State GOPolitburo Chairman Chris Vance is either a liar or a fool… or both. Of course, this isn’t really news to anybody who has followed WA state politics over the past year or so, but it’s worth repeating, especially when he sends out one of those blatantly false press releases like yesterday’s doozy.
In response to the state Dems’ Santa stunt, in which they called attention to the $14.3 million parting gift Safeco is giving outgoing CEO Mike McGavick to kick off his Senate campaign, Vance accused the Dems of hypocrisy:
Maria Cantwell never resigned from Real Networks in 2000, she simply took a “leave of absence.” During 2000, the company paid her $10.5 million in salary and stock options. Cantwell then funded her campaign with this money.
That is a complete and utter load of crap.
The money Cantwell cashed out in 2000 came from the stock options she had vested during her four years working as a Vice President at Real Networks. Early Real Networks employees were granted generous, five-year option schedules with the first fifth vesting after one year, and the rest vesting in six-month increments. Because Real Networks was a tiny, risky startup at the time she joined — whose shares might have eventually been worthless — the strike price on her original option grant was only pennies a share.
Unlike McGavick, Cantwell’s vesting schedule was not accelerated when she left Real Networks, and she wasn’t granted any additional options. Vance’s claim relies on a single line in a 2001 article in The Olympian that clearly misunderstands the nature of these transactions. Option grants are not declared as income until they are exercised and the shares sold. The fact that Cantwell exercised these options in 2000 does not represent compensation for that calendar year, but rather the realization of the capital gains from the options she had previously vested throughout her tenure.
Quite simply, Vance lied. Real Networks most definitely did not pay Cantwell $10.5 million in 2000. She bet four years of her life on a risky startup, and while handsomely rewarded, anybody who has ever worked for Rob Glaser will tell you that she earned her money the hard way.
Clearly, Vance was just trying to deflect attention from the fact that Safeco is giving McGavick $14.3 million during an election year… money that he is then free to spend on his own campaign in unlimited quantities. McGavick, who has represented the insurance industry for years, is essentially being paid to run for office, and if elected would surely represent the industry’s interests over that of ordinary Washington citizens.
But I also want to point out to my friends in the media, that this is yet another instance where Vance has boldly and shamelessly lied to your face. He dishonestly fed you information that was factually wrong and easily disproved. He dissed you.
Any reporter who takes anything coming from the Vance-led state GOP at face value, is a chump.
Too bad there’s no one in the mainstream media who has the stones to stand up to liars AND fools like Vance.
I am calling every media outlet in the area to tell them they are cowards, punks and yellow bastards for failing to stand up to the corrupt GOP!
I could offer a comment, but others have made the point so well before:
“When lying, be emphatic and indignant, thus behaving like your children.” —William Feather
“People never lie so much as after a hunt, during a war or before an election.” —Otto von Bismarck
“Nobody speaks the truth when there’s something they must have.” —Elizabeth Bowen
“By a lie a man throws away and, as it were, annihilates his dignity as a man.” —Immanuel Kant
“Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.” (Lat.: False in one thing, false in everything.) —legal maxim
“The liar’s punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else.” —George Bernard Shaw
“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes to be true.” —Demosthenes
“You can fool too many of the people too much of the time.” —James Thurber
“People do not believe lies because they have to, but because they want to.” —Malcolm Muggeridge
You see MAM! That’s called lying! You can write about it now, it was in a blog.
The ignorance regarding stock options is pretty amazing – there are 30K Microsoft employees and umpteen thousand other internet startups using options as an incentive in the Seattle area who can explain it to them. Sheesh.
“Any reporter who takes anything coming from the Vance-led state GOP at face value, is a chump.”
What do you expect from the Party of Lies and Whines?
Since I don’t own any Safeco stock and never will, I really don’t care if they burn their shareholders’ money on a quixotic campaign. Cantwell will crush McGavick. End of story.
In other news …
In New York, Jeanine Pirro today quit her hopelessly uphill race against Hillary Clinton.
The Seattle area TV Channels will enjoy depositting the millions McGavick will waste on this his hopeless race.
Democrats understand all about stock options unless the subject is Dick Cheney, and then they claim that stock options are the root of all evil.
