The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E… but no doubt folks will be dropping by quite a bit early to watch the election returns trickle.
In fact, I’m headed off to DL in just a few moments, but polls have closed in Vermont and Ohio and some winners have already been declared. Obama is projected to win Vermont, where he currently leads Clinton 58-40 with 4% of precincts reporting, and McCain is projected to win… well… who the fuck really cares about McCain now that that race is already over?
UPDATE [5:17]:
No, I haven’t left for DL yet. But almost. Meanwhile, while the networks are saying Ohio is “too close to call”, final exit polls suggest a narrow victory for Clinton, likely within five points. In the end, its the delegate count that matters most, and so far it doesn’t look like Clinton is poised to pick up much ground on Obama in pledged delegates. As Jonathan Singer explains over on MyDD:
If Obama can get about 64 percent in Vermont tonight, the delegate spread would be 10 to 5 rather than 9 to 6 … I don’t think Obama will be able to hit 70 percent, which would yield an 11 to 4 spread, but if he could hit that 64 percent mark it could potentially mean that Obama would net as many delegates from Vermont as Clinton will from Ohio.
As of the moment, Obama leads Clinton 59-39 in Vermont, with 15% of precincts reporting.
UPDATE [6:11]:
Polls just closed in Rhode Island, where with 0% reporting, Obama and Clinton are neck and neck in a 0-0 tie. Obviously, it’s “too close to call”. (Or, more accurately, as Nick just pointed out, “too early”.)
More useful, Obama leads Clinton in Texas, 54-45 with 2% reporting. That may not sound like very much data, but over a million ballots have been counted, as all the early voting apparently gets reported as a single precinct. Clearly, Obama kicked ass in early voting. Expect the gap to close, just as Clinton closed in the polls over the final days of the campaign.
Elsewhere, Clinton leads Ohio 59-39 with 3% reporting, and 50-49 in Rhode Island with 4% reporting, while as earlier, who gives a flying fuck about McCain?
UPDATE [6:23]:
CLINTON WINS!!! (Rhode Island.) After losing 12 straight primaries and caucuses to Obama, Clinton has apparently finally notched a victory, with the networks declaring her the winner of “The Ocean State”… which ironically, is not actually on an ocean. (Or for that matter, is an actual island. Go figure.)
UPDATE [6:28]:
Mike Huckabee was still running for president? Who knew? He’s on TV announcing his withdrawal, with “this lady to my right” standing with him, just half step behind and to his side. I’m assuming he’s referring to his wife, but it might have been nice to mention her name. Assuming he knows it.
UPDATE [6:50]:
John McCain’s wife is better preserved than Vladimir Lenin. I wonder if she stops smiling if her face will crack?
UPDATE [7:20]:
As I predicted, the Obama’s lead in Texas is narrowing as more votes come in, down now to thin 50-48 margin. Man am I smart.
Can’t make it tonight – drink high and drink wide for me.
Huckabee just threw in the towel it is McCain for President on the Rep. side today. Obama is winning in Texas but not in Ohio, to tight to call yet. The Socialist Democrats are great at stuffing the ballot box so the winner will never be known.
Ah, Klake “lives” again.
Tonight’s big news: Senator McCain will top 50% in more than one state. This in a race that is and has been long over.
Poor man deservest better than this.
She looks like she could kick his ass.
This is the best analysis yet:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03.....ref=slogin
As always, watch the drinking and driving. The cops are always looking for revenue opportunities.
4 Or do all sorts of…uh, other things.
Roger Rabbit is still sick and can’t attend tonight.
Oklahoma City voters are passing a sales tax increase to renovate a broken-down old cow palace for one-quarter of what Clay Bennett insisted Seattle had to spend to keep his cow team from leaving town.
Don’t you get the feeling that Bennett wanted Seattle to reject his outrageous demand for a $500 million facility? That this was a deal intended to be turned down? That he was just looking for an excuse to steal our team and ship it to his cow town?
And the NBA’s slimy little commissioner was in on this scheme?
To hell with the NBA — Seattle should become a soccer town. Soccer is more fun anyway. The NBA can’t boast of post-game riots in which bleachers collapse, people get trampled to death, and wars get started over losing a soccer match.
Texas:
Hispanics — about a third of voters — went big for Hillary Clinton, 64 percent to 35 percent over Barack Obama.
Late deciders, perhaps influenced by Hillary’s questions about Obama’s national security experience, went big for Hillary, 66 percent to 34 percent for Obama.
Hillary kept her advantage among women voters with a 54 percent to 46 percent advantage over Obama.
Ohio:
6 of 10 voters say economy is top issue.
Among these voters, Hillary won 52 percent to Obama’s 46 percent.
9 in 10 Democratic voters say economy is “not so good” or “poor.”
Voters from union households — more than a third of voters — went for Hillary, 56 percent to 43 percent for Obama.
“I’m assuming he’s referring to his wife, but it might have been nice to mention her name. Assuming he knows it.”
At least he sleeps with a woman, even if he doesn’t know her name, which itself is rare for a Republican.
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“John McCain’s wife is better preserved than Vladimir Lenin. I wonder if she stops smiling if her face will crack?”
Doesn’t Botox dry out after 20 or 30 years?
@ As usual klake is having trouble spelling “too.”
Now you see the Blue Collar Workers do have a voice in this country. Now here in Seattle there isn’t any Blue Collar Worker their jobs were out source to third world countries in order to be green. Love those Socialist Democrats you are either Poor or very rich and live in Seattle. No one to fix all the pot holes they left to the Eastside for better jobs.
@15 Pay your gambling debt, pigeon poop! Until you do, you’re a useless freeloader on this board.
It’s so hard to decide. Am I sexist or am I racist?
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Mark The Redneck-Wonk says:
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NO the wicked witch is still alive and kicking under the house in Texas wearing red slippers.
