with your hard hitting investigative posts.

    But don’t feel bad… last night at this time 87% of the comments ignored your foolish diatriabe against initiatives.

  22. 1601

    Rufus and MTR: You’ll have to go over to uSP if you want to stir up the rubes. It ain’t gonna happen here.

  25. 1604

    JCH I GUESS GBS THINKS IM A BROWN NOSER. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A WARRANT THAT DID NOT TELL IT LIKE IT IS.HAVING SAID THAT HERE IS WHAT WE KNOW GBS ENFN.BOOTED FROM THE NAVY.HIS SHIP WAS THE USS NEVERSAIL WELDED TO THE PIER LIKE THE USS VULCAN.AND HE IS A WOG CAN YOU BEAT THAT.I ASKED HIM WHAT HIS DD214 HAD FOR A RE CODE NOT A WORD ON ANY OF THESE.SO EVERYONE CAN SEE HE LIKES TO DISH IT OUT BUT CANT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.THATS BECAUSE HE IS A TOTAL FUCK UP WHO ONLY HAS HA AS HIS OUTLET,THOUGHT HE KNEW ABOUT THE NAVY BUT IT TURNS OUT HE IS A FUCKIN LOOOOOOOOOOOOSER.

  26. 1605

    GBS@3 ONLY YOU WOULD WANT TO KNOW WHEN SOME GUY WAS COMMING.MAYBE YOU DID NOT HIT AN OFFICER AND GOT BOOTED FOR AN OTHER REASON.

  27. 1606

    Interesting.

    “liberals can dish it out but can’t take it.” Comment by RUFUS — 3/14/06 @ 10:02 pm

    “EVERYONE CAN SEE HE LIKES TO DISH IT OUT BUT CANT ANSWER” Comment by DAWO — 3/14/06 @ 10:57 pm

    My, oh my, boys, you seem to be reading from the same RNC “Phrases To Use” manual.

    Good job, morons!

  28. 1607

    23

    Why would you waste your time and mine with such a mindless post —- go beat off – and call back. Cound not be more boring.

    Get a life

  29. 1608

    Can you say: “The rubes are over at uSP?”

    I knew you could.

    or ( you’ll love this one ) What piece of Muslim Literature do they like over at uSP?

    The ,”Rube” Ayat , of course.

  31. 1610

    DAMNED COMMIE ENVIRONMENTALISTS!

    Background: James Pflueger is a retired Honda dealer turned developer who owns property on the Hawaiian island of Kaua’i who has gotten in trouble with authorities for, among other things, unauthorized grading on state property and damaging coral reefs. The kind of guy BIAW loves!!!

    November 2002: “EPA Issues Another Enforcement Order Against Pflueger on Kaua’i”

    “SAN FRANCISCO The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency today ordered James Pflueger and Pflueger Properties to stop illegal discharges of polluted stormwater into streams and the ocean that resulted from improper grading operations at a construction site near Kaloko Reservoir on Kaua’i.” For EPA’s complete press release, see http://yosemite.epa.gov/r9/r9p.....enDocument

    August 2003: “At Pila’a, Kaua’i, A Reshaped Landscape Sparks Litigation”

    “‘Whatever I did with that property was my business. I didn’t ask if I could cut a tree down.’ So stated James Pflueger in a February 2003 deposition …. Back when he was ‘beautifying’ his property (doing far more than cutting trees), Pflueger’s authority over the land, at least to him, seemed without question. …

    “Pflueger’s tenure on the land first attracted notoriety in 2000, when a mile-long berm up to 15 feet high was built … after a massive landslide in November 2001, the result of excessive grading and a heavy rain … the area has become a focal point of lawsuits, criminal investigation and media attention.” For complete article, see http://www.environment-hawaii....../803at.htm

    November 2003: “Pflueger Contested Case Overshadows Additional Problems At Pila’a Sites”

    “Late last month, hearing officer Mike Gibson convened the first hearing of the Pflueger-Pila’a contested case, centering on a proposed multi-million dollar fine for damages to the reef off the North Shore of Kaua’i allegedly caused by unauthorized grading. … Pflueger and his companies are accused of damaging or killing at least 5,830 square feet of coral after a November 2001 storm washed tons of mud from Pflueger’s heavily graded property into the ocean. … Pflueger’s attorneys have been mediating for more than a year with county, state, federal, and non-profit agencies with a stake in violations stemming from work done by the Pflueger companies at Pila’a and a mauka area known as Kaloko.” For complete article, see http://www.environment-hawaii......lueger.htm

    March 14, 2006: “One Dead, Seven Missing After Dam Bursts in Hawaii”

    “KILAUEA, Hawaii (March 15) – An earthen dam burst on the Hawaiian island of Kauai on Tuesday, sweeping away at least two houses and washing out the only road along the island’s north shore. One person was killed and as many as seven others were reported missing.

    “The Kaloko Reservoir dam gave way without warning after days of heavy rain, cutting off access to thousands of rural houses and luxury condominiums. …

    “State officials were assessing the safety of other dams in the Kauai hills, which are dotted with private earthen dams such as the one that broke open.” For complete story, see http://articles.news.aol.com/n.....8;cid=2194

  35. 1614

    But Kent, WA is over a thousand miles from Hawaii. No way the landslide could have killed JCH.

  38. 1617

    DAMNED COMMIE ENVIRONMENTALISTS!

    Marine biologists report massive die-offs of coral beds in Australia’s Great Barrier Reef:

    “By Michael Perry, Reuters

    “SYDNEY (March 14) – When marine scientist Ray Berkelmans went diving at Australia’s Great Barrier Reef earlier this year, what he discovered shocked him — a graveyard of coral stretching as far as he could see. …

    “Bleaching is due to higher than average water temperatures, triggered mainly by global warming, scientists say. … Many scientists say global temperatures are rising because fossil fuel emissions from cars, industry and other sources are trapping the earth’s heat. Experts worry some coral reefs could be wiped out by the end of the century.

    “Global warming could also damage corals by raising world sea levels by up to a meter by 2100. That could result in less light reaching deeper corals, threatening the important algae.

    “The Great Barrier Reef — the world’s largest living reef formation stretching 1,250 miles north to south along Australia’s northeast coast — was the first to experience what turned out to be global coral bleaching in 1998 and 2002.”

    For complete story, see http://articles.news.aol.com/n.....8;cid=2194

    Well who the fuck cares?! If you can’t make money off it, who needs it?!! Screw coral! Power plants … now that’s what we REALLY need more of! Smoke-belching, acid-rain spewing, money-making POWER PLANTS!!!!

    The above pro-development message is brought to you by the environmentally conscious folks at the RNC, Evergreen Freedom Foundation, BIAW, and Stefan’s sucky little blog.

  39. 1618

    Besides, we won’t need Planet Earth much longer, because the Rapture is coming soon. If it doesn’t arrive on schedule, the righties who now control our government will help it get here by pushing the nuclear trigger! The planet is doomed anyway, so why worry about saving it. Those damned commie environmentalists just want to keep Republicans from making money.

  40. 1619

    Roger Rabbit sez:

    Not to worry! Ma Nature will take care of things. There’s no problem here that can’t be fixed by the extinction of one species.

  41. 1620

    Roger Rabbit “There’s no problem here that can’t be fixed by the extinction of one species.”

    Now THAT is funny.

    And sadly true.

    Bumper stickers will be issued.

  42. 1621

    DAMNED COMMIE ENVIRONMENTALISTS!

    Retired Hawaiian auto dealer, developer, and freedom fighter James Pflueger was fined $500,000 but given no jail time by a Hawaiian court last year for violating environmental laws and land use regulations.

    Last week, he settled a lawsuit by neighboring property owners and environmental groups for $7.8 million, bringing his out of pocket costs for despoiling a section of the small Hawaiian island located less than a mile from a wildlife refuge to over $12 million. Hey — easy come, easy go!

    According to the Honolulu Star Bulletin, “The secluded area on the northeast coast of Kauai is less then a mile from the Kilauea Point National Wildlife Refuge and was the site of pristine coral reefs with some colonies more than 100 years old.

    ” … The settlement is the largest storm-water settlement in the country for violations at a single site by a single landowner, said Wayne Nastri, regional administrator for the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, which enforces the Clean Water Act. The costs announced yesterday are in addition to state fines of $4 million for environmental damage, state criminal penalties of $500,000 and Kauai County fines of $3,075.

    “All the costs are in connection with illegal grading and earthwork at Pflueger’s 378-acre property that caused a Thanksgiving weekend 2001 mudslide which damaged nearby Pilaa beach and reef.”

    For complete story, see http://starbulletin.com/2006/0.....ory05.html

  43. 1622

    I wonder if Pflueger had his fingers in the dike, so to speak, in tonight’s dam rupture that left 1 person dead, 6 missing, a state highway washed away, and thousands of homes without power or road access? If he did, he may have to sell some more cars.

  44. 1623

    41

    Don’t worry, Donageddon, there may be hope! Maybe these wingers are dumb enough to build their mansions BELOW their shoddy earthen dams! You know, “See, folks? There’s nothing to worry about! This dam is perfectly sound for the next 1,000 years! I have so much confidence in it, I built MY house right below it! Now, would I do that if I was worried?!!!”

  46. 1625

    And most of us really have no idea how bad the RepubliCONS have handled their fiscal responsiblities:

    The Republicans have squandered the huge budget surplus they inherited by spending not just on guns and butter but on guns, butter, and tax cuts. Because of government obfuscation, most Americans don’t realize the deep fiscal hole we’re in—and the fact that we’re still busy digging. As David Walker, the head of the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office, pointed out, “The federal government’s obligations, current liabilities, and unfunded fiscal commitments are over $43 trillion and rising. . . . Yes, that’s trillions with 12 zeros rather than billions with nine zeros.”

    The estimated net worth of American families is slightly over $47 trillion, and nearly all of it—90 per-cent—would be needed to cover government’s current obligations. And don’t think we can grow our way out of this hole. According to the GAO, it would take real double-digit growth over the next 75 years to pay off our current debt–an impossible task, considering that the growth rate during the 1990s boom years averaged just 3.2 percent.

    Keep sticking your heads in the sand wingnuts. Too bad that ‘sand’ can’t be in downtown Baghdad….

    http://www.usnews.com/usnews/b.....21edit.htm

  47. 1626

    Mr. Cynical is working for his own and his immediate family members’ eternal souls. He took the BIG VIEW on this one and included his family.

  48. 1627

    regarding Free sex change operations

    Will you be discssing whether “health insurance” is really insurance or just free? That is, if you use insurance to get a sex change….what malady does that represent? Don’t you buy insurance to be taken care of when a dire need arises?

  49. 1628

    “State officials were assessing the safety of other dams in the Kauai hills, which are dotted with private earthen dams such as the one that broke open.” For complete story, see http://articles.news.aol.com/n.....8;cid=2194

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/14/06@ 11:39 pm

    Any chance JCH was killed?

    Commentby Donnageddon— 3/14/06@ 11:50 pm Don et al parasite loser liberals…….Wrong island, dip shits!! Kauai is no the island of Hawaii!! [also called the Big Island] And here I am in western Pennsylvania. Rain, and more rain! Sorry, Fireman GBS!! I’m alive and well, and need to “axe” you [a little black ebonics Democrat humor] about your “less than honorable” discharge.

  50. 1629

    49…..cont………not Anonymous, but JCH!!!…….OK, GBS has posted 47 times about JCH in the last 6 days. Goldy, Is that a little sick or what???? Can you help him get a life????????????

  51. 1630

    Don, RR, and GBS, Why do you posts about the USA and Bush sound like Sadaam at his trial???? Are you really Muslims?? Do you wear towels on your heads?? Are you the enemy? Maybe you need you “sensor” Bush like Sen Rush FineJew [D-Madison, Moscow West, WIS]?

  52. 1631

    How many black Democrats does it take to slash tires on voting day in Milwaukee, WIS??

  53. 1632

    Mark the Redneck, Yossarian, and Cynical won’t be there either – the chickenshits.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/14/06@ 5:16 pm
    …………..
    Roger, have you ever been to this event? As long as I’ve been reading this blog, you’ve always posted that same old crap about how you won’t be in attendance.

    I don’t go because I live over 30 miles away, and I have a neighborhood tavern nearby, The Beach Tavern in Tacoma. (It’s at the very end of 6th Avenue, just before the railroad tracks.) So, if not going to an event 30 miles away to listen to some folks (who’d prefer I didn’t come there) makes me a chickenshit, I don’t care.

    But you live near Green Lake – a heck of a lot closer to DL than me. Since you don’t go, you are you a chickenshit.

  54. 1633

    Perhaps all posts on HS should be in ebonics. That way many of the liberal posters can read them!!!!

  55. 1634

    Detroit, MI.population: 800,000……..Delivers 900,000 Democrat votes to Kerry in 04. Typical!!! Any questions?? Well, like Milwaukee, Phiily, Gary, and East St. Louis…… ALL questions on this subject are racist!!!!!

  57. 1636

    All votes must count..even the votes mailed in by the thousands from Harare, Zimbabwe!!!!

  58. 1637

    Democrat purchased voting machines in Democrat controlled districts maintained by Democrat “guvment” workers are racist and stole the 00 election from Gore!!!

  59. 1638

    Roger and Gang it looks like our media lost it touch in reporting news but making it instead.

    http://www.nypost.com/postopin...../64677.htm
    DUDE, WHERE’S MY CIVIL WAR?
    By RALPH PETERS – In Iraq
    BAGHDAD
    I’M trying. I’ve been trying all week. The other day, I drove another 30 miles or so on the streets and alleys of Baghdad. I’m looking for the civil war that The New York Times declared. And I just can’t find it.
    Maybe actually being on the ground in Iraq prevents me from seeing it. Perhaps the view’s clearer from Manhattan. It could be that my background as an intelligence officer didn’t give me the right skills.
    And riding around with the U.S. Army, looking at things first-hand, is certainly a technique to which The New York Times wouldn’t stoop in such an hour of crisis.
    Let me tell you what I saw anyway. Rolling with the “instant Infantry” gunners of the 1st Platoon of Bravo Battery, 4-320 Field Artillery, I saw children and teenagers in a Shia slum jumping up and down and cheering our troops as they drove by. Cheering our troops.
    All day – and it was a long day – we drove through Shia and Sunni neighborhoods. Everywhere, the reception was warm. No violence. None.
    And no hostility toward our troops. Iraqis went out of their way to tell us we were welcome.
    Instead of a civil war, something very different happened because of the bombing of the Golden Mosque in Samarra. The fanatic attempt to stir up Sunni-vs.-Shia strife, and the subsequent spate of violent attacks, caused popular support for the U.S. presence to spike upward.

  61. 1640

    Too bad some of the cowardly inbred righties are afraid to show their faces at a DL party. Of course, then they’d have to be in the position of putting up or shutting up and as cowards, they surely have never put up anything other than big mouths.

  62. 1641

    DA WOOOOOOO @ 25:

    I don’t think you’re a brown-noser, I know you are by the way you stick you nose up JCH’s ass. God know what else you guys have been sticking in each others anal orfices.

    Do your homework, DA WOOOO, I’ve already posted one of the ships I’ve sailed on.

    Also, since your a conservative, and stupid one at that, show where I’ve ever said I was discharged on bad paper. Never. Have I been to Capt’s Mast? You bet. Was is it for striking an officer? Yes, it was. Even though it was some Jarhead.

    Jarheads are far and away better men than JCH. He said so in his own words.

    You, DA WO, are such a moron you prove it every time you post. Like I said before, when you can earn my respect, I’ll answer your questions.

    Brown-noser.

  63. 1642

    JCH:

    I love it when I come to this blog and see that you’re reduced to posting inane comments that no one gives a rat’s ass about.

    You were caught out and out lying. Everyone here knows it. Why is it you never address the reasons for which you lied about your military service?

    Which reminds me, time for the daily story of “How to catch a conservative lying.”

    Enjoy.

    How to catch a Conservative in the act of lying:

    Note the date/time stamps.

    http://www.horsesass.org/index.php?p=1332

    108, Libertarian, I never attended flight school. Hence, I never “washed out”. All a figment of GBS’s vivid “imagination”. All my training was done in Newport, RI and Coronado, Ca, as well as the old Philadelphia Ship Yard. Then, three WESTPACs of 6 monthe each , one ten month IO cruise, and a tour in Coronado at the NAB. Four years at sea, and two ashore.

    Comment by Myron [JCH] Silverstein, ESQ— 2/24/06 @ 3:04 pm

    @ 123

    JCH: Are you saying GWB served in combat then? Just askin’
    Comment by windie — 1/24/06 @ 3:59 pm [No, but, Windie, have YOU ever “buckled up” in a Mach 2 F-106? Not for pussies. I washed out of Naval Air [bad GI] and served Surface Line [1110]. Flying [and training] in military jets are not for the Bill Clintons of the world.]
    Comment by JCH — 1/24/06 @ 4:37 pm

    @ 125

    FLY NAVY
    DA WO

    Comment by YO — 1/24/06 @ 3:59 pm [YO, I’m sure you are correct and I was mistaken. Thanks for the help. Anyone who flies has my respect. I was not up to the stress. Not many are. JCH, LT, USN [1110, 76-84]]

    Comment by JCH — 1/24/06 @ 4:44 pm

    @ 152

    JCH:

    I served a short stint on the “mini-twat” USS Manitowoc County LST 1180. Hated the Marines, they seemed to have nothing to do but PT and wait in line for chow. The bastards.

    Comment by GBS — 1/24/06 @ 5:43 pm [True, but once ashore, they are the best. I couldn’t do what they do. Did you know Hillary said she tried to join the Marines? Roger Rabbit believes her!! He believes anyone who will ensure his “guvment” check comes every month.]

    Comment by JCH — 1/24/06 @ 6:10 pm

    @ 126

    The last little dig there is just to back up what I was saying all along, JCH admitted that the fucking Jar Heads were better than him.

    NO self respecting sailor makes a fucking statement like that.

  64. 1643

    DA WO:

    I know you’re a fucking idiot, so read my post carefully at 63, you’ll see one of the ships I sailed on.

    Sometimes you just have to point out the obvious to morons like you.

    Dick suck.

  65. 1644

    DA WO:

    Do you agree with your “war hero” JCH about jarheads being better than you?

    Are jarheads really the best?

    Are you of the belief that you CAN’T do what they do?

    Are you a PUSSY, too, like JCH?

    Brown-noser.

  66. 1645

    JCH:

    For once in your miserable, failed, lying life, please tell us why you lied about your military service.

  67. 1646

    Righties: The RUBES are over at uSP. You need to join your people. Your out of your league here. Do yourselves a favor and just shut up.

  68. 1647

    GBS, After 52 posts [52!!!!!!]from you concerning JCH [a little sick and perverted], I will throw you a small bone. Midshipman Naval Air Intro, 2 months [Sr yr], Not good. Blew the mask twice. In addition, I also did not enjoy the Midshipman Sub Intro [2 months]. Not my first choice. So,……it was 1110, Surface Line for me. Too bad, GBS!! I know you wanted more!! Now, about your “less than honorable” discharge………………….Tell us!! Tell us how after years in the US Navy, you ended up an E-3. Or don’t, as only a loser pulls Captain’s Mast for fucked up bull shit.

  69. 1648

    DD-214, GBS!!!!!!!!! Your Captain’s Mast was in your file and was noted in your DD-214!!!! Throw me a bone!!! Tell me about being busted to Fireman!! You hate Marines……You hate officers…….You hated youe Captain……GBS, Isn’t the problem that you really hate yourself??? Isn’t time to shove your 9mm up your throat?? End it all, GBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  71. 1650

    48

    Health “insurance” isn’t insurance, it’s pre-paid health care. The term “insurance” is a misnomer because our health “insurance” system no longer operates on insurance principles.

  72. 1651

    51

    “Don, RR, and GBS, Why do you posts about the USA and Bush sound like Sadaam at his trial????”

    Because he behaves like Saddam, but that’s probably too complicated for a peabrain like you to understand.

  73. 1652

    52

    “How many black Democrats does it take to slash tires on voting day in Milwaukee, WIS?? Commentby GBS\’s Wet Dream [JCH]— 3/15/06@ 7:55 am”

    too bad they didn’t slash throats inside — hey, just kidding — wait, no i’m not — no, wait, it’s a joke — wait, … ahhhh … go ask Ann Coulter if i’m kidding!

  74. 1653

    tires, after all, are innocent … a tire isn’t Republican or Democrat … a tire can’t be a Nazi … a tire is just a tire … the tire didn’t do anything …

  75. 1654

    53

    “Roger, have you ever been to this event? Commentby Yossarian— 3/15/06@ 7:56 am”

    What business is that of yours? Why should you care?

  76. 1655

    Hey Yooooooo … a while ago, prr said “I’ll be there” — for the purpose of confronting Roger Rabbit, impliedly in some sort of physical fashion. Well, I showed up, but “I’ll be there” … um … wasn’t there. I’ve never seen Cynical there, either, even though he talks about attending. Now tell me again who the “chickenshit” is … ????

  77. 1656

    Don’t ya just love the creativity of the bullshit these wingers come up with? Wonder who writes their material for them? They’re not smart enough to think of it themselves.

  78. 1657

    58

    “Commentby Voter Fraud Expert JCH— 3/15/06@ 8:03 am”

    If you edit two words, it would be accurate. Try this:

    “Comment by Fraud JCH— 3/15/06@ 8:03 am”

  79. 1658

    Flaky Klake @59

    “my background as an intelligence officer”

    Oh, that explains everything!

  80. 1659

    For those of you who haven’t been in the military, there’s an old Army joke that goes like this:

    “Military intelligence is an oxymoron.”

    The corollary of this, of course, is:

    “Intelligence officers are morons.”

  81. 1660

    62

    “Have I been to Capt’s Mast? You bet. Was is it for striking an officer? Yes, it was. Even though it was some Jarhead.”

    I’m glad somebody who served in our military had some sense.

  82. 1661

    You didn’t hit JCH by any chance, did you? Naw … couldn’t have been JCH. He doesn’t have the cajones to be in the Marines. Might get shot or something. Paperwork duty is safer.

  85. 1664

    67

    “Do yourselves a favor and just shut up. Commentby clay shaw— 3/15/06@ 10:25 am”

    Clay — shush! — we don’t WANT them to shut up!!! Because (a) they’re funny, and (b) every time they post something they embarrass Bush, the GOP, themselves, and the whole neoCON crowd!!! We want them to KEEP POSTING and CONTINUE EMBARRASSING THEMSELVES!!!

  86. 1665

    68

    So fucking what??? I knew a guy who got promoted from E-3 to Captain in 4 days and nights of fighting in Vietnam, was awarded the DSC (you don’t know what that is, it’s way out of your league), and got busted to sergeant for slugging a general. In this case, punching out the general wasn’t an offense, it was a public service.

  87. 1666

    He probably would have gone to Leavenworth if he didn’t have that DSC, but they didn’t really want to court-martial a war hero, so they just took away his commission, kicked him out of active duty, and sent him to the reserves. Which doesn’t change the fact the general threw the first punch.

  88. 1667

    His company took 90% casualties in 4 days and 4 nights of nonstop combat; after all the officers and sergeants were killed, as an E-3 he was the highest ranking individual left, so he took over command and saved what was left of the company! He was promoted to captain on the spot, commanded a company for the rest of his Nam tour, and was considered for the MOH.

  89. 1668

    89

    Honor, valor, duty … these things aren’t measured by who you punch in a bar fight, they’re gauged by what you do on a battlefield in extremis … but a latrine scrubber like JCH wouldn’t understand this concept or know anything about these things.

  90. 1669

    And then there was the guy in my outfit who DID get the MOH for his valor … but that’s a different story.

  91. 1670

    76

    At least the FBI has enough guts to show up for DL, which is more than you can say for any of these trollfucks. “I’ll be there” even said his lawyer wouldn’t show up! Cripes, the guy hides behind a lawyer’s skirt, and doesn’t even have the balls to send his lawyer … wingnuts are all hat, no cattle. They puff their chests out and cackle a lot, but when you get right down to it, they’re chickens.

  92. 1671

    What business is that of yours? Why should you care?

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/15/06@ 12:49 pm

    Well, Roger, if I’m supposed to be labled a chickenshit for not showing up (along with those other guys you called chickenshit earlier) at DL last evening, and YOU DON’T GO to DL either, then you’re a chickenshit, too. That’s why it’s my business, and that’s why I care. If you’re going to call me a chickenshit for not doing something, and you don’t do this same activity,you’re a chickenshit by your own definition.

    As for the other guys, I could care less whether you call them chickenshit or not. Just don’t lump me in with those guys. I know none of them.

  93. 1672

    Yossarian–
    Actually Roger is smart enough to not waste a whole night sipping cordials with a bunch of assholes playing grabass with each other!!

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. I’ll be there, knocking back a couple of pints of Manny’s, and recording the latest edition of Podcasting Liberally.

Oh… and if you happen to be on the other side of the mountains, please join Jimmy at the Tri-Cities chapter of DL, every Tuesday from 5:30 onwards, Tuscany Lounge, 1515 George Washington Way, Richland.

Comments

  1. 1675

    Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL due to traffic problems caused by the crush of admiring fans, papparazzi, process servers, bail bondsmen, and Bush’s secret police.

  2. 1676

    Fuck Bush’s KGB! Un-American bastards. Constitution-hating traitors! They should all be jailed. They can be JCH’s prison bitch …

  3. 1677

    Roger Rabbit won’t be there, but not for the reason he posted above. This morning, after he finished his morning BM in Stefan’s garden, he reached for the Preparation-H to soothe his ‘rhoids. Unfortunately for the bunny, he grabbed a tube of Ben-Gay instead of the hemmorhoid cream.

    He took off like, well, a jack rabbit, and we think he’s still running, somewhere in Western Montanna.

  4. 1678

    Soooo, uh, Roger Rabbit, tell us how you really feel. BTW, are you happy about the gestapo in the (un)Patriot Act?

    Oh, and don’t try to horde in on my Blog Bitch, JCH. He can’t have a prison bitch unless tell him that he can. He can’t be anyone elses Blog Bitch unless I tell him he can. However, anyone else who wants to abuse JCH as their personal Blog Bitch has my blessing.

    Did I mention I busted JCH lying about his military service?

  5. 1679

    Yeah, I did bust JCH lying. Here it is: AGAIN.

    I love doing this shit to liars.

    How to catch a Conservative in the act of lying:

    Note the date/time stamps.

    http://www.horsesass.org/index.php?p=1332

    108, Libertarian, I never attended flight school. Hence, I never “washed out”. All a figment of GBS’s vivid “imagination”. All my training was done in Newport, RI and Coronado, Ca, as well as the old Philadelphia Ship Yard. Then, three WESTPACs of 6 monthe each , one ten month IO cruise, and a tour in Coronado at the NAB. Four years at sea, and two ashore.

    Comment by Myron [JCH] Silverstein, ESQ— 2/24/06 @ 3:04 pm

    @ 123

    JCH: Are you saying GWB served in combat then? Just askin’
    Comment by windie — 1/24/06 @ 3:59 pm [No, but, Windie, have YOU ever “buckled up” in a Mach 2 F-106? Not for pussies. I washed out of Naval Air [bad GI] and served Surface Line [1110]. Flying [and training] in military jets are not for the Bill Clintons of the world.]
    Comment by JCH — 1/24/06 @ 4:37 pm

    @ 125

    FLY NAVY
    DA WO

    Comment by YO — 1/24/06 @ 3:59 pm [YO, I’m sure you are correct and I was mistaken. Thanks for the help. Anyone who flies has my respect. I was not up to the stress. Not many are. JCH, LT, USN [1110, 76-84]]

    Comment by JCH — 1/24/06 @ 4:44 pm

  6. 1680

    Yeah, that’s JCH telling our friend Windie that going Mach 2 is not for pussies.

    Apparently, the US Navy agreed with JCH and thought him too much of a PUSSY to go Mach 2.

    That’s why he WASHED-OUT, although he tried to convince Libertarian is was all my vivid imagination.

    Hey, Mr. Cynical, can you believe it? There’s a BIGGER Chickenhawk on this blog than you!!!!

    WOW! I bet you’d never see the day, did you? Me either. Congratulations, you’re no longer the biggest PUSSY on the blog.

  7. 1681

    3

    “Roger Rabbit won’t be there, but not for the reason he posted above. This morning, after he finished his morning BM in Stefan’s garden, he reached for the Preparation-H to soothe his ‘rhoids. Unfortunately for the bunny, he grabbed a tube of Ben-Gay instead of the hemmorhoid cream. He took off like, well, a jack rabbit, and we think he’s still running, somewhere in Western Montanna. Commentby Yossarian— 3/7/06@ 3:00 pm”

    How the hell did YOU find out about this??? Are you one of Bush’s KGB agents??? I thought only Stefan and Rove knew about it.

  9. 1683

    4

    “However, anyone else who wants to abuse JCH as their personal Blog Bitch has my blessing.”

    I didn’t feel I needed your permission to abuse JCH, but I appreciate doing it with your blessing!

    “Did I mention I busted JCH lying about his military service?”

    Yes, but please tell me again! :D :D :D

  12. 1686

    Can anyone tell me who offers the cheapest on-line airfares? I need to fly from Billings to Seattle within the next day or so.

  13. 1687

    I suppose I could get home the same way I got here, but my legs are tired and my feet are sore.

  15. 1689

    Roger Rabbit @ 9:

    “Did I mention I busted JCH lying about his military service?”

    Yes, but please tell me again! Some stories you never get tired of hearing ”

    OK, Roger Rabbit, I’ll retell the story, just for you.

    How to catch a Conservative in the act of lying:

    Note the date/time stamps.

    http://www.horsesass.org/index.php?p=1332

    108, Libertarian, I never attended flight school. Hence, I never “washed out”. All a figment of GBS’s vivid “imagination”. All my training was done in Newport, RI and Coronado, Ca, as well as the old Philadelphia Ship Yard. Then, three WESTPACs of 6 monthe each , one ten month IO cruise, and a tour in Coronado at the NAB. Four years at sea, and two ashore.

    Comment by Myron [JCH] Silverstein, ESQ— 2/24/06 @ 3:04 pm

    @ 123

    JCH: Are you saying GWB served in combat then? Just askin’
    Comment by windie — 1/24/06 @ 3:59 pm [No, but, Windie, have YOU ever “buckled up” in a Mach 2 F-106? Not for pussies. I washed out of Naval Air [bad GI] and served Surface Line [1110]. Flying [and training] in military jets are not for the Bill Clintons of the world.]
    Comment by JCH — 1/24/06 @ 4:37 pm

    @ 125

    FLY NAVY
    DA WO

    Comment by YO — 1/24/06 @ 3:59 pm [YO, I’m sure you are correct and I was mistaken. Thanks for the help. Anyone who flies has my respect. I was not up to the stress. Not many are. JCH, LT, USN [1110, 76-84]]

    Comment by JCH — 1/24/06 @ 4:44 pm

  16. 1690

    Here’s the abbreviated version of Catching a Conservative “RED” handed.

    I never attended flight school. Hence, I never “washed out”. All a figment of GBS’s vivid “imagination”.

    I washed out of Naval Air [bad GI] and served Surface Line

    Now I know how it feels to be any number of federal prosecutors!!

  17. 1691

    “Can anyone tell me who offers the cheapest on-line airfares? I need to fly from Billings to Seattle within the next day or so.
    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/7/06@ 3:46 pm”

    Try Rectum Airlines Rog you big A$$hole!

  19. 1693

    Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL due to traffic problems caused by the crush of admiring fans, papparazzi, process servers, bail bondsmen, and Bush’s secret police.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/7/06@ 2:52 pm

    Roger didn’t you see those black helicopters flying around Green Lake today.

  20. 1694

    Hey, Mr. Cynical, can you believe it? There’s a BIGGER Chickenhawk on this blog than you!!!!

    WOW! I bet you’d never see the day, did you? Me either. Congratulations, you’re no longer the biggest PUSSY on the blog.

    Commentby GBS— 3/7/06@ 3:10 pm

    GBS what are you a girlie boy?

  21. 1695

    Hey – Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the skit Bush performed of the search for WMD’s? It seems that the video of it has totally disappeared from the internet…. TIA

  22. 1696

    GBS what are you a girlie boy?

    Commentby klake— 3/7/06@ 5:19 pm

    Klake, explore your sexual curiosity with someone else. Thank you very much.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with it, it’s just not for me.

  23. 1697

    17

    “… big A$$hole! Commentby Mr. Cynical— 3/7/06@ 4:55 pm”

    It’s probably the same size as before, but it feels six feet across.

  24. 1698

    19

    “Roger didn’t you see those black helicopters flying around Green Lake today. Commentby klake— 3/7/06@ 5:18 pm”

    They haven’t been back since I shot one down last week. I think that scared them off.

  25. 1699

    20

    “GBS what are you a girlie boy?”

    Only one trollfuck on this blog is stupid enough to ask a question like this. Hmmm … who could it be?

    “Commentby klake— 3/7/06@ 5:19 pm”

    Yep, I thought so!

  26. 1700

    gbs dont forget to read your blue jacket manual.now here is your lesson for today.when you talk about someone washing out of a program there are lots of things that could of happened.one is a person was selected for pilot and never got in to yhe cockpit because nami says you can not pass the eye exam.you may be color blind.or when you get to pensacola you are unable to pass the physical.so therefore you get what they give you surface supply amdo.so you never get to see a plane that happens all the time.so dont be so snug.and while on the subject why dont you tell us how much time you spent in the navy and why you got.im waiting but ill be no answer from you real soon.

  27. 1701

    “… big A$$hole! Commentby Mr. Cynical— 3/7/06@ 4:55 pm”
    It’s probably the same size as before, but it feels six feet across.
    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 3/7/06@ 5:49 pm

    That’s what happens when you hang with homo’s Rog. From now on when you drop a carrot, DO NOT BEND OVER & PICK IT UP!!! Instead kick it all the way back to your hole.

  28. 1702

    GBS, I always love the story where you explain how you outed JCH as a liar.

    I could hear that story every day!

  29. 1703

    DAWO @26

    Oh, God. Please, can’t you just figure out why JCH sucks and be done with it? It ain’t hard to figure…

  30. 1704

    @ 29 It is pretty clear that DA WA and JCH are differrent people in the same body.

  32. 1706

    26
    “gbs dont forget to read your blue jacket manual.now …”

    The rantings of an illiterate.

  37. 1711

    DON WHY DONT YOU TELL US ABOUT YOUR COMBAT DUTY.YOU KNOW THAT BIG FIGHT IN THE BAR IN CANADA.CHICKEN SHIT.

  38. 1712

    HEY ROGER DELAY GOT HIS ASS KICKED.YOU SURE CAN PICK THEM.WHY DONT YOU TELL US ABOUT NOVEMBER AND HOW THE BIG BAD DEMOCRATIC IS GOING TO KICK HIS ASS.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA HHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHAAHAAHAHA HAHAHAAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAH HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH AHAHAAHAHAHA.LOOOOOOOOOOOOSER.

  40. 1714

    DR E YOU WOULD NOT KNOW WHAT ABLUE JACKET MANUAL IS IF IT HIT YOU IN THE FUCKING HEAD.GO LOOK IT UP ON THE NET.

  44. 1718

    38

    Give Texas back to Mexico!!! Dumb shits … Texans are almost as dumb as Dumb Ass Wash Out!!! :(

  46. 1720

    Rog–
    This is way too important of a news article to merely post a link:

    Band of bunnies comes indoors
    By Stuart Eskenazi
    Seattle Times staff reporter

    Rabbits captured from the Woodland and Green Lake parks are living temporarily in a nondescript building within Magnuson Park. The rabbits are headed to a Redmond sanctuary.
    The bunnies captured so far in the rabbit roundup at Woodland and Green Lake parks are settling into their temporary digs.
    Unsuspecting rabbits began taking the bait on Feb. 27, the first night of an ongoing project to rid the parks of bunnies and stop the damage that their burrowing causes. The rabbits are not meant to live in the wild but have been popular attractions with park visitors.

    As of Tuesday afternoon, four dozen rabbits had been trapped and transported across Seattle in pet carriers to a nondescript building within Magnuson Park at Sand Point. The frisky females on Tuesday were bounding about on a straw-covered floor within the confines of a 4-foot-high metal pen. The males, which are more aggressive, were either living in individual cages or chasing one another within a small enclosure.

    All will be sterilized, with 15 females already spayed. From Magnuson, the rabbits will move to a sanctuary in rural Redmond, where they will live out their lives if they don’t get adopted as pets.

    Seattle Parks and Recreation officials estimate that 150 to 250 rabbits currently live within several sections of Woodland and Green Lake parks. The trapping is concentrated at the north end of a picnic-shelter loop at Woodland Park and a small triangle-shaped meadow on the west side of Green Lake, and is occurring each weeknight just after dusk.

    Three volunteers set the homemade box trap, which is propped up on one side by a pipe tied to a string. The volunteers bait the trap with cabbage and carrots, back up about 30 feet and wait for the rabbits.

    Sometimes they come, sometimes they don’t. Last Friday, the rabbits got spooked by a group of people walking through and then by a dog running off-leash.
    More volunteers are needed and donations are being sought. Information: http://www.woodlandparkrabbits.org
    “On nice days, we’re only getting a couple rabbits because people are out there feeding them all day long and we need them to be hungry in order for them to take the bait,” said Sandi Ackerman, founder of Rabbit Meadows Sanctuary, who is helping the parks department with the roundup. “We’re hoping for rainy days.”

    Ackerman said three of the rabbits captured appear to be pets recently dumped at the park. Volunteers also have trapped a couple of baby bunnies — a sign the population is multiplying, making the roundup a race against time.

    Ackerman estimated it would take two or three months to capture all of the rabbits, “but if people keep feeding them, it’s going to stretch it out longer. We need to trap as fast as possible because those moms who gave birth undoubtedly are pregnant again already. Within a few hours after giving birth, they will mate again.”

    Ackerman said more volunteers are needed so that rabbits can be trapped at multiple locations each night. Additional volunteers also are needed to clean the temporary rabbit quarters at Magnuson and to feed the captured bunnies.

    Barb DeCaro, resource conservation coordinator for the parks department, is asking park visitors to respect the trapping process and stay back while it is taking place.

    DeCaro said that after the roundup is over, the parks department will continue to monitor the rabbit population in the parks to make sure it does not explode again. The cost to capture and sterilize a rabbit is about $100 each. The parks department has fronted.

    This is funny shit Rog. Are you really chasing the “other Males”??? Homo-like behavior by our resident Rabbit!

  47. 1721

    “DR E IF YOU DONT CARE THAN [sic] GO TAKE A SHIT.”

    I think you meant to say “then”, right?

  48. 1722

    46

    When I did ever post that I “chase the other males?” On the other hand, I have frequently described my M.O., which is — line ’em up and bang ’em 10 at a time!!! “Process” 600 female per hour!!!

    As for sterilizing bunnies, they have to catch me before they can tutor me!!!

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  49. 1723

    As for the bunny roundup, no problem, Easter is just around the corner and two weeks after that people will start dumping their Easter Bunnies in the park, and I’ll make some new female bunny acquaintances and Green Lake Park will be repopulated with cute fluffy little cottontails in no time!

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  50. 1724

    DA WO @ 26:

    Are you a stupid “wing-nut” or what?!?!?

    I’m not the one who made up the shit about JCH washing out of flight school. He’s the one who admitted it, then later LIED it and tried to convince everybody that was ME making it up.

    You fucking cock sucker. I know what a BJM is and I also know that in boot camp when you make your rack the sheet should fold back one BJM form the end of the mattress and the fold should only be one BJM wide. Or, when you open the barrack’s window they all must be open and they all must be opened one BJM.

    So learn read and comprehend what you are fucking reading you idiot. You know, I used to think you were some sort of stupid Bosun’s Mate, but the more I think about it the more you must’ve been some lame ass Aviation Machinist Mate.

    Is that it? DA WO.

    Is that why you’re such a stupid “wing-nut?”

    Jack ASS

  51. 1725

    I used to think that Naval Aviators had real balls because they’d land their jets on a pitching, rolling flight deck, day or night, good weather or bad.

    But after reading DA WO’s posts, I think pilots have big balls because they fly aircraft maintained by dumb fucking idiots like DA WO.

    See ya, brown-noser.

  52. 1726

    51

    Are you saying the aircraft are maintained by guys who couldn’t cut it in flight school? That’s not very comforting if you’re a pilot …

  53. 1727

    @ 52

    No that’s not what I’m saying because it’s obvious DA WO is way too stupid to even be considered for flight school

    He just comes across as a stupid Aviation Machinist Mate. Those are the guys who work on prop aircraft for the navy. Based on his rants, I wouldn’t want him working on my airplane.

    There’s not place to pull over when the blinking red light comes on. So you really don’t want dumb fuck trolls working on your airplane.

    That’s all I’m saying.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

I’ll be there tonight, looking forward to an icey cold Manny’s and another hot podcast. We may even have an interesting special guest. No promises, but we’ll see.

Comments

  3. 1730

    Goldy–
    I’ll try to make it….I’m sure the LEFTIST PINHEADED KLOWNS are anxious to meet me!
    I prefer that you not refer to me as your “special guest”…the KLOWNS might get the wrong idea.

  5. 1732

    Ms Chickenhawk (aka Oink),

    Glad to see you’re back. I needed a new punching bag after destroying JCH.

    How proud are you now of your failed president?

  8. 1735

    I would guess that all the righties would want to show up to get drunk seeing the latest ratings for the Chief Chickenhawk, i.e. the Commander and Thief, Baby Bush. Ratings in the 30s!!! Ouch! Worst ever recorded. No wonder the rethugs are putting distance between themselves and the failed president. Hopefully the voters will see how silly it is to let fear make the choice for president instead of hope!

  9. 1736

    Ready to bring ma “staff” and drink for free! REV Al and REV Louis will be there, too!! A little smoke, a little Black Velvet, and some China Brown!! We be partyin!!!!

  10. 1737

    “Yes to Rock Cocaine, No to filing Form 1040s!!” [Mayor Marian Berry, Democrat, D of C]

  14. 1741

    JCH:

    It really sucks to have your credibility totally eviscerated publicly, doesn’t it?

    A man is only as good as his word, and JCH nobody believes a word you say anymore.

    Now you’re relegated to making meaningless racial posts that nobody gives an ounce of credence to any more.

    I love the fact that I destroyed your credibility on this blog. You truly are a loser.

  16. 1743

    Do you guys really “drink liberally” to the point of over-indulgence? Be careful driving. The cops are always looking for a little revenue for the county/city coffers!

  17. 1744

    Ahhh looselips@15: How long did you take to think about that entry? One; two hours? You and rugratASS are still in the running for the dullest knife on ASSes. I will look up JCH the next trip to Hawaii, probably later this summer. What will you be doing mr wrestling coach? Drooling over a new incoming male freshman’s butt?

  19. 1746

    Bush’s “favorable” rating is now 34. There are a few Presidents Since WWII who have experienced lower ratings. Their fate is interesting: Truman, suffering from the Korean War stalemate was at 22 in Feb. 1952 (Eisenhower was elected in November of that year). Nixon was at 24 in Aug. 1974 shortly before he resigned due to the Watergate cover-up. Jimmy Carter was at 28 in June 1979, after a rescession, record oil prices, the worst winter in a long time, and during the Iranian Revolution (he was not re-elected the following year). George H.W. Bush (Bush I) was at 29 in July 1992, a rescession year, and he was not re-elected.

    None with approval ratings lower than Bush were re-elected, or if they did not run again their party lost in the next election. Good news for Democrates, except that they need to offer a tangible platform to bring back the working middle-class from the suburbs and farms. I don’t think the Democrats can get away with running “anybody” against “Bush”, who will not actually be there. Be prepared for lots more Republican candidates to be distancing themselves from Bush.

  20. 1747

    Puddybud,

    You’re going to look up JCH in Hawaii???

    Baaa haaa haaa haaa haaa.

    Oh shit, let me wipe the tears of laughter from my eyes. Ahhh, man.

    Forget about it, Puddy. You would have just as good of a chance of finding JCH Hawaii as you would in the cockpit of an F-18 Hornet at 20,000 feet — ZERO.

    That lying piece of white-trash, shit lives in a run down double-wide trailer next to MTR in Woodinvile. (I threw the racil slur in there just for you, Puddybud!!)

    Seriously, why would you want to waste time with a bona fide liar who makes all the racial slurs that he does? I mean you being an honest black man and all.

    Just in case you missed it, I’ll repost how I caught catching JCH lying.

    I just love doing this:
    http://www.horsesass.org/index.php?p=1332

    108, Libertarian, I never attended flight school. Hence, I never “washed out”. All a figment of GBS’s vivid “imagination”. All my training was done in Newport, RI and Coronado, Ca, as well as the old Philadelphia Ship Yard. Then, three WESTPACs of 6 monthe each , one ten month IO cruise, and a tour in Coronado at the NAB. Four years at sea, and two ashore.

    Comment by Myron [JCH] Silverstein, ESQ— 2/24/06 @ 3:04 pm

    @ 123

    JCH: Are you saying GWB served in combat then? Just askin’
    Comment by windie — 1/24/06 @ 3:59 pm [No, but, Windie, have YOU ever “buckled up” in a Mach 2 F-106? Not for pussies. I washed out of Naval Air [bad GI] and served Surface Line [1110]. Flying [and training] in military jets are not for the Bill Clintons of the world.]
    Comment by JCH — 1/24/06 @ 4:37 pm

    @ 125

    FLY NAVY
    DA WO

    Comment by YO — 1/24/06 @ 3:59 pm [YO, I’m sure you are correct and I was mistaken. Thanks for the help. Anyone who flies has my respect. I was not up to the stress. Not many are. JCH, LT, USN [1110, 76-84]]

    Comment by JCH — 1/24/06 @ 4:44 pm

    @ 152

    JCH:

    I served a short stint on the “mini-twat” USS Manitowoc County LST 1180. Hated the Marines, they seemed to have nothing to do but PT and wait in line for chow. The bastards.

    Comment by GBS — 1/24/06 @ 5:43 pm [True, but once ashore, they are the best. I couldn’t do what they do. Did you know Hillary said she tried to join the Marines? Roger Rabbit believes her!! He believes anyone who will ensure his “guvment” check comes every month.]

    Comment by JCH — 1/24/06 @ 6:10 pm

    @ 126

    The last little dig there is just to back up what I was saying all along, JCH admitted that the fucking Jar Heads were better than him.

    NO self respecting sailor makes a fucking statement like that.

    ———————————————————————

    NOTE: I have this saved on my desktop, so you’ll see it often.

  21. 1748

    GBS FOR SOMEONE WHO IS SUPPOSE TO BE UP ON NAVAL MATTERS YOU DONT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN 1110 SURFACE WAR FARE AND 3100 SUPPLY.NOW YOU SAY YOU WERE AN EN-1 WAS THAT BEFORE YOUR PROBLEMS YOU PROBLEY GOT OUT AS A FIREMAN.AND FOR YOU TO SAY I DID NOT SERVE IS BULLSHIT.I FORGOT MORE ABOUT THE NAVY THEN THE SHIT YOU TALK ABOUT.AFTER ALL STRIKING AN OFFICER IS REALLY SOMETHING TO BE PROUND OF.LOOOOOOOOOOSER.

  23. 1750

    Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL, and never on my birthday, but today isn’t my birthday. Then again, maybe it is. No wait, it’s not. Wait, no, oh what the heck … go ask Ann Coulter if today is my birthday.

  24. 1751

    3

    He wasn’t referring to you, Cynical. You’re not “special,” except maybe in a handicapped parking permit sense.

  26. 1753

    18

    “GBS, don’t you mean emasculated? Comment by Puddybud— 2/28/06 @ 4:23 pm”

    If JCH picks me up by my ears, the correct term will be “eviscerated.”

  27. 1754

    19

    “Democrates [sic] … need to offer a tangible platform to bring back the working middle-class from the suburbs and farms.”

    How about, “we won’t rob you like the Republicans do?”

  28. 1755

    Comment on 20

    GBS — just to be fair about this, nobody is as good at being cannon fodder as the Marines, with the possible exception of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards.

  29. 1756

    Hey Goldy, maybe Mr. Cynical will do a lap dance for you, if you give him a twenty!

  33. 1760

    hey,
    you guys spend some extra to help pay for our new $500,000 for mlking signs everywhere. nice, form over function

  34. 1761

    From the sorest of losers to the haters – from WrongOne to YO and JC Hater.

  35. 1762

    GBS, I own you, day and night! Five more posts with me as the light to you as the night bug.

  36. 1763

    Er, GBS, If you come to Hawaii you may have trouble getting into the gated community. People spend a shit load of money to ensure people like you can’t just walk throught the community.

  37. 1764

    30, If Republicans don’t work in the private sector, who would you tax to survive?

  38. 1765

    Looks like JCH lit up the crack pipe early tonight.

    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 2/28/06 @ 5:30 pm [Crack pipe? Marion Berry loves the crack pipe!!!]

  39. 1766

    “Glad to see you’re back. I needed a new punching bag after destroying JCH.” [GBS] GBS, E-3, busted for violations of the UCMJ, and ready to fight the Marine Corp: I was 1110!!!! Not Supply!! [I would not expect an E-3 th know the difference. Now, GBS, Get out of Officer’s Country and get back to mess “cranking”! I’ll do your E-3 and below eval later. JCH

  40. 1767

    Election records show that one of Tulsa’s mayoral candidates voted twice in a presidential election. Democratic candidate Kathy Taylor denies the accusation – but state records in Florida and Oklahoma show the votes, one by absentee, the other in person, for the 2000 election.

    Here is just another Democrat who took Michael Moore’s advice and voted twice in 2000.

    Details, everyone knows she only voted once, in two different states. Sheesh, how can they get hung up on details, details are for the little people and republicans.

    She’s in big trouble with her party because she only voted twice.

    [A little more Democrat voter fraud????????? Why yes!!!!]

  41. 1768

    E3 GBS, Were you asked to leave the service under dishonorable conditions?

  42. 1769

    21, DA WO, Correct. E3 GBS doesn’t know or understand the difference. Unrestricted Line: 1110. Thanks, JCH

  43. 1770

    33

    “you guys spend some extra to help pay for our new $500,000 for mlking signs everywhere. nice, form over function Comment by Righton— 2/28/06 @ 6:20 pm”

    No problem, the county already has the money from Mark the Redneck’s court fines.

  44. 1771

    Mrs. Rakeface got half, the court clerk got half — 500k apiece.

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  48. 1775

    The Dynamic Duo: JCH and Da Wa (Yo): Turning Independents Democratic One Post At A Time.

  49. 1776

    46

    You need some new material, DumbAssWashOut! You’re repeating yourself.

    DA WO = DUMB ASS WASH OUT

  50. 1777

    DA WOO “Kim Jong-il”:

    JCH is a proven liar. Everything he states is suspect at best. He was not a SWO. He was in fact a WASHOUT who became a Supply Officer in the Gator Navy. Period.

    Maybe if you visit JCH in “Hawaii,” (Woodinville) he’ll take you for a ride in his private Learjet.

    Oh, no, he CAN’T. He washed out of flight school (see my post at 20 where JCH wrote that he did WASHOUT and that being in a Mach 2 F-106 is not for “pussies.”

    Through JCH’s own admission he’s a PUSSY. And, Kim Jong-il, you’re his personal ass licker. Guys like you sucked the corn out of officers ass holes because you live the life of a brown-noser. Real enlisted MEN in all branches of the service had utter disdain for nimrods like you.

    Ass licker.

    PS: FLY NAVY

    BAAA HAAA HAAA HAAAA HAAA HAAA HAAA HAAA HAAA HAA

    “You’re doing a heckuva job, BROWN-NOSER!!!”

  51. 1778

    DA WOO “Brown-Noser” @ 21

    I didn’t strike an officer, I whooped ass on a Marine who couldn’t cash the check his mouth was writing.

    Of course you being the supreme ASS LICKER, you would’ve just said “Yes, sir, you’re right, sir.” “May I shine your shoes, sir?” “I agree, sir, sailors are pussies, just ask my Supply Officer, Lost Testicles JCH.” “He’ll confirm your comments, sir.”

    PS: You’re still a “Brown-Noser.”

  52. 1779

    GBS – I don’t recall the Navy flying the F-106. I knew a few of those guys who flew them. The F-106 was strictly an Air Force interceptor, flown initially by the “Gentlemen’s Flying Club” at Air Defense Command. They got rolled into Tactical Air Command at some point. So, if JCH says something about the Navy flying F106’s, he’s wrong.

  53. 1780

    JCH @ 42:

    “GBS doesn’t know or understand the difference. Unrestricted Line: 1110.

    What I really don’t understand, JCH, is why you CLEARLY lied about WASHING-OUT of flight school?

    Why don’t you try taking the “high road” for once in your life and explain why you chose to LIE about your military service?

    If you choose to not explain your dishonest actions then you leave everyone on this blog with no other option than to believe what you wrote in your own words, which clearly demonstrated you to be a lying fucking piece of shit WASHOUT.

    So here’s your BIG chance to take a bold new step in a direction that a conservative rarely goes — the honesty route.

    Go on be a MAN, tell the truth about why you LIED.

    PS: Don’t lie about lying.

  54. 1781

    Libertarian @ 52:

    I didn’t think the F-106 was a naval fighter either, but I’m no expert in naval aviation. But, my understanding is that any fighter aircraft deployed by the navy must meet carrier qualifications. i.e. beefed up landing gear, tail hook, and specialized air intakes that work being catapulted off the deck.

    I’ll bet Kim Jong-il (DA WO) could verify that the navy uses F-106’s since he was a wing nut in the navy. On the other hand, he’ll probably say anything to ASS LICK his superior, JCH.

  55. 1782

    GBS – The good thing about aviation is that it’s easy to prove when someone’s lying about it!

  56. 1783

    Libertarian @ 52:

    Now that I think about it, JCH didn’t say he had flown the F-106, what he was referring to was that George W. Bush flew the F-106 in the TANG.

    Then he went on to say how how going Mach 2 is not for pussies. Apparently, JCH falls into the pussy category.

  57. 1784

    Libertarian @ 55:

    You are correct, aviation is extremely specific and thus ferrets out liars fairly quickly.

    Question: Is my assertion @ 54 correct — naval aircraft have different requirements than regular fighters, due to their extreme rigors of carrier take-offs and landings?

    I would value you opinion since you have REAL experience in military aviation.

    Thanks,
    GBS

  58. 1785

    GBS – The good thing about aviation is that it’s easy to prove when someone’s lying about it!

    Comment by Libertarian— 3/1/06 @ 9:47 am The Navy used A-4s and A-6s for bombing, and F4s and the [at that time] brand new F-14As with the new Phoenix weapons system for fighters in 1977. F-106s were Air Force fighters. I was 1110, [Surfare Warfare. SWO, [77-84]]. Ignore E3 GBS, as he gets confused easily.

  59. 1786

    JCH:

    Now it becomes crystal clear to me why JCH lied.

    If you read my post at 20, you will see that you are the person JCH was responding to when he lied about going to flight school and that it was all my “vivid imagination” about him WASHING-OUT.

    JCH realized that if he told you he went to flight school tha you, being a pilot in the air force, would have quickly exposed him. So, JCH opted to put the “blame” on me by saying it was all my “vivid imagination.” He was banking on the fact that I wouldn’t read his lie because earlier on that particular thread I said I was leaving for the weekend.

    He thought he was safe.

    He was hoping and praying he could squeeze his lie through and convince everyone that I was the one, in fact, who was lying. However, I didn’t leave because I was reading some other comments, then I saw his post on the thread.

    As I’ve confessed before, I’m not the smartest person on this thread and I’m certainly no expert on aviation, but I do have a good memory, especially for the details. I started thinking about where that conversation was taking place regarding JCH and flying. It led me to the thread in the archives where JCH had posted his comments about flight school. Once I saw him contradicting himself, I exposed his lies.

    And, that’s how the enlisted man, with no college education, trapped the “officer” with a degree from Penn State and an MBA, lying.

    And, noooooowwwww, you know the rest of the story.

    G’day.

  60. 1787

    I’ll bet Kim Jong-il (DA WO) could verify that the navy uses F-106’s since he was a wing nut in the navy. On the other hand, he’ll probably say anything to ASS LICK his superior, JCH.

    Comment by GBS— 3/1/06 @ 9:39 am [No wonder you were busted to E3. After sticking a commissioned officer, did you leave the military under “less than honorable” conditions?]

  62. 1789

    GBS – Yes, you are correct: carrier-based aircraft have beefed-up landing gear and other structural modifications to adapt those aircraft to the rigors of carrier landings. The F-4, the workhorse air-to-air and air-to-ground McDonald-Douglas fighter of the Vietnam excursion, was developed jointly by the Navy and AF, so even some of the AF versions had tail hooks that were an odd accessory for the AF boys. But this tailhook did actually save a guy’s but once: the leader in a flight of two F-4s got hit pretty bad, and it looked like he and his Wisso (Weapons System Officer) might have to eject over enemy territory.

    The wingman, hoping to help his flight lead avoid time at the Hanoi Hilton, told the leader to drop his tail hook. (Now, remember this is an Air Force plane with NO obvious use for the tailhook.) The formation leader dropped his tail hook, and the wingman maneuvered behind the flight lead. The wingman evenutally made contact with the extended tail hook, pressing the fuselage of the his aircraft against the tail hook. The wingman then “pushed” the distressed F-4 to over open water of the Gulf of Tonkin. The flight leader and Wisso ejected and were rescued by the Navy.

    Motto of the story: co-operation in the military is a very good thing, and you are correct in your comments about Navy aircraft vs. the Air Force models.

  63. 1790

    “Ignore E3 GBS, as he gets confused easily.

    Comment by Jesse [JCH] Jackson— 3/1/06 @ 10:41 am

    JCH’s comments reminds me of the Wizard of Oz. . . “Ignore that man behind the curtain!!”

  64. 1791

    59…GBS, Are you totally nuts? Do you think about me day and night? Are you just a little obsessed? No wonder you were asks to leave the military.

  65. 1792

    62, Lib, Great History Channel story, along with Randy “Duke” Cunningham’s 5 MIG kills.

