The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Perhaps we’ll even do another podcast tonight after a several week lapse.
If you’re finding it hard to stay interested in politics now that the election is over and the Holiday season is upon us, the least you can do is stay interested in beer.
Not in Seattle? Washington liberals will also be drinking tonight in the Tri-Cities. Here’s a full run down of WA’s eleven Drinking Liberally chapters, including our newest chapter in the former Republican stronghold of Mercer Island:
| Where: | When: | Next Meeting: | |
| Burien: | Mick Kelly’s Irish Pub, 435 SW 152nd St | Fourth Wednesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward | November 22 |
| Kirkland: | Valhalla Bar & Grill, 8544 122nd Ave NE | Every Thursday, 7:00 pm onward | November 23 |
| Mercer Island: | Roanoke Tavern, 1825 72nd Ave SE | (Starting January) Second and fourth Wednesday of each month, 6:00-8:00 pm | January 10 |
| Monroe: | Eddie’s Trackside Bar and Grill, 214 N Lewis St | Second Wednesday of each month, 7:00 PM onward | December 13 |
| Olympia: | The Tumwater Valley Bar and Grill, 4611 Tumwater Valley Drive South | First and third Monday of each month, 7:00-9:00 pm | December 4 |
| Seattle: | Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Ave E | Every Tuesday, 8:00 pm onward | November 21 |
| Spokane: | Red Lion BBQ & Pub, 126 N Division St | Every Wednesday, 7:00 pm | November 22 |
| Tacoma: | Meconi’s Pub, 709 Pacific Ave | Every Wednesday, 8:00 pm onward | November 22 |
| Tri-Cities: | O’Callahans – Shilo Inn, 50 Comstock, Richland | Every Tuesday, 7:00 pm onward | November 21 |
| Vancouver: | Hazel Dell Brew Pub, 8513 NE Highway 99 | Second and fourth Tuesday of each month, 7:00 pm onward | November 28 |
| Walla Walla: | The Green Lantern, 1606 E Isaacs Ave | First Friday of each month, 8:00 pm onward | December 1 |
(And apparently there’s also an unaffiliated liberal drinking group in Olympia that meets every Monday at 7PM at the Brotherhood Lounge, 119 N. Capital Way.)
Too much gettin’ ready for the Big Meal on Thursday to be able to do that. I have to make turkey stock.
What happened to Podcasting Liberally?
We need a Lynnwood chapter…anyone interested??
Emmett @2,
Richard and Gavin, who own the equipment and produce the podcast have not been able to make it.
Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL and never announces his appearances in advance because there’s a $50 bounty on my pelt.
Heading to Phoenix early tomorrow morning, and have a bit to get done before hand. Can’t make it unfortunately. :(
I’ll make it next week though!!
Goldie: Remember the Texas sodomy law the Moonbat!s wanted thrown out by SCOTUS. They did and the dissenters Why not bring up Polygamy and the predicted reaction now being hoisted upon monogomysts by polygamists. They are now using the gay marriage attack to say multi-spouses are just fine too.
See: http://www.usatoday.com/news/o.....rley_x.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00206.html
Hey Clueless/YOS LIB BRO – They meet the SMELL test of MSM. STUUUUUUPIIIIIIIIIIIID MOONBAT!
But wait…… there’s more…
The Great legal mind Antonin Scalia predicted this when he dissented on the Texas sodomy law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas
Now Clueless/YOS LIB BRO, I even used Wikipedia.
BTW you can suck Furball’s little pink peter too. Call 1-800 Suck-Rog. He need’s a good donking!
MWS @ 7:
Just because Scailia made those remarks in his dissent doesn’t make them just.
Why can’t two, or more, consenting, legal adults get married?
7 It’s not clear what MWS’s point is, other than the one upon which he places his hat.
The Seattle Fish Wrapper offers two views of the midterm elections today, one from a liberal columnist and one from a wingnut columnist. Compare this http://tinyurl.com/yhdb6o with this http://tinyurl.com/ycw3h7 and then decide who’s reasonable and pragmatic versus who’s shrill and whiney.
7 Lawyers are like political strategies, MWS — they throw the whole bowl of spaghetti at the wall to see if anything sticks.
strategists, not strategies
wow this thread is up to 13 comments already! That’s more than the sucky little jihad blog gets in a week.
Meanwhile, the shrill little voices of the insane right continue to write their “terrorists love Democrats” letters to newspapers around the state, such as this one by Timothy May of Vancouver in the Vancouver Columbian:
” … The Democrats are openly discussing ‘cutting and running’ in the war on terror, simply to prove Bush was wrong and to punish Bush and his supporters. Don’t say you weren’t warned about this pre-election — that a vote for the Democrats was a vote for a terrorist. …”
http://tinyurl.com/y3nwlo
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Of course I didn’t quote the whole thing. Didn’t need to. You already know what it says: Democrats are “hacks” with “their collective heads in the sand” who offer America’s “sworn enemies” polices of “appeasement and surrender” blah blah blah. He concluded with, “May God help us all.” Well, God just did, and thank Him that in a few more weeks these blathering blowhards will no longer be running our country. The mess they’ve made of the war against terrorism (and everything else) speaks for itself.
That dipshit probably doesn’t know that a rabbit is making fun of him on a liberal blog. Too bad.
I know righties don’t support the Fairness Doctrine, but as this is a liberal blog, it’s only fair that I post a letter representing a diverse viewpoint. Gerald R. Johnson of Vancouver wrote to the Columbian:
” … [T]he Bush administration’s mistakes in Iraq inspire awe. They stand in lonely splendor like Himalayan peaks, the envy of blunders everywhere that aspire to greatness.