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10/11 Well, DUHHHHH! Not to pick up on that takes someone like Greg Nickels, with an ego so big that he doesn’t comprehend that he’s being played for a hick….and by guys from Oklahoma, no less.
12 Naaaaaah. Here in the US, we end up paying millions to bring in a glamor boy with bad knees and his plastic wife, and then they spend all their time hobnobbing with other vacuuous celebrities and becoming Scientologists.
Kind of sorry to see Huckabee throw in the towel. He’s been about the only GOP candidate with so much as a trace of sincerity. Not that he doesn’t have a lot of wacky ideas, he’s just up-front about ’em.
Ron Paul (not really a Republican) has a lot of sincerity about him. I’m gonna write-in his name on the November election. No way that I’m voting’ for McCain or Hillary/Obama!
Ohio to Clinton, so says MSNBC
Chris Mathews is an ass
You can get good sake made in Oregon
Chris Mathews is visibly hostile towards Hillary Clinton
Open Letter to Sen. Barrack Obama: STFU
Dear Mr. Obama:
Now that you have lost your last three election contests, clearly momentum is not on your side.
You will NOT be President of the United States of America. Get Over It. Do what you pledged to do and get behind who the people of the Democratic Party REALLY want to be our nominee. Stop giving fuel to our opponents and casting doubt over her ability to lead.
In fact, be joyful and go back to Congress and be the best damn senator this country has ever seen! Petition to become the Majority Leader so you can deliver the senior chamber to President Clinton. Be a part of the solution, not the problem.
With Love,
Dustin James
It’s hilarious how while Mathews is bloviating on some bizarre nonsense, Olbermann just says “Uh huh” and looks at the camera with deadpan disbelief, as if to say, “when will this nutcase just retire?”
Kinda like the look I have reading little dusty @ 31, wondering “when will this nutcase just quit posting?”
Open letter to Dustin (idiot):
Have you heard of the states called Vermont and Texas?
If all Hillary supporters are as ignorant as you – no wonder she is losing.
Time for Hillary to use her math skills and figure out that she is mathematically eliminated. Time for Dustin….to quit posting in ignorance.
Time for Democrats to turn our attention to McCain – too bad Hillary can’t go after McCain on Iraq – because she voted for it.
@ 34 – Neither Barack Obama nor Hillary Clinton have enough Delegates to attain the nomination. Both will have to lobby Super Delegates to their side to get the nomination. Had this been a winner take all system like the republicans had, Clinton would have wrapped it up by now.
Her 19-20% wins in TWO states tonight and the three wins in total make her case for super delegates that much more appealing.
Backtrack Obama is out of this. Goodbye Backtrack, you were fun, and the wrong candidate for the wrong time, and you made me work pretty hard calling for Hillary and donating money, but it’s over.
Backtrack, concede now, don’t do any more damage to the party than you’ve already done, and let the real battle with Clinton vs McCain begin.
Little dusty @ 35, you do realize of course, that what you stated is completely divorced from reality? Right?
While Hillary Clinton would make a great president, she just does not have the delegates. She is basically mathematically eliminated. She needed 20% wins in Texas and Ohio (which she will not get).
She, like Huckabee did, is running a vanity campaign now.
So, take your anti Democrat-Party-unity gibberish and go fuck yourself.
OK?
Darn, I thought the bitch was dead.
Oh well, I guess they’ll hafta keep beating the shit out of each other.
LMAO…
MTR pay your fucking gambling debt. No one cares what a freeloader like you thinks.
CNN now says she is closing the delegate gap fast, especially in the Texas primary with her blowout wins in nearly all of the congressional districts outside the big cities. And she’s taken enough of the vote in the cities to split them well.
Backtrack better hope for a blowout in the caucuses…
But, it doesn’t look REAL well for him there either – here’s a quote from a Backtrack supporter:
litte dusty says “CNN now says she is closing the delegate gap fast”
No, CNN certainly does not say that. They will basically split the delegates, and Obama still has the same lead he had yesterday.
Except in your delusional mind.
@ 40 – ok, don’t believe me. When it all rolls in, and Hillary is the nominee, I’ll give you the change you’re seeking.
Namely, the “31¢ you can believe in” that Obama was promising you. And then you can kiss my big white hairy ass (but somehow I get the feeling you may like that).
She is now up by over 55,000 votes, and that’s WITH Houston (14%), Dallas (54%), and Austin (64%) reporting. Many more Hillary districts have not reported or are underreported.
It’s over folks. Tell Oprah to sing.
Congratulations Senator Clinton on your well-earned and hard-fought victories.
Oh, and if you don’t believe that she’s making up the fucking delegate count?
With the vote totals as follows:
Clinton – 680460
Obama – 525626
The overall total for delegates so far:
Clinton – 69
Obama – 58
That would be +11 for Clinton.
I may let you shave my ass before you have to kiss it… nah, that’s just gonna cause razor burn for me…
I realize that I left out that my totals in 42 is for Ohio.
@ 41 “ok, don’t believe me.”
Why would I believe you, little dusty? You claimed “CNN now says she is closing the delegate gap fast”
But you don’t cite anything, because you can’t. Why?
Because it is a lie.
And in Houston (14%) Obama leads by 47,000 votes, and that will increase as more precints come in. And that is just Houston.
But it makes no matter, even if Clinton wins Texas, the delgate lead Obama enjoys does not change at all.
Which brings us back yo your original lie.
Look, I was watching CNN on the tube, I can’t necessarily point a link to the damn TV coverage unless someone captured that moment and posts it on YouTube tomorrow.
HAHA! Houston just updated to 33% reporting, and Hillary GAINED 7% in Houston from 33% to 40%!
GAME OVER.
Yes, little dusty, but you can look at the numbers and see for yourself that anyone who claims, based on tonights results, that “Clinton is closing the delegate gap fast” would be a delusional moron, right?