No, Micheal, Cheney is the root of all evil.
Robert @ 4 – Does that still go on? Does MSFT still do it? How many “internet startups” are there now?
Hey Donna – While you’re researching “router”, can you froth and spew a bit about Halliburton? That’s one of my favorites. Just for the hell of it, tell us what they do. Tell us how much money they make. Tell us about profit margins for Iraq jobs.
Does Microsoft grant incentive stock options? Does a bear …. in the woods?
WHAT?!?!?!?
A republican lied!!!
WOW, that is shocking news!
Imagine that, a neocon-vict lying!!
MTR: you’re still a DICK and a MORON.
Vance needs to take a clue from Berendt and get along into the sunset. With those two in charge, I’m surprised we don’t have a third political party running Washington. Berendt was whiny and annoying and Vance is even more whiny and annoying. While he has been in charge, the GOP has consistently lost ground…
Wait a minute. Vance should stay! He’s doing a wonderful job – just like “Brownie” at FEMA.
GBS – How’s your face feel? LMAO !!!!!
MTR Dick:
My face feels just fine, seeing how I didn’t step on any rake.
Why don’t ya respond to my question on the Cantwell thread?
Dick!
MTR Dick
See posts 79 & 54.
Dick!
It is always fun to see MTR get his ass handed to him, and have him pretend it never happened.
It must be fun to live in make-believe-redneck-land.
Cantwell didn’t use a penny of her own money in her campaign for the senate. She made a $10 million loan of stock, then the stock took a dive along with the rest of the tech stocks. After she was elected, Hillary took her to all the best lobbbyist parties in dc and had them get out their checkbooks so the campaign could repay the loan to Maria.
Quite a trick. Too bad no one around here cares.
@ 19
You’re right, no one here CARES about your whining.
Janet S @20,
Normally I ignore you, but I just like to point out that you are talking out of your ass. Do a little googling, then come back with some facts.
Although I am not a Medical Doctor, I have come to the conclusion that all of the Trolls here are allergic, and oddly enough impervious, to facts.
@ 23
Ms Chickenhawk (aka Mr. Cynical) isn’t a doctor either, but he plays one when Mark The Redneck Dick comes over for play day in Ms Chickenhawks basement.
You know, falafels, drug dealers, and bears, OH MY!
Friggin’ perverts.
Goldy, it certainly isn’t a $14.3 million gift.
As you pointed out in your earlier posting on 12/20/2005 at 2:25 p.m., $9.8 million of the stock options vest on 01/26/2006. Granted, McGavick stepped down as CEO on 12/01/2005 and is only working part-time starting 01/01/2006, but in the absence of the sweet-heart deal he worked out, he could have almost as easily stayed working full time through 01/31/2006 and gotten this $9.8 million vested without any hanky-panky whatsoever.
At most, the gift is $4.5 million of accelerated options, which would not have vested until some future date that would have been too late for McGavick to step down and effectively campaign.
As for Cantwell, you call Chris Vance a liar, and then make your own statement that NONE of Cantwell’s options were accelerated. Can you provide me with the SEC filing of RealNetworks concerning Cantwell’s severance package? I hope you can, because even if Vance is incorrect (or even a liar), you would be reckless calling him a liar if you did not have adequate proof that was he is saying happens to be false.
Goldy:
http://www.techcentralstation.com/120505G.html
She used a combination of personally donating her windfall and loaning her windfall to her campaign. When the stock dropped, the campaign had no money to repay the loan she made to herself. She went on the party circuit, and the problem was solved.
This article implies that the job she had at Real Networks was not all that serious. I have yet to hear from anyone in the tech community what exactly she did for the company that was worth the amount paid. It cost Glaser nothing to do what he did.
Mark the Redneck was admiring the hand made brass bed in my bedroom and then commented on the beauty of the 19th century doorknob on the bedroom door. He scares me…
Also, keep in mind that Safeco stock wasn’t worth that much when McGavick was granted his options. Somehow I doubt that McGavick’s stock options were really worth anything when they were granted, and imagine they were probably granted at current market value (or even a little higher than current market value):
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?.....=l&c=
Can you tell me when each McGavick stock option was initially granted, how many shares were available in the option grant, the price at which the option had to be exercised, and when the option vested?
