On Monday I compared Fox Noise lunatic Glenn Beck to deceased Wisconsin Senator Joseph R. McCarthy, and I asked:
Which obscure administration or member of Congress will be next? Will it it be a third under-secretary for African affairs, or will it be, um, YOU?
And today we found out the answer. From Huffington Post:
Glenn Beck has struck again.
Yosi Sergant, who recently popped up on Beck’s radar for his involvement in a conference call on national service, has been asked to resign as communications director by the National Endowment for the Arts, sources familiar with the move tell the Huffington Post.
At issue was an August conference call in which the NEA encouraged select artists to participate in an administration project dubbed “United We Serve” and led by the first lady.
Beck attacked Sergant and the NEA on his Fox News talk show, accusing the agency of propaganda efforts similar to those used by Nazi Germany. And now Sergant has been tossed overboard, making him Beck’s second victim in his campaign to rid the administration of perceived radicals, socialists, communists, fascists, anarchists and all other manner of nefarious influences.
Perhaps not coincidentally, both Sergant and Van Jones – Beck’s first takedown – have roots in on-the-ground organizing and were tightly connected with the grassroots progressive community.
While an update to the HuffPo piece reports the NEA says Sergant will remain at the agency, stepping down from a leadership type position, it’s pretty clear that Beck and his neo-McCarthyite followers will stop at nothing to smear anyone in the administration they can, no matter how ridiculous the charges. (I mean, go to search.gov on your own if you want. I got gardening and food banks, how very Third Reich.)
And to top it all off, the Evergreen Freedom Foundation is bringing Beck to Seattle on Sept. 26 for an appearance at Safeco Field.
Now, it’s not really surprising that EFFWA would bring in Beck, because that’s what they do with their seemingly unlimited budget of far-right foundation money that comes from god-knows-where. But as this is yet another instance of the noise machine operating in concert with libertard stink tanks, you’d think an enterprising reporter might plan on delving into it all here in the next two weeks or so.
Or will it just be presented as “hey, look, Glenn Beck is at the ballyard, he must be genuinely popular!”
Is there a traditional reporter left in Seattle with the guts to wade through the baseless and bizarre statements Beck makes on a routine basis?
MadAve spews:
The EFF tries to pass itself off as a think tank – and they are bringing a right wing redneck kook to Seattle for some kind of death panel immigrant-bashing DeliverancePalooza?
Think Tank, eh? More like Dunk Tank.
take action! spews:
that would be a good time to turn out 2000 leftists protesting Beck, then they should bus up to Mt. Vernon and to a protest there, where the mayor is to give the key to the city to Beck.
Oh wait, progressives don’t actually do stuff anymore.
Nevermind.
MadAve spews:
So who’s still advertising on Beck? September 8 edition …
Here are Glenn Beck’s September 8 sponsors, in the order they appeared:
Rosland Capital
Hydrolyze
The Foundation for a Better Life
Carbonite
Citrix (GoToMeeting)
Topdot Mortgage
News Corp. (The Wall Street Journal)
Lear Capital
Clarity Media Group (The Weekly Standard)
National Geographic Society (National Geographic Channel)
IRSTaxAgreements.com
Independent Women Forum
Zero Technologies (ZeroWater)
Loan modification help line 1-888-336-5967
notaboomer spews:
tax-subsidized hate speech at safeco with gourmet cuisine provided by the mariners’ chef and official lodging at the marriott hotel. add them all to the sponsor list.
notaboomer spews:
so why does obama keep asking them to “resign?” isn’t that like paying ransom to terrists? what’s really going on?
headless lucy spews:
You can find out about the funding of these fringe groups at http://www.mediatransparency.org/. The site is currently being improved, so it cannot be accessed.
Past searches by me on the EFF (whose website, appropriately enough, is called ‘effwa’.org) through Media Transparency revealed that they like to promote themselves as an operation that is funded primarily through small contributions from individuals, but their real money comes from the Sam WalMart family and the ‘Scaiffe’ foundation.
As suspected, they are funded by well-heeled wingnuts.
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Politically Incorrect spews:
Actually, I like Glenn Beck, though I don’t agree with him on all topics. He’s done a lot of good exposing corruption over at ACORN and with this nutcase Cat Sunstein.
Michael spews:
I’m not sure who’s worse Beck or the people that refuse to stand up to him.
Michael spews:
Thanks to election and public records laws we know where the EFF’s money comes from. Maybe a little sunlight is needed?
Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
Interesting commentary from Good Ol Jon. First he runs to the HuffPo to get the half story…
Well let’s set this up so the HA Liberals can see just what mind lives in Jon’s granite encased cranial orifice, and his use of a partial story.
Now as Puddy sets this up, Puddy realizes peeps like Proud Leftist will get lost in the facts. Well Puddy can only write it at a certain dumbness level so pay attention Proud Leftist…
First – Read this for a first person account of the conference call
Excerpt: – “Backed by the full weight of President Barack Obama’s call to service and the institutional weight of the NEA, the conference call was billed as an opportunity for those in the art community to inspire service in four key categories, and at the top of the list were “health care” and “energy and environment.” The service was to be attached to the President’s United We Serve campaign, a nationwide federal initiative to make service a way of life for all Americans.
It sounded, how should I phrase it…unusual, that the NEA would invite the art community to a meeting to discuss issues currently under vehement national debate. I decided to call in, and what I heard concerned me.
The people running the conference call and rallying the group to get active on these issues were Yosi Sergant, the Director of Communications for the National Endowment for the Arts; Buffy Wicks, Deputy Director of the White House Office of Public Engagement; Nell Abernathy, Director of Outreach for United We Serve; Thomas Bates, Vice President of Civic Engagement for Rock the Vote; and Michael Skolnik, Political Director for Russell Simmons. ”
After you read the first person account here is the call transcript to Kerry Thicket, WA Times editorial page manager.
PICKET: “I understand there was a conference call on August 10th that the NEA invited producers, artists, marketers, et cetera.”
SERGANT: The NEA didn’t invite. We were a (garbled) called… There was a third party that was the invitation.
PICKET: I’m wondering if you could send me if possible a copy of the invitation.
SERGANT: Ummm, it didn’t come from us so I don’t — I don’t have it to distribute. You would go to them for that.
PICKET: Uh-huh. So who was the third party?
SERGANT: I believe it was Michael Skolnik, the Corporation for National and Community Service.
PICKET: Michael Skolnik?
SERGANT: No, he’s — he’s the third party. But the corporation set up the conference call and who conducted the conference call.
Who is Michael Skolnik? Michael Skolnik works for Russell Simmons, the hip-hop rap guy out of New York.
SKOLNIK: This is Michael Skolnik. I am based in New York, and I’m a filmmaker for the past ten years, but currently serve as the political director to Russell Simmons. I have been asked by folks at the White House and folks at the NEA about a month ago, a conversation that was had. We had the idea to — I would help bring together the artists, independent artists around the country.
So the bottom line so far was all those invited didn’t come from Yosi Sargent. Hmmm…? With everything so scripted by Axelrod and Emanuel from the NBC Expose not so long ago? Hmmm…?
