Once again, the Tacoma News Tribune has achieved a level of stupidity that is both remarkable and depressing. And with Ken Burns’ fantastic series on alcohol prohibition airing this week on PBS, I should probably add inexcusable to that list as well.
The fun began over the weekend when TNT reporter Rob Carson filed a report about how he was able to get a medical marijuana authorization from a doctor he only saw over Skype. Anyone who’s familiar with the medical marijuana situation in the state knows that this kind of nonsense happens. At Seattle Hempfest, there were women with bikinis at the entrance encouraging people to “get legal” or to “get their green card”. Hell, we don’t even have “green cards” in this state.
Most people are smart enough to know that this will happen as long as there’s a way for people to make money from it. It’s no different from before medical marijuana was around, when there were thousands of people in this state willing to illegally sell pot to you for money. Now, along with those people, there are now people willing to provide you with a medical marijuana authorization for money. Not much of a difference other than the level of professional risk. These are merely the evolving ways that the futility of prohibiting a widely used recreation drug manifests itself.
As soon as I saw Carson’s report, I knew there was another Editorial Board disaster in the making. And they did not disappoint:
Restoring credibility to medical marijuana in Washington will require separating drug-seekers from the seriously ill people who may genuinely need it.
Anyone who cares about the latter should be anxious to prevent recreational users and abusers from discrediting the whole system – as is happening in Tacoma on a large scale.
The TNT seems awfully concerned about the credibility of medical marijuana, but they might need to be a little more worried about their own credibility. Hardly anyone disputes the fact that there are folks who derive genuine value from the medical use of marijuana. Even Dave Reichert has come to realize this after the reality of its effectiveness hit close to home. The fact that large numbers of recreational users come up with medical excuses doesn’t discredit that reality at all. But it does discredit the morons who can’t figure that out.
For the last two years, pot-lovers across the state have found it increasingly easy to get the so-called green cards that protect them from the law.
Wow, two big problems. There are no such thing as “green cards”. Anyone who’s told by a doctor that they are getting a “green card” is being scammed. This state does not have a registry system. What a doctor (or other licensed health professional) can give you is an authorization on special tamper-proof paper. And if a police officer finds your medical marijuana and he/she doesn’t think your authorization is valid? Well, he/she can still arrest your ass and see if the prosecutor will press charges. So not only are people not getting “green cards”, they don’t even have protection from the law. Of course, this fact makes the editorial even more completely pointless so it’s not surprising they’re not explaining it well.
Tacoma officials have accommodated them by tolerating a proliferation of illegal marijuana stores that now – according to licensing records – greatly outnumber the city’s pharmacies.
And according to a study by the RAND Corporation, it’s very possible that they lead to a reduction in crime in their immediate vicinity. So what’s the problem? Let’s get more of them!
That’s the visible end of the sham, but it’s not the headwater. Upstream, the industry is sustained by ever-growing numbers of common marijuana smokers who’ve discovered how easy it is get authorization papers on flimsy pretexts.
Who cares? Either those recreational smokers buy marijuana from someone who’s likely being supplied by organized crime, or they can buy it from a locally run dispensary who pays taxes and keeps the profits in the community. I know which option I prefer.
The News Tribune’s Rob Carson, for example, reported Sunday that, after walking into a Tacoma marijuana outlet, he was able to get medical authorization via the Internet from a nurse practitioner in another part of the state.
When the TNT finally goes tits up, I will pay top dollar for their fainting couch.
State law permits providers to authorize marijuana to treat debilitating or intractable pain that can’t be relieved by other treatments. Carson’s long-distance nurse quickly recommended marijuana for shoulder discomfort he normally handled with ibuprofen.
Sure, and if Carson got caught with marijuana and charged with possession, that authorization very likely wouldn’t hold up in court. Although if he were almost anywhere in King County, the prosecutor likely would have more important things to do than to charge him anyway. And if he were in Seattle, he wouldn’t even need the authorization.
The medical ethics of too many pot docs are a joke. Supposed professionals recommend marijuana to the vast majority of “patients” they see, and they offer their customers their money back if they don’t walk away with a license to use. It’s all about the cash.
Wow, how’d you unravel that mystery?! Boy, your investigative skills are top-notch.