“Achievements on this scale don’t occur overnight. The Manhattan Project took years. The moon landings climaxed a decade of manned space travel. The Bushies reached Olympian heights within months of the invasion.
“These immortals have earned bragging rights that few in history could legitimately rival.”
(same link)
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Well done, my friend, well done.
The Bushies have yet to achieve the level of folly accomplished by, say, the World War I generals — but they’re working on it.
Norma G. Haggerty of Vancouver wrote this gushy sentimental letter to the Columbian:
“Let us hope and pray that Republicans and Democrats in Congress and state legislatures will … stop the political bickering. The najority of voters want our representatives to show the rest of the world that democracy works.
“We want peace …. We want our representatives to face up to the reality of global warming …. We want to eliminate hunger and homelessness in the U.S. and to help other nations take care of poverty-stricken parts of their own populations.
“No matter what political label we wear, we want to solve those problems and many others. We are all on the same side: the United States of America, where all men and women have equal voting rights — rich or poor, black or white. Let’s all work together.”
(same link)
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Very touching, Norma. But the wingnuts don’t want any of that stuff, and are not on “same side” as the rest of us. They’re think we’re the “the enemy.” How the hell can we “work together” with them? It’s impossible. We won the election, and now we’re going to dump their agenda and enact ours. That’s what elections are all about: Crush the bastards.
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The quote is truly moving. The guy should get some sort of award. And, I didn’t think the Bushites could succeed at anything–instead, we see that their fuckups are monumental and timeless, that they have set the standard against which future executive fuckups shall be measured. Achievements of that scale deserve our respect. I tip my hat.
MUSLIMS KICKED OFF FLIGHT FOR PRAYING IN TERMINAL
“Six Imams Removed From Twin Cities Flight
“Muslim Group Calls for Investigation of Airline Staff, Security
“By STEVE KARNOWSKI, AP
“MINNEAPOLIS (Nov. 21) — The Council on American-Islamic Relations called Tuesday for an investigation into the behavior of airline staff and airport security in the removal of six Muslim scholars from a US Airways flight a day earlier.
“A passenger raised concerns about the imams — three of whom said their normal evening prayers in the airport terminal before boarding the Phoenix-bound plane, according to one — through a note passed to a flight attendant, according to Andrea Rader, a spokeswoman for US Airways. …
“The six were returning from a conference in Minneapolis of the North American Imams Federation, said Omar Shahin of Phoenix, president of the group. ‘They took us off the plane, humiliated us in a very disrespectful way,’ Shahin said after the incident.
“Shahin said Tuesday that three members of the group prayed in the terminal before the six boarded the plane. They entered individually, except for one member who is blind and needed to be guided, Shahin said. Once on the plane, the six did not sit together, he said.
“‘We did nothing’ on the plane, Shahin said.
“The six were among passengers who boarded Flight 300, bound for Phoenix, around 6:30 p.m. Monday, airport spokesman Pat Hogan said.
“Police were called after the captain and airport security workers asked the men to leave the plane and the men refused, Rader said. Shahin said no one asked the six to leave until police arrived, when the group complied. …
“When Shahin went back to the airport Tuesday morning, a ticketing agent told him his payment for Monday’s flight had been refunded and the airline wouldn’t sell more tickets to him or the other imams. An airline spokesman in Arizona said he wasn’t aware of the ticketing decision and could not comment. …
“‘Unfortunately, this is a growing problem of singling out Muslims or people perceived to be Muslims at airports, and it’s one that we’ve been addressing for some time,’ council spokesman Ibrahim Hooper said.
“Hooper said the meeting drew about 150 imams from all over the country, and that those attending included Rep.-elect Keith Ellison, D-Minn., who just became the first Muslim elected to Congress. Shahin said they went as far as notifying police and the FBI about their meeting in advance. … ”
Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/y3dgkj
Roger Rabbit Commentary: I can already predict the wingnut reaction to this outrage: Shut up and be grateful the cops didn’t taser you for praying to a false god! Me, I think it’s a fucking outrage, not to mention a violation of their Constitutional rights (as police were involved in removing them from the plane, their removal constitutes official governmental action in violation of the First Amendment). I smell a lawsuit — and maybe a Supreme Court case.
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That is a lovely piece of prose. I wish I’d written it.
ILLEGITIMATE BIRTHS SOAR UNDER BUSH “FAMILY VALUES” POLICIES
“37 Percent of U.S. Births Out of Wedlock
“By MIKE STOBBE, AP
“ATLANTA (Nov. 21) – Out-of-wedlock births in the United States have climbed to an all-time high …, government health officials said Tuesday.
“[But] … the teen birth rate actually dropped last year to the lowest level on record. Instead, births among unwed mothers rose most dramatically among women in their 20s … reflect[ing] the burgeoning number of people who are putting off marriage or living together without getting married. …
“According to census figures, the median age at first marriage was 27 for men and 25 for women last year, up from 23 and 20 in 1950. Meanwhile, the number of unmarried-couple households with children has been climbing, hitting more than 1.7 million last year, up from under 200,000 in 1970. …”
Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info, click on http://tinyurl.com/y7pqcy or lick my cute cottontail — for a good time, call 1-800-LICK-ROG!
ROGER RABBIT POLL
Illegitimate births among 20-somethings are soaring because:
[ ] 1. Birth control works better than preachy old hypocrites telling horny young people to abstain from sex;
[ ] 2. Who can afford to get married on $5.15 an hour?
[ ] 3. Duh … when you shut down abortion clinics more babies are born;
[ ] 4. There’s too many 70-year-old Republicans fucking 25-year-old girls;
[ ] 5. All of the above.