So now we venture to the “emails”
Now Puddy will continue in another entry as the plot thickens…
Mr. Cynical spews:
Hey Jon….FOX just took John Stossel away from ABC. What a coup!
Are you going to blast Stossel too??
Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
#10 continued…
Now you can listen to the Kerry Thicket call audio among other things…
Then last Sunday George Will on This week with George Stephanopoulos (Puddy says Step-on-all-of-us) his commentary about broken laws…
So Puddy asks Jon, why not research your attack before blogging it fool?
Yep, Puddy reads and listens. It’s amazing when you compare the facts on both sides and then you see the fallout. Of course the liberal MSM will be playing catch-up here too. Puddy wonders why.
Oh… It’s A Slobbering Love Affair…
tpn spews:
This is the mainstream right (fringe by yesterday’s standards) legitimizing the current fringe right (EFF). Fascist elements in our country are reaching a very dangerous stage. I’m sure Susan Huchinson will get a boost as well.
Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
Oh and ylb StrangeEye will come on and attack the sources but not the facts. Yet when someone attacks his sources he wets his pants.
Funny how the HuffPo Gang didn’t get the full Yosi Sargent story. Was that on purpose? Was it sloppy detective work? Was it just plain laziness? Jon got swept up in his zeal to attack Glenn Beck he didn’t check it out? Guess Jon didn’t expect Puddy to read his entry? Well, somehow Puddy remembers this…
Enjoy reading the facts, chronologically of course.
Empty Suit Obama spews:
To begin your post with that sentence only shows your ignorance, Jon. I won’t bother reading the bilge that follows as it promises to be just as factually incorrect and your credibility is shot out of the gate.
No 8 second ride for you cowboy…
Beck outed a self admitted communit in Van Jones. This might not make you happy because you’re an out of touch ideologue, but it just happens to be the truth. All of the gnashing of teeth and liberal caterwauling won’t change reality to bend towards their cemented, however distorted, ideological view.
headless lucy spews:
Communist = opponent of wingnuts
Which parts of Das Kapital did Jones find most appealing?
How can you label a person as communist when neither one of you really understands what it is?
That’s why guys like you are McCarthyites. You should read the story of good King Canute.
manoftruth spews:
not only is beck a liar, but on his show today he showed an a tape of a sting of an acorn office showing two acorn workers trying to help someone lie to the irs. but he lied because it was a fake video.
Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
MOT,
Really?
BTW Glenn Beck didn’t fund the activity. The lady in the tape talking to the ACORNs funded it out her own funds.
N in Seattle spews:
EFF funding from Sarah Scaife Foundation (links are PDFs) — $50,000 in 2007, $50,000 in 2006 (apparently, they didn’t make the cut in 2008)
EFF funding from Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation (George Will and Pat Toomey are on its Board) — $40,000 in 2008, $50,000 in 2007, $40,000 in 2006, $75,000 in 2005, $75,000 in 2004
Scaife gave EFF much more money (over $250,000) in the past, but the annual reports on their website only go back to 2006.
Darryl spews:
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass @ 15,
“Beck outed a self admitted communit [sic] in Van Jones. “
Correction, he is a self-admitted former communist.
Last I checked, it wasn’t illegal to be a communist. You can read about it on some goddamn piece of paper.
proud leftist spews:
Puddy @ 10
Thank you for dumbing down your post so that the intellectually-challenged, like me, can grasp your point. I greatly appreciate your kind consideration. Sometimes, I underestimate you.
proud leftist spews:
Cynical @ 11
I can’t imagine a better place for Stossel than Fox. A coup? I hardly think so. He’s one of the shrillest shills for tort reform out there. Not much of a thinker, that fellow.
SJ spews:
I intend to photograph the Beck gathering. I would like to be accompanied by one or more liberals carrying (legally) holstered (unloaded)firearms. Realistic stage weapons or blank guns are also welcome buy I am informed that these will also require carry permits.
My object is to provoke discussion and photograph participants. I would carry myself but do not won a gun and I am told it may take several weeks to get a carry permit.
SJ spews:
Puddy … is this something you would do?
Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
SJ,
Funny dude. You need a big black man protecting a rotund white bearded dude? Interesting proposition. But then ylb StrangeEye would know who Puddy is with Puddy knowing who ylb StrangeEye is.
Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
Proud Leftist,
No problem. Puddy figgers if he nice to you Puddy could win the golden Steve this week.
Puddy can’t mention that word cuz Steve will charge me 0.10 per occurrence. So I’ll call it Steve.
Chris Stefan spews:
@19 Darryl,
I love it, on the one hand the wingnuts try to claim they aren’t the ones using McCarthyite tactics. On the other they try to defend their attacks on Van Jones by pointing out he’s a self-admitted former Communist. Like that is the same thing as being a self-admitted pedophile or former Al-Qaeda member.
Getting your panties in a wad because someone was once a Communist or associated with known Communists is right up there with being upset about the negative influence of Rock n’ Roll music on the nation’s youth.
Marvin Stamn spews:
So if there is nothing wrong with being a communist truther, why did he resign.
SJ spews:
@24 HaY pUDDY .. YOU falsely assume that you are the only fellow I know with physiologic levels of melanin.
Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
Empty Minded Chris Stefan,
Apparently paying attention to blog posts is not your forte. Anthony Van Jones said many egregious things since he became a communist. These Van Jones comments have been detailed here in the last few days.
Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
SJ, No, you’ve told me you know others of the higher order melanin persuasion.
SJ spews:
@19 Darryl
AFIK Van never belonged to the CCP or to its ‘merikan associates. Calling him a “communist” would mean that Oppeneheimer, Alinsky, a huge part of sixties intellectuals, most economists trained in math, are also commies.
SJ spews:
@30 so I will give you a Bamaca, no one will suspect that you are Puddy are black and caught wearing.
Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
Wow Puddy expected some return commentary on the Yosi Sargent comments above. Must be the facts. They refute the simplistic story from HuffPo.
Facts tend to hurt liberal minds.
Just like pictures of ACORN and SEIU offices together.
manoftruth spews:
@18
puddy, of course its fake. look at the evidence.
1 everything beck says is a lie
2 acorn would never engage in illegal activity
3 acorn was the orginization that obama, our greatest president, worked for
so, there you have it
Chris Stefan spews:
@30 Puddy,
It really doesn’t matter what he may have said 30 years ago or even yesterday. The big take-away most of us who wern’t paying much attention to this nonsense got was it had something to do with Van Jones being a Communist.
Why is that? Well it might have something to do with most of what I’ve managed to hear about this is wingnut neo-McCarthites pointing their fingers at Van Jones and screeching “HE’S A COMMUNIST” at the top of their lungs.
SJ spews:
Of course VJ is a commiunist .. just like Newt!
I understand Newt takes Communion frequently! Just like that other commie kike, jesu!
Here are other commies to hunt down ..
anyone who studied under Marcuse .. including my wife.
Reagan who joined organization to protect fellow travelers from the MCarthyites.
Oh yeh … Bush who got along just fine with them folks in Beijing.
Geov spews:
A reporter I know (who shall remain nameless, but is somewhat libertarian and would have done a balanced piece) tried to pitch the Seattle Times about three months ago on a magazinish profile of Beck tied to his local roots, his controversial public profile, and his upcoming visit. You’d think that would be a slam dunk, but they turned him down on the grounds, basically, that nobody would be interested. Idiots.
