Digby discusses the arrest of Henry Louis Gates and our views of police power.
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I cannot disagree with a lot of what this guy says. However the irony for me is that I do not see an Obama doing a thing to rein in out-of-control police that we have all across the land.
Was there any accountability attached to the stimulus money showered on LE agencies? Has Obama ever expressed reservations about the militarization of police? The head of the Fraternal Order of Police said he was ‘taken aback’ by Obama’s handling of the controversy, since Obama previously “had been pretty good to law enforcement.”
Obama, it seems to me, scores a double whammy here. He excuses the unreasonable actions of his friend, then turns around and excuses the unreasonable reaction of the cop. What good does that do?
I’ve been saying this for some time (though not as eloquently nore artfully as digby, whose writing I admire). Tasers are dangerous and dangerously overused. Their original intent was to provide a non-lethal option for officers to use when they determined that there was an immminent threat that a citizen would harm him/herself or others.
But now they is used for compliance, and for punishment, for as little as an officer’s opinion that you are being either recalcitrant or not sufficiently respectful, and no penalties for use are ever imposed. An officer causing this kind of pain and potential damage by means other than the Taser would be brought up on charges. But for some reason (perhaps because it “leaves no marks” when shoved against an anus and triggered) we as a society have decided to turn our heads and ignore this use of excessive force.
We need clear and explicit policies discouraging these excesses, these policies should be public, and there should be clear, consistent, and sufficiently punitive enforcement for violations of the policy by officers.
digby is female, btw, not that it matters…
@1
Was there any accountability attached to the stimulus money showered on LE agencies?
Definitely not. My biggest criticism of the stimulus package was a re-increase of funds for the drug task forces that were slowly being eliminated under Bush. Some of these agencies have done a lot of damage because there’s no real accountability and the small town justice systems that these forces operate in simply don’t question what they do. That’s how things like Tulia and Hearne have happened.
Oh, and Digby is a woman. :)
When gates showed his harvard id was his address on it?
Did he show that because his drivers license had a different address on it from a different home he owns? If I was at my place in metaline falls and was asked by a sheriff to show my picture id, I wouldn’t have any to prove I lived there. Of course I would pick up utility bills which have my name and washington address on them. I wouldn’t show them my musicians union id and expect that to suffice.
No mention on left-leaning blogs about the boston globe story about gates and his “bogus” charity.
@5
What are you talking about? No one’s even arguing whether or not the officer really knew it was Gates’ home. The officer knew it was his house. The issue was about arresting him for being condescending and disrespectful to the cop.
Get with the program.
We did learn a couple of things in the past 48 hours.
Racism is alive and well in the White House.
The president will announce his opinion on an issue without knowing all of the facts.
He is completely unable to admit he was wrong and even in his so called explanation he fails to get the facts correct.
Obama doesn’t think his shit stinks. IT DOES!
His support is dropping like a rock!
President Barack Obama has made a real idiot of himself in passing judgment on the police officer who arrested pompous do-you-know-who-I-am Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates.
The only way to stop it would be some kind of device that causes the user to get the same shock he’s giving.
Then it would be interesting to see what the victim would be charged with in relation to the aberrant officer.
re 7: The fact of the matter is that a cop arrested someone for breaking into their own house because they didn’t like the person’s attitude.
There’s no ‘both were wrong’ here.
@7
What did Obama get wrong? When the Cambridge officer arrested Gates, he made a mistake. If you don’t understand that, the link in this post explains why. Read it.
He’s not interested in reading it, Lee. He’s interested in hissing about losing in November.
According to NPR
He (Gates) said he then followed the officer as he left his house onto his front porch.
According to Obama the police pulled Gates out of his home
So who is lying NPR or Obama?
#11
I am just one of the millions of voters who now realize we were suckered into voting for this idiot.
Personally, I don’t trust cops any more than I trust politicians. I’m concerned about the militarization of the police forces, too: they seem to like to don Army gear, as if they’re mounting a frontal attack on some huge opposing force. A little less SWAT and a little more community police work is in order. Cops, improve your image with the locals. If you all want to play Army, go enlist. You’ll get to play with really, really big guns in Afghanistan or Iraq!
how typical….everyone bashes the cops – that is until they need one.
Obama made an ass out of himself with the comment – and the asshole professor got what he had coming for being such prick.
a little research into this “professor” and you will discover what a pompous asshole he is, not to mention a scam artist.
Harvard Professor Failed Police Personality Test
Did Harvard Professor fail police personality test? You’ve heard all the highbrow intellectualizing about it now back to what really happened.
http://artistdogboy.blogspot.c.....ality.html
I’ll certainly “bash” cops who make stupid busts based on their own irritation and to satisfy their petty need for revenge.
My question is: how many other black men (and white men) have gone to jail when the DA WOULDN’T drop the bullshit charges as he did in this well-publicized, high-profile bust of a prominent academic?
As I said before, once Gates was IDed as the owner and resident, this should have been OVER.
The day has come, it appears, that we can not say what we want, to whom we want, in manner we want in our own home.
Once Gate’s right to the home was established, and clearly that right was established, he had the right to order the policeman out in any language and/or tone he wished.
The policeman got his butt hurt. Too bad. Gates acted like an asshole. Again, too bad.
Being an asshole is not against the law. Arresting a man for talking to the police in a manner they don’t like ought to be…..
Puddy, Cyniclown, troll and Mark1 would have come unglued by the “government” butting in to their lawful right to enter or occupy their own home. To spin it any other way is duplicitous, disingenuous and dangerous.