Roger Rabbit Commentary: I have to believe that cheap labor conservatives are behind the national trend toward postponing marriage and having children out of wedlock.
– Wages are being pushed down;
– Youths graduate from college with crushing debt loads because Republicans have stripped funding from student financial aid programs;
– The cost of living is soaring because of Bush’s Inflation Tax;
– Everybody except the extremely rich are worse off financially;
… and these fucks want to know why young Americans don’t get married? Because they can’t fucking afford to, thanks to the CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES and greedy old plutarchs who are looting the nation’s economy.
Bush solution for economic squeeze on middle class caused by cheap labor conservatives: Don’t have sex!
Betcha Bush is an expert on not having sex. This guy hasn’t been laid for at least 20 years. You can tell from the mervous twitching at the corners of his mouth.
I share his pain … I haven’t been laid for 5 whole minutes! I try to bang at least 500 cute fluffy female bunnies a day to preserve my species. It’s what nature designed me to do! I’m a Rabbit Perpetuation Machine!!! :D :D :D
Most of my 126,453 children were born out of wedlock, but only 6,894 of them are currently alive and residing in Green Lake Park … (pause) (tire squealing noises) … make that 6,893 …
17 “The Bushies have yet to achieve the level of folly accomplished by, say, the World War I generals”
Well, yeah…they haven’t (yet, at least) managed to cause in their two and a half piddly-ass wars in the Middle East the same level of slaughter that occurred in the trenches of World War I. On the other hand, they’ve done a great job of ignoring the horrors going on in sub-Saharan Africa.
20 The news of this incident must have made JCH swell with pride.
roger………you can mock the “other blog” all you want…but it’s a little tedious of you since most of the posts on here are yours and yours alone.
i actually feel sorry for you now….no plans for thanksgiving or any life at all?
as far as the muslims being removed from the plane….GREAT JOB. this is america and there are plenty of nutty countries where people that act like terrorists can go and live. think about this….
if you were living in the middle east [and good luck to you] not only could your wife [if you have one] not go out without a head scarf even though that’s NOT her religion most of her rights would be moot. and IF american christians had attacked and killed 3000 innocent people [I.E. 9/11] then how many rights do you think you would have in that country?
i am a very tolerant person….but there is a big difference between tolerance and blind stupidity and i have to tell you that if i was boarding a flight and several muslims were praying BEFORE getting on the plane i would have them ejected too.
and so would you roger…so stop being such a phoney.
christmasghost said:
Actually, devout Muslims are required to pray several times every day. Most buildings open to the public anywhere in a Muslim country will have a small room dedicated to prayer. Several times a day, the call to prayer is heard in most Muslim cities, and most people stop what they are doing, unroll a small mat, and pray. If you bothered to find out anything about the religion, you would know that.
Not to mention the fact that many Christians will pray prior to boarding a flight. It is not all that strange to see people praying in airports. If a Priest or Minister were to be seen praying in an airport, nobody would think twice about it. Many airports have chapels just for that purpose.
It seems that only Muslims cannot pray in an airport.
So no, you are not a very tolerant person. You’re a bigot.
More Evidence Of ‘Anti-Terrorist’ Snooping Abuses
“Military Documents Hold Tips on Antiwar Activities
“By ERIC LICHTBLAU and MARK MAZZETTI
“Published: November 21, 2006
“WASHINGTON, Nov. 20 — An antiterrorist database used by the Defense Department in an effort to prevent attacks against military installations included intelligence tips about antiwar planning meetings held at churches, libraries, college campuses and other locations, newly disclosed documents show.
“One tip in the database in February 2005, for instance, noted that ‘a church service for peace’ would be held in the New York City area the next month. Another entry noted that antiwar protesters would be holding ‘nonviolence training’ sessions at unidentified churches in Brooklyn and Manhattan. …
“The head of the office that runs the military database … said Monday that material on antiwar protests should not have been collected …. ‘I don’t want it, we shouldn’t have had it, not interested in it,’ said Daniel J. Baur, the acting director of the counterintelligence field activity unit … at the Defense Department. …
“Mr. Baur said that those operating the database had misinterpreted their mandate and that … an antiterrorist database became … a catch-all for … protests against the military presence in Iraq. …
Once the problem was discovered, he said, … more than 180 entries in the database related to war protests were deleted from the system ….
“Mr. Baur was responding to the latest batch of documents produced by the military under a Freedom of Information Act request brought by the American Civil Liberties Union and other groups. The A.C.L.U. planned to release the documents publicly on Tuesday, and officials with the group said they would push for Democrats, newly empowered in Congress, to hold formal hearings about the … database.
“Ben Wizner, a lawyer for the A.C.L.U. in New York, said the new documents suggested that the military’s efforts to glean intelligence on protesters went beyond what was previously known. …
“The leader of one antiwar group mentioned repeatedly in the latest military documents provided to the A.C.L.U. said he was skeptical that the military had ended its collection of material on war protests. ‘I don’t believe it,’ said the leader, Michael T. McPhearson, a former Army captain who is the executive director of Veterans for Peace, a group in St. Louis. …
“The latest … documents showed that the military used a variety of sources to collect intelligence leads on antiwar protests, including an agent in the Department of Homeland Security, Google searches on the Internet and e-mail messages forwarded by apparent informants with ties to protest groups.
“In most cases, entries in the … database acknowledged that there was no specific evidence indicating the possibility of terrorism or disruptions at the antiwar events …. One entry on Mr. McPhearson’s group …, for instance, described a protest … at which members handed out antimilitary literature and set up hundreds of white crosses to symbolize soldiers killed in Iraq.”
Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/yfhfpv.