SJ spews:
Geov …
Can you tell us more? can we get the fellow to speak at DL?
tpn spews:
@38: Is anyone in town “printing” real journalism besides ETS! ? Used to be even the Weekly or The Stranger would crank out an occasional good piece.
Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
MOT sorry Puddy missed the Sarcasm!!!!!
ACORN fires the two people then?
MOT not paying attention like Proud Leftist.
Tsk tsk tsk!
Steve spews:
@26 “Puddy can’t mention that word cuz Steve will charge me 0.10 per occurrence. So I’ll call it Steve.”
Well, if that’s how it’s gonna be then I hereby relinquish my rights. Please feel free to use “goat” from now on, Puddy.
Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
Chris Not Paying Attention Stefan,
Be honest for a change Chris. Your kook-aid sites didn’t carry anything on Van Jones along with the liberal MSM. They also skipped this story. He called Republicans a$$holes. He said black kids would never do a Columbine. Etc etc etc
See ya Chris. Stay stupid reading worthless material and happy drinking the kook-aid.
Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
Well Steve, what should Puddy call them?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Darryl spews:
Marvin Stamn @ 28,
“So if there is nothing wrong with being a communist truther, why did he resign.”
You are confused. He isn’t a communist or a truther. In fact, I suspect that the intersection of “set of all truthers” and “set of all communists” is the empty set.
As for your question, his statement was: “I came here to fight for others, not for myself…. I cannot in good conscience ask my colleagues to expend precious time and energy defending or explaining my past. We need all hands on deck, fighting for the future.”
Steve spews:
Ewes?
Darryl spews:
SJ,
“AFIK Van never belonged to the CCP or to its ‘merikan associates. Calling him a “communist” would mean that Oppeneheimer, Alinsky, a huge part of sixties intellectuals, most economists trained in math, are also commies.”
I didn’t say he was a member of the Communist party. I said he self-identified as a Communist. I don’t think it really matters whether he officially joined a party or not:
Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
Darryl@45, you can’t be serious. Look who’s number 46.
Valerie Jarrett said they were watching him when he was in Oakland.
Said only suburban white kids shoot up skuuls
Publicly called Bush a crackhead
and many other acts Puddy has shown before.
SJ spews:
Darryl
I just do not want to let the effin trolls get away with Mccarthyism and radical republican newspeak.
Sure and MANY people, including most economists today (who use marxist modeling) have spent time with, studying with “communists.” because marxist methoids underly fionacial modeling (or so I was taught).
Marcuse was a communist philosopher. Barb studies with Marcuse at Brandeis, I did not but have benefited greatly form his lectures.
BTW … I checked. You need a carry perm,it in Seattle even to “carry” a toy gun.
Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
Darryl, here is the Valerie Jarrett video.
Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
Darryl
Van Jones in February 2009 called Republicans “assholes.” That was fine by Valerie Jarrett. She been watching Van since Oakland.
QUESTIONER: When [President George W. Bush] was in office, [Republicans] had a majority; it wasn’t 60, it wasn’t more than 60, but they pushed through all of these bills,” the questioner began. “But when we have, you know, 58, we seem to not be able to move things as progressively as many of us here would want, as Obama wants. I know that he has a strong interest in bipartisanship, but when no Republicans are voting with him, … how were they Republicans able to push things through when they had less than 60 senators, but somehow we cant?
JONES: Well the answer to that is, they’re assholes.
QUESTIONER: I was afraid that was the answer.
JONES: As a technical, political kind of term. And Barack Obama is not an asshole. Now, I will say this: I can be an asshole, and some of us who are not Barack Hussein Obama, are going to have to start getting a little bit uppity.
Steve spews:
@23 “My object is to provoke discussion”
Between Beck followers and progressives? With everybody armed and probably a little hot-headed to boot? Probably not a good idea, SJ.
Steve spews:
@51 “Van Jones in February 2009 called Republicans “assholes.””
Puddy, ewe have a beef with that? Republicans are assholes. Glad I could clear that up for you.
Darryl spews:
Puddybud
“Darryl@45, you can’t be serious. Look who’s number 46.”
Read the 2004 petition. It says the administration may have had foreknowledge of and consciously failed to act on the 9/11 attacks. (Perhaps “Bin Laden determined to attack inside the U.S.” is relevant here?) And it called for a citizen’s investigation of the attacks. If it is “truther” material at all, it is pretty lightweight. Is there any other evidence that he is a Truther???
“Valerie Jarrett said they were watching him when he was in Oakland.
Said only suburban white kids shoot up skuuls”
That doesn’t make either a communist or a truther.
“Publicly called Bush a crackhead”
That seems pretty irrelevant to being a truther or a communist. (BTW: I’ve joked about Bush being a crackhead, too. I’m not a Truther or a Communist.)
“and many other acts Puddy has shown before.”
I don’t think you were following the discussion very carefully….
Darryl spews:
Puddybud,
?”Van Jones in February 2009 called Republicans “assholes.” That was fine by Valerie Jarrett. She been watching Van since Oakland.”
So? This doesnt’t make him a Truther or a Commie.
Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
Darryl
That is the 9/11 Document. Van’s argument was he didn’t know what he was signing but Puddy showed he was one of the originators of the document in an earlier thread last week.
Darryl spews:
SJ,
“I just do not want to let the effin trolls get away with Mccarthyism and radical republican newspeak.”
What the fuck are you talking about? Van Jones’ history isn’t a partisan talking point. It is fact. Even so, my point is that he is not a communist now.
“Sure and MANY people, including most economists today (who use marxist modeling) have spent time with, studying with “communists.” because marxist methoids underly fionacial modeling (or so I was taught).”
“Marxist political economy” has very little to do with “being a communist.” It’s as nonsensical as saying people who are evolutionary biologists are Libertarians.
Empty Suit Obama spews:
haha…just because he and Obama changed their titles to “community organizers” doesn’t change their politics. You see, lil’ Darryl, the word “communist” has a visceral response from we here that love this country, and while it’s not “illegal”, it would preclude both the president and Van Jones from passing a federal background check that citizens must take prior to federal employment (not to mention the affiliation with domestic terrorists the weather underground for the empty suit).
Those are facts Darry. Not your fucking world of theory ensconced in the bubble of ignorance that is our institutions of lower learning.
The fact these 2 won’t wear their ideology on their sleeve merely confirms their collective cowardice to expose their true prejudices. I liken them to Klansmen like Byrd that just put on a suit and declared himself “cured” of hating the black man.
Don’t happen that way anywhere but Oz, Darryl.
Darryl spews:
Puddybud @ 56,
“That is the 9/11 Document.”
???
“Van’s argument was he didn’t know what he was signing but Puddy showed he was one of the originators of the document in an earlier thread last week.”
You did, did you? Why do I sense “Puddyworld interpretation of a wingding extremist site” behind your investigation????
Rujax! spews:
Who in their right mind would advocate for Communism?
Darryl spews:
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass,
“just because he and Obama changed their titles to “community organizers” doesn’t change their politics.”
