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I know, I know. Everyone will tell you nothing of note happens at the conventions. They’re theater and the most newsworthy thing that happened, aside from the weather, is a few supporters of one person yelled things during the vote and someone did something that might be racist.

And so we’re left with the speeches, the videos, and the rest of the theater. But, you know what: the theater is important. The speeches are important. The parties, and especially the presidential candidates, set the tone of the rest of their campaigns at the convention. They lock themselves into policies. They showcase rising stars. They get people paying attention.

Comments

  1. 1

    The problem is, the prime-time “highlighted” speakers are broadcast on the nightly news with sound bites which are most appealing to the “undecided” voters. I yesterday’s case, that is Ann Romney and Chris Christie.

    But listen to the other speaches – the ones you don’t hear unless they are highlighted on Fox News or viewers are watching wall-to-wall coverage on cable TV – are directed toward their base, and appeal to the most divisive and hateful aspects of the Republican Party.

  2. 2

    How many times can the GOP attempt the Etch-A-Sketch strategy? They did it after their thumping at the polls in 2008, Romney has attempted to do it after he secured the nomination, and now the national GOP is trying to do it between it’s daytime speeches and it’s prime-time speeches.

  4. 4

    @3 Even more bad news for Romney, who has promised to replace Fed chief Ben Bernanke:

    Bill Gross, billionaire founder and manager of the world’s largest bond fund, said today “The Federal Reserve has done a ‘masterful’ job of keeping global markets relatively quiet.”

    That sure sounds like an endorsement of Ben Bernanke and current Fed policy by one of the world’s most widely listened-to investment gurus. And it makes Romney look like he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/48826375

  5. 5

    I’m willing to give the peanut thrower the benefit of the doubt and say it was directed at the “librul media” making the behavior still totally unacceptable in human interaction.

    But curious how the “librul” CNN didn’t mention the incident until they were scooped by other sources who confirmed it leading to the Republican Party confirmation that the incident happened.

    Liberal Media indeed.

    And Ann, don’t kid yourself with Mitt working hard to build his fortune. Son of a CEO, High official in the Mormon Church (anyone else been to SLC and seen all the ‘discounts’ they give to LDS members in every business in town?) Son of a Governor. Where did the startup capital to found BAIN come from? Flipping burgers, delivering papers, pumping gas, eating ramen and pinching every penny or a trust fund?

    Meanwhile, I know this isn’t news, but the modern republican party has devolved to appealing to everyone’s inner asshole. Note, tossing Obama out of the bar for expressing an opinion contrary to your own and the very existence of Chris Christie. Is it a wonder that a human being in that crowd thinks throwing food at someone is an acceptable form of protest?

  6. 6

    Meanwhile in Tampa, “The Republican Party is using the Federal Reserve as a piñata ….

    “A Bloomberg news survey of 158 delegates from 10 battleground states show that … 64 percent rated the Fed’s performance as poor and … 63 percent said [the Fed’s independence] was a bad thing ….”

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/48816277

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Click here for photo of the GOP’s secret plans for reinventing the wheel:

    http://decision-making.moshe-online.com/wheel.html

  7. 7

    @5 The GOP ejected the peanut-thrower from the convention, but the damage is done. That image won’t go away.

  8. 8

    # 8: Throwing verbal penuts would have been okay. But throwing physical penuts where national TV cameras are present to record every event, goes off-script.

  9. 9

    So while the prime-time headline speakers at the convention are primping for the cameras, attempting to Etch-A-Sketch the Republican party into a softer, more diverse, and more reasonable party for the “undecided” voters, it’s real leadership is singing a completely different song:

    “It’s the Democrats’ wet dream that [Isaac] hit New Orleans…The Republicans ought to…send bags of money instead of sand. Bags full of money to shore up the levees of New Orleans…The poor of New Orleans will storm the levees and steal the bags, thereby putting themselves at risk for the eventual flooding that will happen once they remove the bags of money. And that way the Republicans can get rid of even more Democrats in Louisiana and shore up the state for themselves.”

    —Rush Limbaugh

  10. 10

    Mitt Romney is like Bush on steroids.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/po.....print=true

    What we need is to give $5 trillion in tax cuts to the Billionaires who back Mitt and deregulate Wall Street Banks so they can crash the economy again?
    + 41,OOO Jan 08
    – 84,OOO FEB 08
    – 95,OOO MAR 08
    -208,OOO APR 08
    -190,OOO MAY 08
    -198,OOO JUNE 08
    -210,OOO JULY 08
    -274,OOO AUG 08
    -432,OOO SEPT 08
    -489,OOO OCT 08
    -803,OOO NOV 08 BUSH DECAY OF J0BS
    -661,OOO DEC 08 BUSH DECAY OF J0BS

    -818,OOO Jan 09 BUSH DECAY OF J0BS
    -724,OOO Feb 09
    -799,OOO Mar 09 – Stimulus passed
    -692,OOO APR 09 – Stimulus still not in effect

  11. 11

    LOL… So a while back some porn “star” came out as a Romney supporter and now the Republican party platform is anti-porn.
    What’s a porn star to do?