Roger Rabbit Commentary: We’ve known all along these shitheads were spying on dissenters, just like Nixon’s goons did! So this is no surprise. How many people’s civil liberties were violated? How many illegal phone taps were installed? How many people were denied passports, employment, credit, or other things because thugs misusing governmental power didn’t like their opinions? We need investigations, hearings, and prosecutions of these warmongering law-breaking bastards.
I’ll bet those pigfuckers have a dossier on a certain rabbit living in a public park …
MTR’s Moonbat Poll:
When should we bomb Iran?
1) Before they nuke us.
2) After they nuke us.
The Muslim airport incident was a lead story on NBC News tonight. It’s great that it’s getting national news exposure, especially since the majority of our country just voted against the hate, bigotry, and blunders of the Insane Right. Shining the light of day on cockroaches like Xmas Ghost is the surest way of assuring the extermination of their putrid philosophies and weakminded fearmongering. What kind of fucking cowards are AFRAID OF PEOPLE OF A DIFFERENT RELIGION PRAYING IN PUBLIC? Very small minded people, that’s who.
31 Ghost, you seem to think that white people never went into those countries and fucked with those people … I suggest you read some history.
35 ROGER RABBIT POLL
When should lying welshers go swimming in Puget Sound wearing cement flippers?
[ ] 1. Before they refuse to pay their gambling debts.
[ ] 2. After they refuse to pay their gambling debts.
Shut up, Redneck, you pigfucking warmonger. Pay your gambling debt, welsher.
A pound of raw bacon is as close to a real vagina as Redneck will ever get.
Or how about a slab of fresh pig liver.
Redneck spends all his time scratching his crotch since getting trichinosis in his dick.
wow this thread is already up to 43 posts — that’s more than the jihad blog* got today!
* I’m referring to the sucky little anti-American blog that publishes comments like this:
“Congratulations Speaker Pelosi, now let the bombs fall where they may. My prediction: terror attack on domestic soil passenger aircraft within the next six months. Casualties in the 2-300 range. And, unfortunately, maybe that’s just what we need. It’s obvious people don’t remember what happened 5 years ago. Posted by FullContactPolitics at November 8, 2006 10:52 AM”
http://tinyurl.com/ydlfwu
David Goldstein on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Goldstein
What kind of fucking asshole hopes a terrorist strike kills innocent Americans so the GOP will gain at the polls?
44 Hey, Goldy’s a celebrity! Wikipedia links to a Madison Park Times (whatever that is) article about Goldy:
” … Stefan Sharkansky, who runs the conservative blog Sound Politics, said about Goldstein, ‘He’s very passionate about what he believes in, but he tends to put partisanship above accuracy.'”
http://tinyurl.com/yamewp
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Yeah well who else do we know around here who does that, STEFAN? Roger Rabbit is not the only partisan hack living in the Green Lake neighborhood. I oughta know, it takes one to know one.
They should’ve said he runs a “jihad blog” that publishes comments advocating terrorist attacks on airliners as a means of getting people to vote Republican …
Yes, I know he didn’t write that comment — some unpatriotic, America-hating, traitor calling himself “FullContactPolitics” did — but we all know who regularly reads HorsesAss to get ideas for his own sucky little blog, and I’ve been posting about this anti-American comment for quite some time now, and it’s still up on his blog … guess he only believes in censoring liberals and not jihadists who want to kill Americans to get votes for Republicans …
John Barelli @ 32:
[giving thumbs up]
I have lurked around here for awhile, and I notice that many of the commenters from the right (not to overgeneralize or stereotype) can barely type a coherent sentence. On the other hand, you have Mr. Barelli’s insightful and grammatically impeccable comment, as one example of the level of discourse from the left. And then there is Mr. Rabbit – you might call him obnoxious, but he can even spell trichinosis when he uses it in an insult. I, for one, am proud to be here in your esteemed company!
What kind of fucking asshole hopes a terrorist strike kills innocent Americans so the GOP will gain at the polls?
I second that. What kind of asshole would hope for a terrorist strike. Every repub knows it is a matter of when not if with the dems in power. What does hope have to do about it. What an asshole!!!
Every repub knows it is a matter of when not if with the dems in power.
THIS KIND OF AN ASSHOLE.
AND WHO WAS IN POWER ON 9/11/2001?
RUFUS RUFUS RUFUS.
You have to stop with the hyperbole. Moonbat!s such as Tlazolteotl will misinterpret it.
BTW Tlazolteotl, I have subscribed to the Socialist spelling and thought agenda. I could CARE LESS if I misspell a word or two. I may split an infinitive or create a dangling preposition. I may purposely mix tenses. I could go passive in verb tense when I should be active and slip in a past paticiple.
Who cares. Most of the libtard crap is crap. Sure the Clueless/Yos Lib Bro will always find something wrong with anything I post even it I post:
http://www.heritage.org/Resear ch/NationalSecurity/cda06-09.c fm
Here is the follow-up after the gift that keeps on giving, JF Kerry!
http://www.heritage.org/Resear ch/NationalSecurity/wm1244.cfm
So why should I care about grammar, spelling or such.
Puddy, could you teach us on the right ebonics so the Moonbat!s would have hard time deciphering it?
Clueless/Yos Lib Bro, The gift that keeps giving. Here’s the story of your life:
A guy walks into a bar and orders a triple scotch.
The bartender says, “What’s wrong?”
“I caught my wife in flagrante with my best friend,” says the man.
“That’s just awful. What did you do?”
“Well, I looked my wife right in the eyes and said we were through.”
“What did you tell your best friend?”
“I looked him in the eyes and said, ‘Bad dog!’”