What the fuck are you babbling about? A “community organizer” is a job title (or occupation), not a political party, you dumbass.
Yes, I know, lil’ dumbass, that “COMMUNI” is a common prefix to both. But that doesn’t make them the same.
“You see, lil’ Darryl, the word “communist” has a visceral response from we here that love this country, and while it’s not “illegal”, it would preclude both the president and Van Jones from passing a federal background check that citizens must take prior to federal employment (not to mention the affiliation with domestic terrorists the weather underground for the empty suit).”
I hate to break it to ya, Squirt, but there are a number of political parties that can be lumped under the heading “Communist” in the United States. That “goddamn piece of paper” means that anyone can belong to those partys. And one cannot be excluded from federal employment based on such membership.
What it, Squirt…your rhetoric comes off as profoundly anti-American.
While we would probably agree that one is exceedingly unlikely to be elected in the U.S. if one is a member of any communist party, Van Jones was not in an elected position. (Not to mention, his communist period was brief and long ago.)
“Those are facts Darry. Not your fucking world of theory ensconced in the bubble of ignorance that is our institutions of lower learning.”
??? Try to calm down and see if you can coherently express yourself, Squirt.
“The fact these 2 won’t wear their ideology on their sleeve merely confirms their collective cowardice.”</i.
I don't think Van Jones' ideology is at all "hidden" and, certainly, Obama's is not.
Your judgement seems to me to be a little clouded by (1) your partisan biases, (2) your stupefying ignorance.
Empty Suit Obama spews:
You really didn’t say anything @ 61, so no bother responding other than YOUR convenient dodge of the assertion that neither of these assclowns would pass a background check for federal employment (minor oversight by you I’m sure) and had to “back door in” to their positions.
Also, the members of ACORN (I believe you’ll find Community Organizer somewhere in that acronym if you look hard Darryl) are communists. They just found a new and improved packaging to make it palatable to a largely apathetic public who aren’t aware of the similarity in code words they both use…e.g. “social justice”. You’re fully aware of this of course, but lying comes second hand to fellow travellers intent on keeping their true agenda hidden from the masses in order effect the “change” they seek for this country.
Keep pissing in the wind Darryl, you needed a shower anyway.
Rujax! spews:
“Empty Suit Obama”‘s problem is that the President of the United States is a progressive, and a black man.
His hatred is palpable.
Ryan spews:
It gets fun, too, when you compare the EFF ideals with things Glen has said:
http://ithoughtathink.blogspot.....ng-jr.html
Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
Darryl, since Puddy has to PROVE he posted it before, HERE is the freaking proof…
Here is the link where Van Jones is the one of the original signatories Darryl of the precursor 9/11 Truthers Group with the SF Truther March in 2002.
Organizing Committee (organizations listed for identification purposes only):
Jan Adams, former associate director, Applied Research Center
Linda Burnham, executive director, Women of Color Resource Center
Max Elbaum, former managing editor, CrossRoads magazine
Adam Gold, STORM
Rebecca Gordon, Seminarians for Peace
Felicia Gustin, co-director, Speak Out
Van Jones, national executive director, Ella Baker Center for Human Rights
Elizabeth (Betita) Martinez, director, Institute for MultiRacial Justice
Here is Van saluting you Darryl
Maybe Van Jones can send you some of his War Times.
Some of Van’s friends reside here with his signature…
Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
Darryl,
Some of Van’s buds…
Empty Suit Obama spews:
@ 65 Puddybud.
Why bother giving Darryl proof? His brain just slips into the learned response of “this goes against what I BELIEVE TO BE TRUE” mode and he purges the data.
Being surrounded by similar drones in academia, Darryl’s beliefs are not only not challenged, but reinforced by fellow practicioners fully ideologically insulated within the institutions of lower learning.
Marvin Stamn spews:
That appears to be SOP for democrats.
How many democrats wanted to sign the healthcare bill without reading it.
Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:
Now ESO@67,
Puddy has to stick up for Darryl a little bit. He did suggest a decent priced BASS Guitar AMP for my son. So Puddy has to cut DH a little slack.
Darryl spews:
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass @ 62
“You really didn’t say anything @ 61, so no bother responding”
In other words, you are saying, “UNCLE!”
“…other than YOUR convenient dodge of the assertion that neither of these assclowns would pass a background check for federal employment (minor oversight by you I’m sure) and had to “back door in” to their positions.”
What the fuck are you babbling about??? I said:
But, more specifically, the Hatch Act clearly specifies that for most federal employees, full participation in any political party or organization is legal. Some classes of employment have restrictions on running for office.
Are you trying to claim that a member of the CPUSA couldn’t get a federal job!?!
BTW: There are some foreign groups that have “communist” in the title that are on the U.S. Terrorist list. I do agree that being a member of such an organization might well preclude federal employment. But for a mainstream communist party in the US? Perfectly legal, ordinary, and acceptable.
“Also, the members of ACORN (I believe you’ll find Community Organizer somewhere in that acronym if you look hard Darryl) are communists.”
No they aren’t you fucking brainwashed moron. There may be some members who are…just like there members of CPUSA at Boing, Microsoft, WA State government, and every other big employer. But ACORN doesn’t hire based on a person being a member of a communist party. Sheesh…what a fucking imbecile you are.
(But…just in case I’m wrong, be sure to have your mommy check for Commies under your bed before you hit the sack tonight. m’kay Squirt?)
“They just found a new and improved packaging to make it palatable to a largely apathetic public who aren’t aware of the similarity in code words they both use…e.g. “social justice”.”
Got CULT there, Dumbass???
“You’re fully aware of this of course, but lying comes second hand to fellow travellers intent on keeping their true agenda hidden from the masses in order effect the “change” they seek for this country.”
Ohh…geeee…you’ve outed us! Where’s the cyanide?
(*Snicker*)
Sobber up, Squirt. Really. I mean it. Maybe we can chat tomorrow.
In the mean time, enjoy this video of John McCain praising ACORN.
Darryl spews:
Puddybud,
“Darryl, since Puddy has to PROVE he posted it before, HERE is the freaking proof…”
??? You didn’t have to prove that you posted something for my sake. I am really not very interested in your Puddyworld bullshit.
“Here is the link where Van Jones is the one of the original signatories Darryl of the precursor 9/11 Truthers Group with the SF Truther March in 2002.”
Did you read the document you linked to? That document predates THE PETITION by a couple of years. How is it relevant? Secondly, the document is not a “Truther” document in any sense. It way predates the 9/11 Commission Report. Finally, the questions being asked are pretty common for the time. By your weird-ass interpertation, 1/2 of America were “PreTruthers” just because they wanted to know what the fuck happened.
“Here is Van saluting you Darryl.”
OH MY GWAD! A SCARRY BLACK GUY!!!!!!!
“Maybe Van Jones can send you some of his War Times.”
I like the slogan: “THE FIRST CASUALTY OF WAR IS TRUTH.” So very true. Except, of course, when you are lied into war. They were on to something, Puddy, weren’t they?
“Some of Van’s friends reside here with his signature…”
I wouldn’t know. But you seem to be mocking a rally against police brutality. You are pro-police brutality Puddy???
