Seattle’s very own Rep. Jim McDermott will be stopping by Drinking Liberally, which meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.
Damn. I’m still on the other coast. But I hope lots of you show up to down a few beers with my favorite congressman.
Heath spews:
Why does this post have a place for comments? Can’t we have some ‘announcement-only’ posts?
Mr. Cynical spews:
You have got to be shitting me!
Do they have any “free-range” beer at that joint??
How about TOFU Hors d’ouevres??
Guys like McDimwit aren’t exactly the kind I’d be boasting about.
Oh well, it’s a hot day and even LEFTIST PINHEADS deserve a cold beer.
I’ll bet anything McDimwit drinks and dashes sticking your sorry ass with the tab!
Naah, the other “star-struck” LEFTIST PINHEADS will all be fighting over who gets to buy him one.
My guess is there will be an officer in the parking lot ready & willing to administer a breathalyzer!!
McDimwit probably has a private chauffer for his little piece of shit Hybrid Car!!
Heath spews:
Other than opposing the war, what has McDermott done to peeve you?
Nevermind that your oh-so-awesome commander-in-chief deliberately lied about the reasons for going to war (during the State of the Union, no less). Then, when the truth was coming out, he had his cronies Rove and Libby try to scare Joe Wilson by endangering his wife.
Your side has a lot to be proud of. *Snort*
righton spews:
Can I make it to radio shack to get a tape recorder, for Tape it and deny it Jimmie?
Sheesh, McD even makes Patty look ok….
RonK, Seattle spews:
The drinkfest may also feature pre-disclosure of as-yet-unannounced coming attractions, and open discussion of how to make them rock and roll.
Mr. Cynical spews:
Perhaps Goldy will use tonite as his own personal stage for coming out of the closet! If Goldy comes walking in with Barney Fag….it wouldn’t surprise me.
Ask McDimwit to share some “politically incorrect” jokes, would you?
I’m sure some of your friends from the RIGHT will be there tonight Goldy.
I’ll bet McDimwit chickens out.
Jon spews:
Heath @ 1: “Why does this post have a place for comments?”
Uuuuhhhh…then why are you commenting?
Goldy: “But I hope lots of you show up to down a few beers with my favorite congressman.”
Oh, Goldy, do say this because you really feel this way or just to get a rise out of Cynical? You’re smart, even you can see (and read) that McDermott’s fellow Democrats think he’s (at best) a gadfly.
Jon spews:
Cynical: For a guy that keeps claiming you don’t care about Goldy’s sexual preference, you sure seem to talk about it a lot.
NoWonder spews:
Take care with your cell phone conversations, lest they end up recorded and mysteriously appear at the NY Times.
ConservativeFirst spews:
Could someone ask McDermott if he’s a Vietnam vet or a Vietnam era vet for me?
BTW, is McDermott still pushing single payer (aka government) health care?
Dan spews:
Why don’t the conservatives have the balls to show up and defend their positions, or ask McDermott questions in person. I think they are wimps.
RonK, Seattle spews:
CF @ 10 — McDermott served in the US Navy as a psychiatrist during the Vietnam conflict, making decisions whether to send trauma cases back into combat status. This has undoubtedly influenced his views on matters of war and peace.
If you think single-payer health care is government health care, your confusion is beyond the scope of immediate treatment.
Mark spews:
RonK @ 12
Single-payer is not government-provided healthcare, per se, but is government funded (and fiscally managed) healthcare that may or may not be ultimately managed by government.
A better (and newer) solution I’ve seen is called a Consumer-Directed Health Plan (CDHP). The employer gives you major medical insurance that includes some wellness checkups and then also contributes a fixed amount (say $2,000 for individuals, more for families) to a pre-tax health savings account. What is different and new is that the savings account ROLLS OVER and is PORTABLE — thereby cutting down on the healthcare waste that happens when people rush to use up their benefits at year-end. If you wish, you can also earn interest on that money that is tax-free since it can only be used for medical expenses.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Reply to 2
“Do they have any ‘free-range’ beer at that joint??”