PUBLIC NOTICE
I am back from Hawaii. I am sorry I missed the party last Nov.7 here at HA. I did cause a ruckus at dinner one evening because I wore my PROUD TO BE A LIBERAL shirt to the table. Got attacked. I just smiled and said “So, how does it feel to know your side lost, that America is truly a DEMOCRATic country, that is most positively not CONSERVATIVE?. The retort was the proverbial sound of crickets.
And Stefan, how is Stefan? Did they find need to hospitalize the poor bastard? I am sure he is in a dead panic and has redoubled his efforts to prove voter fraud. My guess is he is now going to expand his operation nationally. Obviously there was voter fraud. No way it could be intelligent, clear thinking Americans casting those votes. Fuck you, Stefan.
And remember, I predicted this blue wave months ago. We took our damn country back.
Funny how that works.
It is good to be back.
I missed you, bunny. Here are some virtual carrots for you. Then go shit on Stefans front porch.
53 The wingnuts who patronize Stefan’s pathetic little blog are reduced to hoping a terrorist attack will revive their political fortunes:
“Congratulations Speaker Pelosi, now let the bombs fall where they may. My prediction: terror attack on domestic soil passenger aircraft within the next six months. Casualties in the 2-300 range. And, unfortunately, maybe that’s just what we need. It’s obvious people don’t remember what happened 5 years ago. Posted by FullContactPolitics at November 8, 2006 10:52 AM”
http://tinyurl.com/ydlfwu
48 Tlazolteotl says: … I notice that many of the commenters from the right (not to overgeneralize or stereotype) can barely type a coherent sentence.”
It’s even worse than that … some can’t spell “to” and “of” correctly! Home schooling is failing …
Q: How can you tell you’re at a wingnut party?
A: They’re celebrating Junior’s third-grade graduation and 29th birthday on the same day.
53 Gee thanks! I LOVE CARROTS!!! YUMMY!!! (crunching noises) pflrrrrrrrt!-plop …
I can turn biomass into bioenergy in 1.2 seconds …
51 Mike Webb SUCKS says: … will always find something wrong with anything I post even it I post … ” 11/21/2006 at 9:55 pm
See what I mean? These fucktards can’t spell big words like “if.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....34664.html
Here’ one black guy’s opinion:
A Couple of “N Words” Walk into a Comedy Club (32 comments )
So, Michael Richards gets heckled, has a meltdown, calls some guys niggers, gives a detailing of a forked-based lynching (?), then gets the public flogging he deserves as he crawls around looking for absolution.
And that’s all as it should be.
But a query: what exactly do you call a couple of black guys who go to a public place where people paid money to enjoy themselves and who then begin to yell and scream at the person on stage who is trying to do his job?
A Couple of “N Words” Walk into a Comedy Club
“So, Michael Richards gets heckled, has a meltdown, calls some guys niggers, gives a detailing of a forked-based lynching (?), then gets the public flogging he deserves as he crawls around looking for absolution.
And that’s all as it should be.
But a query: what exactly do you call a couple of black guys who go to a public place where people paid money to enjoy themselves and who then begin to yell and scream at the person on stage who is trying to do his job?”
My Left Foot: In case you missed the local election news while in Hawaii, it may please you to know the Democrats picked up half a dozen seats in each house of the state legislature.
And both houses of the Montana legislature went Democratic, so, with a Democratic governor and 2 Democratic senators, Montana is now totally blue.
But wait! It gets even worse for the fucktards! Democrats realized a net gain of nearly 300 seats in state legislatures last week. Can you say “redistricting?”
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My Left Foot: In case you missed it, Newsweek columnist Jonathan Alter and no less a conservative luminary than Pat Buchanan say last week’s election was THE END OF THE CONSERVATIVE ERA:
“By Jonathan Alter
“Newsweek
“Nov. 20, 2006 issue – The Category 4 political hurricane of 2006 was more than a referendum on an unpopular war and president: it signals the end of the conservative tide that began rising 40 years ago ….
“Pat Buchanan and I rarely agree, but he rightly points out that the election marked the exhaustion of the movement that Barry Goldwater launched with his 1964 campaign. The intellectual vitality and coherence that once characterized modern conservatism have been shattered.
“Karl Rove is still arguing that the hot issues of this election … are only ‘transitory.’ He’s ignoring deep fissures in his party. Neocons have been discredited and theocons dispirited. Libertarians feel betrayed …. In the Schiavo case, … Republicans drove a wedge through their own ranks. Same with immigration …. Most important, … the GOP’s big tent … contained none of the hope and optimism essential to success in American politics. Fear failed.
“It failed among the young (18 to 29), who were evenly divided four years ago, but this time gave the Democrats a 20-point edge. It failed among Hispanics, who favored Democrats by 69 to 30 percent. And it even failed among white soccer moms and office-park dads, who turned the American suburbs an unrecognizable shade of blue. The 49-state GOP landslides of 1972 and 1984 are now distant memories ….
“To recover, conservatives plan to return to what they call the ‘core principles’ of small government and lower taxes. But there’s a reason they abandoned budget balancing: it’s a loser politically. There just aren’t many votes in it, and that’s why Republicans didn’t cut spending.
“People want the government to deliver for them. Without earmarks — which will now flow to … Democrats — and the protection-racket money they got from selling out to lobbyists, Republicans might have lost an additional 20 seats. More than two dozen GOP incumbents won by six points or less and are vulnerable next time.
“Their peril has its origins in Bush’s highly divisive effort to intensify the conservative movement instead of governing from the center. After the razor-thin 2000 election, he listened to shortsighted advice from pollster Matthew Dowd that ‘swing’ voters were extinct and success lay in turning out ‘the base.’ But more than one third of American voters identify themselves as independents …. Smart politicians have always known that the G spot of the American body politic is in the middle.