Judge John Hickman of the Pierce County Superior Court has lost patience with the charade. He has refused to return confiscated “medical marijuana” to two Tacomans unless they demonstrate that their authorizations actually comply with state law.
Um, I believe they were providers, so even if their own authorizations don’t hold up, they only have to prove that they were providing for a valid patient.
These two aren’t the issue; they may well be in compliance. What’s important is that somebody – at last – is insisting that authorizations pass muster with someone other than a marijuana merchant.
That’s been the law, numbnuts. Look up State v. Fry.
Somebody – preferably, responsible medical professionals – should be scrutinizing the authorizers on a routine basis.
They already do, and few people get upset about it. In fact, a doctor who writes medical marijuana authorizations was one of the main people providing input for how the new law passed this year should prevent scammers.
Marijuana advocates talk about moving the drug from Schedule I to Schedule II, which would allow doctors to legally prescribe it.
That may not be a bad idea. But the prescribing of Schedule II drugs, such as Percocet and amphetamines, is monitored by professional oversight bodies and ultimately by pharmacists. Doctors get sanctioned if they get too prescription-happy.
Actually most marijuana advocates think it should be lower that Schedule II (which is where cocaine and methamphetamine are listed), but the general sentiment is true. If a doctor thinks that you could benefit from medical marijuana, you should be able to obtain it from a safe place where the safety of the drug is most assured. And every medical marijuana supporter I’ve ever known wants more research done to find out exactly what the plant does and how it’s most effective. Up until now, it’s mostly anecdotal and that’s far from ideal.
Sorry this is long, but for an editorial this clueless, it requires a full line-by-line takedown. Here’s the utterly obnoxious end:
Medical marijuana advocates who are out to help the genuinely sick – not furtively legalize the drug for all comers – wouldn’t object to tighter regulations of their own. Would they?
Sorry, but I’m here to both help the genuinely sick AND legalize the drug for all (adult) comers. I mentioned this week’s PBS documentary on alcohol prohibition for a reason, and it’s because the parallels are all too obvious.
During alcohol prohibition, there was a medical exemption for alcohol. If you could get a doctor to write you a prescription for whiskey, you were able to buy “medicinal” booze through legal channels. There was also a religious exemption. This led to a lot of priests and rabbis getting rich supplying people’s “spiritual activities”. All of this was cynical and all of it was driven by greed. But the answer to that problem wasn’t to crack down on the cynical ways people were able to exploit the law to get rich. The answer was to recognize that trying to stamp out a widely popular recreational drug is impossible, and that it was much smarter to make it legal and regulate its sale to all adults. The answer for marijuana is the same, and this should be obvious to anyone with both a brain and a minimal knowledge of history. But it appears that the folks at the Tacoma News-Tribune editorial board still have neither.
Liberal Scientist wonders when Republicans will be done with the charade and finally just start using the Hitler Salute spews:
I just took care of a guy who ended up in the hospital after just a week of daily, low-dose ibuprofen for his arthritic knees. That, and not enough water to drink resulted in him not peeing for 48 hours and being in acute renal failure. I though he was going to need dialysis before we pumped enough IV fluid into him to turn things around – unfortunately his scrotum was the size of a cantaloupe by that time.
A bottle of tylenol, taken all at once, is enough to quite efficiently rot your liver and put you on the transplant list, if you survive. The liver failure is characterized by delirium, jaundice and diffuse, spontaneous bleeding. A very ugly way to go.
An aspirin overdose in incredibly dangerous, hard to treat, and the last patient I treated for this (and the overdose was accidental – trying to treat pain and fever) needed dialysis for 4 days straight and a long stay in the intensive care unit.
I have NEVER seen anyone hospitalized for marijuana toxicity.
Upton spews:
You see what the IRS is doing to Harborside down in California? Threatens the entire medical marijuana industry. All this happening under a Democratic president.
For those of us who care about access to medical cannabis, for those of us who not only want pot rescheduled, but believe it should be decriminalized at the very least….who in the heck are we supposed to vote for anymore? Surely not Obama and where does Inslee stand on this issue..or is he just going to be another Gregoire?
Both major parties are greed fueled drug warriors. The persecution is never going to end..
Liberal Scientist wonders when Republicans will be done with the charade and finally just start using the Hitler Salute spews:
Not so long as there is a for-profit incarceration industry.
