Of course, we all know that they’re constantly drinking liberally at the The Stranger. (I once quipped that I could never work there, because I don’t drink hard liquor.) But there’s also a very nice piece by Cienna Madrid in this week’s paper, revealing to a larger world the sublime pleasures of our weekly gathering of the Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally.
My only question for Cienna is: how much did Darryl suck up to you to be the only blogger to finagle a link? (Damn! He just got another one. Clever bastard.)
When I first stumbled into politics with my “Tim Eyman is a horse’s ass” initiative, one of my slogans which really seemed to resonate with supporters was my promise to “put the party back into politics.” I can’t tell you have many contributions and petitions came in with a request for an invitation to the election night party.
The truth is, politics can be godawful boring, and progressive politics doubly so… we’re all just so fucking earnest.
And as important as it is, the tedium of the actual process of party politics can bring on horrifying flashbacks of grinding your way through the worst high school teacher you ever had. It’s heard enough to get the average joe to show up at his legislative district meeting… but it’s nearly impossible to get him to come back.
I’ve always been a big believer in making progressive politics more fun and more social, and to be honest, what first attracted me to Drinking Liberally was simply… the name. The first DL I attended was pretty much me, The Him, Nick, and a couple of Nick’s friends. And the crowd didn’t consistently get much bigger than that for the first couple months.
But with word of mouth and some steady promotion on the blogs, DL has grown into a large crowd of regulars (and a few irregulars) that this week took over half the Montlake Ale House. And for those who can’t attend, next week will mark the release of my first weekly podcast from DL… that is, assuming it doesn’t suck.
No doubt Cienna’s piece will help boost attendance, but DL has already reached the kind of critical mass that ensures its continued growth through word of mouth alone. Chapters are already established in Bellingham and Spokane (which I hear kicks ass), and new chapters recently opened in Olympia and Walla Walla. New chapters are scheduled to open next month in Tacoma and Burien… proudly making Washington one of the most liberally drinking states in the union, third only to New York and Pennsylvania.
Cienna warns that “without some new blood, DL could be dismissed as a good-old-boys club stuffed with bloggers and politicos,” and certainly we need to balance out the gender ratio if DL is to achieve its full potential. But this is one “good-old-boys club” that’s open to all comers, and it is that informal, social aspect that makes DL different from all other political organizations.
We meet every Tuesday, 8:00 pm, at the Montlake Alehouse, 2307 24th Avenue E. Hope to see you there soon.
UPDATE:
Ooops. Jim at McCranium reminds me that I forgot the recently founded Tri-Cities chapter of DL that meets Wednesday nights, 5:30 pm, at the Tuscany Lounge, 1515 George Washington Way, Richland.
Soon it will be Election Day!! Get the buses ready!! Let’s go slash tires on Republican SUVs like the young Democrat blacks did in Milwaukee, WIS. Like OJ, add a few blacks to the jury, and no conviction!!
The truth is, politics can be godawful boring, and progressive politics doubly so… we’re all just so fucking earnest. [Goldy]……Gee, It’s ALWAYS fun to “redistribute the wealth” and spend other people’s money!! Nothing “earnest” about that!!!!
Goldy, congratulations on what you have started nearly statewide! And JCH….you, as usual, do not merit a comment.
Go away, Carns, and spread some more lies in the Bozosphere.
For a DL thread, only one hater this morning. Of course JCH counts for two or three.
Hey Goldy, you could double attendance by inviting Kevin Carns to come and spy on you, bringing all his screen names with him!
I for one think Goldy should create a special page for troglodyte troll comments, and post it as a link on the Washington State Republican Party website. The link would be titled: Republican political theory. That way all Republicans could share in the best and brightest of their thinkers.
Hey Kevin Carns, you got any more cheap tawdry stunts? Can you pee upside down while doing a hand stand?
Kevin Carns @1
You forgot to mention those guys will be sharing jail cells with Wisconsin’s GOP speaker of the assembly, GOP minority leader, another GOP assemblyman, and a GOP aide!!
Kevin Carns @2
“Gee, It’s ALWAYS fun to “redistribute the wealth” and spend other people’s money!!”
