It’s all over the news wires… one of the most intriguing political mysteries of the last half century may have finally been solved:
A former FBI official claims he was “Deep Throat,” the long-anonymous source who leaked secrets about President Nixon’s Watergate coverup to The Washington Post, Vanity Fair reported Tuesday.
W. Mark Felt, 91, who was second-in-command at the FBI in the early 1970s, kept the secret even from his family until 2002, when he confided to a friend that he had been Post reporter Bob Woodward’s source, the magazine said.
“I’m the guy they used to call Deep Throat,” he told lawyer John D. O’Connor, the author of the Vanity Fair article, the magazine said in a news release.
Still waiting for confirmation from Woodward and Bernstein.
UPDATE:
The Washington Post has confirmed that Felt is indeed Deep Throat.
Berstein has stated that he is sticking by his agreement that he won’t comment until Deepthroat’s death.
Timothy Noah over at Slate has a lot of good articles on Deepthroat, and he has believed it was either Mark Felt or Fred Fielding; looks like he got it right.
You heard it from me first!
Patrick @2,
Yes I did. But only just barely.
If this is the guy…what does it matter? (Other than giving Cable TV something more to talk about).
PS: Haven’t seen it reported on FOXNEWS yet…hmmmmm wonder why.
Reading the Vanity Fair article, it looks like Woodward is going to stick to his agreement not to comment until after “Deep Throat” is dead — sounds like he’s concerned that Felt’s kids are the ones pushing him to come out now, and Woodward isn’t comfortable that Felt is competent to make that kind of decision.
And I have to say I don’t think much of how Felt’s kids come across in this — the argument they finally persuade their father with is getting money for the grandkids. Ick.
Too bad we don’t have journalists seeking a good inside source and story on the Governor’s race. Oh yeah, we have some guy working out of his house who is doing this sort of. But we need a “deep throat” to give us more of the truth.
Nicole way?
’cause naturally the election troubles are morally and legally equivalent to watergate, right?
Lesssee … in one case, people broke into the other parties election headquarters to find out what they were up to so that thier party could combat it more effectively and win the election.
In the other case, people did not care about the actual election, they just fabricated votes until thier candidate won and hid behind bureaucratic stupidity as a defense for not righting the wrong perpetuated on society. Yeah, you are right windie, they are not equivalent. Watergate was not as important.
Reply to 5
If Mark Felt is indeed “Deep Throat” this country owes him far more than can ever be paid in mere money or gratitude. He deserves a statue in Lafayette Park.
Reply to 8
“they just fabricated votes until thier candidate won”
I’m calling “bullshit” on that one, you fucking liar.
@8
you, sir, are insane. If watergate were just a breakin, and more importantly if there were any actual evidence that wasn’t from your fevered imagination, then maybe you’d be right.
I’m still going with insane.
Itsasquak@ 9 Republicans have seemingly devolved into propaganda machines without any connection to reality. Bush himself defined propaganda as repeating something until people believed it to be true.
But in the reality based world, there is no evidence of fraud. Let me state this in a way that the trolls can understand. There is no evidece of fraud. There is no evidece of fraud. There is no evidece of fraud. There is no evidece of fraud.
“Bush himself defined propaganda as repeating something until people believed it to be true.”
Are you sure that wasn’t Goebbels?
Nindid@12,
There may be no “evidece” of fraud, but there sure is evidence of fraud. Dead people voting, felons and illegal aliens too. Throw in Nicole Way falsifying the certification report and you got fraud.
The only propaganda is the Democrat media machine in this town repeating the lie that there is no fraud.
Well at least one thing is clear. With his rather high pitched voice, we know Goldy wasn’t “Deep Throat”.
blackboxvoting.org gives the whole story on how Reps. stole the 2004 election. Reps in WA are pissed because they tried the same thing but you’re too inept to pull it off. Reps in WA are double losers—almost triple losers.