Rumblings now that Bill Richardson may endorse Hillary Clinton this week. His staff came out and denied this afternoon on record that he was planning to endorse Obama.
And now for something completely different, Brimelow on Buckley: “For the plain fact, politely unmentioned in most Buckley obituaries, is that Buckley and National Review have been complicit in leading the conservative movement, the Republican Party and the country into utter disaster. Conservatives have essentially nothing to show for their moment in power except two completely unexpected colonial wars in the Middle East. And this year’s elections are widely expected to be a generational catastrophe.”
http://www.vdare.com/pb/080228_buckley.htm
Even worse was Limbaugh’s Diet Coke eulogy to WFB …
@ 47, I think the only one delusional is anyone who thinks Backtrack Obama still has a chance.
His staff pointed out that Texas was his. That Hillary had blown Texas and was rapidly losing Ohio. That she barely had a chance in Texas.
Backtrack’s campaign manager called in to the Clinton conference call early today and ranted and raved to reporter asking hysterical rambling questions, and tried to dominate the phone call for over 5 minutes before he randomly hung up.
His campaign manager is losing it, he just lost 3 states in a row today. Sounds like a well groomed machine of a campaign doesn’t it?
Have fun, dusty. Remember to take your lithium.
You too Blatant, and don’t forget you your anti-depressants. You’ll need em tonight.
You forget, dusty, I can’t lose.
But you already have.
If Clinton wins the nomination, I win. If Obama wins, I win.
You are the one who painted your allegiance into a corner.
Dusty, thgis thread will be very instructive and useful when Obama becomes the nominee. You have screeched and shrieked in here while everybody else was circumspect, made nasty little digs when you think you’re winning. You’re just going to have to go away when Obama’s named, because a lot of us are going to rub these nasty little comments into your face every time you show up.
SemperSimper, want to have a little bet?
I’ll go if Obama is the nominee – will the rest of you go if Obama is the nominee?
kthx.
Eh, shit.
I MEANT:
SemperSimper, want to have a little bet?
I’ll go if Obama is the nominee – will the rest of you go if Clinton is the nominee?
kthx.
Why would we, dusty? We support the Democratic nominee whoever it is. They are both excellent.
But you have demonstrated you are not a Democrat.
Ha ha ha ha you liberal shits! Your cross voting may have forced McCain upon us, but we returned the favor in OHIO and TEXAS! Woohoo!
Hillary lives on! Obama is gonna be O-gone-a!
Now all you dipshits need to do is to figure out how to beat McCain in the general. And it won’t be easy, don’t kid yourselves about it.
pbj, are you as enumerate as dusty?
Face it Obamaheads, he could never win. Now the press is starting to scrutinize him and he is an empty suit, a fad, last weeks news. Throw him in the has-been bin with Howard Dean. His associations with Terrorist Weatherman William Ayers and Louis Farrakahn would have sunk him in the general. The wimp couldn’t even handle a few tough questions from the press so he got up and ran away. At least with Hillary, she has been tested knee deep in the shit.
Do you idiots really want to give it away to McCain?
pbj, when we need a wingnut giving advice, we’ll ask for it.
Don’t hold your breathe.
@ 58 – no, I am a democrat, a blue collar old school majority of the party democrat, not one of you over the top liberal “progressives” that are supporting Obama.
When 52% of registered democrats (and that was before this round of voting) support Hillary, compared to 48% for Barrack, I’d say the majority of the true democrats agree with my positions. And with the percentages of true blue democrats who voted in Ohio and Rhode Island for Hillary, I’d say that percentage is going to increase.
I can’t trust Barrack Obama, and the only way he’d get my vote if he was the nominee is if he picked Hillary as his running mate, and then I’d hold my nose and vote for her, and thefore by proxy, him.
If it’s him without her vs McCain, I’ll vote local, but I’ll probably just write Hillary’s name in.
I’m sorry, he just flip flops on too many issues and is ignorant with the economy. Anyone who says that continuing to borrow $300 billion dollars of chinese money that just adds $300 billion dollars plus interest to our national deficit shows that he does not have a understanding of economic issues. I don’t need the U.S. to go bankrupt under his watch.
That quote should have been:
Better yet, pbj, when we need wingnut advice, we’ll just ask dusty.
Hey BO,
I just don’t want McCain, sincerely, deep down in my heart. I appreciate his service, yadda yadda yadda and all. But let’s face it, he is socialist lite and the two liberals running are socialist heavy. Yeah, he makes a good patsy so you can put your socialism in place and then claim the Republicans did it, as you liberals always do. But don’t you REALLY REALLY want to try hard core socialism that would give Lennin a boner?
I think we, as a nation SHOULD see what four years of socialist policy is like. It would be a good learning exercise for those that refuse to learn from history.
Hell that is all we will get no matter which of the THREEE liberal candidates is elected. I remember Jimmy Carter but the younger generation is too stupid to have payed attention in history class so they will get a good lesson on the Carter years, except they will be called the Obama (or Hillary) years.
I just have to watch this closely, because you liberals have such a habit of pulling defeat from the jaws of victory it is pathetic.
@ 66 “yadda yadda yadda”
Hey BO,
Go look back at how many Democrats vs Republicans have been in the White House over the past 40 years. Out of the last 10 presidential races, Republicans have won 7 times. That is a 70% winning rate.
I’d say you ought to get down on your knees and thank the lord that you’d get “wing nut” advice.
As I said, liberals have a way of forming a circular firing squad.
erratum @ 68 “yadda yadda yadda”
At any rate, Hillary is winning and now the adults are in charge. This is serious business not to be trifled with by fainting teenage girls worshiping a demigod figure. Face it, Hillary’s got the only set of balls for you libs. Now buck up and back her up.