Isn’t that what Republicans do every day?
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“Of course JCH counts for two or three.”
More like a quarter to a third.
Goldy,
My only question for Cienna is: how much did Darryl suck up to you to be the only blogger to finagle a link?
I did not suck up to that woman…Ms. Madrid.
(And, ummm…I don’t do cigars, either).
How about a link to or more information on the Tacoma and Olympia chapters of DL?
Any chance of a chapter in Vancouver?
Oh,I guess since Vancouver sucks and the people are mostly braindead, it would be called: Sucking Liberally.
Is that OK for the Vancouver Chapter?
Kevin Carns @14
Kevin — why don’t you start your own chapter of Sucking Liberally with your many screen names? Or, here’s another idea — we’ll start a Vancouver chapter of Suck Liberals, everybody will line up, and you’ll do … you know …
15.
No, really, Roger. I mean it. I am in Vancouver and it does suck. All of the progressives here go over to Portland for their fix instead of staying here to clean up dodge.
Progressive groups don’t know how to network, and the RR (religious right, not Roger Rabbit) has infiltrated everything. Vancouver, really, does suck.
This is Kevin baiting. He’s like the hamburglar, “He’s Everywhere!”
Although I am not Kevin, your retort was a ripsnort.
Ouch… Goldy you left out the Tri-Cities Chapter. We are still waiting to talk with the folks at DL.org on the phone but have been active for 3 weeks now. Hey! We went from 2 to 6 people in that time! Well, we are no Montlake Ale House but what the heck.
How many New Orleans homeless blacks will be drinking with you libs?? How can you spend money on boozes when sooooo many Democrat “brothers” need help?
I thought Drinking Liberally was organized nationally, and that there was a web page about that?
Thursday, Jan. 26, 2006 11:47 a.m. EST
Iraq Official: Saddam Moved WMD to Syria
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The former number two official in Saddam Hussein’s Iraqi air force claims the former Iraqi dictator moved weapons of mass destruction from Iraq to Syria in the months preceding the current Iraq war.
Georges Sada revealed the charges in an interview Wednesday with the New York Sun. They are detailed in his new book, “Saddam’s Secrets.â€
“Saddam realized, this time, the Americans are coming,” Sada told the Sun. “They handed over the weapons of mass destruction to the Syrians.â€
The former Iraqi general said Special Republican Guard brigades loaded WMDs onto two converted Iraqi Airways planes.
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He said he was told of the operation by two pilots that helped transport the materials. Sada says 56 flights were made, and were accompanied by a ground convoy of trucks carrying similar materials.
The Sun reports that the flights attracted scant international attention because they occurred at the same time that Iraq was sending relief to Syria for a dam collapse.
Sada’s claims echoed those made by Moshe Yaalon, Israel’s top general in Operation Iraqi Freedom. Yaalon told the Sun in December that Saddam had “transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria.†[This cannot be true because both Teddy “Oldsmobile” Kennedy and Hillary “FBI Files” Clinton cannot be wrong!!!!!!] [hehe….Democrats: suck ups to terrorists!]
re 2: JCH: It won’t be YOUR wealth we’re redistributing. The top 1% of the economic ladder has already gotten yours in the form of suppressed wages, unwarrented tax breaks, and financial windfalls from price gouging.
You don’t know what a pathetic, hienie-kissing loser you sound like to those of us in the reality based community. But I understand why a poor person such as yourself would become a conservative:
FEAR….
Fear of losing more than you’ve lost. Fear of being physically hurt and fear of death. There was a study done on this conservative FEAR FACTOR which George Will, in the Washington Post, fearfully dismissed.
The right wing plays upon voters’ fears because fear brings out the conservative in all of us. They are playing those predisposed to conservatism ( fear ) like a Steinway.
As a wise rich man once warned us: “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself!”
I think Cienna is right about DL in that we need to welcome even more people, women and non-blogheads.
Don’t worry, Goldy, everybody knows ya’ and shows ya’ the love.
re 2: JCH: It won’t be YOUR wealth we’re redistributing. [Headless Lucy]……..”We”??…”We”?? Come and try, commie lib Democrat!! Gun control to a Republican is hitting the target EVERY time!