(Note: original response edited—I didn’t notice the links in your last three sentences)
Empty Suit Obama spews:
@ 70 ~ Looks like Darryl’s imbibed some liquid courage.
I’ll respond in the morning at around my 5am wake up (your dumbass can check the time stamp).
Too late to deal with your bilge tonight, squirt. Should be easy enough though, you haven’t been shown to be that bright of a fellow.
Darryl spews:
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass,
“I’ll respond in the morning at around my 5am wake up (your dumbass can check the time stamp).”
Sounds good… remember about having your mommy check under the bed first…
Empty Suit Obama spews:
@ 73 ~ Maybe you’ll have the stones to engage at 5am. When your liquid courage has worn off.
Only old people need 8 hours sleep Darryl. Besides, your students described you as, I believe, “disorganized and unprepared”. Does that sound like someone that has had a rested 8 hours sleep?
See you then.
Darryl spews:
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass,
“Maybe you’ll have the stones to engage at 5am.”
Nope. Not me…I am a night person.
“When your liquid courage has worn off.”
Liquid courage comes with a coffee buzz for me. That happens about 8:00 am.
“Only old people need 8 hours sleep Darryl. “
Wrong, as usual. Typically people require fewer hours of sleep per night with age. (But with individual variation in this general trend.)
‘Besides, your students described you as, I believe, “disorganized and unprepared”.’
I don’t think so. It sounds like you’ve been hoodwinked by one of those intertube scams. Try to be less gullible.
“Does that sound like someone that has had a rested 8 hours sleep?”
Not following you, Squirt.
Empty Suit Obama spews:
@ 70 Darryl
Think I cleared that up earlier by saying you didn’t say anything worth responding to, but if it helps you sleep better, go ahead, squirt.
Who said anything about being part of the communist party fucktard? They share the communist ideology and their goal is to implement “social justice”, “economic justic”
etc. All code words for collectivism.
Yes!
Type in the words and the first Google preview of links comes up with this:
See that word “militant” Darryl? I’d have to scour the CPUSA site to find other code words that would set any federal background check into a tailspin, but “militant” is usually a good start when you’re talking about a nation of laws and being part of the federal government that upholds those laws.
That’d be you squirt. On bended knee before the exulted one Barack Obama signifies your obedience to the cult of personality.
Try thinking on your own for a change, Darryl. It’s a much freer experience than just insulating yourself in academia where your ideas aren’t challenged.
Empty Suit Obama spews:
I’ve often said that the comunist party has taken over the Democrat party. If anyone needed further proof, I give you the link at the end of this comment.
some fucking cowards just can’t come out and be who they are. If you’re a filthy stinking communist, just admit it. Don’t hide behind a traditionally once great Democratic party in order to shield yourself from the stigma of the word. Sen.Bernie Sanders up in Vermont is a Piece of shit, but at least he’s his own man and isn’t afraid to put the label that fits his ideology. I can respect that and the office he hold, but not the man.
I see alot of similar themes between the CPUSA and the DNC. Notice some of the people they’re propping up and supporting back in 2004.
Marvin Stamn spews:
Huh??
My uncle is a professor at ucla. I checked his, he got glowing reviews. Checked some of my college band professors, they too got good reviews.
I wonder why you didn’t.
Why are you the victim of an intertube scam?
Darryl spews:
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass,
“Who said anything about being part of the communist party fucktard?”
You made the unsubstantiated claim that “members of ACORN are communists.”
“They share the communist ideology and their goal is to implement “social justice”, “economic justic” etc. All code words for collectivism.”
(* Rolls Eyes *)
That’s it?!? That is the entire basis for why you believe “members of ACORN are communist”? You’re an idiot.
“Yes! Type in the words and the first Google preview of links comes up with this…
See that word “militant” Darryl? I’d have to scour the CPUSA site to find other code words that would set any federal background check into a tailspin, but “militant” is usually a good start when you’re talking about a nation of laws and being part of the federal government that upholds those laws.”
ROTFLMAO!!!! That’s hilarious. Can you provide any REAL evidence that a member of the CPUSA is ineligible for federal employment, or are you just going to pull shit out of your ass? Any (contemporary) news articles to support you? And web sites showing CPUSA as an exclusionary criterion for federal employment?
Seriously…you have made an interesting claim, and one that contradicts both the Constitution and the Hatch act. I really want to know if you can provide any evidence to support it.
“On bended knee before the exulted one Barack Obama signifies your obedience to the cult of personality.”
Yawwwwwnnnn!
“Try thinking on your own for a change, Darryl. It’s a much freer experience than just insulating yourself in academia where your ideas aren’t challenged.”
Lil Ricky, you are most profound…in your ignorance.
Empty Suit Obama spews:
Darryl spews:
Um stupes, you said “communist party”. Being a communist and holding their ideology does not mean they belong to the party. Damn you’re stupid, son. Are all conservatives members of the “Republican party” or are all liberals members of the “Democrat party”? No. Wise up nutty professor.
Is there any other proof you’d like stupes?
I’ve taken these polygraphs and done the federal background checks stupid. A communist that admitted to being such would be flushed at the security screening. If you pulled your fat head out of the world of academia and sniffed a little of the real world out here, this would be common sense.
Yes. Have you ever heard of a federal official that has UNDERGONE the security background check speak before a CPUSA group? know why stupes? Because there are none. Van Jones and the POTUS/TOTUS would have never passed a background check- especially the dim bulb president as he had connections with the weather underground leaders Ayers and Dohrn. Obama would have been out of the screening within about 15 minutes and sent on his way…
That’s just the simple truth Darryl. For someone like yourself that is so simple, even you should be able to grasp this reality.
Darryl spews:
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass,
“Um stupes. Being a communist and holding their ideology does not mean they belong to the party.”
Sure, I’m not arguing otherwise. But that just makes it more difficult for you to substantiate your claim. Where is the evidence that “members of ACORN are communists”?
‘Damn you’re stupid, son. Are all conservatives members of the “Republican party” or are all liberals members of the “Democrat party”?’
No, but I didn’t make a claim they were. You specifically did make a claim that “members of ACORN are communists.” Evidence?
“Is there any other proof you’d like stupes?”
You haven’t offered any evidence. Using words like “social justice” isn’t evidence of being communist, since such words are used frequently in contexts that have nothing to do with communism or even politics. Real evidence might be something like a group statement of affiliation from the members.
“I’ve taken these polygraphs and done the federal background checks stupid. A communist that admitted to being such would be flushed at the security screening.”
More bullshit. Evidence please?
“If you pulled your fat head out of the world of academia and sniffed a little of the real world out here, this would be common sense.”
LOL! I think you are channeling Joseph McCarthy. Wake the fuck up, Lil’ Dumbass!
“Have you ever heard of a federal official that has UNDERGONE the security background check speak at the CPUSA meetings?”
No, but I don’t know of ANYONE who has ever spoken at a CPUSA meeting, so it doesn’t qualify as “evidence.”
“Van Jones and the POTUS/TOTUS would have never passed a background check- especially the dim bulb president as he had connections with the weather underground leaders Ayers and Dohrn.”
So you have claimed. Your claim is still unsubstantiated.