I love it … a bunch of dipshit neophites that probably were not even born when watergate happened and only know what they were told by thier liberal teachers in high school about it trying to tell me that republicans are a propaganda machine and that watergate was really really bad but what happened here was ok.
I flip your bullshit back in your face snot nose. Watergate was a break-in that was politically motivated and the fallout was because it was dirty politics. What happened here was a conspiracy to steal an election outright as your buddy “Nixon” Handy has basically admitted to this day. Oh, sorry, suppose you did not get the memo … but he sent emails telling KC how to pull the wool over the public and the judge in the court case.
So Itsasquak, you going to tell us ‘young’uns’ how Mccarthyism is a shuck too, and it was all a plot to discredit a good man by the evil liberals, and the Army trial never happened?
It’s the 1% of the population that owns 1/3 of all the wealth in this country that are the mutual enemy of the other 99%. Until the 99% understand this they will always be at each others’ throats. Did you hear the one about Boeing and Airbus suing each other because they each claim that the other CO>. is the unfair recipient of too much Corporate Welfare from their client states? Doesn’t that sink in ? Are all right wingers complete idiots?
Nice windie … you cant dispute that the dems own witness just let the cat out of the bag, so in typical liberal fashion, you try to change the arguement. Sorry, not biting this time … too busy helping Dino pack for the governors office.
Woodward just confirmed Deep Throat’s identity as Felt…I had thought it was Al “I am in control” Haig…called that one wrong.
@20
I could dispute, but, y’know, you just wouldn’t listen anyways. You seem to be pretty much decided.
Instead its much more satisfying slamming on the inanity of your original post
Reply to 14
The only “fraud” in this town is you and your right-wing cohorts.
Reply to 17
There was no “conspiracy to steal an election,” jackass! BTW dumb shit, Watergate was a felony, not “dirty politics.” There was also a burglary of Daniel Ellsburg’s psychiatrist’s office, maybe you overlooked that because you were too young and snot-nosed to remember. Watergate may have been a third-rate burglary, but Nixon committed first-degree perjury and obstruction of justice, and the Ellsburg burglary was a major invasion of an individual’s privacy and constitutional rights. This was the GOVERNMENT
breaking into offices to steal private medical records in order to retaliate against the person for telling the truth about a corrupt administration. I’ll bet if someone broke into your home to steal your private information to use for political retaliation, you wouldn’t call it a “dirty trick,” you’d put a bullet in their head. Wouldn’t you?
Comment on 20
“too busy helping Dino pack for the governors office”
No need to rush — you’ve got forever. The only way Rossi will ever see the governor’s office is as a tourist.
Windie@18,
No, But go read up on Project Venona. Some of the people he accused really WERE spies.
“The only way Rossi will ever see the governor’s office is as a tourist.”
Nope I heard he applied for the janitor’s job there – he’s so desperate to get in. But breaking news is they denied him a job because he lied on his application. Seems he still has trouble telling the truth about the fact that he’s a real estate agent, not a broker !!!
@27
‘s all good, if not my point.
Denying watergate is like denying mccarthy. THey’re both insane revisionism that certain right wing pundits like to spew out whenever they can.
—>Whether or not some of them were actually guilty doesn’t excuse the mans excesses.
It is one thing to commit felonies when the dirty tricks weren’t working as well as they had been, and there were many such tactics used by the CREEP to facilitate the elimination of “enemies.” Mulitple felonies were just the extension of the agenda.
I think the issue was not who Deep Throat was, as much as who might it have been, and now to know who it wasn’t. It is a sad commentary on the US that there is a direct connection between various members of the Eisenhower/Nixon regimes and the current Bush Administration. Many of those connecting links are not exactly of the sort one would consider as positive, as they represent the never ending power of the military/intelligence apparatus and industries.
No, no, this is all a whitewash, a smokescreen. Deep Throat was actually Betsy Jobs and Arlene Lorenzo.
@29,
McCarthy may have been crazy, but ignoring the fact that there were communist spies steealing our mos tsensitive secrets is reckless at best.