  66. 1793

    Now that I think about it, JCH didn’t say he had flown the F-106, what he was referring to was that George W. Bush flew the F-106 in the TANG.

    Then he went on to say how how going Mach 2 is not for pussies. Apparently, JCH falls into the pussy category.

    Comment by GBS— 3/1/06 @ 9:50 am [Finally, Dumbass, GBS, you have corrected yourself!]

  67. 1794

    Thanks, Libertarian, much appreciated. Great story of AF pilots thinking under extreme conditions.

    Paying attention to details, like having a tail hook with no AF application saved the lead pilots life.

    Did you catch that, JCH? Details, baby, details. As I’ve said a thousand times to you, this is why you flunked out of flight school you don’t pay attention to the details.

    Like your lies.

  68. 1795

    I’ll bet Kim Jong-il (DA WO) could verify that the navy uses F-106’s since he was a wing nut in the navy. On the other hand, he’ll probably say anything to ASS LICK his superior, JCH.

    Comment by GBS— 3/1/06 @ 9:39 am [If the Navy used F-106s for ANYTHING I was not aware, nor did I ever say I flew one!! No wonder you were busted to E3.]

  70. 1797

    JCH:

    NO shit LIAR, that’s why I clarified YOUR words to Libertarian. See, unlike you, I didn’t want to mislead him about what you were saying.

    That’s called being HONEST. I know this is a confusing skill for you, having not practiced it much.

  72. 1799

    JCH:

    Answer my question at 53.

    If you MAN enough to be honest, that is.

    BTW, thanks for using Randy “Duke” Cunningham. You couldn’t have piced a better model for a lying, corrupt bastard.

    LIAR.

  73. 1800

    [Finally, Dumbass, GBS, you have corrected yourself!]

    Comment by Jesse [JCH] Jackson— 3/1/06 @ 10:49 am

    It’s about time you corrected yourself, don’t you think, JCH?

    Follow my example of honesty. Again, I know that being a conservative it’s engrained in you to lie first, think later. But, I think once you come clean you’ll feel better about yourself.

    Dick suck.

  75. 1802

    Randy Cunningham – the whole episode was a disgrace to military aviators. I don’t get it – wasn’t being a retired Navy O-6 (or was it O-7) and being a representative enough? Why take a bribe when you’ve got the world by hoo-hoos, financially speaking?

  76. 1803

    Libertarian @ 75:

    The “love” of money is the root of all evil. Greed is a factor that corrupts many a good men.

    Randy “Duke” Cunningham brought disgrace not just to himself, his family, but to all who are Naval Aviators (JCH doesn’t have to worry). Duke was a real war hero, and now all his accomplishments will forever be stained.

  79. 1806

    75…Agreed. In addition, his wife had a well paid position in the San Diego School District [90-100K a yr]. He is a true con artist, but…………The subject was F4Js.

  81. 1808

    Fellow Republicans: Why not register and vote Republican a dozen times in different WASH counties using the name “Leroy LaDamion Jackson”? Vote by mail a dozen times using a King County Government Bluilding as the address. NO ONE will question anything, as the Dems will defend multiple voting by minorities as “Any questions are RACIST!!!” Beat the libs at their own game!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  82. 1809

    Randy Cunninghnm is going to be sentenced soon. I think he should get a long term in jail. He had so much going for him that it was incredible that he actually let himself get corrupted by money and politics.

    He’s an old man now, so if he dies in prison that will be part of the punishment he deserves. I have no sympathy for him.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

Unfortunately, I’m stuck down here in Florida, forced to endure 80 degrees and sunshine, so I want be able to join you tonight.

And FYI, the first gathering of the Burien chapter meets tomorrow, 7PM at Mick Kelly’s Irish Pub, 435 SW 152nd St. I promise to stop by the first chance I get.

Comments

  2. 1811

    Belltowner,

    Since Goldy’s gone this week, are you behind the helm of this weeks’ podcast? If so, I might hang around a bit longer to point and giggle (in a nice supportive way, of course).

  3. 1812

    Since Goldy is gone this week, I will be the guest speaker at Drinking Liberally. I hope you will all join me in an sensitive evening of drink and conversation!

  4. 1813

    To any Republicans who plan on joining us at Drinking Liberally: Make sure you “axe” for separate bar bill checks, as some of our liberal “regulars” like to “drink and run”. Sadly, they feel “entitled” and look for “someone else’s money” to pay their bill.

  5. 1814

    Oh, The speech title for Drinking Liberally: Suing Any And All Corporations For Millions [Silly Torts For Democrats] , by Myron Silverstein

  7. 1816

    Ron Sims will be there to explain his plan for enriching the poor in King County. No doubt it will involve taking money from those that work and have money and giving to those that don’t work and don’t have money. There even might be some forced charity involved. The Chief Grasshopper rewarding the other grasshoppers at the expense of the ants.

  8. 1817

    6, Beltowner, You will wait your turn, as butting in this week would be consider racist.

  9. 1818

    Yosarian, I will also be requiring and collecting “donations” to the Seattle Democrat Rainbow Coilition. REV Louis and his “staff” will be assisting in the collection.

  10. 1819

    Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL due to traffic problems caused by crowds of Arab terrorists hired by Bush to provide security.

  11. 1820

    Hey can any of you trollfucks explain to me why the leader of the National Security Party wants to hire Arabs to guard our ports?

  12. 1821

    9, cont…….As always, no receipts for cash “donations” will be issued. Any “donation” deemed to be “nominal” will be considered racist!

  13. 1822

    After this fiasco, nobody should ever again take Bush’s national security rhetoric seriously.

  14. 1823

    1o, RR, We don’t care if you can’t make it, but a donation to the Seattle Democrat Rainbow Coilition will be required, as we know where your chillin go to school.

  15. 1824

    Why not hire AMERICANS to guard our ports? Don’t you get the feeling Bush does things like this just to stick his thumb in the eyes of AMERICAN workers? Why do Republicans hate American workers? Can any of you terrorist-loving trollfucks answer that question?

  18. 1827

    Hey Goldy, while you’re down there in Florida, how about making a citizen’s arrest of Ann Coulter for felony voting fraud? You’ll perform a valuable public service.

  19. 1828

    7

    Yo — you’re the last person on earth who knows anything about “work.” Unless you consider getting paid by the BIAW to post bullshit on HA to be “work.” That’s a strange definition of “work” if you ask me.

  20. 1829

    Isn’t a crackup how Republicans always talk about “work” when they’re the very people who devote their entire lives to figuring out ways to make other people do the work (and the fighting) so they don’t have to?

  22. 1831

    That’s a strange definition of “work” if you ask me.

    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 2/21/06 @ 2:10 pm

    No, I’d say a career as a worthless, piece-of-shit, “guvmint” attorney is the most useless career around. Of course, you’d know all about that, wouldn’t you, Roger?

  23. 1832

    Yossarian–
    Ouch! Except that Mr. Rabbit is too shameless to be offended!
    Anyway, I appreciate your ability to stab the rabbit IN THE FACE, rather than in the back.

  24. 1833

    13 -15

    In the best of Empires, the Emperor gives concessions to the Courtiers, in return for a cut of the action.

    Bush and Co. would sell Grany Barbara for a few more millons in the off shore accounts.

    Totally corrupt, totally in keeping with the traitors and looters running the country.

    This might be a gambit to – next, reach a comrpmise and the contracts go to Haliburton.

    Also remember, there are hundreds of billions of dollars in our various banking systems of Arab Oil Cash.

    Do not want to be alarmist, but it has long been speculated all that money taken out of the sytem could indeed crash our economy.

    Mrs. Rice is out there ragging at Syria which just wnet off the dollar for all oil deals. Euros only for Syria. The theory that the rest of the world must take us always on our own terms forever is false.

    Possible case for some good foreigh policy and less war and chaos among nations. Does not make me feel good to know we are living on the Cheney-Rumsfield theory of how to govern.

    Time for a Longshoreman action to shut down all the ports for a day or two.

    Hire American. Union wages. Tell the Arabs to invest in Africa and Asia, and Hati.

  25. 1834

    “After this fiasco, nobody should ever again take Bush’s national security rhetoric seriously.”

    Bush does not, and has never cared about national security. It’s nothing more than a useful scare tactic for keeping the brain-stem Republicans in line. What Bush does care about, however, is corporate cronyism, and that’s exactly what this UAE deal smacks of:

    Dubai company set to run U.S. ports has ties to administration

    “The Dubai firm that won Bush administration backing to run six U.S. ports has at least two ties to the White House.

    “One is Treasury Secretary John Snow, whose department heads the federal panel that signed off on the $6.8 billion sale of an English company to government-owned Dubai Ports World – giving it control of Manhattan’s cruise ship terminal and Newark’s container port.

    “Snow was chairman of the CSX rail firm that sold its own international port operations to DP World for $1.15 billion in 2004, the year after Snow left for President Bush’s cabinet.

    “The other connection is David Sanborn, who runs DP World’s European and Latin American operations and who was tapped by Bush last month to head the U.S. Maritime Administration.”

  27. 1836

    The key quote from Chucklenuts seems to be this:

    “I want those who are questioning it to step up and explain why all of a sudden a Middle Eastern company is held to a different standard than a Great British company,” Bush said. “I am trying to conduct foreign policy now by saying to the people of the world, `We’ll treat you fairly.'”

    So, I guess it’s all about foreign policy now

  29. 1838

    Seems like a fairy tale.

    “The Chimp that Roared”

    The monkey in chief is now resorting to his oft used veto (0 in 5 years) to get his chickenhawk house back in order. No more sending the enforcer (or fingernail puller) Rove? Looks nice that Frist and Hastert are finally getting a little balls (if that is possible) and standing up for something!

  30. 1839

    and another, isn’t it a pitty that once high flying ‘Scooter’ has to resort to a personal webpage to try and raise money for his defense! All of you neocons (especially Mr Oink and his pet pig, JCH) should get to that site quickely and sign up for the one time $10,000 donation or the monthly $1,000! Oink, I am quite sure you can get BIAW to reimburse your ‘novel’ expense.

    http://www.scooterlibby.com/

    Libby Legal Defense Trust

    Me thinks he would be better using his slush fund to go join ‘Gold’s Gym’ and build up a little. JCH can tell you what happens to wimps when they get locked in the brigade!

  31. 1840

    and what a blazing endorsement he has on the top of his page. Direct from “Quail* shooting Cheney”

    *78 year old lawyer type quail that takes all the blame on himself.

  32. 1841

    Having study “Boss Tweed” and the Democratic Tammany Hall Machine that ran New York 130 years ago, I have to say he was an amateur compared to the modern day Bush/Cheney/Rove/Delay machine of 2006:

    There is little question that the Tweed Ring were outright thieves and that Tammany Hall did have a series of reoccurring scandals. An estimated 75 to 200 million dollars were swindled from the City between 1865 and 1871.

    Adjusted for inflation- http://oregonstate.edu/Dept/po.....cv2005.xls – that amounts to at most 3.6 billion dollars in 6 years. The Administration steals twice that much in a single deal.

  33. 1842

    22

    “No, I’d say a career as a worthless, piece-of-shit, “guvmint” attorney is the most useless career around. Of course, you’d know all about that, wouldn’t you, Roger? Comment by Yossarian— 2/21/06 @ 2:15 pm”

    Yep, I know all too well how ungrateful wingnuts are for the government services they can’t seem to get enough of, for example, law enforcement …

    Yo — let’s do this. Let’s eliminate the prosecutor’s office in your county, so anybody in your area can commit any crimes they want to, knowing nothing will happen to them. In addition, let’s eliminate all traffic enforcement, land use controls, public roads, and government contracts, subsidies, and entitlements for businesses and individuals in YOUR county. You’ll have meth labs and whorehouses right next door! You like? I like … why should I pay taxes to provide government services to an ingrate like you?

  34. 1843

    23

    “Anyway, I appreciate your ability to stab the rabbit IN THE FACE, rather than in the back. Comment by Oink— 2/21/06 @ 2:26 pm”

    Oink, if you gotta be a Republican, you’re my kind of Republican? Wanna meet sometime for a knife fight? Liability waivers required.

  35. 1844

    23

    “Anyway, I appreciate your ability to stab the rabbit IN THE FACE, rather than in the back. Comment by Oink— 2/21/06 @ 2:26 pm”

    Oink, if you gotta be a Republican, you’re my kind of Republican! Wanna meet sometime for a knife fight? Liability waivers required.

  39. 1848

    Does anyone besides me think Bush’s outsourcing of port security to Arabs goes deeper than just being cheap labor conservatives? Considering Bush’s job policies overall, I think this guy has a hard-on for American workers, if not a general antagonism toward the middle class. Don’t you get the feeling he does this shit deliberately — even if it compromises our national security — just because he enjoys fucking over people who have to work for a living?

  40. 1849

    I think it stems from the fact he was a miserable failure in business, and would have been a miserable failure in his entire life if family wealth and connections hadn’t bailed him out of his ineptitude, and as a result of his miserable failed life he has a hate-the-world mentality. Serious emotional dysfunction here.

  42. 1851

    28

    Speaking of transparency, I see the Bush administration is now reclassifying public documents that have been declassified and available for public access for years and in some cases for decades. Don’t you get the feeling they do this kind of shit just because they get their jollies by fucking with people they don’t like? In this case, academics and journalists.

    “U.S. Reclassifies Many Documents in Secret Review

    “By SCOTT SHANE, The New York Times
    “Updated: 03:55 AM EST

    “WASHINGTON (Feb. 21) – In a seven-year-old secret program at the National Archives, intelligence agencies have been removing from public access thousands of historical documents that were available for years, including some already published by the State Department and others photocopied years ago by private historians.”

    For complete story, see http://articles.news.aol.com/n.....8;cid=2194

    (This post is an exercise of the “fair use” doctrine and is intended to comply with all applicable copyright laws. If you don’t like it, pay your girlfriend a visit http://www.msu.edu/~nixonjos/a.....-unger.jpg, she’s lonely.)

  43. 1852

    26

    “The fact that Bush is now threatening to veto legislation that would put this deal on hold makes one wonder just how much the administration has at stake. Comment by Dr. E— 2/21/06 @ 2:41 pm”

    Wouldn’t it be ironic if Bush used the first veto of his administration to allow Arabs to run port security in the U.S.?

  44. 1853

    ohhhh … excuuuuuse meeeeee … I believe the wingnut term for our new port security guards is “towelheads.” Don’t wanna be politically incorrect, do we.

  45. 1854

    oops sorry for the double post
    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 2/21/06 @ 3:50 pm

    That’s ok Mr. Rabbit. Sorry for stabbing you in the face twice!

  47. 1856

    45

    “Sorry for stabbing you in the face twice! Comment by Oink— 2/21/06 @ 4:05 pm”

    Since nobody has stabbed me in the last 5 years, I have to assume you stabbed someone else. When was the last time you got new eyeglasses? Maybe it’s time for a checkup.

  49. 1858

    Getting out the Democrat vote: Inventory: Marlboros, Black Velvet, King Cobra, welfare checks, food stamps, Popeye’s Family Meals, meth, crack, and tons of cocaine. All set?

  50. 1859

    Getting out the Republican vote; Inventory: Laptop computer and source code for Diebold and Sequoia electronic voting machines.

  51. 1860

    “Unfortunately, I’m stuck down here in Florida, forced to endure 80 degrees and sunshine, so I want be able to join you tonight.”

    Goldy WANT be able to attend?

  52. 1861

    Maybe you turds can come up with a reason why someone would be PROUD to be gay or a Lesbian….and why one would have a parade to celebrate their gayness????
    Seriously, we hear the constant drumbeat of Gay Pride?
    I ask How Come??
    What exactly do gays do special that distinguishes them from the rest of us that is worthy of great PRIDE???
    If someone asked me what I was most PROUD of, I can pretty safely say that being a Heterosexual would not come to mind.
    I think the Gay Pride thing is silly.
    I think Gay Parades are silly.
    Fella’s rolling in the sack with fella’s…..PRIDE???

  54. 1863

    JCH @ 16, 17 and everywhere else- now I understand your posts. Before sitting at the computer, you drink liberally, more likely excessively.

  55. 1864

    Now here is something to really be PROUD of!

    SAN FRANCISCO – City officials are hoping to harness the power of dog doo. San Franciscans already recycle more than 60 percent of their garbage, but in this dog-friendly town, animal feces make up nearly 4 percent of residential waste, or 6,500 tons a year — nearly as much as disposable diapers, according to the city.
    Within the next few months, Norcal Waste, a garbage hauling company that collects San Francisco’s trash, will begin a pilot program under which it will use biodegradable bags and dog-waste carts to pick up droppings at a popular dog park.

    Next thing you know they will be harnessing the “friction” resulting from fella’s doin’ fellas!

  56. 1865

    Welcome to San Francisco!!!
    Powered by dog poop and cornholin’!!
    Let’s have a parade so we can get all swollen up with PRIDE over our progressive accomplishments!

  58. 1867

    52

    “What exactly do gays do special that distinguishes them from the rest of us”

    They get spit on, beaten up, murdered, and denied jobs, housing, and medical insurance by bigots like you.

  59. 1868

    Oink — p.s. — I’ve known enough gays personally to understand that people are born as homosexuals, it’s not a behavior they choose. Also, if you think it’s a lifestyle choice, maybe you could explain why homosexuality not only occurs in all human societies, but also in many species of the animal kingdom.

  60. 1869

    Oink! I yearn to relive our ecstatic encounter at Mr. Cynical’s horse property in Enuclaw.

    Showing your copy of the film Deliverance was a masterstoke!

    P.S.: Please bring RUFUS. Don’t pay any attention to Ken Mehlman.

  61. 1870

    Michael “Savage” Wiener is from S.F.

    I am sure he provides more than enough feces and “cornholin'” than Oink could ever need.

  62. 1871

    Richard Poop, now that Carter has made favorible remarks for the sale of US port security to U.A.E. (and by way to Bush and Cheney’s political cronies) I am sure the Troll’s will denounce it.

    Right?

    uh… right?

  63. 1872

    Goldy, thanks for promoting our new DL group here in Burien and we look forward to whenever you can stop by.

  64. 1873

    HEY ROGER FUCK YOU IM COLLECTING MY 4 CHECKS PER MONTH AND IM NOT A HAS BEEN LAWYER.I SEE YOUR STILL NOT BANGING THE OLD LADY TRY THE BLUE PILL IF THAT DONT WORK TAKE A HALF OF ONE AT LEAST THEN YOU WONT PISS ON YOUR FEET SEE YA ASSHOLE.

  65. 1874

    57

    “Oink- my you do have an obsession. Comment by K— 2/21/06 @ 6:08 pm”

    It’s been my experience that people obsessed with gays invariably are either latent or overt gays themselves.

  66. 1875

    Oink feels threatened because none of the girls like him but all of the boys do.

  67. 1876

    64

    “HEY ROGER FUCK YOU”

    Yes!! Yes!!! YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!! Roger Rabbit is a FUCKING MACHINE!!! It’s what God designed me for — MAKING MORE BUNNIES!!!!

    Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes

  68. 1877

    “HEY ROGER FUCK YOU”

    :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

  69. 1878

    I love the fact that Baby Bush is getting Bitch Slapped by members of his own party over this port deal. So much for being the “security” president. He’s selling us out to his Arab friends, you know, the ones he let out of the country while their countrymen were hijacking planes. It’s fun to watch this stupid fuck get beat up and exposed for his idiocy!

  72. 1881

    “What exactly do gays do special that distinguishes them from the rest of us”

    They get spit on, beaten up, murdered, and denied jobs, housing, and medical insurance by bigots like you.
    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 2/21/06 @ 6:18 pm

    So do white people numbnutz!!!

  73. 1882

    72, You are only “special” if you are a minority that votes Democrat. Note the Cubans in Florida. After seeing communism close up [“progressives”], they tend to vote Republican; therefore, they are ingored by the MSM.

  74. 1883

    They get spit on, beaten up, murdered, and denied jobs, housing, and medical insurance by bigots….
    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 2/21/06 @ 6:18 pm

    Sounds like how the left treats the military. Of course we need to add voting to the denied list.

  75. 1884

    73, cont…..Blacks vote Democrat at 115%; therefore, they are “special” and receive “special rights” [see O.J.] Never will blacks be held responsible for their actions [see Crips/Bloods] are long as their votes are needed by Democrats.

  76. 1885

    It’s interesting to note that RUFUS is like JCH.

    No one responds to them anymore.

    hmmmm….

  77. 1886

    Don @ 76

    To converse or debate requires interaction and at least a degrgee of respect. They offer only lies and stupidity and are best ignored.

  79. 1888

    After this fiasco, nobody should ever again take Bush’s national security rhetoric seriously.

    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 2/21/06 @ 2:05 pm

    You mean the UAE purchase of ports. Why would you libs care? Don’t tell me that you are profiling the UAE. Just like a donk, Hypocrites.

  82. 1891

    im•be•cile – noun, 1) person who repeatedly votes for Republicans under the misguided presumption that safety and security are top priorities. 2) One who forfeits freedom and democracy for the illusion of financial gain. 3) Someone who believes no atrocity has ever been committed, unless personally affected.

  83. 1892

    To paraphrse Jesus

    it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a Dick Cheney, G. W. Bush, or any NeoCon Asshole to enter the kingdom of God.

    Matthew 19:24.

  84. 1893

    re 75: Many crips and bloods are millionnaires. Are you a millionnaire?

  85. 1894

    We are the only life forms that exist in the universe.

    As far as we know.

    The most powerful person on the only planet with intelligent life (that we know of) is George W. Bush.

    Even that reality must make NeoCon Symps piss their pants.

    At least it should.

  86. 1895

    85

    If Republicans are the best life forms this universe can produce, there’s not much hope for the universe.

  87. 1896

    The purpose of the universe exploded.

    “Self – Annihilation” said Spock.
    “Shit Spock, That’s suicide!” said Kirk.
    Security, arrest us.

  88. 1897

    @ 53 Richard Pope reminds us that Jimmy Carter has supported the sell-off of US Ports to the U.A.E.

    Here is what President Carter said “”The overall threat to the United States and security, I don’t think it exists,” Carter said on CNN’s The Situation Room. “I’m sure the president’s done a good job with his subordinates to make sure this is not a threat.”

    Now the White House is saying that Bush had no idea the sell-off was even happening until after it was approved.

    The biggest mistake Carter made in his remarks was that he actually thought Bush was involved in any way with protecting the USA. Bush is only actively involved in DESTROYING the USA.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....s_security

  89. 1898

    DON YOUR IN THE SAME LEAUGE AS CARTERLOOOOOOOOOOOOOSER.WHAT A GREAT PRESIDENT HE WAS GIVES NEW MEANING TO THE DOPE.

  92. 1901

    Yo is such a dumb ass I wouldn’t even consider keeping him as one of my Blog Bitches. Like the way I keep JCH as my #1 Blog Bitch. MTR might be #2.

  93. 1902

    Yo, as bad as you think Carter was…..GWB will be written in history as the most inept president of all time. Get over it, your paid Chimp is the biggest LOOOOOOOOOSer in the history of the USA

  95. 1904

    GBS, you should consider ‘oink’ for one of your blog bitch consorts. He was the roll model for the movie Deliverance……..’squeal like a pig’.

  96. 1905

    Drivel:

    Did you know that Oink is actually Mr. Cynical (aka Ms Chickenhawk)?

    Yep, he’s baaaaack, just a new pen name.

    And, Mr. Cynical (aka Ms Chickenhawk) is one of my Blog Bitches. He’s not fooling anyone.

    PS: You’re right about the “squeal like a pig.”

  97. 1906

    everyone know oink is cynnical..lol…with his BIAW writing style and sharp witt (NOT) how could you miss him/her/it?

Drinking Liberally?

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Our fearless leader, Nick, sent out an email earlier today saying tonight’s gathering was cancelled due to Valentine’s Day, but really… screw Hallmark.

Personally, I can’t think of anything more romantic than downing an ice cold beer as Carl says nice things about my ass. So please join me, Carl “you’ve got a nice ass” Ballard, Jim from McCranium (visiting from the Tri-Cities,) and anybody else who has nothing better to do, for “Loser’s Night” at Drinking Liberally.

Comments

  1. 1907

    Al Franken will be there to announce he’e running for the Senate seat in Minnesota. That should be good for a few laughs. O’Reilly will be there to kick Franken’s ass and bitch-slap Donnie Deutch into submission.

  3. 1909

    This Paul Hackett thing is serious. The Democratic leadership apparently doesn’t get it. The Democrats are viewed as a party that stands for nothing, but they proved everyone wrong! They stand for something: the same old-boy network and cronyism that the Republicans stand for.

    I hate to say this more than you know, but if Paul Hackett were black, they would not have done this.

  4. 1910

    @ 3

    I feel somewhat the same way yoiu do, but I disagree with your “if he were black anaology.” The reality is Paul Hackett is not raising the same amount of cash by a 2:1 or 3:1 margin. The sad truth is many times the person who raises the most cash wins. Diebold issues aside.

    I think Paul Hackett has a future in the Democratic party and he should look at a congerssional seat in ’06 instead.

  6. 1912

    I saw a piece on one of those cable channels where O’Reilly, Molly Ivins (SP?), and Franken were all hyping their indvidual books. It was a big promo for the publishers.

    Franken attacked O’Reilly and Fox News pretty nastily, and O’Reilly sat there quietly and took the abuse. When Franken was finished with his rant, O’Reilly started to speak, but Franken kept sniping at him as he sat with Molly Ivins between him and O’Reilly. O’Reilly took about 15 second of this sniping, and turned to Franken and said, “Shut up, Franker! You’ve had your chance!”

    You might imagine Franken would have kept up his childish behavior, but he nearly pissed his pants when O’Reilly glared at him. I believe Franken was genuinely afraid that O’Reilly was going to literally kick his butt right there in front of God and everybody.

    So, GSB, O’Reilly wouldn’t use a falafel to kick Franker’s ass: he’d use his size-12 brogans to do the trick!

  8. 1914

    Belltowner @5,

    Probably no podcast. The guys with the equipment actually have dates. (Unintentional double entendre there.) I guess if they strike out, maybe we’ll get to do a show.

  9. 1915

    Goldy, you bet you’re a loser. You are not excused from performing volunteer work, even on Valentine’s Day.

  10. 1916

    Yossarian @ 6

    “O’Reilly took about 15 second of this sniping, and turned to Franken and said, “Shut up, Franker! You’ve had your chance!”

    You might imagine Franken would have kept up his childish behavior, but he nearly pissed his pants when O’Reilly glared at him. I believe Franken was genuinely afraid that O’Reilly was going to literally kick his butt right there in front of God and everybody.”

    Ummm…my guess is that Franken’s reaction was from O’Reilly’s falafel breath. Somebody out to wash O’Reilly’s mouth out with soap and loofah!

  11. 1917

    dj – Let me remind you that Franken spent a long time attacking O’Reilly and Fox News before it was O’Reill’s turn to speak. When Franken tried on numerous occasions to interrupt O’Reilly, Bill told hime to shut up. The fear in Franken’s eyes was striking. He was scared shitless! After O’Reilly confronted him, he kept quiet just like a good little boy should.

  12. 1918

    Seeing Bill O’Reilly scare the piss out of Al Franken….priceless!

    To buys Bill’s books there’s MasterCard. And American Express. And Visa…

  14. 1920

    Will Dick Cheney be there to hunt rabbits?

    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 2/14/06 @ 4:38 pm

    +

    I certainly hope so!

  15. 1921

    7

    “I’m surprised Roger Rabbit hasn’t chimed in with his usual waste of text. Comment by Yossarian— 2/14/06 @ 3:46 pm”

    I tried to, but you had already used up all the bytes.

  17. 1923

    Yossarian @ 11

    “Let me remind you that Franken spent a long time attacking O’Reilly and Fox News before it was O’Reill’s turn to speak. When Franken tried on numerous occasions to interrupt O’Reilly, Bill told hime to shut up. The fear in Franken’s eyes was striking.”

    Yes…well, clearly, you have never smelled the breath of Bill “Falafel-breath” O’Reilly! If you had, you would understand Franken’s fear (anything to keep Falafel-breath from turning toward him and opening his mouth).

    I’m telling ya…soap and Loofah are needed…big time!

  18. 1924

    9

    Hey Luigi was that you I saw picking up trash along State Route 2 under the watchful eyes of the correctional officer with the shotgun?

  19. 1925

    Roger Rabbit rarely appears at DL because there might be Republicans hunting nearby.

  20. 1926

    I notice Stefan hasn’t posted anything on his sucky little blog about Cheney blowing away his hunting partner … he’s still ranting about Dean Logan.

  22. 1928

    Capt. Yossarian ~ or who ever you imagine you are:

    You know, Al Franken isn’t known for being a bully or one to get into fistacuffs. Honestly, I think Bill would probably win a fight between the two.

    But I’ll say this: if I were in the audience and Bill went after Al, Bill had better hope his dental insurance is current. Because he’d need extensive dental surgery to put that mug back together.

    Hannity, too. Along Limbaugh, Savage (aka Weiner), Wilbur, Carlson, Medved and whoever else spews conservative bullshit for a living.

  23. 1929

    Roger and Gang news from the Middle East. Dr. E. your friends have a few words to say about the war in Iraq.

    http://english.aljazeera.net/N.....F72BC5.htm

    US and British occupation of Iraq is regarded as the re-emergence of the old colonialist practices of the western empires in some quarters. The real ambitions underlying the brutal onslaught are still highly questionable – and then there are the blatant lies over weapons of mass destruction originally used to justify the war. There were no great victory marches by the occupiers, nor were they thrown garlands of flowers and greeted in triumph. More US soldiers have died in Iraq since George Bush declared an end to the war on 1 May 2003 prompting the question: Will Iraq turn into a new Vietnam eventually bringing the US to its senses … or perhaps to its knees?

    Iraq’s history, and along with it that of the Arab Muslim world, speaks of several similar encounters. In the past, enemies attacked from East and West before they were swallowed by the moving sands of the region, or forced to retreat, leaving behind a phoenix-like people who adore life and still accept to die for their freedom.

    The escalating Iraqi resistance seems to be setting the stage for another act which might usher in a new Arab World or set the clock ticking for the end of yet another empire.

  26. 1932

    GBS..Because he’d need extensive dental surgery to put that mug back together.

    Only because your buddy Osama gave you an AK47 and a box cutter for Valentines Day.

    You and Ann Coulter – two birds of a feather….

  27. 1933

    Hey klake, are the Iraqis strewing flower petals in the path of their American liberators?

  29. 1935

    Klake @ 23 writes:

    “Roger and Gang news from the Middle East…”

    And then he points to the abstract of a special report???? What an idiot!

  30. 1936

    Another lawyer running out in front of the pellets. I’m
    surprised it wasn’t a democrat lawyer as dumb as they are.
    Goldy, the pellet is not lodged in his heart, it lodged alongside
    his heart, causing an irritation which caused the problem.
    Not really a heart attack in the traditional sense. All blown
    out of proportion by the media.

  32. 1938

    WASHINGTON – Waste and fraud marked the federal government’s assistance programs for Hurricane Katrina victims, with 10,000 mobile homes going unused and scattered cases of evacuees spending emergency money on nude dancing in Houston, tattoos, casino gambling and a diamond engagement ring, according to an audit released Monday. [Let’s agree to kill all those who committed fraud again FEMA. Results: 3000 less Democrat votes]

  33. 1939

    lower case mark the quack cardiologist @ 30

    “Goldy, the pellet is not lodged in his heart, it lodged alongside
    his heart”

    Oh???? Is that your long distance diagnosis? Well, according to his physicians (you know…the guys actually there, looking at xrays and
    doing the cardiac catheterization):

    “The shot was either touching or embedded in the heart muscle near the top chambers….”

    Mark, you and Frist ought to team up, buy a ouija board and go into business.

  34. 1940

    Tattoos, hookers, nude dancing, Guess jeans, and 52 inch Sony plasma TV sets. Looks like the black New Orleans Democrats scored!! Bush, keep the cash flowing to “The Big Easy” or you are racist! [hehe]

  36. 1942

    Weak oversight at FEMA contributed to the amount of criminal fraud that occurred in the aftermath of hurricanes Katrina and Rita, officials said.

    About 200 people have been charged with hurricane-related fraud crimes, said Alice Fisher, head of the Justice Department’s anti-fraud task force.

    Kutz described a case in which eight people used 30 different Social Security numbers to receive a total of $92,000 from FEMA, supposedly to help them repair damaged property in Texas. [Jesse Jackson will be on hand to ensure that all 200 Democrat felons get to vote!]

  37. 1943

    Wealth envy is usually an excuse-making or defensive mechanism for those who have failed to become what they would consider to be “rich.” These people can’t understand why this is so. After all, they’re good people aren’t they? And they work just as hard as anyone else does! Yet they’re not wealthy! It can’t be them! It must be the other guy! So, they take comfort in believing that wealthy people must have acquired their wealth through dishonest means. By cheating people, exploiting people, and by using crooked lawyers. The real problem with this, other than the fact that it simply isn’t true, is that the person who develops this wealth-hatred is really programming himself or herself to remain in their present economic situation. If you have convinced yourself that to become wealthy is a bad thing, then why in the world would your subconscious mind ever allow you to make the decisions or take the actions that would lead to wealth? [GBS, Is this not the story of your life?????? Is this not the “guiding light” of the Democrat Marxist Party?]

  38. 1944

    GBS is pissy because he stupidly put all his marbles in 5500 shares of Red Hat. It closed today @ $26.30 and is dropping like a rock.
    Those of us who are astute:
    a) Would never put all our marbles in one stock…especially that one.
    b) Were smart enough to get out at $30/share.

    GBS is one of the few Lefty’s to have the guts to risk anything…
    But that doesn’t make him any less stupid.

  39. 1945

    Greetings from the Tri-Cities. Whatcha doin’ over there, Jimmie? I bet my loser table is smaller than yours.

  40. 1946

    Yossarian,

    You really are ignorant. That particular Franken-O’Reilly book fair slugfest took place over a year ago, and Franken opened mr. spin up like a cheap suitcase.

    Keep dreaming.

  41. 1947

    @ 36

    Weak oversight by FEMA- Gee think that has anything to do with gutting the agency?

    And let’s compare the petty crime of the poor with the wholesale looting by ENRON et al.

  42. 1948

    JCH 37 – YOu hit the nail on the head. Other people’s success just reminds them what miserable failures they are… how they fucked up their lives through their own stupid choices. That some people could actually get smart, work hard and be successful the old fashioned way doesn’t even enter their minds. They simply refuse to believe it because they have to… because otherwise they’d have to admit to themselves that they’re dumasses and their lot is the result of their stupidity, laziness and lack of character. Those same traits also make them libruls.

  43. 1949

    CONCORD, N.H. — A jury on Friday said Southwest Airlines did not racially discriminate against a black woman when she was asked to buy a second seat on a plane because of her size. The jury deliberated for a little over an hour before finding against Nadine Thompson, who sued Southwest in federal court. [How could a black women with a couple Jewish lawyers lose? She Should refile in Detroit or Harare so the jury will be black. Then she [and her Jewish lawyers] will OWN Sounthwest Airlines!]

  44. 1950

    Withheld Information, Clinton Division (partial list):
    [Hillary on VP’s Withholding Medical Info for 12 hours:]
    Juanita Broaddrick rape
    Paula Jones assault
    Whitewater Docs
    Rose Law Firm Billing Records
    Webb Hubbell payments
    FBI Files
    Midnight Presidential Pardons
    Chinese campaign contributions
    Whie House Travel Office
    Kathleen Willey

    well, even GBS should get the idea. .

  45. 1951

    Flashback…CNN All Politics, Aug. 27, 1996

    WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, Aug. 27) — The same day Hillary Clinton was scheduled to speak at the Democratic National Convention, newly released documents suggest she was behind the 30-hour delay in releasing late White House counsel Vincent Foster’s suicide note to authorities.
    How the White House handled Foster’s 1993 death, and the possibility that administration officials improperly removed documents from his office or impeded an official search of it, has been the subject of intense scrutiny by congressional Republicans and the media.

  46. 1952

    And before you moonbats start repeating lies….

    Bubba was impeached and disabarred because he lied to a grand just in connection with a felony assault case that he settled for $800k.
    It had nothing to do with ML and BJs.

  48. 1954

    Top Ten Dick Cheney Excuses

    10. “Heart palpitation caused trigger finger to spasm”

    9. “Wanted to get the Iraq mess off the front page”

    8. “Not enough Jim Beam”

    7. “Trying to stop the spread of bird flu”

    6. “I love to shoot people”

    5. “Guy was making cracks about my lesbian daughter”

    4. “I thought the guy was trying to go ‘gay cowboy’ on me”

    3. “Excuse? I hit him, didn’t I?”

    2. “Until Democrats approve medicare reform, we have to make some tough choices for the elderly”

    1. “Made a bet with Gretzky’s wife

  49. 1955

    This is the kind of shit this administration has caused to happen that really pisses me off. I’m wondering if you ‘Pugs could really be proud of this kind of shit.

  51. 1957

    Oh, I know, I’m sure that all those prisoners we tortured at Abu Ghraib were actually “terrorists”. How do I know? Dickie “Chest Shot” Cheney told me so, and we’ve gotta believe everything that asshole says.

  54. 1960

    Now I have heard everything from the Queen:

    I have never raised taxes on the people of the state of washington!

    All of us would like to give the people of this state a tax break!

    and now

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

    Can’t afford it after giving out all those massive raises I guess!

  55. 1961

    Doctor Bong – Would it be better or worse to show videos of them getting their heads cut off with a dull knife while some fucking raghead chants “Allah is Great”.

    Asshole…

  56. 1962

    heh Roger

    So if Dick Cheney shoots a lawyer. How is this a bad thing?

    It’s not.

    Just try to think of it as a bold first move towards tort reform.

  57. 1963

    Attorneys should be fair game, they are surely not an endangered species!

    Imagine what we could save in government pensions if we just declared open season on them?

  58. 1964

    Redneck Shithead: Some of the prisoners in those pictures are dead. Aren’t we supposed to be Murka the great? No harm without due process and all? And you think everyone who was taken to Abu Ghraib was guilty because some Murkan military squad picked them up?

    You’re such a f*cking total delusional asshole!

  59. 1965

    36

    “About 200 people have been charged with hurricane-related fraud crimes, said Alice Fisher, head of the Justice Department’s anti-fraud task force.”

    Is Dick Cheney one of them?

  60. 1966

    54

    “Can’t afford it after giving out all those massive raises I guess!
    Comment by GS— 2/14/06 @ 10:57 pm”

    Are you referring to the 3.2% that state employees got for the six years from 2001 to 2007?

  61. 1967

    56

    “heh Roger So if Dick Cheney shoots a lawyer. How is this a bad thing? It’s not. Just try to think of it as a bold first move towards tort reform. Comment by GS— 2/14/06 @ 11:47 pm”

    I agree, our pocketbooks will be safer if Cheney kills all of those rich Republican lawyers.

  62. 1968

    So Bob-
    Gittin back to you once again…
    Are you one of them “gay” guys who gets all dressed up in his chaps with his ass hangin’ out and marches in that there parade where ya celebrate how proud ya are to lick other guys and take turns givin’ and takin’ boners in yer hinder?
    I heard a good one Bob. I heard the other day that you fellers want to be able to marry another fella. Sonofabitch! Where is it all gonna end!
    Now some fella here by the name of Roger Rabbit says that – “gay” is a human who has sex with another human of the same sex. “Bestiality” is what you do when you suck my dick!
    So fellas given hummers or layin’ a little pipe up the old Hershey Highway to fellas and gals muff-divin’ gals is somethin’ to celebrate and have parades for? This is soooooooooo difficult to comprehend. I guess whatever floats yer boat. I question even more the folks who aren’t one of them there Gays or Lesbians gettin’ so worked up about celebratin’ this type of lewd conduct too. That is really weird, ain’t it!
    It also don’t seem too smart or too excitin’ thinkin’ about suckin’ some Rabbit’s pecker. Hell, I never even seed a Rabbit’s pecker before. But I kinnot imagine it’s all that much.
    Yep, Seattle has entered that faraway place known as The Twilight Zone.
    Can you imagine the Good Lord lookin’ down on all this type of activity and sayin’ “I am so pleased”?

  63. 1969

    Oink – your interest in the sex life of other people is very Arkansas inbred low life asshole key hole peeking.

    Get your own sex life working, will serve you better. You have a puter – spend a few bucks at porn sites, will help you a lot I think. Sounds like your shool system failed you in prohibiting any sex ed. A caring partner can help, either male or female. Just be honest about how little you know — for you, so butt ugly as the old saying goes, this might be the ideal pick up line.

    There are as many gay and lesbian folk in Arkie Land as Seattle. You just were never invited to their parties.

    Get a life you fucking pig like idiot.

    As for God – do you really think your post are God-like?

    And you sound a lot like Mr C — something about your obsession to peek into the bedroom of others. Talk to even a entry level social worker – they can help you with the internal demons.

  64. 1970

    Bob–
    Now you really got me curious…what’s a “caring Partner”?
    I have some buddies that cared enough about me to help me build a fence….and a deck.
    But none of us got so carried away that we wanted to bunghole each other or suck each others dicks!
    As far staying out of other people’s bedrooms, I agree partner….errr I best be careful with that politically corrected word, huh Bob?? I agree Bob.
    So why are the Gays & Lesbians the ones who are makin’ such a big deal about themselves with parades, organizations, newsletters, websites etc. etc. if all they want is to be left alone?
    Seems to me you folks is goin’ way outta yer way to put a spotlight on yerselfs and them ya get all pissy when folks start askin’ ya questions.
    I got an idea Bob…if ya want to be left alone, why don’t you tell all your gay buddies, partners whatever just to SHUT THE FUCK UP!
    Life would be less stressful for you and the rest of us.
    I promise not to look into yer bedroom if you promise not to jam yer bedroom in my face every day Bob.

  65. 1971

    “Doctor Bong – Would it be better or worse to show videos of them getting their heads cut off with a dull knife while some fucking raghead chants “Allah is Great”.

    Asshole…”

    Hey, thanks a lot, Mark. You showed your true colors.

    I’m just wondering how long it took you to type that little fascist blurb with your right arm extended up at a 45-degree angle.

  66. 1972

    By the way, Mark, to logically refute your argument takes almost no effort, because you haven’t really posted anything better than a straw man. Go ahead and argue my main point, which I’ll elaborate on here: that these GOP thugs in office are a bunch of fascist, war-mongering, murderous criminals who have repeatedly violated both domestic and international law.

  67. 1973

    And one more thing: do you think those “fucking raghead[s]” with “dull knives” are cutting off heads completely unprovoked? You claim to have scientific inclinations. Look at the empirical evidence: how many such executions occurred prior to the US invasion of Iraq, as compared to how many have occurred since?

  68. 1974

    Oink – glad to see you’re keeping up tradition of the looney tune whacko sh*t for brains who come here from (un)SP.

  69. 1975

    Clueless-
    I just astounded that folks who claim to be gay or lesbian cannot give a simple explanation of what those terms mean, what they like to do and why. How are those unreasonable questions?
    I mean these folks have parades and all kinds of events to draw attention to themselves.
    And I truly do understand what it’s like to have a buddy from the same gender. It’s just that I don’t particular feel compelled to suck on his wanker or feel it in my hind-end. Plus I simply don’t know that it is somethin’ to be particularly “PROUD” of. Do you?
    Are you one of them gay guys too Clueless.
    If so, maybe you can splain it.
    It not, why in the samhill are you so inclined to celebrate it?
    Maybe some gay fellas don’t suck, get suck, poke their weiner where it don’t belong or get poke by someone elses?
    When I took Biology, they taught us that the rectum was an EXIT orifice. Precisely what date did that change?
    Maybe we need a new National Holiday….Gay Day. To celebrate the first gay butt poke. What the hell…another day off fer guv’mint werkers.
    Hallmark would have a field day with Gay Day cards.
    Hell clueless, you me can pardner up….if you promise not to look at me all dreamy eyed with yer boner in yer hand.

  70. 1976

    Careful Goldy…….

    You’re trying to “mislead” your readers again.

    (latest poll numbers)
    1. Do you approve or disapprove of Governor Christine Gregoire’s job performance?
    Approve 38%
    Disapprove 54%
    Undecided 8%
    2. Do you approve or disapprove of the State Legislature’s job performance?
    Approve 45%
    Disapprove 46%
    Undecided 9%
    8. If the Election for Governor in 2008 was between the Democrat Christine Gregoire and the Republican, Dino Rossi, whom would you vote for?
    Dino Rossi 55%
    Christine Gregoire 35%
    Undecided 10%
    10. Are you confident that Washington has overcome the problems that hindered the 2004 Election and that there will be no problems with the 2006 Election?
    Yes 16%
    No 71%
    Undecided 13%
    12. Do you think Washington is headed in the right direction or the wrong direction?
    Right 30%
    Wrong 55%
    Undecided 15%
    14. Do you approve or disapprove of Senator Patty Murray’s job performance?
    Approve 54%
    Disapprove 30%
    Undecided 16%
    15. Do you approve or disapprove of Senator Maria Cantwell’s job performance?
    Approve 47%
    Disapprove 35%
    Undecided 18%
    16. If the election for United States Senate were held today and the candidates were Maria Cantwell, the Democrat or Mike McGavick, the Republican, whom would you vote for?
    Maria Cantwell 48%
    Mike McGavick 40%
    Undecided 12%
    http://www.strategicvision.biz.....021506.htm

  71. 1977

    Proud to be an Ass – O’Reilly kicked Franken’s little whiney ass you f*cking dolt! Franken is a miserable excuse for a man. He nearly crapped his pants when O’Reilly told him to shut up!

    If you can’t see that, you must be a f*cking idiot.

  73. 1979

    OINK @ 38 — I mean Ms Chickenhawk:

    What makes you think I lost money on RHAT? Go back and re-read those post Mr. Cynical. You’ll see I posted an entry price, the one you quoted above and a 7% trailing stop.

    That one trade alone blew away your yearly gain of 8%.

    Welcome back.

    Loser.

  74. 1980

    LT. WAHSOUT @ 37:

    I will never, be jealous or envious of a WASHOUT. I’m not rich, but neither am I poor.

    But I’ll always have something you can never, ever attain in your life no matter how much wealth you have. And that is knowing I am superior man to you. I am physically tougher, and definetly metally stornger than you. I can endure tests of the mind, body and spirit on levels you cannot imagine.

    For christ sake, JCH, you WASHED-OUT of the Naval Avaiation program before you could fly, as you admitted.

    You know what that means? You WASHED-OOUT of fucking GROUND SCHOOL!

  75. 1981

    Clarice:

    Hang around though. I want to hear your story of failure.

    I know why you failed ground school. You lack attention to detail.

    It was recognized early in the program. As you now know, the Navy had developed methods of recognizing those who cannot complete the program.

    We called it “Weeding the weaklings.”

    The Navy didn’t want to spend millions of dollars training you to get a “seat in the fleet” on an F-14, just to have you not pay attention to that flashing “blip” on the radar screen that represents a bandit in your six.

    “Da, splash one Ameiri-kan boogie!” The words of a MiG pilot reporting the downing of an American fighter pilot, LT JCH.

    That’s why you WASHED-OUT! WEAKLING!

  76. 1982

    Rake face @ 46:

    Then Scooter Libby is in big ass trouble isn’t he?

    And, Dick Cheney told him to leak Top Secret National Defense information, didn’t he?

    Hey, I’m glad you’re back now. JCH is a WASHOUT and it was getting boring beating up on a chump like him 24/7.

    For old times sake, make me laugh. . . tell the story how McDermott violated the 4th amendment.

    Baaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa

    Tell us how you spent over $500,000 on vagimony.

    Baaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa

    Tell us again, how does a “wealthy” man like you lose your only child to a coke whore?

    Baaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa Haaa

    Ahhhh, God, you three shits are too, too funny.

    MTR, Mr. Cynical (aka Ms Chickenhawe, aka Oink) and my newest punching bag JCH (aka Clarice)

    Thanks. How was the Hill Billy New Year Ho-down at the double wide.

  77. 1983

    HEY RABBIT I WAS IN SEATTLE TODAY AND SAW YOU WITH THE WIFE I THINK YOU WERE THE ONE WITH THE SIGN WILL WORK FOR FOOD AND THE WIFE WAS THE ONE THAT HAD THE LINE.

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Comments

  1. 1984

    Good stuff out there on

    Emergency declaration by House on Geoduck and Beer commission (aka abuse of the statute)

    Also Jean Godden on the City council wanting to shut down further oversight of the energy… Will they hire Heidi (waste money) Wills?

  3. 1986

    Goldy, skip the drinking and idle chatter. Instead, go do something of real value like volunteer work. Be like Stefan.

  4. 1987

    Luigi,

    Don’t you get it.

    Goldy does not help people, nor does he care about anyone other than himself.

    This site is aboout:
    Bitching about Bush
    Bitching about Tim Eyman
    Bitching about Dino Rossi
    Taking credit for lots of things…

    That’s really it in a nutshell.

    You’d think Goldy would spend time trying to be a good father and earn some money for his family.

  6. 1989

    Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL due to traffic problems caused by crowds of admiring fans, papparazzi, process servers, and GOP spies trying to get RR’s photo and ID him.

  8. 1991

    Sorry,

    the site also gives Roger rRbbit a purpose in life other than cashing his governemnet check and collecting foods stamps.

  9. 1992

    4

    “You’d think Goldy would spend time trying to be a good father and earn some money for his family.”

    Apparently YOU don’t have anything better to do than bitch about Goldy’s bitching … does BIAW pay you by the word, or by the hour?

  10. 1993

    3

    Luigi why don’t you, Juan, Kevin, and the rest of the America-hating trollfucks do something of real value, i.e. jump off the Aurora Bridge. Fuck you and your ilk.

  12. 1995

    8

    what government check? what food stamps? do I get a government check? do I get food stamps? where are they? All I get is MY MONEY that was withheld from my paychecks. Hey Juan question for ya man, why are all Republicans such fucking liars?

  14. 1997

    Hey — question for you trollfucks — did you America-hating nazi scumbags hear about this?

    “Fitzgerald … said in a letter to Libby’s lawyers that many e-mails from Cheney’s office at the time of the Plame leak in 2003 have been deleted contrary to White House policy.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new.....8749c.html

    So I guess we can add obstruction of justice to the treason charges, hey?

  17. 2000

    ATTENTION PROGRESSIVES!

    One of my progressive friends forwarded the following e-mail to me:

    “Yesterday I read that the potential to shift the Senate is possible this year. That means we can’t give up Cantwell.”

    Never mind who wrote it, that doesn’t matter. The writer’s point is what matters … are you listening, my friends? This is NOT the time to worry about the finer points of Cantwell’s voting records — hey, nobody’s perfect — but this IS the time to ask yourselves, “if I hold out for someone more progressive than Cantwell, and she loses as a result, and the GOP ends up with a 1-vote majority in the Senate, how will I feel about what I did?”

  18. 2001

    Forget it RR, she is done.

    Cantwell has a tough battle on hers hands and democrats cannot make up their mind on anything…..

  20. 2003

    Kevin Carns aka Juan aka Luigi aka Ricky @all:

    Hey Kevin how’s tricks at BIAW? Turning any? Are you a 5-cent-a-word whore or a 10-cent-a-word whore?

  21. 2004

    Roger…

    Are you surronded by “they and them”?

    You may want to visit someone about your conspiracy issues.

  22. 2005

    Drink and drive? Have 5 or 6 at drinking Liberally? Have a little fender bender? Kill a 12 year old? Well, call Rosenberg and Lowenstein! We are there for you! By the time we get finished, the jury will believe Bush and Laura were driving! Hell, if lawyers can get drunk Teddy off for killing Mary Jo, so can we!!

  23. 2006

    Any Mexican illegals out there without a valid ID, DL, or auto insurance? Call us, and we’ll have you legal, driving, and registered to vote Democrat in the NOV 06 election! Rosenberg and Lowenstein! Muchos “guvment” money for you!

  24. 2007

    Dear Mexicans, Having your 8th free kid at LA General? Did a staff member “dis” you? Well, it’s time for lawsuits, big money, and driving those damn Republican doctors and hospitals right out of Kalifornia. Call us!

  25. 2008

    13

    “when was a pers one retirment plan, your money?”

    Kevin, you don’t know much about PERS 1, do you? Here’s some basic facts for you.

    1. PERS 1 employees have 6% withheld from their paychecks for their entire working careers (in additon to FICA, income taxes, L & I, and health care insurance).
    2. That money is held by the state pension fund and earns interest.
    3. When the employee retirees, his/her contributions to PERS are drawn down first, then interest, and only if the employee outlives his/her contributions + interest does he/she receive any money from the employer contribution.
    4. If the employee dies before receiving all of the employee’s contributions + interest, the employee’s designated beneficiary receives a refund of the balance. In other words, the law and the pension fund treat the employee’s contributions + interest as the employee’s property.
    5. No refund of employer contributions is ever made to the employee, the employee’s estate, or the employee’s beneficiary. The law and the pension system treat employer contributions as state property, and when the employee dies, that money reverts to the state.

    The bottom line is, a PERS 1 retiree receives state money (i.e., employer contribution) ONLY if the retiree outlives his/her own contributions + interest — which, in my case, won’t occur for a number of years yet.

  26. 2009

    In other words, you are receiving a state pension + govt check = you don’t deserve a dime

  27. 2010

    So … could I receive a state-paid pension some day? Theoretically, yes. But to say I receive government money NOW is just plain a LIE. I’m getting MY OWN MONEY and will continue to do so for a number of years into the future. It’ll be a while, if ever, before I see a dime of government money.

  32. 2015

    state pension + government check?? WTF are you talking about? I get only one check.

  36. 2019

    This has to be the most entertaining line of questions/statements I have read in at least, oh, ten minutes.
    Mr. Rabbit: I don’t even have words to describe how your constant ranting about Kevin Carns reminds me so much of the anti-Karl Rove ranting done by you and your friends during spring, summer and then fall of 2004. Keep it up. It cracks me up to read such things about my good friend Kevin.
    Juan, if you really are Kevin, congratulations, as usual, on your witty/terse comments. Your ability to keep your cool and allow these ravenous liberal dogs to fumble about like the impotent, mindless blobs they are, is always an inspiration. (Impotent referring to they’re inability to make a concise, thought-provoking argument, not their lack of sexual satisfaction. Although, now that I think of it, perhaps the two are somehow connected…)

  37. 2020

    34, 35

    Yeah, he can’t tell which part is my ass, and which part is my cute fluffy cottontail! )o(

  41. 2024

    I’m not deprived, I’m just trying to find out whether you’re a cheap trick or an expensive trick.

  42. 2025

    In other news —- In responding to charges that Mexican troops have been violating our borders, the Mexican Govt said “Wasn’t us.” This was apparently good enough for Dept of Homeland Security who said “Oh, okay.”

  43. 2026

    Roger, Do you want my firm to sue the trolls who are making fun of you? Are you black? Mexican? American Indian? [Our firm is very selective, and we only represent Democrat “minorities”.]

  44. 2027

    Does anyone know where Kevin Carns lives? I’d like to have a “little chat” with him and find out if he really is our favorite stupid homophobic racist troll JCH.

    Oh, once again, JCH – say that anti semitic shit to my face.

    Rethugs – gutless mamma’s boy punks who hide behind anonymous screen names.

  45. 2028

    PS – Goldy won’t want to be a party to it, but I will reveal my identity to any of these right-wing racist fucks who will do the same.

    I’ve got nothing to hide, and from the racist drivel I see these punks spout from the safety of their mommy’s basement, nothing to fear.

  46. 2029

    45, Mr. X, “Hate” crime! Mo Dees will be our firm’s referral to file. Prepare for depositions! We will need to take your home. Saul and Hymie

  47. 2030

    The moment of truth has arrived. Almost 6 months after Hurricane Katrina…FEMA is going to stop paying the hotel bills of evacuees, starting today. But this is just the first round of evictions. There are 20,000 hotel rooms being occupied in 40 states that won’t have to be out until either February 13th or March 1st. Must be nice.

    And just how much is all of this costing? $522 million. Over half a billion bucks. But 6 months isn’t enough for some folks. Attorneys are already pushing a class-action lawsuit, claiming the evictions will cause mass homelessness. Poor babies. Perhaps now these “evacuees” will actually….I don’t know…maybe GET A JOB. You know, and pay for their own housing…like the rest of us. [If any of you HA posters are living in a FEMA hotel, please call Rosenberg and Lowenstein! Mr. X! You too!]

  48. 2031

    Hate to break it to ya, you racist piece of shit, but racist white boys aren’t a protected class – so I’d say your hate speech argument ain’t gonna cut it.

    Gutless and brainless is no way to go through life – I’d suggest suicide.

  49. 2032

    “Impotent referring to they’re [sic] inability to make a concise, thought-provoking argument, not their lack of sexual satisfaction.”

    Hey momma — here’s a concise, though-provoking assertion for you:
    The strategies and rhetoric of the Bush administration is fascist. Their agenda, if not totalitarian in bent, is also–in many ways–essentially fascist.

    Note how I’m not arguing that they are fascist, though.

    Want an argument? Go ahead and prove my assertions wrong.

  51. 2034

    Gone for less than a week and the comment threads have really gone down the crapper.

    I guess I was the glue holding the place together.

    Comment by Dr. E— 2/7/06 @ 5:43 pm

    “The strategies and rhetoric of the Bush administration is fascist. Their agenda, if not totalitarian in bent, is also–in many ways–essentially fascist.

    Note how I’m not arguing that they are fascist, though. ”

    Seems to me like you are working pretty hard to call the Bush Administration fascists, without actually doing so.

  52. 2035

    “Seems to me like you are working pretty hard to call the Bush Administration fascists, without actually doing so.”

    Well, you’re wrong. There’s a reason why I’m asserting that the strategies, rhetoric, and many aspects of their agenda display characteristic hallmarks of fascism, but not saying specifically that “they” are fascists. There’s a semantic distinction there, and in my view a couple of simple, basic reasons for making such a distinction.

  53. 2036

    If you want evidence of threads going down the crapper, just look at what some of the freeper trolls have posted here today. You can start with #3 and 4, above, and work your way down.

  54. 2037

    43

    “Roger, Do you want my firm to sue the trolls who are making fun of you?”