You have also made another unsubstantiated claim that Obama’s affiliation with Ayres would be sufficient to preclude him getting a (non-elected) federal job. Can you provide any evidence to support this assertion?
“Obama would have been out of the screening within about 15 minutes and sent on his way…”
Proof please?
“That’s just the simple truth Darryl.”
No…that is just an unsubstantiated claim from a moron. Really…if your claim is true, please offer something other than your opinion to support it.
“For someone like yourself that is so simple, even you should be able to grasp this reality.”
I sense a disconnect here. I keep asking for evidence, you keep dodging that by spewing opinion.
Do you even comprehend the difference between fact and opinion????
Empty Suit Obama spews:
81. Darryl the derelict spews:
Sure, I’m not arguing otherwise. But that just makes it more difficult for you to substantiate your claim. Where is the evidence that “members of ACORN are communists”?
CPUSA mission statement:
Now ACORNholers mission statement:
Sounds familiar don’t it dope? The commies at ACORN simply repackaged it as I explained to you before.
Only an idiot would think this is true. You yourself don’t believe it, but realize you need to parrot the lies to escape the truth.
Evidence that I’ve taken the polygraph? Sorry dope, but those test aren’t exactly graded and sent back to the person undergoing the test. I know the questions asked and can tell you that Obam wouldn’t pass it- One begins “have you now or have you ever been associated with any group, foreign or domestic who have advocated the overthrow of the U.S. Government”. While Obama wasn’t “in the group” Weather underground, he is friend with those the terrorists Dohrn and Ayers which would sink him right there.
That’s why they had to backdoor Van Jones into a cabinet position. He would have been excluded and Obamas advisors knew that. Putting some idiot like Jones with no experience made about as much sense as putting Obama in his position with no experience.
I did above.
I’ve heard several officials make the claim on TV shows, I’ll track one down for you since you’re too lazy to investigate yourself. No doubt you’ll just dismiss it outright anyway, so not sure if its worth my time.
Yes. I spew fact, You spew opinion. You know they’re facts, but you’re a blind ideologue that just can’t accept reality. Part of your insular academia idealism. Living in a world of theory is comfortable, so why bother you with facts?
Empty Suit Obama spews:
Hmmm
ArtFart spews:
“Organize a constituency of low-to-moderate-income…”
Gee whizzikers…now, what’s the difference between that and recruiting a bunch of trailer-park dwellers and Wally-World shoppers to yell at members of Congress?
Oh, yeah…that’s because the people on Beck’s side aren’t numerous enough to elect people, so all they do is yell. Oh, yeah…I’m sure Puddy has some “explanation” (which nobody else will understand) for most of the teabaggers and birthers being oh, so white.
Rujax! spews:
What’s BAD about any of that. I’d like to know your thoughts, “ESO”.
Empty Suit Obama spews:
Birds of a feather vote together: From the CPUSA website re: elections
http://www.cpusa.org/article/view/731/
Splinter group or not, ACORN is one of several offshoots of the Communist party. The plan is to use diversions and code words, but red speak will always shine through. Note the shared hatred of the “ultra right wing” hysteria shared? Sounds alot like the Hooligans here at the Asylum.
Rujax! spews:
Is that supposed to be some kind of response to #85, “ESO”?
I just don’t get it, man…what are you afraid of?
Is this system so fragile that it can bee broken by one little group? Seriously?
Darryl spews:
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass,
CPUSA mission statement:
…
Now ACORNholers mission statement:
…
WHAT! THE! FUCK! Have you gone mad? Those statements have almost nothing in common!
Let’s dissect the ACORN statement:
Communism? Hardly. This is just organizing people–like most organizations.
Ohmygawd! They used the word “communities” which shares some of the same letters with “communism!” ROTFL!
Fighting discrimination is communism????
What…affordable housing is communist?
Oh…those evil communists…advocating for quality education!!!!!
We know that Republicans are for drowning “public services” in a bathtub, but that doesn’t make EVERYONE ELSE communist….
How DARE they put POOR PEOPLE in charge of their organization! This is just another example of discrimination against the Gated!
Advocating “learning”? Is that the communist link?
I know you wingnuts hate the concept of living wage jobs, but that doesn’t make the rest of the world communists.
There’s that again. New GOP slogan: “You’re either for UNaffordable housing or you are with the communists.” :-)
Ooohhhh, the horrors. The must be communists if they advocate for health care.
Right…nobody but commies want education…
Gee…that sound like commie-speak for “global financial crisis”
LOL, Dumbass.
“Only an idiot would think this is true. You yourself don’t believe it, but realize you need to parrot the lies to escape the truth.”
Huh…Google the phrase “Social Justice” and you get:
Damn…that is a lot of commie-code-talking. Have you contacted the authorities?
“Evidence that I’ve taken the polygraph?”
Absolutely not. Whether or not you have taken polygraph tests is entirely irrelevant to whether or not a member of the CPUSA can be employed by the federal government.
I am asking for evidence to support your claim that a member of the CPUSA either (1) cannot “pass” the government background check, or (2) is ineligible to be employed by the federal government.
“have you now or have you ever been associated with any group, foreign or domestic who have advocated the overthrow of the U.S. Government”.
You moron, the CPUSA doesn’t advocate “overthrow of the U.S. government.” What fucking rock have you been living under?
“While Obama wasn’t “in the group” Weather underground,”
Yeah…probably because he was a child at the time….
“he is friend with those the terrorists Dohrn and Ayers which would sink him right there.”
So you have claimed. Unfortunately, you are just spewing more opinion. I have asked for evidence or proof.
“That’s why they had to backdoor Van Jones into a cabinet position. He would have been excluded and Obamas advisors knew that. Putting some idiot like Jones with no experience made about as much sense as putting Obama in his position with no experience.”
In fact, Van Jones went through a more stringent security check than most federal employees. From the Office of Personnel Management:
“I’ve heard several officials make the claim on TV shows, I’ll track one down for you since you’re too lazy to investigate yourself.”
Please do. I am fascinated by your assertion, and have tried to verify or falsify on my own. So far, I find that CFR and USC are consistent in allowing freedom of association with any political party and adopting any “matters of conscience” (1st Amendment) in political beliefs. All federal employees must sign an oath, but that is not inconsistent with either believing in communist political philosophy or in being a member of the CPUSA or other communist party.
“No doubt you’ll just dismiss it outright anyway, so not sure if its worth my time.”
Seriously, I will try to give any evidence you turn up an appropriate weight. So, statements from 1959 certainly will not count for much. (I mean, courts have overturned “anti-communist” laws passed in during the Red Scare). If you can find something in the CFR or USC, or recent policy statements from the government that directly state membership in CPUSA precludes federal employment, that would be very strong evidence.
An interview with an anonymous “former investigator from the Federal Investigative Services” posted on a Wingding web site? No so much weight. Find an interview with a demonstrable current FIS investigator published in the mainstream media, and you’re talking real evidence.
“Yes. I spew fact, You spew opinion.”
I do spew opinion sometimes and facts at other times. But I know when to spew either. And I understand that in order to substantiate a claim like, “Communists cannot be federal employees” I would have to offer evidence, specifically facts like, actual laws, verifiable anecdotes, court cases, government policy papers, Office of Personnel Management FAQs, etc.