The VENONA files are most famous for exposing Julius (code named LIBERAL) and Ethel Rosenberg and help give indisputable evidence of their involvement with the Soviet spy ring.
The first of six public releases of translated VENONA messages was made in July 1995 and included 49 messages about the Soviet’s efforts to gain information on the U.S. atomic bomb research and the Manhattan Project. Over the course of five more releases, all of the approximately 3,000 VENONA translations were made public.
Funny, the rosenburg trial had nothing to do with McCarthy (for one thing, it was an actual trial, not a senate-based dog ‘n pony show). Anwyays, I’m sure that you’re using the fact that a few people were guilty to dodge the fact that so many people were innocently attacked is just another smokescreen.
Whether you’re saying that Watergate was just a few dirty tricks and not as bad as the WA election “fraud” in 2004, or saying that because 2 people were spies everyone was, doesnt’ matter. Its the same insane right-wing ‘none of our people have ever been as wrong as the left’ gibbering.
It’s part of the wingo effort to smear all liberals as “traitors” and “enemies” by trying to (falsely) associate them with real traitors and enemies.
It was Karl Rove, he was deep throat. It was all part of a vast right wing conspiracy. You libs crack me up. No problems in the Governors race… hmmm more votes that voters casting them isnt a problem? Please explain that to me. And do not say it isnt part of the process of crediting voters, because it is. You lying, cheating, stealing, pinko, soft ass, sissy, socialist bastards…
Actually the Rosenberg trial and prject Venona proved that indeed there were spies stealing our most sensitive secrets – contrary to popular liberal myth that there were no Soviet Spies and that it was all made up. Once again, when the liberals ran national security, the Soviets were able to get our nuclear secrets like a kid in a candy store.
No, the liberals are all the enemy or traitors, but some are just so damn dumb that they cannot guard national secrets.
Pbj doesn’t think felons can be trusted to tell the truth about who they voted for, yet he takes the word of Soviet spies at face value.
duckshit, peabrainjr,and wrongon…why don’t you move to Idaho where you’d be among your own kind.
Every Republican administratio since Eisenhower (who warned us about what was coming) has conducted covert and illegal military operations and attempted to systematically erode our precious civil liberties. The same civil liberties that allowed you upright and moral hypocrites to launch a TEN YEAR smear campaign against a sitting president at the cost of tens of millions of dollars. All so we can get this lying sack of dooo that pretends to be the leader of our great nation.
History repeats, ignorant ones. Viet Nam, Watergate…it is all coming around. The asswipes running the Republican party are beneath contempt. One of my treasured moments was demonstrating against the trickster at Expo 74. I’ll never get close enough to chimpy to let him know how I feel about his screwing up the future for my kids and grandkids. The lousy liar.
Go on you jerks…get out of here. I mean it!
Comment on 39
You can vicariously egg Dubya’s car by buying Michael Moore’s DVD (Fahrenheit 911) and watching it over and over. The egging is the best part of the movie IMO. Yep, I think Gee-Dub knows what the peasantry thinks of him, alright. That’s why his “public” rallies and town halls are closed to the public. Only GOP party hacks and sycophants are allowed to attend this president’s “public” events.
Have you ever noticed that on a real bad day that John Kerry looks like a bloodhounds scrotum?
That’s better than you look on a real good day, Cyn.
Well, I see on NBC News that Colson, Liddy, etc. are dissing on Felt. Looks like Felt isn’t gonna get the endorsement of the Leavenworth Alumni Association, har har har. :D
Reply to 36
Who said there weren’t “problems” in the governor’s race? We love the way you right wing liars distort things. Hey jackass, the wingos aren’t complaining about “problems” — they’re accusing Democrats of “fraud.” Big difference. Yes there were “problems.” Yes the wingos are fucking liars.
and you have a potty mouth. Need good home training
rujax206 @ 39: “Every Republican administratio since Eisenhower (who warned us about what was coming) has conducted covert and illegal military operations….History repeats, ignorant ones. Viet Nam, Watergate…it is all coming around. The asswipes running the Republican party are beneath contempt.”