  12. 12

    Viewing the GOP Convention attendees, it strikes me that a purer gathering of Ken and Barbie dolls may never have previously assembled.

  13. 13

    Maybe we should throw brutally hot slices of ‘Papa John’ Schnatter’s pizza at Fox News representatives when the Democratic convention rolls around.

    We could yell at them: “This is how we feed Fox News representatives.”

    I’ve seen photos of Schnatter’s estate and I find it hard to believe that he makes enough money from a string of cold cook-it-yourself pizza joints to afford it.

    My Spidey sense tells me there is some money laundering going on.

  15. 15

    What strikes me most is the fact that overt, naked religious bigotry, misogyny and racism are not the disqualifying factors for candidates among voters that we thought they would be by now. Nixon was an overt racist and antisemite, and he was re-elected. George Bush made several rather demeaning comments about the nature of the population of New Orleans, and nobody said a word.

    So the GOP can go back to it’s conservative roots with more visible and an increasing vehemence in it’s language toward minority populations. It is the party of corporate atavism. The party that brought us the war on drugs. The party that is now quite open about it’s stance toward nonwhites, non-protestants and non-christians.

    Thinly disguised eliminationist rhetoric that anyone can see if they only choose to look.

  16. 16

    Anyone else reading that Clint Eastwood might be speaking at RNC on Thursday night? There’s an unattributed speaking slot.

    Lotsa speculation. Eastwood will be in Tampa. Other ideas are it could be Palin or Nancy Reagan.

    When Eastwood cut that voiceover commercial for the Superbowl, I thought he was in the Obama tank. It came across like a de facto Obama ad.

    Nope.

  17. 17

    @ 15


    Thinly disguised eliminationist rhetoric that anyone can see if they only choose to look.


    And uber-silent black helicopters circling that anyone can see if they only choose to look, right, froggy?

  18. 18

    Where did the startup capital to found BAIN come from? Flipping burgers, delivering papers, pumping gas, eating ramen and pinching every penny or a trust fund?

    80’s South FLA drug profits and oligarchs in El Salvador associated with death squads.

    Ryan Grimm via DNow

  19. 19

    Did Ann Romney accomplish her husband’s stated objective last night to “humanise” her husband?

    How would we know?

    discuss —

  21. 21

    How far is too far?

    Apparently Chris Matthews hasn’t yet crossed that line.

    OTOH, this:

    TAMPA, Fla. — Yahoo News has fired Washington bureau chief David Chalian after he was caught on a hot-mic during an online video broadcast today saying that Mitt Romney and his wife, Ann, had no problem with African Americans suffering as a result of Hurricane Isaac, a source familiar with the situation tells POLITICO.

    “They’re not concerned at all. They’re happy to have a party with black people drowning,” Chalian said during the ABC News/Yahoo News webcast, in reference to the fact that the GOP convention in Tampa is taking place as Hurricane Isaac makes landfall on the north Gulf coast.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/.....33662.html

    is too far, even for ABC, which still has Brian Ross on its payroll.

  23. 23

    @13

    That’s because you are an unsuccesful fool and have no business acumen….

    “He has stuff! He must be laundering money!”

    Dumbass.

  24. 24

    @ 20

    So, Romney uses a yacht to schmooze with Top Bundlers.

    Obama does his whoring at the White House:

    Mar 14, 2012 8:07pm
    Obama’s Top Campaign Bundlers Among State Dinner Guests

    All told, 41 of the 364 expected attendees are Obama campaign bundlers, or volunteer fundraisers who give the legal maximum and then gather checks from friends and colleagues who do the same.
    The group attending the dinner tonight is responsible for at least $10.7 million of the roughly $250 million Obama and Democrats have amassed for the election cycle so far.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po.....er-guests/

    Some of those people came up with more than half a million dollars each.

  25. 25

    @ 22

    If you want to be taken seriously, you need to do better than refer to Rolling Stone, which published an insinuation that Bush stole the 2004 election.

    Ohio wasn’t that close.

  26. 26

    I notice hardly any of our trolls are talking about debt these days.. In contrast to some of the unhinged types like Rags at (un)SP..

    How did Dullard get rich trolls?

    By loading huge amounts of debt on their acquisition targets and extracting profits, bonuses and “management fees”.

    Just like Bush did to this country some of what he did in Texas, Dullard is going to do some of what he did at Bain for the benefit of the rich assholes who are dumping millions upon millions into his campaign.

  27. 27

    Lmfao @ rolling stone and dnow….

    And lmfao even harder at the idiots who use those sources.