JCH: AND, the top 1% of the economic sphere fear that people will eventually see through the game and take away their money and privilige. In this fear they are well grounded and no amount of guns or money will prevent its coming.
Most armies are there to squelch insurections, not to defend against outward enemies. Who do you think Republicans fear most? Al Qaida or an informed and critical electorate?
I’m not going to have some reporters pawing through
our papers. We are the president.â€
–Hillary Clinton commenting on the release of
subpoenaed documents. [1000 raw FBI ended up with MS Clinton, and the MSM said nothing. Bush taps terrorists phone calls, and Democrats are screaming about the constitutional rights of terrorists!! Classically funny!]
If it is Newsmax it must be true!
Headless Lucy, I’ll bet my home against yours that I paid more in taxes in the last 3 years than you did in 6. Interested?
Six people were killed and eight were injured today when a pickup truck believed to be carrying illegal immigrants ran a stop sign in remote south Texas and ran into an oncoming eighteen wheeled car carrier, Texas State Police said today. The accident happened about 6 this morning near Premont, Texas, about 100 miles south of San Antonio. [It’s OK because the illegals will vote Democrat and the dead school children are too young to vote. “No problem here”, said Hillary.]
The Chicago Sun-Times reports on the Windy City’s War against Wal-Mart:
Eighteen months after the Chicago City Council torpedoed a South Side Wal-Mart, 24,500 Chicagoans applied for 325 jobs at a Wal-Mart opening Friday in south suburban Evergreen Park, one block outside the city limits.
The new Wal-Mart at 2500 W. 95th is one block west of Western Avenue, the city boundary.
Of 25,000 job applicants, all but 500 listed Chicago addresses, said John Bisio, regional manager of public affairs for Wal-Mart.
As blogger Steve Bartin notes, “The morons who run Chicago don’t appear to want jobs in the city of Chicago.”
[“Plantation” Democrats want to keep blacks on welfare and away from jobs. Classic!!]
“Six people were killed and eight were injured today when a pickup truck believed to be carrying illegal immigrants ran a stop sign in remote south Texas and ran into an oncoming eighteen wheeled car carrier, Texas State Police said today.”
Naaaa…it’s a cover-up. They gave Laura her license back….
Comment by headless lucy— 1/26/06 @ 12:50 pm
“Most armies are there to squelch insurections, not to defend against outward enemies.”
What a cynical comment. Do you really think the U.S. military is here to “squelch insurrections”? The British military?
If you are saying that the military exists to squelch insurrections in a totalitarian dictatorship, then I’d agree with you. We don’t have a dictatorship in this country, despite the attempts by the radical left to paint the Bush administration as such.
We’re gonna have to do something about illegal immigration. We simply cannot adopt Mexico, Central and South America or 1,000,000,000 people from Europe and Asia. I’m open to anybody’s ideas on this one.
Hell, at the rate we’re going it won’t be long before it’s the Mexicand adopting us.
Simple, Lib:
The New Colossus
Emma Lazarus
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
N in Seattle, Open YOUR checkbook and pay the way for all the illegals. Pay for their education, welfare, health care, and social services. Leave me out of it!! [“Redistribute your OWN wealth!”]
As long as millions of illeagals will vote Democrat, the door is open. Third world Democrat shit hole, here we come!! Everything free in America, and YOU will pay, and pay, and pay!!! And if you don’t pay, Hillary will take your house and call you a racist!!
While that “Give me your tired, etc.” stuff sounds good, I don’t think it’ll work. There’s just too many people who wnat to come here. We have to do something or we’ll collapse with the inflows. I’d sure like somebody to figure out how we can keep potential illegal immigrants to stay in their own countries becasue nothing will change in those countries if people keep leaving. It means the tyrants win because the opposition is leaving the playing field.
Goldy,
Thanks for the great blog on DL. I heard about it at first at the Young Dems convention in San Fran this summer. I got inspired to start it up in Tacoma Feb. 8th at 9:00pm at Meconi’s in DT Tacoma. Thanks for the shout out and hopefully we can communicate more about this in the future!