Politically Incorrect spews:
I agree that cannabis has good reason to be available to people in chronic pain. So what if recreational users also like to use the substance? Haven’t people got the Constitutional right to use a substance that they enjoy?
If the TNT thinks that it’s easy to get a medical marijuana card, then the solution is to legalize cannabis and stop the tomfoolery they discuss on their editorial pages. Cannabis is here to stay and a gift from the Supreme Being (in my opinion). People have the right to use it or not without the government trying to control their lives.
Michael spews:
Did any of these people, recreational or medicinal not have access to this “illegal” plant prior to the pot shops and “weed cards?”
Just legalize it.
Michael spews:
1. Pot has been easy to get or grow in Washington State since at least the early 1980’s.
2. Has crime gone up as pot have been easier and easier to get? Have traffic accidents gone up? The answer’s no, btw.
Just legalize it.
Jurjen S. spews:
The TNT‘s editorial hinges on the fallacious assumption that prohibition of a good or activity will eradicate it, as opposed to simply creating a black market for it.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Feds Crack Down On Legal Calif. Dispensaries
“Federal prosecutors have launched a crackdown on pot dispensaries in California, warning the stores that they must shut down in 45 days or face criminal charges and confiscation of their property even if they are operating legally under the state’s 15-year-old medical marijuana law.
“In an escalation of the ongoing conflict between the U.S. government and the nation’s … medical marijuana industry, at least 16 pot shops or their landlords received letters this week notifying them that they are violating federal drug laws, even though medical marijuana is legal in California.
“The state’s four U.S. attorneys are scheduled to announce a broader crackdown at a Friday news conference.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44.....nd_courts/
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Looks like Obama’s Justice Department has declared war on medical marijuana.
libertarianpothead spews:
ron paul is the only pres. candidate that would legalize (or at least stop prosecuting) weed.
the federal gov’t is an overbearing nanny all too willing to take our liberties. how is the left going to blame bush for the feds raiding the Cailf dispensaries?
potheads are going to have to put down the bong long enough to write a good initiative, gather signatures and run a professional campaign. the electeds in this state, esp. the dems. are simply too wimpy to legalize it.
Scott spews:
Where in this country’s history have we received revenue from a federally illegal enterprise? When did we decide as a country that the money spent by the supposed “sick or dying” should stimulate this nation’s economy. It costs $30/oz. to manufacture cannabis(including ferts-power-water-labor), yet the dispensaries charge upwards of $280/oz. During the “black market” decades, the price was ALWAYS tied to the fact that the original grower is taking the risk…thus, you pay for the risk he/she takes. Close down ALL dispensaries and LEGALIZE CANNABIS USE FOR ALL CITIZENS. Let’s stop the “pocket-lining” of the corner drug dealer and give the power back to the citizens of this country!
Mookie Blaylock spews:
if you guys hate the paper so much, then why the fuck are you reading it?
Politically Incorrect spews:
@11,
I don’t think anyone here necessarily hates newspapers at all. It’s just that sometimes newspapers and other media have dumbass ideas. That’s all there is to it: the people on this blog are attacking a stupid editorial by the TNT folks, not the newspaper itself. Heck, I even subscribe to the TNT and read at least some of it every day!
Michael spews:
I’m a TNT subscriber. I was one of their paper boys back in the 6th & 7th grade! The TNT has had some really good folks working for them over the years and done some cool reporting. Right now I’m mostly impressed by their outdoor rec. pages, but they do some good work elsewhere as well.
But, the current editorial board is just off the rails bad. Its not just that I disagree with them, I disagree with Kathleen Parker most of the time, but read her columns, it’s that they’re bad thinkers and bad writers.
Jim spews:
“And if he were in Seattle, he wouldn’t even need the authorization.”
Do folks not need authorizations at Seattle dispensaries?
Lee spews:
@14
In Seattle, the City Attorney won’t charge anyone for a low-level marijuana possession offense. That’s what I’m referencing.
Lee spews:
@11
if you guys hate the paper so much, then why the fuck are you reading it?
To give it the proper ridicule it deserves.
but goldy said.... spews:
but goldy said that print media is dead!
oh wait..it was dead until he needed a (somewhat) real job….