Pete Guither ridicules Markos Moulitsas for trying to make the case that Ron Paul is a racist.
Does this man sound like a racist to you?
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Racist? No…no more so than other conservatives who dislike federal entitlement efforts because they’re seen as wasteful, eventually ineffective, and enabling the creation of whole classes of people who become dependent upon the federal government.
Barry Goldwater was similarly pilloried in the 60’s…similarly unfairly pilloried.
Clueles? In large measure, yes. But his positions on issues ought to be considered on their merits, not found wanting because someone slaps the race card down in an effort to trump all other cards.
The Piper
Sure Paul’s not racist, but to assume that the free market will take care of inequalities is naive. It is fantastic that this country has the diverse racial and ethnic makeup that it does, but ignoring that any type of differences exists has proven time and again to be racially biased and unjust. I can’t site any internet references but I highly recommend the book “Racism without Racists” by Eduardo Bonilla Silva.
My mother knew a man who came to this country in the late 40’s from Germany. He had been a high ranking German officer during the war. He went through a trial for war crimes but because he had been jailed by the Nazis for insubordination when the Allies freed him, he was found not guilty.
Here was a decent man who lived within a despicable national party. He wanted to make changes but was powerless to do so. In the end he got put in prison for being a decent man.
Ron Paul may be such a man. He has a lot of great positions but he’s still a member of a despicable party. He would never get the nod as the nominee, nor would he get VP. Repugs just want him to go away. His libertarian positions also attract vermin like flies to honey. I can’t say if he is racist any more than other white politicians but he makes the case by association. As the saying goes, if you lie with dogs you are bound to get fleas.
ron paul voted twice for the cheney administration. that is a big fat dq in my book before i even delve into his john birch society lineage.
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A lot of currently good Dems have poor youthful resumes. I won’t hold that against him. He’s matured and his ability to change his mind without reservation or hesitancy makes him a good candidate for me. I’m a liberal but I think we could do a lot worse than an honest man.
A good Dem Congress could keep his more extreme ideas under control but he’s got the integrity I see lacking in most other candidates. Give me integrity over everything else and I’ll be fine.
Besides, he’s a socially-liberal Repug. I like Paul. Hartmann said he’s getting most or much of his money from soldiers. Interesting.
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Ron Paul:
The guy is against the civil rights act, would not have voted for it then and voted not to renew it now. He thinks Lincoln started the civil war and that is wasn’t about slavery (the southern states succeeded because Lincoln (in a compromise position) would let in no new slave states.
The guy may not be a racist – but he is an idiot and wacko. Play the clips of his interview with Rose – without FEDERAL intervention we would have state’s rights on civil rights and voting rights – and that is just what the southern racists want. Ron Paul speaks their language and anyone who thinks his ideas won’t negatively impact minorities in this country is beyond naive.
Ron Paul is a whackjob. You should read the guy’s positions before you snuggle up to him.
I’m not “snuggling up to him” Roger. I’m defending him from silly accusations.
Paul’s against the Civil Rights Act. He’s against Brown vs. Board of Education. He voted against the extension of the Voting Rights Act.
He accepts money from declared Nazis. When this is pointed out to him, he neither returns the money nor donates the accepted funds to a charity.
Just three months ago, he spoke to the Robert Taft Club, a public speaking forum run by Marcus Epstein, a regular writer for VDARE, a website labeled as a hate site by the Southern Poverty Law Center. They regularly host speakers from the League of the South, a white supremacist organization, American Renaissance, a white supremacist organization, and – earlier this year – hosted two leaders of Vlaams Belang, the Fascist Belgian political party. And when I say “Fascist”, I mean that in the capital letter definition of the term: they were founded by a Belgian leader who rounded up Jews and handed them over to the Nazis during WWII, they advocate full pardons for Nazi collaborators, and they advocate for a “white Belgium”.
These are not silly accusations. They are the truth.
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Yeah, but he doesn’t sound like a racist.
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Paul’s against the Civil Rights Act. He’s against Brown vs. Board of Education. He voted against the extension of the Voting Rights Act.
He’s not against those things because he’s racist. He’s against those things because of his very strict views on the Constitution.
He accepts money from declared Nazis. When this is pointed out to him, he neither returns the money nor donates the accepted funds to a charity.
For his own electoral chances, he obviously shouldn’t do this, but this is far from proof that he’s a racist. His viewpoint is that any racist who donates to him will be disappointed in the result they get.
Just three months ago, he spoke to the Robert Taft Club, a public speaking forum run by Marcus Epstein, a regular writer for VDARE, a website labeled as a hate site by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Isn’t it possible that they mistakenly believe he’s a racist for the same reasons YOU mistakenly believe he’s a racist?