Ain’t it just like a Republican F R E E L O A D E R to expect free beer? You’d hate the Montlake Tavern, Cyn. A domestic tap beer would set you back $2.75. Think of what $2.75 would earn in interest over your lifetime.
“How about TOFU Hors d’ouevres??”
My, my, Cynical. You do my liberal drinking buddies a severe injustice! They would eat a Republican as an hors d’ouvre, if one ever had the guts to show up (nevva gonna happen).
“McDimwit probably has a private chauffer for his little piece of shit Hybrid Car!!”
Funniest bumper sticker I ever saw said, “My Other Car Is A Piece Of Shit Too.” … was that you, Cynical??
carla spews:
You have got to be shitting me!
Do they have any “free-range” beer at that joint??
How about TOFU Hors d’ouevres??
Guys like McDimwit aren’t exactly the kind I’d be boasting about.
Oh well, it’s a hot day and even LEFTIST PINHEADS deserve a cold beer.
I’ll bet anything McDimwit drinks and dashes sticking your sorry ass with the tab!
Naah, the other “star-struck” LEFTIST PINHEADS will all be fighting over who gets to buy him one.
My guess is there will be an officer in the parking lot ready & willing to administer a breathalyzer!!
McDimwit probably has a private chauffer for his little piece of shit Hybrid Car!!
Ah yes…the great purveyor of pixel diarreah brings forth his elitist snobbery like a badge of honor.
Consistency…thy name is Cynical.
Roger Rabbit spews:
13
“Single-payer … is government funded (and fiscally managed)… ”
That’s bad? Medicare’s administrative costs are 2% compared to 12%-16% for private-sector health insurance (http://www.medicareadvocacy.or.....oreSun.pdf). I don’t know how much Medicare’s top administrative makes, but I’ll bet it’s less than 1/100th of what some private-sector health insurance execs skim from the premiums paid by their (hapless) policyholders. And Medicare doesn’t reward managers for inventing creative ways to deny claims.
Mr. Cynical spews:
carla–
Being accused of “consistency” is a badge of honor my little fuzzy-legged feline.
The problem most LEFTIST PINHEADS have is a lack of consistency. They want to impose restrictions on others….yet be exempt from those same restrictions.
I’ll give you an example….smart growth.
It relies on density in the Urban Growth Areas. Yet I know LEFTIST PINHEADS who prominently fight for “smart growth” while hogging 3 buildable lots!!!
I’ll take consistency anyday carla.
Puddybud spews:
Sorry I can’t make it Goldy. I am here in Plano near Dallas, just down the road from Southfork. I would arrive tonight and ask Federal Felon McDimwitt how does he keep his sorry ass out of jail, when Mr. Traficant from Ohio is serving time.
By the way Carla, what the hell is preemptive karma? I went to Don*****Don’s favorite definition place Wikipedia and I found this def: “it is a sum of all that an individual has once done during many lives and is currently doing. The effects of those deeds actively create present and future experiences, thus making one responsible for one’s own life.” So how does one preempt their karma? You can preempt you current experience? With what, going into the future and getting another experience replacing the present one?
Mark spews:
Roger @ 16
So where does all the money go?? Doctors — especially small-town GP’s — that take Medicare patients often LOSE money on the “transaction.”
And what about CDHP? Why not give people an incentive NOT to use up benefits? Why not give people an incentive to stay healthy? Why not let DOCTORS instead of government, HMO’s and Big Pharma decide what the best course of treatment is?
My current, private-practice GP is on a cash-only basis and I get FAR better care there than I ever have with the doctors on “approved” health insurance or HMO lists. And government management of medicine isn’t any better. The problem is that insurance AND government both think they know better — and would rather pay for three short visits instead of one longer one that sets things right to begin with.
Heath spews:
Mr. Cynical @ 6 —
The most likely explanation for gay-bashing and finger-pointing is that you aren’t confident in your own sexuality. Based on what you’ve written, my guess is that you’re gay and fighting it.
Dr. E spews:
16 (and by extension 19)
Further to that thought is one of Paul Krugman’s editorials on the US health care system. It’s archived (for a fee) on the NY Times, but publicly available in many other places:
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bi.....i/38/10723
Mr. Cynical spews:
Heath–
Hardy-Har-Har!!!