Andrew
“Young Dems convention in San Fran”……….too funny!! Junior commies and socialist, all without any military service. Classic!! Future Hillarys Of America!
JCH @ 28 wrote:
“I’ll bet my home against yours that I paid more in taxes in the last 3 years than you did in 6.”
There are two things in your statement that makes us progressives leary of that offer.
1.) It’s well known now that any word meaning conservatie means liar.
2.) Conservatives on this blog make bets, lose, then don’t make good on their word. Imagine that, a conservative lying.
I’ve been waiting since last November for Puddybud to pay on his debt. PacMan was supposed to be the middle man, but of course, not a dime.
GBS, I don’t know Puddybud or PacMan. I know Headless is a loud month lib who hates those who succeed in the private sector. She reminds me of Hillary. You remind me of a Hillary “suck up”. The offer to Headless Lucy stands. JCH
“N in Seattle, Open YOUR checkbook and pay the way for all the illegals. Pay for their education, welfare, health care, and social services. Leave me out of it!!”
I’ll cut you a deal: you open your checkbook and pay for the Bushco war tab, and I’ll open my checkbook and pay for the illegals.
JCH:
You’re angry. I don’t blame you, though. The foundation of your whole political belief system is crashing before your very eyes. You are realizing that all the things the Republicans have told,/i> you over the years to earn your vote were lies.
Like when Tom DeLay state how the Contract with America was, in part, going to rid Washington of its corruption. (laughter)
Or being fiscally disciplined. Now we’re borrowing 2 Billion dollars a day from primarily Japan, South Korea and CHINA — Hello!!
Smaller government. That’s a laugh.
Creating jobs. Please.
Restoring honesty to the White House, Scooter Libby. Or, Bush last year saying that wiretapping required a warrant, then admitting last month he’s been doing it for years without a warrant.
Promising in his 2000 campaign not to engage in nation building like Clinton did in Kosovo. Iraq, c’mon, be honest with yourself.
Claiming Clinton let the military fall into a state of disrepair due to negligence, then using the same military to kick ass around the world. only to mismanage the military into a perilous position. Read the recent Pentagon report. The military is broken.
Cronyism, Katrina and “You’re doing a heck of a job, Brownie.” Need I say more?
Cutting back on mine safety . . . 14 dead miners in West Virginia. Those miners better wake up and realize that their best safety device is a strong union.
Bush claiming he didn’t know Jack Abramoff, then it turns out he had 200 contacts with Jack in the first 10 months of his administration. That’s almost 1 contact each business day!! He don’t know Jack all right, but he does know Jack Abramoff.
Outing a CIA operative and destroying a 20 year CIA front company operation that specifically kept REAL WMD’s out of the hands of terrorists. The repercussions of that boondoggle may REALLY visit the US in the form a mushroom cloud. Thanks, Karl, for being a dick.
I could go on and on, but the truth is JCH, you know this is the most corrupt group of politicians since, since the RNC adopted the Republican Southern Strategy, and they were the most corrupt since McCarthyism, and they were the most corrupt since the Teapot Dome Scandal. . . Hmmmmm, are you seeing a pattern here.
Don’t be such a Zero. No patriot who has sworn to defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign or domestic can look at what George Bush is doing to the 4th amendment and be OK with that.
JCH, focus your anger into change. Not becoming a Democrat, but reclaim your Republican party because it’s been hijacked by radical fundamentalist.
JCH:
Libs don’t hate success. We embrace it. Particularly when it comes to making money. When you say things like that you prove that you’ve bought into the RNC talking points.
Libs, on average are more educated and earn more money than conservatives. You can determine that by looking at the Red/Blue map of the United States. Look at all the “Blue” states. What do you find?
By and large they are almost always areas of enormous commerce. What do you find in cities with enormous commerce, higher concentrations of college degrees.
Look at Georgia. A very RED state, but, Atlanta it’s center of commerce is a very BLUE city. New York City, Boston, Philadelphia, Miami, Chicago, St. Louis, Minneapolis, LA, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle . . . all magnets for commerce and all Blue cities.