  28. 28

    Well, it makes sense for Republicans to try to push the current Federal Reserve chairman into retirment. He didn’t follow their strategy – they wanted him to raise interest rates and cripple any economic recovery, but he chose an independent route. If Romney became President, they would want a much more compliant Fed chairman, one who would open the floodgates of easy money so that Romney could claim credit for the “bubble” economy which is then reated. He figures to ride it through the 2016 re-election, and after that he really doesn’t care – it’s up to the next guy to fix the problems.

  30. 30

    If you want to be taken seriously, you need to do better than refer to Rolling Stone,

    This coming from a idiot who said Obama’s daughter resembled a “dude”

    Bob, I have no respect for you. Your ambition in life has clearly been to be an out-of-touch jerk like Dullard..

    See you at the polls in November.. There’s little chance this State’s electoral votes will go to your beloved candidate.

    Idaho awaits you.

  35. 35

    @29

    Yes cholo ylb, I’m such a moron aren’t I…still want to compare tax returns and see who the real moron is? Ya, didn’t think so, chump.

  36. 36

    Any facts or cogent arguments cited by Bob or the asshat?

    No. When it’s not name-calling or racism, it’s non-sequiturs and outliers.

    Example:

    Yes cholo ylb, I’m such a moron aren’t I

    Yes you are a moron little maxee. Your idea of “comic relief” is to call names like the little schoolboy you’ve been all your life.

    Keep it up. You make our point every day.

    What “men”.. See ya at the polls kids.

  37. 37

    @25 Here is Romney Ryan 2012 & Ayn Rand’s path to prosperity. And a few comments about Ryan’s hero worship of piss on you economics.

    “The reason I got involved in public service, by and large, if I had to credit one thinker, one person, it would be Ayn Rand. The fight we are in here, make no mistake about it, is a fight of individualism versus collectivism. ”

    Paul Ryan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_fC6ThGtrE

  39. 39

    @13 & 27

    I do believe Papa John’s makes that kind of money. But based on the private 18 hole golf course on his estate and his statements about how the company can’t afford healthcare for workers, I know a bit about his business acumen. He’s not the kind of person who contemplates whether almost all of his employees who make minimum wage and tips are quality hires. Doesn’t wonder if a higher starting salary and medical would produce better candidates and encourage longevity thus decreasing training and absentee costs. Doesn’t ever contemplate if he could make life easier for the majority of his employees while affecting his ability to purchase everything he’s ever imagined not one bit.

    He’s the perfect Republican/Capitalist. I got mine by exploiting your labor, Fuck You for hoping for a better life.

  40. 40

    Yahoo News finally exposed for the biased dirtbags that they are.

    Yahoo News’ Washington bureau chief was fired Wednesday after he was caught on a hot mic joking that Republicans are “happy to have a party” while black people drown.
    The comment was made by David Chalian during live coverage of the Republican National Convention in Tampa, and was an apparent reference to the convention getting underway while a tropical storm-turned-hurricane barreled toward the Gulf Coast.
    “They are happy to have a party with black people drowning,” said a voice off-camera, later identified as Chalian, as video of the Romneys played on screen. Other people could be heard laughing at the comment.
    A Yahoo! spokesperson confirmed to FoxNews.com that Chalian was let go, and said the company has apologized to Romney and his staff.
    “David Chalian’s statement was inappropriate and does not represent the views of Yahoo!. He has been terminated effective immediately. We have already reached out to the Romney campaign, and we apologize to Mitt Romney, his staff, their supporters and anyone who was offended,” the spokesperson said in a statement.


    Yahoo had no choice but to fire this biased idiot. It shows how biased the MSM is. Hopefully this moderator of news will never work in the news media again.

  41. 41

    @31–
    Wow. James Carville at least lives in the real world. This poll is astounding.

    That’s a 15-point lead for Romney among independents, 53.4/38.0. Fifteen points. Just to remind everyone, in the D+7 turnout of 2008 in a Democratic wave election, Obama won independents by eight points, 52/44, on his way to a seven-point victory overall. That’s a 23-point shift in this key demographic, way outside the margin of error, and it’s hard to square that with a two-point Obama lead now.

    The I’s will overwhelmingly vote for Romney/Ryan. Team Obama has so many holes in their boat and not enough $$ to fix even half of them. You know what that means.

  42. 42

    Well, this is pretty funny. After last night’s speeches, busses were waiting to take people back to their hotels. Apparently, some sort of snafu caused people to be stuck on the busses without any communication from the drivers as to what the holdup was. On one bus with a Seattle Times reporter was Tim Eyman himself, none to pleased at having to ride like a socialist.

    http://blogs.seattletimes.com/.....tim-eyman/

  43. 43

    @ 37

    That was a Ryan quote, apparently (Google), from 2005 and not 2012.

    If you google that quote you’ll find many articles that reference it.