“So the Conservative Era is over ….”
Quoted under Fair Use; for complete article and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/yaatxu
Has anyone besides Alter (and me) noticed that Republicans, as a minority party, can no longer deliver the goods for lobbyists? That means their corporate special interest money will dry up. That they can no longer deliver for constituents? That means votes will dry up. The GOP is truly fucked … TRULY FUCKED!!!
The GOPers have tried to spend this election as “normal” mid-term losses. Wrong. As I pointed out in a previous thread, the GOP went into this election with a 4.5 million vote advantage from voter challenges, vote suppression, dirty tricks, and outright cheating. It wasn’t enough to overcome the tsunami of voter discontent. They also had a huge redistricting advantage. That wasn’t enough either.
In other words, if the GOP had competed on a level playing field, they wouldn’t have lost 30-odd seats in the House — it would have been more like 70 or 80.
And going into the 2008 election, they have TWICE as many incumbent Senators up for re-election as the Democrats. The math, plus a careful analysis of where those seats are, argues for the Democrats picking up another half-dozen Senate seats in the next election cycle to further cement their Senate majority. And there will be a ton of vulnerable Republican congressmen in 2008.
Sure, the Democrats have to be careful. They have to govern responsibility. They have to be responsive to the public’s needs. But Democrats are good at those things — that’s why they were the majority party for most of the last 75 years. And the Republicans have demonstrated, vividly and unforgettably, that they either can’t or won’t govern wisely and responsibly. They’ve proved to the American people that they’re thieves, liars, and hypocrites.
Sayonara, wingnuts … don’t let the door hit your ass on your way back to your planet of origin. The alien invasion, the war of the worlds, is over. The humans won, the alien pigfuckers lost.
erratum
should read: The GOPers have tried to spin this election …
damn it’s hard to type with furry paws …
wow this thread is already up to 65 posts — that’s more than the sucky little jihad blog gets in a month!
headless your racist jokes are disgusting, fuck you
I just disowned headless lucy
LEST WE FORGET …
This Newsweek column by Alter is almost a year old, but it worth posting again to remind us what we won last week, and what the stakes are in the next two years.
“Bush’s Snoopgate
“The president was so desperate to kill The New York Times’ eavesdropping story, he summoned the paper’s editor and publisher to the Oval Office. But it wasn’t just out of concern about national security.
“By Jonathan Alter
“Newsweek
“Dec. 19, 2005 – Finally we have a Washington scandal that goes beyond sex, corruption and political intrigue to big issues like security versus liberty and the reasonable bounds of presidential power. President Bush came out swinging on Snoopgate — he made it seem as if those who didn’t agree with him wanted to leave us vulnerable to Al Qaeda — but it will not work. We’re seeing clearly now that Bush thought 9/11 gave him license to act like a dictator ….
“No wonder Bush was so desperate that The New York Times not publish its story on the National Security Agency eavesdropping on American citizens without a warrant, in what lawyers outside the administration say is a clear violation of the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. I learned … that on Dec. 6, Bush summoned Times publisher Arthur Sulzberger and executive editor Bill Keller to the Oval Office in a futile attempt to talk them out of running the story … one can only imagine the president’s desperation.
“The problem was not that the disclosures would compromise national security, as Bush claimed at his press conference … there is simply no evidence, or even reasonable presumption, that this is so. And rather than the leaking being a ‘shameful act,’ it was the work of a patriot inside the government who was trying to stop a presidential power grab.
“No, Bush was desperate to keep the Times from running this important story — which the paper had already inexplicably held for a year — because he knew that it would reveal him as a law-breaker. He insists he had ‘legal authority derived from the Constitution and congressional resolution authorizing force.’ But the Constitution explicitly requires the president to obey the law. And the post 9/11 congressional resolution authorizing ‘all necessary force’ in fighting terrorism was made in clear reference to military intervention. It did not scrap the Constitution and allow the president to do whatever he pleased … in the name of fighting terrorism. …
“This will all play out eventually in congressional committees and in the United States Supreme Court. If the Democrats regain control of Congress, there may even be articles of impeachment introduced. Similar abuse of power was part of the impeachment charge brought against Richard Nixon in 1974. …
” … [T]he president knew publication would cause him great embarrassment and trouble for the rest of his presidency. It was for that reason — and less out of genuine concern about national security — that George W. Bush tried so hard to kill the New York Times story.”
Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info, see http://tinyurl.com/bhqdq
Roger Rabbit Commentary: You all know what the wingnut position is: The big story is stopping terrorism, not quibbling over technical violations of the Constitution or federal law. They might have had a point IF the Bushies were doing an effective job of fighting terrorism. But that argument doesn’t work for them, given how badly they’ve botched the war on terrorism. The best defense they have going for them is that they’re so fucking incompetent they did only limited damage to our rights.
To prove I’m a fair and balanced bunny, I’m gonna give a wingnut columnist some equal space here. A guy named Rich Tucker disputes Alter’s assessment this election was the death knell of conservatism. Tucker does this by spinning the new Democratic majority as “conservative” (and, in the same breath, “hypocritical”) because they want to do something about the alternative minimum tax, which is increasing hitting the middle class. Then Tucker says,
“Businessweek adds that the AMT was originally ‘aimed at 155 people.’ That’s what’s truly ridiculous. Just as lawmakers shouldn’t pass earmarks aimed at helping a particular small group, they shouldn’t pass tax bills aimed at punishing a particular small group, either.”
http://tinyurl.com/tpug4
No — I’ll tell you what’s ridiculous … the AMT was passed to keep extremely rich people from using tax loopholes to PAY NO TAX, none whatsoever. And Tucker calls that “punishing” those rich tax dodgers? Making them pay something, more than zero, is punitive? Give me a fucking break.