…who was that that gave the final go ahead on the Bay of Pigs?
…which administration got us into Vietnam?
…who was responsible for the overthrow of Ngo Dinh Diem?
…so when did Kennedy or LBJ become a Republican?
I’m sorry, saying only Republicans have done illegal acts is truly Mr. Pot complaining about Mr. Kettle, or throwing boulders in your glass house.
In reference to Mr. Cynical at 41
Oh Dear. How many times do I have to tell Mr. C. to leave the dog alone. I just don’t understand why a grown man has to “inspect” the dog that way!!!
Goldy, I still love your Blog, even if I don’t post very often.
Hugs and Kisses
David, I agree Foreman can’t prove the legal definition of fraud, but where did those extra votes come from? I guess dead people voting, felons voting, double voting, and illegal aliens voting doesn’t count for much? The mighty look at the eastern counties proved the problems occurred in democrapic Spokane areas and around WA State University and Yakima city? I guess the lack of an official reconciliation doesn’t count for much? I guess Jenny Durkan asking the other county auditors if they had problems and then them saying they did reconcile before issuing the official certification documents, makes KCEC look bad. Would you admit that?
Pudster
Handy admitted yesterday that anybody voting Absentee could also cast a ballot provisionally at the local precinct and that double vote would not be tracked, counted, checked, or known about. Sound like a no-brainer for Dems then to energize the moveon crowd to double vote…
Reply to 38,
No Patrick/Dr Quest/”N in Seattle”, I take the word of our intelligence services that conducted project Venona. You are the one taking the words of terrorists over those of our own military. The terrorist are trained to make false claims of defamation of Islam in order to get the fanatics fired up – kind of like you do when you make outrageous baseless allegations that Bush is talking about Democrats when he said “people who hate America” when he was talking about the terrorists. Maybe you are feeling the heat?
Jon-
Kennedy was wrong on “Bay of Pigs” and, unlike the chimp…admitted it.
Kennedy was ready to disengage from Viet Nam, and would have if he hadn’t been killed.
LBJ was was ruined by that failed adventure in Southeast Asia and for all the great things he accomplished domesticly (which I was too callow to appreciate at the time), died a broken man haunted by the mess we had gotten into (thanks again Bob McNamara and the baby neo-cons).
I believe that these bootlick corporate shills and hacks that have taken over our Republic are evil intentioned, unpatriotic, cowardly, greedy bastards.
Mark Felt used confidential law enforcement data, the product of an ongoing criminal investigation, to get Richard Nixon out of office. Ever since he rose to national prominence fighting hidden domestic Communists like Alger Hiss, Richard Nixon was anathema to the liberals. Getting Nixon out of office was such a priority that maybe all sins can be forgiven. But there is the little matter of precedent.
Felt is being hailed by liberals as a Hero of Our Time because he actually drove Nixon from office with his abuse of his high position in law enforcement. Can you imagine the reactions these same folk would have had if someone in law enforcement or the Secret Service had leaked information about Bill Clinton during the period when he was being impeached and tried?
peabrainjr-
WTF are you talking about? The wacko right turned over every rock, bribed every source, reported every innuendo every hour of every day and lied lied lied lied lied to nail Clinton. For TEN FREAKING YEARS. Not only did WE pay the freight for that little (BIG) fishing expedition, but Scaife dumped a bajillion samoleans buyin’lipstick for that pig (no, NOT Paula Jones, as if it would have helped,…but metaphorically, the investigation in general).
You want scandal…let’s take a hard look at Neal Bush and the Savings and Loan business. Prescott Bush and Nazi Germany. The chimp, his dad and the Bin Ladens. Then the rest of the Texas Repugs (esp. the “velvet” ones).
Forget the Clintons. There’s no “there” there.