    Maybe you could try reading this one:

    http://clearysviewpoint.blogsp.....chive.html

    Note the difference between an agreement with some of Marx’ ideals, popular with liberals, and being a Marxist, which is decidedly less popular amongst them (many of the HA commenters excluded, of course).

  44. 44

    Gwen Ifill is upset that she wasn’t selected as a debate moderator.

    I can’t imagine why. Maybe it was her book:

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Brea.....038552501X

    Or maybe it had something to do with this mindset:


    gwen ifillVerified
    ‏@pbsgwen
    One mistake does not change this. @DavidChalian is God’s gift to political journalism. #IStandwithDavid

    Catch a clue, Gwennie?

  45. 45

    @42

    Boarding the second bus back to a Clearwater Beach hotel, I needled Eyman that perhaps better central planning or a beefed up public transit system could have avoided the chaos.

    “Absolutely not!” he shot back, laughing. “What they needed was a total free market – no buses at all and said to everybody find your own way to get to the damn stadium and then everybody would have found their own route to get to the place. It was just too much socialism!”

    In a weird way I sort of agree with him. Had the convention been held somewhere where there was a lot of hotel space near by people could have “found their own way” by walking or bicycling in.

    Had they held the convention somewhere where they had a functioning (socialist) mass transit system people could have made their own way to the convention on their own time schedule.

    Of course buses are beneath Timmy The Failed Initiative Peddler, but either of the above ways of getting around would be preferable to getting stuck on a over crowded bus on someone else’s schedule.

  47. 47

    @45

    I once did work at a Tampa Super Bowl and by the time they signed the contract, could only get a hotel in Clearwater. Tampa has never been set up to host large events but allegedly professional event planners go there. Non-professional event planners do it during prime hurricane season.

    On a related note, after about the fourth drive from the Stadium to my hotel I noticed something on the next trip I counted. There were 16 separate and distinct strip clubs on the drive from my hotel to Tampa without deviating from the direct roads. A drive if under 20 miles. You can’t convince me that it isn’t used as a selling point to the Pervs…er…family values….er…republicans.

  49. 49

    @ 48

    at least they’re not old washed up hippies!

    Not at all a nice way to speak of Carole King, Michael.

  50. 50

    @47

    Never been to Tampa, but I’ve been to other places in Florida. Florida must have the most strip clubs per capita of any state, they’re everywhere.

    Tampa in hurricane season did strike me as an odd place to hold the Republican convention.

  52. 52

    @49
    You must of missed my comment in that thread!

    I’m just joking around and like to poke fun at the baby boomers.

  53. 53

    @ 52

    Nope, read the comments. Was going to post snark about her because it wasn’t a very good video, and then looked into what she’s done, and she’s done a lot. I decided to STFU.

  54. 54

    Carole King’s done a ton of stuff. Yet, here we are with all these problems and few solutions. I think it’s worth questioning wether or not our baby boomer leaders like King really did any good.

  59. 59

    serial conservative, Do you have a problem with Paul Ryan’s hero worship of his Guru Ayn Rand? Did you hear what Paul’s brother had to say on the subject? “Paul can still quote every verse out of Ayn Rand,” his brother Tobin said in a 2009 interview.

  60. 60

    @ 59

    I don’t think Ryan’s admiration of some of what Rand had to say means any more that Ryan believes everything Rand said than Barack Obama’s admiration of Derrick Bell means Obama believes everything Bell ever said or wrote.

    I also don’t care any more about what Ryan’s brother has to say than I care about what any of Obama’s half-siblings might have to say. About anything.

    Nice try but you’re showing yourself to be a clown. You’ll do better pushing the magic underwear.

  62. 62

    @57

    “What’s Reddit?” the entire Romney staff while wondering why the Republican brand is deeply unpopular among youth and think “traditional marriage” is a top item of platform winner.

    Hey, where did our base go? Died, slowly but steadily.

  63. 63

    @myself, this came up earlier today vis-a-vis the fired Yahoo news guy. Who’s getting info from Yahoo news in 2012 and can I get their prodigy e-mail address? I wish AOL would send me a new CD-ROM, I lost mine.

  64. 64

    @ 62

    Know what else is deeply unpopular among youth?

    1. Unemployment.
    2. Living at home with parents in your 20s because you can’t find a job.

    Abortion on demand as a social issue isn’t a whole lot more important than traditional marriage, and both pale in comparison to the economy.

    Can’t buy an iPad to worship The One if you can’t find a job.

  65. 65

    re 23: “That’s because you are an unsuccesful fool and have no business acumen….”

    And you know this, how?

    It would only take a little forensic arithmetic to figure this one out. I’m sure he’s got his ass covered, but how much cash do you think a place that sells cold pizza that you have to take home yourself and cook generates?

    You can buy a better cold pizza for less in the grocery store.

  66. 66

    @60

    Dig around in polling and see who youth blame for the economy?

    Hint: it’s the party who’ve voted on abortion for two years repeatedly while voting on a jobs/economic package…er…not even debating one yet.

    Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Good luck with that. Young people, smarter than anyones gives credit.

  67. 67

    re 23: Having been (successfully) in a franchised service-type business from 1983 to 2003, I can tell you that it is not unknown for a franchisee with less than stellar morals to launder drug money through the franchise.

    Don’t be a simpleton. Schnatter’s crooked, and if he dips his toe a little too much in the political waters, he’ll be outed.

  68. 68

    @ 66

    Dig around in polling and see who youth blame for the economy?

    Does it matter? They’re the least informed. They’re the least likely to vote.

    Which is sad, because they’re the ones who will be most burdened by this idiotic spending. Dumbfucks. They deserve what they get.

  70. 70

    @68

    They grow up and in their formative years they’ve learned that republicans are on the wrong side of history on nearly every social issue. It may work for your side for another two cycles and then…

    You can’t cede 75% of the next generation and expect to have a future.

  72. 72

    But listen to the other speaches – the ones you don’t hear unless they are highlighted on Fox News or viewers are watching wall-to-wall coverage on cable TV – are directed toward their base, and appeal to the most divisive and hateful aspects of the Republican Party

    Well on the favorite racist network PMSNBC, none of the black speakers made it on their program. The honest media attacked PMSNBC on their blatant racism.

  73. 73

    Bill Gross, billionaire founder and manager of the world’s largest bond fund, said today “The Federal Reserve has done a ‘masterful’ job of keeping global markets relatively quiet.”

    Bill Gross, who endorsed Ron Paul Roger SENILE Wabbit?

    Really?

  78. 78

    Today David Chalian was fired from Yahoo for his on mike commentary. Gwen Ifill stood up for him.

    Talk about living on the reservation.

    Puddy wonders if Yahoo knew who this idiot was before hiring him as the WA bureau chief. I bet he already has a job on PMSNBC or Current TeeVee.

  79. 79

    Why was Obummer on reddit taking questions, while black people were drowning in Louisiana?

    Oh wait… that was the slobbering libtard msm who claimed that was what the Republicans were doing this week.

  82. 82

    What we need is to give $5 trillion in tax cuts to the Billionaires who back Mitt and deregulate Wall Street Banks so they can crash the economy again?

    And you know this how greg?

    Reading media morons?

    Reading daily kooks?

    Reading thoroughly putrid meatheads?

    Watching No Conservative Blacks on PMSNBC?

    Do tell!

  85. 85

    What a bunch of horsesASS manure from Fraggy @15.

    Republican Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves. DUMMOCRAPTS formed the KKK.

    Republican Dwight Eisenhower wanted a civil rights act while he was in the whitey house. LBJ and JFK were against it.

    Republican Richard Nixon gave us racial quotas and affirmative action.

    When it comes to black issues who will you listen to? Fraggy who talks out of his ASS or Puddy who knows fact after fact after fact.

    Wait for it. Something pithy with no facts will come soon from a moronic lefty!

  86. 86

    Romney Promises To Increase Deficit By $716 Billion

    Not to be outdone by Dubya, who borrowed $700 billion from China to pay for a prescription drug benefit (Medicare Part D) for senior citizens, Romney is promising to spend another $716 billion on Medicare.

    “Romney … has been running television ads attacking Obama for the $716 billion that will be cut from Medicare under the health-care law and promising to restore it … he’d actually increase the cost of Medicare.”

    http://www.businessweek.com/ar.....ghness-gap

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Romney’s not totally stupid. He realizes few politicians ever lost an election by promising to spend even more than his opponent.

  89. 89

    “Romney … has been running television ads attacking Obama for the $716 billion that will be cut from Medicare under the health-care law and promising to restore it … he’d actually increase the cost of Medicare.”

    And he’ll see the savings from rejecting ObummerCare!

    See how easy that is SENILE Wabbit?

  90. 90

    Garrard Beeney, who represented the civil rights groups, presented emails sent to and from Clemmons’ personal account between 2009 and 2011, when he was working on the law. One, from a man named Ed Koziol, used racially charged rhetoric to denounce the idea that poor, black voters might lack transportation or other resources necessary to obtain photo ID. If the legislature offered a reward for identification cards, “it would be like a swarm of bees going after a watermelon,” Koziol wrote.

    http://www.truthdig.com/eartot.....l_20120829

    A vote suppressor with an R next to his name.. R for racist!

  93. 93

    @89,

    Pick up some new material, Rmoney likes to see people mix it up. If you just keep the same BS, you’ll never get that job sucking the shit out of Rmoney’s ass.

    At this rate, you’ll have to settle for trying to suck the shit out of his ass for free; which is all you do now.

  94. 94

    Somebody shoot me in the head. I agree with something I just heard come out of Reverend Al’s mouth.

  96. 96

    puddy has really gone ’round the bend.

    Yeah Puddy stands for principles. What do you stand for rujax? So far nothing comes to mind.