As Goldy has so adeptly pointed out many times…
Making an observation is not in and of itself “finger-pointing”…it’s an observation.
And where is your LEFTIST PINHEAD sense of humor Heath??
Oh yeah…LEFTIST PINHEADS like you have no sense of humor.
You are oh so serious and oh so self-righteous.
Heath—keep up your campaign to ban all comments that you, the Heathster, don’t approve of. Good luck!
N in Seattle spews:
The democratic process rolls on, so I will not be able to join Jim at Montlake. The 43rd LD Dems endorsement meeting is tonight, and I can’t miss that. Lucky RonK gets to go, because the 36th meets on Thursday.
No idea who we’ll endorse for at least two City Council seats, or for two of the Port Commission positions. I think Conlin, Licata, and Molloy will sail smoothly. Richard Pope, of course, won’t be there looking for our support.
carla spews:
Cynical:
Being accused of “consistency” is a badge of honor my little fuzzy-legged feline.
Silly wabbit…consistency in your form is not a badge of honor. But feel free to wear that albatross if you must. It’s cute how you get all defensive about it. :)
The problem most LEFTIST PINHEADS have is a lack of consistency. They want to impose restrictions on others….yet be exempt from those same restrictions.
You mean like when conservatives refer to liberals as “Hitler”…and get their panties in a twist when someone refers to Bush as Hitler? Those kind of restrictions?
Puddybud @ 18:
By the way Carla, what the hell is preemptive karma? I went to Don*****Don’s favorite definition place Wikipedia and I found this def: “it is a sum of all that an individual has once done during many lives and is currently doing. The effects of those deeds actively create present and future experiences, thus making one responsible for one’s own life.” So how does one preempt their karma? You can preempt you current experience? With what, going into the future and getting another experience replacing the present one?
It’s a little play on words that my blogging partner and I joked around about. Preemptive stands for “preemptive invasion”…like the kind Dear Leader labeled for Iraq. And karma is the bitch that will come back to bite those actions.
Dan spews:
Apparently the 46th and the 36th e-board voted “No endorsement” on Nickels.
Mr. Cynical spews:
carla–
You are a dear! I have never referred to any of you LEFTIST PINHEADS as Hitler. I believe that analogy is so overcooked to be rendered meaningless. In other words carla…you LEFTIST PINHEADS have worn the word out.
Consistency is a good thing in my book. Part of the problem we have in this Country is that the Republicans and Democrats are so inconsistent. The line is mighty blurred. Hey carla…you are awfully consistent thus predictable too. AND I FUCKING SALUTE YOU FOR THAT CARLA!!!!!! Seriously…give me a consistent LEFTIST PINHEAD anyday over a RINO or a Clinton.
Mark The Redneck spews:
ATTENTION ALL MOONBATS – When you see Rep McDermott, please ask him what he thinks of Air America stealing money from poor kids in NYC. Please report back.
Mr. Cynical spews:
Mark the Redneck–
Air America…isn’t that what the void between McDimwit’s ears is called?!!
enough_of_this_bullshit spews:
Goldy,
what do you get when you cross Jim McDermott with James Dean.
Answer A rebel without a clue.
He’s a total idiot and sadly so are those that vote for him. Anyone that is that bad at their job should be retired. But, then Seattle area voters are so stupid they don’t care if he represent them or not. He’s an embarassment to the state and to the nation.
carla spews:
You are a dear! I have never referred to any of you LEFTIST PINHEADS as Hitler. I believe that analogy is so overcooked to be rendered meaningless. In other words carla…you LEFTIST PINHEADS have worn the word out.
I never accused you. Project much? LOL
Consistency is a good thing in my book. Part of the problem we have in this Country is that the Republicans and Democrats are so inconsistent. The line is mighty blurred. Hey carla…you are awfully consistent thus predictable too. AND I FUCKING SALUTE YOU FOR THAT CARLA!!!!!! Seriously…give me a consistent LEFTIST PINHEAD anyday over a RINO or a Clinton.