From the Wire:
Cantwell Leads Senate in Stopping Arctic Drilling
Calls for Immediate Passage of Funding Bill for Troops
WASHINGTON, DC – U.S. Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA) issued the following statement on the successful blocking of drilling in the Arctic from the defense spending bill. Cantwell led the fight on the Senate floor to keep the Senate playing by the rules and putting the people’s interests before the special interests.
“This was a great bipartisan victory for all members who worked to play by the rules and a great bipartisan victory for our troops,” said Cantwell, a member of the Senate’s Commerce and Energy Committees. “I’m glad we stood up to say that this trickery. It’s time to fund and support the troops now without anymore tricks. Now that we’ve successfully removed these provisions from this legislation, we can get down to business and deliver to our men and women in uniform around the world the resources they need to do their jobs and keep America safe. We successfully stopped drilling in the Arctic for now, but we will remain vigilant next year to make sure that the country focuses its energy on real solutions to our over dependence on foreign oil and not Christmas packages for the oil companies.”
Cantwell, who also serves as the chair of Energy Independence 2020, had threatened earlier in the week to use all procedural means to remove the Arctic Refuge drilling provision and had been working to convince her colleagues to stand with her on this issue. Cantwell has been a leader in the fight to prevent drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
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MTR likes 19th century economic and social theories, and other 19th century stuff. He’s probably hoping that whale oil will come back, so he can make money off it.
goldy@22
First time i’ve seen you dead wrong on the facts. Janet accurately portrayed the events.
What part to you want “google” stuff on? The loan, the repayments, the fundraising…. geesh, no wonder you are jealous of Shark
Yeah, and my googling is held up in the filter. So much for defending myself.
“my googling is held up in the filter” Word to the wise… never use the word ca sin o as one word.
Donna: How about you are an i d i o t?
Because you agree with others on this site, you are allowed to print whatever you want. Those of us who are openly challenged are held to a higher standard. I just wanted you all to know that Maria likes to live the rich life, but sure doesn’t want the rest of you m o r o n s to do the same.
Janet S “Because you agree with others on this site, you are allowed to print whatever you want.”
No, Janet I was offering words of advice. Why?
Because I already had a post held up for the word “cas in o”
And I have had several posts held up for similair “spam related” words.
Your conclusion is erroneous, paranoid and MORONIC!
Janet S. just joined the official wingnut whacko Neo-Con Zombie list.
Okay – Donna, I apologize. I thought your comment was meant to be derogatory, not actually useful. I didn’t use that particular word, but thanks for the advice – I will be careful in the future.
Richard @28,
As you wish:
The latter two grants are the accelerated ones. Safeco is essentially just giving him the money. The first grant listed vests on 1/25, but McGavick had announced he was stepping down to campaign full time the end of the year. Safeco is keeping him on the payroll so that he can vest this huge option grant.
This is strikingly different from Cantwell, who cashed out options vested prior to leaving the company (and prior to the election year.)
FYI… McGavick has already vested about $15 million worth of options at current market values.
@ 35
See what happens when you try to “help” the moron’s on this site avoid the spam filter?
No wonder the neo-convicts are so corrupt, their base is made up of primarily of rude and stupid people. Like Janet S.
My bad @ 39
I officially retract my comments towards Janet S. and issue a formal apology. I’m sorry for jumping your case.
GBS
Janet – Please give GBS a pass. He’s having a bad day. He has a bruise on his face in the shape of a rake handle.
LMAO ! ! !
Ha haahahaha, Oh, man, Mark The Redneck Dick, you’re sooooo funnnnnny.
Hey, Dick, answer the question on the Cantwell thread.
Moron.
Goldy,
Will McGavick claim to be rich, self funded, above reproach,…then when things get tough…go beg for donations…
that’s what Maria did…
The Repugs really know how to pick a winner.
What could be a quicker ticket to defeat than running the ever popular Insurance Co. CEO, running on Insurance Company money?
Oh, yeah, McGavick is going to go far! I just hope he has an early retiremnet plan.