    Enjoy your life on the reservation.

    That’s the big difference in life!

  97. 97

    “You can have Artur Davis, former Democrat, we don’t know what he is now, with that ridiculous speech he gave last night, I call him a political fraud, he is.” – Roland Martin

    The type of token black CNN commentator beloved of rujax!

  98. 98

    Best line of the night from Paul Ryan…

    ‘College Graduates Should Not Have to Live Out Their 20s in Their Childhood Bedrooms, Staring Up at Fading Obama Posters’

  100. 100

    This is the type of person Obummer hates…

    “President Obama’s appalling record on abortion is not just limited to his four votes to deny rights to abortion survivors but spans to his recent heartless refusal to support bans on sex-selection and late-term abortions. These actions fly in the face of mainstream American views and run counter to the President’s first term pre-election talk of finding common ground. Recent polling reveals the majority of Americans support bans on these horrific practices.”

    Ohden: “​I was aborted, and my body discarded…like I didn’t exist.”

    Of course Obummer doesn’t care about this type of action on live children being discarded after being aborted in the last trimester. Maybe that explains some of the HA leftists that post on this blog.

  101. 101

    The job of many liberal journalists these days apparently is to discern veiled Republican racism wherever they can find it – or make it up.

    The Washington Post’s Harold Meyerson, for instance has a tired column today asserting that “today’s Republican Party represents the worst traditions of the South’s dankest backwaters.” Basically opposing tax hikes and greenhouse-gas emission caps show the GOP’s roots in white racism, or something.

    Well when you are in Obummer’s butt and the economy sucks soooooooo bad, you have to make something up to justify your existence.

  102. 102

    96. Puddybud spews:

    puddy has really gone ’round the bend.

    Yeah Puddy stands for principles. What do you stand for rujax? So far nothing comes to mind.

    Enjoy your life on the reservation.

    That’s the big difference in life!

    08/29/2012 at 9:38 pm

    There’s lots and lots and lots of comments here that clearly state what I believe in.

    Fairness.

    Equality.

    Justice…

    …and much more.

    But the puddypussypissypants doesn’t believe in Justice, does he? Nor does he believe in fair play. Or taking care of the less fortunate like his beloved christ ORDERED.

    Reservation.

    The puddypussypissypants is ON IT. The puddypussypissypants is doin’ the will of the massa…with a shuck and a jive and a yasssaboss on his big brown face.

    Carry on brutha. You’ll be the first one cut loose when they’re done using you.

  103. 103

    Nice… NEA doesn’t care about the kids… they care about the union.

    The Daily Caller has obtained an electronic document verifying Factor’s claim. It is available on a website operated by the Department of Labor’s Office of Labor-Management Standards.

    The data is from the Labor Department’s LM-2 form, a disclosure required whenever a union disburses $5,000 or more to an outside entity. In one such 2011 filing, the NEA reported paying Media Matters $100,000 and referred to it as a “political organization.” (RELATED: Complete coverage of Media Matters For America)

    So if the NEA calls the Media Morons a “political organization”, how can Media Morons keep it’s tax-exempt, nonprofit organization status as a “media watchdog”?

    As God said, that which you do in darkness will see the light of day!

  104. 104

    Carry on brutha. You’ll be the first one cut loose when they’re done using you.

    Ummm no they won’t rujax.

    Fairness.

    Equality.

    Justice…

    Where? You missed PMSNBC last night? Not one conservative black speaker was on their show. They talked over their speeches. Yes, that’s real:

    Fairness.

    Equality.

    Justice…

    And you are a joke rujax! You seem to forget, DUMMOCRAPTS smile in your face, then they are back stabbers! They use you. They use you here. They use you come November leap years. Wanna see that list again of black DUMMOCRAPT politicians who got too uppity for their britches so the whitey DUMMOCRAPTS put them in their place…? i.e. none are in politics anymore!

    That’s why they attack conservative blacks so inhumanely, savagely and with such bitter vitriol. They use other blacks (like yourself) to perform their dirty work. They can conveniently say “I didn’t say that, Roland did, Al did, Donna did; not me.” Haven’t you noticed the gutterland of teevee CNN and PMSNBC are the worst offenders of this? Nope cuz yous a dope rujax.

    They know if blacks WOKE UP and smelled the crap sandwich (Col Allen West words) they are being fed by DUMMOCRAPTS, DUMMOCRAPTS will never win another election. That’s why Pelosi and gang are courting latinos for Mexico and south who illegally come to America. She and others know blacks are beginning to see the real light in life, and unlike you reservation dweller, field ni@@a rujax, more and more blacks are leaving the reservation!

    So rujax, stay in your reservation. Puddy fled long ago, free bird, flying like an eagle.

  105. 105

    103. Puddybud spews:

    Nice… NEA doesn’t care about the kids… they care about the union.

