Seems like this is one Senator the teabaggers’s efforts haven’t scared off.
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Mr. Cynicalspews:
Gee, Durbin & Baucus are headed out the door when Cantwell comes slithering in.
She can be for whatever…let’s see her brilliance explain to cost, benefits, undesirable consequences and how she plans to pay for it.
I’ll bet she can’t unless someone else gives her talking points.
She has cover because the Finance COmmittee will come out in Spetember with a NO PUBLIC OPTION….so she can say, doggonit, I would have voted for that Public Option but those darn turncoat Democrats held me back!!
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Mr. Cynicalspews:
Cantwell is an idiot for publicly stating this.
Her competition in the next election can, should and will use it against her as an example of her addled-brainness.
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Daddy Lovespews:
6 Cyn
She’ll destroy her opposition in her next election. But don’t you let that stop you from deluding yousdelf, you little scamp!
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Mr. Cynicalspews:
Now, even CNN is recognizing where wastes are in the system….
#1 TOO MANY TESTS because of fear of Ambulance Chasers!! Tort Reform!!
Gag, choke…
You mean the Trial Attorneys that control the Democrat Party and our Tort System is the biggest waste of all?? YES!!
I get a reall kick outta you KLOWNS who fawn all over Denmark and other Yerapeein’ countries, Japan and Canada…but fail to even acknowledge the difference in Tort Systems.
You KLOWNS are all screwed up because you emotionally knee-jerk from a system in need of Tort Reform, Fraud Investigation increase and more Intrastate Competition to a
COMPLETE GUV’MINT takeover!!
Idiots.
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Daddy Lovespews:
re: cost…and how she plans to pay for it
It’s paid for (if they pass the America’s Affordable Health Choices Act from the House), or so says the CBO:
America’s Affordable Health Choices Act, is deficit neutral over the 10-year budget window – and even produces a $6 billion surplus. CBO estimated more than $550 billion in gross Medicare and Medicaid savings. More importantly, the bill includes a comprehensive array of delivery reforms to set the stage for lowering the future growth in health care costs.
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Daddy Lovespews:
9 CYn
All based on the same PwC report that was created for the health insurance companies and does not provide its datasets. Real convincing.
It’s the same old, same old conservative dodge: get one outlet to publish a lie, then get another one to report it as “news.”
Not that there are not cost control measures out there (I posted recently on the ones that are, you know, IN THE BILLS), but the PwC report has no credibility.
Sorry, Charlie.
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Daddy Lovespews:
Buyt if you’re worried about costs, you should get behind a single-payer plan, because THAT’S what really saves the money, or at least that’s what the doctors say:
Administrative Savings
The General Accounting Office projects an administrative savings of 10 percent through the elimination of private insurance bills and administrative waste, or $150 billion in 2002. This savings would pay for providing medical care to those currently underserved.
Cost Containment
The Congressional Budget Office projects that single payer would reduce overall health costs by $225 billion by 2004 despite the expansion of comprehensive care to all Americans. No other plan projects this kind of savings.
Imagine America’s medical establishment NOT having to keep forty or fifty different sets of billing reimbursement mechanisms in place in their offices, NOT having to follow the different laws of every state’s insurance regulations. Just one form, one payer, and they are reimbursed. It would be awesome, right?
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Daddy Lovespews:
In 2004, Canadians voted the Rev. Thomas Clement Douglas of Calvary Baptist Church, Weymouth, Saskatchewan the “Greatest Canadian” of all time, over other famous Canadians such as Alexander Graham Bell, Lester Pearson, Pierre Trudeau, Wayne Gretzky and Sir Frederick Banting?
Why would they do that? I’m a big Bell man myself, and what about Geddy Lee?
Well, it’s not because he was the grandfather of Keifer Sutherland, but because he was the father of their Medicare program.
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Daddy Lovespews:
Cynical’s article, funnily enough, DOES support single-payer:
We spend a lot of time and money trying to get paid by insurers,” said Dr. Terry McGenney, a Kansas City, Mo.-based family physician.
“Every insurance company has its own forms,” McGenney said. “Some practices spend 40% of their revenue filling out paperwork that has nothing to do with patient care. So much of this could be automated.”
Dr. Jason Dees, a family doctor in a private practice based in New Albany, Miss., said his office often resubmits claims that have been “magically denied.”
“That adds to our administrative fees, extends the payment cycle and hurts our cash flow,” he said.
Dees also spends a lot of time getting “pre-certification” from insurers to approve higher-priced procedures such as MRIs. “We’re already operating on paper-thin margins and this takes times away from our patients,” he said.
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uptownspews:
CNN – the Corporate News Network
What’s really sad is we unknowingly support these crappy cable news stations through our monthly cable or satellite TV payments.
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ArtFartspews:
@13 Apparently, “Christian” in Canada still means something like what it used to here.
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Mr. Cynicalspews:
Yeah Christian now means Big Government Control instead of individual giving.
Let the Guv’mint do it!
Now that’s mighty Christian.
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Ekimspews:
@14
“Every insurance company has its own forms,” McGenney said. “Some practices spend 40% of their revenue filling out paperwork that has nothing to do with patient care.”
Then add to this another 20% to 40% insurance company overhead for board pay/bonuses and stockholder dividends that also has nothing to do with patient care.
Now explain to me again why a “public option” would be bad.
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Michaelspews:
@6
Cantwell is an idiot for publicly stating this.
Her competition in the next election can, should and will use it against her as an example of her addled-brainness.
Um… Did you see the margin Cantwell creamed Mike! by?
Cantwell will use this in her next campaign and will cream whoever goes up against her.
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ArtFartspews:
@17 What generally passes for “Christianity” now in this country is the devoted worship of money. You, sir, by all appearances are one of its more fanatical adherents.