    Can you get me $15 million, or do I have to be an insurance company exec to pull down that kind of loot?

    “Are you black?”

    Brown.

    “Mexican? American Indian?”

    No, I’m a Lagomorpha.

  55. 2038

    DrE@53 Goldy knows the cure for the ‘freeper trolls’ but has not implemented it. I am waiting. . . .

  56. 2039

    47

    I wonder how many of those people being evicted from hotels have rebuilt homes waiting for them? At the rate Halliburton and the other low-wage, high-profit, no-bid FEMA contractors are getting things done — probably none.

  57. 2040

    Hell, FEMA can’t even get a case of bottled water to disaster victims in a week’s time — not when Republicans run FEMA.

  58. 2041

    Another ‘cure’, which I rather like, but haven’t seen on any blogs is fairly easy to implement ( I am told), especially since Goldy tracks his posters IP addresses.

  59. 2042

    Comment on 53

    So what? If Kevin wants to make a public fool of himself, let him! I’m in favor of anything that makes BIAW look bad.

  60. 2043

    Hey Kevin — before I forget — can you explain how your washing machine works? I understand that when a $100 bill comes out the other side of the rollers it’s still a $100 bill, but I want to know what’s inside the rollers that changes the $100 bill from L & I taxes into Rossi slush funds!

  61. 2044

    One method is to set up a primary and a secondary html style sheet. If you are a ‘freeper’ or otherwise offensive poster your post can be diverted to the secondary style sheet. If you are truly dedicated to first amendment action, allow ALL posts. . .just have them expressed as “greyed out text”. Hell you could have the post get progressively lighter and fade out. It would make it simple to skip over offensive, off topic, or otherwist ‘inappropiate’ posts. If you really want to
    read these posts, just click on the ‘greyed out’ text. . .if you really must.

  62. 2045

    With a choice between normal text or greyed out text, scanning down through posts with content would be a breeze. If you wish to implement a community based ‘moding’ scheme, this would involve registering to post, which by itself would lessen trolling. . .and relieve the blogmeister of the obligation of picking and choosing who gets diverted to ‘grey-out’.

  63. 2046

    Hey Kevin – before I forget – can you explain how your washing machine works? I understand that when a $100 bill comes out the other side of the rollers it’s still a $100 bill, but I want to know what’s inside the rollers that changes the $100 bill from L & I taxes into Rossi slush funds!

    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 2/7/06 @ 6:16 pm

    Oh those. There are a ton of them at the union halls. Works great on turning union dues into liberal drivel. Hehehehe

  64. 2047

    Too many new cases here! Efffective 7 FEB 06 Rosenberg and Lowenstein will only be representing black Democrat “Tookie” murder felons who have been “dissed” by police! Please send money to help with our defense [Attention Saul, Hymie, Jules, and the ACLU].

  65. 2048

    I think the trolls are gonna be in for a hell of a surprise come November about how united Democrats are.

    Sorry losers, you had your chance at power and you squandered it on illegal wars, corruption, class warfare, killing soldiers and peeing on the constitution.

    Man, I hate you fuckers.

  67. 2050

    Sorry losers, you had your chance at power and you squandered it on illegal wars, corruption, class warfare, killing soldiers and peeing on the constitution.

    Man, I hate you fuckers.

    Comment by Donnageddon— 2/7/06 @ 7:10 pm

    I am going to love rubbing it Donna face when we get more Senators and reps in office in 06. As a recent presidential candidate once said, “Bring it on”

  68. 2051

    In other, other new — The Repugnants are up in arms about some of the comments at the Coretta Scott King funeral today…. Some of them dared to assert that the Kings would not approve of war… The Repugnants took this as an attack on the Chimpanzee in Chief..

  69. 2052

    There’s a semantic distinction there, and in my view a couple of simple, basic reasons for making such a distinction.

    Comment by Dr. E— 2/7/06 @ 6:05 pm

    Dr. E is this what you wanted to say?

    “Year’s end is the time for big thoughts, so here are mine. The most significant socio-political shift in our time has gone almost completely unremarked, and even unnoticed. It is the dramatic shift of the red-state bourgeoisie from leave-us-alone libertarianism, manifested in the Congressional elections of 1994, to almost totalitarian statist nationalism. Whereas the conservative middle class once cheered the circumscribing of the federal government, it now celebrates power and adores the central state, particularly its military wing. … What this implies for libertarians is a crying need to draw a clear separation between what we believe and what conservatives believe. It also requires that we face the reality of the current threat forthrightly by extending more rhetorical tolerance leftward and less rightward.”

    http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=4245

  70. 2053

    “I am going to love rubbing it [sic] Donna [sic] face when we get more Senators and reps [sic] in office in 06.”

    So we can assume, then, that, if your scenario plays itself out, you’ll be happy rubbing our noses in all the blood of all the dead soldiers killed in the illegal wars the Republicans continue to wage, all the corruption and class warfare the GOP continues to perpetuate, and the further disregard for the Constitution shown by the current administration. Right?

  71. 2054

    “Dr. E is this what you wanted to say?”

    No. I intended to say exactly what I said.

  72. 2055

    RUFUS stupidly said

    “As a recent presidential candidate once said, “Bring it on””

    Actually that was a sitting President. He said it in 2003 when warned that an insurgency was developing in Iraq, while his chickenhawk ass sat in Crawford Texas.

    Bush : Bring it on!

    Since then 2,000 soldiers have died.

    Man, I hate the fucker Bush. What an asshole.

  74. 2057

    So we can assume, then, that, if your scenario plays itself out, you’ll be happy rubbing our noses in all the blood of all the dead soldiers killed in the illegal wars the Republicans continue to wage, all the corruption and class warfare the GOP continues to perpetuate, and the further disregard for the Constitution shown by the current administration. Right?

    Comment by Dr. E— 2/7/06 @ 7:27 pm

    No, the left needs to deal with these delusions themselves.

  75. 2058

    If by “delusions” you mean, “the things being perpetuated by the Neocon fascists”

    Then, yes, RUFUS, the left will deal with it. And the perps will be imprisoned.

  76. 2059

    Sorry, RUFUS, those aren’t delusions, it’s the current reality that the Bush administration has created. Failure to see this reality for what it is the delusion of the Amreican political right.

  77. 2060

    Since then 2,000 soldiers have died.

    Man, I hate the fucker Bush. What an asshole.

    Comment by Donnageddon— 2/7/06 @ 7:46 pm

    God bless thte troops. I pay tribute to them everytime I vote republican. I know if they were alive they would vote the same way too.

  78. 2061

    I am also voting for those troops that are still alive. Being from King County we all know they dont count military votes anyway.

  79. 2062

    We Islam terrorists wish to thank Democrats named Leahy, Kennedy, and Clinton for respecting our rights! Abu

  80. 2063

    RUFUS @ 77 @ 78 That is so ironically sad.

    I hate your smug denial of reality, you sick fuck.

  83. 2066

    Kepp ’em coming JCH! You will have everyone voting Democrat before you are through.

  86. 2069

    Sadly, JCH 911 did happen, under Bush’s indiferrence. And since BushCo has stated that they did it “Because the hate our freedoms”, it appears the terrorists are winning.

    Bush = Terrorists win

  87. 2070

    JCH, it is ironic that you pretend to be a terrorist. You could just sign with your own name. It is really all the same.

  89. 2072

    RUFUS @ 77 @ 78 That is so ironically sad.

    I hate your smug denial of reality, you sick fuck.

    Comment by Donnageddon— 2/7/06 @ 8:32 pm

    OK Donna you got me. I forgot to mention that now that they are dead they make up a big part of the democratic base come election time. You satisfied now. Cant get anything over on Donna.

  90. 2073

    Comment by Dr. E— 2/7/06 @ 6:05 pm

    “Well, you’re wrong. There’s a reason why I’m asserting that the strategies, rhetoric, and many aspects of their agenda display characteristic hallmarks of fascism, but not saying specifically that “they” are fascists. There’s a semantic distinction there, and in my view a couple of simple, basic reasons for making such a distinction.”

    Does the semantic difference have anything to do with what the definition of the word “is” is?

    What are you specific reasons? Why don’t you just state them? Are you purposefully being vague and evasive?

  92. 2075

    No evasion here. BushCo and their chief strategist Karl Rove have studied every move in the fascist playbook. They despise democracy, and they have no respect for America. They would skin ConservativeFirst and his family in their own house if they felt it would help them keep power.

    They are masters of propaganda, and they are doing everything they can to dismantle the constitution.

    And you are just the pawns in their power play.

    Wake up.

  93. 2076

    Don, Kerry must win! He will be for terrorists before he is against us! Abu

  94. 2077

    JCH, the terrorists love Bush, just like you. Bush is the best thing that ever happened to them.

    Keep helping them, JCH. We will take care of you and your ilk when the dust settles.

  96. 2079

    JCH “Kerry must win! He will be for terrorists before he is against us!”

    Besides being an anachronism, it doesn’t even make sense.

    JCH, your mom is calling you. You are in luck! It’s macaroni and cheese night!

  98. 2081

    94, No, Allah, terrorists, and Don hate Bush! We spit on Bush! 9/11 was dream. It was not real! Abu

  99. 2082

    I know JCH is just an unemployed former Kinko’s worker in Kent, but it is funny to imajine him in Hawaii spending every day in a dark room posting on HA.org.

    It is terribly sad either way.

  104. 2087

    Ah, Abu is sure putting the charm on to those donks. He just might get that nuclear reactor yet.

  105. 2088

    Ruf, Thanks. Funny how Abu the Terrorist and the Dems sound alike!

  106. 2089

    JCH + RUFUS = SILLY FOOLS

    Playing the BIG LIE again. Ignoring reality. Military votes were counted in King County. That LIE has been put to bed. If Bush wanted to go after terrorism, shouldn’t he start with the country where they and their funding came from. Hint, that was not Iraq. It was GWB’s good buddies the Saudis. But he didn’t.

    If he respected the Constitition he would use the Courts which were set up and are available 24/7 to approve warrants. But he didn’t.

    If he respected the separation of powers established in our Constitution he would respect the laws the Congress passes (For goodness sake, his own party controls it). Instead he “reinterperts”.

    Talk about impeachable acts….

  107. 2090

    If Bush wanted to stop Iran’s nuclear program, he wouldn’t have squandered our influence on a war based on lies.

    There is no Iraq nexus to September 11.

  108. 2091

    Playing the BIG LIE again. Ignoring reality. Military votes were counted in King County. That LIE has been put to bed.

    Who said, the KCRE? Well you believe your cronies at KCRE and I will believe our fighting men and women

  111. 2094

    JCH- BIG LIAR. Of course September 11 happened, you asshole. And the pilots and funds came from Saudi Arabia.

  112. 2095

    Don, K, Bush must not attack Iran! Bush bad! Hillary good! Jane Fonda good! Abu

  115. 2098

    Talk about impeachable acts….

    Comment by K— 2/7/06 @ 9:17 pm [Yes! Bush bad! Abu]

  117. 2100

    I am also voting for those troops that are still alive. Being from King County we all know they dont count military votes anyway.

    Comment by RUFUS— 2/7/06 @ 8:17 pm

    amen!

  118. 2101

    Come on JCH, what about the Saudi connection?

    You seem to like to ignore facts for your silly games.

  119. 2102

    Show me proof on you allegations of military ballots. You had a trial.

    News flash- you LOST

  120. 2103

    Here’s one for you. Bush’s initial strategy, using the Northern Alliance to bring down the Taliban was exactly right. Why didn’t he finish the job?

  121. 2104

    If Bush is so concerned about the potential for nuclear terror, why ignore North Korea?

  122. 2105

    Show me proof on you allegations of military ballots. You had a trial.

    News flash- you LOST

    Comment by K— 2/7/06 @ 9:37 pm

    So what. They had a trial for OJ too. Dont tell me you think OJ was innocent. You got a lot to learn K.

  123. 2106

    Is breaking the law an impeachable act? How about this?

    In a letter to Congress last week, a group of 14 constitutional scholars and former government officials said that “FISA is not ambiguous on this subject, and therefore the constitutional avoidance doctrine does not apply.”

  124. 2107

    Quiz, who said this?

    “Well, that just defies logic and plain English.”

    Regarding the administration’s interpertation of FISA.

  127. 2110

    RUFUS- I have learned that you saying it don’t make it so.

    Comment by K— 2/7/06 @ 9:47 pm

    Yeah but I am not the one saying it, the soldiers are.

  128. 2111

    Got any sworn statements? Perhaps backed by evidence, maybe postmarks?

    I’ve seen allegations without basis.

  130. 2113

    Didn’t POS Al Gore send a few hundred Democrat Jewish lawyers to FL in 2000 to kick out as many military votes as possible?

  133. 2116

    “Does the semantic difference have anything to do with what the definition of the word “is” is?”
    No, and I’m not being evasive, either. There’s a difference, between fascist tendencies and policies, and the full implementation of a fascist form of government. We’re not there yet, and hopefully never will be, but the tendencies (rhetoric, etc.) and policies normally preceed the actual consolidation of power.

    That’s why we have to be so damn vigilant.

  134. 2117

    “If Bush is so concerned about the potential for nuclear terror, why ignore North Korea?”

    Because there ain’t no oil under their soil.

  136. 2119

    18

    “Forget it RR, she is done.

    Cantwell has a tough battle on hers hands … Comment by Juan Downs— 2/7/06 @ 3:56 pm”

    Uh … no. GOP pollster Strategic Vision reports,

    “15. If the election for United States Senate were held today and the candidates were Maria Cantwell, the Democrat or Mike McGavick, the Republican, whom would you vote for?
    Maria Cantwell 50%
    Mike McGavick 39%
    Undecided 11%”

    http://www.strategicvision.biz.....l_1207.htm

    Sure, the election is still months away, and that gap might close somewhat. But Cantwell is already over 50%, and McGavick? Hardly a people’s candidate.

    McGavick, recognizing he’s a long shot, is already running TV ads. The interesting thing about his ads is they don’t identify him as a Republican. I guess nobody wants to be known as a Republican these days, hey? The GOP label is poison! In voters’ minds, “GOP” stands for incompetence and corruption. No wonder McGavick doesn’t want anyone to know he’s running as a Republican!

    Hey Juan, I’ll give you even odds … nah, forget it, you Republican welshers don’t pay your gambling debts. Can’t do business with you.

  137. 2120

    Kevin Carns @52

    “Seems to me like you are working pretty hard to call the Bush Administration fascists”

    Why not? They are. So there is no ambiguity, let me clarify: The Bush Administration are fascists.

  138. 2121

    64

    “Rosenberg and Lowenstein will only be representing black Democrat “Tookie” murder felons who have been “dissed” by police!”

    Good! There’s no murder felons on HA, so you’re leaving — right?

    What, you haven’t left yet?

  139. 2122

    Comment on 65

    “Man, I hate you fuckers.”

    Well, heck, they wildly applaud Ann Coulter when she says they should put us in “concentrate camps” and “execute” us, so they can’t really expect us to like them, can they?

  140. 2123

    Doofus @67

    “I am going to love rubbing it Donna face when we get more Senators and reps in office in 06. As a recent presidential candidate once said, “Bring it on” Comment by RUFUS— 2/7/06 @ 7:18 pm”

    This is priceless. I’m saving this one, so I can rub Doofus’ face in it the day after election.

  141. 2124

    Comment on 65, 66, 67

    I got into an argument today with a Republican who insists soldiers were disenfranchised in the 2004 election. There’s just no dealing with these people, they believe all the right-wing lies, they ignore facts, the GOP is a Kool-Aid drinking cult.

  142. 2125

    Doofus @77

    “God bless thte troops. I pay tribute to them everytime I vote republican. I know if they were alive they would vote the same way too. Comment by RUFUS— 2/7/06 @ 8:06 pm”

    Just to set the record straight, Doofus, by voting Republican you voted for:

    1. Bush’s attempt to stop combat pay for troops in Iraq,
    2. Bush’s refusal to supply US troops with body and vehicle armor because he didn’t want to pay for it,
    3. Bush’s cuts in veterans benefits,
    4. The Pentagon’s policy of pushing wounded soldiers out of the service so the DoD doesn’t have to pay for their medical care,
    5. Bush’s failure to have a plan to occupy Iraq, which has cost US soldiers their lives,
    6. The Bush Administration’s foolish use of torture against innocent Iraqi civilians, and subsequent attempts to cover it up, which cost the US the support of the Iraqi people and guarantees we’re going to lose this war,
    7. The deficit financing of this war, which assures high inflation and high unemployment for years to come.

    Fuck you, Doofus — we’re going to hold you and every other Republican voter accountable for your actions. This isn’t business as usual. We hate you fuckers. We’re going to get even. You’re going to pay.

  143. 2126

    When we get back in power, first thing we do let’s confiscate all their property, then let’s imprison them.

  145. 2128

    78

    “Being from King County we all know they dont count military votes anyway. Comment by RUFUS— 2/7/06 @ 8:17 pm”

    B U L L S H I T

  146. 2129

    HEY TROLLFUCKS!!!

    Let’s do a reality check a.k.a. Strategic Vision poll:

    “2. Do you approve or disapprove of President Bush’s job performance?
    Approve 29%
    Disapprove 62%
    Undecided 9%

    “3. Do you approve or disapprove of President Bush’s handling of the economy?
    Approve 31%
    Disapprove 59%
    Undecided 10%

    “4. Do you approve or disapprove of President Bush’s handling of Iraq?
    Approve 28%
    Disapprove 60%
    Undecided 12%”

    http://www.strategicvision.biz.....l_1207.htm

    Is Bush unpopular, or what? Just a reminder, trollfucks … Washington voted for Al Gore and John Kerry … we’re a BLUE STATE and if you don’t like it — go fuck your armadillo! He’s waiting for you …

  148. 2131

    Doofus @89

    “OK Donna you got me. I forgot to mention that now that they are dead they make up a big part of the democratic base come election time. You satisfied now. Cant get anything over on Donna. Comment by RUFUS— 2/7/06 @ 8:44 pm”

    ROGER RABBIT QUIZ (FOR DOOFUS ONLY)

    Question 1: Judge Bridges is a judge in a

    [ ] 1. Democratic
    [ ] 2. Republican

    County.

    Question 2: The number of fraudulent votes Judge Bridges subtracted from the final vote total is

    [ ] 1. 4
    [ ] 2. 40
    [ ] 3. 400
    [ ] 4. 40,000
    [ ] 5. 40,000,000

    Question 3: The percentage of the fraudulent votes for Rossi was (careful now, this one is tricky):

    [ ] 1. 0%
    [ ] 2. 25%
    [ ] 3. 50%
    [ ] 4. 75%
    [ ] 5. 100%

    Please post your answers below. Your responses will then be graded.

  149. 2132

    Comment on 92

    “They would skin ConservativeFirst and his family in their own house if they felt it would help them keep power.”

    How very true. The strange thing about all these Bush-worshippers is they’ve convinced themselves the Fascist Party will share the loot with them. How very sad.

  150. 2133

    Hey Confirst, let me ask you this. Will you still support the GOP and Bushco if:

    1. One of your loved ones is killed by a drug the FDA approved, and
    2. You can’t sue the drug company for selling a dangerous drug?

    By the way, I wouldn’t take any medications if I were you, no matter what your doctor says, unless they’ve been on the market for at least 5 years (i.e., pre-Bush FDA approval). You can’t trust the FDA to protect you from bad drugs anymore — they let the drug companies sell whatever they want, and consumers have no rights.

  151. 2134

    Big Pharma has been very successful in getting government permission to market dangerous drugs and not be held accountable. I’m going to reward their efforts by not buying their product. I’d rather be killed by disease than by Merck.

  152. 2135

    Comment on 99

    Oh, I think it’s very possible that JCH is posting from the Honolulu jail. That’s where they put mental defectives who represent a danger to themselves or others, now that all the nut houses have been closed.

  153. 2136

    108

    “Who said, the KCRE? Well you believe your cronies at KCRE and I will believe our fighting men and women”

    Who, Brian Suits, who gets paid to shill for the GOP?

  155. 2138

    Flakey Klake @117

    Question for ya, klake … how come wingnuts always say “Amen” when they’re jerking each other off? Is it a religious thing with you guys? Guilt, perhaps? Or limited vocabulary?

  156. 2139

    WINGNUT VOCABULARY

    Wingnuts are rarely heard to say anything at all, and usually only when actively engaged in their favorite activity, circle-jerking! Noted anthropologist, Margaret Mead, after living in the field for 30 years in prime wingnut habitat, compiled the following wingnut vocabulary. This is apparently all the words they know.

    OOOO
    EEEE
    UUUU
    IIII
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    Notice the complete absence of consonants in their primitive language.

  157. 2140

    Doofus @ 122

    “So what. They had a trial for OJ too. Dont tell me you think OJ was innocent. You got a lot to learn K. Comment by RUFUS— 2/7/06 @ 9:43 pm”

    OK then, Rossi lost because he had lousy lawyers.

  159. 2142

    127

    “Yeah but I am not the one saying it, the soldiers are. Comment by RUFUS— 2/7/06 @ 9:51 pm”

    Which soldiers, Doofus? Names, please. Besides Brian Suits, who gets paid to shill for Rossi and the GOP.

  160. 2143

    Kevin Carns @130

    “Didn’t POS Al Gore send a few hundred Democrat Jewish lawyers to FL in 2000 to kick out as many military votes as possible? Comment by Abu Hamza al-Masri [JCH]— 2/7/06 @ 9:58 pm”

    No.

    P.S., Kevin why are you an Islamic terrorist? Isn’t America good enough for you?

  161. 2144

    Kevin Carns @135

    “K DR E MAY A THOUSAND CAMELS SHIT IN YOUR MOUTH Comment by YO— 2/7/06 @ 11:21 pm”

    I don’t know about camel shit but I’ll bet you know what camel cum tastes like.

  162. 2145

    Roger Rabbit has posted 96% of the last 26 comments. If you don’t like it, go blow a camel.

  163. 2146

    Actually, I don’t need to tell Kevin Carns aka Yo to do blow a camel because he will anyway, it comes naturally to him.

  164. 2147

    Correction

    “Actually, I don’t need to tell Kevin Carns aka Yo to blow a camel because he will anyway, it comes naturally to him.

  165. 2148

    Actually, I didn’t really need to repost my comment,

    “Actually, I don’t need to tell Kevin Carns aka Yo to blow a camel because he will anyway, it comes naturally to him”

    just because it had a typo in it. The real reason I posted it three times is because it’s funny! And so true.

  166. 2149

    What the hell.

    Actually, I don’t need to tell Kevin Carns aka Yo to blow a camel because he will anyway, it comes naturally to him.

  167. 2150

    Actually, I don’t need to tell Kevin Carns aka Yo to blow a camel because he will anyway, it comes naturally to him.

    Actually, I don’t need to tell Kevin Carns aka Yo to blow a camel because he will anyway, it comes naturally to him.

    Actually, I don’t need to tell Kevin Carns aka Yo to blow a camel because he will anyway, it comes naturally to him.

    Actually, I don’t need to tell Kevin Carns aka Yo to blow a camel because he will anyway, it comes naturally to him.

    Actually, I don’t need to tell Kevin Carns aka Yo to blow a camel because he will anyway, it comes naturally to him.

    Actually, I don’t need to tell Kevin Carns aka Yo to blow a camel because he will anyway, it comes naturally to him.

    Actually, I don’t need to tell Kevin Carns aka Yo to blow a camel because he will anyway, it comes naturally to him.

  168. 2151

    HEY TROLLFUCKS see ya tomorrow

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  169. 2152

    Comment by Donnageddon— 2/7/06 @ 8:54 pm

    “They would skin ConservativeFirst and his family in their own house if they felt it would help them keep power.”

    Your hate has made you paranoid. If you could show even one example of the Bush Administration murdering any American (liberal or conservative), I think you’d have your case for impeachment. So build a case and let’s get Bush impeached, unless your just spouting basesless acusations. I usually ignore your (and Roger’s) ridiculous hyperbole, but since you called me out by name I thought I would address your comments.

    Comment by Dr. E— 2/7/06 @ 10:18 pm

    “No, and I’m not being evasive, either. There’s a difference, between fascist tendencies and policies, and the full implementation of a fascist form of government. We’re not there yet, and hopefully never will be, but the tendencies (rhetoric, etc.) and policies normally preceed the actual consolidation of power.”

    That’s why we have to be so damn vigilant.”

    Examples? You’ve basically made the same post three times, saying the Bush Administration has fascist tendicies and policies, yet haven’t outlined what they are or how that doesn’t make the Bush Administration a “full implementation of a fascist form of government”. If that isn’t vague and evasive I don’t know what is. You are the one that asked to be argued with on this issue, but it’s impossible to debate without facts. So far you’ve provided none.

  173. 2156

    ConMan @169

    “Your hate has made you paranoid.”

    Interesting that you should accuse a liberal of “hate” and “paranoia.”

    Hey Conjob, do you think Ann Coulter’s statement that liberals should be put in “concentration camps” and “executed” falls in the category of “hate?” If so, why haven’t you criticized her?

    Hey ConJob, when wingys go around calling us “commies” and “traitors” and “unpatriotic” and “un-American,” do you think that’s “hate” speech? Do you think maybe they don’t like us? Or are we just being paranoid?

    Seems to me you guys are the haters and the paranoiacs who have been seeing commies hiding under your beds for going on 75 years now.

    Sheesh. Conjob must be looking in the mirror again.

  175. 2158

    A HUGE mystery to me is why none of the Blogs were all over the devastating article in yesterday’s Seattle Times regarding the Democrats principal Law Firm, Preston Gates and their ties to Abramhoff–
    http://archives.seattletimes.n.....ston+Gates

    This is unbelievable stuff and shows the Dems links to the lobbying cesspool…even though the Seattle Times sanitized it and made it look like this massive law firm was somehow “victims” cuz they were big-time Democrat leaning. Follow the money folks.
    This Blog was so concerned about Lobbying improprieties. However now that it has been disclosed how the primary Democrat Law Firm has profited from Abramhoff, the silence is deafening.
    John McCain was absolutely right when he bitch-slapped Obama for going back on his word and continuing to politicize the crookedness that both Party’s should be ashamed of.
    One of the main solutions to the Lobbying problem is a Flat Tax. Where is Steve Forbes when we need him.

  176. 2159

    Idiot @169

    “saying the Bush Administration has fascist tendicies and policies, yet haven’t outlined what they are”

    1. Pumping up public fears of enemy attack
    2. Starting wars
    3. Torturing people
    4. Harassing dissenters
    5. Suppressing free speech and criticism
    6. Spying on their own citizens
    7. Election tampering
    8. Expanding corporate power
    9. Undermining checks and balances
    10. Building concentration camps
    11. Pursuing cheap labor policies

  177. 2160

    Kevin Carns @ 170 – 172

    Of course I’m less than an idiot — I weigh only 10 3/16 lbs. You weigh in at … what? … 180 lbs. of bullshit?

  179. 2162

    But ya know what? That doesn’t make me 1/18th of a wingnut idiot … I’m only a bunny but I’m still 1,000 times the rabbit that any of you cowards will ever be.

  180. 2163

    Comment on 174

    Heck, why not post it, so the cons can see it with their own eyes:

    1.) Powerful and Continuing Nationalism: Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
    2.) Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights: Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of “need.” The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
    3.) Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause: The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
    4.) Supremacy of the Military: Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
    5.) Rampant Sexism: The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
    6.) Controlled Mass Media: Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
    7.) Obsession with National Security: Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses
    8.) Religion and Government are Intertwined: Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government’s policies or actions.
    9.) Corporate Power is Protected: The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
    10.) Labor Power is Suppressed: Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
    11.) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts: Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
    12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment: Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations
    13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption: Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
    14. Fraudulent Elections: Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

  181. 2164

    169

    Re fascist tendencies — RR got to it before me (see above, 14 characteristics of fascism). I’ve also posted elsewhere about the “mobilizing passions” that fascist regimes (and would-be fascist movements) exploit to encourage the masses to support their accession to/consolidation of power. Fear mongering is one of the most basic elements of these mobilizing passions; just about every time you hear the words “terror”, “terrorist”, “evil”, “9/11”, etc. come out of the pres. or his crew, you are hearing fascist rhetoric.

  182. 2165

    I’ll repost the precis of how these “mobilizing passions” play themselves out:

    “…fascism is more plausibly linked to a set of ‘mobilizing passions’ that shape fascist action than to a consistent and fully articulated philosophy. At bottom is a passionate nationalism. Allied to it is a conspiratorial and Manichean view of history as a battle between the good and evil camps, between the pure and the corrupt, in which one’s own community or nation has been the victim. In this Darwinian narrative, the chosen people have been weakened by political parties, social classes, unassimilabale minorities, spoiled rentiers, and rationalist thinkers who lack the necessary sense of community.”
    –Robert O. Paxton, Anatomy of Fascism

  183. 2166

    And again, those “passions”, according to Paxton, are”
    1. A sense of overwhelming crisis beyond the reach of any traditional solutions.
    2. The primacy of the group, toward which one has duties superior to every right, whether individual or universal, and the subordination of the individual to it.
    3. The belief that one’s group is a victim, a sentiment that justifies any action, without legal or moral limits, against its enemies, both internal and external.
    4. Dread of the group’s decline under the corrosive effects of individualistic liberalism, class conflict, and alien influences.
    5. The need for closer integration of a purer community, by consent if possible, or by exclusionary violence if necessary.
    6. The need for authority by natural leaders (always male), culminating in a national chief who alone is capable of incarnating the group’s destiny.
    7. The superiority of the leader’s instincts over abstract and universal reason.
    8. The beauty of violence and the efficacy of will, when they are devoted to the group’s success.
    9. The right of the chosen people to dominate others without restraint from any kind of human or divine law, right being decided by the sole criterion of teh group’s prowess within a Darwinian struggle.

  184. 2167

    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 2/8/06 @ 10:13 am

    “1. Pumping up public fears of enemy attack”

    Yeah, you’re right the terrorist don’t really want to attack us, we should just ignore all their threats and be happy.

    “2. Starting wars”

    Um, Saddam started this in 1991, we were just finishing it. Remember all those unenforced UN resolutions? GHW Bush should have knocked Saddam out of power when he had the chance. I don’t think he did because of the hue and cry he knew he’d get from the left. Good move guys.

    “3. Torturing people”

    Who, enemy combatants? A fascist would torture their own people to create a climate of fear. Name one U.S. citizen that has been tortured.

    “4. Harassing dissenters”

    I thought being arrested was part of civil disobedience. Is that not true anymore? MLK was harrassed alot more by Democratic administrations than Cindy Sheehan has been by the Bush Admininstration. Are you saying that the Kennedy and Johnson Administrations had fascist tendencies as well?

    “5. Suppressing free speech and criticism”

    Certaily your rights to post incessently here haven’t been infringed. This is just hyperbole and paranoia on your part. Are you really saying there’s been a systematic suprression of free speech rights by the Bush Administration? If so I think you need some more factual backing to make this point.

    “6. Spying on their own citizens”

    Actually the focus of the survelience is on foreigners.

    “7. Election tampering”

    There’s no proof of this, only your delusional fantasies.

    “8. Expanding corporate power”

    That’s hardly a fascist tendency. Nor do the Republicans have a monopoly on this behavior.

    “9. Undermining checks and balances”

    I haven’t seen Bush declare martial law, like many have claimed he’d do. So I still see the governmental checks and balances in place. I do wish Congress would grow more of a backbone though, kind of like they did in 1994.

    “10. Building concentration camps”

    Ironically the president most responsible for defeating fascism, FDR ,must be the ultimate fascist in your mind, since he imprisoned thousands of U.S. citizens during World War II. So where is this “concentration camp” for U.S. citizens Bush has created?

    “11. Pursuing cheap labor policies”

    Hardly a fascist tendency, but don while holding hands with the Democrats who want more votes.

    Or was this list talking about Saddam, instead of Bush?

  185. 2168

    Roger Rabbit, You post like good terrorist Islam brother! Bush bad! Sadaam, Roger Rabbit good! Praise to Allah!

  186. 2169

    RR, You tell they 9/11 never happened! You are good Democrat and brother of Abu and Allah! Idiot Dems will believe you! Bush flew airplanes, not brothers of Allah! Tell them, Roger Rabbit!

  187. 2170

    An African-American woman claims Southwest Airlines unfairly subjected her to its policy requiring large passengers to buy two seats because of her race, a lawyer said yesterday at the start of her federal trial against the airline. [The Legal Firm of Rosenberg and Lowenstein is ready to sue! Legal ast Jules Hypenstein, take the black women’s deposition!!!!]

  188. 2171

    ROGER RABBIT POLL

    Which of the following individuals is most likely to be an Islamic terrorist?

    [ ] 1. Walt Disney
    [ ] 2. Mickey Mantle
    [ ] 3. Roger Rabbit
    [ ] 4. Abe Lincoln
    [ ] 5. Abu Hamza al-Masri

  189. 2172

    ROGER RABBIT POLL

    Which of the following individuals is most likely to be an Islamic terrorist?

    [ ] 1. Walt Disney
    [ ] 2. Mickey Mantle
    [X] 3. Roger Rabbit
    [ ] 4. Abe Lincoln
    [ ] 5. Abu Hamza al-Masri

    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 2/8/06 @ 12:47 pm

  190. 2173

    A shrimp a hibachi chef tossed at a man eating at a Japanese steakhouse ultimately led to the diner’s death, his family claims in a $10 million wrongful death lawsuit against the restaurant chain Benihana. [We at the Democrat Law Firm of Rosenberg and Lowenstein are pround the announce our lawsuit against evil Benihana. We will sue and drive them right out of business! Ms Jules Hypenstein, my asst, is taking depositions as we speak!]

  191. 2174

    Hillary Clinton has decided to kiss a little labor union booty and get in on the war against Wal-Mart, America’s biggest private employer. Hillary, of course, thinks that it is the role of government, to decide just how a private company needs to spend its payroll budget. The government should determine what percentage of the payroll budget goes into actual pay, what percentage into pensions, and, of course, what percentage goes into health care. Hillary, being the champion of socialized medicine that she is, believes that the last person to be responsible for an individual’s health care is ….. the individual. Now Hillary is very concerned about the health care benefits Wal-Mart bestows on its employees. Here’s your interesting but probably forgotten little fact. For several years Hillary was on the board of directors of Wal-Mart. She stepped down when her “husband” stepped up to the White House. Not once during that time … not once … did Hillary enter an objection into the record over the amount Wal-Mart was spending on health benefits … and the figure was quite a bit lower than it is right now. This is all about politics and kissing union ass.

  192. 2175

    Why do trolls think copying and pasting the same drivel in multiple comment threads will make a difference?

  194. 2177

    193

    First thing JCH has ever posted that has an ounce of truth to it. Unfortunately, it’s true that if you repeat lies often enough, some people will believe them. Just look at how many people still think King County disenfranchised military voters — just because Republican liars told them so.

  195. 2178

    189

    What do you expect from a shrink who’s had his dick stuck in a Coke bottle for 125 years?

  196. 2179

    Military Vote: 80% plus for Republicans. Dems hire lawyers to kick out military votes. Al Gore sent hundreds of lawyers to FL in 2000 to kick out military votes, while demanding illegal felon Democrat votes be counted. Sad. Very sad.

  198. 2181

    197, K, The truth shall set even you dumb ass liberal Democrats free, and off the Hillary plantation!

  200. 2183

    196

    “Dems hire lawyers to kick out military votes. Al Gore sent hundreds of lawyers to FL in 2000 to kick out military votes, while demanding illegal felon Democrat votes be counted. Sad. Very sad.’

    Why are Republicans such shameless, conscience-less, fucking liars? This is total bullshit. Complete myth.

    Reality check: A lone Democratic lawyer, acting on his own, moved to disqualify military votes that weren’t postmarked (or something like that). Although these votes were legally questionable, the Gore campaign took immediate action to shut this guy down, and immediately and publicly supported the counting of this legally questionable military votes. Doing so probably cost him Florida and the election, but Gore never hestitated; he said, “We have to count the military votes.”

    Your post is total bunk, a fucking lie, a rightwing myth.

  201. 2184

    You know, folks, it’s because of comments like JCH’s post @196 (and many others by him and other trolls) that I just automatically assume anything a Republican says is a lie — because it almost always is.

    These Republican liars have no ethics, no integrity, no decency — and they’re stupid! They think they won’t get caught lying. They act like facts don’t exist.

  202. 2185

    Moonbats: I just viewed the Electoral College vote in 2000. There is an interesting observation. Tennessee went Republican in 2000. Why did Tennessee reject their native son? Why is Roger stupid? Why does K live in the past? Read the timeline Roger & K. The Gore lawsuit happened.

  204. 2187

    ROGER RABBIT POLL

    Which of the following individuals is most likely to be an Islamic terrorist?

    [ ] 1. Walt Disney
    [ ] 2. Mickey Mantle
    [ ] 3. Roger Rabbit
    [ ] 4. Abe Lincoln
    [ ] 5. Abu Hamza al-Masri
    [X] 6. JCH

    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 2/8/06 @ 12:47 pm

  205. 2188

    ConservativeFirst @ 184 wrote:

    Expanding corporate power”

    That’s hardly a fascist tendency.

    Comment by ConservativeFirst— 2/8/06 @ 10:40 am

    Are you kidding?

    Do you even have an inkling of what the word means? Do you even understand, or know it’s origins?

    Good, God, what an incredibly dumb statement you made for all to read!!

  206. 2189

    205
    CF’s post, among other things, just shows how effective the GOP propaganda machine has been at framing issues linguistically (and disengenuously at that), as well as a number of questionable double-standards. For instance, the suggestion that we’re now finishing up the war started in ’91 false on its face. To further suggest that it had anything to do with violations of UN resolutions is also specious, since with that standard we should have also gone to war with Turkey, Israel, Armenia, Croatia, Sudan, and several other nations that were in violation of UN resolutions in 2002.

    Pop quiz, anyone: how many UN resolutions was Israel in violation of in 2002? How about Turkey? (Ever heard of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus?)

  207. 2190

    @ 206

    “No” to the UN violations.
    “Yes” to the Northern Cyprus question.

    “Agree” with your assessment of the GOP propaganda machine and how gullible CF, and others like him are to the lies.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

Please join me for some good beer and conversation.

Comments

  1. 2192

    Hey Cynical — NOV up $5.11 today! Rabid Rabbit will be dining on dollar bills and caviar soon!!! I thank the GOP for rigging the oil market to make Bashful Bunny rich!!! Being a robber baron beats the hell out of being in the working class.

  3. 2194

    Roger Rabbit rarely appears at Drinking Liberally due to traffic problems caused by crowds of admiring fans, papparazzi, process servers, and GOP hit men. On the other hand, prr (“I’ll be there”) never appears at DL, due to a wide yellow streak down his back.

  5. 2196

    Roger Rabbit has posted 80.0% of the comments in this thread. If you don’t like that, a horny armadillo is waiting for you.

  6. 2197

    Roger Rabbit is gonna do his version ot “The Internationale” while windie does a lap dance for him. Bill & Hillary are gonna come clean on Whitewater, and Barbara Streisand and the Hollywood elite are gonna surrender their personal fortunes to pay for the social programs they think the rest of us should pay for.

    Plus the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny will be there!

  7. 2198

    roger,
    Neither Putin nor dead dinosaurs nor billions of oil hungry chinese are tools of the GOP.

  12. 2203

    Reply to 6 (continued)

    Unfortunately, I couldn’t find a version in Rabbit; this web site offers audio versions in Chinese or Turkish, but has the lyrics in English:

    Arise ye starvelings from your slumbers
    Arise ye criminals of want
    For reason in revolt now thunders
    and at last ends the age of cant.
    Now away with all your superstitions
    Servile masses arise, arise!
    We’ll change forthwith the old conditions
    And spurn the dust to win the prize.

    CHORUS

    Then come comrades rally
    And the last fight let us face
    The Internationale
    Unites the human race. (repeat).

    We peasants, artisans and others,
    Enrolled amongst the sons of toil
    Let’s claim the earth henceforth for brothers
    Drive the indolent from the soil.
    On our flesh for too long has fed the raven
    We’ve too long been the vultures prey.
    But now farewell to spirit craven
    The dawn brings in a brighter day.

    CHORUS

    No saviour from on high delivers
    No trust we have in prince or peer
    Our own right hand the chains must shiver
    Chains of hatred, greed and fear.
    Ere the thieves will out with their booty
    And to all give a happier lot.
    Each at his forge must do his duty
    And strike the iron while its hot.

    CHORUS

  13. 2204

    Here’s the GOP version:

    Greedy, greedy, am I;
    I love to let babies die;
    Not through abortions,
    But by market contortions,
    Their mothers starve so I can live high!

  14. 2205

    Rabbit,

    Arise ye starvelings from your slumbers
    Arise ye criminals of want
    For reason in revolt now thunders
    and at last ends the age of cant.

    How exactly do you pronounce the second word in that rhyming scheme? :)

  15. 2206

    Yeah, communism was really a wonderful idea, wasn’t it, Roger? When you say you’re a Democratic hack and a “govmint attorney,” we all believe you!

  17. 2208

    15

    No, communism sucks — and so does greed, corruption, fascism, lying, stealing, warmongering, and everything else Republican.

  18. 2209

    15 (continued)

    Oh, I forgot to mention — you suck, too. Hey! — if you like ’em furry, I have a rabbit dick you can suck.

  19. 2210

    Ralph Reed just mentioned on Hardball. He should win the best award for doggy style on goldy’s poll.

  20. 2211

    15 (continued)

    I’m just sucking up to you by posting it. You’re the one who brought it up. Which is not surprising, given that the neocons you admire are all commies. That’s right, the leaders of the neoconservative movement are all ex-Trostkyites who decided being a fascist pays better than being a communist — they’re all totalitarians to the bone. Where the hell do you think Bush got his idea of creating a KGB in the U.S. from?

  21. 2212

    re 15: Yossarian was the Liberal. Milo Minderbinder was the Republican. Care for some chocolate covered Egyptian cotton, Yossarian. It’s for the good of the Syndicate and what’s good for the Syndicate is good for everyone. So you owe it to yourselves and the Syndicate to buy it.

  23. 2214

    RE 21:

    Yossaian was a bombadier; Milo was a pilot.

    …and Winston Smith is the main caharcter in “1984,” if memeory serves.

  25. 2216

    Yossarian was the bombadier turned pacifist. His desertion is the climax of the book, Catch-22.

    If Joseph Heller were alive today – he’d probably bitch slap you.

  27. 2218

    @ 26: Yeah. But ya’ gotta’ admit that at the end of the book Yossarian was, er, kinda like, you know, deserting.

    You may want to search for some other handle.

  28. 2219

    @26: Or, you may be intentionally being ironic. Nah, can’t be. Loons don’t know what irony is.

  30. 2221

    Is this media bias?

    Today’s Times reports Sound Transit ridership has doubled. Wow. That’s a big increase. But it turns out that ridership is a fraction of what was initially predicted, and no where near what’s needed to make it economically viable. It would still be cheaper to charter a fleet of helicopters to carry the few people than it is for them to ride those stooopid fucking trains.

    So why did the Times headline focus on the doubling rather than the actual bleak actual economic performance. Why don’t they question whether the whole thing makes sense?

    I could see putting a positive spin on it occasionally, but why do they NEVER really challenge things that are obviously stoopid. Is it bias or just stoopidity?

  31. 2222

    Sigmund Freud @ 24

    “Take your meds.”

    Take your cigar and stick it back into your mouth.

    (because, sometimes a cigar is not just a cigar…)

  32. 2223

    It would still be cheaper to charter a fleet of helicopters to carry the few people than it is for them to ride those stooopid fucking trains.

    Bias or stupidity? You make the call.

  33. 2224

    MTR @ 30

    So why did the Times headline focus on the doubling rather than the actual bleak actual economic performance. Why don’t they question whether the whole thing makes sense?

    I just looked at the article. It’s here. Everything you mentioned is in the article (except for the helicopter thing, that came from your ass, I presume).

    The reason that the headline was about the doubling of the ridership was because THAT WAS THE NEWS! Everything else in that article was true last week.

    I swear, I’ve known a lot of stupid people before, but I think you’re the first person I’ve come across that actually makes an effort to be the stupidest person in a room.

  34. 2225

    How much does the taxpayer pay for each and every rider to ride? When will they be self-sufficient or will they forever be subsidized by car drivers?????

  35. 2226

    MTR,

    I still laugh when i recall Almost Live, about 10 years ago, noting that for the money Sound Transit wanted, “we could buy every man, woman, and child a ‘way bitchin’ Camaro”

    Too bad now its more like a Lexus or Mercedes.

  36. 2227

    thehim

    Ha!. Nowhere does the article dig hard into the goofball waste and puffery from Sound Transit.

    This clip from article sort of gets a glancing blow

    When Sound Transit kicked off Everett-Seattle train service two years ago, it forecast 175,000 boardings in 2004, 200,000 in 2005 and 250,000 in 2006. But just 97,000 one-way riders took the train in 2004, and the agency later acknowledged its projections were too optimistic and scaled them back.

    The latest estimate is for 150,000 boardings in 2006

  37. 2228

    Lefties, hold on for logic..

    Times reports. Through Dec. 18, passengers had taken more than 147,000 one-way trips on the line in 2005, exceeding Sound Transit’s revised target of 125,000 for the year. The total includes more than 30,000 who rode special trains to and from weekend Seahawks and Mariners games.

    —-wow—
    120,000 one way trips (excluding seahawks). I’m assuming that is roughly 60,000 cars taken off the freeways. That’s about $3.6mm operating, plus another $385 million in capital to build it. Let’s say they financed that $385mm via 5%money. That’s another $19mm. So about $22mm for 60,000 cars. (and some of those train riders likely car pooled, but lets keep it simple).

    so about $366 per rider, per year. Can I have $366 to telecommute?

  38. 2229

    26

    You mean like prr (“I’ll be there”) bitch-slapping Roger Rabbit at DL?

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  39. 2230

    Righton,

    Traffic congestion costs more than most people realize. The amount of gas, work-hours, and especially delivery time for local businesses take a serious hit when there are no alternatives to driving.

    You’ll have trouble finding any initial foray into rail by a major city paying off immediately. Things like this are done for long term considerations, and the cost of not doing it is nearly always more expensive than doing it in the long run.

    Seattle has a very serious transit problem. Whining about how much is costs isn’t a strategy for fixing it.

  40. 2231

    30

    Hey MTR — how many riders will travel on I-5 after the world runs out of oil? Or is the invisible hand gonna put more oil in the ground when it’s not busy whacking your tool?

  41. 2232

    34

    Hey Sgt. Mac — the military is subsidized by taxpayers, too. What I mean is … Iraq, Inc. isn’t exactly a going concern, is it??? Remember Bush telling us that Iraqi oil revenues would pay for the war? Naw, you don’t remember that (but I do).

  42. 2233

    MTR @ 30 because if “they EVER really challenge things that are obviously stoopid. Is it bias or just stoopidity?” they would spend numerous lifetimes contemplating your benign existance. How are the women treating you? LOL

  43. 2234

    Because St Petersburg changed its name to Petrograd, one wonders if it was actually capitalists behind Russian communism. Like Hitler being hired to make Germany safe for General Motors’ Opels; Polish steel and commie Jew slave-labor, and an American investment banking firm Director Prescott Bush laundering the money that built those Opels (and tanks and other munitions) between 1930 and 1942.

    Speaking of GM, their latest TV commercial is a doozy: well-to-do African-Americans, dressed to the hilt in white-white white, are led to believe purchasing a Chevy Denali/Tahoe/Suburban SUV will elevate them above their station as non-whites.

    Hooray for the red white and blue! Screw you and you and screw you too! Send your boys off to wars for your cars, and the petrol for the tank. Drive your car everywhere every day. Don’t forget your car insurance pay-ments. You need to get to your JOOOOB, in your car, where you work on cars, for the maaa-an.

  44. 2235

    thehim

    Spending unwisely is still stupid.

    A train that takes longer than bumper to bumper does nothing to speed my commute

  45. 2236

    @37: Your logic is less than stellar. If you want to compare the costs, including both operating and capital expenses, you have to also include those costs when computing the cost of auto trips (or more fairly, passenger-miles) on the I-5 corridor. You might also want to consider ancillary costs such as parking, pollution, lost labor time, stressed out utility functions, etc.

    If you drive round trip from Everett to Seattle 250 days a year by yourself at 40 cents\mile for operating expenses (including wear and tear) that calcs out as $5,000 per year and does not include parking or capital infrastructure expenses.

    I’ll take the $336/rider/year, thank you. However, to be fair, I believe your whole exercise was deeply flawed to begin with, and your “ta-da!” conclusion was a joke.

    Feel free to correct your math at your leisure.

  46. 2237

    Righton – Shit, are we the only ones here who can do math? Mass transit has never been able to pay for itself. Not in Seattle, not in Murka, not anywhere in the fucking world. The delusional moonbats who crawl around here just don’t fucking get it.

  47. 2238

    right on @ 44 “A train that takes longer than bumper to bumper does nothing to speed my commute”

    Perhaps you could use the time on the train to read a book?

    Ooops, sorry. Forgot who I was speaking to.

  48. 2239

    MTR so what do you want? What is your perfect solution? Every one in there own car? It would take you hours just to get to your Aurora haunts, and then you would not have the energy to do what you do best.. Oh, that’s right, what you do best you can accomplish by yourself.

  49. 2240

    Jimmy Nuetron, Boy genius explains it best: the civilization that considers itself advanced when everyone drives, ultimately devolves into amebic blobs living 24-7 inside egg-shaped mobility devices. Let me explain it to Nascar fans everywhere in their future language: gluuug uug ahh guhlahg auhluh uhlgaluha auhl ahl aung ang eeuahl ah ooulck.

  51. 2242

    MTR & righton—
    These KLOWNS are incapable of doing the math on any of their boneheaded pipedreams. They have all read the same piece of crap Progressive Holy Grail called “The Road to Nowhere”. Social engineering for their PINHEADED agenda calls for never ending “visioning”, no accountability (doing the math) and a belief that there way is the only way NO MATTER HOW MUCH THE COST!!! These KLOWNS are inept at producing anything that pencils out and they rely on the old mantra “The only problem we have here is not enough revenue (aka our taxes are TOO LOW)!!!!
    All so-called Progressive Country’s eventually rebel against the stupidity of the agenda because hard-working taxpayers eventually get sick and tired of paying for useless bastards like
    Cougar, Clueless, Rujax etal sicking on their collective asses bitching and moaning…..these KLOWNS want the free-ride. Honest folks eventually rebel!!

  52. 2243

    The key to the upcoming elections is candidates that figure out what taxpayers want is not to be forced out of their cars….but solutions that ease congestion aka POURING MORE CONCRETE and utililizing existing concrete (aka HOV Lanes)!!! MTR IS right. Most folks that drive alone to work (R’s and D’s) want to continue to do that….so who has the congestion solution???

  53. 2244

    DAY 56 of the Traffic Congestion Relief VIGIL–
    Report:
    Traffic still sucks real bad…actually WORSE than when the GasTax Repeal failed. I love asking my Seattle pals who voted No on I-912 if they are satisfied with the traffic relief. I love to call them on there cellphones during rush hour!!! A couple guys…before I say a single word…admit traffic is WORSE!! And they see no real congestion relief down the road
    from the Tax Increase they desperately and ignorantly blindly supported.

  54. 2245

    Heh Cyn, how’s the new construction going on the new viaditch and the 520 boondoggle?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ …Later

    :)

  55. 2246

    46

    “Mass transit has never been able to pay for itself.”

    Well gee, Mark, roads have never been able to pay for themselves, either. That’s why have to pay gas taxes and car tab fees.

  56. 2247

    53

    Hey Cynical, if you can manage to throw up a viaduct in 56 days, I’ll make sure I DON’T drive on it.*

    * This should be easy because bunnies don’t drive. We hop! My two powerful hind legs get me up the hill to Stefan’s garden, and everywhere else I need to go.

  57. 2248

    POUR MORE FUCKING CONCRETE, you say? Oh this is funny, Vagina Lips. You loons presume to lecture us about economics, yet propose solutions that ignore the law of diminishing marginal returns, and I won’t even start on the great eminent domain vs. more roads thing.

  58. 2249

    Proud, with MTVYD’s comment of ‘pour more fuc*ing concrete’ it just casts a strong light on his thought process. Needing more roads, eminent domain, government takes private land (pays for it) and the neocons like MTVYD can cry about the government and their repressive ways.

  59. 2250

    41

    Roger, I don’t know if Bush said Iraqi oil was going to pay for the war or not, I do know some damn body said it! I remember it well and I wish they would get the production online and start paying for their infrastructure.

  60. 2251

    proud to be an ass

    You don’t know how to compare things.

    If the drill is, “what’s cheaper for me?”, then ok, its 40 cents a mile, plus some other expenses. Likely a deeply subsidized train ride is cheaper.

    If its net cost to society.
    ..a) we already have the highways built. So what’s maintenance on 60,000 cars for a year?
    ..b) Train is only the incremental $350mm plus opex (i ignored the underlying original train costs, right of way grants, etc).
    ..c) I was kind to you, i could have amortized that $350mm over its useful life, likely 20 years.

  61. 2252

    Day 56 of the traffic congestion vigil…….
    You have a long way to go. It’s a 16 year plan. Gregoire missed a meeting yesterday – stuck in traffic! The first time in years the Governor failed to show up.

    You don’t fix the congestion, it costs billions in unrealized commerce. Hov lanes are empty and everyone is stuck in traffic, makes sense. Let’s make everyone mad enough not to travel to Seattle.

  62. 2253

    Just wanted to say that I attended “Drinking Liberally” for the first time last night, and enjoyed it very much. Traffic wasn’t a problem getting there but parking was sure a bitch. Next time I’ll try to get there earlier and/or take the bus.

  63. 2254

    The best thing about Sounder is the economic shot in the arm it gives to the historic downtowns near the new stations, (not including Tukwila and Everett stations designed by moronic anti-transit Boeing interests). The towns south of Tukwila now have a historic opportunity to strengthen their economies through development. Whether that development is cautious and considerate or reckless, ass-backwards and driven by rightwing interests is another question.

    The only way to reduce traffic congestion is to build communities into places where goods, services, jobs and amenities can be accessed with the least travel by any means. Currently, Seattle’s roads are strangled with traffic because the built environment is designed to accommodate travel only by car. The decision that Link light rail would bypass South Center caused the loss of economic development opportunity and is a criminal act of right wing conspiracy.

    Monday, a GM Hummer slammed into a Nissan that had stalled and was stopped on the narrow shoulder of the freeway ramp between I-205 and I-84. The Nissan was uttlerly demolished and its two passengers died. The Hummer suffered narely a scratch. If the Hummer was ‘cutting the corner’ of the ramp’s curve and paved shoulder, criminal and civil suit could be filed for wrongful death. Fucking Hummers and their fuckhead ‘pour concrete’ owners.

  64. 2255

    61

    “Hov lanes are empty”

    Have you ever actually BEEN in Seattle? I think not. Clearly, you have never actually seen an HOV lane in the Seattle-Tacoma corridor.

  65. 2256

    61 (continued)

    Or do you just spew wingnut talking points with no regard for truth, just like the rest of the mindless GOP shills on this board?

  66. 2257

    Hey Cynical — NOV up another $2.31 today!!! Rabid Rabbit is cracking the lid on another jar of caviar. :D :D :D

  67. 2258

    59

    “I wish they would get the production online and start paying for their infrastructure.”

    kinda hard to do when they keep blowing up said infrastructure as part of their strategy to evict the foreign invader from their country.

  69. 2260

    Wells @ 63 I am interested in your comment:

    anti-transit Boeing interests

    Do you mean that you think Boeing is not a supporter of improved tranpsortation in the Puget Sound?

  70. 2261

    BTW Wells, I think anyone caught driving a hummer without cadre of troops aboard should be pulled over and have their thumbs broken. After they confiscate the vehicle. :)

  71. 2262

    sggmac, I am interested in how you would fix the traffic conjestion problem in the Puget Sound.

  73. 2264

    Hey Mark The Yellow Dicked Redneck, yesterday you asked:

    Name ONE idea that came out of her fertile mind that she executed to completion as FUWA’s senior senator. Something where she saw a problem, came up with an innovative solution, sold it to the senate, and got it passed.

    Just one.

    I’m waiting.

    Oh, and be very careful of rakes on the ground…

    Comment by Mark The Redneck— 1/3/06 @ 10:10 pm

    How’s that working out for you, you POS dumbass wingnut?

  74. 2265

    Donnageddon. Here’s a construct of the theory about Boeing. Boeing has competent engineering staff with ample understanding of how transit systems work. Link LRT routed through South Center is critical to optimal ridership and directing growth there, but Boeing made minimal effort to defend the South Center route. If Boeing wanted Link, you’d best believe they’d get it. Boeing and the air travel industry are partners with the rental car industry. Nevermind that Link LRT to Seatac reduces car rental income because eliminating service to South Center significantly increases local car dependency. The Sounder station at Boeing headquarters offices is an abysmally developed station, as if Boeing officials desire their own station, but do not wish to share it with others. This theory about the Sounder station applies to Link LRT service. Boeing is in bed with auto-related interests and knows that the bypass is an engineering fatal flaw.

    There are other, conspiratorial players in the decision to bypass South Center. Most of all, Downtown Seattle retailers and hoteliers, no matter what they have said publicly, do not want the competitive edge South Center would have gained were Link LRT routed there. They pulled strings at Sound Transit to nix the South Center route. Also, suburban shopping malls are traditionally anti-transit (and anti-transit users) and the mall’s directors opposed the route. Also, the City of Renton desires a freeway ramp in the vacinity of the route. They could have got that freeway ramp along with the Link LRT, but they still opposed the route. Being so close to South Center, they probably thought keeping the colored and the riff-raff out was a ‘class division’ necessity.

    Sound Transit claimed the shorter route would save some $30 million, and that these savings were desireable. But the truth is the number of riders lost through the bypass eliminates many more millions of dollars in annual revenue. Sound Transit knows this, lied about it and covered up the lie.