As I said, I’m sure it is good in your book. Wear your albatross as a badge, if you must. Your brand of consistency wins the day for libs every time. :)
By the way…it only looks more defensive when you use caps and extra exclamation points. If that’s what you’re going for….
carla spews:
ATTENTION ALL MOONBATS – When you see Rep McDermott, please ask him what he thinks of Air America stealing money from poor kids in NYC. Please report back.
Pssst..Mark…
(no..that’s not your head leaking it’s usual air…pay attention)
Air America stole nothing. Ethan Cohen took out loans that he apparently shouldn’t have been allowed to take. Air America may or may not have seen any of that money.
But carry on. Don’t let facts slow ya down, sugar.
Roger Rabbit spews:
19
How does paying $5 million salaries to insurance execs help small town doctors?
Mark The Redneck spews:
Pssst…. Carla – you have your head up your ass. Come up for air. Murka is NOT a liberal country and AA can’t possibly survive in free market. So instead, they steal money from poooor chirrens to survive. How low can you go?
Donnageddon spews:
I love the loony parroting of the AA “Stealing from children” BS from the Right-wing Neonuts.
Man, are they desperate for something… anything to take the stench off of the Bush Administration.
Mark The Redneck spews:
Hey Donna – Explain to us how a money losing organization can ever repay “loans”. Why were signatures on checks forged?
Mark spews:
Donna @ 34
Do you or do you not admit that there were financial, management and sales shenanigans going on at Air America — at least when it started?
Donnageddon spews:
@ 35 …uh.. No.
Mark spews:
Donna @ 36
So, you didn’t see the HBO documentary on the founding?
Chuck spews:
Heath@20
Then the reason people dont like those that commit muder is because we want to be murdered ourselves?
Harry Poon spews:
You Lite Wingers are all LITTLE EICHMANNS.
ConservativeFirst spews:
RonK @ 12
“McDermott served in the US Navy as a psychiatrist during the Vietnam conflict, making decisions whether to send trauma cases back into combat status. This has undoubtedly influenced his views on matters of war and peace.”
That really didn’t answer my question. I hope you asked him which he thinks he is.
“If you think single-payer health care is government health care, your confusion is beyond the scope of immediate treatment.”
If the government isn’t the single-payer then who is? Have you read any of McDermott’s proposed legislation for universal, single-payer health care? If you’d like to point out who’s the single payer that’s not the government I’d like to see it. I don’t think I’m the one who’s confused here.
A link for McDermott’s bill:
http://tinyurl.com/blehj
ConservativeFirst spews:
Poon @ 39
“You Lite Wingers are all LITTLE EICHMANNS.”
Goldy, your filter missed some spam, looks like it needs some fine tuning.
Mr. Cynical spews:
So Goldy—
How much did it cost you tonight to entertain a celebrity?
We did have a spy there tonight….a real RIGHTON guy at that.
It will be interesting to get a RIGHTON report about your “festivities”.
A Night with Jim McDimwit.
Now there is a movie that goes right into Blockbuster’s dungeon.
GS spews:
Mark, the proper name for the network is Error America. Now you have been corrected…!
Goldy spews:
Cynical @43,
Do you even bother to read my posts before commenting? I’m in New Jersey.
As to sending a spy, why bother? You’re all invited.
Mr. Cynical spews:
I read it Dumbass—
It still doesn’t mean that McDimwit won’t steal your credit card information and use it to pay for the beer!!
Mr. Cynical spews:
Goldy–
I think your fellow LEFTIST PINHEAD carla would make a great detective…..let’s call her DICKLESS TRACY!
RonK, Seattle spews:
CF @ 41 — Your contempt for US wartime service personnel speaks for itself.
As for your inability to differentiate between “government health care” (much of us health care is) and “government funded health care (the majority of US health care is), that speaks to your inability to recognize categorical distinctions.
FWIW, the US insurance-based system ends up spending more per capita on government-funded health care than any of the “socialized” industrial economies, and gets worse mortality/morbidity outcomes.
I’d like to thank all the righties who submitted questions. They made great conversation-starters.
And remember, next time you don’t have to come in drag.