Are there exceptions to the rule? Sure, but they are exceptions.
You want “Uncle Sam” out of your pocket? You’ll be paying a lot more in interest rates, higher fees, etc due to the debt the Republicans are running up than the tax cut you’ve gotten.
When the Clinton administration spent our money wisely with a pay as you go system, the economy does much better. Another undisputable fact.
Those are just the plain old, unvarnished truth. Deal with it.
GBS
You know what they say, “Vote Republican: it’s easier than thinking.”
JCH @ 40 wrote:
“Junior commies and socialist, all without any military service.”
Shall I provide you a list with all of your Republican Chickenhawk icons that didn’t serve. . . starting with Dick “I had other priorities besides military service” Cheney?
JCH @ 40:
Pretty bold comment considering the Senator from your state of Hawaii is a Democrat and a WWII Medal of Honor winner.
Hmmmm. . . Do you think they awarded LT. Bush a Medal of Honor for disobeying a direct order to get his flight physical to maintain his pilot status and therefore had to be grounded?
After all the millions of dollars of tax payer money that was spent training George W. Bush to be a pilot in the Air National Guard, what if America needed to count on him because America was under attack. George W. Bush couldn’t be counted on to defend America while he was grounded, now could he?
How can you follow someone who willingly disobeyed direct orders and had to be grounded while John Kerry was earning Silver Stars and Purple hearts in Mekong Delta?
Dr E.
What amazes me to no end is how willing conservatives are to turn a blind eye when it’s “their guys” committing such egregious acts, and yet wanted President Clint removed from office because he lied to a grand jury about an extramarital affair.
Go figure.
GBS, I must have missed your post on pesident Clinton’s military serve. In addition, have you ever flown in an F-102 Delta Dagger? If so, how many hours? Finally, was prior military service an issue when Clinton ran against Bob Dole? I must have missed your post about this as well. JCH [LT, USN 76-84]
JCH:
Libs don’t hate success. We embrace it. [GBS] Wrong, GBS, You tax it!! The entire Democrat foundation is to tax success [“redistribute the wealth”] and buy votes with “guvment” jobs or welfare checks. Progressive taxes are just warmed over Democrat Marxism. Finally, I think the “Swifties” covered John “Fing” Kerry’s military medals. [Has Kerry signed his DD-214 yet?] hehe, JCH
GBS, Your military service? ………….[I thought so!]
I like John Kerry because he knows how to marry rich!! Not once, but twice!! Shake down those older bitches!!
Goldy,
Could you provide some information on the Burien chapter? I want to invite Janet S. for some libation. No, Vagina Lips. It has nothing to do with that.
If Iran or Iraq could provide Democrats with 1 million new Democrat votes a year [like Mexico], the liberal Democrats would welcome hundreds of thousands of Muslim terrorists into the United States.
If barnyard animals would register and vote Democrat, liberals would have welfare checks, buses, Marlboro cigarettes, King Cobra Malts, and KFC for the cows and pigs to get to the polls in November. Barnyard animal votes would exceed 115% of registration, and anyone who questioned any of these Democrat votes would be labeled “racist and hateful”!!!
Clinton serve in the military. What would he use for target practice, a blue dress. Hehehehe
As a wise rich man once warned us: “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself!”
Comment by headless lucy— 1/26/06 @ 12:39 pm
Headless lucy do you belive the democrates don’t?
Lucy a better man wrote:” Any man who is afraid to die will never really live!” General G.S. Patton
Anyone here send a check to help kick Souter off his farm? We need to put in some real developments that will pay real taxes!!! [hehe]
I’ll cut you a deal: you open your checkbook and pay for the Bushco war tab, and I’ll open my checkbook and pay for the illegals.
Comment by Dr. E— 1/26/06 @ 4:20 pm
No you won’t Dr. E because you don’t have that much money in your bank account.
60..Simply TAKE the cost in Iraqi oil. The get freedom….We get 2 trillion in low sulfur sweet crude. And who is going to stop us from covering the cost of the war from the Iraqi people? Now, the illegals are here because they vote Democrat. If the illeagls voted 90% Republican, the Dems would make damn sure they stayed in Mexico. Democrats: economic dumb shits!