    These players ruined Link light rail potential: Boeing, Downtown Seattle retailers/hoteliers, South Center Shopping Center, the City of Renton, Sound Transit. If these characters don’t like hearing it, screw ’em. Link LRT had potential to reduce traffic congestion only if it were routed through South Center. Without South Center, traffic congestion will only get worse. It’s a very complicated, almost convoluted explanation of the importance of developing South Center. It could have been the bellweather of a regional development pattern change for the better, were it not for auto-related interests who’ve had their heads up their assholes for so long they don’t care about Seattle.

  75. 2266

    Rog sez:
    Hey Cynical – NOV up another $2.31 today!!! Rabid Rabbit is cracking the lid on another jar of caviar.
    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 1/4/06 @ 12:58 pm”

    I’m with you brother!!! A toast to our mutual increase in wealth!!!! I love seeing any of my brothers (LEFT or RIGHT) make money on in the real world rather than just sit back and bitch about how unfair it all is like the LEFTIST PINHEADED KLOWNS. Don’t piss and moan you idiots! Invest and make money like me and Rog!!!!!
    I think I bought in around 40-45/share Rog….but you got in cheaper you DAWG! That’s ok. A Bull makes money, a bear makes money and a PIG makes nothing!!
    Oh yeah….and a KLOWN who sits on the sidelines pissing and moaning makes nothing too!!!

  76. 2267

    Wells, do you know that they will not allow you to park overnight at the Airport terminus being built? That too is being covered up and not discussed. I brought that bit of news back in October 2005!

    Cynical & Roger: Are you both saying along with GBS in another thread that the evil system of capitalism works and people make money when others make money? Wow, I can’t believe what I’m seeing here on ASSes!

  77. 2268

    Puddy–
    These KLOWNS are a little slow on the uptake. Some of them like DonnaF***inggeddon, clueless, headless and others will never get it. Roger gets it. He’s have fun condemning evil corporate America and Big Oil ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK…as it should be.
    Rog just needs to appease the KLOWNS….but he’s a capitalist thru and thru!

  78. 2269

    The alcoholics are getting together to drink up and find their courage eh?

  79. 2270

    @1:

    Roger Rodent:

    Since you neither work, or are a wealthy baron; what do you care either way?

    @3:

    And you never attend “drinking liberally” as they do not accept food stamps for beer, nor for the cab ride over there. At least be honest.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

Settled into those post-Christmukkah, pre-New Years doldrums? The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

I’ll bring a menorah, we’ll all say the barucha, and then we’ll unwrap a pitcher of Manny’s.

Comments

  2. 2272

    Roger Rabbit hardly ever attends DL due to traffic problems caused by crowds of admiring fans, papparazzi, and process servers. It’s safe to say, though, that Ann Coulter and her retinue won’t be there adding to the congestion. She’s a chickenshit who hides out in her New York apartment and won’t even walk to the corner deli because she’s afraid of being assassinated. There’s about as much chance she’ll show up at DL to arrest Roger Rabbit for being a Democrat, as there is of prr showing up, or Mark the Redneck paying his gambling debts!

  3. 2273

    Mr.* Coulter’s fears of being assassinated are overblown. He’s* no John Lennon.

    * Have you noticed his adam’s apple?

  6. 2276

    I see prr is back, and stinking up the litter box again, after hiding from a 9 1/2-lb. bunny for several weeks.

  9. 2279

    It’s nice to see the DL invitation posted a little earlier. I almost always see them Wednesday morning. It’s not that it would really be that hard to remember, but c’mon… I’m a Jewish Seattle Progressive… I must have an IQ of what? like 10?

  10. 2280

    Ahh, Rabbit,

    I’ve been reading some of your backlogs todays and noticed that you seeemed to have been glued to this board overv the past couple weeks. Great evidence of what a lonely loser you actually are. Apparently no-one saw fit to include your pathetic bitter ass in their holiday plans.

  11. 2281

    Story today that natural gas prices have fallen 23% in the past week. Tell me moonbats, is that because of Senator Windfalls’s awesome political power to intimidate oil companies, or is there some other mechanism at work??

  13. 2283

    Belltown – Really? You mean supply and demand? That whole macro-economic thing? Nah…

  14. 2284

    PI is running a big sob series on the plight of the poor. Today’s installment is about old ladies having to work. I read some of the other articles and some common factors jump out:

    1) Most of them have little education.
    2) Most of them have few marketable skills.
    3) Many of them have drug and booze problems, either now or in the past.
    4) Many of them have lots of kids.
    5) Most of them never gave a thought to saving for their futures.
    6) Many of them admit to having lived beyond their means for most of their lives.

    Many of you moonbats like to attack me for saying that economic poverty is nearly always preceded by poverty of character. Yet, in the PI series, it’s on parade for all to see.

    My question is this: Is there ever a point where people should take responsibility for their lives, to make investments in themselves, to plan for the future, and to make good choices? Or, is it always the responsibility of the Producers to pay for the choices of the bad choice crowd no matter how stupid they have been?

  16. 2286

    MTR’s poverty of character saddens me. You’d hope a little grace might have found him, especially at this time of year.

  19. 2289

    MTR @ 11, any adjustment in energy prices only occur because those who own production have decided to increase or decrease supply.

    Massachusetts latest to take aim at Sempra.

    Fears gas crisis is scam to raise prices

    Seniors Freeze While Traders Reap Hot Bonuses

    John Q Public is being ripped off royally. The only reason there might be any relief from high energy prices is because members majority political party up for reelection next year have told the Corporate bosses to cool it, at least for now.

  20. 2290

    `If one of your countrymen becomes poor and is unable to support himself, help him as you would an alien or a temporary resident, so he can continue to live among you. Do not take interest of any kind from him, but fear your God, so that your countryman may continue to live among you. You must not lend him money at interest or sell him food at a profit.

    -(Leviticus 25:35-37)

    This is my favorite, and I’m not even a big “Leviticus” guy.

  22. 2292

    VA @ 15 — Yes, the responsibiity of the Producers is to sell 50% of the action to each of three different backers, and then try to make sure the show flops.

    Hmmm.

    Could that be what really happened in the Bush/Cheney transition office?

  23. 2293

    Ogg- I figured your argument would come up. So in other words, GWB is behind this because he’s a puppet of the oil companies and he did because his ratings are down.

    how many moonbats agree with Ogg?

  26. 2296

    I must admit that it is a tall order to be as attached to a blue blankey as Gene Wilder, or to have quite as wild a look in ones eye as Zero Mostel when he says to Bloom “What was that you said? NO, I mean about making a big profit from a flop.”

  27. 2297

    C’mon righties, if GWB is such a great president, you can sign it:


    The Loyal Citizen’s Contract With the American Government:

    “I (the undersigned) believe President George W. Bush when he says that the United States of America is fighting a ‘new kind of enemy’ that requires ‘new thinking’ about how to wage war. Therefore, as a loyal citizen of President Bush’s United States, my signature below indicates my agreement to the following:

    “1. I believe wholeheartedly in the Patriot Act as initially passed by Congress in 2001, as well as the provisions of the Domestic Security Enhancement Act. Therefore, I grant the FBI access to:

    “a. my library records, so it may determine if I am reading material that might designate me an enemy of the nation;

    “b. my financial records, including credit reports, so it may determine if I am contributing monetarily to any governmentally proscribed activities or organizations;

    “c. my medical records, so it may determine if my prescriptions, injuries, or other conditions are indicative of terrorist activity on my part;

    “d. any and all other personal records including, but not limited to, my store purchases, my school records, my web browsing history, and anything else determined as a ‘tangible thing’ necessary to engage in a secret investigation of me.

    “I agree that I do not need to be notified if my records have come under scrutiny by the FBI, and, furthermore, I agree that no warrant is needed for the FBI to engage in this examination of my personal records. Additionally, I agree that the FBI should be allowed to monitor any groups it believes may be linked to what it determines to be terrorist activity.

    “2. I believe that the President of the United States has the power to mitigate or set aside any and all laws passed by the Congress and that he has such power granted to him by his status as Commander-in-Chief in the Constitution as well as the 2001 Authorization of Military Force, passed by the Congress, which states that the President can use ‘all necessary and appropriate force’ in prosecution of the war. Therefore, I grant the United States government the following powers:

    “a. that the National Security Agency, under the direction of the President, may tap my phone lines and intercept my e-mail without warrant or FISA oversight;

    “b. that the President may hold me or other detainees without access to the legal system for a period of time determined by the President or his agents;

    “c. that the President may authorize physical force against me or other individual detainees in order to gain intelligence and that he may define whether such physical force may be called ‘torture’:

    “d. that the President may set aside any and all laws he sees as hindering the gathering of intelligence and prevention of terrorist acts for a period as time determined by the President, including, but not limited to, rights to political protest.

    “I agree that the Judicial and Legislative branches should be allowed no oversight of these activities, and that such oversight merely emboldens the terrorists. I also agree that virtually all of these activities may be conducted in complete secrecy and that revelation of these activities amounts to treasonous behavior on the part of those who reveal these activities to the press and the citizenry.

    “3. Finally, this document is my statement that I believe the President of the United States and the entire executive branch, as well as all departments and agencies involved, as well as all of their personnel, will treat these powers I have granted them with utmost respect. I believe that these powers will not be abused, nor will any of the information I have given them permission to examine be misinterpreted. However, should such abuse or misinterpretation occur, I agree that such actions are mere errors and no one should be subject to investigation, arrest, or employment action as a result.

    “My consent freely given,
    “(Your signature)”

  28. 2298

    Goldy,

    I’d buy you a beer, but it is year-end and I just gave the Red Cross $1,040 (I wonder if I triggered an IRS audit for nuanced cynicism).

    Belltowner @17

    That passage is meant to convey one’s desire to see the poor achieve an elevated status. You know the proverb by Confucius; Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime…

    “Considering” the poor does not translate well into the political tactic of calculating what it will cost you to buy their vote.

  30. 2300

    How ’bout this one?

    Christmas time is here, by golly
    Disapproval would be folly,
    Deck the halls with hunks of holly
    Fill the cups and don’t say “when”,
    Kill the turkeys, ducks and chickens
    Spike the punch, drag out the Dickens
    Even though the prospect sickens
    Brother, here we go again.

    On Christmas Day you can’t get sore
    Your fellow man you must adore,
    There’s time to rob him all the more
    The other three hundred and sixty-a-four,

    Relations, sparing no expense’l
    Give some useless home utensil
    Or a matching pen and pencil,
    Just the thing I need, how nice,
    It doesn’t matter what it is or
    How sincerely felt the sprit
    Sentiment will not endear it
    What’s important is – the price,

    So, let the raucus sleigh bell jingle
    Hail our good old friend Kris Kringle,
    Driving his reindeer across the sky
    Don’t stand underneath when they fly by.

  31. 2301

    Just so the joos don’t feel left out

    I’m spending Hannukah in Santa Monica,
    Wearing sandals, lighting candles by the sea.
    I spent Shavu’ot in East Saint Louis,
    A charming spot, but clearly not the spot for me.

    Those eastern winters, I can’t endure ’em,
    So every year I pack my gear and come out here til Purim.
    Rosh Hashana I spend in Arizona.
    And Yom Kippur way down in Mississipper.

    But in December there’s just one place for me.
    Amid the California flora I’ll be lighting my menorah.
    Like a baby in its cradle I’ll be playing with my dreidel,
    Spending Hannukah, in Santa Monica, by the Sea!

    Here’s to Judas Macabeus, boy if he could only see us,
    Spending Hannukah, in Santa Monica, by the Sea!

  34. 2304

    marks @ 27

    Read your potato chip story. Very funny. Nothing like a bunch of bored sailors is there?

    Happy New Years. You squid!

  35. 2305

    Belltowner@ 20–
    I enjoy the Book of Leviticus too. Leviticus is the third of the five Old Testament books ascribed to Moses. It is also called “The book of the Law of the Priests” in that it contains very little historical information, but is mostly priestly legislation and the practice of the law among the people. It records God’s instructions, given at Sinai, for worship by His people. See Exodus for information on the dates and origins of this book. Leviticus addresses two groups of people, the priests, and the people as a whole. There are three major themes taht can be identified throughout the book. The first theme can be summarized by the word ‘Holy’. This word is used 87 times in the book, and shows that the true importance of worship is more than just ritual. The second theme is summarized in the word ‘Sacrifice’. This word, or words meaning the same (e.g. offering) is used more than 300 times. The final theme is ‘attonement’, which appears some 49 times. In studying Leviticus, these three key themes help to define how we can better understand our relationship with God, what He has done for us, who He is, and what He expects from us. Happy Bible-studying!

  37. 2307

    Geez, here’s a conundrum for the girlz who run the Feminist Utopia of Washington (FUWA)…

    The anti smoking nuts now want to make smoking an issue in child custody cases. They want to make it a factor in deciding who gets custody and they want to set rules on smoking behavior when the non custodial parent gets visitation.

    So this will be real interesting… will the FUWA girlz allow ANYTHING to interfere with mothers getting custody (and the money that comes with it) or will they look out for “the best interests of the child”?

    My guess is that they’ll show that they don’t really give a shit about kids and will do some great gymnastics in the process to defend mothers’ behaviors. It’ll be real entertaining.

  38. 2308

    10

    “I’ve been reading some of your backlogs todays and noticed that you seeemed to have been glued to this board overv the past couple weeks. Great evidence of what a lonely loser you actually are. Apparently no-one saw fit to include your pathetic bitter ass in their holiday plans.”

    My Christmas was just fine, thank you! I even found a gift salad under my tree!!! As for the glue, yes, I had a little Super Glue accident here a while back, but the veterinarian assured me over the phone that a new layer of skin and fur will grow in 12 weeks or so, and I’ll eventually shed the outer layer and get unstuck.

  39. 2309

    11

    “Story today that natural gas prices have fallen 23% in the past week. Tell me moonbats, is that because of Senator Windfalls’s awesome political power to intimidate oil companies, or is there some other mechanism at work??”

    I haven’t been following that story. When did the indictments come down? How many of Cheney’s pals are going to jail this time?

  40. 2310

    23

    “Ogg- I figured your argument would come up. So in other words, GWB is behind this because he’s a puppet of the oil companies and he did because his ratings are down. how many moonbats agree with Ogg?”

    I don’t know about humans, but any rabbit with common sense would figure that if Cheney’s “energy task force” had nothing to hide, Cheney wouldn’t be trying so hard to hide it.

  42. 2312

    Rog@38 sez
    “My Christmas was just fine, thank you! I even found a gift salad under my tree!!! As for the glue, yes, I had a little Super Glue accident here a while back, but the veterinarian assured me over the phone that a new layer of skin and fur will grow in 12 weeks or so, and I’ll eventually shed the outer layer and get unstuck.
    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 12/27/05 @ 6:01 pm”

    Hey Rog, I thought your favorite glue was “airplane glue” cuz it helps you get all wound up for another exciting night of posting on HorsesAss.org!!! Life ain’t worth livin’ without airplane glue and HorsesAss.org according to Clueless the KLOWN!

  43. 2313

    How many Bush officials to screw in a lightbulb?

    None. There’s nothing wrong with that light bulb. There is no need to change anything. We made the right decision and nothing has happened to change our minds. People who criticize this light bulb now, just because it doesn’t work anymore, supported us when we first screwed it in, and when these flip-floppers insist on saying that it is burned out, they are merely giving aid and encouragement to the Forces of Darkness.

    — John Cleese.

    ’nuff said.

  44. 2314

    Hi! My name is Larry The Cable Guy! To make a long story long, I was born in the back of an El-Camino during a Foghat concert many years ago! My mother was normal mother just like anybodys. She cooked, cleaned, kissed us goodnight, and was an Elvis impersonator on weekends! She actually looked more like the girl that played “Ralph The Carpenter” on Green Acres than Elvis, but she loved Elvis and actually sounded a little like him when she sang “Teddy Bear”. She never won a contest, however one time no one else showed up and she took 3rd. My father saw action in World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the Falklands, and a Wal-Mart in Jackson, Mississippi! He lost a leg in a car accident in 1986. He rolled over three times and wound up in a ditch, and that was just walking to the car! He’s been sober ever since, and since he only has one leg, he’s been working at a brewery making hops!

    I grew up in a good Christian home, I love freedom, the United States of America, Miss September and making boobs out of Playdough! I do political social commentaries on radio stations throughout America, and on this very web page! I started on a station in Tampa Bay and have been adding more stations every year! People ask me two questions. Number one, why are you called “The Cable Guy” and number two, how many licks does it take to get to the Tootisie roll center? Number one, I’m called Larry The Cable Guy cause my name’s Larry and I used to install cable. Number two, forty five, unless your Rosie O’Donnell, then you just eat the stick all in one crunch. I ran for president in ’92, ’96, and am currently running again. I also ran for state senate in Florida, but ran outa money at a strip club in Daytona Beach! I’m the only candidate that tells it like it is! I feel that if you don’t address the problems with true talk, then nothing will ever get solved. Nowadays the candidates talk the talk, but when it comes to walkin the walk, they trip and stumble like Ray Charles in a pumpkin patch!

    I don’t believe in solving problems by throwin money at them. I think political correct people are not solving problems but part of the problem and creating more! I believe I just pooped my pants! I believe in less government and more state control! I believe people should take personal responsibility. I believe all the telletubbies is queer, not just the purple one! I believe in the right to bear arms! Not only against scumbag criminals, but also against a tyrannical government! I believe my speling sucks! I believe Mary-Ann was a better piece of ass than Ginger! I believe that we are gradually losing personal freedoms and that if this trend continues, we will be living in a world of corporate socialism! I believe in a strong military, the Dukes Of Hazzards, and that chicken fried steak and gravy taste better than a cheerleader on game day! (I apologize) I believe the media stirs the fires of racism for ratings, and that they have sold there soul and this country out for their own gain! I believe Jesse Jackson, janet reno, Ted Turner, and the New Hollywood squares are all spawned from the devil himself! (Notice Janet Reno doesn’t even deserve capital letters) I believe in free speech, especially 900 numbers!

    My fellow Americans, remember, the more we become dependent on government as mommy and daddy, the more government has you under their authority just like mommy and daddy! I believe in America, and I believe in the people that live in it, and I believe if you don’t like my site, than you’re a commie and you need to get your fat ass off it!!

    That’s my story and my beliefs. I’m not racist, I’m not hateful, and I’m not homophobic! I’m just a concerned commentator wondering what happened to the free America that my forefathers fought and died for! Git-R-Done and GOD BLESS MY FANS AND THIS COUNTRY!!

    Larry The Cable Guy

  46. 2316

    GBS,

    Best wishes (and I mean it; may your new year be blessed).

    Try to stay off the glass (you may remember the signs about sailors and grass?)…

    BTW – My wife still jokes about the squid thingy…

  47. 2317

    It’s very interesting the way the so-called moral majority, in all their religious piety, regard humanity in the Darwinian sense. Interesting, as in, what a bunch of fucking hypocritics, that is. Oh, did I say fucking? Oh, excuse me. I beg pardon of all fucking moronic republicans on the day they learn humility.

  48. 2318

    MTR
    I am praying that not only do you not have custody of any kids but that you arn’t visiting any kids either. We don’t need any more male chauvinists in this world. Thank heavens your spouse got out in time, I hope it was in one piece, because I wouldn’t put anything past someone who talks like you do.

  49. 2319

    41

    I cant say I disagree.

    Having been screwed over by the custody system in California though, I hate for them to introduce yet another element to the system that will muddy the waters….

  50. 2320

    I’ll bring the movie “Munich” to play for you so you can begin to understand the threat that islamic terrorism like Iran wanting to wipe Israel off the face of the earth can bring.

  51. 2321

    @48

    I agree with you and MTR about the craziness of smoking with custody. But then, there are rumors circulating about a future bill in our legislature calling for outlawing cigarette smoking in your house if you have children under 21 in your house. Who thought the cigarette nazi’s would stop at 901? They also want to outlaw smoking in your cars.

    Who said you can do what you want in the privacy of your home, that only applies in Democratic states, which Washington isn’t these days! This is the nanny state from hell where they will legislate and regulate every thing you do or say.

  52. 2322

    50

    Well i quit in 91, and my mom is dying from lung cancer, so i dont have a great love for cigarettes.

    I have often wondered if the dangeras are so real, why it is not banned. The answer is easy: Money, not just to the politicians (republicans have taken 81% of the 31 million this last year) but also to the retailers and other beneficiaries.

    Also the federal and state governments gain billions in tobacco taxes, which if banned, would be hard to replace.

    But if the lawmakers in washington dc dont have the balls to just outlaw tobacco, we might as well expect an ever restrictive environment.

    As long as it is legal, I think the restrictions are hypocritical, but it wont stop them. So it is the world we live in.

  53. 2323

    42

    “Hey Rog, I thought your favorite glue was “airplane glue” cuz it helps you get all wound up for another exciting night of posting on HorsesAss.org!!! Life ain’t worth livin’ without airplane glue and HorsesAss.org according to Clueless the KLOWN!”

    I don’t know anything about airplane glue, but you seem to have expertise in this subject.

  54. 2324

    If the anti-smoking folks got their way, nobody would smoke. But then there’d be no revenues from tobacco sales either. Something tells me our tax-loving government wouldn’t like that.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

Be there or be thirsty. (I’ll be there.)

Comments

  2. 2326

    How many New Orleansd blacks will be drinking with you “progressives”? Will “Tookie” be there [in spirit]?? Should your daughter be in an urban public school so she can get “diversity” from future Democrat “Tookies”??

  5. 2329

    I hate it when irony and hypocrisy meet.

    I am fairly confident they have never met. Ironic folks seek to expose hypocrisy (it’s part of the gig), and hypocrites don’t know what irony is.

  6. 2330

    Roger Rabbit seldom attends DL, and when he does, never sees prr or prr’s lawyer there.

  8. 2332

    Goldy—
    I hope you keep drinking until your VICTIMIZATION attitude goes away permanently! Son-of-a-BEEACH it gets old. Maybe one last purging about how you were personally victimized by the Holocaust while living in prime Philadelphia real estate. Get it all out, get drunk as a skunk, kill off those “I’m a VICTIM” brain cells and turn over a new leaf starting about noon tomorrow (when most LEFTIST PINHEADS wake up!)

    Perhaps you CLOWNS call all share your New Year’s Resolutions???
    Clueless will undoubtedly desire to remain clueless.
    Some of you other CLOWNS may resolve to come out of the closet in every which way….Christian-haters, learn the difference between an ENTRANCE orafice and an EXIT orafice etc. etc.

  9. 2333

    I’d be there but I am going to a leftist, commie, Christian-haters association meeting where we will be chanting Happy Holidays as loudly as we can just to piss off all the right wing, chickenhawk theocrats!

  11. 2335

    6

    I’m not worried, because Rossi lost. We have a governor committed to using the budget surplus to shore up pension funding, instead of giving tax breaks to high income taxpayers.

    Anyway, as previously noted, the problem is in PERS 2 and 3, which doesn’t affect Roger Rabbit. PERS 1 is fully funded.

  12. 2336

    Goldie, thought you might want to see these posts, as a topic of discussion for Drinking Liberally tonight. Discuss, Enjoy!

    Hi Folks!

    Once again, you die hard repulicans are bashing only part of the people responsible for the ‘shared-gain pension’ snafu.

    a little research by Stefan (and an honest attempt at the truth and non-partisanship) would have provided the following info:

    DINO ROSSI VOTED TO APPROVE THIS PLAN! The link below is from the state senate archives, and shows that a 48-0 vote in the senate.

    http://www.leg.wa.gov/pub/bill.....llcall.txt

    So, let’s hear the same diatribes against saint dino. Not on this board!

    Posted by rossi too at December 13, 2005 02:41 PM

    Stefan posts: “Some astonishingly stupid decisions by the Washington Legislature in 1998 have left a $4.9 billion deficit in the state public pension system.”

    wha?? Is Stefan saying that Dino Rossi makes astonishingly stupid decisions?

    Why, yes, yes he is!

    Posted by rossi too at December 13, 2005 02:46 PM

  13. 2337

    The only way to “save” those pension plans that are in trouble is to convert them to defined contribtuion plans with whatever the vested balance is right now, if possible. At least with a defined contribution plan, the workers will have an owneship stake and possible something they can reoo-over to an IRA later. Defined benefit plans are going the way of tail fins on cars. Defined contribution is better than having a “promise” from government.

  14. 2338

    roger and deniers…

    Wasn’t last governor also a Dem….how come you all underfunded the pensions?

  15. 2339

    I expect to hit DL tonight, but only after attending my nephew’s middle school Winter Concert, where he’ll be featured as half of an oboe duet. If the standing O goes too long, I might decide that it’s too late to drop by at Montlake.

  16. 2340

    I’m taking a break from DL for the rest of the year – family, work, holidays, whatnot. Best!

    C ya’ll next year!

  20. 2344

    this years winner of the darwin awards……….not a surprise they are from washington state. enjoy…they didn’t….poor guys. see how dangerous it is to combine alcohol and a low IQ. all of you remember this at drinking liberally tonight……..

    Now, THIS YEAR’S WINNER:
    >
    > (The late) John Pernicky and his friend, (the late) Sal
    Hawkins,
    >of the great state of Washington, decided to attend a local Metallica
    >concert at the George Washington amphitheater. Having no tickets (but
    >having had 18 beers between them), they thought it would be easy to
    “hop”
    >over the nine foot fence and sneak into the show. They pulled their
    pickup
    >truck over to the fence and the plan was for Mr. Pernicky, who was 100
    >pounds heavier than Mr. Hawkins, to hop the fence and then assist his
    >friend over.
    >
    >
    >
    > Unfortunately for (the late) Mr. Pernicky, there was a
    30-foot
    >drop on the other side of the fence. Having heaved himself over, he
    found
    >himself crashing through a tree. His fall was abruptly halted (and
    broken,
    >along with his arm) by a large branch that snagged him by his shorts.
    >Dangling from the tree with a broken arm, he looked down and saw some
    >bushes below him. Possibly figuring the bushes would break his fall,
    he
    >removed his pocket knife and proceeded to cut away his shorts to free
    >himself from the tree. Finally free, Mr. Pernicky crashed into holly
    >bushes. The sharp leaves scratched his ENTIRE body and now, without
    the
    >protection of his shorts, a holly branch penetrated his rectum. To
    make
    >matters worse, upon landing his pocket knife penetrated his thigh.
    >
    >
    >
    > Hawkins, seeing his friend in considerable pain and agony,
    threw
    >him a rope and tried to pull him to safety by tying the rope to the
    pickup
    >truck and slowly driving away. However, in his drunken haste, he put
    the
    >truck into reverse and crashed through the fence landing on his friend
    and
    >killing him.
    >
    >
    >
    > Police arrived to find the crashed pickup with its driver
    thrown
    >100 feet from the truck and dead at the scene from massive internal
    >injuries. Upon moving the truck, they found John under it half-naked,
    >scratches on his body, a holly stick in his rectum, a knife in his
    thigh,
    >and his shorts dangling from a tree branch 25 feet in the air.
    >
    > ~~~~~~~~~~
    >
    > Congratulations, gentlemen. You win.

  21. 2345

    Nin sez:
    “I expect to hit DL tonight, but only after attending my nephew’s middle school Winter Concert, where he’ll be featured as half of an oboe duet. If the standing O goes too long, I might decide that it’s too late to drop by at Montlake.
    Comment by N in Seattle—”

    You are either one sick bastard….or a great Uncle!
    Perhaps you ought to go drinking BEFORE the concert!

  22. 2346

    clueless sez:
    “I’m taking a break from DL for the rest of the year – family, work, holidays, WHATNOT. Best!
    C ya’ll next year!
    Comment by For the Clueless— 12/13/05 @ 3:05 pm

    WHATNOT means jerking off to this month’s National Geographic!

  23. 2347

    christmasghost@19
    That is hysterical!!
    Typical of those DO-GOODER LEFTIST PINHEADED CLOWNS.
    They mean well….but everytime they try to actually do something besides talk, they F*CK IT UP ROYALLY!!!
    These CLOWNS have the NEGATIVE MIDAS TOUCH!
    Know what that is, don’t you??
    CLOWNS can take a 200 lb. bar of PURE GOLD and turn it into a wretched, smelly pile of steaming sh*t with their mere GOOD INTENTIONS!

  24. 2348

    Shouldn’t the Democrat Jewish lawyers sue “Big Alcohol” for all the damage liquor, beer, and wine has caused? You know, like all the tobacco lawsuits. Where is the Democrat law firm of Goldbergstein, Loeb, Weiner, and Swaartz? Should you libs be drinking when Democrat blacks in New Orleans have nothing? How are the Democrats going to pay for the buses to return homeless black Democrats to New Orleans to vote? Finally, who is going to get stuck with the bar tab because all Democrats are “victims” and someone else must pay?

  25. 2349

    cynical…i thought you would enjoy it. i notice a strange silence coming from some on here wondering if i could be right and maybe their IQ’s aren’t quite up to snuff for tonight’s “fun”……..
    heh heh heh……….
    i think it’s that whole “holly up the ass” part….merry christmas you scrooges…….. ;)

  26. 2350

    Hey Wabbit – Didja notice gas prices are WAAAAAAAAY down? Remember back coupla months ago that December unleaded futures were about $1.96? Remember that? Today I paid $2.05. And since the futures price is wholesale, that works about about right.

    So while you delerious moonbats were out there calling for rationing and price controls and outlawing SUVs and paid rigodamdiculous prices for those foolish hybrids our old friend the invisible hand was out there doing his thing. Hell, before Senator Windfall could even orchestrate a grandstanding exercise to showcase her ignorance of free markets, the invisible hand had it handled. Ain’t free markets great?

    Or do you delerious moonbats think I’m wrong? If so, “educate” me. I can’t wait…

  27. 2351

    I’m wondering what’s the party affiliation of the office manager, whatsisname, on NBC’s “The Office”. That guy is painful! He’s such an asshole, I’ll bet he’s freakin’ republican.

  28. 2352

    Oooo!! I’m a deleeereeeous moooonbat! Oooo!!

    !!..BOO..!!

    “Education is the sleeping pill that makes dreams happen” –Peggy Hill

  29. 2353

    Wells sez:
    “Oooo!! I’m a deleeereeeous moooonbat! Oooo!!”
    Ummmmmm….it’s been painfully apparent from the day that seagull sh*t on the sidewalk and you hatched out.
    Thank you wells…..it’s occassionally helpful for you to state the obvious….and PROVE IT at the same time!

  30. 2354

    Mr Cynical, you need medication. Usually, I recommend counselling for the mentally disturbed, but in Mr Cynical’s case, medication would be better treatment for his irrational anti-social behavior. Get help, Mr Cynical, before you become a statistic on a police chart. And don’t go to church people for help. Those people are evil.

  31. 2355

    RR, That’s exactly what the United Airlines retiree’s thought about their Defined Pension benefits just before the hammer came down on them. Never feel too secure in your gov pension!..

  32. 2356

    GS – You’re wrong. Gummint pensions are garnteed by the “full faith and credit” of taxpayers. That means that no matter what happens, us “rich guys” are gonna get stuck with the bill. Funny though, I don’t remember promising this. I must have been at WORK that day earning the money that they’re so greedy about. Must be nice to be gummint employee and have everything garnteed by The Producers.

  34. 2358

    Mark, The Answer: Return ALL “guvment” employees to the Social Security System. Fuck them like they fuck those in the private sector. [I can hear the Democrat “guvment” hacks bitching all the way across the Pacific!!!!!!!!!]

  35. 2359

    26 – Redneck, I no longer believe in peak oil scenarios – there’s plenty of oil and a fair amount of natural gas however there’s rising demand and it’s likely to keep oil prices above $50 a barrel.

    Higher oil prices are good – I’ve been in favor of higher taxes on oil to incentivize cleaner alternatives forever – so China and India are forcing what the politicians were too chicken or paid off to do.

    Now it’s up to people to make the right choices and for the sake of the planet they’d better choose non-carbon based alternatives – yeah like nuclear power (just kidding).

  36. 2360

    6 (continued)

    Pension mismanagement seems to be a purely GOP phenomenon, and Republicans aren’t running our state pension system, thank God.

  37. 2361

    Pension mismanagement sure as hell isn’t an act of God or nature, and it didn’t happen while Democrats were guarding the chicken coop.

  38. 2362

    6 (continued)

    On Reagan’s watch, S & Ls were looted to the tune of $500 billion; with wingers in power again, this time they’re going after pension funds and the Social Security trust fund. You gotta admire (in a manner of speaking) the Republican crooks for thinking big.

  39. 2363

    12

    “Stefan posts: ‘Some astonishingly stupid decisions by the Washington Legislature in 1998 have left a $4.9 billion deficit in the state public pension system.'”

    Hmmm. The state pension systems lost about 7% of asset value in the 2000-2004 market downturn; I wonder if Stefan did as well in his personal investments.

  40. 2364

    14

    “Wasn’t last governor also a Dem….how come you all underfunded the pensions?”

    Because the national recession caused a drop in state revenues, and the Republicans controlling the state senate opposed any tax increases to adequately fund pensions and state services.

    I’m not saying the Dems should have raised taxes, righton. In fact, I’m thankful they didn’t. But you get what you pay for, and if we taxpayers don’t want to pay for adequate pension funding when the economy is down, then obviously we have to play catch-up after the economy improves.

    State employees also went without pay raises during those years.

  41. 2365

    20

    Scratch 2 eastern Washington redneck Republicans! I feel for their families, but … the gene pool is improved by their absence.

    Speaking of Darwin awards, I kind of enjoyed (in a manner of speaking) reading about the yahoo who jumped head-first off a 70-foot high railroad trestle on a 90-foot-long bungee cord.

  43. 2367

    26

    “Hey Wabbit – Didja notice gas prices are WAAAAAAAAY down?”

    Nope, I haven’t. I have two powerful hind feet to get around on; why would I need to buy gas?

  44. 2368

    26 (continued)

    Gas was a buck when Bush took office, and Le Redneck is bragging because now it’s only $2.05??? Whatever.

  45. 2369

    32

    “GS – You’re wrong. Gummint pensions are garnteed by the ‘full faith and credit’ of taxpayers. That means that no matter what happens, us ‘rich guys’ are gonna get stuck with the bill.”

    That’s riiiiiiight … if the state doesn’t pay, I’ll tow away your SUV! And you think I was dumb to work for the gummint … ???

  47. 2371

    34

    Seriously, do you think the supply of oil is endless?

    Half of world production comes from a half-dozen supergiant oilfields, all of which have been in production for 50 to 75 years. The last supergiant was discovered in 1972, and most petroleum geologists believe there are none left to be found. It is well established that Hubbert’s Curve accurately describes the production life cycle of individual oilfields; why wouldn’t the same logic apply to the planetary supply?

  48. 2372

    roger you are full of crap on the S&L…

    Mostly Dems that allowed the S&L’s to unlink safe deposits from safe loans. I think DeConcini (dem) plus his kin were deep in dog doo doo for letting it happen

    right?

  51. 2375

    @48…

    Nothing! Dems should stand up and support nuclear power. It’s preferable on all fronts.

  52. 2376

    So Wabbit, you agree with me that all the delerious moonbat talk about rationing and price controls and outlawing SUVs was stoopid. And you agree that Senatator Windfall displayed an amazing level of ignorance? And you agree that free markets are always always always better than moonbat meddling. Right?

  53. 2377

    What is so “wrong” about nuke power? Done right, it’s by far the most efficient method of producing power.

    Now remember who yer talkin to here… if ya give me the Jane Fonda version, I’m gonna shove it up yer ass. So be real sure what yer sayin….

  54. 2378

    @53, MTR

    I don’t know anything about you, but I guarantee you I fight like hell and I will use anything that I lay my hands on to knock you out, to include cast iron skillets, and I’m sure you know what they are…………

  55. 2379

    IRAQI BORDER GUARDS SEIZE FORGED BALLOTS // Iraqi border police seized tanker truck Tuesday night that had just crossed from Iran filled with thousands of forged ballots…{Democrat Howard Dean and Teddy Kennedy show the Iraqis how it’s done!!!!]

  56. 2380

    Clueless @35

    Now it’s up to people to make the right choices and for the sake of the planet they’d better choose non-carbon based alternatives – yeah like nuclear power (just kidding).

    Why are you just kidding? As the leading producer of nuclear resources, surely we can harness the vast potential for our own needs.

  57. 2381

    Geez sgmmac – what did I say? I thought you moonbats hated violence cause it doesn’t solve anything? What gives?

    Use yer cast iron skillet. Do you know what a “JHP” is? Dat what I use…

  58. 2382

    Hey – Did you moonbats hear they had elections in Iraq today? How bout that. Democracy taking hold inna middle east instead of the whole region run by asshole dictators. Looks like President Bush’s plan is working out pretty much like he planned.

    Now isn’t this fundamental change in approach and policy light years better than the stoopid “Peace Accords” that Nobel Prize winning Worst President of The Twentieth Century did?

  59. 2383

    Hey moonbats – Tell me, does is suck to be wrong about everything? And is it even worse when somebody like me throws it in yer face?

  60. 2384

    47

    True because as long as the super giants keep producing (through enhanced recovery) the oil companies don’t bother to drill. There’s a lot of the Middle East especially in Saudi Arabia that hasn’t been drilled. Case in point, Iran just found another 100 billion barrel field.

    The United States on the other hand is the most drilled petroleum basin on the planet. I don’t think Saudi Arabia comes close to the U.S. in terms of holes drilled.

    Production has generally kept pace with demand and in the last few years has soared. Field reserves have a tendency to be conservatively estimated and are mostly revised upward.

    Michael C. Lynch is the analyst to read on oil supply. He pretty much debunks the peak oilers like Campbell, Simmons, Laherrere. He’s convinced me.

    Oil shortage is more a political and economic problem than anything else. The greater threat to me is climate change and America losing its economic competitiveness in the world so we can no longer afford importing oil or afford developing the alternatives. American should be leading the world in developing and exploiting the alternatives. The result would be a cleaner richer and more livable planet. The remaining oil, gas and coal should stay in the ground.

  61. 2385

    Re nuclear power: I don’t like it for two reasons. 1) it costs too much and 2) it’s too dangerous but not for the reasons most people think.

    1) Nuclear power plants are enormously expensive. Billions of dollars have to be put at risk before the first watt flows through the wires. As a result nuclear power is heavily subsidized by all the nations that have adopted it. Nuclear power wouldn’t have gone anywhere in the U.S. without massive subsidy and it died here not because of TMI but because after 100 or so plants the taxpayer just stopped writing checks.

    2) Most of the cost of nuclear power is just protecting the biosphere from the nuclear pile but if nuclear power was really adopted in the way nuclear engineers want through breeder reactors and waste re-processing – you have a huge nuclear weapons proliferation threat. Ever wonder why Warren Buffet the insurance man is so worried about nuclear proliferation?

    NO THANKS! NO NUKES!

  62. 2386

    57 – Redneck, pull your head out of your ass. You’re the one who lost a bet remember? Did you drink Sharkansky’s kool-aid on the election contest? Who turned out to be right there?

    It’s great that the Iraqis are taking things into their own hands now! We can pull our soldiers out of the meat-grinder now right? We can stop making “collateral damage”. Let the Iraqis sort it out for themselves? They can handle it can’t they?

    Yes, Bush can declare victory and bring the soldiers home just in time to make hay for 2006.

  63. 2387

    “Gummint pensions are garnteed by the ‘full faith and credit’ of taxpayers. That means that no matter what happens, us ‘rich guys’ are gonna get stuck with the bill.”

    That’s riiiiiiight … if the state doesn’t pay, I’ll tow away your SUV! And you think I was dumb to work for the gummint”

    I bettr get me a job wit da gummint, I gots two teethe a missin, but i cen spit alder wy axross da rome. cin ya get me a 10k raise too?

    I heer tell the fait of citicens in da gummint is fadin a bit in dees heer otter en o da state places.

  64. 2388

    Marks @ 54

    Yes, we’ll see a few more new nukes by 2015 or so pumping a lot more Gigawatts. I think Duke Energy has just about committed

  65. 2389

    @55, MTR

    I asked what’s wrong with nuclear power and you said:

    “Now remember who yer talkin to here… if ya give me the Jane Fonda version, I’m gonna shove it up yer ass. So be real sure what yer sayin…. ”

    So, I replied that I fight back!
    I’m not a moonbat, but I do live in a moonbat county (Thurston.)
    I also live in a damn Nanny state! The things I have to put up with to live with trees………..

  66. 2390

    JFC sgmmac! – ya sure twisted up the thread. I the Redneck one aksed what wrong wif nuke power. And of course the answer is that nothing is wrong with it unless you drank the kook kool aid. I can’t tell…. are you agreeing with me that nuke power is a good answer?

    Mrs. sgmmac – can you check his meds before he replies again?

    Here’s the deal: Nuke power engineered correctly, and without interference from moonbat politicians and activists is a safe and cost effective way to generate shitloads of power cheaply. This is NOT an area where Senator Dimbulb or Senator Windfall needs to stick their noses in… this is a complex engineering problem that they are woefully ill equipped to deal with. The kook activists of the 70s had a real effective strategy of fucking up nuke plant projects. What they did, was wait for projects to get a few billion dollars into design and construction and then change the rules. That’s what happened to WPPSS. They had the plants half built, and then they had to go in and rip stuff out and do it again because the design standards changed. Of course, none of it had any real effect on safety, but it made it look like the politicians were “doing something” and in the process it killed the whole thing. Free from kook moonbat interference, and left to the engineers, we can build nuke plants that are safe.

    On the safety side, TMI was a nothing event as Nobel Prize winning Worst President of The United States assured us. As a USN nuke engineer, this was one of the few areas he actually understood. For those of you who don’t know either because you’re too fucking stupid or don’t care… Chernobyl happened because the Russians were running an unauthorized and obviously stupid test where they turned off ALL the safety systems on purpose. Duh…

  67. 2391

    It’s not New-clee-er, numbnuts. It’s New-kew-ler. And when the nukular good stuff is all used up, the waste is good for people killing, especially them Middle Easterner folks that don’t like the American way of life. They hates us and they don’t love Jezus, so they’re goin’ to hell anyways. They’re in the way of us gettin’ our oil, so screw ’em, as the ol’ Texas sayin’ goes.

  70. 2394

    MTR, You must be drinking very liberally – at home and it’s probably too much for you.

    My post at 48 is : What’s wrong with nuclear power?
    Comment by sgmmac— 12/13/05 @ 6:33 pm
    I was directing it at Roger and For the Clueless.

    Your post at 52 is: What is so “wrong” about nuke power? Done right, it’s by far the most efficient method of producing power.

    Now remember who yer talkin to here… if ya give me the Jane Fonda version, I’m gonna shove it up yer ass. So be real sure what yer sayin….
    Comment by Mark The Redneck— 12/13/05 @ 6:53 pm

    Now, your post is 20 minutes after mine, so I assumed you were threating to do me harm….. There isn’t any Mrs sgmmac. I am female. I am clueless as to what a “JHP” is, but I’m not too worried about it, because I got something for any man who thinks he’s going to hurt me.

  71. 2395

    Nuke power engineered correctly, and without interference from moonbat politicians and activists is a safe and cost effective way to generate shitloads of power cheaply.

    Terrific O all knowing Redneck! Then the nuclear industry can finance all the costs of new plants themselves including insurance and waste management without a frickin’ DIME of taxpayer subsidy like the 13 BILLION earmarked for the nuke industry in the last Energy Bill.

    Remember Papa Reagan? He did all kinds of things for the nuke industry and it didn’t generate one order because his old rival Gerald Ford started asking industries to think about producing the same amount of output only using less energy otherwise known as efficiency (most people call it conservation). Conservation used to be a Republican value!

  72. 2396

    MTR

    Yes, I support nuclear power. When I was a teenage hippie, I told my Dad I was going to a protest against nuclear power.
    He had fit! It was well justified considering the fact that he worked at the Nevada Test Site with nuclear weapons. I lived and worked right beside a nuclear power plant in Germany for three years. As for the rules changing, I think that the US is lawsuit crazy, and it is troubling that public projects can get put off indefinitely and end up costing millions and billions more because of rabid citizen groups.

    My Dad also doesn’t like me talking about Karen Silkwood……

  73. 2397

    I’ll say it again with a REAL BIG BIG DUUUUUUHHHHH

    Gain-sharing “seemed like a good idea at the time. For some reason, we did not understand it was going to cost us,” said House Appropriations Chairwoman Helen Sommers, D-Seattle.

    Duhhhhhh
    Duhhhhhh

    Who are we paying that the did not understand that gain sharing would not cost them.

    Well I have two answers to this problem:

    1. How about a loss sharing, meaning if it ain’t there don’t spend it, and decrease the Defined benefits.

    2. How about canning the Defined Benefit all together. Freeze it and bring it in line with the benefit trends which are widely spread across this nation.

  74. 2398

    I heard that 5 democrats drowned when there pick up truck left I-5 and went into the water. Washinton state patrol says the deaths were caused when the democrates could not get the tail gate to open.

  75. 2399

    way back when, concerning my intention to observe my nephew’s concert performance, Cynical said:

    You are either one sick bastard….or a great Uncle!
    Perhaps you ought to go drinking BEFORE the concert!

    Who would go drinking before the concert, Cynical, the sick bastard or the great uncle?

    I, unlike you, happen to be the latter.

  76. 2400

    49

    “What’s wrong with nuclear power?”

    1. Radioactive waste
    2. The nuclear industry’s poor track record on safety
    3. $500 million liability cap on nuclear accidents

    This last one is a deal killer. It shifts the financial risk of a nuclear accident to surrounding property owners who have no say in plant operation. If you want to put my home at risk, then I get to run the plant. No liability, no insurance = no plant!

  77. 2401

    51

    Thomas, I’ll support nuclear power if you’ll let me drive your car with no insurance. See #76 above.

  78. 2402

    Roger,

    Can’t the insurance be raised? Is that insurance limit in the new energy bill and does it apply to the new plants that they are going to build? They are building a new nuclear waste plant in Nevada under a mountain.

  79. 2403

    52

    No, I won’t say scarce resources should always go to the highest bidder, or that government should never resort to rationing and price controls. During World War 2, gasoline, tires, and other strategic commodities were rationed because they needed to be redirected from civilian markets into the war effort; and the federal government controlled both wages and prices in order to prevent the explosive inflation that would have resulted from all the war production wages sloshing around in an economy that had few consumer goods available because the military was soaking up the nation’s productive output. Would a free market have worked better then? I doubt it. The nation was fighting a war of national survival, and the government needed to have extraordinary control over its resources, including labor and materiel.

  80. 2404

    78

    Instead of capping nuclear operators’ liability, Congress should make them carry a substantial amount of insurance. Locating nuclear plants away from population centers would help keep down liability exposure and insurance costs.

  82. 2406

    60

    While I agree with much of what you say, the supply is not limitless, and consumption is growing exponentially.

  83. 2407

    60 (continued)

    Of greater concern, National Geographic quoted one scientist as saying, “we’ll run out of atmosphere before we run out of fossil fuels.”

  86. 2410

    Like I said, Thomas, no liability = no plant. No business that wants me to bear the financial risk of an accident at their plant will ever be welcome in my neighborhood.

    Thomas, this issue isn’t hard at all. Instead of trying to disguise the true cost of nuclear power by dumping the insurance risks and costs on the plant’s neighbors, these costs should be paid by the plant operator and borne by the consumers of the plant’s power. Liability insurance is a cost of doing business that should be borne by the business and its customers.

    I reiterate: No liability, no plant. This is non-negotiable.

  87. 2411

    So I guess all you fringies, fruitcakes and WA Dem party apologizers and excusers have some apologies to make…. I believe you’ll find paragraphs 3 through 5 most pertinant and hopefully most humbling.

    Right.

    We won’t wait.

  88. 2412

    Dear WA State GOP, Please save the above referenced article and any original images you have regarding the hate perpetrated against the Christians of our once fine state to expose the vicious, hateful democrats in any/all upcoming election campaigns.

    I might add you’ll also want to reference the racist leanings of the illegitimate queen, ‘please-soften-my-image-NOW!-chris… I understand she dressed as Willy Wonka for halloween so she wouldn’t frighten the little kiddies ….has she lost her hood??

  89. 2413

    aimed at “people who claim to be pro-life but are for the death penalty.”

    Seems to be about right. Pro-war too. Any war that is Republican in origin that is. The more people that die in a Republican-started war the better the wingnut feels.

    Apologies

    Never to a hateful sore-losing ASS like ASS!

    Oh by the way, she’s making a difference.

  90. 2414

    Dear Mayor and Seattle council and Goldy

    Can you save that $3.8mm extra and spend it on your dire need transportation instead?

    what’s up w/ that?

  91. 2415

    Dear Righton (WrongOne),

    You don’t live in Seattle do you? Playing busybody, the favorite pastime of a loser?

  92. 2416

    @87L “You would never see anything on a Republican web site demeaning Judaism or the Islamic faith”. (Ericksen, R-Bellingham)

    Oh sure. The Republican representative of the 26th District walked out at the beginning of a legislative session because the opening prayer was offered by someone of the Islamic faith, and she made disparaging remarks about Islam, within earshot of many people, while doing so. She didn’t apologize until the press picked it up.

  94. 2418

    @89 Savior for Blondes,

    There are conservatives who are pro-choice. I am one. I am for the death penalty, but I do have some concerns about it being a fair punishment.

  96. 2420

    Slayer is perfect for the NeoCons who were exiled in the think tanks during the Clinton years. Here’s the lyrics to “Raining Blood”, pretty appropriate for the neocons:

    Trapped in purgatory
    A lifeless object, alive
    Awaiting reprisal
    Death will be their acquisition

    The sky is turning red
    Return to power draws near
    Fall into me, the sky’s crimson tears
    Abolish the rules made of stone

    Pierced from below, souls of my treacherous past
    Betrayed by many, now ornaments dripping above

    Awaiting the hour of reprisal
    Your time slips away

    Raining blood
    From a lacerated sky
    Bleeding its horror
    Creating my structure
    Now I shall reign in blood!

  97. 2421

    Savior of Blonds

    I still prefer Metallica! You think Republicans like blood, murder, power, all of the above?

  98. 2422

    wellssuz @ 30 sez:
    “Mr Cynical, you need medication. Usually, I recommend counselling for the mentally disturbed, but in Mr Cynical’s case, medication would be better treatment for his irrational anti-social behavior. Get help, Mr Cynical, before you become a statistic on a police chart.
    Comment by Wells— 12/13/05 @ 5:08 pm”

    “Statistic on a police chart” sounds like a threat to me.
    Are you one of those ELF and ALF CLOWNS that believes in violence as a FIRST resort???? Seriously, veiled physical threats are bad…..this one isn’t even veiled!!! You are the one in need of counseling A$$hole!! Try this first:
    http://www.shantimai.com

  99. 2423

    Thomas T@50 sez:
    “Mr. Cynical – You need to be *more* cynical to keep that nom de plume.
    Comment by Thomas Trainwinder— 12/13/05 @ 6:42 pm”

    I tend to soften up a bit around Christmas, Easter and Martin Luther King’s Birthday. If you expect this “compassionate conservative” facade to last and you are probably mistaken. But, I suppose I MIGHT consider a New Year’s Resolution to be a tad kinder and gentler towards those intellectually challenged CLOWNS among us!

  100. 2424

    Nin @ 75 sez:
    “way back when, concerning my intention to observe my nephew’s concert performance, Cynical said:
    “You are either one sick bastard….or a great Uncle!
    Perhaps you ought to go drinking BEFORE the concert!”
    Who would go drinking before the concert, Cynical, the sick bastard or the great uncle?
    I, unlike you, happen to be the latter.

    Comment by N in Seattle— 12/14/05 @ 12:08 am

    I don’t have to drink Nin. I get high just laughing at your BS!!
    I laugh so hard, it makes me feel light-headed!
    It’s so amusing to sense the anger of the LEFTIST PINHEADED CLOWNS towards those of us with a different view of the world. You CLOWNS get so uptight, it would take a John Deere Tractor to pull a pin outta yer ass! Lighten up. Diversity really isn’t a bad thing. One of your many problems is you endlessly PREACH for DIVERSITY, yet when you get it, you want Goldy to shutdown folks like me. Which is it Nin???? Kind of a moral dilemma, isn’t it. Take your que from Roger Rabbit…..he may be a bit ornery and thick-headed….but he has always stood up for opposing viewpoints being expressed.

  101. 2425

    Suck on this CLOWNS;
    “State Democratic Party Chairman Paul Berendt said he first found out about the hypocrite fish posting on Friday when someone from KIRO radio called to ask him to go on the air to give an explanation.

    “The moment I became aware of it, I insisted it be taken down,” Berendt said Tuesday. “I’m sorry if anyone was offended. It’s embarrassing.”

    Berendt said the item had not been “properly vetted” and was on the Web site for less than 48 hours. He said the party didn’t even have any of the magnets in stock.

    “We didn’t sell any of them, and we’re not going to,” he said.

    State Rep. Doug Ericksen, R-Bellingham, put out a news release Tuesday criticizing the Democrats for posting what he described as an “anti-Christian” symbol.

    “It’s just amazing that they have people sitting in their office who think that way,” Ericksen said. “You would never see anything on a Republican Web site demeaning Judaism or the Islamic faith.”

    The fish magnet is copyrighted by a Mount Vernon company called Reefer Magnets. The company mostly sells magnets with pro-marijuana messages such as “Hemp is Patriotic” and “Jesus is coming, roll another joint.”

    Berendt said he wasn’t sure what the fish symbol is supposed to mean but said he thinks it is aimed at “people who claim to be pro-life but are for the death penalty.”

  104. 2428

    102
    Well, I would prefer if Israel takes care of Iran and if their President doesn’t shut up, that may be sooner than later.
    I support the war in Iraq, but I wouldn’t support taking on Iran, and Syria and every other little pissy country in the region. The terrorism may continue but the Iraqi’s hopefully can handle that soon.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Tonight is “Smoke ’em if you got ’em” Night, in honor of Initiative 901, which goes into effect on Thursday. (The Ale House is smoke free until 9PM.)

I don’t believe I’ll be smoking, but I’ll definitely be there enjoying some fine ale.

Comments

  1. 2429

    Will Democrat “Tookie” Williams be there to give each and every one of you “progressives” a little “Tookie” love underneath the table?? Happy AIDs Day, Democrats!!

  2. 2430

    Will any disheveled Windermere people be there (folks living at the office, so they can vote…)

    Or dwarfs? Oops, i meant little people, who dwell in Mailboxes

    Or that homeless guy who lied, then recanted about living at the mailbox place…

  3. 2431

    well…i hope you all enjoy your D-R-U-G-S…..while clebrating that another drug cannot be used there.
    closet elitists all…………

  7. 2435

    belltowner…short answer….YES.
    it’s hypocritical to the max to be so self rightious about cigarettes, don’t you think?
    when was the last time someone got in a car and lit up a ciggie and mowed down a family of five…..HMMMMMMMM?

  8. 2436

    Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL, and never announces his appearances in advance due to traffic problems caused by the crush of admiring fans, papparazzi, and process servers.

    prr never attends DL due to buh-uck buck cluck-cluck, and always conspicuously announces the appearances he didn’t make.

  10. 2438

    @ 8

    Well, when I have 8 beers, the waitress doesn’t get cirrohsis is the liver.

    And we’ve made smoking inconvenient, not illegal. We tried making booze illegal. How’d that one work?

  11. 2439

    roger..are you sure that you and josef aren’t one and the same? the only admirer you seem to have is yourself. quit patting yourself on the back so hard you might break your arm [or leg]…..

  12. 2440

    Goldy===
    Kind of strange your filter won’t let me post Mirecki’s full e-mail that caused the uproar.

  13. 2441

    Belltowner………when you have eight beers the waitress gets a huge headache because [unbeknownst to you] you become the world’s biggest and ,when driving, most dangerous BORE.
    eight beers huh? i hear they have treatment for that…..it’s called re-hab.
    and everyone with half a brain knows that you are trying to make smoking illegal. and besides….answer my question. talk about junk science here….second hand smoke??? most of the parents in my generation smoked all the time and i don’t know anyone with lung cancer etc. have you been to europe lately [ever]????
    the “science” is skewed………
    you will get more damage to your lungs visiting new york or seattle for a week…..that’s just a fact.

  14. 2442

    I’m sure legislature will make some changes to the smoking law to iron out obvious problems. IIRC even the initiative sponsors conceded that it might be a little overly strict, but that they were forced to this because efforts to get it through legislature were deadlocked.

  15. 2443

    Ghost @ 14

    closet elitists all…………

    Hey Ghost did you get a gander at Cunningham’s house? Nice place, huh? Do you live in a place like that?

    What about his furnishings? French commodes? Oops – wingnut faux pas. Bill O’Reilly won’t be pleased.

    What about his wheels – a Rolls. Stylin’… Saville Row suit, cigar, cognac, car phone… Slick..

    And his yacht.. Republican cool… Heard he lived there for a while.

    Do you have those kind of things Ghost? Do you live in his district? If you don’t, better hurry down there – you might be able to pick those things up at fire sale prices – the best kind.

  17. 2445

    belltowner …people that drink to excess [and eight beers is excess] have a problem. period.
    and for the clueless….boy oh boy…your name really does fit doesn’t it? are you geographically or reading challenged or both?
    number one [unlike you idiots] i think cunningham is a SWINE even though he was a republican. can you say that about anyone in your “tribe” , hmmmmm? that would be a ‘no’……..
    no. 2……california is a very large state. we could use washington as sink sponge. so as i have repeatedly said i live in far northern california…humboldt county.cunningham is from san diego area……we are polar opposites geographically.look at a map.
    as for your other questions…do i live in a house like his?no…i grew up in a bigger house than that but now i live very happily in a wonderful old 1915 craftsman. do i have a yacht? yes…i do, it’s for sale…do you want to buy it? it’s a large sailboat.
    as for your premise that only republicans live like cunningham …have you heard of little billy gates? ted kennedy?
    do any of your “ideas” ever have any substance? that’s my question for you…you little scarcity thinker you………
    and P.S…you should stop watching o’reilly…he is a complete idiot.

  18. 2446

    @12

    “roger..are you sure that you and josef aren’t one and the same? the only admirer you seem to have is yourself. quit patting yourself on the back so hard you might break your arm [or leg]…”

    It’s hard to believe anyone could confuse me with Josef the Whinocrat, but xMasGhost is capable of anything, it seems.