No wonder the wingnuts are discredited and voters are leaving them in droves. If Tucker is representative of the conservative intelligentsia, then the rot set in long ago and all that happened last week is that the hull planks caved in and the sea water rushed into the bilge and their rotted ship sank.
increasingly, not increasing
Ghostly,
Yes, JB responded to this, but I have to add, given that you claim to know what dhimmi means, that’s an incredibly ignorant statement to make. So, you know what dhimmi means, but you don’t know what salat means?
A very good friend of mine once defined a bigot as someone who is ignorant of his own ignorance. You’ve managed to take it a step further: having acquired a pittance of knowledge, you imagine that you possess vast wealth.
Somehow, merely labelling you a bigot seems inadequate, for, surely, you should have known better.
So now you get arrested, handcuffed, and frog marched off a plane in this country for praying in public.
How emblematic of the Bush presidency. How ironic … how China-like. In Minneapolis, as in Peking, people get hauled away by the police for praying in public.
Perhaps this incident, more than any other, is what conservatives will be remembered for.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15846961/
This story doesn’t give all the facts. The Secret Service was ACTUALLY busy trying to keep one of the drunk Bush twins from getting to the bar – so he missed the thief grabbing her purse. TOO FUNNY!
Roger Rabbit says:
So now you get arrested, handcuffed, and frog marched off a plane in this country for praying in public.
How emblematic of the Bush presidency. How ironic … how China-like. In Minneapolis, as in Peking, people get hauled away by the police for praying in public.
Perhaps this incident, more than any other, is what conservatives will be remembered for.
Where did this happen furball. I don’t remember the arrest or the handcuffs!
So after the election Furball displays some civic pride and disowns lucy? Where was your written voice September 2005 for Puddy and PacMan?
Your disownment seems to be “shallow, hal”!
Get the new book, RUSH TO JUDGEMENT: my life story, by Roger Rabbit.
It is kinda tough for Muslim Imams not to pray before boarding a plane. Muslims pray 6 times a day on their knees facing Mecca.
That said, 6 of them together would scare most other passengers. That’s the world we live in now and identity matters.
You didn’t even read my link, did you? You’re pretentions to absolute truth are no more palatable than Jerry Falwell’s.
…and, sad to say, Roger, MTR tells a joke better than you do.
MWS: The pious self-righteousness is getting to thick around here.
You want to hear racist jokes? Listen to Redd Foxx.
From previous posts you seem to Biblicly based. Now you are straying from God’s commands?
Lucy, Redd Foxx was funny. You are a racist jerk. Glad to see Furball finally wake up.
Looks like the Faux News Corp moral majority ain’t so moral after all. They got outed for trying to pay off the Simpson victims. Hush money they refused. Is there no low to which the Faux News Corp won’t go?
Rt=Stupid @83:
That’s like asking if there is a difference between Rupert Murdoch and Conrad Black, isn’t it?
To both questions, I guess we probably have to answer: No.
re 82: You are a self-righteous moron. All you need is a damaging label to fling about and you are off to the races — so to speak.
77 Praying before getting on a plane makes perfect sense to me, especially when pilots can’t tell a taxi apron from a runway.
Lucy — if you post racist jokes on a liberal blog, you’re gonna get dissed. Did you expect anything else?
79 I’m not a fucking comedian, and don’t claim to be one. I’m here to kick wingnut ass, not make funny with them. Wanna know what’s funny? I’ll tell you what’s funny … funny is Mr. Cynical getting his fingers caught in the rollers of his BIAW washing machine!
82 MWS: Butt out. This is a family matter, and none of your business.
re 87: Every “racist” joke I’ve ever told on this blog was told to me by a black person. If you give the “N” word this kind of power, then you have given a tool to browbeat innocent people who, under stress, may have said the wrong thing.
What if two white hecklers caused Eddie Murphy to call them “Honkies”? Would there be this uproar?
Tempest in a teapot.
funny is Mr. Cynical getting his fingers caught in the rollers of his BIAW washing machine!
I DON’T SEE THAT BIAW KLOWN ANYMORE. NOT EVEN AT (UN)SP. GOOD! MAYBE HE’S BUSY PLOTTING DINO ROSSI’S NEXT FAILURE IN 2008 WITH TOM MCCABE.
MWS at 82: Gee, which of the Gods commands are you referring to? The ones followed by Abraham (fathered the ancestor of the Arab race out of wedlock), Soloman (multiple wives and concubines), David (multiple wives and concubines, but had his friend killed to conceal his adultery with his wife)? Or do you think the Apostle Paul had the best answer (preferred that no one get married)?
Be carefull, your argument is a very slippery slope. You need to be rather exact and precise when you respond. Also, don’t confuse Biblical commands with cultural precepts. Although the Bible and the Koran are often used to enforce what is essentially a cultural precept, it is often done so in error.
Mike Webb SUCKS said:
Ah, Mr. Sucks. A point, and a couple of questions.
First, on your comments about more than two consenting adults getting married. The Bible specifically authorizes polygamy in several places, although it does say that you still have to treat the first wife decently.
Exodus 21:10 – “If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.”
I never have been able to understand the folks that are so determined to enforce the restrictions in one part of the Old Testament, but are willing to ignore others.
For example, are you wearing clothing made of two (or more) kinds of thread? Gotta love those poly-cotton shirts, but getting stoned to death just to avoid ironing is a bit much. (Leviticus 19:19)
Oh, and my son got a bit mouthy with me the other day, but I really like the kid. Is it ok if I just beat him, or must I put him to death? (Leviticus 20:9 – “For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death”) This doesn’t seem to give me much of a choice.