Janet, you may have a hard time understanding MTR’s comments. His ass is in his hands, and he has a rake impression on his face.
But, while you are here, Janet, ask MTR about his “vaginas equal stoopidity” claim.
As reported by Associated Press:
Cantwell pledged as collateral a $375,000 home to set up a $600,000 line of credit despite FEC rules requiring collateral for a campaign loan to be at least as much as the loan.
On a second loan, a $4,000,000 line of credit on which Cantwell ended up borrowing $3.2 million, Cantwell pledged as collateral RealNetworks stock which was then worth $5.6 million.
But then the stock plunged in value and she had to repay the loans via a fundraising campaign.
Donna – Any luck on “router”? Tell me, how do you do performance evaluations on those “lower technical people” if you have no fucking idea what they do?
I asked the HR department if I could offer you a job, MTR. But when I told them about the “vaginas equal stoopidity” claim, they seemed to think that you would not be a good fit…
In society in general.
Dick:
Any luck in aswering my question on the Cantwell thread @ 54?
Unless, of course, you have no fucking idea what you’re blathering about.
This would be ironic: If McGavick read the signs, and bowed out of the Quixotic race (as many other well funded Republican challengers are already doing)against shoe-in Dem Incumbents, taking all the money he “earned”, and avoiding the jail time (that so many other Republican industry shills are facing).
It’d be ironic because he’d be proving how unprincipled he is (taking money then not providing service)! Just like a Republican! LOL
Also, to add to the post at 2, the best in my book is:
A man who tells lies merely hides the truth. But a man who tells half-lies has forgotten where he put it.
What? No comment from Mark The Redneck Dick?
You Dick!
by Goldy, 12/21/2005, 12:08 PM
“The money Cantwell cashed out in 2000 came from the stock options she had vested during her four years working as a Vice President at Real Networks.”
Part of the money Cantwell used in her 2000 campaign was in the form of loans with stock options used as collateral.
Comment by Goldy— 12/21/05 @ 3:21 pm
“This is strikingly different from Cantwell, who cashed out options vested prior to leaving the company (and prior to the election year.)”
Not all the money she spent in 2000 was cashed out options. Remember Cantwell’s 2000 campaign was reprimanded by the FEC for not properly reporting large loans she made to her campaign just prior to the election.
Comment by Voter Advocate— 12/21/05 @ 1:54 pm
“Does Microsoft grant incentive stock options? Does a bear …. in the woods? ”
Not any more, they give out stock grants instead.
Janet @ 26
A few notes about that article and your comments.
First of all, from a pure logic standpoint, Maria Cantwell having to be bailed out after spending money is not quite the same as having someone front you money for a campaign. If Cantwell knew that she’d be unable to afford to pay off the loan beforehand, then yes, you have an argument.
Also, keep in mind that James Glassman is a paid lobbyist/journalist. In fact, all of Tech Central Station exists for that purpose. They don’t even hide it. Why should they when people like aren’t bothered by that fact in the least?
Neither you nor I knows what Cantwell’s actual job at Real Networks was, but I can tell you that basing your perception of it on what’s written in Tech Central Station is a bad idea.
Janet @ 26
A few notes about that article and your comments.
First of all, from a pure logic standpoint, Maria Cantwell having to be bailed out after spending money is not quite the same as having someone front you money for a campaign. If Cantwell knew that she’d be unable to afford to pay off the loan beforehand, then yes, you have an argument.
Also, keep in mind that James Glassman is a paid lobbyist/journalist. In fact, all of Tech Central Station exists for that purpose. They don’t even hide it. Why should they when people like aren’t bothered by that fact in the least?
Neither you nor I knows what Cantwell’s actual job at Real Networks was, but I can tell you that basing your perception of it on what’s written in Tech Central Station is a bad idea.
Sorry, the rest of my comment is not getting past the filter here. Damn you Goldy!!!
Also, keep in mind that James Glassman is a paid lobbyist/journalist. In fact, all of Tech Central Station exists for that purpose.
They don’t even hide it. Why should they when people like aren’t bothered by that fact in the least?