“You know they’re facts, but you’re a blind ideologue that just can’t accept reality.”
Show me the facts to support your claim…that’s all I ask.
“Part of your insular academia idealism. Living in a world of theory is comfortable, so why bother you with facts?”
LOL!!!!
Rujax! spews:
About that “ESO” guy…
…he’s sure got a lot of extra air in his colon.
Empty Suit Obama spews:
WOw, the more I read up on the CPUSA, the more I see the same vile spewage here at HA from our “Progressives” (code words again).Any of the following sound familiar? Comrade Goldy and Darryl are hand in hand with the CPUSA
From CPUSA online:
They even go after Beck for exposing one of their comrades and getting his ass canned. Sound familiar?
Sounds like the CPUSA is not only the same as ACORN, but the cureent Democrat party today. Facts simply don’t lie.
http://www.cpusa.org/article/archive/123/
I’m sure Darrly will obfuscate and declare “that’s not true”, but any sane individual withour an agenda can draw their own conclusions.
This proof enough Darry?
Empty Suit Obama spews:
haha…Darryl marked mine as spam. What an f’ing coward that boy is.
heres the link to Communist party and Progressive to the Democrat party to the President. Birds of a feather.
http://www.cpusa.org/article/archive/123/
Rujax! spews:
You know, “ESO”…it’s impossible to take you seriously.
Darryl spews:
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass,
“I’m sure Darrly will obfuscate and declare “that’s not true”, but any sane individual withour an agenda can draw their own conclusions.”
ROTFLMFAO!!!!
“This proof enough Darry?”
Wait. What??? I asked you for evidence to support your claims and you respond by bolding semi-random passages from some CPUSA web page???
Seriously, Lil’ Dumbass, can you find actual evidence to support your claims?
By “evidence” I don’t mean bolding the word “progressive” (Google “progressive” and you get “Results 1 – 10 of about 96,000,000 for progressive”). The average 12-year-old wouldn’t be so stupid to offer that as evidence.
Empty Suit Obama spews:
Translation: I can’t refute your facts, so I’ll just dismiss them. Poor Rujax! born with a brain and unable to use it.
@ 92- You don’t see any similarity between your “progressive” movement and the Communist party USA? Really? They even gushed over Obam and had all the DNC talking points re: Ultra right wing, Beck, Fox News, etc.
You laugh it off, but you’re same political party as them. Deal with it.
Darryl spews:
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass @ 91,
“haha…Darryl marked mine as spam. What an f’ing coward that boy is.”
Incorrect. Your comment was caught by the Akismet spam service. When I noticed it had been caught, I released it…Dumbass.
“heres the link to Communist party and Progressive to the Democrat party to the President.”
That’s what was important to you???? To link to the CPUSA????
That’s fucking hilarious!!!!
Empty Suit Obama spews:
@ 95 ~ I noticed you didn’t answer the question @ 94.
Thanks for clearing up the spam thing. It posted, but then disappeared shortly after. This has happened before here at this site so I just figured it the same had happened again.
Empty Suit Obama spews:
Incorrect. Your comment was caught by the Akismet spam service. When I noticed it had been caught, I released it…Dumbass.
when I saw you release it I changed that post to read “hmmm”. Don’t you think as an academian that it’s dishonest to misrepresent my post by leaving the original post and not the amended one? The very least, you should have deleted the post that said “hmmm”.
Empty Suit Obama spews:
when I saw you release it I changed that post to read “hmmm”. Don’t you think as an academian that it’s dishonest to misrepresent my post by leaving the original post and not the amended one? The very least, you should have deleted the post that said “hmmm”.
At any rate, you refuse to answer my question about the similarities in the ranting of the CPUSA site and this and other progressive sites, HuFFPo, KOS. You’re the same political affiliation, you just have differing disguises put on to mask your agenda.
Darryl spews:
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass @ 94,
“Translation: I can’t refute your facts”
That couldn’t possibly be a relaistic translation. You have yet to present actual facts.
“You don’t see any similarity between your “progressive” movement and the Communist party USA? Really? They even gushed over Obam and had all the DNC talking points re: Ultra right wing, Beck, Fox News, etc.”
Dude…it doesn’t work that way. If a group like “Porn Stars of America”, gushed for John McCain or the Republican Party, it wouldn’t make Republicans or McCain part of “Porn Stars of America”. Weren’t you supposed to learn that in, like, fifth grade????
“You laugh it off, but you’re same political party as them. Deal with it.”
I am?!?!?! OMG! But, but, but, but, but, Dumbass, I am a Republican!
Empty Suit Obama spews:
More spam filtering Darryl? You’re not intelligent to make your argument so you just scrub what you don’t like.
I should expect that level of discourse from a University professor firmly planted within the institutions of lower learning.
Darryl spews:
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass,
‘when I saw you release it I changed that post to read “hmmm”. Don’t you think as an academian that it’s dishonest to misrepresent my post by leaving the original post and not the amended one? The very least, you should have deleted the post that said “hmmm”.’
I have NO IDEA what you are babbling about. I saw a long comment from you in the spam queue, and I changed it’s status to “Approve.”
That’s all I saw and all I did.
Darryl spews:
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass,
“More spam filtering Darryl? You’re not intelligent to make your argument so you just scrub what you don’t like.”
Indeed, it seems that many (if not all) of your comments are being trapped by Akismet. I have no control over that other than to release them as I see them. (And I think you can see that I’ve released all of your comments.)
Just to clarify, you are not on “Moderate status.” Rather, the spam filter (Akismet) is trapping your comments.
Since Aksimet doesn’t publish their algorithm, I can only speculate on what you can do.
(1) Change your handle and email address
(2) If possible, change your IP address (turn off your modem for awhile and see if a new IP address comes up). If you get a new IP address you will almost certainly solve the problem.
(3) Time seems to help–Akismet should lower your spam score over time (but I can’t say for sure).
Darryl spews:
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass,
You asked:
Whoa…Squirt. We have some unfinished issues to deal with first. Tell you what…you provide definitive evidence to prove your contentions that (1) A member of the CPUSA cannot be a federal employee, and (2) that ACORN members are all communist OR fess up if you cannot do so, and I will gladly answer your question.
manoftruth spews:
LOL….this country is fucking amazing..i post a sarcastic, obviously ridiculous charge that glen beck faked the acorn video. and guess what? scot levinson (of course), said the video was doctored…fucking amazing. by the way, there were two lawyers quoted for acorn today, scot levinson and mark swartz. hmmm. levinson and swartz. kind of funny after seeing pictures of all those acorn workers. i dont know, a little like a boxer and his managers and agents. and the boxers always get fleeced by their agents, (not to mention they also get smashed in the face)
Empty Suit Obama spews:
Sure. It’s the same questionnaire the Administration made sure that Van Jones didn’t fill one out..because they’d have failed it. Conversely, do you admit that the administration didn’t follow protocol by not having him fill one out?
Now, how many other questions would fail a CPUSA person?
I already provided their similar mission statement of social justice, economic justice, etc. Similar code speak just packaged and delivered in increments so infiltration is easier.