Next Tuesday in Mississippi, Obama will defeat Clinton by something like 2-to-1 (or better). Especially with two wide open Republican U.S. House seats with active primary contests, which will draw most White voters to the Republican ballot in two out of the four CD’s — the two CD’s with the highest percentage of White voters in the state. So this should be a pretty lopsided victory for Obama — probably his best primary showing in any state (not including D.C. or Virgin Islands, of course). This will restore Obama’s momentum pending the Pennsylvania primary on April 22.
@ 70, see @ 65
Richard Pope? Yeah, now THERE’S an authority on winning races.
BO,
Continue putting your fingers in your ear like a little child. Just run off and play while the adults run the country. Now go back to your Nintendo little kid. Mommy will be in with milk and cookies for you soon.
@ 74 “yadda yadda yadda”
HEY GOLDY THAT GUY ON YOUR RADIO SHOW KICK YOUR ASS ON THE TANKER DEAL.YOU WERE STUDERING LIKE HELL.IT WAS CLASSIC WHEN HE ASKED YOUR NAME AND HE THEN CONTINUED TO KICK YOUR ASS.YOUR A FUCKIN JOKE IF YOUR GOING TO DEBATE SOMEONE AT LEAST TRY TO FIND SOMETHING OUT ABOUT THE SUBJECT.BUT LIKE A GOOD DEMOCRAT THAT YOU ARE YOU JUST CUT HIM OFF GUESS THATS THE WAY YOU ARE IF YOU CANT DAZZEL THEM WITH BULLSHIT AND HE IS CLEANING YOUR CLOCK YOU JUST SHUT HIM OFF YOUR SUCH A FUCKIN LOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSER.AND ONE MORE THING MCCAIN IS AT LEAST MARRIED AND HAS A JOB.
@ 76 PU does his nightly PSA warning against the dangers of crystal meth.
Texas has TWICE the Democratic turnout statewide, as Republican turnout! The primary election in Texas isn’t just for President, but for all the U.S. House seats, Texas House seats, probably a lot of Texas Senate seats, and a smorgasbord of various other state and county partisan offices. So even if Republicans weren’t inspired to turn out to vote for President, the rest of the GOP ticket in Texas didn’t inspire them much either.
The urban counties have been somewhat slower to report, so the Clinton margin over Obama should narrow somewhat, and Clinton will have a very narrow victory in Texas tonight.
@ 78, depending on the results of the Texas primary, Obama could end up with more delegate wins than Clinton as well.
Then Mississippi and Wyoming. Should be a good setup for Obama in Pennsylvania.
@ 79 “primary” should read “caucus”
PBJ @ 73
Well, thank you very much. My career average in Democratic primaries is considerably higher than either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. And my career average in Republican primaries is — well — something that cannot be surpassed.
Gotta love that Republican crossover vote that kept Hillary in the race. How does it feel scum?
Face it, Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Hugh Hewitt et al, they told their listeners to vote for Hillary!
Ha ha ha ha!
I guess Hillary is now declaring “on to Puerto Rico!”, which is the last primary. Way to go, girl! Hillary’s legacy may well be giving a sure Democratic victory to a Republican dinosaur. She’ll continue to tear down Obama, who will almost surely win the D nomination, for her own selfish purposes. I’m starting to wonder if the only reason she’s stayed with Bill is because of her own presidential ambitions. Shoot, does anyone have any information about how to go down to Oregon and help Obama for the May primary there?
Pope @81,
How many times did you get elected? I rest my case. You are a perennial loser. It is only natural you finally settle in with the Democrat party.
This is interesting — Texas has 8,247 Democratic precincts, but only 7,959 Republican precincts. I also verified this on the Texas Secretary of State website. I guess there are several hundred precincts in Texas with so few Republicans, that the party either cannot provide sufficient election officials to staff on primary day, or that several precincts are consolidated into one on the GOP side.
PBJ @ 84
I figure, that even if I cannot personally win anything, that it is a good thing to join the winning party. See you LOSER!
@ 82 “Face it, Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Hugh Hewitt et al, they told their listeners to vote for Hillary!”
So you claim the kool-aid drunk republican automatons actually did it?
Does not bode well for the repugs. There are so few of them anymore, all they can hope to do is influence primaries. They don’t stand a chance in the general election.
This thread is a marvelous future resource.
I’m not going anywhere, Dusty, I haven’t screeched for either candidate. I’m just waiting.
The screams of the desperate and deluded aren’t Brahms, but they’re musical nonetheless.
The Democratic turnout in Ohio also doubled the Republican turnout. And Ohio also had a full range of primary elections Tuesday up and down the ballot — congress, state legislature, and various other offices. Doesn’t look like a very good year for the Republicans. Unless of course, Clinton pulls off the nomination, then Republicans will have a fighting chance.
Kucinich easily survived a primary challenge for his House seat, 51% to 38%.
Loser @81: How many times have you run? At least he tried.
Democrats are kicking ass in Dallas County, Texas tonight. With 473 of 695 Republican precincts reporting, 73,150 Republican ballots have been cast in Dallas County. But with only 248 of 695 Democratic precincts reporting, 180,686 Democratic ballots have been cast in Dallas County. It could end up being a better than three to one Democratic ass kicking of Republicans in (until recent years of course) historically Republican Dallas County.
And Obama is carrying Dallas County over Clinton by nearly two-to-one.
I bet in the general election the geniuses of the wingnut right media will tell their automaton listeners to vote for the Democrat. Trying to influence the election in their sneaky way.
Boy, that will teach us a lesson!
@88
Let me modify that: If Clinton wins the nomination AND sends McCain to the WH, I’ll be posting from Canada. (I have dual citizenship).