Neither you nor I knows what Cantwell’s actual job at Real Networks was, but I can tell you that basing your perception of it on what’s written in Tech Central Station is a bad idea.
Neither you nor I knows what Cantwell’s actual role at Real Networks was, but I can tell you that basing your perception of it on what’s written in Tech Central Station is a bad idea.
David @2 and Larry @49
It is very tough not to associate those pearls (umm, necklace) with Bill Clinton, and I happen to be one of those who think Clinton was a good president.
Marks,
Do you really think that Clinton was someone unique in the fact that he was a President who told a lie? Everyone who’s ever been in the White House has lied. The fact that he did it under oath is why he suffered the fate he did, but that’s a different can of worms altogether.
Richard Pope @ 28
Also, keep in mind that Safeco stock wasn’t worth that much when McGavick was granted his options. Somehow I doubt that McGavick’s stock options were really worth anything when they were granted, and imagine they were probably granted at current market value (or even a little higher than current market value)
Richard, I’m not sure you understand how stock options work. When stock options are vested, you get to purchase them at the granted price, but they are worth the current price. So if Safeco stock wasn’t worth much when McGavick got his options, that was good for him. The granted price, in any case I’ve ever seen, is the stock price at either the beginning or end of that day.
Look at the numbers that Goldy provided. The granted price for the first set was $24.25 a share. The vested price was $57. The difference ($32.75) times the number of shares (300,000) is where the $9.8 million figure comes from. If the granted price were lower, that figure would be higher.
Clarification…
The granted price, in any case I’ve ever seen, is the stock price at either the beginning or end of that day.
The granted price, in any case I’ve ever seen, is the stock price at either the beginning or end of the day the options are granted.
first , Microsoft no longer does stock options, they do stock grants.
Second, its fairly clear that a lot of people understand very little about what a stock option is and what its value is.
Microsoft stopped doing the stock option thing after years of being unable to return the stock price back up to 1999-2000 levels. When I started there, the stock price went down like 3-5% points from the Friday before (right during the bubble-bursting craziness). Everyone who started there that day thought it was a blessing. The stock continued to slide and today is still worth less than it was that day.
My neighbor has a router. It looks like this:
http://www.all-powertool.com/Electric_Router.htm
It was my understanding that Cantwell took a loan against the value of her options, something that was very commonly done then.
Like many others who did likewise, the market drop caught them unprepared to pay the loans because their optoins were worthless. They had a strike price higher then the current market price, which gave them negative value. In Cantwells case, the market drop was huge, and the loss extreme.
She did get help from other Democrats to raise money to pay the lonas off, somthing I personally cannot fault her for. If her contributers want to bail there candidate out, thats their choice.
There was an article in the newspaper a few years ago about people who depended on options for loan collateral and got hammered like she did.
I dont think she did anything unusual, she was just like others who used the options they had and lost out when the bubble burst.
61,
Yes they did a big buy out program for the options.
Goldy@38 sez:
“This is strikingly different from Cantwell, who cashed out options vested prior to leaving the company (and prior to the election year.)
Comment by Goldy— 12/21/05 @ 3:21 pm”
Goldy, you use the term “cashed out options”. Explain to us precisely what you mean by that please. Are you saying Cantwell received ALL CASH for her options???? You may want to go back and look at the record on this one dude.
“At the time, according to the Associated Press, Cantwell earned $33,789 in the year before she came to Congress, and she had a net worth under $15,000.
The House provided her with a $10,000 raise, but, alas, she was washed away in the Republican tsunami of 1994. She emerged from Congress practically broke, but, luckily, with some nice friends.
One of them, Rob Glaser, a former Microsoft employee, “recruited the out-of-work politician for his new company, Real Networks,” according to The Industry Standard.
These were the lovely days when many high-tech firms were handing out stock options like crazy, and Glaser showered them on Maria Cantwell. A few years later, her Real Networks shares were worth, according to a definitive 2001 article in the Seattle Weekly, “roughly $80 million.”
She was rich — so rich that she could run for Senate, in a great Democratic tradition followed that same year by Sens. Mark Dayton (D-Minn.), the department store heir, and Jon Corzine (D-N.J.), former CEO of Goldman Sachs.