Do you really think someone this day and age can just say “hi, I’m a communist and I’d like you ask for your help in the community”. No, didn’t think so Darryl.
Darryl spews:
“Sure. It’s the same questionnaire the Administration made sure that Van Jones didn’t fill one out..because they’d have failed it.”
Unlikely–details to follow….
“Conversely, do you admit that the administration didn’t follow protocol by not having him fill one out?”
I have no idea. Do you have evidence he didn’t?
‘Question 61 [of 63 over 7 pages] reads as follows: “Have you had any association with any person, group or business venture that could be used – even unfairly – to impugn or attack your character and qualifications for government service?”’
Thanks for providing the question. That looks like it came from the Obama vetting questionnaire (discussed below). I do agree that someone who has been a member of the CPUSA would have to report that, and then they might not, for political reasons, be hired. But in the Van Jones case, there is no evidence he ever joined any CPUSA or any other Communist party or group or venture. Alternatively, he may have reported his flirtation with communism, but it was considered irrelevant for his position.
Of course, this still does not get at the claim that “member of the CPUSA cannot be a federal employee.” You seem to imply that all federal employees fill out the Obama vetting questionnaire! They don’t.
(Almost) all federal employees undergo a security check through the Office of Personnel Management. The question is whether being a member of CPUSA would prevent a person from being hired.
I’ve looked, and found no evidence that this is true (in the past several decades). Indeed, the law seems to allow any political affiliation (except for organizations deemed terrorist groups, obviously.)
There is a small class of people–cabinet and high-level White House folks–who get a much more extensive check-out. It is explained here.
The three check-outs are: (1) a political vetting, (2) FBI security check, and (3) Office of Government Ethics ethics check.
The political vetting includes filling out this form (from which you got the above question). Notice that this isn’t a security questionnaire.
And the latter two checkouts:
“Now, how many other questions would fail a CPUSA person?”
None that we have uncovered, in general.
“[RE ACORN are commies] I already provided their similar mission statement of social justice, economic justice, etc. Similar code speak just packaged and delivered in increments so infiltration is easier.
And I have pointed out that your imagined similarities in mission statements don’t rise to any serious level of “evidence.”
“Do you really think someone this day and age can just say “hi, I’m a communist and I’d like you ask for your help in the community”.
Just because it isn’t easy for you to prove, doesn’t mean you are entitled to spew groundless nonsense as “evidence.”
Your “code word” method would be laughed out of a court of law (if not slapped with a contempt citation).
Try harder, please.
Empty Suit Obama spews:
Right. The CPUSA’s questionnaire would have been less exhaustive than Jones’ and thus would deem the member unworthy for consideration for security clearance.
Actually that is false. Not only did Van Jones belong to the group Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM), he was a the founder of it. Add that to his self admission of being a “rowdy black nationalist” and “communist” and it’s pretty evident to the most casual observer that he wouldn’t be hired to change out the toner let alone control billions of dollars for “green jobs”.
It’s obvious you’re just playing coy on this Darryl and nothing either of us is going to change our position on this. Van Jones is gone not because of an investigation done by the main stream media, but by a radio talk show host. How embarrassing is it that the main stream lap dogs in this country, the 4th estate, have become cheerleaders for one political party and specifically, one uniqe individual that is simply in their eyes, too big to fail. The reason the left can mobilize and have done so is because he is the only one that has outed Jones with evidence he’s obtained by linking the various players involved. Had the 4th estate been doing their job, there would be multiple media outlets simultaneously reporting the facts and not ignoring the story as they’ve done. It’s right out of alinsky playbook to recognize the enemy, isolate it, and exterminate it. This is the game at play for the president too big to fail.
Prediction: ACORN has more legal problems and will hopefully be investiaged under RICO statues. This will not occur under a corrupt Obama administration that turned its back on ‘voter intimidation’ in Philadelphia,PA at a voting location with 3 armed thugs, so don’t expect much in the way of Justice to come out of Eric “I caught Elian” Holder and his “Just us” department.
New video part 1 here and part 2 here shows ACORNholers aiding and abetting not only fraud, but international human traficking for the purpose of underage prostitution.But the silence is deafening from any media outlet other than FOX news and talk radio, which are the only existing true members of the 4th estate today in this country.
The only rebut to this video will be “Well, its obvious that was staged in some FOX noise studio and produced by Glenn Beck”. Clueless.
Don Joe spews:
Darryl, is that really Little Ricky Dumbass trying to hide inside that Empty Suit? Wouldn’t be at all surprising given his attempt to argue the logical equivalent of “basketballs and pumpkins are both round and orange, therefore pumpkins are basketballs.” What’s really funny is watching this guy trip all over the pumpkin pieces while trying to dribble in for a layup.
Darryl spews:
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass,
“Right. The CPUSA’s questionnaire would have been less exhaustive than Jones’ and thus would deem the member unworthy for consideration for security clearance.”
?????
“Actually that is false. Not only did Van Jones belong to the group Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM), he was a the founder of it.”
Yes…I stand corrected. He did belong to a communist affiliated orginization.
‘Add that to his self admission of being a “rowdy black nationalist” and “communist” and it’s pretty evident to the most casual observer that he wouldn’t be hired to change out the toner let alone control billions of dollars for “green jobs”.’
Wait a minute…this is just more bullshit opinion. You still have not risen to the challenge. I have agreed that politically, belonging to a communist group could well prevent him for working in the White House. But you have (and are now) suggesting that he couldn’t pass a security check for any federal job. The law does not seem to be on your side. In fact, it would be illegal to deny him a job for being an active or past member of any political group or party.
“It’s obvious you’re just playing coy on this Darryl and nothing either of us is going to change our position on this.”
Huh…I guess this means that you cannot prove that (1) A member of the CPUSA cannot be a federal employee, and (2) that ACORN members are all communist.
Is that correct?
Darryl spews:
Don Joe,
“Darryl, is that really Little Ricky Dumbass trying to hide inside that Empty Suit?”
It sure sounds like him!
“Wouldn’t be at all surprising given his attempt to argue the logical equivalent of “basketballs and pumpkins are both round and orange, therefore pumpkins are basketballs.” What’s really funny is watching this guy trip all over the pumpkin pieces while trying to dribble in for a layup.”
Indeed. I am, frankly, startled by his inability to differentiate between fact and opinion. Seriously, I though they taught that in school….
Another TJ spews:
I though they taught that in school…
Indoctrination!!one!!!eleven!!!
Empty Suit Obama spews:
I did all of the above, but your blind allegiance to your ideology precludes you from seeing it. I can’t help you any further.
Darryl spews:
Lil’ Empty Suit Dumbass @ 112,
“I did all of the above, but your blind allegiance to your ideology precludes you from seeing it. I can’t help you any further.”
No you didn’t. You offered your opinion without actual evidence. (And sorry, but your word association game is utter bullshit. I was kind-of hoping for real EVIDENCE; you offered fucking tarot card reading).
Empty Suit Obama spews:
Whatever Darryl. You’re a legend in your own mind, and that’s all that matters, right? The perfect specimen for living in the bubble of ignorance that is academia. You’re not a fool that doesn’t see the code word connections, but you’re simply an ideological drone that pretends there is no such correlation between them.