Mark spews:
RonK @ 47
Yes, there are countries with more “effective” healthcare systems. However, at what cost? Do you want double-digit unemployment or stagnant economic growth? It is a downward spiral.
The more people are on the welfare — and “universal healthcare” is just a euphemism for a massive public welfare program (that simply ignores financial need) — the more everyone else is taxed. The more people are taxed, the less money they have to spend in the open market. The less money spent in the open market and the more businesses and their owners are taxed, the more cuts the business owners have to make (e.g. jobs). The more jobs that are cut, the more people are on “full” welfare. And so on… and so on…
We could pour our entire GDP into healthcare and have the healthiest country ever known to man, but if the rest of it falls apart…
Donnageddon spews:
I just cannot express my sympathy for the Trolls on this blog. They will never know the simple pleasure of being a progressive humanist lover of life.
They sit like Silas Marner counting their coins and never come to the realization that, they soon will die, and all their fucking people over will be meaningless. They will be a forgotten nightmare, when the sands of time are wiped from the eye of history.
I pity you assholes. I really do.
Puddybud spews:
@48: I thought B.A. Barracus said: “I pity the fool”. He was almost 20 years ahead of his time talking about you Don*****don!
Mark The Redneck spews:
So what did big Jim have to say about money for children being sent to hate radio?
righton spews:
donna; “a progressive humanist lover of life”…
wow, you really are delusional, or have a inflated sense of self worth.
How come lovers of life, a) never smile, b) swear all the time, and c)embrace abortion/euthanasia
I think the only life you love is dogs and cats
Harry Poon spews:
Mr Cynical is a LITTLE EICHMANN.
RonK, Seattle spews:
Mark @ 49 — Unsurprisingly, you have everything backward.
We already pour more of our GDP into health care than any of our competitors. We just get less Health for it.
We — you — already spend more tax dollars on health care than any of our competitors.
Our employer-paid health care puts US jobs (and US products) at a competitive disadvantage in world markets.
In a misguided effort to keep much of the health care system private, we have spawned armies of gatekeepers and advocates who are paid to fight each other over the check.
Medically, legally and procedurally skilled, but useless, these hired guns outnumber the entire federal workforce.
They work day and night to exclude patients and deny coverage, or to reverse the opposing advocate’s denials. That’s the advantage of your private health care system.
Those other economies you’re snarking at? They’re passing us by.
Dan spews:
if there was a right wing troll they sure looked like a communist
ConservativeFirst spews:
RonK @ 48
“Your contempt for US wartime service personnel speaks for itself.”
My contempt is for McDermott trying to appear to be something he isn’t. Like any other large group, it’s impossible to judge individuals exclusively by their membership in that group. As such you have to judge them individually by the “content of their character”. I find McDermott’s character severely lacking in this area, and others.
Clearly you must realize the distinction between fighting in Vietnam during the war and serving in Long Beach, CA. I’m sure McDermott served the needs of the psychologically broken service personnel coming home from fighting. But, McDermott is trying to equate his service with theirs by claiming to be a Vietnam vet. All for political gain. This is not some semantic difference.
“As for your inability to differentiate between “government health care” (much of us health care is) and “government funded health care (the majority of US health care is), that speaks to your inability to recognize categorical distinctions.”
So you are saying the government is the single-payer in McDermott’s plan? Is Canadian health care “government” or “government funded”?
Moonbat spews:
Redneck sh*t for brains @ 52
Hate radio? You mean Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, O’Reilly?
Mark spews:
Donna @ 37
As Regis used to say, “is that your final answer?”
The documentary I refer to in 38 is called “Left of the Dial.” Most people say it is an infomercial for AA, but the far more important thing is how they catch the management flat-out lying to advertisers, employees and the press ON CAMERA. It doesn’t even get into any current scandals, just the past ones.
Then again, I shouldn’t really expect you to be honest. You’re probably still in denial about how many people your “Uncle Joe” butchered.
Donnageddon spews:
MArk, you really are clueless aren’t you? You have accused me of lying based upon no evidence whatsoever. I have not seen the movie you are referring to.
ergo, you are a dipshit.