The number two general in Saddam Hussein’s air force says Iraq moved its weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the U.S. invasion. In a new book titled “Saddam’s Secrets,†former general Georges Sada recounts the story of two airline pilots who told him Saddam’s Republican Guard loaded chemical weapons onto two converted civilian aircraft, which the pilots then flew into neighboring Syria under the guise of humanitarian relief.
Sada tells FOX News he believes the Syrian government knows exactly where the weapons are saying, “I am sure that these weapons have landed in Damascus. [This cannot be true because Bush lied!!! Yes, Bush lied!! Yes, Bush lied!!…….Oh, He didn’t?? Never mind!! Rosanne Rosannadanna]
JCH can suck my shit pipe.
JCH can suck my shit pipe.
Comment by cornbread — 1/26/06 @ 9:59 pm [Cornbread, That’s it?? That’s the best you have? Sad….]
Democrats: Leading the USA into third world status!! Bring in another 20 million Mexicans to vote Democrat!!
Tijuana, Mexico – Mexico’s leftist presidential front-runner on Thursday attacked Washington’s plans to build a high-security border fence that aims to crack down on illegal immigration. Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador told a crowd of about 7,000 in the gritty border city of Tijuana that fences and additional border police would only create more conflict. /break/ ”It must be made clear to our neighbors that nothing will be resolved by building fences, nor with more border patrol agents, nor with more severe laws or with firm hand threats” [OK, How about land mines?? I bet they will work!!]
WASHINGTON — Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton wants Wal-Mart to contribute to health insurance for its employees – but can’t recall if she pushed for worker benefits during six years as a paid board member for the nation’s largest retailer.
…..
Asked if she had advocated better benefits while serving as a board member with Arkansas-based Wal-Mart from 1986 to 1991, Clinton replied, “Well, you know, I, that was a long time ago … have to remember,” adding that “obviously I believe every company should” contribute to benefit plans. [Now THIS is funny!!!!]
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Klake, you don’t get the metaphor. My “checkbook”, i.e. the taxes I pay to the federal gov’t., is already open.
The Iraqi general who served as a top lieutenant to Saddam Hussein said Thursday that he personally witnessed Osama bin Laden inspecting Iraqi air force facilities in Baghdad.
Speaking in halting English, former Iraqi Gen. Georges Sada described the bin Laden visit to ABC Radio’s Sean Hannity.
“I can make sure one thing – I know – I have seen by my eyes. It was in ’84, ’85, Osama bin Laden himself was coming to Iraqi air force headquarters.”
Gen. Sada explained: “At that time he was looking for contracts to build air fields in Iraq.”
The top Hussein lieutenant said he had no idea if the visit was part of any alliance between bin Laden and the Iraqi dictator.
Bin Laden’s 1984 trip to Baghdad has never before been revealed, though a 1998 visit during which the al Qaeda chief allegedly met with Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz was reported by the Weekly Standard two years ago.
In an interview that appeared in Thursday’s New York Sun, Gen. Sada confirmed that Saddam had spirited his weapons of mass destruction out of the country before the U.S. invaded in March 2003.
“Saddam realized, this time, the Americans are coming,” he told the Sun. “They handed over the weapons of mass destruction to the Syrians.â€
[This can’t be true because Kerry and Kennedy told us there were NO terrorists in Iraq! Bush lied!! Bush lied!! Bush lied!!……..Oh, He didn’t?……….Never mind!! Rosanna Rosannadana]
JCH @ 52 wrote:
“GBS, Your military service? ………….[I thought so!]
Comment by JCH— 1/26/06 @ 5:37 pm”
Can you remember any details of a conversation on this thread or is it just beyond your mental capabilities. I told you I served short stint on the Gator Navy. I also told you I got out as and EN1.
Answer me this one question: Specifically, why would an EN be more important to an LST than a CVN?
BTW, I didn’t wash out of the programs I volunteered for, unlike you. Try this motto on for size and get back to me, “It pays to be a winner. 2nd place is first loser.” Who says that and why?
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