She used $9.2 million of her own money in the campaign, according to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. About $6 million came from stock sales and the rest from loans using her stock as collateral.
Cantwell’s Senate seat itself is a windfall profit. Without the lucky timing of her plunge into Real Networks, it’s unlikely she would be a member of the world’s most exclusive club today.
As fortune would have it, just as Cantwell started her Senate campaign, Real Networks was hitting a new high ($93 a share, adjusted for splits). By February 2001, after she was safely sworn in, the stock had fallen to $8, in which neighborhood it’s pretty much been ever since (Friday’s close was $8.89).”
Read about Maria C. here:
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4493
I already give monthly to the DCC (Democracy Bonds), so I just gave an additional donation to Cantwell’s campaign.
Just thought you Trolls would like to know!
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Instead of Maria Cantwell we should start calling her Maria Windfall!!! Good article Cynical. These donks flapping their gums about McGavick… Blah Blah Blah Blah … same old shit different day.
I encourage all Trolls to give money to McGavics campaign.
I just love seeing fools throw their money away. And I truly hope the GOP keeps targeting funds toward McGavick. Just keep wasting money by throwing it in the sewer… yeah..
THREE CHEERS FOR ELTON JOHN —- MARRIED HIS HSUBAND TODAY IN BRITIAN –
THE RED BLOODED LIVING TRUTH OF THE OLD AC/DC ROCK SONG ABOUT BIG BALLS —
FAME, MONEY TO BURN, AND BIG BALLS TO BOOT— A FORTY YEAR CAREER AND STILL ON THE INTERNATIONAL FRONT PAGES — WOW.
PERHAPS HE WILL COME TO SEATTLE TO DO A FUND RAISER FOR MARIA – ALL THE RICH SEATTLE QUEERS, IE. FAGS AND DYKES AND BI AND TRANS AND WOULD SURELY SELL IT OUT.
Tom @69
I have no idea what you said. If you could discover lowercase I might be amenable…
marks @ 70
On this we are in total agreement.
Donna,
I just can’t read it. It is like shouting, and shouting is reserved for kooks.
That is the basis of our agreement.
But further looking at Tom’s missive does not bear hidden fruit.
It is just Kooky.
What is Kooky about cheering for Elton John?
I guess a new set of pricks and dicks have revaled themselves. Nothing hidden about homophobia in America.
Oh, maybe it has no news value to this bunch of AOL teen room chatters. Just an internalional audience of billions.
Well – I think my reply was censored — this sire really does have a handful of favorites who dominate all the chats.
Good bye. I use bold because I am goiong blind, but, that would not occur to the mentally constipated stuck in the chat manners of 1980.
Thanks, Tom.
btw – If you would reserve your hands for their intended use, perhaps you would not go blind?
Just a sorry-ass thought from a couple of dick-skinners in hibernation…
I know I am not worried about spying. I just keep the American flag out front of my house along with I vote Republican….HEHEHEHHEHE
BREAKING NEWS ! BUSH SUFFERS TERRIBLE LOSS ON PATRIOT ACT!
Bush has been humiliated again with the passage of a mere six months extension of the Commie-inspired PA! Bush had made making the PA permanent one of his highest priorities. We now see just how weak he and the GOP are right now. Best they could get was six months. Approaching the period when the Dems will take over one or both houses of Congress and put America back on track to freedom!
Halaluah! Left Turn! America Rejoice! The long nightmare is almost over! Praise be the forefathers! Praise be Democracy!
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“Because you agree with others on this site, you are allowed to print whatever you want. Those of us who are openly challenged are held to a higher standard.”
Horsepuckey! The rest of us get stuck in the spam filter, too. You Republicans sure are whiney little crybabies.
It is all coming into place. In 2006 the real patriots take over, Impeach Bush, withdraw our brave soldiers from the civil war in Iraq, take real action against terrorism. Actually fund Homeland security, and pay for it all by retracting the tax gift to the Uber wealthy!
The deficit will slowly disolve. The economy will rebound, and the stock market will finally exceed where it was when Bush took over.
Good Morning America! Happy Times are beginning to return!