RonK, Seattle spews:
CF @ 56 — Luckily for Jim, he doesn’t need you as a character reference. But with your habit of making unfounded accusations and skittering away from the facts in rebuttal (c.f. our Cantwell exchange) … what is your endorsement worth, anyway?
Canadian health care insurance is government funded. Most physicians operate in private, fee-for-service practice. Details vary by province, but most med centers and hospital networks are quasi-public, that is, they are operated by private nonprofit entities organized under community baords (as are a large share of US hospitals). Now, what has any of that to do with McDermott’s single-payer model (retaining the current US mix of private, nonprofit and public providers)?
Mark spews:
Donna @ 59
My “honest” comment referred to the fact that you’re a lockstep-marching automaton of the Left. You probably fear that if you ever said anything bad about a liberal, your head would explode. You are intellectually dishonest.
You pretend to be all-knowing, yet you deny all of the Air America misdeeds?? They were ALL over the news for a while with the lawsuits, etc. One has to conclude that you are either far less informed than you pretend to be or you’re in total denial that anyone on the Left would ever perpetrate such actions.
Donnageddon spews:
Mark @ 61 “My “honest†comment referred to the fact that you’re a lockstep-marching automaton of the Left. You probably fear that if you ever said anything bad about a liberal, your head would explode. You are intellectually dishonest.”
MArk… where to start. You have no idea what you are talking about, but that obviously does not stop you from blathering like an imbecillic chipmunk nonetheless. I do not go lockstep with anyone, and if you paid even a little attention, you would see me badmouthing “liberals” all the time.
As for the AAR stuff… WTF do I care about that? You obviously find it of great importance, but it is absolutely no importance to me. It’s a freaking radio network, man! Get some priorities.
ConservativeFirst spews:
RonK @ 60
“But with your habit of making unfounded accusations and skittering away from the facts in rebuttal (c.f. our Cantwell exchange) … what is your endorsement worth, anyway?”
Really got your panties in a bunch over that one dontcha? Like I said before I’ve provided backing for my arguments, so none of my claims are unfounded. If you don’t agree with them, that’s fine, but because you don’t doesn’t make my claims unfounded.
“Now, what has any of that to do with McDermott’s single-payer model (retaining the current US mix of private, nonprofit and public providers)?”
Based upon your description, McDermott’s bill sounds a lot like the Canadian system.
RonK, Seattle spews:
CF @ 63 — You backed away from every element of your “backing”, piece by piece, as I blew them up (by showing you how to read the reports that had you so confused).
Dishonest partisan that you are, you never granted the point each time you backed away … you just replaced specific, erronous claims with more nebulous, equally erroneous claims.
And then you got your shorts in a knot, and claimed I was “stalking” you.
Your character is on display here every day. I gave you the benefit of the doubt — that you might be earnestly and honestly mistaken. You proved otherwise. So say what you like … but you leave yourself in a poor position to opine about anybody’s character.
ConservativeFirst spews:
RonK @ 65
“You backed away from every element of your “backing”, piece by piece, as I blew them up (by showing you how to read the reports that had you so confused).
Dishonest partisan that you are, you never granted the point each time you backed away … you just replaced specific, erronous claims with more nebulous, equally erroneous claims.”
I didn’t back away from my claims. I provided backing for them. If you feel your evidence is stronger than mine, so be it. I think I’ve made my arguments, and that you haven’t refuted them. This thread seems like a dead end, so have the last word if you like, I’m going to move on.
“And then you got your shorts in a knot, and claimed I was “stalking” you.”
I was making a joke. Lighten up.
RonK, Seattle spews:
CF @ 66 — Your original claim was that Cantwell reneged on her pledge against accepting special interest PAC money.
Your original “backing” was a summary table from OpenSecrets … but I pointed out that this was a summation of contributions from employees of major firms — Boeing, Microsoft, etc. — and not PAC money.
You did not candidly acknowledge your error, but proceeded to attempt other “backing” … which reflected similar misreading.