If the American people are willing to put another Republican in the presidency after the last 7 years, then there is no longer hope any hope, and although I have lived here all my life, I will fucking leave. I’ve done all I an, and if y’all are collectively suicidal, I sure can’t help it.
should read: Loser @84:
“The adults are in charge”
Seems we heard that phrase after the Supreme Court appointed the most immature human on the planet to the White House in the last millenium.
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@42 “That would be +11 for Clinton.”
That’s great — she needs to gain only 90 more. How many more Texases are there?
Hell, it even looks like Democrats will top Republican turnout in the normally solidly Republican Dallas-area outer suburban counties like Denton, Collin and Rockwall — counties which George W. Bush carried with about 80% of the vote in his two presidential elections.
Roger Rabbit @ 95
Thanks for the correction. I was worried for a minute :)
Sempersimper @ 88: “The screams of the desperate and deluded aren’t Brahms, but they’re musical nonetheless.”
Okay, man, you’re going to have to explain that one. Dissonance does not produce music, except in rare jazz circles in which I’m not welcome.
Roger Rabbit @ 98
Clinton would need about a dozen Ohios. Her margin in Texas isn’t going to be that large.
@ 101 “Dissonance does not produce music, except in rare jazz circles in which I’m not welcome.”
Infidel!!
We have Wyoming caucuses on March 8, this Saturday. Only 12 delegates at stake — less than any other state or even the District of Columbia. This should be a friendly electorate and a friendly format for Obama. To be followed by an ass-kicking show for Obama in the Mississippi primary three days later.
Schoenberg, shut your pie hole! You accomplished nothing but atonality. I brought dissonance respectability!
There could be political hope for Texas after all. Maybe after the 2010 elections, Texas will have a Democratic governor and legislature. They can then repeal the homebuilders bill of rights, and enact a homeowners bill of rights.
CBS News right now has the delegates in Texas partially allocated between Clinton and Obama, 78 to 70, with Clinton having a 51% to 47% edge in the popular vote.
@ 106, if only Molly Ivins had lived to see the day.
Schoenberg @ 103,
Alright, alright. On the other hand, please accept my gratitude for your having called me an “infidel.” My confidence has needed boosting lately, and I, therefore, accept your compliment.
@ 106, it will still be interesting to see how the caucus turns out. Interesting, but it is hardly gonna change the Obama spread by much.
On the Texas caucus side, with 34% reporting it is Obama 55% to Clinton 45%.
Anything goes.
Obama is winning the Texas Democratic precinct caucuses in 20 out of the 31 state senate districts in Texas:
http://precinctconventionresul.....08district
And I think the urban and Black state senate districts where Obama has the strongest showings will receive a higher proportion of the national Democratic delegates, because Kerry got more votes in these districts in 2004, than he did in the rural and Latino state senate districts where Clinton is strong.
So Obama could very well outpoll Clinton in overall delegates awarded today. It certainly will be close in any event.
So….where is Alban Berg. He’s no wingnut.
@ 112, you took the words right out of my mouth!
Berg is busy.
So…..Goldy has a RADIO show!
Berg is a serial killer.
This might be getting a little over the top for our normal visitors…
@ 117, I think 4′33″ would be a fitting tribute to the repugs chances in 08
“Experience” is overrated. When you have a medical or legal problem, do you simply go to the oldest doctor or lawyer you can find? And, nothing but “experience” counts? Or, perhaps, do you seek someone who might have a different perspective, better judgment? I’m starting to really not like Hillary (of course, McCain’s “experience” already doesn’t count with me, “my friends”) because of her 3 o’clock a.m. ad. If she wants to make the whole presidential race about experience, she loses. McCain wins. Obama’s been running for the general election throughout the primary season,which has been a wise strategy. Unfortunately, now, I think he needs to go negative.
Arnold, didn’t you write Pierrot Lunaire? Can you whip up something to commemorate the Shrub?
112, and 114 – 118,
Sorry, I’m a simple bluegrass musician who prefers 3-part harmony. And, as a progressive, I like group hugs. Surely, you all must understand?
The last 10% of the Ohio precincts have been maddeningly slow in reporting. Are they from urban areas where Obama was stronger?
@ 122, Let me handle that one.
Sit down, Brecht. I will handle this one.
Cuyahoga, is still at 44% reporting. It is 55% Obama
FYI, Cuyahoga = Cleveland, which if the rumors are true, rocks.
TBO @ 127
Okay it will narrow a little bit. Perhaps even more so if the missing 56% of Cuyahoga County is Cleveland city precincts.
Oddly enough, Richard, CNN still reports Cuyahoga @ 44% reporting, but now it is 52% Obama.
Good call.
@ 106 & 108
I have no doubt Molly will be there in spirit WHEN the time comes!
– – –
To Ivins, “liberal” wasn’t an insult.
“Even I felt sorry for Richard Nixon when he left; there’s nothing you can do about being born liberal — fish gotta swim and hearts gotta bleed.” Molly Ivins
FricknFrack @ 131,
Aye, aye, dear. Liberals, like Molly Ivins, were just born right. I’m guessing God Himself shook her hand as she ascended those heavenly steps.
Dallas County, Texas final results are in (from county elections website). Democratic turnout more than tripled Republican turnout: 297,336 to 91,964!
One possibly alarming note: In the U.S. Senate primary, there were 209,677 Democratic votes to 77,121 Republican votes. This means a 30% dropoff on the Democratic side, versus a 15% dropoff on the Republican side.
Does this mean that a lot of Republicans followed Rush Limbaugh’s advice, and crossed over to vote for Hillary Clinton? Those sort of folks would have had no interest at all in the Democratic primary for U.S. Senate and other offices, and this could explain the much highe Democratic dropoff in down-ticket races.