Oh, and if I am advising my neighbor about selling his daughter into slavery, as authorized by Exodus 21:7, what kind of a price should I tell him he should get for her?
My own understanding of the Bible is that God put certain restrictions on the early Hebrews and gave them certain rules because of where they were in their spiritual path at the time, just as I put restrictions on my son when he was very young that no longer apply.
For example, stoning a person to death is painful and cruel, but far less so than the other methods of execution used at the time. I belive that God would have preferred to tell the Hebrews (a semi-civilized batch of nomads at the time) not to execute anyone, but He knew that the people simply would not have listened to that, and trusted that as we became more civilized, we would be able to read the rules he gave us and understand them for what they were.
But, if you want to continue reading them literally, you’d better get rid of those poly-cotton shirts.
john and roger…….a bigot? oh please. sticks and stones from you two.
it’s called today’s reality …and you two need a check.
when was the last time you saw any other religion [obviously] praying before they got on a plane en mass? hmmmm?
and you have never lived in the muddle east and you absolutely don’t know what in the hell you are talking about.
are there not plenty of muslim countries for these people [that think the rest of us are unclean and vile] to live in? like their own????? uh huh……yes there are. the world has changed and muslims and america just don’t go together. but i hear that they need alot more murdering [religion of peace my ass] muslims in africa because it is just taking too damn long to kill off everyone they disagree with.
you two really need to do some growing up.
as for why there aren’t many conservatives posting here? it’s an echo chamber. the election is over….and so, i think, is goldy’s “run”……..
91 I saw Mr. C posting on the jihad blog a few days ago, so Mrs. C apparently hasn’t murdered and dismembered him yet. I’ve always thought he’d be next, after Captain Rolf.
94 yeah, you’re a bigot, and you don’t even know it. how sad
I see you need remedial Bible classes. Call Puddy. He knows his Bible.
Uhhh… The last time I saw a group of nuns getting on a plane. That would be about a year ago.
Lived, no. Spent a lot of time there? Yes. Bahrain, Kuwait, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates.
In Kuwait there is a really good place for burgers, but I really enjoyed the local food, but if you eat in local places, you have to remember to eat using only your right hand.
Dubai has a good museum and an excellent public library with many books in English. Qatar has a cultural center that has information about Islam for non-muslims. Very interesting.
I like the schwarma (local type of sandwich with a yoghurt based sauce) stands in Lebanon. They usually had a football (soccer) game on a small b&w tv with a bunch of folks shouting at the game.
Essentially, I’ve spent a lot of time in the Middle East, and actually went out among the people and learned something about the culture.
Have you?
john…yes and it was years ago.now i have a question for you…….
when was the last time you saw NUNS fly airplanes into buildings killing 3,000 innocent people?
so….you work for an oil company???
and roger….a bigot? really? and i don’t even know it huh? this coming from the “person” that calls every republican an idiot. who calls people rednecks? questions everyone’s sexuality and mental health.THAT roger????
how interesting.
i am not a bigot…i am biased…..based on reality and experience. when muslims change the BS they keep telling everyone and join the human race[and leave jim jones land behind] i will be more than happy to review my views…..but until they stop murdering innocents and putting women into sexual slavery then they can go somewhere else.
you fools in seattle that have never been anywhere or done anything are living in a vapid and shallow little hole…….
seattle…..come and visit and have one lord chamberlain moment after another.
and BTW….the muslim fanatics are counting on you being this stupid and self loathing.
christmasghost said:
When was the last time you saw Imams fly airplanes into buildings? If it’s just about the religion, then any Christian driving a rental truck near a government building is also suspect.
(No, I don’t think Mr. McVey was actually Christian, but he did claim to be. Just as I don’t see the folks who were willing to ignore many of the precepts of Islam and kill thousands of innocent people as being Muslim, even though they claimed to be.)
The terrorists go to great lengths to avoid attention. Someone openly praying is not the person we need to worry about. The person we need to worry about is the person that blends in to the crowd so that nobody notices him or her. Someone like Richard Reid, that looks like a scruffy tourist with a British accent.
And no, I do not work for an oil company. I spent 21 years on active duty with the Navy.
Attaboy Roger Rabbit…call ’em bigots whenever they disagrees wit ya. And be sure to call ’em bigots when they point out my impeachmentment and many cases of bribery and perjury.. Anybody questions ol’ Alcee, I can count on Roger Rabbit to call ’em bigots.. Thanks Roger….you stupid honky!
good try john but they had their own “imam” on call that helped direct them. told them how to fit in and still get into paradise. i don’t think he planned [or cared for that matter] that they would drink and see strippers but hey, in a religion that is this hypocritical anything goes. and yes…before you ask…the far right christians are ALMOST as bad. i say almost because they aren’t murdering people right and left anymore. they EVOLVED. perhaps that’s really what this is about with the muslim “religion”…..they are far behind everyone else and it will just take time.
on the other hand i listen to alot of people like you telling everyone they can how swell the muslim religion is when in reality they would kill you out of hand in a moment.
it’s lord chamberlain all over again.
you may have visited the middle east but they obviously didn’t give you the real tour. and you know as well as i do that you wouldn’t be allowed in anything important anyway. come on…..you are an infidel. grok the fullness of it.
your arguments for the religion of “peace” [what a load of crap!] are specious at best. and at worst they sound alot like the aplogists for hitler.
maybe next time you want to visit some place new it should be dachau…..maybe you will have an enlightening moment. who knows? anythings possible…….
and these same people [the islamofascists] are the same people that hitler just adored…
it’s a thinker………
Congratulations, Christmasghost. You’ve managed to become the very thing you claim to despise.