At the end you pointed to a summary of Cantwell’s 2006 PAC contributions, which I dealt with in Comment #24 of this thread:
http://www.horsesass.org/index.php?p=870
I showed you how to look up the FEC filings from which OpenSecrets tabulations are transcribed (and mistranscribed), and I listed document image links for the original filings underlying OpenSecrets (erroneous) report of $10K accepted from a transportation union. FEC had it right, OpenSecrets recorded a minus as a plus, and turned $5,000 – $5,000 = $0 into $5,000 + $5,000 = $10,000.
Look at OpenSecrets today, amd you’ll see that report has been corrected and removed. You’ll see a couple of new items … which you can research in similar fashion until they get removed.
You may or may not have known your claim was false when you first made it, but you had every reason to know it was false — and apologize — a long time ago.
Either you can’t be honest with us, or you can’t be honest with yourself. Either way, your character is showing.
ConservativeFirst spews:
RonK
http://www.opensecrets.org/pol.....cycle=2006
She’s taken $174,328 for this cycle, and the election is still a year away.
If you look at the Non-party contributions for Cantwell for the 2006 election cycle the numbers match up to OpenSecrets numbers:
http://www.fec.gov/press/press.....2005my.pdf
If you look at the 2000 election she took $0 from PACs:
http://www.opensecrets.org/rac.....cycle=2000
There is no “Important Note:” indicating that she doesn’t take PAC money for the 2006 election cycle, see the following link:
http://www.opensecrets.org/pac.....Cycle=2006
I’ve pointed these things out before, you haven’t refuted them. The simple fact is Maria Cantwell is taking PAC money in the 2006 election cycle, and she didn’t take any the 2000 election.
PacMan - The Best Game Ever spews:
Hey Moonbat: Hate radio is Air America, or as someone… yeah Puddy said Sacre America. Randi Rosen shot off four imaginary shots like she was trying to assassinate the President. That is a 1st Degree Federal Felony.
So Jim McDermott is a conviceted Felon. And I’m about to move to WA State? Damn…
RonK, Seattle spews:
CF @ 68 — We’ve been around this barn before, and you previously acknowledged (per the OpenSecrets disclaimer) that leadership PAC’s are not PAC’s in the usual sense, that is, special interest PAC’s.
You reneged on previous admission. Getting tangled up in your web of lies?
Click the PAC Contribution detail link on the page you cite above:
http://www.opensecrets.org/pac.....Cycle=2006
Donnageddon spews:
PacMan @ 69 “So Jim McDermott is a conviceted Felon”
Mr. PacMan, never, ever mention my poor spelling again.
Donnageddon spews:
PacMan you leaving SF to come to Wash!?
There goes the property values!
Donnageddon spews:
I mean the last thing this state needs is a big round yellow guy eating all the fruit, ghosts and screaming “Whacka, Whacka, Whacka” all day and night.
rujax206 spews:
Nice to spend time with a GENUINELY great and generous man, Congressman Jim last night. He arrived by himself…and really connected with ALL the folks there. BTW, he spent a GREAT DEAL of time on the tapes and lawsuits (EIGHT YEARS worth) and dear packy, he is NOT CONVICTED (you pompous jerk). We need 300 more like him. He’s IS a REAL patriot.
Donnageddon spews:
rujax, I wish I could have been there. But work and living on the east side makes it impossible. I really admire McDermott.
I did see him one time, about 6 years ago. I was headed to Rochester, NY. It was 5 AM, in the Wash DC aiport. I was waiting for a connection and there walks Rep McDermott. He looked energized and ready to fight the demons on the right side.
I said, “Representative! Give ’em Hell!”
He gave me a thumbs up and a wink.*
*Everything above is true except for the las two lines. I said nothing to ep. McDermott. I just noticed him, and prepared myself for a prop-job and very noisy flight to Rochy.
Donnageddon spews:
rujax, my post is lost in the filter, but it will show up sometime about my meeting with the Hon. Rep. McDermott.
It involves dancing ladies and escaped orangatang’s. Keep an eye peeled.
Fdog Pfinger spews:
Wait a second! All you right wing cool-aid drinkers here spewing up your ignorance for all to see- you forgot your talking points! Here, let me help you out in your mission by reminding you of what you are supposed to always keep in mind when confronting the overly intelligent sex-magnet liberals:
1) It is Clinton’s fault! Valerie Plame, 9-11, the ballooning debt and deficit, corporate welfare, the last 10 interest rate hikes (don’t say inflation), nuclear weapons in North Korea, rape and torture rooms in U.S. controlled Iraq, and skyrocketing health care costs are ALL CLINTON’S FAULT.