  19. 2447

    Ghost…. Whatever. Now, get off your daddys computer, and go get your homework done. Moron.

  20. 2448

    PUBLIC NOTICE

    One of our trolls, xMasGhost, has thrown down the glove! Specifically, the Vaporous One alleges that Roger Rabbit has no admirers except himself!

    Therefore, to prove Thin As a Mist wrong, I request that a representative sample of my admirers make themselves known by posting as follows:

    I admire Roger Rabbit
    I like Rog
    The Rabbit rocks!

    or words to that effect.

  21. 2449

    http://www.time.com/time/archi.....34,00.html

    But it was all Mike Brown’s fault according to Goldstein.

    More and more coming out now about how Blanco screwed up with the buses in the wake of Katrina. Bu hey libs, just head on down to Driking Liberally and swill five or six beers. It won’t be long before you get a good buzz going and get back to that happy place where everything is all Bush’s fault.

  22. 2450

    Roger Rabbit —

    I love you, man! In that manly, heterosexual, Goldy kind of way, of course!

  23. 2451

    Goldy et. al.,

    Maybe advertising you’re meeting place on this blog isn’t such a good idea. You’re giving complete strangers detailed info as to where you’ll be and when you’ll be there. There are a lot of nutcases out there. Be careful.

  26. 2454

    Not nutty enough to risk our red skins wading through the swill around Montlake…

    Comment by righton— 12/6/05 @ 3:27 pm

    I take it you are not a Husky booster.

  27. 2455

    Roger Rabbit is one of the most informed and entertaining posters on this comment board. The Rabbit rocks!

  30. 2458

    There are a lot of nutcases out there. Be careful.

    Thanks for your concern Libertarian. This blog called the election contest correctly, got Mike Brown to resign and put the charlatans David Irons and Stefan Sharkansky in their places.

    That’s quite a record and some might conclude that would create enemies crazy enough to act on their fantasies.

  31. 2459

    Well, I see that Kerry is back to bashing the American troops again. He complains that the troops knock down doors at night in Iraq but he hasn’t figured out that it’s a sure-fire way to catch terrorists unawares. Kerry was wounded three times and received three Purple Hearts in Viet Nam. Asked about the severity of the wounds, Kerry said that one of them cost him about two days of service, and that the other two did not interrupt his duty. Boy, all that killin’ ‘n rapin’ ‘n torture sure is a hard day’s work!

  32. 2460

    @15
    They did NOT have to make it so strict. They did it because they know better for you, than you. I am boycotting all restaurants and bars for one year.

  33. 2461

    @21
    Roger, I got your back, Army veterans stick together! When you need someone to come fight with you, call me! I’ll hop up there to Seattle and we won’t talk about you being a wild liberal bunny or me being a uptight conservative……
    HOOAH!

  34. 2462

    Belltowner, I don’t know about drinking “libertarianly,” but I DO brew my own beers and ales at a place in Silvedale. It’s fun, and the beer usually is excellent.

    I guess you can say I am a liberal consumer of my own concoctions.

  35. 2463

    Hey libbies; fantasies fueled by yourselves…

    Nobody tkaes you that seriously; nobody coming to mess with you after “exposing” brownie.

    But Area 51 could use some spotters; please move their if your conspiracy theories won’t abide. I head they have a Diebold machine down there too..

  37. 2465

    Mr. Cynical@13: You said “…kind of strange your filter wouildn’t let me post Mirecki’s full e-mail”

    It was posted on the “Kansas Professor…” thread at #174. So Quit your silly ass whining, crybaby.

  38. 2466

    Maybe we should drink to Tom DeLay’s upcoming trial? After all, America has been well served by his indictment. Now that he couldn’t even get a hand picked republican judge to throw out the most serious of the charges against him, he’s toast.

    Do you think he’ll look good in orange? Too bad the rest of the traitors and cowards in the GOP aren’t going down with him.

  39. 2467

    We could talk about the latest christowingy nuttiness sweeping the country, i.e. boycotting stores who put up “holiday trees” instead of “Christmas trees.”

  40. 2468

    I love you too, RR. And you write coherently and entertainingly, more than I can say for those trolls that overuse the CAPS key and seem to have no sense of humor.

  42. 2470

    Rabbit man,

    What are these holiday’s anyhow? I only know of Christmas and Hannaukauh. I think Festivus is only on TV.

  43. 2471

    Bush: Intel Will Free U.S. Hostages

    DNC’s Dean: U.S. Will Lose War in Iraq
    NYC Awash in Fake IDs
    McCain Tops Clinton in Quinnipiac Poll
    Bill Clinton as Junk Food Czar?

    With 525,000 illegal immigrants in New York City, the Big Apple is awash in fake IDs, with much of the phony document trade centered in a single neighborhood in Queens.

    “Roosevelt Avenue is like the mecca for fake documents,” state Assemblyman Jose Peralta tells the New York Sun. “If anybody comes through New York City and they ask, ‘Where can I get a false document?’ the no. 1 answer is going to be Roosevelt Avenue. It’s the place, it’s the spot.”

    The Department of Homeland Security said it is aware of the problem, but explains that document fraud knows no geographic bounds.

    “Roosevelt Avenue is one of the primary areas in New York City to buy false documents, but it is not limited to any borough, or any immigrant community, and it is not new,” Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman Mark Thorn told the paper.

    Exacerbating the situation, illegal immigration into the US now tops legal immigration, according to a recent study by the Pew Hispanic Center in Washington. [Another 500,000 New York Democrat votes!! Maybekerry could bus a few thusand illegals to help the Democrats in Ohio. Democrats: determined to turn the USA into a third world shit hole!]

  44. 2472

    Xmasghost
    I like Rog.
    Check out his posts on the “Strategy for Victory” thread, specifically those dealing with the Kurdish situation. He displays a depth of knowledge that most trolls posting here lack.

  45. 2473

    JOHN Kerry campaign insiders are blaming some of the high-profile people surrounding the candidate for helping President Bush win re-election.
    A prime target of the finger-pointers is Kerry’s filmmaker daughter Alexandra, who made a splash at the Cannes Film Festival last spring when she appeared on the red carpet in a see-through dress. She then hired a pricey publicist at powerhouse agency PMK — on her dad’s dime, sources say — and went on the campaign trail.

    But insiders snipe that all she did was rack up major expenses. “She had an entourage of five people with her everywhere she went,” one Kerry confidant sniffed to PAGE SIX’s Jared Paul Stern. “A hairdresser, makeup artist, publicist and two assistants. It ended up costing something like $8,000 a month. And she didn’t exactly do anything.” [Democrats love to spend other people’s money, that is, money they did not earn themselves. Using “guvment” to tax, and spending the funds on themselves is a Democrat’s wet dream!!!]

  46. 2474

    If Democrats hate “Big Tobacco” and need to shake down this industry for billions, why not shake down “Big Alcohol” as well? Maybe Goldysteinburg’s Democrat New York Jewish lawyer friends should sue “Big Automobiles”, “Big Drugs”, and “Big Fast Foods” as well!! GM and Ford need to be sued so they will lay off another 30 to 50 thousand employees right before Christmas!! Then Goldy and Friends, ESQ can blame Bush!!!

  47. 2475

    Oh Yeah!!!! Goldenstein and Friends, Democrats, ESQ need to sue the gun manufacturers [Colt, Winchester, etc] and the brokerage firms and anyone who makes chocolate and ice cream. Put these capitalist pigs out of business. And I saved the best for last!!! Goldenstein, Loeb, Goodman, and Bloomberg, ESQ need to sue all the doctors so they will retire, except when Goldy needs a doctor. If no doctors will take Democrats Goldy, ESQ [et al]. then the same Jewish layers can sue for discrimination and demand medical treatment, so they can sue again!! Get it?? [hehe]

  48. 2476

    THIS IS ELECTION DAY IN SPOKANE

    The recall of Spokane Mayor Jim West is on the line tonight. We should know the results shortly after 8 p.m.

  49. 2477

    When your wife needs and OB/GYN, call a Jewish trail lawyer to deliver the baby!!! Don’t call a doctor, as they have all been driven out of business by Jewish Democrat trail lawyers. Enjoy, POS Democrats!!!!

  50. 2478

    Oh, don’t forget John “Sue the doctors and hospitals” Edwards [Democrat, Breck Boy]. Not Jewish, and made his living suing doctors. Too bad when his wife got breast cancer the medical community didn’t tell him to piss off!! Off to Walter Reed for Mrs. Edwards!!! [Democrats: can’t shoot them, but we sure wish we could!!!]

  51. 2479

    “Gregoire Will Keep MacDonald As Highway Chief

    “December 6, 2005
    “By KOMO Staff & News Services

    “OLYMPIA – Gov. Christine Gregoire announced Tuesday that she’s keeping hard-charging Doug MacDonald as the state transportation director, praising his agency’s ability to bring road projects in on time without huge cost overruns.

    “…Twenty projects have been completed in the past few years, all on time and within a half-percent of being within budget, the governor said. … ‘”I do believe there is a lot more accountability and he has listened to our pleas for more information from that agency.'”

    http://www.komotv.com/stories/40619.htm

  52. 2480

    I had a very interesting conversation about holiday trees and christmas trees with a great poster here. I even learned something or two more about the origins of my Tannenbaum! I don’t like the term holiday tree, it’s a christmas tree. That’s our history and tradition and I don’t like seeing it changed just to be pc. A christmas tree to me has never had anything to do with Christ. If I learned anything in the Army, it was to respect all religions, customs, and traditions. In Germany, (Home of the first Christmas tree) they hang a pickle on their tree, and on christmas day, the child who finds the pickle gets an extra present! Of course, the pickles now are glass ornaments. Last year, when we were decorating my 10 foot christmas tree, I missed Germany so bad, I went in the kitchen and cooked up a batch of Gluh wine, it’s a hot and spicy red wine! We really don’t win anything as a people or as individuals if we suppress all cultures and religions. Intelligent Design isn’t a myth, it isn’t a science, it is a religious explanation for the creation of human beings and the planet we live on. Nobody knew anything about creation when the bible was written. Somebody needed to explain something to people’s questions. Darwin has some holes in his theories too. There are some pretty different cultures in our world today and different doesn’t mean bad.

  53. 2481

    CONGRATS TO COURTNEY GREGOIRE …

    … on passing the summer bar exam. The Washington State Bar Association published a list of successful examinees in the new issue of The Bar News that Washington lawyers received in their mail a couple days ago.

  54. 2482

    47

    Let’s shake down JCH. I’ll bet if we grab him by his legs, turn him upside down, and shake, some coins will fall out of his pockets. Might be enough there to pay for a round of drinks at DL!

  55. 2483

    RR@48: My Spokane friends tell me that Republican Mayor Jim, ‘stick it to ’em, West is probably goin down. I can’t understand why Puddybud hasn’t shown more interest in this?

  60. 2488

    Yes, that’s why I said he’s in trouble for goin down. He looks sissy to me….. If you’re gay and you’re Republican you have a problem, but it is ALWAYS better to tell the truth, before your opponents out you to the media.

  61. 2489

    The City of Olympia just elected an openly gay city councilman by an overwhelming majority. I’m not against gays, but if you’re stupid enough to hide it and make degrading remarks about gays, you deserve what you get!

  62. 2490

    Oil and gas Companies are Republican Evil and must not be permitted to enter the state of WASH!! Say “NO!!” to gasoline, heating oil and natural gas!!! Say “YES” to Hillary!! [hehe Democrats: economic idiots!!]

  63. 2491

    47

    Let’s shake down JCH. I’ll bet if we grab him by his legs, turn him upside down, and shake, some coins will fall out of his pockets. Might be enough there to pay for a round of drinks at DL!

    Comment by Roger Rabbit — 12/6/05 @ 6:23 pm [Roger, don’t you need “guvment” to shake down Republicans to pay for your drinks?? I welcome you to “turn me upside down”!!! [hehe…..The result: one “broken Democrat “victim” Rabbit”!!!]

  65. 2493

    Roger Rabbit is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.

  66. 2494

    sgmmac “Intelligent Design isn’t a myth, it isn’t a science, it is a religious explanation for the creation of human beings and the planet we live on.”

    So you do agree it has no place in our science classes?

  67. 2495

    Roger Rabbit, if your rabbit hole gets too filled with fuzzy baby bunnies, I would be proud to adopt one.

  68. 2496

    sparky@20…….my daddy’s computer? get real man. if you have nothing to say…don’t say it.
    and roger…..HA HA HA [to quote you]…that wasn’t a glove baby…it was my lucky rabbit’s foot being thrown down.
    missing any relatives?

  69. 2497

    @65
    Yes, Donna, I don’t recall being taught about God in my science classes, if I remember correctly it was my parents and grandparents.

  70. 2498

    52: smgmac.
    Now here’s a myth afterall. No one in Germany is putting a pickle on the Christmas tree. Trust me. Yes, they do make glass ornament pickles in Germany, but only for export to the US. No self respecting German is putting any pickle on that tree :-)

    http://german.about.com/library/blgermyth11.htm

    And Gluehwein is wonderful…warms you up and gets you into the Christmas spirit. :-)

  71. 2499

    Donna @65

    So you do agree it has no place in our science classes?

    Only as long as you are not the model for intelligent design…man, cancel my subscription…

  72. 2500

    Donna,

    Roger Rabbit, if your rabbit hole gets too filled with fuzzy baby bunnies, I would be proud to adopt one.

    man, this one was WAYYY too obvious…but here goes…

    ADOPT A HOLE? What kind of homo are you?

    (Sorry Donna, can’t let you wiggle by on this one)

  73. 2501

    46

    JCH, are you saying Kerry’s daughter spent $8,000 a month of taxpayer money on her entourage?

  74. 2502

    @71
    The pickle could very well be a myth. They do sell pickle ornaments all over Germany though. Every christmas market, (Kriskindlmarkt) that I have ever been to has them, along with radishes, and every other fruit and vegetable that you can think of. They also have real candles with candle holders for trees, and the very best is their clip on birds, which I have hundreds of……. Gluehwein is wonderful, especially at night with the lights and the vendor stands and the snow. Leavenworth sells the same brand of gluehwein that I used to buy in Germany at the garden store by my house. You have not had Christmas until you have spent one in a German town!

  75. 2503

    66

    “Roger Rabbit, if your rabbit hole gets too filled with fuzzy baby bunnies, I would be proud to adopt one.”

    I appreciate the sentiment, but between Republican bastards speeding on Green Lake Way in their SUVs, and the Parks Department fascists, I don’t think overpopulation of my burrow will be a problem. Besides, I can always dig more holes!

  76. 2504

    67

    “missing any relatives?”

    … 7,112 … 7,113 … 7,114 … 7,115 … uh oh, where’s 7,116?

    Yeah, looks like one is missing, either run over or caught in a live trap set by the Parks Department fascist bunny relocators!

  79. 2507

    74…..RR, “I appreciate the sentiment, but between Republican bastards speeding on Green Lake Way in their SUVs”,…Only the Kerrys and Kennedys should have SUVs. This is what was decided when the Kerrys and Kennedys flew their Gulfstream 5 private jets into Sundance for the Global Warming Conference. [hehe…RR and the Democrats: parasite hypocites!]

  80. 2508

    46

    JCH, are you saying Kerry’s daughter spent $8,000 a month of taxpayer money on her entourage?

    Comment by Roger Rabbit — 12/6/05 @ 8:06 pm [RR, something call “matching funds”!! But don’t worry, Ms. Kerry, with her entorage of 6, since kept “in touch” with the “common people”!!! [hehe…..Democrats: hypocite parasites]

  81. 2509

    U.S. ABDUCTED AND TORTURED INNOCENT GERMAN; HE FILES SUIT AGAINST CIA IN U.S. DISTRICT COURT

    Hey trolls, listen up, THIS is why our government shouldn’t torture people — because, you stupid fucks, they might be INNOCENT!

    “German Man Claims U.S. Tortured Him
    “Germany’s Leader Says Rice Acknowledges Mistake
    “By PETE YOST, AP

    “WASHINGTON (Dec. 6) – A German man alleged in a lawsuit Tuesday that the CIA took him to Afghanistan and tortured him after the spy agency mistakenly identified him as an associate of the Sept. 11 terrorists.

    “In the latest controversy surrounding the CIA’s ‘rendition’ program for terror suspects, Khaled al-Masri said Macedonian authorities … turned him over to the CIA … he then was flown to Afghanistan where he spent more than four months in a cell.

    ” … Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice … declined to discuss the case with reporters Tuesday, but the new German chancellor, Angela Merkel, said the United States had admitted making a mistake regarding al-Masri.

    ” … on arrival in Afghanistan, al-Masri was ‘dragged off the plane and thrown into the trunk of a car’ and beaten by his captors, he told reporters in a video hookup from Germany.

    “Then-CIA Director George Tenet was notified by the agency that al-Masri’s captivity was a case of mistaken identity, yet the man was held for another two months after his passport was found to be valid, his lawsuit alleges. The case was filed in U.S. District Court in Alexandria, Va., where Judge T.S. Ellis III, an appointee of President Reagan, will preside.

    …

    “The suit says al-Masri was held at a CIA-run facility known as the ‘Salt Pit,’ an abandoned brick factory north of the Kabul business district used for detention of high-level terror suspects.

    “During his captivity in Afghanistan, al-Masri said, he complained that the water was unfit to drink. … Al-Masri said that when he became ill, ‘they didn’t pay any attention.’ … ‘You might be buried here, al-Masri said one of his interrogators told him. His captors kept asking him if he was acquainted with Sept. 11 conspirators Mohammed Atta and Ramzi Binalshibh.

    “Defendants in the case are Tenet, 10 ‘John Doe’ CIA employees whose identities aren’t known to the plaintiffs and three private aviation companies that worked with the CIA in transporting al-Masri to and from Afghanistan. Al-Masri contends his due process rights were violated and that he was subjected to torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment.

    “‘I am asking the American government to admit its mistakes and to apologize for my treatment,’ al-Masri said in a written statement. ‘Throughout my time in the prison, I asked to be brought before a court but was refused. Now I am hoping that an American court will say very clearly that what happened to me was illegal and cannot be done to others.’

    “The scope of the CIA’s rendition program has not been publicly disclosed. However, Amnesty International contended Monday that six planes used by the CIA for renditions had made some 800 flights in or out of European airspace, including 50 landings at Shannon International Airport in Ireland.

    … ”

    http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/new.....5109990013

  82. 2510

    SPOKANE MAYOR JIM WEST OUSTED FROM OFFICE

    Early returns indicate a 65% “yes” vote in favor of recall, 35% “no.”

  83. 2511

    More on Spokane recall election …

    Total ballots mailed: 110,589
    Ballots returned: 60,413
    Votes in favor of recall: 38,718
    Votes against recall: 20,681

    Sources: KIRO 7 News and Spokane County Elections web sites

  84. 2512

    Spokane City Council President Dennis Hession, a lawyer, will be acting mayor until the council appoints a successor to finish the remainder of ex-mayor Jim West’s 2-year term.

  85. 2513

    Because the Spokane recall election is a mail ballot election, more ballots may come in; but the “yes” votes for recall already exceed an absolute majority of the total ballots mailed.

  86. 2514

    Makes you wonder what 20,681 Spokane Republicans were thinking, though. I guess they think using a government office to solicit gay sex is OK as long as a Republican is doing it. After all, they think torture and corruption are OK when Republicans do it. As Forrest Gump would say, “Stupid is, as stupid does.”

  88. 2516

    @83
    Gen Honore says “What are you, stuck on stupid?” You are being nice to Mayor West though, I think I rad that he was giving away jobs for sex, or making job offers for sex, it was more than just looking or soliticing.

  89. 2517

    83

    Why should democrats have a monoply on soliciting sex in a government office. If it is good enough for Clinton well why not. Oh I know why, the republicans have a conscience.

  92. 2520

    just imagine, spokane vote likely accurate…

    If Dean the Dream was counting, heck Kerry might be the new mayor..

  93. 2521

    84

    Positions on the Nooksack city council are non-partisan, so I can’t determine whether Mr. Knutsen is a Republican or a Democrat. However, I have lived in Whatcom County, and I know the small exurban towns there tend to be Republican and conservative. In any case, Mr. Knutsen was legally elected to the council but apparently lost his eligibility to serve when was forced to move from his home on W. 1st Street in Nooksack to an apartment in Bellingham due to divorce. I don’t know whether Nooksack (pop. 864 as of 2004) even has a single rental unit.

    Mac — for all you or I know, Mr. Knutsen may be (I would guess he probably is) a long-time resident of Nooksack. He may have lived there all his life. He may even be a pioneer descendant, as outsiders tend not to move to places like Nooksack; there’s not much there to attract new residents, certainly not jobs. He may have every intention of moving back to Nooksack as soon as he can find housing.

    Mr. Knutsen obviously cares enough about what happens there to donate his time to civic activities like serving on the city council. Let’s face it, in a town with about 200 voters, the talent pool isn’t real deep and they’re lucky to find people like him willing to serve for no pay. Mr. Knutsen is not a lawyer, and probably didn’t realize that moving outside the town limits ended his qualification to serve on the council. He probably thought he was doing nothing wrong.

    Nevertheless, the law’s the law.

    What’s more remarkable than Mr. Lynn Knutsen’s departure from the Nooksack city council is the fact that Stefan has nothing better to do than delve into local matters like this while Rome burns all around him.

  94. 2522

    Reply to 86

    Since you don’t think being abducted, tied up, tossed on a plane, flown halfway around the world to Afghanistan, thrown into a hell-hole, fed garbage and putrid drinking water, being beaten, and having your medical needs ignored isn’t “torture,” let’s do it to you and see how you like it.

    Golden Rule applies here, Mac.

  95. 2523

    86 (continued)

    False arrest is false arrest. Kidnapping and imprisonment are legally actionable under virtually every legal system on earth.

  97. 2525

    Doofus @85

    “Why should democrats have a monoply on soliciting sex in a government office. If it is good enough for Clinton well why not. Oh I know why, the republicans have a conscience.”

    I agree. Republicans have as much right to debase themselves and the public offices they occupy as Clinton did. They’re certainly proving that!

    DeLay – indicted
    Libby – indicted
    Abramoff – indicted
    James Tobin – indicted
    Frist – under investigation for securities violations
    Rove – under investigation in “Plamegate”
    Cunningham – in prison for theft and tax evasion
    etc. …

    (I could go on, but we all know this is a very long list)

  98. 2526

    As Doofus solicitously pointed out, when Republicans get into public offices, their behavior is no better than Clinton’s.

  100. 2528

    84 (continued)

    A more constructive use of Stefan’s time would be explaining to the generous donors to his “legal action fund” why he isn’t going to share the proceeds of the lawsuit they paid for with them.

  101. 2529

    Before you guys go off the deep end… let me remind you… again…. Bubba was impeached and disbarred NOT for his conduct in the Oval Office with his Skank D’jour, but rather because he attempted to conceal a pattern of predatory behavior when he lied to a Grand Jury in connection with a felony assault case that he settled for $800k. Spin it however you want, but them the facts.

    West was stupid as was Bubba. But Bubba was a criminal too which West is not. Big difference…

  102. 2530

    92

    You call those lies a list… hahahahaha

    Here is a list for you

    Perjury- He admitted to it
    Paula Jones
    Troopergate
    Whitewater
    Vince Foster
    Chinese Campaign contributions
    FBI filegate
    Ron Brown investigation
    Sandy Burgler
    Linclon Bedroom
    Teamsters scandal
    Johny Chung- California business man campaign fund raising scandal
    Gennifer Flowers
    Juanita Brodrick-
    Travelgate
    Espy
    Henery Cisneros
    Frank Rich Pardon
    Rose Law Firm billing scandal- Web Hubbell

    And that is just from Clinton alone. Most of his cronies were just as corrupt as he was. We republicans have a lot of catching up to do.

  103. 2531

    WSSC SHITCANS RINGHOFER’S ATTEMPT TO RECALL SAM REED; LABELS RECALL PETITION “FRIVOLOUS”

    The Washington Supreme Court, in an opinion that uses the word “frivolous,” rejected gadfly Martin Ringhofer’s attempt to recall Secretary of State Sam Reed because of the 2004 governor’s election.

    The court dismissed 6 of Ringhofer’s 9 charges against Reed on the grounds Reed isn’t responsible for “the past conduct of a wholly separate governmental agency” that is “beyond his knowledge or ability to direct.”

    The court dumped charge 7 (Reed failed to require counties to submit written reconciliation narratives before certifying the election) because such narratives were not required by law.

    The court dumped charge 8 (alleging Reed failed to perform duties of his office) because Ringhofer and his co-wacko, Linda Jordan, “fail[ed] to provide any legal analysis supporting any failure of Secretary Reed to act in accordance with the
    statute” and “offered no reason why the allegations contained in the charge show violations of a legal duty.”

    The court dumped charge 9 (relating to Reed’s certification of Gregoire’s hand-recount victory over erstwhile candidate and full-time whiner Dino Rossi) because county canvassing boards are responsible for certifying election results and the Secretary of State’s role in transmitting the returns to the legislature are merely “ministerial” in nature. In other words, the Secretary of State lacks discretion to certify or not certify an election. “Thus, the secretary of state has a constitutional duty to deliver the counties’ respective returns to the speaker of the house. In light of the constitution’s mandatory provisions, appellants’ charge nine would require Secretary Reed to disregard a constitutional duty.”

    Hey Martin — do you know how to pronounce

    F R I V O L O U S

    ? Sheesh. What a waste of the court’s time and taxpayer dollars. The attorney general should ask the court for Rule 11 sanctions against Ringhofer and Jordan for the state’s defense costs on this one.

  104. 2532

    A more constructive use of Stefan’s time would be explaining to the generous donors to his “legal action fund” why he isn’t going to share the proceeds of the lawsuit they paid for with them.

    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 12/6/05 @ 9:38 pm

    Use the money he received for future voter registrations challenges in KC. Put public pressure on KC to clean up or scare them away from pulling another 04. Money well spent in my book.

  105. 2533

    Hardovertoport@56: I appreciate your “mock concern” over me. The reason Le Pudster is not interested in the Jim West story is I already called him on his actions long ago. In fact if you research ASSes here, you will see most of us whom think right called West on his actions. Unlike most ASSes here, once I make a pronouncement I don’t need to continually shout it from the mountaintops.

  106. 2534

    @91
    How did they torture him. There isn’t any torture in that statement you made. They gave him bad tasting water and told him he might be buried there………. HaH! What kind of torture is that? Give me the details of the alleged torture.

  107. 2535

    RR@78: The German should sue for $500,000 and the US has to apologize. The problems of war is sometimes innocents get caught accidentally.

  108. 2536

    102

    Puddy, I understand that innocent people get hurt in war — that’s one of many reason why I’m against unnecessary wars — and I’m willing to accept that as a necessary evil of war as long as you pay them just compensaton, as you would to anyone else you harmed by your negligent or intentional act.

  109. 2537

    In other news, a federal jury acquitted a college professor who was prosecuted under the Patriot Act for having an Arab-sounding name.

  110. 2538

    Roger,

    He was NOT abducted. “Khaled al-Masri said Macedonian authorities … turned him over to the CIA … he then was flown to Afghanistan where he spent more than four months in a cell. I don’t agree with the beating. You get much better results with sugar vs salt, but that wasn’t on too many American’s minds after 9/11. But maybe, just maybe, we should assume that the CIA is innocent until proven guilty like we do everybody else.

  111. 2539

    @89
    I want to know why he was in Macedonia and why Macedonia officials arrested or abducted him. Just because he claims it isn’t him, doesn’t make it so either. Lots of guilty people get off and lots of innocent people get jailed.

  112. 2540

    @82 They could learn a few things from KCE

    “Because the Seattle election is a mail ballot election, more ballots may come in; but the “yes” votes for recall already exceed the total ballots mailed.”

  113. 2541

    Hello.

    @64

    Roger Rabbit is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.

    Comment by dj— 12/6/05 @ 7:07 pm

    DJ-How about you play a game of Solitare? ;)

    Dj, I take it you are a fan of “The Manchurian Candidate” too? The original is one of my all time favorite films, and because of that, I refuse to see the remake. (I wonder if anyone else recognized this)

    Domo

    PS-On a side note, I too am against Christmas trees being called “Hoilday trees.” It is a bit much. (And this is coming from an athiest.) People need to quit acting like they are vampires where the very image of anything possibly religious will cause them to cower in terror and pain.

  114. 2542

    105

    “He was NOT abducted.”

    Oh yeah? What do you call being detained against your will, turned over to undercover agents, bound and tossed on a plane, flown to a desolate foreign country, and thrown into a cell in “The Salt Pit?” A prom invitation?

  115. 2543

    Checking on Sucky Politics, I see that Stefan is railing against the Employment Security Department for losing a laptop with 550 social security numbers on it. I’m not a regular reader of Stefan’s shitty little blog — is anyone? — but I don’t recall him saying anything when Mastercard let 40 million credit card files get stolen. I guess it’s okay for private enterprise to compromise the personal information of 40 million people, but if a government agency compromises 550 people it’s worthy of a rant on Sucky Politics. That’s because, in Stefan’s neocon mind, private enterprise can do no wrong and government can do no good.

    Private enterprise = good
    Government = bad

    I really can’t tell you why Stefan hates government. Maybe he’s bitter because he couldn’t hack government employment. I really don’t understand why not. Over 3,800 other King County residents have successful careers as pollworkers. As far as I know, Stefan was the only one of thousands of pollworkers who couldn’t follow the instructions given to him in training and by his supervisor, and walked off the job. Stefan just doesn’t have what it takes to be a government worker, and is envious and resentful of those who do. Yeah, that’s gotta be it.

  116. 2544

    106

    Mac, are you really this dumb? Condi Rice admitted he’s innocent. He was held for months, if he knew anything or was involved in anything, don’t you think they would have beat it out of him? The case was investigated by U.S. officials who concluded they got the wrong guy, case of mistaken identity, they admitted it! Geez.

    You will go to any lengths, won’t you, to cover for this incompetent administration? If you really loved America, you would want better than this for our country, and you would agree the only honorable thing for our government to do is apologize and pay fair compensation for what they did to him.

  117. 2545

    We Americans are better than this, Mac. We expect more of ourselves than this. For several generations, we have been a shining beacon to the rest of humanity in a dark world. We were a great country. We take responsibility, we do the right thing, we don’t lie, deny, evade the truth. You’re better than this, Mac. I know you are. Think about it.

  118. 2546

    106

    Why shouldn’t he be in Macedonia? He had a valid passport. Macedonia is a tourist destination. If you travel on a valid passport to Italy or the French wine country, that doesn’t make you a terrorist. Well, in some people’s minds, it does. And that’s the goddam problem.

  119. 2547

    The poll results are in! Roger Rabbit is beloved by everyone except the trollfucks, who don’t love anyone, least of all themselves. You have to hate yourself to be a Republican!

    How can you expect self-hating trollfucks to love a fluffy 9 3/8-lb. bunny with a cute cottontail who will rip them a new belly button if they pick me up by my pink ears?

  120. 2548

    RR: I can deal with you when you are lucid. But when you don’t eat your vitamin fortified carrots or Mrs. Wabbet forces you to sleep on the couch, your blog pronouncements demonstrate your mental stress. You know you have told some WHOPPERS here.

  122. 2550

    @109
    He wasn’t abducted by Americans. He was transported by Americans to their foreign detention area operated by the CIA. After 9/11, that’s where the CIA was operating and trying to find and round up Al-Qida members. Is it ethical, probably not, but you have to look at the mind-set of our country at that time. A lot of what the government is doing is a no-win situation. Can you imagine the pure outrage if al-Masri had later blown up the DeGalle airport in France and killed thousands. The headlines would have read “Americans knew about al-Masri and did nothing!”

  123. 2551

    30 posts on this thread, starting at 1:48 pm on Dec. 6 running to 3:24 am on Dec. 7. Roger Rabbit spends a lot of time on his computer.

  124. 2552

    @110
    Roger, No, I don’t think they would have beat it out of him, because torture rarely works. It does work sometimes, though. My definition of torture is probably different than most people on this board. I personally would not beat or hurt a prisoner, nor would I watch anyone beat or hurt a prisoner without going off on the people who were doing the beating and that includes stopping them from abusing prisoners. I didn’t see any obvious tortue in the pictues of Abu-Ghraib. I saw degrading, insulting, sick, perverted and totally immoral and unethical behavior by the soldiers there. There were numerous violations of the UCMJ, which is why they are being courts-martialed. The Brigadier General in charge of those soldiers was demoted to Colonel and is no longer in the military. Who I didn’t hear of getting in trouble over it was their First Sergeant and Sergeants Major and those guys are the ones who should have been checking those soldiers on a daily basis.

  125. 2553

    We’ve been a “beacon of freedom” in the world—- except for the thousands of incidents like the 1954 CIA coup of the democratically elected government of Salvador in 1954. Americans have a weird view of how the world sees us.

  127. 2555

    @110
    Roger, I will NOT go to any length to cover for the Administration. I will try to explain what they do and why they do it. Our government has a long history of screwing people over, failing to take responsibility and failing to compensate those they have injured. I trust our Federal government as far as I have my eyes open and on trained right on them. They interred American citizens of Japanese descent in WWII. Did they apologize? Did they compensate? How many years did it take them? They used soldiers as guinea pigs in Vietnam by giving them LSD, they also gave LSD to other government workers, all without telling the people that they the drugs to. They put soldiers at the Nevada Test Site and set off above ground nuclear bombs near them to test the effects of radiation on them, and there are thousands of other examples. Yes, they should apologize and compensate! Do I think they will – nahhh!

  128. 2556

    sgmmac: Do you think the solution is to turn the world over to corporations like BOTH parties are doing?

  129. 2557

    Mac, you DO know what the Mayor West recall is all about, don’t you?

    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 12/6/05 @ 6:29 pm

    Wabbit is it because he like little boys and not girls?
    Was it because he live in a closet and wouldn’t share his dress with any of his boy friends?
    It wouldn’t be that he live in red neck country?
    Wabbit would your friends let him live in you carrot patch and dress like a lady?

  130. 2558

    Sgmmac: You forget the Tuskegee Experiment. We blacks will never forget. For forty years the US Public Health Service (PHS) conducted an experiment on 399 black men in the late stages of syphilis. Beginning in 1932, the federal government sponsored a study to examine the impact of syphilis involving black men. (Why did they only look at black men?). The experiment went on until 1972 without the test subjects’ knowledge, but no President had apologized to the volunteers and their families until President Clinton did so May 16, 1997. Notice who was president in the 1930s? FDR, the hero of the progressive leftists.

    So you all know some more history; the Tuskegee Institute, is a black university founded by Booker T. Washington.

    RugratASS, CluelessASS, Windie (No ASS on windie today. Great conversation on the other thread!!!) : Tell me you all knew this. Otherwise, still ignorant after all these years.

  132. 2560

    Another terrible week for the right. That child molester West gets shown the door, Deke Cunningham further proves that the GOP is circled by a culture of corruption and prepares to share a cell with a large man named Rufus, and last but not least, the two most important and serious charges against the cowardly liar DeLay get ready to go to trial prompting a GOP revolt to permanentlt oust him as leader. Maybe next week will bring the indictment of that other prominent criminal republican Frist followed by Bush’s Brian, Karl Rove?

  133. 2561

    PuddyBud “Damn Goldy. I placed a great blog entry now in filterland. ”

    While I have no doubt that the filter caught a word in your post, the “great blog entry” is highly out of character, and extremely unlikely.

  134. 2562

    Reply to 86

    Since you don’t think being abducted, tied up, tossed on a plane, flown halfway around the world to Afghanistan, thrown into a hell-hole, fed garbage and putrid drinking water, being beaten, and having your medical needs ignored isn’t “torture,” let’s do it to you and see how you like it.

    Golden Rule applies here, Mac.

    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 12/6/05 @ 9:24 pm

    Hey Wabbit we do that in our own country, New Orleans comes to mind. You forgot to send some fresh carrots and stew meat. What you consider torture is the environment Ray Charles and I grew up in when we were kids. Yes Wabbit stew was my favorite meal, especially if it was fresh off the road. Our medical needs were also ignored and the water taste like mud but the catfish like it. The only friend you could find was the old Red Neck living next door, he would give you milk and some fresh eggs. Don’t judge their world by the one you live in, theirs could be a lot better. No lawyers to clean your wallet out and no sin cops telling you can’t smoke.

  136. 2564

    128 –

    Hurry, XmasGhost! Hurry! All the accoutrements of Republican taste and style (very non-elitist) for fire-sale prices!

  137. 2565

    LeftTurn @ 128:

    I have absolutely no problem with Cunnigham having to sell off his assets. I hope all the corrupt people of the last few years get their just rewards of total bankruptcy and disgrace. I’m talking about all the corrupt guys and gals at Ernon, Worldcom, and the politicians, too.

    A little prison time for these scoundrels doesn’t sound too bad either!

  138. 2566

    130

    That’s a pretty wide net, Lib. Do we have enough space in our jails for all the politico crooks?

  139. 2567

    @116

    You could have said the same thing in 1942 about the unconstitutional rounding up and forcible relocation to internment camps of the Nisei.

    While their parents, brothers and sisters cooled their heels behind U.S. barbed war, Japanese-Americans of the 442nd Regimental Combat Team — all enlisted from the confines of the internment camps — went to Europe and distinguished themselves as the most highly decorated unit in the history of the U.S. Army for its size and length of service. Its 6,000 soldiers earned 7 Presidential Unit Citations and over 18,000 individual decorations for bravery — an average of 3 per enlistee — including 9,486 Purple Hearts, 22 Medals of Honor, 52 Distinguished Service Crosses, 588 Silver Stars and more than 4,000 Bronze Stars.

    Have we learned nothing from history? Why are we letting people run our country who are just as ignorant, bigoted, and foolish as those of 1942? Why are we allowing some of our fellow citizens judge people according to skin color or how they spell their last name?

    Shame on you, Mac. This country is capable of being better than that. Using “wartime” to justify the arrest and torture of innocent people just doesn’t cut it. Shame on you.

  142. 2570

    123

    No, it’s because he used his public office to solicit sex — by using a government computer to surf chat rooms, and offering government jobs in exchange for sexual favors.

  143. 2571

    121 (continued)

    But between you and me, I think it’s also because a lot of folks just plain don’t like gays. Men who pursue boys for sex are even less popular. And his hypocrisy didn’t help, either.

  144. 2572

    127

    “You forgot to send some fresh carrots and stew meat.”

    Speak for yourself, asshole. Mrs. Rabbit and I contributed $$$ to the American Red Cross.

  145. 2573

    Goldy: Please release my Tuskegee Experiment post regarding the FDR Administration giving $ypilli$ to black men in the 1930s.

  146. 2574

    PuddyBud “Tuskegee Experiment post regarding the FDR Administration giving $ypilli$ to black men in the 1930s.”

    That is your “great blog entry”?

    Holy crap!

  147. 2575

    Goldy: Please release my post about the religiously fanatical puritan’s burning of innocent people under the guize of “hunting witches” in the 1600’s!

  148. 2576

    StuckASS: When you read it you may comprehend something. Go back to the 115-123 posts and it will set the tone.

    Did you know about the US Govt injecting $ypilli$ into black men to look at the disease outcome without their knowledge. Did you know they did this to 399 men? Did you know these infected black men married and infected their wives and children, and the US turned a blind eye to it for the sake of science? But wait, in the 1930s blacks knew the donkocrats were the party of RACISM! Hence why wouldn’t donkocrats want to kill off black men and their families? If you did already know this, I applaud you for your knowledge of black history perpetrated by liberal progressives on their primary voting constituency. If you didn’t know this, then you still live in the small intellectual prison called liberaland!

  149. 2577

    StuckASS@147: How can one know if they are going forward if they don’t know from whence they came? I study my people’s history. Maybe you should study the injustices perpetrated by your people’s history on minorities in the name of progressive liberalism! Tuskegee Experiment, Japanese Internment, etc.

  150. 2578

    Since we’re talking about drinking, for you cluelessASS, here is the koolaid antidote for Able Danger. General Hugh Shelton also admits the program was real!!!

    http://www.sacbee.com/content/.....0638c.html – You’ll need to login though!

    “Right after I left SOCOM (Special Operations Command), I asked my successor to put together a small team, if he could, to try to use the Internet and start trying to see if there was any way that we could track down Osama bin Laden or where he was getting his money from or anything of that nature,” Shelton said.

    “To be candid, there were not many specifics in it,” Shelton said of the later briefing. “There were no names that surfaced that had not surfaced before through normal intelligence channels. There was no identification of any new players, or anything of that type.”

    Shelton, though, said that a CIA representative and an FBI representative were present at the second briefing. And he said, “I know for a fact that I was told that they had been a part of the effort” to track al-Qaida through computer data-mining.

    But cluelessASS, the FBI said they knew nothing about it. But Louis Freeh wrote something different in the Wall Street Journal link I provided weeks ago. The plot thickens cluelessASS!

  151. 2579

    clueless@137……wow…you sure are stuck on wanting other people’s things aren’t you?
    they are just things…….
    they don’t make you a better person, they don’t make you superior…..and here’s the biggest secret of all….
    they don’t make you happy.
    stop worrying so much about what others have [because you just might be surprised about what they are missing]……your envy is showing and it’s not pretty.
    people ofteen think that if they just had this THING or that THING they would be complete.
    it doesn’t work that way………but you are definitely sounding like you think it does……

  152. 2580

    Freep Koresh @ 149

    Where were the Republicans on Tuskegee or Japanese Internment? Enlighten us, Freep.

    Maybe you should study the injustices perpetrated by your people’s history on minorities in the name of progressive liberalism!

    That is pure bullshit, TripleP. Ravings of a loony.

  153. 2581

    THINGS I AM THANKFUL FOR—-
    The greatest thing that ever happened to the Republican Party is Howard “Loose Cannon” Dean being appointed Chairman of the Democratic Party. If you are a Republican, no wonder you believe in God! What a gift Dean is at a time when the Bush Administration desperately needed a boost.
    And just for a little “frosting on the cake”, we still have John Kerry shooting his mouth off calling our troops terrorists is the night.
    I’m also thankful for clear headed thinkers like Joe Lieberman.
    I’m deeply thankful for the loud-mouthed NEW AGE PROGRESSIVE ATHEIST CLOWNS who are getting all the press they deserve in their effort to take Christ out of Christmas.
    Just when you start to worry that the LEFTIST PINHEADED CLOWNS are picking up steam, they shit all over themselves in a very public way!
    PRAISE GOD!
    Praise God for the freedom of these CLOWNS to publicly blah,blah, blah until they shoot themselves repeatedly in the foot.
    A lot of you CLOWNS want to silence the opposition. Only my friends who are always RIGHT here on HA, Roger Rabbit and Goldy appreciate the importance of encouraging opposing views. Thank you Goldy….and Happy Hannukah!
    Merry Christmas to you Roger!

    I’m

  154. 2582

    Freep @ 151

    Dream on. I heard Slade Gorton say the other day that AD was just bad memory on the part of the participants. I see nothing substantial that would fulfill your twisted Clinton-hating fantasies.

    Remember the Wall old Freepy…

  156. 2584

    I’m sure the LEFTIST PINHEADS are outraged that President Bush is outfront DAILY on major issues effecting all of our lives. The problem the CLOWNS like Dean have is that they are so self-programmed to oppose and criticize Bush on everything he says, that they expose themselves for the “empty suits” that they are.
    Thank you Lord for Howard Dean, John Kerry, Teddy “the Swimmer” Kennedy, Barney Fag, Maxine Waters, Jesse Jackson and of course, TOOKIE!!!! May the be give more and more public opportunities to put one foot in their mouth and the other up their ass into their colons!

  157. 2585

    CluelessASS another teaser for you: “But under his direction, Shelton said, Gen. Peter Schoomaker, now Army chief of staff, set up a team of five to seven intelligence officers after Shelton was promoted to chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in 1997 and Schoomaker succeeded him as Special Operations commander.” Right now Schoomaker is not talking. He’s the general who told Shaffer to stand down.

    Remember the chart: http://www.peterlance.com/timeline23.htm

    I am out of town right now in a more eastern time zone. Able Danger was on CNN, MSNBC, C-SPAN, and FOX News last night – at 6, 7, 8, and 9 pm EST, respectively. Lou Dobbs at 6PM EST had two interviews about it. I know you watch Clinton Network News cluelessASS: transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0512/05/ldt.01.html

    But did you read donkocrat Richard BenVeniste’s response to Chris Matthews http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10348418/

    MATTHEWS: What about Able Danger? I only got a minute here. There was some talk that we didn‘t quite do what we had the information on.

    BEN-VENISTE: That is such a misuse of time in discussing this.

    MATTHEWS: So we did get some early warning?

    BEN-VENISTE: No. Able Danger is a distraction but ought to be investigated. We ought to have hearings on it. The American public ought to see what Able Danger was about, what it discovered, what it didn‘t discover, why it was shut down and what we ought to be looking at is what the Pentagon is doing in terms of the intrusiveness of its data mining programs: Son of Able Danger, Grandson of Able Danger, the Total Information Awareness Project.

  158. 2586

    DOBBS: Able Danger, you know the allegations, the fact that the commission ignored it, that Dietrich Snell should have paid more attention to it and provided those reports. How do you react to these charges?

    GORTON: Very simply, there’s a puff of smoke and there’s nothing behind the smoke. You know, it all started, Lou, with Congressman Weldon, who came up with a very specific statement that two weeks after 9/11, he gave a chart showing Mohammed Atta as a part of a Brooklyn plot to our deputy national security Adviser.

    Is this Gorton’s puff of smoke? upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/WTC_aerial_after_attacks.jpg I ask you cluelessASS, why do donkocrats want us to forget this?

  159. 2587

    No sorry Freepy one. I just have basic cable because I don’t need CNN and certainly don’t need Faux News in my life – unlike you.

    There you go again – fulfilling your whacked out fantasies. Old Slade isn’t playing to your script, TripleP.

  160. 2588

    Bozo @ 156

    No sorry clowny, Bush is just trying to dig his numbers out of the doldrums. His friends at Faux News like Gibson have served up a little “War on Christmas” in useless attempt to distract people from the meatgrinder in Iraq otherwise known as “stay the course”.

    I saw a documentary called “Purple Hearts” that featured five vets from Iraq – missing limbs, blind, mentally impaired from brain injuries, guts re-arranged – all very patriotic, with no regrets and would gladly do it again. Only one expressed the opinion that we shouldn’t have gone over there.

    For what? WMD? Mushroom Clouds? The evil swarthy guy with the mustache? A second front on the war on Terra?

    Here’s what a military historian who’s required reading in the U.S. Army Office Corps thinks.

  161. 2589

    CluelessASS asked:

    Where were the Republicans on Tuskegee or Japanese Internment? Enlighten us, Freep. The administration was donkocratic. Roosevelt won by big margins from 1932 through 1944. I don’t have to prove anything to an asshole as you jackASS. If it makes you uncomfortable, good! MLK, JR was right, “Beware the liberal progressive”. That is you cluelessjackASS

    Maybe you should study the injustices perpetrated by your people’s history on minorities in the name of progressive liberalism!

    That is pure bullshit, TripleP. Ravings of a loony. BULLSHIT? Did blacks put Japanese into Internment camps? Did Blacks inject $yphilli$ into other blacks? CluelessASS, you are one of the three dull knives of ASSes! Aptly named and writes that way!

    Comment by For the Clueless— 12/7/05 @ 11:11 am – More like vomit from clulessASS

    CluelessASS: Google the Congressional Breakdown from 1933-1945. Your donkocrats had at one time 333 seats of Congress with an average of 288 throughout Roosevelt’s presidential time. You guys ran everything. So STFU. 1930s and 1940s Donkocrats racist assholes!

  162. 2590

    Goodness cluelessASS you are sooooooo stupid! I am pissed at Slade Gorton for claiming something that isn’t true. Why is he in coverup mode? Now General Shelton is proving Gorton is a liar! Maybe you should leave your Kos induced small intellectual prison and watch the Clinton Network News!!! Oh, you get your informaiton from NPR?

  164. 2592

    Yes deadlyshoeASS: valium for the BULLSHIT spewed from cluelessASS! I should purchase some OUST! to clear the BULLSHIT from cluelessASS out of the air!

  165. 2593

    Calm, calm freepster. You haven’t answered my question. Did any Republicans protest Tuskegee or Internment? Maybe some did. Enlighten me. Was it the majority opinion of the R’s? I think not.

    Racism cuts across party lines OK? Republicans led this country into depression and the Dems led us out. It was the Dems that pushed and passed the Voting Rights Act and other Civil Rights laws which by the way the Bushies have ignored in the DeLay shenanigans in Texas. It doesn’t excuse Tuskegee and internment but I think it helps explains why the majority of black folks support the Dems.

    A while back you blamed the NEA and “liberal progressives” for harboring and abetting a pedophile. That’s loony tune thinking freepster.

  166. 2594

    Oh by the way, Freepy, dust off Michelle Maglalang’s Regnery book on the internment. You know the one called “In Defense of Internment”. I think you need to give that girl a stern talking to.

  167. 2595

    @160
    Officers in the Army are NOT required to read anything. They do have text materials at their schools and they do have suggested reading lists.

  168. 2596

    @160
    For their buddy, for their team, for their squad, for their platoon, for their company, for their Battalion, For the Army, For their country! For YOU!

  169. 2597

    149, 150

    Yeah, Puddy, I know about that; and I also know that post-war Democrat and Republican administrations sold out the victims of Japanese war-time “medical experiments.” The U.S. government gave these hideous torturers amnesty in exchange for getting our hands on the information they collected from their “experiments.” In the name of national security, of course. Is that disgusting? Yes.

    However, I fail to see how this constitutes an argument to vote for a political party that has violated human standards of decency in its conduct of the war against terrorists, botched its military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, presided over massive corruption at home, and done nothing to address the concerns of ordinary Americans over the stuff of daily living — jobs, incomes, health care, retirement security.

  170. 2598

    Reply to 153

    Hey Cynical, here’s to you:

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    But if you really want to do something nice for me, you’ll explain how your washing machine works. I want to know what’s inside it that changes a $100 bill from L & I taxes to Rossi slush funds. I’m still curious about that.

  171. 2599

    I also want to wish “Happy Holidays” to all our trollfucks, and don’t forget to put up your holiday trees!

  172. 2600

    Sargeant – after 200 billion+, 2000+ american lives, thousands of body parts and PTS-warped minds and thousands of dead and maimed Iraqis later – are we safer? Is the world a better place?

    If you think it was worth it then I’m sorry I respectfully disagree.

    One of the soldiers in that film thought we should carpet bomb the whole country and start over. “Better that than a shithole” were his words. You know what? I don’t condemn him in the least for that sentiment. If I were in his shoes I’d probably think the same way.

    I save my condemnation for the SOB’s who sent him over there.

  173. 2601

    Puddy re Able Danger

    We’re supposed to swallow this on the word of one wacky GOP congressman? In the total absence of proof? Just because Able Danger is Topic of the Month on all the right wing megaphone blogs doesn’t mean there’s anything to the story. No less an authority than Rumsfeld’s Pentagon has repudiated Weldon’s allegations.

  174. 2602

    @9 Roger Rodent:

    Or better yet: a hitman. Good riddance you worthless piece of unproductive human garbage.

  176. 2604

    173 (continued)

    I can’t imagine what possesses these trollfucks to think I’ll go away just because they want me to.

  177. 2605

    173 (continued)

    I get off on posts like this, because it shows I’m getting to them. I LOVE annoying trollfucks! When I annoy a trollfuck to the point where they make threats or wish for my death, I’m doing God’s work! Long live Roger Rabbit!!!

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  178. 2606

    173 (continued)

    Oh, I forgot to mention, don’t get kicked in the head by a horse the next time you visit Enumclaw. You’re stupid enough as is!

  179. 2607

    Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit! Long live Roger Rabbit!

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  180. 2608

    Nope. I’m getting to you. Thats evident by your many mouth spewings in response almost immediately. I thought maybe you would be out looking for a job; but I was shocked finding you sitting on your fat ass behind the computer all day in your bathrobe as usual. You don’t have the brain capacity to get at me little man.

  181. 2609

    @171
    Yes, I believe it was and is worth it for a lot of reasons that I won’t go into here. I was merely answering your question of “what for” and why soldiers feel that way. If you notice, nowhere in my answer is “for themselves.” In almost all cases, when soldiers who have received medals for valor are interviewed or asked why, they will tell you that they didn’t do anything special, that they were simply doing their jobs. It is sometimes hard to understand why people chose to devote their lives to public service. The pay sucks, the working conditions are hell, the people you serve are rude and thankless, etc…. The military builds comraderie, friendships and a deep sense of loyalty to each other (teamwork). Most of the veterans wounded in hospitals absolutely can’t wait to get back to it! It’s a matter of pride, honor and absolute devotion to each other in the team!

  182. 2610

    For the Clueless,
    My response is hung up somewhere in the filter, must have used a bad word. Goldy will release it sometime.

  183. 2611

    CluelessASS said: “Dems that pushed and passed the Voting Rights Act and other Civil Rights laws”

    BULLSHIT cluelessASS. Once again you prove to the world of ASSes you don’t know SHIT, and all you spew is BULLSHIT.

    Did you read the GBS conversation I had with him over the racist donkocratic senators and the VRA and CRA a few months ago? Probably over your head right cluelessASS? The southern donkocratic senators blocked it’s passage. CluelessASS – Full of SHIT!

    Al Gore Sr (Al Gore’s Jr.’s daddy), Richard Russell (Russell Office Building in DC), J William Fulbright (Bill Clinton’s mentor), Robert 3K Sheets Byrd (your mentor), 18 in all blocked it.

    It was REPUBLICAN Illinois Senator Everett Dirksen and his REPUBLICAN buddies who came to the aid of President Johnson.\

    CluelessASS: Not only the dull knife but head DIPSHIT of ASSes!

  187. 2615

    “The southern donkocratic senators blocked it’s passage.”

    You mean the Dixiecrats-soon-to-be-Republicans? like Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms? Hmmmm… is that who you mean?

    You Moron!

  188. 2616

    184 – freepster, I would hardly characterize obstructionist democrats in the Senate on Civil Rights nor the mad scientists of the Tuskegee experiment as “liberal progressives” as you have done. You are being dishonest but that’s par for the course for you.

    Now LBJ had liberal progressive leanings. As for his Vietnam decisions, I have little to no regard for those.

    Post all the links you’d like. I ignore them except for the more established MSM kind.

  189. 2617

    Here is a hate letter written to PFC Joshua Sparling. We who think right know it is not from REPUBLICANS! It is a wacky progressive war protester, probably one of those who liked Hilary Clinton!

    Josh was wounded in Iraq on November 20, and by the time he arrived at Walter Reed Medical Center he was almost immediately carted in for surgery. With a down moment he opened up a card which — on the surface — seemed like a patriotic “get well soon” kids’ note, only to open and see it said this verbatim:

    Dear, Soldier
    Have a great time into he war and have a great time dieing in the war from Solider Miguel
    P.S. DIE.

    Well ASSes, this is the type of person who supports your cut and run mentality!

  190. 2618

    So CluelessASS you ignore congressional record posts which talked about the VRA and CRA? Such a jackASS.

  191. 2619

    Well, PuddyBud, I am sure you really put on your Sherlock Holmes Detective hat to arrive at the conclusion that the sick person who sent that note was a “cut and run progressive war protester”. (and you look so cute in that hat!)

    But I did my own detective work and am now convinced the card was sent by none other than:

    Karl Rove.

    Why? You see the “Solider Miguel” who signed it is just an anagram for “I Sum Oil Ledger”

    Proof Positive!

  192. 2620

    StuckASS@192: Yeah right. Keep dreaming. Just did a Google of your anagram. If that’s what it means, it would be on cluelessASS’ favorite site:Daily Kos, with cursing and swearing. Not there. Then on his next favorite site:Media Matters. Not there either.

    Just a figment of the mind (small pea-shaped entry) of StuckASS.

  193. 2621

    PuddyBud “If that’s what it means, it would be on cluelessASS’ favorite site:Daily Kos, with cursing and swearing. Not there. Then on his next favorite site:Media Matters. Not there either.”

    Astounding bit of reasoning Old Boy! You truly are a master off not finding things on the Daily Kos and Media Matters!

    Congrats! We can only conclude from your undeniable logic, is that if it is not on Daily Kos, or Media Matters, it cannot be true!

  194. 2622

    So cluelessASS says he ignores all links except “more established MSM kind”. Well, well, well. Does this include Daily Kos and Media Matters? Doesn’t that statement betray the loyalties of cluelessASS? Earlier on ASSes, didn’t cluelessASS claimed the MSM is not liberal? Yet, cluelessASS being a liberal only trusts established MSM sites? Interesting logic cluelessASS.

  195. 2623

    I901 – The Feel Gooder’s initiative

    Another feel gooders initiative with no (ZERO)$$ for enforcement. No law enforcement agency will make any (ZERO)effort whatsoever to enforce it until one of the feel gooders pisses off one of the smokers and a brawl develops. Guaranteed!

    I am not an advocate for smoking indoors, and in fact would have voted for this, except for it’s ever so flawed 25 ft rule. Smokers didn’t mind going outdoors for a puff, but many establishments don’t have a place within 25 feet which they can call their own and set up for smoking. Not smoking inside these establishment was not enough for the feel gooders. 25 feet was the new deal! So they are gearing up for a loss of business big time. So another tax revenue loss to the feel gooders!

    It will be a major boon for the New Years celebrations at the local casino’s where you can dine, drink and smoke with almost ZERO taxes heading to the state and NO worry about pissing off a feel gooder to boot. Another Tax loss to the state by the feel gooders!

    No more ferry smokin, you can get slammed with beer on a ferry, but don’t go outside for a smoke. The 25 ft rule doesn’t work here feel gooders! 25 knots should pretty well move the smoke away, but severe punishment must be made to the smoking public by the feel gooders! So addicts will now get their last puff in, in their car full of their family and children, just before they board the ferry! Or just drive around where possible and avoid the situation all together. Another Loss of Tax Dollars to the feel gooders.