Mark Felt, an FBI agent should be in PRISON for being a horse maure filled agent….what a commie and what tragedy he caused…An I don’t mean Nixon’s resignation. I mean the atrocities in SE asian caused by his blatant dereliction of being an FBI agent.l
Duane,
Imagine a world in which you think for yourself and don’t get your talking points from Lush. It’s a wonderful place. Try it some time. When you do, you’ll be taking your first step on the road to the reality-based community, and when you arrive here, we’ll welcome you with open arms.
Reply@53,
No Mr Ru, Clinton lied. When you lie under oath it is called perjury.
“You want scandal…let’s take a hard look at Neal Bush and the Savings and Loan business. Prescott Bush and Nazi Germany. “
Really? How about we look at the Keating Five, those crooked Democrat bastards who took money from Charles Keating the big banker to do his bidding?
And you want to talk about Nazi Germany? How about we delve into Joseph Kennedy who thought Hitler’s extermination of the Jews was a “good thing”. Talk about an antisemite!
Liberals who hail Mr Felt ought not complain if at some point in the future the same tactic is used by an FBI agent to reveal the inner most secrets of a Democrat administration. That is if we ever have one again in my lifetime!
pbj @ 27 and elsewhere “No, But go read up on Project Venona. Some of the people he accused really WERE spies.”
SO what! If you go into a crowded room and fire a shotgun randomly, you are bound to hit a few republicans! That does not make it a good idea.
Lord how the right wing neo con nutzies like to change history.
@58
The Rosenbergs WERE spies. It is the left wing neo commies that want to change history.
pbj, @ 59 Perhaps you can have someone read my post to you. I tried not to use too many big words.
I’ll give pbj a translation:
Sure there were (a few) spies.
But what mccarthy did was like shooting a shotgun into a crowded room. Sure maybe he hit some spies (he didn’t the Rosenbergs had nothing to do with McCarthy) but its not worth the number of innocent people that take buckshot.
You (pbj) are saying, ‘well he got a few spies, so was ok to fire!’
Let me make it even simpler for pbj.
pbj, you are accused of being a NAZI. Someone named you as a NAZI. Now the congressional anti-NAZI court tells you to name names or go to jail. You can’t name names, because you don’t know any NAZIs. The court prepares to throw you in jail, so you quickly name some people. You do not go to jail, but are still blacklisted as a NAZI.
The innocent people you named now have to go to court and face the same dilemma.
Your life is ruined, and so are the innocent people you named.
Thousands of lives are ruined this way.
At the end of it all two real NAZIs are caught.
50 years later some asshole proclaims that it was worth it to ruin those thousands of lives because they caught two NAZIs.
You, pbj, are that asshole.
Pat Buchanan is living up to his reputation as America’s most rabid right winger hater (and bullshitter). He blames the U.S. defeat in Vietnam on Deep Throat, and claims D.T. is responsible for the vain sacrifice of 58,000 men.
Bullshit.
The U.S. lost the Vietnam War because of political meddling in the military conduct of the war, stupid military tactics, and incompetent leadership by the generals.
You don’t have to be a West Point graduate to see what’s wrong with sending infantry to find the enemy by walking around in the jungle until they get shot at.
This lets the enemy choose the time and place of battle, gives him the high ground and best cover, gives him time to dig in and fortify his positions, gives him the element of surprise, allows him to ambush approaching troops, and lets him disengage and withdraw if the battle doesn’t go his way.
What a fucked up way to fight a war.
And Buchanan thinks that was Felt’s fault? Duane (@ 54) you have your head as far up your ass as Buchanan’s is up his.
Memo to Duane — I was THERE … in Vietnam … were you? Nah, you probably weren’t even born you. You don’t know a fucking thing about Vietnam, asshole.
shit-for-brains @ 57
Nixon is anathema to liberals because he was a criminal, idiot! He used the FBI and IRS to harass political opponents. He and the people who worked for him committed so many felonies that over two dozen of his underlings went to PRISON. Nixon himself would have faced multiple felony counts and a probable prison term if Ford hadn’t (wrongly) pre-empted the legal process by misusuing the pardon power to enable the president who nearly brought down our Constitutional democracy to escape justice for his crimes.