2) The Liberal Media is aiding and abetting McDermott’s escape from justice, just like they did for O.J. Simpson (and approximately at about the same time, too, come to think of it… what was that… ’91? ’92?) If it weren’t for the liberal media, our soldiers wouldn’t be dying! The Liberal Media has given comfort to the enemy by reporting on Iraq!!!!!! Oh my flying-monkey, goose-stepping soul! They can’t DO that!
3) Damnit! It’s STILL Clinton’s fault! As right wing and fact-adverse as you are, there is a way- perhaps if you don’t mention the result of the $100M Star Investigation- you can latch on to some bit of incomplete information and remind those poor tartric-engaged, over-intellectual Liberals that we’re less safe and more indebted because of CLINTON!
4) When confronted by the voluminous amounts of direct evidence to the Bush Family and Co. Crime Syndicate’s numerous violations of international and domestic law, not to mention every single edict and moral of religion ever invented to control your uncivilized monkey-like nature, call the facts lies of the liberal media planted by Hillary Clinton. The facts are lies, the evidence is misconstrued, up is down, and oh yeah! It’s Clinton’s fault!
Personally, McDermott took down Mr. Contract With America and I’m still happy he did it. But it was a looooooong time ago, in a case that is still in the court system (thanks to the litigious nature of Republicans), and while you need something- anything- to distract from the disaster that is your president (the worst in the entire history of this country), we poor liberals are a little more concerned with reality and the concerns of this millennium.
RonK, Seattle spews:
McD is not convicted. Or indicted. Or even accused.
The case against him is a civil case … a tort case … one of those “frivolous lawsuits” you hear so much about, only without the cup of steaming hot coffee in the crotch.
The plaintiff, John Boehner, claims his privacy was invaded (though he did not speak on the tape, and was not named, and was identified as a party to the incriminating conversation only because he outed himself).
Donnageddon spews:
fdog pfinger @ 77 your post is literally dripping in factual irony, but this one really caught my baleful, ever watchful eye:
“the last 10 interest rate hikes (don’t say inflation)”
It is fascinating how we can go through repeated interest rate hikes, and never does the Corporate Media (AKA, but not accurately as the MSM) never mentions “inflation”.
Crude oil is now $65/barrel. It should be $25. Does this not equal inflation. Does this not have a ripple effect?
Of Course! But “inflation” only happens during Democratic administrations!
I remember as a child the WIN buttons during the Ford administration. They stood for “STOP INFLATION NOW”.
But when Carter became president and took actual painful action (aka rate hikes) to actually accomplish what a “WIN” button could never do, he became the “interest rate” president.
People are stupid, and republicans are more stupider.
Great post fdog. Very good indeed!
Donnageddon spews:
STOP INFLATION NOW.. should read as WIP INFLATION NOW
I regret the error.
rujax206 spews:
Nice meeting you last night RonK. I like your blog too!
http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah
RonK, Seattle spews:
Good to meet you, rujax.
Aexia spews:
The documentary I refer to in 38 is called “Left of the Dial.” Most people say it is an infomercial for AA, but the far more important thing is how they catch the management flat-out lying to advertisers, employees and the press ON CAMERA. It doesn’t even get into any current scandals, just the past ones.
By “management”, you mean Republican operative Evan Cohen, right? If you’d actually seen Left of the Dial, you’d know that he pretty much single-handed screwed AAR.
He’s pretty much responsible for the current blow up too.
Mark spews:
Aexia @ 83
Wikipedia is a nice starting point, but is not an authoritative source. I could go on there today and edit the AA entry to make you the founder. It is a WIKI, after all.
I actually DID see the documentary, but can’t put names to faces. I don’t recall, for example, which AA manager/owner was the one on the phone lying about ad sales or insurance payments or any of the other misdeeds. Also, Cohen wasn’t the only one playing fast and loose with the truth.