Speaking of whiney crybabies, I see on Sucky Politics that Stefan is now calling Judge Bridges a “hick judge.”
Speaking of Sucky Politics, Stefan seems to be throwing topics at the wall to see if anything will stick. This is the blogger equivalent of gloryholing, i.e., he sticks his pecker through a hole in the john wall and wait a while to see if anyone sucks it. He’s averaging 1 to 3 comments a thread.
Speaking of Stefan, I wonder why he plans to keep all the money from his lawsuit against King County Elections to himself, instead of sharing it with the generous contributors to his “legal action fund” who paid for the lawsuit? Is it because
a) he’s a selfish prick,
or
b) he needs the money because he can’t hold a job — not even a $9-an-hour temp job with King County Elections?
Yoiu got love the optimism of these donks. An off year election goes their way and a couple of RINOs stab Bush in the back and they think they won 2006.
Donna in the year 2040
Ahhh It is all (cough wiess sneeze) coming together. We are going to finally going to get over the 20 seat mark in the Senate. Dammit Nurse I dont want to take my Geritol.
Speaking of Roger Rabbit … Roger Rabbit has posted 80% of the last 5 comments on this thread. Hey trolls — if you don’t like it, go look up your armadillo!
People like the minnow will keep whining even louder as their voice gets smaller and smaller, and even his base begins to piss on him.
Goldy’s blog is so popular, he gets more action in 5 minutes just from Roger Rabbit than Stefan gets all day from all the Republicans left in Washington, whose numbers are declining by the day, if the latest polls are any indication.
Hey Stefan — why stop at calling Judge Bridges a “hick judge?” Why not call Chelan County a “hick county?” That should go over big with your eastern Washington GOP pals — and you’d be telling the truth for once.
$2 million spent on the state’s best lawyers, and all they got from a hick judge in a hick county was 4 crooked votes subtracted from their candidate’s total. Nice going, dudes. Maybe you should sue in a Democrat county next time — after all, it would be hard to do worse.
Roger Rabbit has posted 100% of Roger Rabbit’s last 8 posts on this thread.
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Hey Rufus, how’d you guys do in the Senate today? You’d better hope the battery in Cheney’s pacemaker doesn’t run out of juice in the middle of a roll call vote!
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
RR @ 80 I take umbrage at your statistics.
er, I mean 90
Impeach Bush Now.
DUFUS “a couple of RINOs stab Bush in the back”
LOL, if that is how you count Republicans, you may soon find yourself with a congress filled with RINO’s!
Bush is the Kiss OF Death for any Republican stupid enough to be seen supporting him.
WHO CARES IF ASTRONOMERS HAVE DISCOVERED ORGANIC CHEMICALS IN SPACE?
From Time Magazine:
“Using the Spitzer Space Telescope, an orbiting observatory that sees in infrared rather than visible light, they’ve detected the telltale signature of two organic chemicals, acetylene and hydrogen cyanide, in a cloud of gas and dust surrounding a baby star. And in the lab, at least, these chemicals are among the building blocks of amino acids (which are themselves the building blocks of proteins)—and also of at least one of the chemical ‘letters’ that make up DNA.”
So what? Since evolution is bunk and life was intelligently designed, there’s no chance those UFOs you guys have seen hovering over your houses contain hostile life forms.
Yep, by the end of 2006, the only Republicans not considered a RINO by DUFUS will be in prison!
Take heart DUFUS, it is not like the Republican party left you behind. They never cared one little bit about you from the very start, you fucking loooooser! YEAH!
So what? Since evolution is bunk and life was intelligently designed, there’s no chance those UFOs you guys have seen hovering over your houses contain hostile life forms.
Wabbit I saw a UFO the other night… no wait it was a Diebold voting machine. The Republican won.
99
So true. What all these trailer park redneck wannabes don’t realize is the only thing they’re ever gonna get from Republicans is the opportunity to work in sweatshops for $1.50 a day.
100
When did you get back from Ohio?
Geez, I didn’t even know you’d left. Too bad you came back.
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Statistics seem to be a moving target here due to random releases of posts from the filter.
Yeah, RR, most of the post you are referring to are way off from my screen.