Democrat Rick Noriega is outpolling incumbent Republican John Cornyn by about 100,000 votes statewide in their respective winning primary campaigns for U.S. Senate in Texas. Not only that, but Cornyn is winning nearly 82% of the primary vote in his cakewalk re-nomination campaign, while Noriega is outpolling Cornyn, despite only having just under 51% of the vote in his four-way primary for the right to challenge Cornyn. The votes of the other three Democrats who faced Noriega in the primary also outnumber Cornyn’s votes when they are added together. When you also consider that over 18% of Republicans didn’t vote for Cornyn either, this means that over 70% of Texas voters chose someone other than Cornyn in Tuesday’s primary election.
Texas Secretary of State website has Clinton winning 64 delegates and Obama winning 62 delegates as a result of the primary – which allocated a total of 126 delegates.
http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr.....038;id=728
With Obama having a slight lead in the caucuses, it is entirely possible Obama will have beaten Clinton in the convention delegates that were determined in Texas on Tuesday.
Here is my bold prediction — the meager net gains in delegates that Clinton enjoyed today (with Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island and Vermont all put together) will be more than offset by landslide Obama victories in the Wyoming caucuses this Saturday and Mississippi primary next Tuesday.
Clinton Campaign Accuses Texas Obama Supporters of Cheating
“The Clinton campaign held a last minute ’emergency’ conference call with reporters tonight ….
“Among [their] allegations: Obama supporters ‘locked out’ Clinton supporters from caucuses, filled out sign-in sheets before caucuses started, and called in caucus results before the 7 p.m. starting time.
“The call quickly dissolved into a heated war of words between Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson and an Obama campaign lawyer, Bob Bauer, who joined the call surreptitiously. ….
“When dumbstruck reporters asked Wolfson who had interrupted the call, Wolfson identified Bauer and said he was mounting ‘a vigorous defense of the indefensible.’
” … Clinton lawyer Lyn Utrecht alleged that Hillaryland has received hundreds of complaints from supporters, many of whom she said have not been able to get through to a state Democratic Party hotline because it is ‘jammed.’
“‘We’ve identified witnesses and spoken to them,’ Utrecht said. ‘There are numerous locations across the state where Obama supporters have taken over caucuses and locked out Clinton supporters…. We have lawyers all across the state observing all of this.’
“Utrecht refused to rule out a lawsuit …. ‘All options are open at this point,’ she said, when asked about the possibility of legal action.
“Wolfson added: ‘There is always a somewhat chaotic quality to caucuses. That is normal. What is happening in Texas today, throughout this evening, is not typical. It is quite extraordinary.'”
Quoted under fair use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://www.newsweek.com/id/118854
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Although I voted for Clinton in my precinct caucus, I’m liking Obama better by the minute! We need a thug like him to deal with the Republican things. The guy is finally waking up to what it takes to subdue nazis. You can’t play fair. You’ve got to “grab ’em by the nose and kick ’em in the ass,” as Patton would say.
typo
Republican thugs
@136 Clinton’s “meager” gains in Texas may improve after the cheating by Obama supporters gets set right.
We Democrats don’t tolerate Republican caucus tactics. The Texas Democratic Party will be under intense pressure to correct the situation there.
Unfortunately for Hillary, despite her wins tonight, winning the nomination is almost a mathematical impossibility even if she runs the table on the remaining states. http://www.newsweek.com/id/118240
Why Republicans Will Lose In 2008
“… [P]eople who have blue-collar jobs, or who have lost them, have suffered a series of blows over the past three decades: stagnant wages, job insecurity, rising health costs, and the loss of insurance and pension benefits. Free trade is … a significant factor—behind these trends. Unfortunately, the policy response from the Bush administration and from the Republicans who have, until recently, dominated Congress has been: Suck on it.”
http://www.newsweek.com/id/118809
Okay Roger — OBAMA PROJECTED TO WIN IN TEXAS! And here is how I am making this projection.
First, I took the current delegate results from the Texas Secretary of State website for primary delegates. Clinton is presently ahead of Obama by 65 to 61 for the 126 delegates allocated by the primary. These are determined by the 31 state senate districts, with the number of delegates in each district weighted by Kerry’s vote in 2004. The percentage that Clinton and Obama get in each district determine how the delegates split. Some districts are right at the breakpoint, and could shift over the breakpoint one way or another. For example, an hour ago, the breakdown by the Texas SOS was 64 for Clinton and 62 for Obama.
Next, I projected the 67 caucus delegates, based on the caucus results from the Texas Democratic Party website. There are 88,074 precinct delegates, allocated by the number of Kerry votes in each precinct in 2004. These precinct delegates will roughly determine how the 67 caucus delegates are awarded at the state convention level. Right now, Obama is ahead of Clinton by 55.3% to 44.6% in reported precinct delegates. However, the percentage reporting varies by state senate district. So I simply projected each state senate district, based on the precincts from that district that have reported, weighted by the number of precinct delegates from each state senate district. This gives Obama 54.8% of overall precinct delegates and Clinton 45.1%. (These do not add up to 100%, due to about 0.1% for uncommitted or other candidates.) Project these numbers out onto 67 caucus delegates, and you have 37 for Obama and 30 for Clinton.
Add these two figures together, and Obama comes out with 98 national convention delegates, and Clinton ends up with 95 national convention delegates. So Obama in fact pulled off a very narrow victory over Clinton on Tuesday in Texas.
Texas state senate district 15 was close, and ended up with Clinton at 37.44% and Obama at 62.01%. District 15 has 4 primary delegates. Obama almost outpolled Clinton by the 5/8 to 3/8 ratio necessary to get 3 delegates, and an hour or two ago, Obama was slightly over this percentage and was projected with 3 delegates. Now, with all 171 precincts reporting, Obama is just a hair under the 5/8 to 3/8 ratio, and splits District 15 by 2 to 2 with Clinton.
I wonder if this sort of margin qualifies for a mandatory recount under Texas election law? A shift of 122 votes out of 80,423 cast would have given Obama an extra national convention delegate.