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Mr. Cynicalspews:
ArtFart–
We gave over $25k last year…plus my wife volunteers for a Christian group that helped 10,000 people last year.
And you??
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Marvin Stamnspews:
18. Ekim spews:
Now explain to me again why a “public option” would be bad.
Lets say we have free government healthcare.
In 2012 the republicans take power back, control both houses and the white house.
How comfortable would you feel knowing that a republican administration had control of your healthcare.
Considering your hate for republicans, I would think that sends a chill up your spine.
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Marvin Stamnspews:
12. Daddy Love spews:
The Congressional Budget Office projects that single payer would reduce overall health costs by $225 billion by 2004
If it’s going to reduce the cost by $225 billion by the year 2004 I’m all for it.
Rujax! spews:
See…prayers to the Flying Spaghetti Monster (and lots of phone calls) really work!
Shelley spews:
Finally. I sent her multiple faxes.
One always hopes it helps.
Michael spews:
Yay!
ArtFart spews:
Seems like this is one Senator the teabaggers’s efforts haven’t scared off.
Mr. Cynical spews:
Gee, Durbin & Baucus are headed out the door when Cantwell comes slithering in.
She can be for whatever…let’s see her brilliance explain to cost, benefits, undesirable consequences and how she plans to pay for it.
I’ll bet she can’t unless someone else gives her talking points.
She has cover because the Finance COmmittee will come out in Spetember with a NO PUBLIC OPTION….so she can say, doggonit, I would have voted for that Public Option but those darn turncoat Democrats held me back!!
Mr. Cynical spews:
Cantwell is an idiot for publicly stating this.
Her competition in the next election can, should and will use it against her as an example of her addled-brainness.
Daddy Love spews:
6 Cyn
She’ll destroy her opposition in her next election. But don’t you let that stop you from deluding yousdelf, you little scamp!
Mr. Cynical spews:
Now, even CNN is recognizing where wastes are in the system….
#1 TOO MANY TESTS because of fear of Ambulance Chasers!! Tort Reform!!
Gag, choke…
You mean the Trial Attorneys that control the Democrat Party and our Tort System is the biggest waste of all?? YES!!
I get a reall kick outta you KLOWNS who fawn all over Denmark and other Yerapeein’ countries, Japan and Canada…but fail to even acknowledge the difference in Tort Systems.
Let’s make losers pay the winners legal fees.
End of Tort Problems!!
Mr. Cynical spews:
Here is the CNN link of Health Care Waste
http://finance.yahoo.com/insur.....nce-health
You KLOWNS are all screwed up because you emotionally knee-jerk from a system in need of Tort Reform, Fraud Investigation increase and more Intrastate Competition to a
COMPLETE GUV’MINT takeover!!
Idiots.
Daddy Love spews:
re: cost…and how she plans to pay for it
It’s paid for (if they pass the America’s Affordable Health Choices Act from the House), or so says the CBO:
Daddy Love spews:
9 CYn
All based on the same PwC report that was created for the health insurance companies and does not provide its datasets. Real convincing.
It’s the same old, same old conservative dodge: get one outlet to publish a lie, then get another one to report it as “news.”
Not that there are not cost control measures out there (I posted recently on the ones that are, you know, IN THE BILLS), but the PwC report has no credibility.
Sorry, Charlie.
Daddy Love spews:
Buyt if you’re worried about costs, you should get behind a single-payer plan, because THAT’S what really saves the money, or at least that’s what the doctors say:
Imagine America’s medical establishment NOT having to keep forty or fifty different sets of billing reimbursement mechanisms in place in their offices, NOT having to follow the different laws of every state’s insurance regulations. Just one form, one payer, and they are reimbursed. It would be awesome, right?
Daddy Love spews:
In 2004, Canadians voted the Rev. Thomas Clement Douglas of Calvary Baptist Church, Weymouth, Saskatchewan the “Greatest Canadian” of all time, over other famous Canadians such as Alexander Graham Bell, Lester Pearson, Pierre Trudeau, Wayne Gretzky and Sir Frederick Banting?
Why would they do that? I’m a big Bell man myself, and what about Geddy Lee?
Well, it’s not because he was the grandfather of Keifer Sutherland, but because he was the father of their Medicare program.
Daddy Love spews:
Cynical’s article, funnily enough, DOES support single-payer:
uptown spews:
CNN – the Corporate News Network
What’s really sad is we unknowingly support these crappy cable news stations through our monthly cable or satellite TV payments.
ArtFart spews:
@13 Apparently, “Christian” in Canada still means something like what it used to here.
Mr. Cynical spews:
Yeah Christian now means Big Government Control instead of individual giving.
Let the Guv’mint do it!
Now that’s mighty Christian.
Ekim spews:
Then add to this another 20% to 40% insurance company overhead for board pay/bonuses and stockholder dividends that also has nothing to do with patient care.
Now explain to me again why a “public option” would be bad.
Michael spews:
@6
Um… Did you see the margin Cantwell creamed Mike! by?
Cantwell will use this in her next campaign and will cream whoever goes up against her.
ArtFart spews:
@17 What generally passes for “Christianity” now in this country is the devoted worship of money. You, sir, by all appearances are one of its more fanatical adherents.
Mr. Cynical spews:
ArtFart–
We gave over $25k last year…plus my wife volunteers for a Christian group that helped 10,000 people last year.
And you??
Marvin Stamn spews:
Lets say we have free government healthcare.
In 2012 the republicans take power back, control both houses and the white house.
How comfortable would you feel knowing that a republican administration had control of your healthcare.
Considering your hate for republicans, I would think that sends a chill up your spine.
Marvin Stamn spews:
If it’s going to reduce the cost by $225 billion by the year 2004 I’m all for it.