    The Daily Caller has obtained an electronic document verifying Factor’s claim. It is available on a website operated by the Department of Labor’s Office of Labor-Management Standards.

    The data is from the Labor Department’s LM-2 form, a disclosure required whenever a union disburses $5,000 or more to an outside entity. In one such 2011 filing, the NEA reported paying Media Matters $100,000 and referred to it as a “political organization.” (RELATED: Complete coverage of Media Matters For America)

    So if the NEA calls the Media Morons a “political organization”, how can Media Morons keep it’s tax-exempt, nonprofit organization status as a “media watchdog”?

    As God said, that which you do in darkness will see the light of day!

    The liar puddypussypissypants know that that was de-bunked, but like his hero “Lyin’ Ryan” the puddypussypissypants trots it out again anyway.

    teh jeeeebus don’ like liars, puddypussypissypants.

  110. 110

    Poor rujax… stuttering again…

    When facts are delivered rujax decomposes! It must be reservation living! headless dorky dorkman lucy posted. Your massa calls you rujax!

  111. 111

    “that that was de-bunked, but like his hero “Lyin’ Ryan””

    Notice rujax has no proof… He trots out useless commentary with no proof and no links. I posted from scribd… the site y’all claimed had damning Romney documents!

  112. 112

    Response to RR on the More Ryan Bump thread, and to others who have posted about the Janesville plant closing.

    From what I gather, the Janesville plant stopped producing SUVs in December, 2008.

    However, the plant stayed open, producing a small number of trucks, into the first few months of the Obama term:

    Full-size sport utility vehicle production has ended at the local General Motors plant, but medium-duty truck production is continuing—not starting—in Janesville.

    And it likely will continue into May, when the lights finally go off in the facility that has been producing vehicles since 1923.

    http://www.therightsphere.com/.....n-in-2009/

    Click on that link and you find another link taking you to GM’s web site, which archived this announcement:

    Two other GM assembly plants in Spring Hill, Tenn. and Janesville, Wis. were also under consideration to build the future small car. Spring Hill will be placed in standby capacity status in Nov. 2009, as announced earlier this month. The plant could be brought online at some point in the future should GM require additional capacity due to increased market demand. Janesville was placed on standby capacity in May 2009 and will remain in that status.


    http://media.gm.com/media/us/e.....lants.html

    Got that, people? GM itself on the record stating the Janesville plant was open until May, 2009.

    Unless there are two GM plants in Janesville, time to STFU about Ryan’s lie.

    Jesus. No wonder Lawrence O’Donnell was so awestruck by Ryan’s performance last night. He had little to criticize.

  113. 113

    But retirees know that Mr. Obama robbed Medicare’s accounts to make ObamaCare’s budget impact look benign. And even if they can’t follow the deliberately convoluted details of phony Beltway bookkeeping, they are learning that Mr. Obama’s Medicare “cuts” are immediate and Mr. Ryan’s reforms won’t apply to anyone over age 55. The Obama campaign won’t give up on Mediscare, but it has been caught unprepared.

    Mr. Ryan has also performed better on the national stage than even many of his supporters anticipated. Even Democrats have had to concede he’s no lightweight and does his homework. He has put a new, youthful face on the Republican Party, and his earnest enthusiasm is a walking refutation of Democratic claims that he’s a Randian radical. He looks and sounds like Janesville.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/.....34390.html

    It was very strange listening to MSNBC last night. O’Donnell, especially, was very conciliatory to Ryan. His biggest complaint was that there were no specifics in Ryan’s speech. I eagerly await the specifics we’ll hear in Joe Biden’s speech next week.

    Ryan plays well with seniors. Seniors seem to understand math, having had a decent education, better than the poorly informed youth that favor Obama.

    Funny thing about that disparity. Seniors vote. Youth……not so much.

    Reversion to the norm upcoming this November. The iPad is so much less cool if you are charging it in your parents’ basement bedroom.

  114. 114

    Uh, oh.

    Here’s a major WI newspaper also stating that the Janesville plant closed in May 2009, not in 2008:


    Since they were shut down in 2009, both the Janesville and Tennessee plants have been on standby status, meaning they were not producing vehicles, but they were not completely shut down.

    http://www.jsonline.com/business/130171578.html

    So, lemme guess: Beginning tonite Ed Schultz will point out that since the Janesville plant was only put on standby status and ‘not completely shut down’, it couldn’t have been shut down under the Obama administration, and therefore Ryan’s still a liar.

    Or if Ed Schultz doesn’t do it, it’s the type of tortured logic a blowhard like self-professed propagandist Roger Rabbit might try.

  115. 115

    Yeah Puddy stands for principles.

    Perhaps the most ridiculous thing puddles has ever written.

    (And, typically, inaccurate)

  116. 116

    Ryan’s still a liar.