    Cigar Rooms and Cigar Stores? Well now here’s a total put out of business loss of total employment and the tax dollars that the Feel gooders have generated. Cigar Smokers will smoke at home, or on an Indian Reservation, buy online via the internet (www.cigarsinternational.com or other well known sites) or at the Indian reservation….and another massive loss of state tax dollars to the feel gooders.

    Smoke eating machines and those that sell, install and maintain them in nearly all bars and smoking establishments….End of employment and business in Washington. Another loss of State tax dollars..to the feel gooders

    So Feel gooders I’m going to light up my non taxed Internet purchased Cigar, have a non taxed home brew, and laugh like hell at the feel gooders!

    When the Cig, food and drink sales drop at all these places, and the tax dollars that were being counted on don’t show up…..

    Call on the feel gooders for relief!

    :)–$$$$$$

  196. 2624

    PuddyBud (looking snappy in his sherlock Holmes detective cap, and rocket ship pajamas) said

    didn’t cluelessASS claimed the MSM is not liberal? Yet, cluelessASS being a liberal only trusts established MSM sites?

    The MSM is NOT liberal, but unfortunately it is the only MSM we have. One just needs to filter it for the bias, and experience, and find the truth. Just like the Russians did with Pravda.

  197. 2625

    195 – I’ll be more precise for the benefit of your limited comprehension – all the links of YOUR ISSUE except for the more established MSM kind. I’ll even click on an occasional Moonie Times link for a laugh – more often than not they depress me.

    I made no judgement about any bias in the SCLM to the best of my recollection.

  199. 2627

    You see, when our good friend PuddyBud gets caught with his pants around his ankles he does what any good Neo-Con Zombie would.

    He changes the topic with a URL no is going to click but other NC Zombies.

  200. 2628

    181

    “Nope. I’m getting to you.”

    In your dreams. BTW — why should I look for a job? I’m retired. I worked for over 40 years. Paid my dues. “Retired” means you’ve done your time, don’t have to work anymore, so fuck you.

  201. 2629

    CluelessASS@173: It is now more than Cong. Weldon. Did you miss Gen Shelton admitting Gen Schoomaker knows all about Able Danger? I know you ignored it because it doesn’t fit your argument. Also since the links are from your favorite MSM sites, why are you in ignore mode, unless of course, you be ignorant?

    StuckASS@194: That’s not what I said and you know it. Living in your small intellectual prison you infer something that’s not there. But that’s okay. You are a dull knife, so the facts confuse you.

  203. 2631

    Okay StuckASS@Everywhere: I will start saying the liberal reporters of the MSM. Since the liberal reporters voted overwhelmingly for John “Our Military is Terrible” Kerry, the stories placed on the non-liberal plain paper are liberally biased! Since cluelessASS likes reading articles from liberally biased reporters, his biases shine. For the airwaves, the medium is not biased, but the every day reporters are overwhelmingly supportive of John “Our Military is Terrible” Kerry positions too!

  204. 2632

    PudyBud, you massively confused friend, reporters do not decide on the news. Editors do. And editors report to their corporate masters.

    And corporate masters voted for G.WorstPresident.Ever.Bush.

  205. 2633

    So you are saying the editors are liberally biased? Editors get lots of freedom, even from their masters. Do you remember the Jayson Blair, New York Times fiasco? Or how So the corporations controlling the editors are liberal? Are you changing your tune from last week?

  206. 2634

    PuddyBud, I hate to bother you by reading the post you are responding to. But if you had, you would have noticed these facts:

    “So you are saying the editors are liberally biased?”

    No I didn’t.

    “So the corporations controlling the editors are liberal?”

    Absolutely not. They are interested only in the corporate bottom line. As they should be.

    Any more obvious things you need explained to your very “special” mind?

  207. 2635

    Really, my friend, PuddyBud, if you are having trouble reading and understanding the posts on HA, have an adult, or legal guardian read and explain them to you.

  208. 2636

    The NEW AGE PROGRESSIVE LEFTIST PINHEADS OF AMERICA you would think these CLOWNS would have at least learned something from France and other European Countries who FAILED to recognize Germany as the threat they were. France got it’s ASS kicked and the US and England were dumb enough to save these GEEKS!
    Did they learn????
    HELL NO!!!
    Next they let the Russkies and Communists start enslaving millions in their backyard. This time Reagan spends the Russkies to death, saving the French and much of Europe with nary a shot fired.
    Now don’t you think that at LOOOOOONNNNNGG last, these CLOWNS would learn and aggressively fight terrorism????
    Hell NO!
    We have the lameass French and our very own caudre of LENIN’S USEFUL IDIOTS sympathizing with the terrorists! Are we being mean to these KILLERS?? Why don’t we tell the enemy precisely where they are being held prisoner???
    Why aren’t we serving these poor prisons bigger servings of “free-range” TOFU with extra sprouts on top???
    It’s ridiculous!!
    Thank God for Howard Dean and John Kerry!!! Those 2 boobs can screw up a wet-dream!

  209. 2637

    @196
    Well, you had better hope that you own your home if you want to smoke. The Times has an article about business complying with the law. Roger Valdez is the manager of KC’s Tobacco Prevention Program for Public Health and the article quotes Valdez as saying “that condo and apartment buildings are probably not going to be subject to the ban because they are private residences, But the health department might rethink that if it receives complaints from the public.”

    A poster on the PI site says that since it passed so overwhelmingly in every county that they should do another initiative banning tobacco even further. Such as: Raise the age to purchase tobacco to 21, Make it illegal to smoke in an enclosed environment (car, house, etc.) when anyone under the age of 21 is present.

    I901 already made your house a “public place” if you receive any assistance from the state for most types of social service. So, if your 78 year old mother wants to smoke a cigarette in your home, and the state pays you to care for her, it’s illegal, you have to haul her 25 feet out of your house.

  210. 2638

    Which again begs the question, since they keep raising taxes on smoking, and seem to be so all dependent on that revenue, there will no doubt be losses in their revenue estimates.

    The issue is really not smoking indoors, it is the 25 ft rule that has this thing blown out of site.

    Ha Ha gotta love it

  211. 2639

    212, GS
    Yes, you do. You do know that passer-bys can smoke on sidewalks walking by entrances and doors……. while banning anyone inside from going outside and smoking on the very same sidewalk. Maybe the smokers inside should go outside and walk up and down the sidewalks smoking! How do you distinguish between passerbys and patrons outside? What if the passerby stops? I was blown away when I read that King County might try to apply the law to condos and apartments. I wasn’t at all surprised by the more restrictions post. I know they are coming with their guns blazing. Ironic isn’t it that our representative democracy is supposed to protect us from the majority inflicting damage on the minorities. I would vote for reasonable standards, there isn’t anything reasonable about this initiative.

  213. 2641

    Donna
    I am starting to believe that, especially after several articles I read on them. Initiatives do sound good, majority rule sounds very fair and democratic. I saw the Snohomish Sheriff on Neil Cavuto on Fox and he said he didn’t have time to enforce this and he said if citizens expect his officers to show up after they call and report a smoker – don’t expect it, he also said he’s gotten some calls from aggravated people wanting to know why he said he doesn’t have time to be the “smoke police,” There are some real legal issues with this initiative. I’ve only voted a couple of times here in Washington State, since I moved here in 2000.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

In honor of Lori Sotelo, I plan to be there tonight, challenging the drivers licenses of all those who attempt to order alcohol. I’m hoping maybe Andrew shows up, so that I can achieve as high a disqualification rate as she did.

Comments

  1. 2642

    Ok.Commie libs……Enjoy!! Randy “Duke” must give back every penny [as well as his “guvment” hack wife] and both must go to jail [tax fraud for her…she ALSO signed the 1040’s]. Very piss poor, but I’m not a hypocrite. What the hell was he thinking? Both had great “guvment” hack pensions. Both had a shit load of money. Both are piece of shit felons. JCH on the Big Island

  2. 2643

    Mercj lays off 7000. Goldy, was that your Jewish class action trail lawyer brother-in-law that sued Merck last year? Democrat trail lawyers: liberal pieces of shit.

  3. 2644

    How many black New Orleans homeless will be drinking with you racist Democrats? [hehe] Be sure to get all the black Democrats back to New Orleans before the next election!!!

  4. 2645

    Why not take a trillion dollars in Iraqi oil as payment for their freedom for Saddam? Hell, why should the American taxpayer have to pay one dime? Just take the cost in oil. Who will stop us?

  5. 2646

    Let’s work together to make voter fraud a capital offense. Since RR tells me that Democrats don’t cheat, I’m sure you libs will support the death sentence for illegal voting!!! [hehe]

  6. 2647

    What if we’ve recently moved, and the address on our driver’s license is no longer our current residence? Will we be allowed to vote, I mean drink, anyway?

  7. 2648

    I thought all you CLOWNS took public transportation everywhere???
    Don’t need a driver’s license if you don’t have a car.
    Don’t you all think it will be interesting to hear from the folks who had their votes not counted because they admitted to illegal registration??

    Why don’t you CLOWNS dream up some more conspiracy theories???
    Like who conspired to bust Don Ron Sims King for violating a longstanding Executive Order issued by GARY LOCKE???? You know, the anti-cronyism Executive Order Sims violated when appointing losing candidate Cynthia Sullivan to a 70%-time job at $70,000/yr. Certainly Sims did nothing wrong….he never does according to Goldy.

  8. 2649

    Will Ron Sims and Cynthia Sullivan be there???
    Cynthia should be buying with her illegal salary Sims bequeathed her.

  10. 2651

    Roger Rabbit never announces his public appearances in advance, in case those parks department subcontractors are lurking in the bushes with a live trap.

  13. 2654

    The whining coming from conservatives lately is pathetic!!

    The only conservative literally crying more than the pussies on this site is “Duke” Cunningham. He was blubbering like a baby at his farewell press conference yesterday. Good luck with that pussy routine in prison, “Duke!” Geez-us!! What a little bitch!

    Man, is he going to be everyone’s little prison bitch or what?
    Hey, Duke, I hope you like the taste of c-o-c-k 24/7 because you’re going to be hustling b-l-o-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-j-o-b-s a for cigarettes and hooch. No doubt about it.

    At least Martha Stewart didn’t break down like some girlie-man when she had to go to prison. Have fun in prison, Duke, with no spine and a wussy disposition, you’re going to be one busy prison wife. Ah, well, look on the bright side, Duke, being so busy at least that will make the time go by faster ——- NOT!

  14. 2655

    My post at 13 especially applies to Ms Chickenhawk (aka Mr. Cynical the fucking crying CLOWN)

  15. 2656

    I think Ill be doing my drinking liberally at the indian casino so I can smoke a cigar and gamble as well.

  16. 2657

    The only conservative literally crying more than the pussies on this site is “Duke” Cunningham. He was blubbering like a baby at his farewell press conference yesterday. Good luck with that pussy routine in prison, “Duke!” Geez-us!! What a little bitch!

    Now, *there’s* a sad tale, to be sure. The guy was/is a bona fide war hero, and… well, now look at him. He’s getting what he deserves, but that doesn’t mean I have to enjoy it. I know how you can feel the way you do, but, this time, I’ve got no schadenfreude for the Duke-ster, just disappointment and sadness.

    Now, Abramhoff, Ney, Safavian, et al? There’s a horse of a different color…

  17. 2658

    Does JCH realize that his totally offscale racist “humor” has reduced his already low credibility to below shit? Or is he just too fucking stupid to know otherwise.
    Anybody know if his keeper sleeps in the afternoon? Maybe his meds need adjustment…like stuck up his butt to reach his head.
    Have a good day JCH, and if you want a real laugh, look at your contributions, only you would think their funny.

  18. 2659

    Goldy, glad you mentioned the “Drinking Liberally”. Now that I know about them, I’ll go to the one down here and toast your holidays. Cheers.
    thanks,

  19. 2660

    Duke Cunningham forfeited any status he enjoyed as a bona fide WAR HERO when he became enchanted with the Culture of Corruption that is conservatism.

    Once he did that, he put himself in the same disgraceful league as Abramoff, Ney, Safavin, Libby, Cheney, Bush, Rove, Frist, DeLay, Scanlon, Burns, Doolittle, Jefferson. Did I leave any Republicans off the list? Gee, I’m sorry but the list of corruption is getting so long it’s tough to remember them all.

    But I will enjoy the personal agony each one will go through. Let this be a lesson to Republicans — what goes around comes around. They started this vicious personal destruction of public people starting with President Clinton. And, for what? White Water, Travelgate, Filegate, a b-l-o-w j-o-b he didn’t want to admit in a court of law? Please!!

    Conservatives = corruption. Any doubt? Read a fucking paper.

    In the meantime. Baaaaaa Haaaaaaahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha Haaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaa.

    I hear Duke also took his wife down with for the tax evasion charge because he had her sign their tax returns. Oh, now that’s rich!! He sure fucked his wife more than one way, didn’t he? Niiiiice.

  21. 2662

    [Here is how the Democrats will win in 2008!!! Read On!!!!!!] Social Security cards run about $20, green cards about $70 and a California driver’s license between $60 and $250. The price jumps up for higher-quality documents, such as IDs with magnetic strips containing real information — often from victims of identity theft. As the demand for counterfeit IDs skyrockets, the criminal organizations that produce them are increasingly relying on sophisticated technology to expand their operations and thwart authorities.

  22. 2663

    16…….Observer………Democrats are the racists who buy blacks for “voter slaves”. 60 years of Democrat voting and blacks are still buy and sold by the Democrat pols for their votes. Keep the welfare and food stamps coming!!!!

  23. 2664

    Democrat Jewish trail lawyers need to sue all the “Fortune 500” companies and shut them down because they are evil. [hehe…….Atlas has Shrugged!]

  24. 2665

    GM and Ford must be sued because they produce cars and trucks that pollute. We need lawyers named Goldstein, Loeb, and Weiner to “class action” so these corporations lay off everyone!!! [I wonder how many of the recently laid off dumb ass union hacks at GM voted for Kerry?? Classic!!]

  25. 2666

    @13

    Lighten up, GBS. Duke Cunningham paid his dues so many times in Vietnam, I can’t diss the poor guy. He made a mistake, took a bad turn, became a Republican crook. We can’t overlook that, but in considration of his previous service, let’s let him do his prison time with dignity. The cons should save their wads for Rove, Libby, and Cheney — who’ll be arriving at the Big House shortly.

  26. 2667

    Does anybody want to dispute “Power corrupts”? Enough dirty laudry to keep China busy for a century, then they can start on their own. Really seems to pervade whatever party is in power. Can you say “LBJ”?
    Just gotta keep da bastahds in line by outing every one we find. I think Thomas Paine becomes more credible every year.

  27. 2668

    7000 laid off at Merck. Gee, I wonder if the Vioxx law suit had anything to do with the layoffs?? [hehe]

  28. 2669

    I’d agree with you Roger if he hadn’t been such a bully while in Congress. But still he is small potatoes compared the the Star Chamber you mention.

  29. 2670

    John Kerry [private jet Gulfstream, SUV’s, several homes, 110 Chris Craft] will protect us from those evil SUVs!!! [30,000 laid off at GM] Democrats: more of a danger to the US than Muslims!!

  30. 2671

    Hey, Observer…….I wonder how many of those 30,000 laid off from evil GM were black?? [Democrats: more of a danger to black families that the KKK]

  32. 2673

    @ 20

    Sorry there Roger Rabbit, but this is one time when the bunny and me are not going to see eye to eye on this issue.

    Like I said, he forfeited his bona fide WAR HERO status. And, war hero describes perfectly his service in Viet Nam. I’m not taking away what he did, but he does NOT deserve the continued honor that is bestowed upon real heroes.

    Do to so only tarnishes other war heroes with the stain of his shame. At some point, you have to separate the honorable from the truly dishonorable. It was the Dukes action and his action alone that brought this shame upon him. These are the consequences of his actions.

    Sorry, Roger Rabbit, but you just can’t commingle the shameful with the honorable. He will forever be on the outside looking in.

  34. 2675

    22, 23

    Now, now, boys. If a guy’s a war hero, he deserves to be executed with a sterile needle.

  36. 2677

    @ 26

    Roger Rabbit, don’t you get good TV reception with those rabbit ears?

    In the movies they use a firing squad for a war hereo.

    Blind fold? Cigarette? Light that with a bullet?

    Ready! Aim! Fire!

  37. 2678

    Duke-sterism – it’s a delusional self-aggrandizement that afflicts the corrupt and powerful. George Junior thinks himself royalty. Another asshole of that lineage, George Senior, got himself dubbed a knight by the good Queen of Britania for Imperial bloodshed. “Ya see, ther’s two kindsa people in the wurld – the rich an the wurkers”, said Duhbya while campaigning to eliminate Social Security. Duhbya must get his sorry impression of humanity from drunken loyalists like JCH and Mr Cynical.

  38. 2679

    @ 23 my correction

    I said that the Duke will forever be on the outside looking in. Now that I think about it, I gues he’ll be on the “inside” looking out.

    Haaaaaa haaaaa hahahahaha. Shit, I make me laugh, fuck the rest of you neo-cons.

  39. 2680

    Perhaps I have a different perspective on war heroes. I served in Vietnam with a guy who ended up getting the Medal of Honor (after getting dead), and I knew another Vietnam hero who was a rogue — he lost his battlefield commission for getting into a fist fight with a general (normally you go to Leavenworth for that, but he had too many medals to court-martial, so they only busted him in rank and retired him).

    1972 Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern was one of World War 2’s most important heroes — he led the bomber squadron that destroyed Hitler’s oil refineries, the most important (and difficult) target in Europe.

    The Democratic Party has been home to many other war heroes, as well, including Sen. Daniel Inouye of Hawaii, a World War 2 recipient of the Medal of Honor.

    To its everlasting shame, the Republican Party does not hesitate to savage veterans and war heroes when it suits their political purposes, including their own Sen. John McCain.

    Let’s not stoop to their level, guys. We’re better than they are. Yes, let’s hold Duke Cunningham accountable for the wrongs he committed, but when we do it, let’s also show him respect on account of his extraordinary military record.

  41. 2682

    Yeah GBS he is a real fucking war hero like John Kerry.
    Duke is a piece of shit for doing what he did but he’s still
    better than a liberal piece of shit like you.

  42. 2683

    Roger Rabbit

    Your passion for veterans, especially Viet Nam vets runs deep, and let me say I respect that 100%, and you too, by the way.

    But this isn’t the swiftboating of Cunningham. I’m not calling into question his military service.

    What I am saying is that a person who has such an esteemed military service such as Duke knows better. I know I’m being biased, but I expect — no demand — better personal behavior of a Naval Aviator. This isn’t some “oops, I goofed on my taxes when I forgot to carry the 9 in the 7th position to the left of the decimal point” kind of mistake.

    The guy knew he was ripping off the very people he swore to protect, me, you and every law abiding citizen of this country. The truth is my blood boils more over Duke than DeLay because I wouldn’t bat an eyelash at some corrupt bug exterminator from Texas pulling that kind of shit. But, a decorated Naval Officer, uh, no fucking way.

    When you do that, you bring shame to your service, and quite frankly, I am personally embarrassed he was in the Navy. He’s earned, and fully deserving, of public scorn.

    People like John McCain, Max Cleland, John Kerry and the other honorable men and women shredded by those corrupt conservatives didn’t deserve to have their service called into question. I’m not calling Dukes service into question, just his personal integrity. He doesn’t get a free pass, from me at least, because of past military service.

  43. 2684

    JCH You are the man. We’ll call it the oil for freedom
    program and if they don’t like it too bad. (and the camel they
    rode in on).

  44. 2685

    @ 32

    I may be a piece of shit, but I’m a million times better of a person than you. You morally bankrupt whore.

  45. 2686

    Well, Old GW could pardon Cuinningham in a last-minute deal, just like Bill Clinton did back in 2001 as he was leaving the Oval Office for the last tie. That’s how Marc Rich got his pardon, and, if memeory serves, Dan Rostenkowski was pardoned for being a tax cheat.

    What was truly ironic is that Old Dan R. used to be head of the Ways & Means Committee when the Dems ran the House some time back. It’s ironic in that he was a tax cheat and went to prison when he was the top dog in determining the tax laws!

  46. 2687

    Goldy,
    Do you and the libbies start celebrating Kwanzaa tonight? Or is festivus your only secular holiday?//

  47. 2688

    Marc Rich made a fortune breaking rules about crude oil pricing. Duke Cunningham made a solemn vow to serve as public representative but took bribes and broke that vow. The difference between these two law-breakers ought to be great enough for even a blindly partisan libertarian to admit Cunningham’s crime was far worse. Rich broke some questionable rules. Cunningham broke with the public trust. Now, if only President Dumbass were recognized as breaking the public trust, and duly excoriated, the USA might rebuild its lost integrity.

  48. 2689

    Duke Cunningham paid his dues so many times in Vietnam, I can’t diss the poor guy. He made a mistake, took a bad turn, became a Republican crook. We can’t overlook that, but in considration of his previous service, let’s let him do his prison time with dignity.

    I can’t say Duke Cunningham and dignity will collide in the same sentence any time soon, at least not one that doesn’t also include “lost,” but this is basically how I feel. I just can’t work up any emotion for him other than sadness born of disappointment.

  49. 2690

    MALENG: NO CHARGES AGAINST SOTELO

    King County Prosecutor Norm Maleng announced today he will not prosecute Lori Sotelo for perjury because she acted in “good faith” in challenging more than 1,900 King County voters of whom she had no personal knowledge.

    Is he kidding? She’s a Republican! Maleng should have asked his deputy, Dan Satterberg, to explain Civil Procedure with him — then ruled as “a matter of law” that everything the GOP does is in bad faith – no fact finding is needed!

    But Maleng is a Republican, so we can assume (as a matter of law) that his decision not to prosecute Sotelo is in bad faith! It is, therefore, an abuse of prosecutorial discretion.

    Goldy, you should run this by Lawyer X!

  50. 2691

    Wells @38

    Marc Rich made a fortune breaking rules about crude oil pricing. Duke Cunningham made a solemn vow to serve as public representative but took bribes and broke that vow.

    As I recall, you could substitute “Dan Rostenkowski” for “Duke Cunningham” and yet Marc Rich still walks for his “questionable” deals…Thank you Bill Clinton and France…

    My bottom line is always this: If you are a crook, you should pay the price. Doesn’t matter what letter (R or D) is after your name.

  51. 2692

    40

    I doubt Lori was guilty of anything. Pointing out fruad to donks is like pulling the drape on dracula when the sun is out aint it. Even if she was so what, she got the Clinton treatment.

  52. 2693

    Marks
    “If you are a crook, you should pay the price. ”
    I agree — so:
    Should we then get rid of the presidential pardon? Or at least pardons given just before an outgoing president leaves office?

  53. 2694

    It is hilarious to hear donks decry how corrupt things are when we lived through 8 years of Cliton. Clinton = most corrupt president ever.

  54. 2695

    Should we then get rid of the presidential pardon? Or at least pardons given just before an outgoing president leaves office?

    Comment by Dr. E— 11/29/05 @ 7:41 pm

    Too late now… we should have done it before Clinton got in.

  57. 2698

    Clinton = most corrupt president ever.

    RUFUS, that is an unmitigated lie, a base falsehood, a fib, brazen palter, imperious prevarication, and pure bullshit.

    Compare and contrast the Clinton administration with such paragons of virtue as the administrations of U.S. Grant, Warren Harding, “cut and run” R. Milhouse Nixon, and Saint “who me?” Ronald. And all recorrupticans. What a coincidence that they bring their private “virtues” into the public realm.

  58. 2699

    Too late now… we should have done it before Clinton got in.

    Perhaps so RUFUS. At least then this country would not have had to suffer the indignity of G. Herbert W. Bush pardoning all the Iran-Contra criminals. And don’t forget the most famous pardon of them all: Ford’s pardon of Nixon.

    Republican pardons, all. The GOP is the criminal class.

  59. 2700

    Rufus must have learned his history from great minds like righton, buttpuddy, prrissy, jch and the leader of the pack, Mr. Cyclical

  61. 2702

    In other news, an article from the American Jewish weekly Forward entitled “Costly Withdrawal Is the Price To Be Paid for a Foolish War” states the following:

    Clearly, then, the thing to do [in Iraq] is to forget about face-saving and conduct a classic withdrawal…

    As the pullout proceeds, Iraq almost certainly will sink into an all-out civil war from which it will take the country a long time to emerge — if, indeed, it can do so at all. All this is inevitable and will take place whether George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Condoleezza Rice like it or not…

    For misleading the American people, and launching the most foolish war since Emperor Augustus in 9 B.C sent his legions into Germany and lost them, Bush deserves to be impeached and, once he has been removed from office, put on trial along with the rest of the president’s men. If convicted, they’ll have plenty of time to mull over their sins.

    An analysis of the article, by the not unimportant military historian Martin van Creveld, can be found here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq.....54,00.html

  62. 2703

    RUFUS, that is an unmitigated lie, a base falsehood, a fib, brazen palter, imperious prevarication, and pure bullshit.

    Compare and contrast the Clinton administration with such paragons of virtue as the administrations of U.S. Grant, Warren Harding, “cut and run” R. Milhouse Nixon, and Saint “who me?” Ronald. And all recorrupticans.

    WTF are you talking about.

    Whitewater
    Perjury
    Monica gate
    Whitewater
    Travel Gate
    Chinese campaign contributions
    Licoln bedroom scandal
    Ron Brown
    Espy
    Frank Rich pardon
    FBI file scandal
    Jaunita Brodrick- RAPE
    Hahahahahaha– Oh I have to catch my breath
    Paula Jones
    Henery Cisneros
    Sandy Burgler
    Arkansas State Trooper scandal

    and much much more. And you donks want to give me a history lesson. You cant remember 5 years back!!

  63. 2704

    RUFUS, that is an unmitigated lie, a base falsehood, a fib, brazen palter, imperious prevarication, and pure bullshit.

    Compare and contrast the Clinton administration with such paragons of virtue as the administrations of U.S. Grant, Warren Harding, “cut and run” R. Milhouse Nixon, and Saint “who me?” Ronald. And all recorrupticans. What a coincidence that they bring their private “virtues” into the public realm

    Hehahahahahahah

    I can name at least 20 scandals of the Clinton adminstration and you want to tell me that Nixon or Reagan is worse. And you donks say I dont know history. You cant remember 5 years back let alone what happened in history. Get the F outta here.

  64. 2705

    “Duke” was the worst kind of Neo-Con (among many) he voted for the War, and then sat back ond proffited from it.

    No doubt about it, that bastard needs to HANG! I hope his blubbering ass is haunted by every dead soldier and every parent/sibling/child of every dead soldier he sent to war for his profit.

    Oh, yeah, and the rest of the Neo-Cons are gonna get it too. Oh yeah. Fucking hang every damn one of them. And then start on the Zombie-Parade that enabled them.

  65. 2706

    Doofus @ 52 “I can name at least 20 scandals of the Clinton adminstration”

    Go ahead doofus, name them. The prepare to get your sorry ass kicked for every “psuedo” scandal you come up with.

    I am no fan of CLinton, but that is because of his many policy mistakes. When it comes to “scandal” he waas the cleanest President since Jimmy Carter. It’s been nothing but scum and thugs in between.

  66. 2707

    Clinton Scandals:

    Perjury- He admited to it
    Paula Jones
    Troopergate
    Whitewater
    Vince Foster
    Monica Lewinski-
    Chinese Campaign contributions
    Juanita Brodrick- RAPE
    FBI filegate
    Travelgate
    Ron Brown investigation
    Espy
    Sandy Burgler
    Henery Cisneros
    Frank Rich Pardon
    Linclon Bedroom
    Teamsters scandal
    Rose Law Firm billing scandal- Web Hubbell
    Johny Chung- California business man campaign fund raising scandal
    Gennifer Flowers

  67. 2708

    Well since the filter keeps them from posting lets do this four at a time to

    Perjury- He admitted to it
    Paula Jones
    Troopergate
    Whitewater

  70. 2711

    Sandy Burgler
    Henery Cisneros
    Frank Rich Pardon
    Linclon Bedroom
    Teamsters scandal
    Rose Law Firm billing scandal- Web Hubbell
    Johny Chung- California business man campaign fund raising scandal
    Gennifer Flowers

  71. 2712

    @33

    I never said free pass. He took bribes and evaded income taxes, and he’s gonna do time. Even worse, he’s a Republican! Yeah, Duke is part of the Recorruptican “culture of corruption.” Sad. Very sad. Yes, we expect more of an Officer and A Gentleman than he delivered.

  72. 2713

    Rufus: They are scrambling to look all those up on the Internet. U da man RUFUS!

    RUFUS: I had a picture but lost it when my PC HD fried of Ron Brown’s head autopsy with what looked like a bullet hole and bullet fragment on the film. It disppeared really fast.

    Found it. Click the first link on this web page!

    http://www.whatreallyhappened......n.html#AVW

  73. 2714

    Damn RUFUS: I forgot this: “It is worth noting that Ron Brown was just one of four Clinton campaign fund raisers to die under questionable circumstances. The others were C. Victor Raiser II, Hershel Friday, and Ed Willey, a total of three plane crashes and one “Fosterization”. Following Brown’s demise, his personal attorney as well as a co-worker at the Department of Commerce, Barbara Wise also died under questionable circumstances. As in the case of yet another “suddenly dead” member of the Clinton administration, Vincent Foster , Ron Brown’s office was ransacked for files by Commerce staff immediately after his death.”

    Thanks for the memory jog!

  74. 2715

    RUFUS: Add:
    Security leaks by John Huang and Ira Sockowitz
    How about the Nuns and illegal campaign contributions

  75. 2716

    DonASSDon: No response to RUFUS? I thought you would have written some pithy commentary by now! Maybe you can get rugratASS to help you scan the Internet.

  77. 2718

    I’ve said this before, but it bears repeating here: I work under the basic assumption that Republicans are crooks and Democrats are dolts. That certainly doesn’t mean that Republicans can be stupid and Democrats can’t be crooks.

    Richard Nixon was a crook, but stupid enough to actually record the evidence that forced his resignation in 1974. Lyndon Johnson saddled us with Medicare, which is the most costly government boondoggle around, and he was so corrupt that he got elected to the House with the votes of dead folks in Cotula, Texas.

    From my perspective, there are corrupt and stupid folks on both sides.

  78. 2719

    After 6 + years and 60 Million + Dollars the witch hunt against Clinton produced one scandal. And it was related to a Blow Job. The rest below were investigated and were found to be “fake Scandals” dreamed up by the Neo-Con wingnuts and given life by the Corporate Media, or have nothing to do with Clinton

    So, Doofus, that is it? That’s what you got? I thought so. You got nothing but hot air.

    Real Scandal

    Perjury- He admitted to it (Blow Job)

    Fake “Scandals”

    Paula Jones
    Troopergate
    Whitewater
    Vince Foster
    Chinese Campaign contributions
    FBI filegate
    Ron Brown investigation
    Sandy Burgler
    Linclon Bedroom
    Teamsters scandal
    Johny Chung- California business man campaign fund raising scandal
    Gennifer Flowers
    Juanita Brodrick-
    Travelgate
    Espy
    Henery Cisneros
    Frank Rich Pardon
    Rose Law Firm billing scandal- Web Hubbell

  79. 2720

    RR @ 59

    I didn’t mean to imply, or that you implied, “free pass” as to not punish the “Dook-ster.” I meant, free pass in the sense his prior military service is not going to allow him avoid public scorn.

    And, besides forfeiting his military status he also needs to have his manhood revoked for crying like a little blubbering bitch that personifies a conservative.

    You know like, oh, say, Jim Baker: **sniff** **sniff** “I have sinned against you, wahhhh, wahhhh.”

    Typical conservative, caught committing felonies, then crying about it. Like I said, at least Martha Stewart took her punishment without embarrassing herself or Liberals. I hate to say she took it like a “man”, because when you compare Cunting-ham to Martha, well, let’s just say Martha raised the bar and “Dookie” kicked the bar to the ground.

    So, I guess to say Martha took it like a woman means she didn’t whine, whimper, blubber and soil herself publicly.

    Thanks, “Puke” for embarrassing real MEN everywhere.

  80. 2721

    @60

    Did you get that photo from the same helpful folks who “photoshopped” Kerry and Fonda together?

  81. 2722

    GBS, you have presented many points. Jimmy Swaggart was/is/shall always be an ass. Notice ass is in lower case not to confuse StuckASS with the ASSes here. Regarding Duke, doesn’t say in the Bible to confess your sins with a contrite heart. Now he should have NOT gone there. But how many of us have ran from sin in our lives? StuckASS talked about the beam in your own eye. For once I will agree with the quote, not the connotation it was delivered in. We all have problems. The big thing I disagree with most ASSheads here are the glee you all grab your crotches when a person falls. I can name quite a few on your side that have ethical issues.

    How many of us with the woman lying there legs spread beckoning you downward said: “Damn I have to go. I forgot to kiss mama goodnight!” Or if you are a woman looking over the meat rack said: “What would daddy say now?”

    Are you saying that being a blubbering bitch is bad where Martha was/is a bitch is good? I don’t think Martha was contrite! Do you really think so GBS?

    Regarding RW@59: The corruption culture started long ago. Let’s see, you had Jim Wright, Mel Reynolds, Dan Rostenkowski, etc. Did you know under Illinois law, Reynolds must register with Chicago police as a convicted sex offender. Do I take glee in that. No, but I will elevate it to counter the BULLSHIT Rupert Wabbet and others love to spew here!

    Let’s go further with Mel Reynolds. Jesse Jackson has hired him at PUSH. I just love that name. An ex-congressman who had sex with a subordinate won clemency from a president who had sex with a subordinate, then was hired by a clergyman who had sex with a subordinate. Now that’s funny!!! I can keep on going too.

  83. 2724

    BTW GBS: Mel Reynolds new job at PUSH? Youth Counselor!

    You see:”Reynolds received a commutation of his six-and-a-half-year federal sentence for 15 convictions of wire fraud, bank fraud & lies to the Federal Election Commission. He is more notorious; however, for concurrently serving five years for sleeping with an underage campaign volunteer.” Maybe that’s why lots of female teachers are now doing that. See the 11-30-05 USA Today paper.

  84. 2725

    @65

    “I work under the basic assumption that Republicans are crooks and Democrats are dolts.”

    So … Mr. Smarter-Than-Everyone-Else … how many people has your party elected to important offices?

  87. 2728

    66

    “I didn’t mean to imply, or that you implied, ‘free pass’ as to not punish the ‘Dook-ster.’ I meant, free pass in the sense his prior military service is not going to allow him avoid public scorn.”

    And I say, let him serve his prison time with dignity, in recognition of his prior military service; but heap scorn on him for his hypocritical, wacked-out, arrogant politics.

    “And, besides … he also needs to have his manhood revoked for crying like a little blubbering bitch that personifies a conservative. You know like, oh, say, Jim Baker: **sniff** **sniff** ‘I have sinned against you, wahhhh, wahhhh.'”

    I’d much rather see tears of remorse and contrition than the in-your-face, fuck-you arrogance we usually get from Republicans. At least this one has enough conscience to feel a sense of guilt and shame. Can’t say the same for most of ’em.

  88. 2729

    @68

    “The big thing I disagree with most ASSheads here are the glee you all grab your crotches when a person falls.”

    The wages of arrogance, Puddy. That’s the wages of arrogance.

  89. 2730

    @72

    Bad rabbit! I guess it was the nose-in-air (sniff-sniff) that tripped my Bullshit Detector this morning. Maybe I should down another jolt of Starbucks, then turn my attention to YOU, pudcakes!

  90. 2731

    Speaking of puttyferbrains, bunnies have very sensitive noses, and can smell a weasel from a mile away.

  91. 2732

    GBS: Did you know in the court case Mel Reynolds got his 16 year old lover to recruit a 15 year old Catholic girl and photograph her private parts? Amazingly, McDermott didn’t want that taped conversation which played in court at Reynold’s hearing.

  92. 2733

    I think we can all agree on one thing. With PuddyBud’s post @ 92 we have final proof that PuddyBud is completely batshit insane.

  93. 2734

    RR @ 88

    I think we’re talking about the same thing. I’m not saying he was a lying about his service, or his medals, or that he wasn’t a patriot. I’m saying FUCK him for being the lying scumbag repulithug that he is. And I’m not going to back off of that just because he was in the military.

    I have to divorce the two form each other because the shame of his corruption cannot be glossed over because of his veteran status.

  94. 2735

    Puddybud:

    What’s your point?

    He had a chance last summer to ‘confess’ his sins. He knew then he was a fucking lying sucmbag. It wasn’t until he was caught did he confess his sins and had ZERO recourse.

    While there was a slight chance he could get off, he opted not to be honest.

    But, if that’s the standard you want me to live by then I’ll be happy to do that. But it has to be equal. President Clinton gave an act of contrition on nattional television. You leave any negative comments about President Clinton out of your posts and I’ll leave my negative comments about “Duke” Cunningham out of mine.

    Deal?

  95. 2736

    If only Roger Rabitt and “DON” get to post, and mine get “filtered”, what’s the point? Sounds like an Harare, Zimbabwe and King County Election. Filter out the military votes, and make sure the black homeless vote twice!!! Democrats: social parasites!

  96. 2737

    JCH ironically posted “mine get “filtered”

    It seems you a lying. If you get filtered, I would not be now reading your post.

  97. 2738

    If “Tookie” Williams is executed next week in Kalifonia, will he still vote Democrat in the 2008 election??? Democrats: up to their necks in voter fraud!!

  98. 2739

    Rufus: They are scrambling to look all those up on the Internet. U da man RUFUS!

    Comment by Puddybud— 11/30/05 @ 1:10 am

    The funny thing Puddy is that I didn’t have to look up most of these on the web. There were a couple, but who can remember every single scandal of the Clinton Administration. You would have to be a walking encyclopedia to remember all of them.

  99. 2740

    Hmm. Interesting little circle jerk of Clinton-haters. Solution to Republican failures and corruption: just hate Bill Clinton more.

  100. 2741

    Hillary/”Tootie” 2008!! If you do not vote for this ticket, you are sexist, racist, and hate the dead!!!!

  101. 2742

    Rufus @ 99 “The funny thing Puddy is that I didn?t have to look up most of these on the web. There were a couple, but who can remember every single scandal of the Clinton Administration. You would have to be a walking encyclopedia to remember all of them. ”

    Not really, because only ONE was actually a scandal. The rest were wingnut lies.

  102. 2743

    but I am sure, Rufus, that keeping just ONE bit of fact in your head might cause your anal sphincter to explode!

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

Ooops… almost forgot. The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

But I’m on the other coast, so I won’t be there.

Comments

  2. 2746

    Inasmuch as the great Father has given us this year an abundant harvest of Indian corn, wheat, peas, beans, squashes, and garden vegetables, and has made the forests to abound with game and the sea with fish and clams, and inasmuch as he has protected us from the ravages of the savages, has spared us from pestilence and disease, has granted us freedom to worship God according to the dictates of our own conscience.

    Now I, your magistrate, do proclaim that all ye Pilgrims, with your wives and ye little ones, do gather at ye meeting house, on ye hill, between the hours of 9 and 12 in the day time, on Thursday, November 29th, of the year of our Lord one thousand six hundred and twenty-three and the third year since ye Pilgrims landed on ye Pilgrim Rock, there to listen to ye pastor and render thanksgiving to ye Almighty God for all His blessings.

    –William Bradford
    Ye Governor of Ye Colony

  3. 2747

    Is this where libruls come from? Is this how librul America haters get trained? Here’s what’s being taught in one of Puget Sound “best” school districts in high school:

    I’ll bet you think Thanksgiving was started by the Pilgrims. Wrong. It was started by Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War which was fought because Lincoln believed there was no more profit in slavery.

    I’ll bet you thought the first Thanksgiving was in 1620. Nope, it was started in 1863 during the Civil War.

    I’ll bet you thought Thanksgiving was about giving thanks to God because the pilgrims built some houses and had food to eat and a fire in the fireplace.
    I’ll bet you thought they were hoping to cut down on the 50% death rate from the first winter. Nope, it’s about “ethnocentricism” and demeaning the indians as part of a larger program of “waging biological warfare”.

    Here are some keywords that are taught about Thanksgiving: “Ethnocentricism”,
    “marginalize”, and “ideology”. Essay question: “How does thanksgiving promote “ethnocentricism”.” These questions are on a worksheet that students have to answer per the article and turn in. Students either drink the kool aid or gets a
    zero.

    The teacher in this class went to Seattle University. SU is arguably one of the most kooky goofball liberal universities around. I know SU and its politics intimately; 3 of my 4 degrees are from SU. I’m educated enough, and informed
    enough and mature enough to throw out the liberal bullshit that goes around on campus. But obviously Miss X drank the kool aid in order to get her teaching cert, and now here she is puking it back at innocent kids.

    Don’t believe me? Read the source material here:
    http://www.uvm.edu/~jloewen/li.....erica.html

    GD it. I’m pissed…

  4. 2748

    We’ve got ANOTHER holiday to worry about. It seems Thanksgiving Day is upon us.

    – Charlie Brown

  5. 2749

    If black Democrats show up, do they have to pay? Shouldn’t you white liberals realize that they are incapable and cannot earn the funds to pay their tab because of racism? They vote Democrat……….You pay the bill, right? Aren’t they your voter slaves? [hehe]

  7. 2751

    Tell us all about Betsy Ross, MTRVI. We are all sitting on the floor in a circle around you ready to hear your story!

  8. 2752

    How can you socialist libs drink when homeless New Orleans blacks have nothing? Shouldn’t you be raising taxes on everyone else? How about the Kennedys taking in a few thousand blacks in their MASS Cape Cod compound? How many blacks did John Kerry take into his Beacon Hill address? [hehe]

  9. 2753

    How many of the 30,000 laid off GM union workers voter for John “No SUVs” Kerry? No drilling, higher gasoline taxes, Save the Planet!, Global Warming!!! [What dumb shits!! Fucked themselves out of a job. You can be sure NO union Democrat hack lost his or her job!!]

  10. 2754

    Higher tobacco and alcohol taxes!! Higher gas taxes!! Higher property taxes!! [What if the Republicans just left the state? Let the Democrat hacks tax each other!! That would be like watching ticks suck each other!]

  11. 2755

    Roger Rabbit: 10,000 posts. JCH: Trying to get one through the filter. [“……..It’s WHO counts the votes!” Joe Stalin]

  13. 2757

    Awww. Are the poor widdle conservatives having a bad week? Is their widdle feelings hurt? Awww. Poor frickin morons. Poor frickin morons don’t like it when their great leaders shit their panties. Awwwwwwww.

  14. 2758

    rujaxtheCLOWN sez:
    “We’ll miss ya Goldy.
    Happy Thanksgiving!
    Comment by rujax206— 11/22/05 @ 6:21 pm”
    Is that because Goldy is your Turkey??

  15. 2759

    Why does a DL thread bring out all the nutty fruit baskets?

    Well maybe it’s because we’ve been winnin’ are we’re gonna keep on winnin’.

    See ya in 30 fellas!

  16. 2760

    “Clueless” Glitter is in a heap of trouble.

    The faded glam rocker, best known for the ubiquitous sports anthem “Rock and Roll Part II,” was arrested Saturday morning by Vietnamese immigration authorities on charges of child molestation as he tried to board a flight from Ho Chi Minh City to Bangkok, according to published reports.

  17. 2761

    From the Daou report:

    “No matter how heartfelt, the arguments in favor of the Iraq war are almost always specious and riddled with fallacious reasoning. On a matter so grave, that should be unacceptable to the American people.”

    THE STRAW MEN OF IRAQ: Ten Pro-War Fallacies

    1. VIRTUALLY EVERYONE WHO SAW THE INTELLIGENCE BELIEVED SADDAM HAD WMD, THEREFORE BUSH IS BEING UNFAIRLY SINGLED OUT FOR CRITICISM
    2. AFTER 9/11, WE CAN’T WAIT FOR THE THREAT TO MATERIALIZE BEFORE TAKING ACTION
    3. DEMOCRATS “VOTED FOR” AND THUS “SUPPORTED” THE WAR
    4. TALK OF WITHDRAWAL “SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE” AND “EMBOLDENS THE ENEMY”
    5. A WITHDRAWAL FROM IRAQ WOULD HAVE CATASTROPHIC CONSEQUENCES
    6. WITHDRAWING FROM IRAQ IS TANTAMOUNT TO “CUTTING & RUNNING”
    7. WE’RE FIGHTING THEM ‘THERE’ SO WE DON’T HAVE TO FIGHT THEM HERE
    8. DEMOCRATS DON’T HAVE A PLAN FOR IRAQ, THEY’RE JUST ATTACKING BUSH TO SCORE POLITICAL POINTS
    9. HISTORY WILL VINDICATE BUSH
    10. ISN’T IT A GOOD THING THAT SADDAM IS GONE?

    Recognize any of these?

  19. 2763

    “Bwaaaaawk-Rujax the Clown”
    “Bwaaaaawk-Rujax the Clown”
    “Bwaaaaawk-Rujax the Clown”
    “Bwaaaaawk-Bwaaaaawk”

  21. 2765

    No, this is not evidence of a “liberal utopia” (whatever that might mean) failing. Instead, it seems to show that people are frustrated with some aspects of their system, which is not unusual in countries providing universal health care, although they remain conflicted about solutions including privatization:

    “A majority of Canadians believe it would create a two-tier system (68%), lead to a shortage of physicians in the public system (61%) and increase costs (58%), but more Canadians also believe it would result in shorter wait times (68%) and improve the quality of their treatment (60%).”

    here’s the link: http://www.canada.com/national.....6a93d45ea4

  22. 2766

    I have alway said that we can always learn a lot from our neighbors up north. We can learn how not to do things. They do hockey and ginger ale right though, but not much else.

  23. 2767

    Rufus – You are correct. No person and no country are ever completely useless no matter how bad they are. Countries like Canada, and people like Ted Kennedy can always be used as a bad example.

  24. 2768

    “Only thing worse than a Frenchman is a Frenchman who lives in Canada.”
    > Ted Nugent.

    Ted always nails it!!

  26. 2770

    Just watch “Black Hawk Down”. An alful lot of Democrat black voters died. Can they still vote for Kerry and Hillary even if they are died and live in the Horn of Africa? If we don’t count their vote we can always scream “racism”!!!!

  28. 2772

    If we close the Mexican border, how will the Democrats get new voters? I figure the Libs need to bring in another 10 to 15 million illegals to win the next election.

  29. 2773

    The parasites soon will outnumber the private sector taxpayers. At that point the system breaks down as the Democrats vote themselves free breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Atlas has Shrugged.

  30. 2774

    “A majority of Canadians believe it would create a two-tier system (68%), lead to a shortage of physicians in the public system (61%) and increase costs (58%), but more Canadians also believe it would result in shorter wait times (68%) and improve the quality of their treatment (60%).”

    here’s the link:
    Comment by Dr. E— 11/22/05 @ 9:06 pm
    Dr. E they have the same system in France, Germany, England, Belguim, and other countries. The problem is the customers are in the unemployment lines looking for a job, because the corporation out source their jobs due to high Taxs. Now the customers have lots of time to wait for their care. Idle countrymen can provoke trouble, like cars burning in the streets. Right now the Germans and French are running scared that the indigenous folks will revolt and remove their heads. Pink countries are having some real challenging times on how to fix out of control society. Dr E they could use your help, why not plan a trip to France and provide them some great advice.

  31. 2775

    Seoul, South Korea – A North Korean dissident yesterday spoke of the horror of life as a political prisoner in the communist dictatorship. Kim Chol-soo, who survived the prison camp at Yodok, about 70 miles north-west of Pyongyang, said he saw a former defector beaten to death for contacting Christian representatives in China and also witnessed the deaths of many inmates due to hard labour and lack of food. [This is a lie, as North Korea is the perfect Hillary Village. Lots of government health care, housing, and government controlled food distribution.] [hehe]

  32. 2776

    13……..Awww. Are the poor widdle conservatives having a bad week? Is their widdle feelings hurt? Awww. Poor frickin morons. Poor frickin morons don’t like it when their great leaders shit their panties. Awwwwwwww.

    Comment by Wells —
    [Er, Wells…………Are you an adult?]

  33. 2777

    The trolls are really setting themselves on fire tonight. Ah, Mark the Redneck is back – so, 912 was gonna pass by how much again? We’re not going to let you forget about that anytime soon.

    And Mr. Irrelevant Pinhead – still irrelevant and still useless.

    And JCH – so insane, the mental asylum couldn’t take such a hideous creature.

    Happy Thanksgiving indeed.

  34. 2778

    “I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me.”
    > General George S. Patton.

    “Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion.”
    > Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

    LEFTIST PINHEADS love France.
    If they were running this Country, they’d run it like France only worse! These CLOWNS are gutless. They feel they are so “above” everyone else that there mere words can change the world for the better. That’s why I call them CLOWNS!

  35. 2779

    “We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it.”
    > Marge Simpson

    “As far as I’m concerned, war always means failure”
    > Jacques Chirac, President of France
    “As far as France is concerned, you’re right.”
    > Rush Limbaugh,

    The French are only good for being the BUTT-end of jokes!

  36. 2780

    “You know, the French remind me a little bit of an aging actress of the 1940s who was still trying to dine out on her looks but doesn’t have the face for it.”
    > John McCain, U.S. Senator from Arizona.

  37. 2781

    War without France would be like .. uh .. World War II.
    “The favorite bumper sticker in Washington D.C. right now is one that says ‘First Iraq, then France.'”
    > Tom Brokaw.

  38. 2782

    “What do you expect from a culture and a nation that exerted more of its national will fighting against Disney World and Big Macs than the Nazis?”
    > Dennis Miller.

    “It is important to remember that the French have always been there when they needed us.”
    > Alan Kent

    “They’ve taken their own precautions against al-Qa’ida. To prepare for an attack, each Frenchman is urged to keep duct tape, a white flag, and a three-day supply of mistresses in the house.”
    > Argus Hamilton

  39. 2783

    “Somebody was telling me about the French Army rifle that was being advertised on eBay the other day — the description was, ‘Never shot. Dropped once.'”
    > Rep. Roy Blunt(MO)

    “The French will only agree to go to war when we’ve proven we’ve found truffles in Iraq.”
    > Dennis Miller

    Raise your right hand if you like the French … raise both hands if you are French.

  40. 2784

    Comon Mr C. The French have produced some of the most tastiest tarts ever. You can take that to the bank. Wait a minute we are talking about France here. You can take that to the unemployment line.

  41. 2785

    The AP and UPI reported that the French Government announced after the London bombings that it has raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher levels in France are
    Surrender and Collaborate. The rise in the alert level was precipitated by a recent fire which destroyed France’s white flag factory, effectively disabling their military.

    French Ban Fireworks at Euro Disney
    > (AP), Paris, March 5, 2003
    The French Government announced today that it is imposing a ban on the use of fireworks at Euro Disney. The decision comes the day after a nightly fireworks display at the park, located just 30 miles outside of Paris, caused the soldiers at a nearby French Army garrison to surrender to a group of Czech tourists.
    > Steve Fredrickson

  42. 2786

    Just think if that pilgrim had shot a cat you would all be eating pussy on Thanksgiving.Just food for thought.

  43. 2787

    “Dr E they could use your help, why not plan a trip to France and provide them some great advice.”

    Actually, the French have a health care system that is more cost-efficient than ours while still delivering a similar level of care, so I don’t think they need our help.

  44. 2788

    “No person and no country are ever completely useless no matter how bad they are.”

    You’re right Mark. North Korea and Dick Cheney are both bad. Really bad. Really, really bad. And they make excellent bad, bad, and evil examples.

  46. 2790

    Dr. E, I suppose that since now the right wing is going down the toilet faster than PuddyBud’s wife’s last dinner, they are deperate to find a new “enemy”.

    And also the French are very sexually open, and the deep seated homosexual urges that all the right wingers have, and (try to) keep bottled up, just makes for a dangerous cocktail of cognitive dissonance.

  47. 2791

    MTR @3

    “I know SU and its politics intimately; 3 of my 4 degrees are from SU.”

    Gee Mark, when did you figure out you don’t like SU? Did you have an epiphany while working on your 5th degree?

    P.S., it sounds like you were a professional student in addition to being a gambling debt welsher. Did you sit out Vietnam at SU? How many deferments did you get? Can you beat Cheney’s 5 deferments?

  50. 2794

    @34

    “Ah, Mark the Redneck is back”

    Does this mean Goldy didn’t whack him for welshing on the bet?

    When MTR disappeared for a few days, I assumed his feet were in a tub of concrete, and he had 6,000 feet of Pacific Ocean over his head.

  51. 2795

    Rog–
    It’s probably not too wise to provoke MTR too much.
    He has a killer Rabbit Stew recipe…and all the fixins’ except for the meat!

  52. 2796

    Hey Mark the Redneck,

    Did you send in $100 contribution to Maria Cantwell in fulfillment of your bet with Goldy?

    If not, don’t come back until you do!

  53. 2797

    Ah Neo-Cons… Can’t live with ’em, can’t live without… Er. Scratch that.

    Ah, Neo-Cons. Can’t live with ’em.

  54. 2798

    Cynical,

    You jest about the French and their mistresses, but they are serious about them. I spent on time on a airfield in Tirana, Albania and the French Army was there doing humanitarian assistance. The French Army has great field rations, very tasty, much better than MRE’s. The French men looked great too! Especially considering the fact that we were in BDU’s, flak jackets, LBE, Kevlars, rifles, and they were lazing around in cut-offs and sleeveless T-shirts, and did I forget to mention that they have prostitutes in their camp with them??????? Oh yes, they did! They didn’t leave home without them!

  55. 2799

    Stuckonstupiddon@47: The wife said ignore the stupid one. So we are. IQ and commonsense rating double yours.

    Sgmmac, were the prostitutes French or Albanian? If they were Albanian, was payment in Francs? I bet not. Typical cheap bastards French Men.

    DR E., My older sister and family lived in Paris for 4.5 years. They moved to England for the next four. They said the British medicinal system outshined the French hands down. Since she lived through it, what’s your experience from afar?

  56. 2800

    Ah, Puddly one. I knew the post about rightwing repressed homosexuality would really push your button! Remember to lock that closet door!

  58. 2802

    dj – I tried. Her website won’t take my address. You’re “tech savvy” former executive is too fucking stoopid to make a website that can work.

    So fuck off.

  59. 2803

    I just don’t know what to tell our friends over in ”Baghdad-on-the Seine”

    Maybe, just maybe…. if you wouldn’t treat all non-Frogs like shit, they wouldn’t burn your country down.
    However, the other side may be just a wee bit to touchy.

    F: Headscarf? Muslim girls should not wear them in school!

    A: But sir Frog, that is part of our religion!

    F: This is France and French do not wear head scarf. C’est Tout!

    A: Okay, I am going to burn 1000 cars over the next 2 weeks.

    Jeez, who do ya root for here?

  60. 2804

    bet welsher @ 59

    Her website won’t take my address.

    And the dog ate my homework. What? Did you put in a PO Box!?!

  61. 2805

    Reply to 52

    Dinner is served anytime any of you — or a group of you — is man enough to come and get the rabbit.

  62. 2806

    Reply to 55

    Hey Sgt. Mac, have you heard the joke about the French Foreign Legion and the camel?

  63. 2807

    Reply to 59

    Excuses are like assholes, Mark — everybody’s got one. Are you telling us you don’t know how to lick a stamp?

  64. 2808

    Mark the Redneck @ 59

    I tried. Her website won’t take my address. You’re “tech savvy” former executive is too fucking stoopid to make a website that can work.”

    Bullshit. The web site works just fine. You are either too stupid to follow directions, or are willfully not filling it out correctly.

    In either case, you have not discharged you betting debt. There was no clause in your bet giving you an out for having “problems” with a web site. Nothing is stopping you from mailing in a contribution (see the address at the top of her web site).

    Don’t be an asshole about it. Just be a man and pay up!

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

Tonight I’m doing one of those dad-daughter things, so I will likely not be able to attend. But I understand that Port Authority candidate Rich Berkowitz will be there… so who needs me?

Comments

  3. 2814

    by Goldy, 11/01/2005, 2:07 PM

    “Port Authority candidate Rich Berkowitz”

    You mean “Port of Seattle”, right? The Port Authority is in NY/NJ, and that would be a long way to come just to have a few beers.

    “Tonight I’m doing one of those dad-daughter things, so I will likely not be able to attend.”

    I’m glad you and Rob McKenna can agree that kids and alcohol don’t mix!

    http://www.centurycouncil.org/.....0-25a.html

  5. 2816

    I wonder if Al Runte will come in, and if it’ll be awkward… I thought he was going to cry when Sims showed, with no love left over for the Runtinator.

    Al Runter: “I’m running for mayor. No, really, I’m running for mayor.”

  6. 2817

    Goldy, what happened to your vigil; standing by 520 and viaduct to protest their aging?

  7. 2818

    The trolls have a standing invitation to observe, and even participate in, the DL festivities. They’re all such chickenhawks that none of them have ever accepted the offer.

  8. 2819

    They’re all such chickenhawks that none of them have ever accepted the offer. -Comment by N in Seattle— 11/1/05 @ 2:50 pm

    I prefer to socialize with thinking adults, not fruitcake fringies and bloggers denounced by his candidate and called a liar by his candidates opponent… besides, I don’t come to Seattle to spend my money to support the fruitcake fringies and the illegitimate queen they placed on her uncomfortable thrown.

  10. 2821

    Ass @ 8

    Damn you’re bitter.
    Is there ANYONE out there that disagrees with you that you don’t want to have exterminated ?
    (You sound like you have, what was that, oh yeah, the “Final Solution” mentality)

  11. 2822

    PROUDASShole,

    a) No one’s asking for your $upport. We pay our own way, and amply compensate the server/proprietor.

    b) To my knowledge, Irons has not called Goldy a liar. He has not denied a single one of the allegations (mostly multi-sourced, by the way) uncovered by Goldy’s investigative reporting.

    c) How would you know whether we’re “fruitcake fringies”? You’re just afraid to face actual opinions without having the day’s GOP talking points in front of you.

    d) I’ll refrain from snickering at your spelling error. I too want to see preview capability here.

  12. 2823

    @8

    If Irons called Goldy a liar, what Goldy said must be true, because nothing Irons says is true. Actually, that pretty much applies across the board to all Republicans — GOPers are compulsive liars, also kleptomaniacs.