Are we in some time of time tunnel? IS RUFUS now a Neanderthal? OR just another 21st century dumbfuck Neo-Con Kool AId drunk Zombie?
Damn, I just scared myself!
My problem with the way that Maria handled the financing of her campaign was that she made a big deal about not accepting special interest money, by not taking PAC money. But, that didn’t stop her from taking donations from out-of-state lobbyists to pay off the loan.
The difference is in letter, not form. The lobbyists didn’t give her the money to be nice. Just like Abramoff. I know everyone does it, but she acted pious by claiming not to do it.
Janet, we all have problems. Just be glad yours is so insignificant and wholly unrealistic.
Just be gladdened by the upcoming return of Democracy to the Land We Both Love, and the death of the evil Neocon Empire.
I am sure we can agree better times are ahead for us all.
Donna,
It is past your bedtime, the books must be boring tonight!
sgmmac, I am just celebrating the rebirth of a nation!
Donna,
Speaking of births, I am almost a grandmother. We were at the hospital last night and came home, went shopping and now it looks like I will be going back there in a hour or so…..
So why don’t all politicians follow the Cantwell example and finance their whole campaigns on credit cards? Since apparently campaign finance laws don’t apply to how you repay campaign debts, they only apply to donations prior to the election.
So why don’t all politicians follow the Cantwell example an put the whole campaign on a cr*dit card? Apparently campaign finance laws don’t apply to how you repay campaign debts, only to money you collect prior to the election.
Goldy,
when you going to admit YOU lied….
Maria’s 2000 income you got right. But she didn’t risk everyting for a risky startup. Anybody in town would have jumped for that job, we all knew it would payoff.
And she funded her “i’m rich and thus independent” campaign with inflated stock, then borrowed, then got bailed out.
She’s in the hip pocket of you and your lib buddies..
Hillary led Maria around to all the lobbyist parties, and so she now owns Maria. Notice how Maria was absent since she was elected, and now she is in the paper lots? Her owners have decided they need her vote in the senate and want her to return, so they make sure she gets lots of press.
No one except the local papers are giving Maria credit for ANWR, so the dem leadership is getting lots of mileage out of this for lots of different districts.
Chris Vance lied? You have some set on you there Goldy. I.E. Paul Berendt, Ron Sims, Dean Logan, the “Governor” the people didn’t elect, etc. Despicable lying men and one twat all. You gotta be the biggest godman hypocrit I’ve ever seen. Get a grip bro.
sgmmac @ 119, Ah, the (tax) gift of an end of the year birth!
My second oldest brother is a Christmas eve child. He is not a big fan of his birthday. Always kinda got cheated in the birthday gift haul.
Congrats on your impending grandchild, and Merry Christmas!
Hey MArk1 “Get a grip bro.”
Be careful Mark1, there are vaginas posting on the blog. Run Away in Fear!
Lots of us around seattle still have stock options worth zip. I have 11,000 from one startup and 8,000 from another. The microsofties and RN folks with options they managed to cash out while underwater are in even worse shape. Maria almost got out in time. Stock options were not free money. In some cases they represent free work.
For The LEFTIST PINHEADED KLOWNS:
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For My RIGHT Friends:
Here’s wishing all of You a Merry Christmas or Happy Hanukkah and a Happy New Year!
Ken
I tried to work at Real, and friend succeeded. Trust me we knew it would be worth something (that is, more than the low salary)
The job was a gift, and she indeed worked hard there.
Had she not promoted herself as independent and rich, we wouldn’t be having thsi debate.
Read about Maria C. here:
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4493
cynical
good, but it omits the best part, the fund raising to repay all the loans…
righton has made an important scoop!
POLITICIAN RAISES FUNDS FOR CAMPAIGN
film at 11
donnageddon again misses..
if i run for office, w/ little money, i fund raise in advance.
if rich person runs, they pay w/ own money, no fund raising
If Maria runs, she pays up front with her stock, and cliams this is her unique advantage (rich, indepdendent)…but then when times get tough, she takes our personal loans, and then golly gee, don’t want to go broke, she goes back to special interest groups and gets repaid.
How about this one?
Politician gets loan repaid by donation that would have been illegal had it been during campaign season.