The fact you DEFEND these criminals and attack the brave people who stood up to them and brought them to justice says worlds about your own lack of character and bad judgment. You are one sorry-ass excuse for an American. You, sir, are no patriot, you are an unpatriotic piece of dung.
Comment on 58
Peabrain thinks a felon can’t be trusted to testify who he voted for, but believes anything Soviet spies tell him.
Comment on 61
What McCarthy did was wave a blank piece of paper and (falsely) state it had names of spies on it.
Comment on 62
You nailed it, Donna! That’s exactly how it happened. I just wish we could tie up “pbj” and all the other right-wing assholes who think like him, and let all the innocent victims of McCarthyism have them in a room for 10 minutes. To do whatever they want with them.
But we don’t have to. They’re all going to Hell and the Devil will be glad to have them. Hell, they’ve been his employees all their lives; Satan already owns them.
reply@61 @62,
I made no such declaration. I stated that McCarthy was right in some cases. You are the one who extended that to mean his show trials were right. What really pisses you off is that I won’t declare my country always wrong at every turn in the middle of a war. You are a perfect example of why you “useful idiots” will never be allowed to hold the reigns of national security in time of war again.
reply@65,
“He used the FBI and IRS to harass political opponents. He and the people who worked for him committed so many felonies that over two dozen of his underlings went to PRISON.”
Who are you talking about? Clinton?
@66,
ThatPrick thinks the US Military is not trustworthy and he trusts Al Qaeda more than the US Military. I guess no one told him (or he didn’t pay attention) that Amnesty International is a Democrat special interest group.
The top leadership of Amnesty International USA, which unleashed a blistering attack last week on the Bush administration’s handling of war detainees, contributed the maximum $2,000 to Sen. John Kerry’s presidential campaign.
Federal Election Commission records show that William F. Schulz, executive director of Amnesty USA, contributed $2,000 to Mr. Kerry’s campaign last year. Mr. Schulz also has contributed $1,000 to the 2006 campaign of Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, Massachusetts Democrat.
Also, Joe W. “Chip” Pitts III, board chairman of Amnesty International USA, gave the maximum $2,000 allowed by federal law to John Kerry for President. Mr. Pitts is a lawyer and entrepreneur who advises the American Civil Liberties Union.
reply@65,
Patrick you need to take your meds you moron. I was just as glad as anyone to see Nixon get kicked out.
How dare you say I am not patriotic. You sir are the flag burning piece of crap, the one who celebrates dead American and ideologically associates with those who call 911 victims “little eichmans”. You are also a hypocrit. When Americ is down, we can expect Patrick to give her a good kick.
I wonder if the jihad of the left is going to go after Horsey for today’s editorial cartoon at the Seattle PI. He has Nixon in Heaven.
I wouldn’t have put him there.
It is still interesting how we hear the liberals excuse FDR for locking up American citizens and sending them off to concentration camps and confiscating their land and their homes soley because of their race. But when a Republican president imprisons terrorists at guantanamo (NONE of them American citizens) they get the knickers in a twist.
Simply amazing!
Memo to pbj:
Look up “non sequitur” in the dictionary.
CF@73,
See “Intelligent Liberal”
“Intelligent Liberal”: redundant.
“Intelligent Liberal” :nonsequitor
Tripp, Felt treatment a contrast
The Washington Times, by James Lakely
[Hey Democrats: Enjoy!!! [hehe]]
The former attorney for Clinton scandal whistleblower Linda R. Tripp — who, like “Deep Throat,” exposed White House misdeeds — said his client’s harsh public treatment stands in stark contrast to the veneration of W. Mark Felt, whose aid to the press helped bring down President Nixon. “I think that what happened to Linda Tripp — demonization is too kind a word,”…
wow you’re doing it again… making whitewater equivalent to watergate. It just doesn’t fly, no matter how many times you say it.
Dear pbj:
Please look up “non sequitur” again.
Dear ControlFreek,
That is an apt moniker for a liberal!