  13. 2824

    Roger Rabbit hardly ever attends DL, and never announces his appearances in advance due to traffic problems caused by the crush of admiring fans, papparazzi, process servers, and GOP assassins.

  14. 2825

    What are all the LEFTIST PINHEADED CLOWNS going to do without their CLOWN leader???
    Watch out….I hear when you get a bunch of drunk CLOWNS together, it’s no laughing matter!

  15. 2826

    N-

    Goldy is often on here asking for someone to buy his beers.

    Goldy has a “dysfunctional relationship with the truth.”

    While I am not familiar with your posts, calling Roger Rabbit, Headless Lucy, GBS, or DJ (who together comprise around 75% of posters here) anything other than a “fruitcake fringie” would do a terrible disservice to the truth. It is fact rather more kind than many names I could think of off-hand.

  17. 2828

    For your info, Dunno Nuthin, I’m a pretty important rabbit! Stefan thinks he’s suing me!! (He’s actually suing Dean Logan,* but Stefan thinks Roger Rabbit is Dean Logan blogging on a King County computer.**)

    * With other people’s money — needless to say, he wouldn’t pay for this crackpot lawsuit with his OWN money — after all, the poor shmuck is working a $9-an-hour temp job to make his mortgage payment.

    ** This is bullshit, but it’s useless to argue with Stefan, who is impervious to all known facts.

  19. 2830

    I just checked to see what’s going on at Sucky Politics, and saw that some yahoo named Jim Miller posted that Mao was a murderous tyrant.

    Du-uh!!!

    Geez, Stefan, where do you get these intellectual bright lights who write for your sucky little blog?

  20. 2831

    No doubt about it, Mao was a real shit. However, in his diatribe against Mao, Mr. Miller doesn’t even mention Adolf Hitler, which makes me wonder whether Miller is a Hitler admirer.

    I’m not saying he is, I’m just curious whether Miller admires Hitler, that’s all. Merely wondering.

  21. 2832

    So, Stefan, how come your contributor didn’t say anything about Hitler? Are you a Hitler admirer too? I’m not saying you are, I’m just asking, that’s all.

  23. 2834

    Gimme 5 minutes in a room with those two guys — Mao and Adolf — and they’d have 20 belly buttons apiece. Their guts would be all over the floor, walls, and ceiling. God what a mess!!!

  24. 2835

    They’d pick up the bunny by the ears — one ear apiece — and that’d be all she wrote, folks.

  25. 2836

    Never, ever, pick up Roger Rabbit by the ears!!! Unless you want a new belly button.

  26. 2837

    DAY 2 — STEFAN VIGIL

    Hey Stefan — if you win your lawsuit against Dean Logan and the judge exercises his authority under RCW 42.17.340(4) to award you $5 a day for your labors, are you gonna SHARE the judgment money with the generous donors who paid for the lawsuit?

    I asked you this yesterday, and you didn’t respond, so this is Day 2 of my vigil.

  29. 2840

    Hey wingnuts,

    I heard a great name for the 39 percent Dubya dead-enders on talk radio from some caller from Texas:

    THE BUSH-DAVIDIANS.

    hehehehehe. The BD’s would perish first in a burning building than admit that the Chimpinator has been an utter disaster for this country.

    The HA.org branch of the Bush-Davidians includes the following:

    ASS, ID(IOT)GAF, DOOFUS, G(aseous)S(h*thead), Cynical/Irrelevant, Michael, YeaWrong, WrongOne, Janet S, XmasGoose and last but not least:

    PuddyKoresh!

    Have I left anyone out?

  33. 2844

    @26

    Do you like it? I rant. I rave. I call names. I post ad hominem attacks. I do everything Republicans do. Why should Republicans have a monopoly on bad behavior?

    If you DON’T like it — go fuck yourself, and fuck the armadillo you rode in on, too.

  34. 2845

    Roger,

    I’m surprised at you. You haven’t read local wingnut Jim Miller’s blog or heard of his Distributed Vote Fraud theory, the one that costs about a million dollars to prove?

    Some wingnut has to be passing the collection plate for that one.

  35. 2846

    well well well…..it sucks to be french[unless you are the ruling wealthy class] greenpeace damaged a reef, and last but not least the judge was removed because of his political bias in the delay case.
    gosh…just how many liberal “security blankets” can be trashed in one day, hmmmmm?

  37. 2848

    Mr. Cynical @ 14

    “What are all the LEFTIST PINHEADED CLOWNS going to do without their CLOWN leader???
    Watch out….I hear when you get a bunch of drunk CLOWNS together, it’s no laughing matter!”

    Aren’t you going to be there tonight Mr. C.? Geez…I been waiting a long time to buy you a beer.

    Besides, we’re saving some big floppy shoes and a round rubber nose for you!

  38. 2849

    For the Clueless-28 ‘I heard a great name for the 39 percent Dubya..’

    39% with all the wars, Plamegate, Alito, etc. It must be easier to get higher poll numbers if all you had to do was lead a small, lowly state like Washington.

    http://www.strategicvision.biz.....l_1027.htm
    1. Do you approve or disapprove of Governor Christine Gregoire’s job performance?
    Approve 36%
    Disapprove 55%
    Undecided 9%

    And how about Goldy’s Rossie vigil?

    6. If the Election for Governor in 2008 was between the Democrat Christine Gregoire and the Republican, Dino Rossi, whom would you vote for?
    Christine Gregoire 33%
    Dino Rossi 55%
    Undecided 12%

    And how about those dem election reforms?

    9. Are you confident that Washington has overcome the problems that hindered the 2004 Election and that there will be no problems with the 2006 Election?
    Yes 17%
    No 70%
    Undecided 13%

    Right direction?

    11. Do you think Washington is headed in the right direction or the wrong direction?
    Right 34%
    Wrong 49%
    Undecided 17%

    Now drink liberally to that!

  39. 2850

    @33

    Well, you know … these local wingnuts … watching them go by is like counting boxcars on a train. They put you to sleep, know what I mean?

  41. 2852

    ChristmasGhost:

    Could you clarify something in your answer for me, I don’t want to assume what you meant.

    @ 41 on the Senate goes nuke thread you wrote:
    “first off…”intellectual challenge”? you mean the one where you told me that i wasn’t qualified to play in your game….that one?
    anyhoo….i have no idea why ken mehlman apolgized to the NAACP. i didn’t realize he had done something awful to them.i personally think the NAACP should apologize to everyone else for their total lack of leadership and morals.it’s about as valid an organization as the ACLU or the UN.
    look….apologizing for something that our ancestors did[or did not do…mine didn’t] a really long time ago is stupid window dressing.”

    When you say “apologizing for something that our ancestors did,” specifically, what do you mean by ancestors did?

    Thanks,
    GBS

  42. 2853

    on her uncomfortable thrown

    Figure 1: the meticulous usage of a true “private school product”.

  43. 2854

    Comment on 39

    Yes, I see why an anti-free speech, racist, warmonger would dislike the ACLU, NAACP, and UN.

  44. 2855

    It appears the CLOWN population is growing at an accelerating rate. Soon we will be overrun by CLOWNS.
    CLOWNS to the LEFT of me
    JOKERS to the Far-Right
    Here I am….stuck in the middle with you.
    And I’m wonderin’ what it is I can do.

  45. 2856

    And another thing…..
    The pathetic whining of LEFTIST PINHEADS are really….
    THE TEARS OF A CLOWN….when there’s no one around (who cares)!
    SAY NO TO WHINING CLOWNS!

  47. 2858

    Rupert did you say your mutha was run over while giving a hummer? GBS would be proud!

    Clueless, can’t you even come up with original thought? ;) I thought this was from some time ago. You go to the Internet and STEAL another’s thought? http://www.swans.com/library/art10/procks26.html Typical, truly typical. And the LEFTIST PINHEADS like GBS miss the information. Wow Karma, a new low for you. Another wall of shamer along with windbag, stuckonstupiddon, JustDumbBozo and rugrat602!

    Dr E. Hats off for what? Scary Reed looking pathetic as ever. Since he’s from Navada andother big gamble. Goodness don’t you guys miss Tom Satchel Daschle?

  50. 2861

    anything other than a “fruitcake fringie” would do a terrible disservice to the truth. It is fact rather more kind than many names I could think of off-hand. -Comment by Danno— 11/1/05 @ 3:49 pm

    What’s truly amazing (frightening!) is that these nutburgers and fruitcake fringies truly believe they represent the mainstream Democrat party, mainstream liberals and mainstream America.

    Delusions are ugly to witness, but good golly Miss Molly tehy sure are entertaining little buggers!

  51. 2862

    Josef—
    Great Ad!
    David Irons could have said about Sims “We can’t do any worse!!!”
    By the way, have I reminded you that:
    If Don Ron Sims King WINS—CLOWN Logan keeps his job.
    If Sims loses=====CLOWN Logan is FIRED!!!!
    If David Irons wins===CLOWN Logan is FIRED!!!!

    Just say NO to CLOWNS!
    Now if only David CLOWNstein will wake up from his denial stupor….

  54. 2865

    @48

    What’s even more incredible is that wingwacks like you think you represent, and speak for, America.

  55. 2866

    According to the pleadings in Stefan’s lawsuit against Roger Rabbit,* a King County employee had to be assigned to sit and watch Stefan for 6 weeks while Stefan thumbed through 600,000 documents. That cost the taxpayers 1000’s of $$$. And this guy complains about Sims wasting tax money???

    * Poor Stefan thinks Roger Rabbit is Dean Logan blogging on a King County computer. That’s bullshit, but it’s useless to argue with him, as Stefan is impervious to all known facts.

  56. 2867

    Pretty expensive hobby — for the taxpayers, that is. Like all Republicans, Stefan loves to shift the costs of his private gratification to other people, if he possibly can. Stefan’s lawsuit against Roger Rabbit is a case in point:

    1. Stefan isn’t paying for the lawsuit — the fools who donated to Stefan’s “legal fund” are. If Stefan persuades a judge to award him monetary penalties and attorney fees against the county, I wonder how much of that $$$ he plans to share with the people who paid for the lawsuit?

    2. Stefan isn’t paying for his public records hobby — King County taxpayers are. It costs money to have an employee sit and watch for 6 weeks while Stefan thumbs through 600,000 ballots and other documents (to make sure he doesn’t steal or vandalize any of them), and you can be damned sure Stefan hasn’t volunteered to reimburse the county for that expense.

    But … what do you expect from a Republican?

    F R E E L O A D E R

  57. 2868

    KING 5 POLL: ANTI-ROADS INITIATIVE HEADED FOR DEFEAT

    According to the latest King 5 TV poll, if the election were held today, I-912 would garner only 44% “yes” votes while 50% of voters would vote “no.”

    Half our state’s citizenry know a turkey when they see one — and I-912 gobbles. Boy does it ever.

    What can we say of the 44% who would sacrifice our safety and economy just to spite Governor Gregoire? (Oh, man, does that sound goooood as it rolls off my little pink bunny tongue … Govvvvvernorrrrr Gregoirrrrre … hehehe.)

    It’s probably better to say nothing.

    http://www.king5.com/localnews.....35294.html

  58. 2869

    Has anyone noticed the Oldest Racist in the US Senate has been uncharacteristically and inexplicably (and let’s not forget, thankfully) silent lately?

    I wonder, did he atually have the audacity to file past and pay his respects to Rosa Parks or did he stay home fondly remembering his glory days … you know, back when she was busy making history on a bus and he was busy lynching her brethren?

  59. 2870

    “A security guard at a Madison, WI mall kicked out a group of clowns after shoppers complained that they were being harassed… Clowns aren’t pleasant to have around. Dysfuctional adults in ill-fitting clothes and red ruber noses aren’t going to find themselves welcome in most places.”
    Seattle Progressives==LEFTIST PINHEADS==CLOWNS!
    There are plenty of reasons to hate you CLOWNS!

  60. 2871

    “A star clown for one of the nation’s largest traveling circuses is under arrest after being caught on videotape having sex with a teenage boy, police said today. The clown was arrested early Saturday in a home here after allegedly sodomizing a 16-year-old boy. Investigators said the incident was captured on a surveillance camera installed by the boy’s father.”
    Yet another LEFTIST PINHEADED CLOWN caught in the act!
    Seattle Progressives==LEFTIST PINHEADS==CLOWNS
    Clowns condone disgusting behavior….and even participate.
    I hate CLOWNS!

  61. 2872

    King County taxpayers are. It costs money to have an employee sit and watch for 6 weeks while Stefan thumbs through 600,000 ballots and other documents (to make sure he doesn’t steal or vandalize any of them),

    Why would anybody worry about someone stealing or vandalizing the ballots?! The KCRE elections workers already did that on the third recount.

  62. 2873

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059798/
    They already made a Movie that describes the KingCo bureaucracy called “A THOUSAND CLOWNS”
    Jason Robards was the star. It was made in 1965
    Apparently there is talk of a re-make of this fine movie….
    It all depends upon whether David CLOWNstein agrees to play the lead role!

  63. 2874

    @15 (continued)

    Anytime a wingnut uses the word “truth” – watch out!!!

    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 11/1/05 @ 4:01 pm

    Wabbit from your point of view nobody is telling the truth. Make your case, or you are making the wingnut case.

  64. 2875

    ProudAss: I was wondering that too. Where da fuck is Mr West Virginia Senator? The LEFTIST PINHEAD’s favorite racist. He probably was remembering his good old days when he was calling out the firehoses, burning crosses in the fields and wearing that nice pointy LEFTIST PINHEAD white hood.

  65. 2876

    PuddyKoresh – I never said it was original. Read my post again. I took “BUSH-DAVIDIAN” from talk radio.

    D’oh!!!

    Not getting off to good start as a leader of the HA.org BD’s are you Puddy Koresh?

  66. 2877

    I got it Cynical – ProudAss. The donkocratic clown suit? That pointy headed white uniform with the eye cotouts worn by Grand Klagon Robert KKK 3 Sheets to the Wind Byrd. Donkocrats always said they look better in white. Why would they care if it’s percale, sateen, or heavyweight? A white sheet is a white sheet. I wonder who posed for the official conehead look? Maybe it was a relative of rugrat602.

  67. 2878

    You are right for a change clueless. I missed the radio reference because my brain kicked in about Internet stuff. My bad. What BD? You mean you’re playing the role of Janet Reno. Probably just as ugly too.

    Regarding Robert 3-Sheets to the Wind Byrd. I now know the official CLOWN suit Cynical – ProudASS. It’s the one worn by the Grand Klagon himself. You know a pointy white hat, percale, satin, sateen, or heavyweight white sheets with circular holes for the two beady eyes of a donkocrat.

  68. 2879

    You are right for a change clueless. I missed the radio reference because my brain kicked in about Internet stuff. My bad. What BD? You mean you’re playing the role of J-a-n-e-t R-e-n-o. Probably just as ugly too.

    Regarding R-o-b-e-r-t 3-S-h-e-e-t-s to the W-i-n-d B-y-r-d. I now know the official CLOWN suit Cynical – ProudASS. It’s the one worn by the G-r-a-n-d K-l-a-g-o-n himself. You know a pointy white hat, percale, satin, sateen, or heavyweight white sheets with circular holes for the two beady eyes of a donkocrat.

  70. 2881

    ” Go ahead. Squeeze the wheeze. People often do……”

    “Hey! Watch out! You almost tripped me with those shoes!”

    Klaxon horns honk softly, gigantic shoes gently flop, and the busload of depressed clowns heads toward the next Republican rally. Mr. Cynical smiles , well, cynically, and hands the head clown a huge rubber check:

    “Payment in full!” says Cynical. No. There’s no time to stop at a bank. You can cash it after the gig….”

  71. 2882

    * Poor Stefan thinks Roger Rabbit is Dean Logan blogging on a King County computer. That’s bullshit, but it’s useless to argue with him, as Stefan is impervious to all known facts.

    Comment by Roger Rabbit— 11/1/05 @ 8:51 pm

    Dean Logan IS incredibly stupid, but he’s not THAT stupid.

  73. 2884

    Robert Byrd. Well at least GBS is disgusted with him, but no one else here.

  74. 2885

    Disliking CLOWNS is easy——–
    A clown wrote the original music and lyrics to (you guessed it) “Macarena.”
    They are different than the rest of us.
    They rhyme with frowns.
    They have big feet.
    See: The Seinfeld episode where George meets “Eddie” the clown.
    They have a phobia named after them. (coulrophobia, more commonly known as clownophobia)
    Jack Handy “Deep Thought”: To me, clowns aren’t funny. In fact, they’re kind of scary. I’ve wondered where this started and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus, and a clown killed my dad.
    Read the Stephen King book, “It”.
    You know what they say, “Once a clown, always a clown.”
    I sang a sad song about them (needs REAL player).
    See: The Animaniacs episode where Wakko meets the Jerry Lewis-like clown.
    A clown stole my dad’s job.
    I bet Paul Newman never played a clown character. (You gotta like Paul Newman)
    A clown ate the dog that ate my homework. (And my professor wouldn’t believe me!)
    See: The Bill Murray movie, “Quick Change.”
    They don’t follow vehicle safety rules (20 in a car can’t be legal).
    A clown wouldn’t make a good superhero. Ex: “Never fear, Clown-Man is here!” (See, it’s an oxymoronic phrase…not that I’m scared of clowns, mind you.)
    See: Any episode of the Simpson’s featuring Krusty the Clown. (One word: seedy)
    Clowns stink.
    See: Any episode of In Living Color featuring Homey D. Clown. (One word: militant)
    Clowns have to smile all the time. Repressing all their non-happy feelings can’t be good for them.
    I have never seen a clown help an old lady across the street.
    Another Jack Handy “Deep Thought”: You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he’s real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.

  75. 2886

    Lyndon Johnson knew that signing the Civil Rights Act would cripple the Democratic Party because all the hateful racist crackers that PacMan wants to like him in his inimitably pathetic way would move over to the Republicans where they could find a real Negro-Hating home. Helllllo Willie Horton and those “looting” and “murdering” bands of Louisiana Hutus that exist only in the imaginations of Republicans– the very people that PacMan–the most docile Negro ever–wants to be buddies with.

    And all you can come up with is one old Dem. Senator who was in the KKK 60 years ago and has apologised for it?
    ? What about that Negro-baiting 100 year old wrinkly cracker Senator that sired a child by his parents black maid and went on to a long career of racism in the Republican party. He switched partys when it became clear that the Reps were the racist party of the future.

  77. 2888

    And all you can come up with is one old Dem. Senator who was in the KKK 60 years ago and has apologised for it? -Comment by harry poon— 11/2/05 @ 7:40 am

    Well, actually no.

    Ugly racism is alive and well in the party of democRATS, liberals and fruitcake fringies…

    “Black Democratic leaders in Maryland say that racially tinged attacks against Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele in his bid for the U.S. Senate are fair because he is a conservative Republican.”
    “Such attacks against the first black man to win a statewide election in Maryland include pelting him with Oreo cookies during a campaign appearance, calling him an “Uncle Tom” and depicting him as a black-faced minstrel on a liberal Web log.”

    “Delegate Salima Siler Marriott, a black Baltimore Democrat, said Mr. Steele invites comparisons to a slave who loves his cruel master or a cookie that is black on the outside and white inside because his conservative political philosophy is, in her view, anti-black.
    “Because he is a conservative, he is different than most public blacks, and he is different than most people in our community,” she said.

    How proud you all must be to finally be out of the racist closet…

    …although it does beg a question or 2 about your whole ‘diversity’ schtick your race whores try to peddle.

  78. 2889

    Josef the Dinolackey @76

    Savior? of what? the GOP’s sagging fortunes in Washington state?

    Rossi — went down
    Irons — going down
    I-912 — going down

    With “saviors” like David the Mother Beater, you guys don’t need Jesus anymore. Ha!

  82. 2893

    Wow…I found CynIrrs support group! -Comment by DamnageD— 11/2/05 @ 9:17 am

    Did you miss your Ritalin the last few days, nitwit? – Cyn provided that link long ago.

  83. 2894

    And the #2 reason (of 34) to hate us is…

    “they are different than the rest of us.”

    Now how friggen typicly REPUBLICAN is that?!?

  85. 2896

    oh, gee POUNDASS…did I not read every fucking piece of jibberish hes posted in the past week?

    Silly me…maybe I had better things to do with my life than hover over every single blog entry. And yes, I did miss my ritlin…sold it to CynIrrs kids for a tidy profit.

  87. 2898

    Harry Poon @ 75

    From one Liberal to another, your “docile Negro ever” comment is dangerously close to going too far. While I understand the intent and your meaning, you’re on the edge.

    On the issue of race, I’d prefer to see you take the position of reasoned intellect . For instance, I’m trying to have a debate with ChristmasGhost, but she keeps running from her words. (see my repost @ 41, it’s the 3rd time I’ve asked her this question. All I get is ‘silence of the lamb’).

    I’m about to take her out behind the woodshed and give her whipping of her life on the subject of race and politics.

    Trust me when I say Puddybud and PacMan are still smarting on their rear ends from the spanking I gave them (tough love if you will). ChristmasGhost is about to get a dose of the same.

    I admit that I’m the first person to climb all over conservatives on this blog that I don’t like. Take Ms Chickenhawk for instance, I like to call him a YELLOW ELEPHANT and a bed wetter who lives in his mother’s basement. But, I wouldn’t use racial overtures on my attack of the fucking CLOWN.

    Racial overtones makes your argument look weak. In the same way that Janet S. who likes to throw around derogatory racial comments.

    We have to police ourselves, unlike the righties. Realize, I’ve got your back at all times and that our moral clarity reaches a higher standard because we’re Liberals, and correct.

  89. 2900

    GBS—
    Allow me to add the adjective NUT to your description.
    You are a LEFTIST PINHEADED CLOWN who is a NUT!!!
    “Moral clarity”—-interesting dude.
    By the way, did you realize that PacMan is Black???
    Kind of hurts for you to attack an intelligent, articulate Black man who also thinks you are a LEFTIST PINHEADED CLOWN and a NUT, doesn’t it???
    Sorry PacMan, don’t mean to be presumptuous in your assessment of GBS and his CLOWN Community….but I suspect I am at least close in my assessment to yours.

  90. 2901

    Felix Fermin the Clown says:
    “Why are you so eager to dismiss Mrs. Irons’ story? When almost her entire family backs her up?”

    Almost her entire family??????????????
    Where have you been CLOWN!
    A Battle-Ax mother and an even loonier sister is far from the entire family. The fact is way more other family members (sister, aunts & uncles) back David and confirm the old BATTLE-AX hates her son because of his political views.
    What kind of mother would do this publicly???? A MAMA CLOWN!

    Folks would rather deal with Sims horrible leadership on Transportation, Election Dept., SWA and the CAO. These are issues that affect everyone. Now add to that, SIMS attempt to ram a smoke-and-mirrors budget!!!!

    David CLOWNstein’s SHITSQUAD Tactics have lead to refocus the election debate away from Sims record and onto an 11-year-old allegation where the poor abused Battle-Ax NEVER filed formal charges.

    David Irons has taken the high road on this. I respect him for it.
    Sims on the other hand, tries to pretend he and his staff knew nothing about it.
    But then POOF, CLOWNstein and SindelCLOWN admit discussing and orchestrating it.

    Many voters are sick of Sims and his SHITSQUAD’s. They are offensive.
    If SIMS loses====LoganCLOWN is FIRED!!!!!!!!
    If IRONS wins====LoganCLOWN is FIRED!!!!!!!!!
    Good enough for me.

  91. 2902

    @ 89

    What are you saying about PacMan????

    He’s, BLACK!!

    OH, BULLSHIT on you CLOWN!!

    I call BULLSHIT on you. I’m certian PacMan is no BLACK MAN. Next you’re going to be saying Puddybud is a BLACK MAN.

    Hahahahahahahahahaha
    Shut up!

  93. 2904

    FUCKING CHICKENHAWK CLOWN @ 89

    Are you fucking retarded?

    PacMan a BLACK MAN?!? What? Do you think he’s one of those East Coast Black dudes?

  98. 2909

    yeaWrong @ 38

    Strategic Vision? Why didn’t you get your numbers straight from Karl Rove?

  100. 2911

    Hey Turd Blossom, Dick Weed, Ms Chickenhawk, Dip shit Clown @ 99

    I knew the facts before you made the presumptions.

    You stupid, stupid bed wetter.

    Check with PacMan or Puddybud.

    BTW what kind of a wussy uses “nincompoop?”

    Is that how your mommy scolds you in the morning after you wake up with wet sheets?

  102. 2913

    For the Clueless-98 ‘Strategic Vision? Why didn’t you get your numbers straight from Karl Rove?’

    You and I both know Rove is too busy mooning the dems from a window in the WH.

    I would think you could find the poll is credible based on the Bush numbers in the same poll:

    2. Do you approve or disapprove of President Bush’s job performance?
    Approve 35%
    Disapprove 59%
    Undecided 6%

    Do you have better poll numbers? In fact, have you even seen or heard from Gregoire recently?

  103. 2914

    GBS @41…….good grief! a spanking? oh honey…you couldn’t do THAT with an army……really, get a grip on your own actual abilities okay?
    so you want clarification do you?
    okay…first off. i am hardly running from you…but thanks for that laugh. some of us actually have companies and work to take care of. not all of us can play on our employer’s computer all day, can we?
    unless of course you work for any government agency in washington…especially king co. roger rabbit= dean logan? interesting thought. but i’m afraid to say that roger [as much of an idiot as he usually is] still shows alot more intelligence than dean “there are only 200,000 people in tacoma” logan.
    but that’s not hard to do…and i digress.
    what did i mean. well, i’m sure since you do seem to have a fairly good grasp of the english language that you just think you are going to have a big “AH-HA” moment here…..and your question is completely rhetorical. that being said here goes…….
    in the history of our country [and every other i might add] there are times when things were done that are wrong. did they seem wrong at the time? probably to quite a few. but to the majority they didn’t. times change. ever hear that expression? and you can’t change the past…you can only make the future different.try driving your car while only looking in the rearview mirrow….you won’t get very far. past history should be used as a reminder not an excuse to not move forward.
    there was slavery , racism, and an inexcusable push to wipe native americans off the planet. all of these things were completely wrong.
    are they still happening in this country ? no…they aren’t. and all the race baiting that smarmy people on the far left want to do won’t change that fact.
    so apologizing for things our ancestors did is not only stupid …it is merely window dressing of the worst kind. how many sincere apologies have you gotten that came from a “spokesman” for the offender? these kind of apologies usually are completly insincere and are actually a sign that nothing is going to change. don’t apologize for something you didn’t do….just make sure, do everything you can to make sure, they don’t ever happen again.and on that note…here are a few suggestions you and your liberal brethren might want to think about.scaring people into voting for something [or against something] is racism[and it’s exactly the same tactic that nutty far right christians use to ‘control’ their ‘flocks’] when you suggest that because someone is a minority that they need the democratic party to tell them how to vote….you are a racist.welfare was state sponsored racism.
    and if you really want to talk about people who have the least rights in the US…i’ll give you a hint. it’s not african americans. the people you might want to think about live on reservations….in the dakotas.
    and as for my ancestors. there is one perk that comes from being a mayflower descendant……there aren’t alot of mysteries about my family. the worst thing they did was land on america….and i suppose you could extrapolate from that ,that somehow my ancestors were guilty of something. but really….all they were guilty of was evolution baby. that’s what it is.
    peoples MOVE , cultures change…it’s the nature of everything. rocks and people we all do it.
    so give me your best AH HA………

  104. 2915

    @ 103

    Just as I expected, a very long winded non answer. My question was not rhetorical. By it’s very nature it was a clarification question to illuminate your position or knowledge.

    Exposing the ‘con’ in conservative is what I like to do best. When you write, your mind is on parade for all to see. And what you have demonstrated to us is that you ZERO understanding as to why the RNC chairman made the apology to the NAACP, as I originally asked.

    As with all con artist you sprinkled in some factual statements with what you “thought” might be the correct answers. Nice distraction with the Native American angle BTW, although completely irrelevant to the question.

    History, particularly contemporary history, is completely germane to moving forward with a sense of purpose and understanding of what needs to be done, and what should never be done again. I’ll spare you the doomed to repeat history analogy.

    Suffice to say you do not understand the mentality of modern day conservatism and how the corruption that was spawned by Dixicrats has reached its zenith today in the White House and Congress.

    Thanks for trying, but you’re not even worthy of a spanking. Which, by the way I can do with either my left or my right “armies.”

    Here’s your parting gift for playing along. **Pfffffffft.**

  105. 2916

    GBS…….wow, what a silly blowhard you are.
    i’m glad that you think the plight of the native americans living on the dakota reservations is “completely irrelevant”[bill clinton did too when he ripped them off BTW]……i think they already got that message from you and the other pandering libs.
    “Exposing the ‘con’ in conservative is what I like to do best”….if this statement is true than i really hope you are a trust fund baby because you are going to have a hard time making ends meet.LOL.
    “As with all con artist you sprinkled in some factual statements with what you “thought” might be the correct answers. Nice distraction with the Native American angle BTW, although completely irrelevant to the question.”
    wow…yet another zinger. oh….ouch. heh heh heh. so now you are a mind reader? what a pompous ass.they couldn’t just actually BE the correct answers now could they? i’m not in your tribe. good grief. are there no liberals with a brain out there?
    okay…that was totally rhetorical………
    thanks for that though………..i am still laughing.

  106. 2917

    Ms Ghost, there are a few liberals with a brain. Joe Lieberman, Ben Nelson to name two in the Senate.

    Then there are Teddy I Cheated at Harvard Kennedy and his alter ego Teddy Chappaquiddick Sure is Cold Kennedy and his other personality Teddy Where’s the Bar Kennedy, his nephew Robert No Windmills Where’s my LearJet Kennedy Jr, Nancy I need Another Facelift Pelosi, Harry Place your Bets Reid, Richard If the Turban Fits Durbin, Patrick Let’s Tell a Secret Leahy, Hillary Peter Paul is After Me Clinton and scores of other lefty fools around.

  107. 2918

    Damn ChristmasGhost I forgot to add Kathleen Throw Those Oreos Kennedy Townsend to my illustrious list.

  110. 2921

    GBS: Don’t get a swelled head about some long ago history. You were taken to the shed a few days ago because you will not address recent donkocratic history. You continue to ignore recent events that which Pudster brings to YOUR ATTENTION. I suppose the woodshed comment above is appropriate for your butt? Have you eaten some Oreo cookies that bounced off of Michael Steele lately?

    GBS, you do have a great memory or you keep a list of what everyone says in some archives. Good for you. I archive at times. I saw some animal hind partsters ridiculed Puddybud when he whipped out some old links for review MONTHS AGO. So he must archive also!

    Regarding racism, being the most forthright black man on this board, what did christmasghost say that was racist GBS? Now harry poon is another racist of the headless lucy type (notice they are both males) and I appreciate you trying to police him too. It is quite interesting to see when a right thinking person makes an inference regarding racial issues, questioning fact or activities they are called racist, but when a demented left sider says racist things or does racist acts the people on animal hind parts give it a pass? Yes, you progressives are so progressive. Makes me want to puke and I haven’t eaten breakfast yet.

  111. 2922

    puddybud………thanks for the reminder about the liberals with a brain……
    and thanks for the big laugh…..great names.
    and pac man…i couldn’t have said it better myself. BINGO.

  112. 2923

    PacMan:

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Long ago history, Puh-lease. It wasn’t long ago history when you were vilifying me for Viet Nam anti war protestors.

    I love Oreo cookies, and I dunk them in both regular and chocolate milk. But not equally, because most of the time we only have regular white milk in the house. I hope that’s not offensive.

    OK back to ChristmasGhost. She proved her ignorance with a huge non answer, you know it, I know it, Puddybud knows it and any other intellectually honest person who read it knows it.

    Now, self-proclaimed “most forthright black man on this board,” where did I infer that ChristmasGhost said anything racist, or where did I say she was racist?

    Let me answer that for you. No where. So what’s the real point of your comment and questions. It seems to me you meant the hypocrisy you see from the left leaning posters vs. the conservative posters when the issue of race comes up. Is that it PacMan, the hypocrisy?

    If that’s the case you must be suffering from anorexia, because the hypocrisy coming from the right is unprecedented in American history. I bet food to you is like Tequila to someone who’s been on one too many Tequila/lime shot benders.

    Clinton lied about an extra marital affair in a court of law.
    Bush lied about the intelligence to send our country to war.

    Which is worse?

    This week, President Bush, the 43rd president of the United States, has officially borrowed more money from foreign governments that the previous 42 presidents COMBINED!!

    Has does that play with your “tax and spend liberal” mantra?
    Who is going to pay for that much debt? More precisely how many future generations are going to pay for it?

    Bush and the Republicans are the only people culpable. Bush has never met a piece of pork barrel legislation that he wasn’t willing sign his name to. Not once has he used is veto pen has he?

    Actually the best place to start is with Bush is his original lie heading for the White House: “I’m a uniter, not a divider.”

    Followed by the $200,000 worth of vandalism done by the outgoing Clinton admin to the White House.

    Right up to “Give ’em, Hell” Harry Reid having to use the Senate Parliamentary RULES to force Bill “insider trading” Frist to fulfill his broken promises to finish phase II of the prewar intelligence failures. Speaking of lies about the war and prewar intell, how’s the (un)Able Danger thing working out for you guys?

    As you say, let’s address the constitutional crisis’s we are facing today, not “some long ago history.”

  113. 2924

    PacMan:

    You know I have a good memory. I told you that when you were badgering me for my “college” education credentials, because you have some hoity toity Ivy League education.

    Hey dude, just because I’m a Guinness Stout drinking kind of guy and you’re a upper crust, Chablis sipping with your pinky extended kind of dude don’t put me down, man.

  115. 2926

    Dude:

    One more thing, you’re goning to have to stream KVI 570 next Monday. Either me or Puddybud is going to be on air over this David Irons beatng his mother brew-haha.

  116. 2927

    Puddybud:

    What time in the 5 O’clock our did your friend John Carlson say one of us could be on his show. I’m sure he’s responded to your email by now. At least hopefully he hasn’t ignored you. Shoot, what am I saying? Of course he wouldn’t ignore you, you’ve worked on iniatives with him before and you personally know him. Considering Carlson could get a lib on the radio making an on-air apology to a conservative for such an egregious charge. Can you imagine how long he’d use that for ‘bumpers’ promoting his show. Geez, my voice would be on KVI for years.

    Thanks, Puddybud. I’m getting nervous about the possibility of speaking on air. Are you?

    Oh my, have you looked at the calendar yet? That David Irons better hurry up and take the polygraph exam. Because he needs to do that by 48 hours in advance of election day or you know what you have to do.

    Oh gosh today’s Thursday, you only have until end of day Saturday. Let’s see that’s today, Friday, Saturday, oh crap that’s only 2 1/2 days!

    Yikes, sort of a nail biter isn’t it?

  117. 2928

    GBS…………okay, now you are just being completely dishonest.
    “Clinton lied about an extra marital affair in a court of law.
    Bush lied about the intelligence to send our country to war.”
    i have heard this same tired line from every loony liberal out there…so i am going to ask you now to tell me exactly how he lied.did you hear this along with ” we hate the war but love our troops and BTW they killed 100,000 iraqis.”
    lied about the intelligence huh? so were all the senators in on it too? how about the brits? everybody in on this big lie? how about bill clinton who said that he thought they had weapons of mass destruction too? is he *gasp* a liar?
    and what is your take on what the president of iran meant when he said he was going to wipe israel off the map, hmmmmmm?
    let me guess….he’s just teasing, right?
    come on…let’s see what you really have……..intellectually.

  118. 2929

    GBS: Carlson did answer me but gave me nothing on Monday time. Looks like I will lose here and if David doesn’t take it he will lose also.

    I await the answer to christmasghost.

  119. 2930

    @ 117

    Oh Lord, do you conservatives live in a total state of denial, dishonesty, or possibly both.

    How about those 16 words in his State of the Unioin address?

    How about Colin Powell saying “Why else would Iraq have the anodized coated aluminum tubes?” Funny part here, you can’t have any andodizing on aluminum if you want to enrich uranium to weapons grade. Besides, the tubes were the wrong diameter and length. Know who told the White House that? Dept of Energy where our nuclear experts work.

    How about the forged Niger documents?

    How did those documents come into possesion of the US? Hint: not through the normal channels. Can you say back channels?

    The whole CIA outing crime is all interrelated with faulty intell, Iraq, Libby, Rove, Cheney, Bush and the rest.

    Why are the Republicans in the Senate dragging their feet looking into the manipulation of the prewar intell?

    How do you explain Bush, Cheney, Rove, Libby, Rice and the rest of the White House Iraq War Group blanketing the airways with there “mushroom cloud” fear mongering messages?

    Why did Dick Cheney have no DOUBT Saddam was reconstituting his nuclear program? Clearly, there was doubt in many experts minds.

    Why did Bush cut short the work of the weapons inspectors?

    Time was on our side, there was no reason not to let the weapons inspectors continue their work.

    War in Iraq, was not the LAST option. In all cases, sending our forces to war should be the last and only option.

    Any reason to circumvent the last option, is based on a lie.

    Be intellectually honest with yourself, Bush & Company “sold” the war, it wasn’t the last option, and clearly, Major Combat Opertions in Iraq have NOT ended.

  120. 2931

    GBS-119

    Spewing lies repeatedly does not make them true. It is you who must “live in a total state of denial, dishonesty, or possibly both.”

  121. 2932

    GBS……..THAT’S all you’ve got? oh, for cripes sake….talking points from moveon.moron?
    do you ever read and think for yourself?
    first of all if we had “faulty intell” as you put it…..do you think that could just possibly be because bill clinton spent his entire time in office [when he wasn’t screwing off] raping the CIA?
    and you doubt that saddam had weapons of mass destruction huh? that’s just plain stupid. how did he gas all those people, hmmmmm? just because we didn’t find them [see syria here] doesn’t mean they didn’t exist. don’t be so foolishly naive.
    so in your little world the real world that the rest of us live in would be better off with saddam still in power, right? saddam…the guy that was cutting checks to homicide bombers. the real torturer. ah….but you and your ilk would rather go after our troops….because in your little world they MIGHT be torturers? forget the REAL king of torture…..cause in ” hate america first land” the problem has to be us right?
    and i thought you were smarter than this………..

  122. 2933

    xmasghost

    Hahahahahaha

    Talk about stupid talking points.

    Here you go again, the “Blame Clinton” crowd for our actions.

    That is PATHETIC!!

    OK, here’s a quiz for Xghost, since I’m so stupid you should EASILY answer this: What is the type service life of the chemical weapons used bu Saddam used against the Kurds?

    Your ILK, those who love to beat the drums of war, but have other priorities other than military service, have not one once of care for what the troops endure for your false policies.

    Your ILK doesn’t care about the troops or you wouldn’t support Bush’s failed policy. Well, check out the polls, HONEST Americans are not supporting Bush’s failed policies either. Most feel he is untrustworthy, most feel he’s doing a poor job on the War on Terror.

    Last but not least, specifically which one of my points at 119 are false?

    Come on Xghost now’s your chance to shine and show us how intellectually honest you are by answering my question above and disputing my points.

    Oh, boy can’t hardly wait for he clarity you’re about to bring to the debate.

  123. 2934

    @ 121

    Is that allllll I got? What? The truth isn’t good enough for you?

    Oh, yeah I forgot I was dealing with “we screwed up so blame Clinton” crowd.

    Talking points; that’s rich. From the goof balls who watch, listen and repeat talking points from Fox News, RNC and the rest of the spin machine.

    OK, here’s your chance to shine. Specifically, which point is false and why?

    And, one for WMD’s since you brought up Saddam and his use of WMD’s. Saddam did use CW on the Iranians and the Kurds — I believe we can agree here. When was the last known time Saddam used CW and, here’s the cruical part of the question, what is the service life of CW’s?

    Now, when you figure that out, piece it together with an accurate historical timeline, you’ll start to figure out the truth.

    Now, we’re going to see who reads and thinks for themselves.

    “Good luck and good night.”

  124. 2935

    GBS…….. you might want to rethink your question, although thanks for the second post where it was readable.
    first of all…you haven’t been paying attention have you? you want to know the exact life span of a chemical weapon like sarin for instance? is that what you are asking?
    it would depend on the container and time. BUT….if you ,for one moment, think that sarin in any way degrades down to a harmless or near harmless substance you are a fool.
    BTW…..my husband is a scientist who specializes in the testing of substances such as sarin. but good try.
    however, if you and your ILK think that it degrades down to a harmless substance then i suggest the next time they want to put in a chemical weapons depot..anywhere…..be sure NOT to show up for the protest against it. after all..it’s harmless, right?
    and hypocrisy is a bad thing……..
    where is what you said false? the whole implication that the president knowingly lied to us so we would go to war…..that’s about as false as you can get. unless, of course bill clinton was in on it.it would take a very paranoid and cynical person to assume something like that. and if we wanted to go down that path …clinton is a much bigger target. chinese spies, doing interns in the oval office…….the whole ME ME ME persona that is clinton.
    and i am not, actually, one of the “it’s all clinton’s fault crowd”.he did, however, render the CIA almost useless.
    i think he was an idiot with no self control…..but definitely not what you are accusing bush of.
    next?

  125. 2936

    GBS…….oh, and BTW,the assumption that you would like to base a timeline on for chemical weapons…IE “When was the last known time Saddam used CW and, here’s the cruical part of the question, what is the service life of CW’s?”
    aren’t you assuming an awful lot here? our intel wasn’t very good…..that we know. my god.you trumpet it every five seconds, right? so how would we know?
    would you want to use that same time line for reference if your children were sitting in a room with the containers?
    if anyone has been watching too much tv it’s you my friend. sarin and the other chemical weapons may not stay at top weapons grade forever….but ,believe me, they stay deadly enough.
    so unless you can honestly say that you would risk your own children on something you heard cnn say………i think you are on the wrong track.

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

Buy me a couple drinks and maybe I’ll blab to you about all the new dirt I’m digging up on David Irons.

Comments

  1. 2937

    And don’t forget to add Goldy, discussing your plans and getting your walking orders from Sims and company too! Be careful what you say tonight. You never know who may be listening!

  2. 2938

    Roger Rabbit rarely appears in public, and never announces his appearances in advance due to traffic problems caused by the crush of admiring fans, papparazzi, and process servers.

  3. 2939

    Goldy—
    Haven’t you damaged the Sims Campaign enough???
    Pounding down a couple cordials apparently makes your mouth incapable of stopping!
    If Irons pulls this iron out of the fire, we owe it all to YOU!!!
    Happy drinking!
    I won’t be there….or wiiiiiiilllll I???
    I’m waiting for the Rabbit to tell us the story about that teacher he nailed back in grade school. I doubt it happened…the Rabbit has always been a bit light in the loafers.

  4. 2940

    That’s right, IDGAF… the Sims campaign sends secret instructions encoded in the foam on my mug of Manny’s Pale Ale. But… as everybody who was there knows… the Montlake Ale House was out of Manny’s last week, and so I couldn’t have gotten my instructions from the campaign.

  5. 2941

    With or without someone else picking up your tab, Goldy, we all know how you keep your mouth shut. Of course you’ll be blathering on about your little fantasy foray into journalism… I can hardly wait for your next poop scoop! Yawn…

  6. 2942

    Goldy,

    So you are saying that you were not instructed and did not run the David Irons Story past the Simms campiagn before posting it?

    You are a liar

  7. 2943

    Goldy, if taking marching orders from Sims means that the public will know about severe and disqualifying personality flaws in a candidate they otherwise might vote for, by all means, keep marching. The public has a right to know.

  8. 2944

    assholic prr:

    So you are saying that you were not instructed and did not run the David Irons Story past the Simms campiagn before posting it?

    As Goldy has stated several times, he ran the story past the Irons campaign before posting it. They didn’t respond, which could be construed as not denying it.

    I wasn’t aware that either a quarterback-turned-broadcaster or his current QB son was campaigning around here. Which one, and what’s his schtick?

  10. 2946

    Good grief Goldy! Maybe you should start working for the Enquirer, you are sure walking the line. Of course, I’m sure flinging mud at Irons is more important than any of the other REAL issues involved with the current election. Why would we want to know what either candidate wants to do in regards to Election Reform (we already know that Sims doesn’t think any refrom is needed).

  19. 2955

    Who the hell are you “recalling”, Josef?

    Must be getting toward time to take your meds again … the effects of the last dose are clearly wearing off.

  24. 2960

    Clallam County sent out some Absentees with the return envelope addressed to San Juan County>

  25. 2961

    Looks like Irons has won out the day. Everyone now knows that David Goldstain is nothing more than a…well…Gold Stain on the Horse’s Ass.

  27. 2963

    Yehaw! Vot fer that Irons guy cuz he’s got balls! Mah mammy, she need a little slappin round like Irons done, specially when she bitch at me for drinkin, which is my consti-tooshunal rite to do whenere I wants to. Yeah! Freedum in a Merika! Liburals is liers like my drinkin buds say.

  28. 2964

    @5

    Goldy has brought down Michael Brown and David Irons in 1 month — not bad for a guy who doesn’t even claim to be a journalist.

  29. 2965

    @10

    I think it’s relevant whether a candidate for County Executive beats his mother, has rages, and is a pathological liar.

  31. 2967

    @20

    You’re right, sometimes voters are morons — just look at the president they elected. That is … IF they elected him, which is doubtful.

  32. 2968

    @ 11 “Where’s John Carlson when you need him?”

    Same thing I am wondering! I have this backed up septic tank, and I have been waiting for John for 1 1/2 hours.

    Nothing like seeing Carlson suck shit out of a 10 inch pipe using just his powerful lungs and crap encrusted lips!

  34. 2970

    RUFUS, everyone who did not touch the Kool AID knows that Bush 2004 got 123 votes from scattered wingnuts throughout the US, and 60 Mil + from Diebold based in Ohio.

  35. 2971

    34

    I know but did the software in the Diabold machines get changed by secret transmissions from the planet Erf. Have you heard anything new about this latest revelation donkageddon? It makes sense in a donk kind a way.

  37. 2973

    35

    Of course it makes sense. Just like your dumbass dia hahaha
    haaha bold voitng machine theory. Iam just speaking on your level. I suppose the next thing you will tell me that there are 60 million plus people in Ohio… ah er never mind you already did.

  39. 2975

    1992 — Clinton 43.01% of popular vote, 32 states + DC, 370 electoral votes
    1992 — Bush 37.45% of popular vote, 18 states, 168 electoral votes
    1996 — Clinton 49.24% of popular vote, 31 states + DC, 379 electoral votes
    1996 — Dole 40.71% of popular vote, 19 states, 159 electoral votes

    Looks like a pair of ass-kickings to me.

  40. 2976

    39

    Ross baby sucking off the republican votes

    1992 – Clinton(democrats) 43.01% of popular vote, 32 states + DC, 370 electoral votes
    1992 – Bush/Ross(Republicans) Perot 57.00% of popular vote, 18 states, 168 electoral votes
    1996 – Clinton(democrats) 49.24% of popular vote, 31 states + DC, 379 electoral votes
    1996 – Dole/Ross(Republicans) 40.71% of popular vote, 19 states, 159 electoral votes

    I will give Clinton this much.. he was one of our better president no one wanted in the first place.

  43. 2979

    By the way, Rufus, Perot was not a Republican … a lot of Democrats (including me) voted for him.

  45. 2981

    Perot not a republican? Perot had all the donks jumping on his corporate bandwagon since we know how all you democrats just love big business running government. The rabbit trying to rewrite the facts. That is like saying Nader get 50% of his votes from Repubs.

  46. 2982

    Man… Perot! Why can’t they make Republicans like that anymore!

    Balanced Budget! Sane Foriegn Policy! Charts!

    Ah, the old days when they had Republican’s any one could actually vote for and not hang yourself in the morning!

  47. 2983

    I remember 92 so well. My father and I could vote together. Perot!

    Then in 96 FOX News came and Dad has been senile , and cyanide (Kool Aid drunk) ever since.

    Dman you 50 gallon drum Kool Aid Jamestown!!!!

    Damn you!

  48. 2984

    You want to have a cure for the “social security” problem.

    Perot would have told everyone of you Trust Fund Republicans to “Eat Shit And Die!”

    That was called “means testing” for you forgetful Neo-Cons.

    Damn I miss Perot.

  50. 2986

    Maybe after Greenspan retires, he can teach some continuing education courses on fiscal responsibility for Republicans.

  51. 2987

    I voted for Perot twice myself.
    The little bastard would have won in 1992….but he freaked out and leaked some nutty stuff cuz he was afraid of winning.
    I liked the little man though.
    Smart.
    Could simplify economic issues….even so morons like Donnageddon could understand.
    I believe America is poised for a 3rd Party Candidate in the near future that is basically a Libertarian who wants government out of people’s lives except for Defense and Infrastructure….and lowers taxes to eliminate all the social engineering bullshit and government waste in Defense, Infrastructure and useless programs.

  57. 2993

    @51

    Yeah Cyn, Perot thought about it, realized he might actually get elected president, and chickened out — as any sane person would do! Only a nut or egomaniac wants that job.

  58. 2994

    Hey Doofus what facts am I rewriting? Do you disbelieve me when I say I voted for Perot? I don’t give a damn what you think — screw you!

  59. 2995

    57
    No Rabbit you might have been one of the thousands of democrats who voted for Perot. Of course the Republicans voted for him the tens of millions. The difference is we got Clinton in the White house in 92 not Bush.

  60. 2996

    58

    “tens” of millions? uh … Perot got 19,743,821 votes in 1992 … that’s only ONE ten million, slightly less than two “tens of millions” — dolt. Learn to fucking count.

    Not to put too fine a point of it, but if most of the people who voted for Perot were Republicans as you claim, they GAVE the election to Clinton by voting for the guy with the Alfred E. Neuman ears instead of their own guy. So what’s the beef? You guys wanted Clinton, didn’t you? That’s why you voted for Perot instead of your own fucking candidate, isn’t it? And now you’re bitching about it?!!

    At least I had an excuse for voting for Perot. How could I, Roger Rabbit, not vote for a guy with ears like that? :D

  61. 2997

    Rog@57–
    I absolutely believe Perot chickened out.
    He had momentum and the lead with a couple weeks to go.
    Too bad…he was a lovable little bastard.
    The elite from both the R’s and D’s saw there little club in serious jeopardy for awhile.

  62. 2998

    Yeah, Cyn, too bad Perot was a chickenshit. We could’ve used a new party then. Still could — let’s get rid of the GOP — they’re worse than useless!

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

I plan to be there at least some of the time, but it’s not clear whether I’ll be there early, late or the whole time.

Comments

  2. 3000

    Swift Boat Vet,

    I’d like to see improvement in health care in the country, but the only thing I can think of would be to crank out three or four times as many doctors and limit the # of lawyers. Do you think that would work?

    I know it’s off-subject, but what do you think?

  3. 3001

    You libs sure drink alot. Shouldn’t you be using these funds to help blacks get more $2000 debit cards in New Orleans? Goldy, how many blacks show up at your gathering? Tell the truth! [Rice/J.C. Watts 2008!!]

  4. 3002

    Libertarian,

    I realize you didn’t ask me (and that it is OT), but that seems an overly simple solution to the problem. Lawyers aren’t the problem — just like guns don’t kill people. You need to limit frivolous suits and also make malpractice totally unacceptable (instead of the actuarial equation it is today).

    “Universal” healthcare (aka nationalized health care) won’t solve the problem either. In Canada and other places, they’ve ended up with a two-tiered system — flimsy “safety net” for most people and private medicine for the really rich.

    The real solution to healthcare problems would be the creation of CDHP’s, consumer directed health plans. Part of the problem with today’s health insurance is that insured people waste medical resources because they aren’t paying for it — especially (ahem, ahem…union) employees who negotiate no-copay or low copay plans. Also, medical insurance isn’t portable and is a major hassle.

    Instead, employers (or the government for public assistance cases) purchases high-deductible major medical insurance and then puts something like $2,000 into a health savings account. The covered person can then spend that money however (medically) and with whomever they wish. Want nothing but chiropractic? Sure. Want to see a doctor for a hangnail? Sure. Its your money. And to encourage people to NOT waste medical services — especially the current behavior of “using up” insurance at the end of the year — the money ROLLS OVER and the account is portable. That also means that healthy younger people can save up their medical money for later years when they’ll really need it. And if you get very sick or get pregnant, you have the major medical policy as a backup.

    CDHP’s are a win/win/win… People regain their power to choose who provides their medical care and when. Employers, on the whole, will see a decrease in medical benefit costs. Doctors no longer have to deal with insurance (and the SIGNIFICANT cost/hassle of the paperwork). Also, it should free up medical resources because people will have disincentive to abuse the system.

    Remember, back in the olden days when people paid for medical care out of their own pockets, doctors would have sufficient time to personally take on charity cases (or take time payments or a side of beef or whatever for compensation).

  5. 3003

    What do you guys drink?

    I mean, over in the red burbs we drink T&Ts, imported beers (not local left wing brews), napa wines

  6. 3004

    @ 4

    how can a beer be left wing?

    “Jim McDermott’s Baghdad Brew”?

    I drink Mirrorpond, from Deschutes Brewery in Bend, OR.

  7. 3005

    I’m rather fond of Mac & Jack’s African Amber myself. Pike Pub Brewery’s Brown Ale is a favourite too.

  8. 3006

    @ 2

    “the only thing I can think of would be to crank out three or four times as many doctors and limit the # of lawyers. Do you think that would work?”

    Well, its a big subject. I read a book by Matt Miller, “The Two Percent Solution: Fixing America’s Problems In Ways Liberals And Conservatives Can Love”. I agree with Miller. You can check it out at http://www.mattmilleronline.com I don’t want to bore the shit out of ya’ll by going into details, but let me know what you think.

  9. 3007

    On my own it would be a nice lager, whether Czech, Mexican or Japanese, all are good (none domestic)

    If with you guys, I’d need something stronger. T&T would be too sissy, so I’d have to have a good southern bourbon (or 2).

  10. 3008

    @ 3

    I’ve got problems with CDHPs. It just looks like high deductible insurance, which is fine if you are healthy and wealthy, but if you are a sick person, you lose. Unions aren’t to blame, either, because their members have the kind of insurance we all should have. Besides, if big companies were smart, they’d get out of the health insurance game, because they are subsidizing small companies that don’t provide benefits.

  12. 3010

    Mark, staying OT @3:

    “Universal” healthcare (aka nationalized health care) won’t solve the problem either. In Canada and other places, they’ve ended up with a two-tiered system – flimsy “safety net” for most people and private medicine for the really rich.

    This is just plain wrong about Canada. Although there are differences by province, in most (more likely, all) provinces, the universal healthcare system is little different from typical employer-based coverage in the US.

    Want to see your doctor? Call her up for an appointment. Sure, you may wait a bit if it’s non-urgent, but that’s the way it is here too.

    Want to change doctors? Not a problem … sharply different from US plans with their “preferred providers” and high “out of network” costs.

    Referrals to specialists may take awhile, but again that’s little different from the often-interminable delays here. And Canadians aren’t faced with choosing from just the few specialists associated with their specific insurance coverage.

    Anecdotes are basically meaningless, but I’ll use one anyway — a friend in Toronto had a brief episode of fairly mild chest pain. She called her primary care doc, who saw her right away. The doc then referred her to a cardiac specialist, who did a stress EKG test (treadmill) that same afternoon, soon followed by cardiac catheterization and a day or two in the hospital. Minimal occlusion, but some abnormalities, diagnosis was acute coronary syndrome. Treatment involves several longterm medications. Time from episode through full workup to treatment plan … about two days. Cost to patient, including prescriptions for years into the future … CDN$5 (I think that’s for the administrative costs of setting up her Rx renewals).

    The point is that this isn’t atypical for a Canadian. You may hear the scare stories about people who weren’t well handled, but you don’t hear about the usual care. I know no Canadians who would even think about trading their healthcare system for ours; instead, they’re mystified about how unfair, unwieldy, and expensive we’ve made our (non)system.

  14. 3012

    Swifty @ 9

    Yes, it is high-deductible insurance PLUS cash in a health savings account. Yes, there is a gap between the cash and the insurance deductible, but that part is negotiable (and could also be met through some sort of “gap” insurance for the perpetually sick).

    Unions actually ARE to blame, to an extent. They gave us HMO’s.

    You CANNOT have “free” medical care for all. People already abuse the system by “using up” their insurance at the end of each year. I have a few doctors as friends and I’ve heard about all of the people who come in for BS reasons.

    Also, a nationalized system requires the rationing of resources, which means dictating who you can see, when you can see them and for what reasons. CDHP’s give you TOTAL freedom.

  15. 3013

    Henry Weinhardt’s. Hey, it’s brewed in Warshington, now, but the recipe’s and the tradition is Oregon, posers. Go Al Runte!

  17. 3015

    @ 14

    We already ration resources. Poorer folks can ill afford using high deductible insurance, which means less utilization, and poorer health. Rich folks will always win under the plan you descibe. Instead of a socialist rationing plan, its a free market rationing plan. But its good that conservatives are coming to the table on this.

  18. 3016

    Swifty @ 6

    “how can a beer be left wing?”

    What about TsingTao? I’d say French beer as well, but I’m not sure there is such a thing.

  19. 3017

    bj @ 16

    Yep…Snow Cap is worth the seasonal wait, for sure.

    Aexia @ 7

    The Montlake Ale House does have Mac & Jack’s African Amber on tap.

  20. 3018

    Will any of the young Toledo looting and rioting Democrats be joining your cozy group? How about a few New Orleans homeless? Where is your compassion??

  21. 3019

    ConservativeFirst-17 ‘I’d say French beer as well, but I’m not sure there is such a thing.’

    There is, but it is a rip-off. You have to surrender it as soon as you get it.

  22. 3020

    N @ 12

    Hmmm… I’ve also known people from Canada who’ve had to come down to the US and pay out of their own pocket for care. The fact remains that care is RATIONED in Canada. Just like generally healthy people here in the US have few problems with the healthcare system, I’m sure generally healthy people in Canada are happy with their system, too. Or they’re just too stoned on legal pot to care. ;)

    And you still don’t address the problem we have here in the states of wasted medical resources on BS visits.