There are only 16 precincts outstanding in Texas right now in the Democratic primary. 1 precinct each in Districts 20 and 27, which are nowhere near close enough to a break point on delegates. However, District 19 has 14 precincts outstanding, with Clinton currently leading Obama by 53,442 to 31,360. District 19 has 4 national convention delegates, and is currently projected 3 for Clinton and 1 for Obama. Right now, Obama is just 401 votes below the 3/8 to 5/8 split necessary to make this 2 delegates each. Since each precinct (so far) has averaged 289.78 votes, there could be about 4,057 votes outstanding. If Obama gets 401 votes above 3/8 vis a vis Clinton out of the remaining precincts, he will pick up a delegate and Clinton will lose one.
So I will predict that primary national convention delegates are likely to stay at 65 Clinton and 61 Obama, with the only possible change being to 64 Clinton and 62 Obama.
13 of the 14 outstanding precincts in Senate District 19 are from Val Verde County. That county has not reporting any polling place results, only the results from early voting. Clinton carried the early voting in Val Verde County over Obama by 1,180 (61.17%) to 690 (35.76%). It is hard to predict how the polling place vote will go, but Obama generally did better in the early voting.
Looking at the Bexar County portion of District 19, which is only a portion of Bexar County as well, the early voting figures look to be impossible. Obama supposedly beat Clinton by 17,202 to 1 in early voting in that portion of Bexar County and District 19. Not only that, but Clinton supposedly outpolled Obama by 28,335 to 1,669 in the remaining voters, which would have been cast at the polls. While these results are highly improbable, other figures are absolutely impossible: Edwards got 1,183 early votes, but only 263 overall, receiving MINUS 920 votes at the polls, while Biden received 181 early votes, MINUS 90 poll votes, and 91 votes overall.
This is all very interesting …
This situation in Bexar County is probably a computer error of some sort. The Bexar County elections website doesn’t breakdown the Democratic presidential primary by senate district or the Republican presidential primary by congressional district, and only reports the overall county totals. The early voting figures countywide make sense, in comparison with the overall voting figures.
However, on the Texas SOS website, the countywide figures make sense, but when the early voting is broken down by the four senate districts in Bexar County, each district allegedly has an impossible huge early voting margin for Obama over Clinton, with Biden and Edwards impossibly received more early votes than total votes in each district as well.
On the other hand, on the Texas SOS website for Bexar County, the Republican early voting figures are consistent with the total voting figures for each candidate, both countywide and in the four congressional districts having portions of Bexar County.
Val Verde County tiene casi ningunos republicanos. There are only five Republican precincts, versus 14 Democratic precincts. However, all the Republican poll results have been reported, versus apparently none of the Democratic poll results. The overall Republican turnout was only 2.85% of registered voters. The Democratic numbers cannot possibly include poll voters, since only 6.97% of total voters are participating. The Democratic figures statewide are 22.25% of registered voters, and you would expect an even higher turnout in a heavily Democratic county like Val Verde.
Goldy, My PuddyStudy called the popular vote race long ago (over a week) for Clinton in Texas. Check the archives. I said she’d win all the states bordering Mexico when the Nevada results appeared.
I had to explain to my sons why Mexican latinos will not vote for a black man and vote for a white woman. A leetle sumtin called slavery. A meedium sumtin called mindshare. A beeg sumtin called the crabpot syndrome. Can you say open border on the Rio Grande and Heilary in the same sentence? Hmmm… I guess I just did.
Darryl you are still a punk.
With 32% reporting, (and boy, does this sound like how the primary vote went) she has not whittled his caucus vote to a 52% – 48%. And the results are still coming in.
Yes, I know how caucus votes are truly allocated, and not on this percentage, but you know, it would just be fun if she kicked his ass in that vote too.
I can’t wait to gloat at work among all the Obama sheep, and remind them why they should have been with my candidate all along.
that quote should have been
What a fool BO (and his other Sybils) is:
Idiot savant: Your Daily Kurse, CrAP, Stinky Progressives, Michael Mooron, etc. claim they are mind-numbed robots. Headless Lucy and his many voices called them goosestepping jackbooted thugs. Pelletizer calls them Nazis thugs. So what’s the difference? One uses a single word while the other uses a term SeattleJew “loves”. Both are equivalent.
So when they tell their listeners to go out and act donkey you “can’t believe it”? Why is that? Oh… because you are BO and when you are BO you stink.
So which is it? Are their listeners mind-numbed robots or independent thinkers?
Don’t those “vacuous celebrities and becoming Scientologists vote Moonbat!?
Just checkin…
I love how you lefties attack Chris Matthews. Just three weeks ago when he was attacking McCain and six weeks ago when he was attacking Romney, you were gung ho with him.
CM is an ass. In earlier PuddyStudies I put many of his comments from his show on this blog.
Now y’all want to throw him “under the bus”? He’s a leftist MSMer. Not a true 16%er but he does shine that beacon a lot.
MTR – Don’t worry, you posts are usually spot on and that’s why these 16%ers get their panties in a wedge position when they read your posts.
Keep up the good work.
DustinJames @ 150 & 151
I would trust the results from the Texas Democratic Party about precinct caucuses more than those from CNN. And the state party still has Obama leading 55% to 45% over Clinton.
Pope @86,
Winnning what exactly? Certainly not the White House. Your party lost 7 out of the last 10 tries!
And even when your party is lucky enough to stumble into a few more seats in congress, they are so disorganized asses that they cannot get anything done.
So keep on “winning” Richard.
And unfortunately for Clinton, the white racists in Mississippi will be casting their votes on Republican ballots come next Tuesday. The federal races are the only ones on Mississippi’s primary ballot this year (state and local offices were all elected last year, in the year before the presidential year). There are open Republican seats in two of Mississippi’s four U.S. House districts, with crowded Republican primary fields. So I will predict a victory of well over 60% for Obama in Mississippi, and probably over 2-to-1. Mississippi should be Obama’s strongest primary showing of any state (not counting territories).