    Yes he is! Hunter nails it:

    The stimulus was nothing but “political patronage” and “cronyism”, he bellowed, not mentioning the letters he himself sent requesting those very same stimulus dollars be steered towards his district—letters specifically heralding the stimulative effects they would have.

    He decried Obama’s cruel cuts to Medicare, not mentioning his very own budgetary support of the precise same Medicare changes, and certainly not mentioning his plan to end the program entirely in favor of (partially) subsidized private insurance.

    He hammered Obama for not supporting the “bipartisan deficit commission”, but did not mention that it was Paul Ryan, who served on it, who helped botch the thing so badly that the “commission” could not even reach a conclusion to be supported—because Paul Ryan, among other commission members, would not vote to support it.

    I could go on and on. Krugman has been skewing Ryan for months, if not longer, over the latter’s complete lack of rationality in his budget – numbers that bear no resemblance to either reality or what Ryan purports that they’ll do.

    He’s a flim-flam man, Hunter again:

    Paul Ryan sells his vapid, Randian premises with enough raw horseshit and hucksterism to make even the most crooked car salesman in the country blush. Welcome to the newest incarnation of Republicanism. If it looks a lot like the last version with a new face plastered on it, congratulations

  117. 117

    This just for puddles:

    …the welfare issue, generally speaking, triggers anger in white blue-collar voters that is easily directed toward Democrats. This information comes from senior GOP strategists who have worked both for President Bush and Romney.

    Republican racists, same as it ever was. I’m still waiting for your explanation of how I’m a racist, and your party isn’t.

  118. 118

    But retirees know that Mr. Obama robbed Medicare’s accounts to make ObamaCare’s budget impact look benign.

    Repeating the lie here won’t make it true, either, but I suppose that’s your job.

    Lying asshole.

  119. 119

    He has put a new, youthful face on the Republican Party

    Indeed.

    …his earnest enthusiasm is a walking refutation of Democratic claims that he’s a Randian radical.

    Not even. As above, smoke and mirrors, form without substance.
    As someone else has said, like Newt, Ryan is what a stupid person thinks a smart person sounds like.

  122. 122

    @89 – All I have to say is – What a dope Puffy is. Maybe he should go back to grade school, learn some english and some math.

  123. 123

    @ 118

    No lie to it. Obama pulls the money out of Medicare and justifies it by claiming they’ll get the money back by paying doctors and hospitals less.

    Meanwhile, they undo a similar policy that reduces compensation to doctors each and every time they renew the ‘doc fix’.

    What this should indicate to you is that it’s not feasible to further reduce Medicare payments to doctors and hospitals, particularly as so many of them are already refusing Medicare patients because the reimbursement is so low. The Obamacare premise is that they’ll be able to cut these reimbursements even further.

    It won’t happen, and therefore unless there is a ‘fix’, the $716B hole in the Medicare budget remains. (This would have to be a different ‘fix’ than the ‘doc fix’.)

    Even on MSNBC last night they weren’t calling him a liar. They reverted to ‘OK, on a simple level he’s telling the truth but the reality is that it’s more complicated than that.’. (I actually give MSNBC’s talking heads credit for a pretty fair assessment of what Ryan said. You should check it out.)

    Well, it is complicated.

    But the reality is that because what Obamacare claims will happen WON’T actually happen (wink, wink), Ryan’s not incorrect. He’s just bringing the bad news.

    CBO costs of Obamacare were ‘gamed’ to stay under a trillion. You know that. It’s why the payments are front-loaded and the costs are backloaded. What Obama did with that $716B is just part of the gaming that’s occurred.

    Lib Despair, you’re clearly an intelligent guy. Stop playing the liberal ‘Ryan lies’ line and address the fact that the true costs of Obamacare are hidden by monetary transfers like this. Look at the ‘complications’ MSNBC alluded to last night, post-debate, but didn’t delve into.

    It’s complicated. It’s why the GOP has chosen Ryan to make the case that Obamacare is built on false premises and cost-shifting.

    (I revised paragraph 4 for clarity)

  127. 127

    Lib Despair, you’re clearly an intelligent guy.

    One of the few factually accurate things you’ve ever written here.

    Stop playing the liberal ‘Ryan lies’ line

    Bullshit. Ryan lies. He’s vey very good at it, and a I said above, he is what a dumb person thinks a smart person sounds like.

    Ryan’s budget calls for removing the SAME $700ish Billion dollars as Obama. And that money was Medicare Advantage, an inefficient and far-costlier-than-regular-Medicare HMO based program that didn’t work and was a waste.

    MOREOVER, when the ACA was being hammered out, the Dems wanted a tax on wealthy people to pay for it, and the Republicans howled like little babies and demanded this mechanism, and the Dems (foolishly) compromised and agreed.

    So, just like the hypocrisy of Ryan criticising non-action on the Simpons-Bowles non-report that he voted against, this is more SHAMELESS hypocrisy from Ryan, aimed at non-information voters that he needs to win.

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