  23. 3021

    @2

    What do you think would happen if the legislature passed a law immunizing motorists from lawsuits? Do you think people would drive more carefully?

    So … are doctors cut from different cloth than the rest of humanity, or do they have the same human nature as everyone else? If doctors got their wish — no more lawsuits, no more lawyers — do you think they would practice medicine more carefully, and patients would be better off?

    That’s bullshit, and so is Initiative 330.

    By the way, I see the KING 5 web site today has an item that says there’s no proof malpractice caps lower doctors’ insurance premiums. They cited examples of cap states with much higher doctor insurance premiums than non-cap states.

  24. 3022

    Roger Rabbit rarely appears at DL, and never announces his apperances in advance due to traffic problems caused by the crush of admiring fans, papparazzi, and process servers.

  26. 3024

    23

    There, there … that wasn’t so hard, was it? BTW, who did the Heimlich Maneuver on you at 9:36 pm?

  27. 3025

    Hey, ya know what’s funny? Smart ass republicans making fun of democrats who drink micro-brew, when their preferred beer is piss water, uh, I mean, Budweiser, PBR, Miller and all the other All American beers that TV ads infer are patriotic and will get them laid while drunk pigs watching football. Go Al Runte!

  30. 3028

    American beers like Budweiser are mass produced for quantity, not quality. Oh, nevermind. Ya know why American beers are like screwing in a canoe? They’re like fucking close to water. Ya know what’s a really important thing to do after you’ve had a few American beers? Go drive somewhere. What? Don’t look at me like I’ve had too much to drink! This is America and I’m American an I can drink as much as I want. So screw you gimme another beer bartender OK? What? Screw you too, fucker! Where’s my beer?

  31. 3029

    Mark @ 20

    I don’t really care how many times you tap the CAPS LOCK key to spell “rationed”. I remain unconvinced. Health care is rationed in the US as well. It is rationed by wealth. If you have it, you get all the health care you want. No wealth? No health care for you, buddy.

    Health care is a messy complicated issued, but pulling out old right wing cannards like the rationing card and playing them moves the discussion exactly nowhere.

  32. 3030

    RJP @ 29: “No wealth? No health care for you, buddy.”

    Really? Hmmm… Considering I personally know both people who provide care to people on DSHS and people who are on DSHS, I call bulls**t.

    What I find interesting is that the only solution you Lefties want is nationalized healthcare (“universal” is just a marketing word). I mean, look how well the government does with education! Yeah, I want those guys running all of the medicine in the country.

    Are you really saying that under the nationalized system there would be unlimited healthcare for all? Whatever you want, whenever you want and from whomever you want? Part of the problem we have now is that people have zero incentive to take care of themselves and stay healthy in the first place. Take a look at the obesity statistics! People also waste health resources on BS visits, extra visits because they don’t follow directions and on “using up” their insurance at the end of the year.

  33. 3031

    Socialists out in force. None familiar w/ simple economics.

    Somebody rations resources. Either the market, or some human, agency.

    How should my doctor decide to spend his time? By some rulebook imposed by Olympic, or by his judgement and my willingness to pay him.

    If you can tell me how you defy the laws of gravity (that is, allocation has to happen, somebody or some system has to allocate time, money, drugs, xrays, hospital beds)….i’m all ears

  34. 3032

    Roger and others:

    I think we face a triple threat: doctors have lots of money from their practices, which attracts trial lawyers, who’d like to sue the bejeepres out of the docs, but then there’s malpractice unsurers who’d like to keep the premiums paid by the docs. The ones getting hosed down are the rest of us.

    Forget I-330 & I-336 for now. My contention is that more docs would mean more competition and lower doctor fees (i.e., less money for docs). If there’s less money to get, trail lawyers might focus on other areas to garner their wealth. With lower probablity of lawsuits, insurers might be forced to lower premiums for their doctor clients.

    OK, I Know it’s simplistic, but the system is not working now, and on that point I think we’ll all agree. Swiftboat Vet has some idea in the link he posted above. Not a bad place to start, and we need to start somewhere!

    As far as beer goes, I brew my own at Heads Up Brewing in Sivlerdale. Right now i’ve got a nut brown fermenting and it’ll be ready to bottle in a couple of weeks. If you’re serious about beer, you should give one of the brew-on-premises shops a try.

  35. 3033

    Libertarian @ 31

    Some of my friends are (or were) doctors. They ain’t all rich like they used to be.

    Lawyers go after malpractice suits because the victims are often very sympathetic and juries want to award significant amounts for the (semi-)permanent damage or death that is caused. What would your child be worth? How much money would a healthy 30-year-old take to saw off a leg?

    The fact is that insurers, doctors and hospitals will very quickly circle the wagons. It takes a blatant screw-up (or the rare doctor) to admit that something has gone horribly wrong.

    What the nationalized healthcare folks won’t admit is that medical resources are limited (although not fixed). With a “national HMO” system, there will be little incentive to enter medicine. Doctors — especially good ones — are already frustrated by the restrictions placed upon them by insurers. [example: Insurance would rather have me make two $100 Dr. visits for an issue than a more thorough one-time $150 visit]

    I will also beat the drum of personal responsibility to death if I have to. If people really saw what medical care cost, instead of the $10 copay, they’d use the resources more wisely and would likely take preventive care more seriously.

    Take a look at the CDHP (consumer directed health plan) system and tell me what you think.

  36. 3034

    We need The Democrat trail lawyers to put all the doctors, hospitals, and drug firms out of business. Note that John Edwards made his living sueing health care providers. Too bad every doctor didn’t walk away when John Edward’s wife had breast cancer. They had a great opportunity to tell Democrat Edwards to get a trail lawyer to provide care. [hehe] [Edwards walked into Walter Reed or Bethesda and the doctors MUST provide care]

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Join me for some hoppy ale and hopped up conversation.

No special guests are scheduled for tonight, but it wouldn’t surprise me if a couple of candidates dropped by for a round or two.

Comments

  1. 3035

    So i am curious, Ron Simms, one of your previous drinking liberally buddies, appeared to have been called on cronyism with the Southwest Airlines/Boeing Field negotiation.

    Pretty intersting timing on this, huh?

    David Irons calls him on being a shady character, the story hits the press and suddenly, Ronnie pulls his support.

    call conservatives what you want, but at least when someone buys one of them, they stick with the original deal.

  2. 3036

    Hey Goldy,

    What do you guys think of term limits for US representatives and senators? I think it would be good for the country to have a little more diversity in the House and Senate.

  3. 3037

    How many blacks will be there? Drinking while blacks in New Orleans have nothing? Driving and burning gas? Hmmmmmm……..

  4. 3038

    Lib –

    “…What do you guys think of term limits for US representatives and senators…”

    Goldy isn’t the person to ask. Ask George Nethercut.

  5. 3039

    As I recall, term limits for federal office are unconstitutional. Except, of course, for president … an amendment was written to do that.

    House and Senate diversity could be easily achieved by defeating a whole bunch of those all-in-lockstep wingnuts currently running the US into the ground.

  7. 3041

    N in Seatle @ 4:

    Yep, you’re right: we’d have to amend the constitution to have term limits. It might be nice to see other folks get elected rather than the same old bunch of politicians.

  8. 3042

    Term limits are great from my perspective; nothing like having a pliable newbie to flamboozle! Experienced legislators that know their stuff give me the heebie jeebies.

  11. 3045

    N in Seattle @ 9:

    Yeah, I kinda like the Constituttion. I especially like the first 10 Amendments, particularly as they relate to individual rights.

    I also believe in individual responsibility, too, and I think Thomas Jefferson would agree with me about being responsible for one’s actions. I think Jefferson was the first Libertarian.

  12. 3046

    prr@1–
    Don Ron Sims King is about as clever and unobvious as the perverbial elephant in the living room!!!
    To go from wowing the LEFTIST PINHEAD DL crowd with his strong support and then pulling it when his supporters and drinking buddies start squawking shows us Sims loves his job…not standing up for his beliefs.
    Did I tell you:
    If Sims Wins====Logan keeps his job.
    If Sims Loses===Logan gets fired.
    If Irons wins===Logan gets fired.
    Need to keep remiding y’all of that because between the Erection Dept., SWA debacle and Critical Areas Ordinance….Sims has a lot of negatives. Sims may think his announcement today eliminates a negative….but it doesn’t..it actually creates another.
    DON RON SIMS KING IS A FLIPFLOPPER!!! He came out for SWA before he came out against SWA. Perhaps after Sims awoke from his DL hangover after drinking cheap HORSEPISS Wine, his alleged brain shifted into another gear???
    I just love seeig Sims on the defensive. Hopefully Irons will keep Sims on the defensive the entire campaign!!!

  13. 3047

    Lib @ 10 Absolutely! What we need is a Bill of Responsibilities. For instance:

    Article 2 of the Bill of Rights: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

    Article 2 of the Bill of Responsiblities: All persons who keep and bear arms are responsible for the use of those arms, and for keeping them safe from misuse by criminals, and from children.

    Any other ideas of what could be included?

  14. 3048

    Re the Bill of Rights:

    Yeah, I’m kinda partial to them myself. That’s why I’m a card-carrying member. Too bad the current feederal administration seems to think that, and certainly does act as if, the BoR contains just half of one amendment.

    Jefferson certainly had some sharp critiques of government, at least when he wasn’t running one. I don’t know that I’d go so far as to say “libertarian” without adding “civil” in front of it, but TJ is notorious for having at various times advocated policies and ideas supportable by just about anyone. Just like the Bible, you can pick out pieces of Jefferson to bolster every position on every issue.

  15. 3049

    N in Seattle-4 ‘..defeating a whole bunch of those all-in-lockstep wingnuts ..’

    Hello….that finally happened in 1994.

  17. 3051

    The are religous zealots out there who lay awake at night worrying that someone is actually having a beer and enjoying life for a while. There are left wing nut cases out there whose goal is to save the world using everyone’s resources to do so.

    So, for everone drinking ale tonight with Goldy, drink heartily and forget about all this political crap for a while!

  20. 3054

    Reply to 6

    After 5 years of government run by incompetent amateurs, I’d like to have the career politicians back.

  21. 3055

    @17

    Where were you when WSDOT put out the bids? Surely you could have sold the taxpayers those signs for less than $3000 apiece and still made a profit? Do you even know the material specifications for those signs? Betcha ya don’t.

    If only WSDOT had hired a Republican contractor to do it, betcha the taxpayers could’ve got those signs for $25,000 apiece.

  22. 3056

    Roger Rabbit appears at DL extremely rarely, and never announces his appearances in advance due to traffic problems caused by the crush of admiring fans, papparazzi, and process servers.

  23. 3057

    No more Strom Thurmonds! No more Robert Byrds!

    Throw the bums out! They’re ALL corrupt, and they’re ALL incompetent!

    But that’s just my opinion…

  24. 3058

    I hope ya’ll can cover the Greg Nickel’s campaign violations..

    Corruption in Seattle….the Collucios, Rosellini, Pageler/Wills, now Nickels.

  25. 3059

    22

    Wrongagain, I’d rather have our corrupt politicians than your corrupt politicians — they’re a damn sight cheaper for us taxpayers.

  26. 3060

    prr @1,

    I just posted on the SWA deal gone bust, and you can read my analysis there. Hatley was hired primarily to lobby the council, not the executive, and Sims knew the proposal was most likely dead going into the editorial board meeting.

    So insinuate away if it makes you feel better, but the Hatley amounts to a big pile of nothing.

  27. 3061

    Libertarian @2,

    Like George Nethercutt, I oppose term limits. Unlike Nethercutt, I’m being honest about it.

    I think the founding fathers were wise in not instituting term limits.

  28. 3062

    I repeat my weekly plea… All you HAs please set an example for us knuckle draggers and ride a metro bus to DL tonight.

    It will show the oil company’s who’s boss.

    It will slow down global warming.

    It will reduce traffic.

    You can drink all you want and not worry about a DUI

    It will give you the opportunity to interact with others that you might not normally get a chance to meet.

    Let me know how it goes.

  29. 3063

    28. Mark, How can these “limo libs” drink when blacks in New Orleans have nothing? Do Democrats only need blacks for their votes? Are black Democrat “vote slaves”?

  31. 3065

    How can you Democrats drink when we finally found the cause for earthquakes and hurricanes!! Another “progressive” has found the evil Bush responsible!!! Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez believes natural disasters around the globe are rooted in capitalism.

    As reported by Agence France-Presse, Chavez, in a radio and TV interview, said the recent earthquakes in Pakistan, India and Afghanistan, and the mudslides in Mexico and Guatemala were nature’s answer to a “world global capitalist model” that has left the world “dangerously off balance.” [Democrats: progressive idiots!]

  32. 3066

    It’ll be a cold day in Hades before either MTR or Wrong Again ever have the cojones to show up for DL — whether by plane, train, automobile, or sitting on a horse’s rump.

  33. 3067

    25

    Well that and you need someone to keep your black base in line. Dont want dem wondering too far from da plantation ya na.

  34. 3068

    Hey DOOFUS,

    Google Dr. Michael Aquino. You’ll love him. He’s a staunch Republican and people like him are a very supportive part of your base.

  35. 3069

    What has Ron Sims done for the hood lately?
    OH, YA! He’s running a train right thru it.
    It’s time for Ronny to go.

    Maybe Gary Locke can get him a job as a paralegal. oh, better yet, maybe crissy can create a new dept for Ronny, WA State Dept of blackberry removal. permit office open 2nd Wednesday of the month only.
    what a joke they all are.

  36. 3070

    I have been to the Montlake Ale House several months ago with several friends to observe you LEFTIST PINHEADS. It wasn’t a very big turnout…but you appeared to all be having a good time with your blood pressuring boiling and angry venom spewing about Bush….growing the more you drank!
    Would I go back again?? Probably not. I have other things more exciting to do like play Cribbage or practice putting on the carpet.
    But it was interesting…most of you LEFTIST PINHEADS had at least some human features.
    By the way, who was the asshole with the wirerim glasses?
    Remember LEFTIST PINHEADS….”you aren’t paranoid when we are really out to get you!”

  37. 3071

    Attention:
    Stefan @ SP uncovered a ballot that says it is a GREEN CARD Voter.
    What in the hell is that??

    “Green Card refers to the official card issued by the US government to lawful permanent residents (immigrants) as evidence of their authorization to live and work in the United States. It is officially called Form I-551, the Permanent Resident Card (formerly known as the Alien Registration Receipt Card). The Green Card represents security to its holder. It instantly communicates to law enforcement officials and US employers the right to permanently live and work in the United States.”
    How does a Green Card qualify someone for the Citizen Status required to vote???
    Inquiring minds would like to know!!
    It happened in KingCo, so I’m sure there is a logical excuse…..err…logical reason.

  38. 3072

    re 11: How about corporate officers who work for “limited liability” corporations? Should they take personal responsibility for the damaging actions they create or should we continue the fairy tale fiction that only the “personhood” of the corporation is responsible? What a weak dodge of personal responsibility that is! Maybe that’s the only change we need with corporations. Make corporate officers “personally responsible” for their corporate actions.

  39. 3073

    re 12: Mr. Cynical is part of the lockstep PRAYER BREAKFAST MAFIA that has this country in such dire straits. He doesn’t thik, he just reacts, while viewing all life through his PRAYER BREAKFAST MAFIA twisted lenses and vision narrowing blinders.

  40. 3074

    angry venom spewing about Bush

    What’s there to like? He’s doing to this country economically what LBJ did the difference being is that we still had a manufacturing base back then to keep us suspended above a black hole.

  41. 3075

    re 28: Electric street cars would show the oil companies whose boss— except GM bought them all up in the 1920’s and substituted gas burning buses that no one wants to ride in and the whole misbegotten wealth scheme has culminated in the mess we’re in today. When money talks, greedheads listen.

  42. 3076

    Hey kids — it’s time to play your favorite game, “Sucky Politics!”

    As many of you know, Stefan Sharansky, who runs the Sucky Politics blog, thinks Roger Rabbit is Dean Logan blogging on a King County computer. Stefan, as always, is full of shit! I’m not Dean Logan, nor am I posting on HA with a government-owned computer. But it’s useless to try to reason with Stefan. He’s impervious to all known facts. So I play along with the gag.

    Since I’m Dean Logan, and Stefan is a King County poll worker, I’m Stefan’s supervisor. And believe me, this lazy and insubordinate shithead needs a LOT of supervising!!

    Take, for example, Stefan’s silly post quoted by Mr. Cynical @34 above regarding a so-called “Green Card Voter.” First of all, why is Stefan still beating on the dead horse of the Nov. 2004 election? This was litigated at an expense of $4 million, with Rossi represented by the finest D.C. and Seattle corporate lawyers money can buy, and the net result was their handpicked Republican judge in their handpicked Republican county deducted 4 fraudulent votes from Rossi’s total, increasing Gregoire’s victory margin from 129 to 133. AND ROSSI DIDN’T EVEN APPEAL! Many intelligent and reasonable people would conclude that at this point all the issues and debating points over that election have been laid to rest, and to keep beating on it is evidence of MENTAL ILLNESS but what the fuck do you expect from an idiot who can’t even spell his own name. (The correct spelling is “Sharansky” but he spells it “Sharkansky” which leads me wonder if he’s a fugitive from justice in some jurisdiction or other.)

    Hey idiots — both of you — meaning Stefan and Cynical — that was a fucking PROVISIONAL VOTE! Anybody is entitled to cast a provisonal ballot — that’s what federal and state law requires! Then it’s up to elections officials — not partisan pollworkers — to determine whether the voter is qualified to vote and the vote should be counted. We hire professionals, not two-day-a-year temps with only 3 hours of training, to make such decisions.

    But that’s not good enough for the Idiot Twins, nosireebob! Stefan says it’s “just plain dumb” that Dean’s — ahem, my — pollworker training teachers pollworkers not to deny anyone the right to vote. He says, “You are justified in denying the opportunity to vote to someone who volunteers to you that they don’t have the right to vote. Like when they show you an identification card that proves they are not a United States citizen.”

    WRONG!!! May I remind you, Stefan, that your job is to follow the instructions and procedures given to you as a pollworker, NOT tell the boss how to do HIS job!!! If you’re going to start breaking laws and disregarding instructions, then King County Elections doesn’t need your services. We need pollworkers, but we DON’T need insubordinate pollworkers!!! Listen up, Stefan. Either get with the program, or hit the road!!!

    I really owe you two idiots no explanation, but so you won’t mislead the public (such of it as is stupid enough to read your sucky blog), using a green card for ID is NOT proof the person is unqualified to vote. How do you know this voter didn’t become a naturalized citizen prior to the election? State election rules allow government-issued ID to be used as ID for voting purposes, and a Green Card is a government-issued ID. Did the pollworker who wrote that comment investigate (or even bother to ask) whether the voter is a citizen entitled to vote? Betcha dollars for donuts s/he didn’t — s/he just ASSUMED the voter was a non-citizen. Do you know what happens when you ASSUME things? You make an ASS of U and ME, that’s what!!! This is why King County hired Dean — ahem, me — to run elections, not you Stefan! Because you’re too fucking stupid to spell your own name correctly, let alone run elections!!!

    Just follow the goddam instructions and leave the hard decisions for the professionals. Or seek employment somewhere else.

  43. 3077

    Stefan not only wants to tell Logan — er, me — how to do his — um, my — job but also aims to tell Judge Michael Spearman how to do HIS job even though Stefan doesn’t know a fucking thing about criminal law and procedure! Stefan is Washington’s No. 2 dilettante blowhard, after the inimitable Tim Eyman, and is trying harder because he wants to be Washington’s No. 1 dilletante blowhard.

  45. 3079

    Mark The Redneck-39 ‘Hint: It doesn’t come from the wires.’

    Shhh. You are giving away the secrets. Now all will have to experience the joy in watching the lib celebrities driving their electric cars in CA, while their power is generated using old coal-fired plants in the mid-west. They are effectively dumping more CO2 into the atmosphere than a new gas-powered SUV.

  46. 3080

    Roger
    a) earring man was no republican
    b) Again, why would you show a green card if you were a citizen?
    c) How come the elections folks have a lower standard for ID than my bank, the border crossing, the bar i go to, best buy when they wanna make sure my visa card is mine…

    You guys are girly men on this; lets require your Voter ID card, and if you don’t have it, then only passport, or valid drivers license (and my fear is the drivers thing might still let the aliens through)

  47. 3081

    yearight – a solar wave is hitting CA and will spread to the rest of the desert southwest. The desert southwest will be a solar Saudi Arabia. This will help free up the northwest’s hydro.

    Wind in CO is cheaper than natural-gas fired ccgt and increasingly competitive against increasingly price-volatile coal. If you ask to be supplied with wind power in CO – you get a cheaper bill.

  48. 3082

    Rog@42–
    Calm down BunMan! If you stick your ears too far over the edge you are going to either fall off…..or get that horrible case of recurring, unsightly jock itch that plagues you.
    Sure the Green Card Dude voted a Provisional Ballot….but the envelope was empty meaning the ballot was counted.
    Can you find anything Rog that permits Green Card holders to vote?? That is the issue.
    All your hollering and squealing isn’t going to mask the fundamental question. Who is this guy and why was his ballot counted. If there is a legitimate reason, like you Rog, I’M ALL EARS!

  49. 3083

    A great drinking subject!! Maxine Waters will be a movie star!! Famed US filmmaker Spike Lee is to produce and direct a new documentary about the deadly aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in flood-stricken New Orleans, the entertainment industry press announced overnight. /break/ is to make When the Levee Broke for the US HBO cable television channel, the network told Daily Variety.

  50. 3084

    Headless Lucy writes:re 28: Electric street cars would show the oil companies whose boss— except GM bought them all up in the 1920’s and substituted gas burning buses that no one wants to ride in and the whole misbegotten wealth scheme has culminated in the mess we’re in today. When money talks, greedheads listen.

    Comment by headless lucy — 10/12/05 @ 7:59 am
    [Er…….Headless Lucy, how do we produce the power to run the street cars? [nuclear? Fossil Fuels? Your hot air?]

  52. 3086

    45.Yearight…..My respects. Headless Lucy is a typical “govment” Democrat loon nutcase. I call her Maxine Waters.

  53. 3087

    @46

    Ladies and gentlemen, Wrongagain now weighs in with the Two Idiots, to entertain us with their Three Stooges Act!! To wit:

    “why would you show a green card if you were a citizen”

    Because you don’t have a driver’s license?
    Because you don’t have any other ID?
    Because you feel like it?

    Who knows? Who cares?

  54. 3088

    @48

    Can you find something that says Green Card holders can’t vote?

    You know why I’m itching? Because you showed up incognito at DL and gave me your fucking fleas!!!

  55. 3089

    Roger Rabbit-42 ‘Did the pollworker who wrote that comment investigate (or even bother to ask) whether the voter is a citizen entitled to vote? Betcha dollars for donuts s/he didn’t – s/he just ASSUMED the voter was a non-citizen.’

    Wasn’t the vote counted? So, despite no reasonably way to assume the voter is a citizen, count the vote anyway?

  56. 3090

    Roger Rabbit-49 ‘Who knows? Who cares?’

    ..if the voter is actually a citizen? Plenty of other voters, that’s who.

  57. 3091

    Solution: Let’s work together to make voter fraud a capital offense. [Can you see the Upper East Side New Yawkers who voted GORE 04 in NY as well as FL hanging from a tree? I figure killing a few thousand Democrat cheaters might solve the illegal voting problem quickly.]

  58. 3092

    @55

    How the hell do you know whether the vote was counted?
    If it was counted, how the hell do you know whether King County had proof of the voter’s citizenship?

    The point is, flashing a Green Card at a poll worker to get a provisional ballot doesn’t prove a thing. Except it proves you don’t know a fucking thing about the provisional voting rules.

  59. 3093

    @56

    You miss the point entirely. This is the same Stefan Sharansky who claimed massive voting fraud occurred in the Nov. 2004 election. After spending $2 million on lawyers and two weeks in trial the only thing his GOP buddies could prove is that 4 of Dino Rossi’s votes were invalid.

  62. 3096

    Roger

    Ever heard the phrase “whistling past the graveyard”? If the Seattle press publicizes Stefan’s findings and digs deeper the Democratic hold on this state will be closer to its end.

  63. 3097

    [Black Democrats do such a great job of “govning” that they all got bonus checks!!] Goldy will drink to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    The D.C. government employees tasked with providing care to the city’s poor have taken home nearly half of the more than $1 million in bonus money awarded by the District during the first half of fiscal 2005. Nearly 400 employees in the D.C. Department of Human Services (DHS) received approximately $479,000 in extra money in their paychecks from Oct. 1, 2004, to March 31, 2005, according to D.C. Office of Personnel records.

  64. 3098

    Roger Rabbit-58 ‘How the hell do you know whether the vote was counted?
    If it was counted, how the hell do you know whether King County had proof of the voter’s citizenship?’

    Your replies show the basic flaw in the election system. There is so much benefit of the doubt given, and it is so very difficult to determine legal voting status that it is impossible to know how much fraud there is.

    I am not sure how another voter verifies the citizenship of another. Do you?

    Could you imagine how well the IRS system would work using a true honor system? If people can cheat many will.

  65. 3099

    Can you imagine if the same screen was used by IRS as by KCRE?
    KCRE? vote if you tell us you are legit
    IRS? taxes you pay are sufficient, if you say they are…

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

I’ll be there tonight, looking for some hoppy beer and some hopped up conversation. So be there, or be… uh… elsewhere.

Comments

  1. 3100

    Moonbats – As I’ve said before, please be sure to ride Metro to DL tonight. Especially now, it would be almost unthinkable to burn gasoline.

  2. 3101

    Hey Wabbit – Didja see the invisible hand today? Isn’t that amazing? Oil price down 4 bucks to 66 on news of oil and gas being released from reserves.

    And you didn’t hafta lift a paw.

    That whole supply/demand/price thing. It’s a fucking miracle…

  3. 3102

    MTR @2,

    How the FUCK is that the invisible hand? The federal government buys up a large reserve of oil, with our tax dollars, and then releases it to the market when prices are high to force the price down… and that’s the invisible hand?

    Sheesh! That’s not the invisible hand… that’s central planning.

    I’m not saying it’s a bad thing, I’m just saying that it’s not the invisible hand. This is government manipulating markets. Invisible hand… my ass!

  4. 3103

    Lefties; i’d almost show up if you could give me a single bus that would get me from say Factoria to your watering hole. Gotchas are a) have to have a seat i can sit in, b) I won’t make 5 transfers, c) bus have to leave within 2 min of scheduled departure time

    Makes it easy not to attend..

  6. 3105

    I’m going for the first time to DL tonight. What’s it like? Is it useful for a newbie who doesn’t know anyone there?

  7. 3106

    Goldy @ 3

    ‘Sheesh! That’s not the invisible hand… that’s central planning.’

    We need to know more about both supply and demand to judge. I know many people who stayed home for the holiday due to gas prices.

  8. 3107

    RO @ 4

    Why would you want to come to a DL event? Besides, I would be more concerned with moving out of that shithole Factoria than with taking the bus to Liberalfest ’05

  9. 3108

    t @ 6

    You should go, it rocks, it’s the fucking bomb

  11. 3110

    clueless, still

    Was a comment about the crappy transit system you communists insist on making me pay for. Imagine how bad Southwest air would be if you all made that taxpayer owned…

  12. 3111

    Communists? Well come to Ale House and we’ll have an economics discussion. Here’s your intinerary since you can’t seem to manage it on your own. 2 buses and you’ll get there 20 minutes early to watch a little of the ball game.

    Itinerary #1

    Walk 0.4 mile N from FACTORIA SQUARE MALL to
    Depart I-90 Ramp & RICHARDS ROAD At 06:49 PM On Route ST 554 Seattle Express
    Arrive 4th Ave & Union St At 07:08 PM
    Transfer to
    Depart Pike St & 4th Ave At 07:16 PM On Route MT 43 University District
    Arrive 24th Ave E & E McGraw St At 07:38 PM

    Here’s the return trip:

    Itinerary #1

    Walk 0.3 mile N from 2307 24TH AVE E to
    Depart Montlake Blvd E & EB SR-520 ON RAMP At 10:27 PM On Route MT 271 Issaquah
    Arrive Bellevue TC AcRd & 108 AV NE BTC 2 At 10:43 PM
    Transfer to
    Depart Bellevue TC AcRd & 108 AV NE BTC 3 At 11:03 PM On Route MT 240 South Renton Park and Ride
    Arrive Factoria Blvd SE & SE 38th St At 11:18 PM
    Walk S to FACTORIA SQUARE MALL

  13. 3112

    Of course you can skip everything and move to Texas to join Marks.

    That’s a red state paradise for you – plenty of executions and no income tax even.

  15. 3114

    Clueless @ 13

    ‘..plenty of executions and no income tax even.’

    Not to mention open arms for 250,000 Katrina victims. How many for WA? 2000.

  16. 3115

    @4

    We do our best to accomodate everyone — big tent theory — but I just don’t think Metro has a bus with seats wide enough for your fat ass. Maybe we could strap you to the bicycle rack on the front bumper.

  18. 3117

    Mrs. Rabbit says, “What about the tree?” I told her we can sacrifice 1 tree for a good cause.

  19. 3118

    @7

    Yeah, the streets were empty this weekend. Nothing like $3 gas to encourage conservation. I’ll bet the streets are REALLY empty in Atlanta, where gas sells for $5-$6.

  20. 3119

    Roger Rabbit attends DL very infrequently and never announces his appearances in advance due to traffic and security problems caused by the crush of papparazzi and admiring fans.

  22. 3121

    Clueless and Roger

    Thanks for confirming why Metro is worthless. To get to Jilly’s (i recall the good old days) I gotta walk almost 1/2 a mile in a parking lot, the then ride a bus for 50 minutes. Then getting home, i gotta walk back up to 520 (not fun if it were raining) for another 50 minute ride (with fun 20 minutes in some transit cetner in bellevue.

    If I knew the buses left on time, i might expose myself to the commensurate personal risk of being at a bus stop at 10:30 at night, but of course that 10:27pm bus might leave then, or might be 10 or more min late.

    Even if I had an office right at Factoria, I think i’d still drive…isn’t that logical?

  23. 3122

    I expect to be there late, if at all. Meeting of unknown duration begins at 7pm. OTOH, perhaps I can drag some of the meeting attendees along with me.

  26. 3125

    Roger, if riding a bus will turn me into you, that’s just another reason to keep sending my petrodollars to the sheiks..

  27. 3126

    Goldy and Rabbit…….driving their Volvos [only black Democrats ride the bus]. Gasoline: 3 bucks a gallon. Bottled French Evian: 3 bucks a quart. Dinner and drinks: 75 dollars a person Democrat tip: 3% Finding someone else [other people’s money] to pay the tab: PRICELESS!!

  28. 3127

    Oh Goldy, How many “people of New Orleans” color will be dining with you tonight? [hehe]

  29. 3128

    Will Teddy “Oldsmobile” [D-Chevas] be attending, or is he still helping to bus New Orleans homeless to their new permanent home in Cape Cod?

  30. 3129

    Righton Sponsors Terrorists @26

    And I’m sure you know what the sheikhs do with your money, you America-hating fascist!

  31. 3130

    I heard that when the rabbit dies they are going to bury him with his ass sticking out of the ground so they can use him as a bike rack

  32. 3131

    Now that Stefan has “outed” me as Dean Logan blogging on a King County computer,* it’s time to check up on him again. You see, Stefan signed up to be a poll worker — which makes me, Dean Logan, director of King County elections, his supervisor.

    (* Disclaimer — I’m not Dean Logan, but I decline to argue the point with Stefan, who is never one to worry about factual accuracy.)

    “Uh-oh, what have we here, Stefan says “Dean Logan is in violation of the Public Disclosure Act again, this time stonewalling King County GOP Chairman Michael Young” and links to the following letter:

    “August 19, 2005
    Dear Director Logan,

    Enclosed is a copy of your response letter to me dated August 2, 2005. In this letter you stated it would take approximately 10 days to assemble Items 1-3 of my request and at that time you would be contacting me to arrange for payment before the copying phase could begin.

    Since it has been fifteen days since your letter was written and I have not received any notification, I am writing again to ask for the date when the copying of my request will begin.

    Thank you for your prompt response to this matter.

    Sincerely,
    Michael Young
    Chairman”

    Hey Stefan — he has to pay first, dummy! Also, RCW 42.17.350 only requires KCRE to give him “a reasonable estimate” of how much time the agency needs “to assemble the information requested” or otherwise respond to the request. An “estimate” is an approximation not a firm deadline, stupid!

    It’s hard to believe Stefan is really this ignorant of the law. Frankly, I think he’s harassing Dean Logan. I wonder if he’s searching Logan’s garbage can looking for empty wine bottles and maybe even stalking him, too. With this dork, anything might be possible.

  33. 3132

    Don’t hold your breath. The Rabbit doesn’t die easy, and will go down shooting with his boot on.

  34. 3133

    @ 26

    Who in turn sends them to OBL. Thanks, wrong one.

    Re: the bus. You don’t have to start at the mall. For some reason when I think Factoria, I think the mall.

  35. 3134

    clueless; i picked the mall to make it easier, and also to not type my home address. Getting there from home or office is even more complicated.

  37. 3136

    Roger; you mean a nice map with clear bus schedules like i used in Paris, or these crappy ones you get here that are written in ancient aramaic?

  39. 3138

    Righton @ 4

    Quit your bitching. I gave you an opportunity to choose a place for us Drinking Liberally folks to go for one week, and you told us that your wife won’t let you out of the house.

    Here’s the comment to refresh your memory.

    I gotta wimp out and fail on the bar thing. I had a political jab; which was to say you guys are live in Fremont and frequent fun, slightly shabby, hip bars and not “common man” bars. but I cannot think of a closeby bar that would resemble common man? lake city way (yipes), 99 north of greenlake? double yipes. Anywhere in Kent or Burien or Monroe i guess would do.

    More politically, thought you’d wanna go to some strip mall bar in Issaquah or Sammamish (nothing scary except you might get lost or run out of gas) and hang w/ the red state folks.

    Thanks for the invite. My hall pass got revoked a while back; i drink my six pack 1 beer a night at home.

    Jackass.

  40. 3139

    t@6—
    You should be aware of the Initiation Process.
    All the LEFTIST PINHEAD regulars get to butt-fuck the newbies like you in the Men’s Room. Bring your own K-Y Jelly dude!

  43. 3142

    @35

    Oh so that’s it! The fucker got himself grounded! I wonder how that happened?? Chasing skirts, maybe? ‘Fess up now, Righton, you whoring fascist pig.

  45. 3144

    Whoa, almost worth going if you guys stay this witty

    a) no such thing as a Park and Ride direct to Montlake ale house or whatever its now called
    b) thehim; yeah i know i’m welcome and you guys are only jerks on the blogs, but i have better things to do (i don’t even have time for friends, let alone newly found friends/communists
    c)I don’t need a map, I need a nice bus schedule. You should take a research trip to Paris and see how easy it is. You could piss on the street, eat good food, and see a better grade of woman than in Wallingford.

  46. 3145

    Goldy @ 3 – It wasn’t just Murka’s SPR. Many countries in Europe and Asian released some of their reserves. If I remember correctly, I think Kuwait also released some gasoline. The market conditions were right for the central planners to release some supply in response to the demand. That’s still the invisible hand of free market economics at work… doesn’t have to be new wells and new refineries to bring more product to market in the short term.

  47. 3146

    MTR; good luck on educating them

    by the way …you libs will be getting subsidized beer tonight, right? Grain is cheaper to the yuppie brewer cuz of USDA subsidies? I”m paying for your drinking…

  48. 3147

    43 – Bush signed a pretty odious Farm Bill to secure red state support for his re-election. Don’t forget the steel tarrifs for WV – quite a believer in free markets there, right MTR?

  49. 3148

    Goldy @ 3 (more)… and think about it… gummint made PROFIT on sale of oil from SPR. They dollar cost averaged into oil market and sold at a high. That’s free market econ. Beautiful eh? The invisible hand is there working and you moonbats don’t hafta do anything. Wabbit can sleep. Heath doesn’t have to coerce people to work 4 days or carpool. The rest of you don’t have to worry. Free markets work every time before you guys can even get organized. Wow….

  50. 3149

    Geeesh…. I was just wishing I could come have a beer. Too far to drive from the (far) east side and dang long ride home.

    Mark TR…. prozac? anything to settle you down would be good. Honestly! You are far to angry (and not the only one).

  51. 3150

    @22

    Whose fault is it that you live on the east side? Gonna blame that on the mayor of New Orleans too?

  52. 3151

    @41

    Quit making excuses and just drive your goddam car to Montlake. That’s what the car is for.

  53. 3152

    @42

    Oh, so now Mr. Mark “Adam Smith” Redneck admits the “invisible hand” of the “free” market sits on gasoline until The Hand can sell it for $3 a gallon? Just what we thought all along the fascist oil capitalists were doing …

  54. 3153

    @43

    “I”m paying for your drinking…”

    If I knew you were paying, I’d drink the place dry.

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  56. 3155

    NoWonder @ 5

    Following our earlier survey on Sheehan, many of her supporters e-mailed to suggest that there must be something wrong with the way we asked the question. For both surveys, the question wording was very straightforward–“Do you have a favorable or an unfavorable opinion of Cindy Sheehan.” The question before it was “How closely have you followed news stories about Cindy Sheehan, the woman who was protesting the war along the road to President Bush’s ranch?”

    “Supporters” are obviously of the jock-strap variety.

  57. 3156

    Righton – So all told you’d end up spending about 3 hours door to door to get from eastside to DL. You could drive it in a nice luxury SUV in maybe 40 minutes? Why the fuck would anybody ride a goddam bus unless their time is worthless. Maybe that splains it…

  58. 3157

    Rabbit @ 49 – You got it. Just like buying calls. Stabilizes the market, and you didn’t hafta come out of your hutch or lift a paw.

  59. 3158

    Katrina Misses New Orleans, Heavily Damages Mississippi
    August 30, 3005: The Times lied, thousands died…

  60. 3159

    Why the fuck would anybody ride a goddam bus unless their time is worthless.

    Uh, Mark. I sold my car two years ago, and I still have time to work a full time job, maintain a blog, fix up my house, run a fantasy football league in the fall, make javascript games and, oh, I just got married as well. The reason I sold my car is because I was fed up with sitting in traffic behind all the dumbfucks in this state who never learned how to drive. It’s much better to sit on a bus because you can read (something non-rednecks do, you should try it), write up a post, or get some other work done.

  61. 3160

    b) thehim; yeah i know i’m welcome and you guys are only jerks on the blogs, but i have better things to do (i don’t even have time for friends, let alone newly found friends/communists

    No, I’m a jerk in person too. And I don’t think we’ve had a communist show up since that old Russian guy who just downed vodka and pounded his fist on the table until he passed out. You’d be the second. Good luck with getting your wife to let you out of the house.

  62. 3161

    You could drive it in a nice luxury SUV in maybe 40 minutes? Why the fuck would anybody ride a goddam bus unless their time is worthless.

    Mark, I sold my car over 2 years ago, and I still have time to work a full-time job, maintain a blog, fix up a house, make javascript games, run a fantasy football site in the fall, and I make it almost every Tuesday out to Drinking Liberally. Oh, and I just got married this summer too. The reason I sold my car is because I was fed up with being stuck in traffic behind all the clueless drivers around here. Riding the bus, I can read (it’s something that non-rednecks do), write up a post, or even get some work done. Time driving in traffic is wasted time. Time sitting on a bus in traffic doing other things is not.

  63. 3162

    You could drive it in a nice luxury SUV in maybe 40 minutes? Why the f*ck would anybody ride a goddam bus unless their time is worthless.

    Mark, I sold my car over 2 years ago, and I still have time to work a full-time job, maintain a blog, fix up a house, make games, run a fantasy football site in the fall, and I make it almost every Tuesday to Drinking Liberally. Oh, and I just got married this summer too. The reason I sold my car is because I was fed up with being stuck in traffic behind all the clueless drivers around here. Riding the bus, I can read (it’s something that non-r*dnecks do), write up a post, or even get some work done. Time driving in traffic is wasted time. Time sitting on a bus in traffic doing other things is not.

  64. 3163

    You could drive it in a nice luxury SUV in maybe 40 minutes? Why the f*ck would anybody ride a goddam bus unless their time is worthless.

  67. 3166

    and I still have time to work fulltime, maintain a blog, fix up a house, make games, run a f*nt*sy football site in the fall, and I make it almost every Tuesday to Drinking Liberally. Oh, and I just got married this summer too. The reason I sold my car is because I was fed up with being stuck in traffic behind all the clueless drivers around here. Riding the bus, I can read (it’s something that non-rednecks do), write up a post, or even get some work done. Time driving in traffic is wasted time. Time sitting on a bus in traffic doing other things is not.

  69. 3168

    I can read (it’s something that non-rednecks do) -Comment by thehim— 9/6/05 @ 10:29 pm

    What a smarmy, snotty, elitist thing to say from a member of the class warfare pimps party.

    Really, I see how much you think of your fellow citizens, oh America lover.

    You do realize those fellow citizens you so easily denegrate and upon whom you look down your snotnose, ARE what makes America all that it is.

  72. 3171

    @54

    How much of the $2.89 a gallon I just paid for goes in your pocket, Mark? Even 1/1000th of 1 cent is too goddam much.

  73. 3172

    OK, it’s time to get serious here! You trolls + Stefan + anyone else asserting that Gregoire/Sims/Logan/Berendt/Toothfairy stole the election know NOTHING about stealing elections! Pay attention now, because you’re about to get an education from the GOP’s expert election stealers.

    The best way to steal elections is NOT by stuffing the ballot box, which is nearly impossible to do (unless you can get election officials to buy hackable electronic voting machines manufactured by your buddies) — but by keeping the other side from voting!

    “GOP Paying Legal Bills of Bush Official
    – By JOHN SOLOMON, Associated Press Writer
    Thursday, August 11, 2005

    “(08-11) 00:08 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) — … [T]he Republican Party has quietly paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to provide private defense lawyers for a former Bush campaign official charged with conspiring to keep Democrats from voting in New Hampshire.

    “James Tobin, the president’s 2004 campaign chairman for New England, is charged in New Hampshire federal court with four felonies accusing him of conspiring with a state GOP official and a GOP consultant in Virginia to jam Democratic and labor union get-out-the-vote phone banks in November 2002.

    “A telephone firm was paid to make repeated hang-up phone calls to overwhelm the phone banks in New Hampshire and prevent them from getting Democratic voters to the polls on Election Day 2002, prosecutors allege. Republican John Sununu won a close race that day to be New Hampshire’s newest senator.

    ” … A top New Hampshire Party official and a GOP consultant already have pleaded guilty and cooperated with prosecutors. …

    “‘The object of the conspiracy was to deprive inhabitants of New Hampshire and more particularly qualified voters … of their federally secured right to vote,’ states the latest indictment issued by a federal grand jury on May 18.

    “Since charges were first filed in December, the RNC has spent more than $722,000 to provide Tobin, who has pleaded innocent, a team of lawyers from the high-powered Washington law firm of Williams & Connolly. …

    “The Republican Party has repeatedly and pointedly disavowed any tactics aimed at keeping citizens from voting …. Earlier this week, RNC chairman Ken Mehlman, the former White House political director, reiterated a ‘zero-tolerance policy’ for any GOP official caught trying to block legitimate votes. ‘The position of the Republican National Committee is simple: We will not tolerate fraud; we will not tolerate intimidation; we will not tolerate suppression ….’

    “Paul Twomey, a volunteer lawyer for New Hampshire Democrats who are pursuing a separate lawsuit involving the phone scheme, said he was surprised the RNC was willing to pay Tobin’s legal bills and that it suggested more people may be involved.

    “‘… [N]ow that the RNC actually is bankrolling Mr. Tobin’s defense, coupled with the fact that it has refused some discovery in the civil case, really raises the questions of who are they protecting, how high does this go and who was in on this,’ Twomey said.

    “Federal prosecutors have secured testimony from the two convicted conspirators in the scheme directly implicating Tobin.

    “Charles McGee, the New Hampshire GOP official who pleaded guilty, told prosecutors he informed Tobin of the plan and asked for Tobin’s help in finding a vendor who could make the calls that would flood the phone banks.

    “Allen Raymond… told prosecutors Tobin called him in October 2002, explained the telephone plan and asked Raymond’s company to help McGee implement it. Raymond’s lawyer told the court that Tobin made the request for help in his official capacity as the top RNC official for New England and his client believed the RNC had sanctioned the activity.”

    (For complete story see http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.....=printable)

    The 2004 governor’s election was NOT stolen! Why? Because the lame-ass WSRP run by Chris Rants doesn’t know how to steal elections, that’s why! If it was, Rossi not Gregoire would be sitting in the Governor’s Mansion in Olympia. (But watch out in 2008; the RNC, no doubt fed up with the incompetence of the WSRP’s election stealers, probably will send their own operatives here next time.)

    The Washington Attorney General’s office WAS stolen — but not by the local GOP. Remember those illegal anonymous attack ads against the Democratic candidate? That was a Washington D.C.-based operation by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. There’ll probably be more of that in the 2006 Senate race. Wait and see.

  74. 3173

    Bored BunnyButt for Sale: Expert malcontent and agitator…(yes, I do believe he can be retro-fitted for use in that old useless Maytag, thanks for asking)
    $0.02/OBO No returns/no refunds, please be prepared to pay usury WA State sales tax (which may or may not be off set for the negative value you can claim)
    206-407-7877, that’s 206-HORSASS

  76. 3175

    Well, it’s that time again — i.e., time to supervise Stefan. Since Stefan has decided I’m Dean Logan* and signed up to be a poll worker, I’m Stefan’s supervisor. And Stefan needs a LOT of hands-on supervising, trust me on this.

    (* Disclaimer – I’m not Dean Logan, but it’s useless to argue this point with Stefan, who is impervious to real facts.)

  77. 3176

    Item #1 — Oh looky, Stefan gussied up his format with color photos! He must be desperate to stop his ratings plunge — down 70% this summer, and the only reason the remaining 3 guys still go there is because they’re blind and think they’re clicking on a Braille porn site. (to be continued)

  78. 3177

    Item #2 — Martin Ringhofer sure is ugly in that photo! I thought it was a dog, but the caption says its Martin Ringhofer. I’m not sure I believe this, but if that’s you, Martin, all I can say is some people age more gracefully than others. Oh well. (to be continued)

  79. 3178

    Item #3 is a complaint Stefan prefaces with the comment, “Want to understand the true nature of the liberal mindset? Read this post from ‘DemGurl’ at Democratic Underground.” Here is the post that offended Stefan, reproduced in full:

    “I had no idea how deeply my hate for that man ran. My lack of an interaction, with a * supporter is still haunting me a couple of hours later.

    ”I was on my home and was on the ramp getting off the highway. I saw a mini-van on the side of the road. There was a lady standing next to the van and in her arms she held her child. I can only assume her mini-van had broken down. I don’t know, perhaps with so many gad stations being out of gas, she had also run out. I slowed down and started to pull over to offer her a ride. At the very last second I noticed a “W” sticker on the back of her vehicle and I sped up and drove off.

    ”I feel really bad as a human being. That child is not responsible for their parent’s belief system. They are innocent and do not deserve to be out in the heat. (It is warm but not so bad that they would even break a sweat) I try not to punish people for what they believe.

    ”On the other hand, so many hateful thoughts went through my head. I wondered how a person could see what was going on in NO and still have one of those awful stickers on their car. How could they support an awful excuse for a human being that has let our country down and is letting Americans die after they have made it through the storm? How can someone be so blind and so stupid?

    ”I thought that if she loves * so much, maybe he would come along and help her the same way he is rescuing all of those poor people in the weather stricken part of our country. Let’s see what her hero can do for her.

    ”I never did go back. I was so upset with that sticker and with the fact that someone would support an idiot who is so clearly running our country into the ground.

    ”So why am I writing this? It is not to boast, I really feel bad about passing this child and not picking up their mother. Perhaps it is for a catharsis of sorts? That would be an educated guess. I suppose it is because I feel conflicted and I am writing this to try and sort through what I am feeling. There are two emotional sides, for me, on this incident and neither seems completely right or wrong to me. Even writing this, I am still not able to work through what happened. I feel like I am floating between right and wrong and am unable to grab either side.

    ”Thanks for listening.”

    Now isn’t that just like a Republican – intentionally running out of gas hoping to a passing Democrat will give her gas? And with her kid in the car! What do you say about people like that?

    F R E E L O A D E R

    Oh, by the way, thanks for posting that, Stefan. It’s a really cool post! :D

  80. 3179

    Item #4 — Stefan called Dean Logan a liar for saying “Washington State law very clearly allows for the forwarding of absentee ballots and requires that voters be advised of the legal qualifications for casting a ballot. King County’s absentee envelopes and ballot instructions do just that.”

    Stefan asserts, “Re-read my earlier post that discusses the issue, including the relevant sections of state law and administrative rules that I linked to.” Uh … Stefan … I did – several times. We must not be reading the same law or ballot envelope.

    I responded on Friday at post #201 in the “FEMA director Mike Brown, a ‘total fucking disaster'” thread by pointing out that RCW 29A.40.091 authorizes forwarding absentee ballots and the voter qualifications are in the Oath of Voter printed on the security envelope. Logan is right, you’re wrong. Dipshit.

  81. 3180

    Hey, I have an idea. Let’s get Ron Sims to fire Dean Logan. Then Stefan will have nothing to talk about, and his blog will collapse.

  82. 3181

    Item # 1 — I saved the best for last — FUCK YOU, STEFAN! What’s more, I’m gonna come over to your house* tonight and eat your garden! Thanks for the food, dipshit! Looting is fun and profitable when you do it to Republicans.

    * The stupid shit published his home address on his web site.

  83. 3182

    Well, I’m not gonna waste any more time tonight on pointing out the errors on the Brand X blog. That would take ALL night! I’m hopping over to Stefan’s for some free lettuce! I’m gonna shit on his lawn, too! You’ll find my bunny calling cards in the grass tomorrow, Stefan, but don’t worry it’s okay to step in it, my rabbit shit doesn’t mess up your shoes like sticky gooey smelly dog shit does. Thanks for the free food, sucker!

    The rest of you, see you guys again tomorrow. :D

  84. 3183

    Thehim – Thank you for taking the bus and staying out of my way. BTW, you said you don’t have a car, and you also got married. Is that the old John Kerry trick? HE doesn’t have an SUV, but she does? Come clean now, does your wife have a car?

    Yeah, thought so…lying piece of shit…

  85. 3184

    MarkTheFascistRedneck-

    I happen to know FOR A FACT that thehim and theher do not own an internal combustion vehicle.

    I also know that as the utter and complete failure of this incompetent and immoral administration becomes more widely known to the public your head will become larger and more inflamed and filled with pus until it explodes.

  86. 3185

    Roger Rabbit is personally trying to beef up the hits on SoundPolitics.com. Being curious I had to check it out to see what all the excitement is about.

    ‘Stefan asserts, “Re-read my earlier post…’

    Wabbit: ‘Uh … Stefan … I did – several times.’

    Are you saying that WAC 434-240-190 does not say:

    ‘Postal service endorsements to allow forwarding of the ballots, to receive from the post office the addresses to which ballots were forwarded, and the return of unforwardable ballots shall be used on any forwardable absentee ballots. If the information is not included, the envelope must clearly indicate that the ballot is not to be forwarded and that return postage is guaranteed.’

    or that the KC ballots comply?

  87. 3186

    #

    t@6—
    You should be aware of the Initiation Process.
    All the LEFTIST PINHEAD regulars get to butt-fuck the newbies like you in the Men’s Room. Bring your own K-Y Jelly dude!

    Comment by Mr. Cynical— 9/6/05 @ 5:14 pm

    Man, what’s with you Rethug closet cases and your obsession with anal sex?

    Come out, come out wherever you are – if Guckert can do it, so can you!

  88. 3187

    “What we saw in New Orleans was poor people demonstrating the very behavior that made them poor in the first place.” [Drink up on that!]

  89. 3188

    Mr. X—
    I consider my asshole an EXIT PORTAL….
    as opposed to backasswards LEFTIST PINHEADS like you who enjoy the ripping and tearing of trying to mould it into an ENTRANCE!

  91. 3190

    …btw, if I were gay, I wouldn’t fuck you with GW Bush’s pindick (in fact, I doubt I’d piss on you if you were on fire, either).

  93. 3192

    Busses, Busses Busses, We got used busses for sale! Slightly water logged but a little draining and wiping and they are just like new! We are selling them cheap! How do we keep that price so low? Volume, Volume, Volume!!!! So come on down today to downtown New Orleans, just 2 blocks from the Superdome or call 1-800-De Mayor, that’s 1-800-De Mayor and we will be seeing you soon! [Drink up, “progressives”!]

  95. 3194

    @86 (continued)

    No, I didn’t say that. Why do right wing dipshits always have to read things into what other people say that aren’t there in order to make their argument? Because they have no argument unless they make up shit, that’s why.

    I didn’t say anything about Stefan’s nitpicking over whether King County is using the correct postal endorsement.

    I said Stefan is full of shit for calling Logan a “liar” for stating, “Washington State law very clearly allows for the forwarding of absentee ballots and requires that voters be advised of the legal qualifications for casting a ballot. King County’s absentee envelopes and ballot instructions do just that.”

    Because Logan’s statement happens to be correct: Washington law DOES allowing forwarding absentee ballots, and the legal qualifications for voting ARE printed on the security envelope. I see NOTHING in Logan’s statement about the postal endorsement, so how the fuck could Logan be lying?

    What Stefan did was take a specific complaint — whether the correct postal endorsement is being used — and use it to generalize that King County’s whole absentee ballot forwarding procedure is illegal. I call that “lying” and “intellectual dishonesty.”

  96. 3195

    Mr. X@90—
    Is that as clever as you can be???
    REmember REX REX REX REX REX REX REX….
    Rectum==EXit
    REX REX REX REX REX
    Rectum=EXit
    REX REX……..

  97. 3196

    Maybe the reason Stefan’s traffic is plunging is because people have figured out he’s a liar and intellectually dishonest, therefore his blog is of no value. He probably hates America, too.

  98. 3197

    Irrelevent,

    Wow, you really DO think you’re clever, don’t you? That’s almost as delusional as believing Shrub is an honest competent public servant – but not quite.

  99. 3198

    Mr. X—
    Did I ever say Shrub is an honest competent public servant???
    Hell No!!!
    You aren’t paying attention Dumbass.
    Both Political Parties and their leaders are quite morally & intellectually bankrupt. They focus on POWER rather than getting things done.
    It’s just the R’s are a SMIDGEON more honest and effective. Plus the LEFTIST PINHEADS like yourself hijecked the Democratic Party. My best friends are Truman Democrats asshole. They are honest enough to hate fuckheads like you!!

  100. 3199

    Mr. X is now Mr. REX–
    R-ectum
    EX-it
    Keep repeating it….I’m sure you become confused quite frequently.

  101. 3200

    Irrelevent,

    I rest my case – I mean, really, you closet cases and your butt thing.

    Sophmoric, fascistic, and stupid is no way to go through life (though I would accept sophmoric and stupid).

Drinking Liberally

by — ,

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

I’ve promised friends I’d pick them up at the airport around 9 pm, so unless the flight comes in ahead of schedule (hah!) I’ll stop by early.

Comments

  4. 3204

    As I’ve already noted over at WA State Political Report, I’m going to Safeco tonight to watch the hated Yankees beat the M’s. So, no DL for me this week.

    To prr — I donated $100 to the Red Cross this morning, and I’ll surely contribute more soon. Let’s see you top that.

  5. 3205

    Goldy, will you steal the 42 inch Sony plasma TV that is behind the bar? [You know, kind of like your fellow “progressives” in New Orleans. In addition the New Orleans Foot Locker reports dozens of Michael Jordan basketball shoes somehow have been “liberated” by looters. Windie, what do you know about “Looters For Kerry”?

  6. 3206

    Aren’t you libs supposed to take Metro to/from the airport? I mean they have runs that go there, so who takes the bus?

    And then once Sound Transit sort of runs its line there, will you use it?

  7. 3207

    GOLDY
    If your friends were able to fly on Southwest Airline to Boeing Field, you would save fossil fuel, time & money.
    I agree with righton however….there are plenty of busses from the airport that would allow you to save fuel, time & money as well.
    Oh Goldy, I almost forgot. You could also save on pollution and do your fair share for saving the Earth. But then again, you obviously want all of us to sacrifice….but not you. That is the typical LENIN’s USEFUL IDIOT outlook on life. Do as I say….not as I do.

  8. 3208

    Hey Moonbats – I don’t think any of you lived up to the courage of your convictions last week when I asked you to ride Metro to DL. Please provide an example for us knuckle draggers by actually using the mass transit you want to inflict on the rest of us. Be sure to let us know how you like the guy with the green hair and 275 pound “mother of his children” all of whom are running around screaming.

    Also, please post how many “War Is Terror” bumper stickers are in the parking lot.

  9. 3209

    Hey redneck, as I said, I don’t have an ID, that means I don’t drive and take metro everywhere I go if I can’t walk. I can’t walk a lot of places because your damn stinky highway is running right through my right of way where I should be walking.

    Either get rid of your stinky highway or pay taxes for my bus. In either case, get your filthy hands out of my pocket. Or is your next step another undeclaired tax requiring everyone to own a car then requiring them to buy insurance from you?

    Hey cynical, go curl up and die.

  10. 3210

    Mark –

    I ride Metro and Sound Transit almost every day. They work great! People who want to take metro can take the 43 or 48 (among other routes) to go to the Montlake Ale Tavern.

    I can’t be there tonight, but ordinarily, I take the 43 from a stop 4 blocks from my house; it drops me off 1/2 block from DL.

    Your point, Mark?

    Heath

  11. 3211

    prr@3 –

    So don’t read what Goldy posts, but you post your replies here. What’s the value in you and your contribution? Just F-ing things up for your perceived enemies?

  12. 3212

    Bill uh… I DO pay for your bus. You’re welcome. WTF are you talking about with the ID thing and my hand in your pocket? You make no sense. And “insurance”? It’s OK to vomit out the talking points you were given, but fercrissakes, at least try to use them in some kind of coherent order.