@143,
Ha ha ha ha! LOSER! Keep living in your fantasy world! You fit in perfectly with the Kool-Aid drinking crowd. I wonder if you lose as many court cases as you do elections. Did you leap over a desk and throw things when it became obvious Obomber boy wasn’t going to win Texas?
Ha ha ha, Or are you STILL predicting he will win Texas? Bwah ha ha ha ha
The ultimate irony:
Pelletizer playing nice with Richard Pope? It wasn’t until 8-22-07 did you have anything positive to say about Richard and his candidate prowess.
Puddy remembers.
PBJ @ 159
Looks to me that Obama’s caucus lead in Texas will more than offset Clinton’s primary lead. So I will call Texas for an overall Obama victory.
And I was too overjoyed by the ass-kicking Democratic turnout in Texas to be upset by the close presidential returns. Democrats in Texas more than doubled the Republican primary turnout. And in historically Republican Dallas County (not anymore!), Democratic turnout more than tripled Republican turnout. In the U.S. Senate race, over 70% of Texas primary voters chose someone other than Republican incumbent John Cornyn.
If Republicans can’t win in Texas, they sure as hell can’t win nationwide!
@139,
Rabbit said:
Ha ha ha. THis is fun to watch. So far in this election the liberal have had to admit:
1) Bill Clinton will lie to get what he wants. Republicans have known this all along, but liberals seemed to have only discovered that fact this year.
2) The media is biased. As the SNL skit reflected reality, this time the bias was for for Obama as the liberal reporters all fawned over him.
3) When given serious questions about serious issues, Obama cannot stand the heat as he showed everyone when he ran out on reporters who finally started asking him questions.
>[referring to Rhode Island] “The Ocean State”… which ironically, is not actually on an ocean. (Or for that matter, is an actual island. Go figure.)
Remember the Atlantic Ocean? RI is on the Atlantic coast, between Connecticut and Massachusetts.
Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhode_Island, explains the origin of the state’s name: “Despite its name, most of the state of Rhode Island lies on the North American mainland. Providence Plantations refers to the mainland, while Rhode Island was the 17th and 18th century name for Aquidneck Island (now composed of the city of Newport, and the towns of Middletown and Portsmouth).”
Ah, Puddy supports the dog torture advocate. Who’s surprised?
125 & 126 ROTFL
138
Rog:
Why so many redundancies today?
#165: Of course Headless, you wrote the posts
Headless@164: Where did I say that?
URL?
Citation?
Time and Date Stamp?
I recently said you are as dense as spent uranium.
Well, you got me Puddy. I confess. I can’t hide it from you any longer. I am all the people you think I am. It’s true! Your brilliant observations and flawless reasoning are just as accurate as ever. Your conclusions are as spot-on as the rest of your posts. Please accept my congratulations.
Recently some lefties accused Karl Rove of placing the Obama in Obama in African Turbin and Robe picture on Drudge. Well Drudge saif it came from the Cliton camp. – Dirty Tricks
Recently some Cliton volunteers in Iowa resigned after forwarding false e-mails saying Obama was a Muslim and a threat to national security. – Dirty Tricks
Reminds me of the dirty tricks Chucky Schumer did to Michael Steele with his Social Security number and credit reports.
Donkey Party 2008 – full of political dirty tricks.
Now we on the right have been saying since 1992 HillBilly are tricksters from Arkansas and the VLWCMSM (vast left-wing conspiracy main stream media) ignored it. Well now we see the Heilary Cliton machine in action and where is the outcry? Where is the gnashing of teeth? Where is the call for moral purity. It’s more like moral turpitude.
#169: So what took you so long?
@168
Hey, know-it-all, if you can’t even remember your own tripe, then YOU look it up.
Try a search on your soulmate Vick in the archives, and reference Mark the Redneck Puddyhole for specifics
Fucking, 2bit cocksucker….
@170:
the republican party: of Karl rove (admitted using politics to out a CIA agent, suspected of illegal politics in the Justice dept., Siegelman and connections to K street and Abramoff) , tricky-Dick (admitted, many others convicted), Illegal phone jamming in New Hampshire (republicans convicted), Willie Horton ads, Swiftboating, GWB impling McCain had an illegitimate child….hmmm
who has the long-standing record of dirty tricks?
You made the call douchebag@172.
Ahhh yes, I see a thread where “chadt” claims MTR is a dog torture advocate cause he said Vick could kill his own dogs.
Did I say I supported MTR?
Please, do tell!
Run away, Puddy, Run away.
I stand corrected though, about calling you a 2bit cocksucker;
I’ve been advised you do 3 for the price of 2 on weekends.
senselesssimpleton@172:
What does “are usually” mean english major from AZ?
What the fuck are you going on about now, Puddy?
As one can see senselesssimpleton@172, 176, 178 can’t follow his own logic, let alone a thread.
You are a blessing to us whom think right.
senselesssimpleton@176: As I heard in Bellevue you’ll take customers to the Bellevue Square Cheesecake Factory and them into the bathroom and let them drive your hershey highway and lick them clean afterward.
erratum… and then into …
Ahhh yes correctnotright: Still on the Karl Rove kick. Ummm. please look up Dick Armitage, friend of the donkey who admitted his big mouth outed Valerie Plame.
Go on correctnotright. You need to correct this as it is not right in your mind.
I’m talking about 2008 donkey politics. You 16%ers accuse us whom think right of living in the past yet at the first opportunity, you immediately enter into the Twilight Zone Time Warp and relive the past.
right wing fool @ 182
You want to throw the lever for Barack Obama in November.
He’s more liberal than Ted Kennedy.
It’s a fact.
Ha ha! You support a “16%er” for Prez. Idiot!