The issue not whether the officer was justified, the issue is what caused this officer to believe he could arrest a man in his own home for speaking to him in a manner he did not particularly care for. Again, he got his boxers in a bind because someone did not “respect” him. And again, too bad.
The view from here is the officer needs to be “re-educated” and Mr. Gates needs a manners class.
This home is my castle. It is my property. No one shall enter without a lawful warrant, absent my permission. Woe be to those who would seek to violate this most basic of rights.
All that said, common sense will rule my response.
15 HJ
And when did you get your Ph.D. and tenured position at Harvard?
Henry Louis Gates
– B.A. summa cum laude in History from Yale
– first African-American to receive the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation Fellowship
– Ph.D. in English from Cambridge University
– received multiple honorary degrees and awards for his teaching, research, and development of academic institutions to study black culture
– selected to give the Jefferson Lecture in 2002, in recognition of his “distinguished intellectual achievement in the humanities”
– host of the 2006 and 2008 PBS television miniseries African American Lives, exploring the genealogy of prominent African Americans
– currently serves as the Alphonse Fletcher University Professor at Harvard University, as Director of the W. E. B. Du Bois Institute for African and African American Research
Gates achieved more before he was twenty five than you will in two lifetimes. If that makes him an asshole and a scam artist, what does that make you? Maybe jealous…
digby said it well:
“… if anyone wants to see some real incoherence on this subject, consult the right wingers who are defending the policeman today, but who also believe that anyone has the right to shoot first and ask questions later if they “feel” threatened in their own home. By their lights, Gates should have been arrested for behaving “tumultuously” but would have been within his rights to shoot Sgt Crowley. This is why conservatives have no standing to discuss anything more complicated than Sarah Palin’s wardrobe.”
Isn’t that exactly what right-wingers have been saying would happen under the obama?
No mention of me? What’s up with that?
The cop did not witness the two black males braking into the house. When he shows up, sees a door “jimmied” and only sees one black person, what might he think. That the other burglar is still in the house, calling gates out of the house would prevent the cop being ambushed. If he thought gates might be the legal resident, the two burglars could still be in the house and could be a threat to gates or his family.
Do you doubt that if gate walked outside and presented his drivers license that the incident would have ended in a few short minutes.
What would you be saying if the cop took him at his word (because of course criminals never lie so there’s no need to verify) and left without investigating resulting in gates and his family ended up getting killed.
21 MS
Don’t be an idiot. I know that’s tough for you, but do try.
The cop shows up, talks to Gates, who identifies himself positively as the owner of the house and informs the cop that his driver helped him break into his own house. AT THAT MOMENT, the investigation is OVER.
There’s no mysterious unidentified other man, there’s no need for further investigation. But it is AFTER this identification that the cop arrested Gates.
From Kos
Let’s take a look at where things now stand.
First, Professor Gates and Officer Crowley have accepted President Obama’s invitation to meet together at the White House:
and further…
Second, Cambridge police have applauded President Obama’s comments, saying Officer Crowley was “profoundly grateful” for them:
Excerpted first link:
Excerpted second link:
And third, Congressman Thaddeus McCotter (R-MI) decided to make political hay out of the controversy and waste the time of Congress by appealing to racial disharmony:
To recap:
1. In a show of reconciliation and unity, both Professor Gates and Officer Crowley will meet with President Obama at the White House.
2. The Cambridge police union is happy.
3. In a stunning but perfectly predictable denial of reality, a Republican representative wants Congress to debate a political resolution slamming President Obama and reigniting the controversy.
I’m trying.
Yes it would have been.
Let me ask you a few questions. Of course, if your answers don’t prove your point you are free to not answer.
1. Why do you believe that gates refused to walk outside when asked by the police officer.
2. Why do you believe that gates referred to the cop as racist before providing ID?
3. Instead of providing ID , why do you believe gates called “the chief” to complain about a “racist police officer.”
4. Still without providing ID, why do you believe gates told the cop he had no idea who he was messing with.
5. When the cop was satisifeed that he was the legal resident and was leaving the residence, how do you explain gates following him out yelling at him, even saying “I’;ll speak with your mama outside.”
6. As the cop was descending the stairs to the sidewalk, why do you feel gates kept yelling at him accusing him of racial bias?
Is that how you would react if a cop walked up to you after you got home and seen your front door had been “jimmied” in your absence?
Better yet, a real life test for you. Next time you get pulled over, refuse to show your ID. Call the police names and walk away from him.
Better yet, a real life test for you. Next time you get pulled over, refuse to show your ID. Call the police names and walk away from him.
Yes indeed, because so many of the militarized law enforcement come out of the military, and they practice good Baghdad/Kabul strategies for all stops-legal or otherwise (your taillight was out, oops i guess it wasn’t but i still treated you like a Peshwar tribesman you piece of shit US citizen). Paranoia is no excuse for trashing the US Constitution, but it sure goes a long long way to explain why so many officers choose to ignore guaranteed Constitutional protections. #18 above describes this trolling idiocy best.
And yes shithead fucktards. I just had such a run in with a member of our local law enforcement who intentionally deprived me of no less than six of my US Constitutional protections, reiterating that while he did pull me over instead of the actual vehicle for which he actually had probable cause (no apology though) he adamantly described his paranoid responses, suggesting a 62 years old, white male, in the performance of his duties in a clearly marked corporate vehicle was still a grave threat and danger to him. We don’t need public servants with PTSD running rampant with guns and tasers; but we sure have them.
#24
Who the hell do you think these police officers get their orders from. Lets see, the head of the State Patrol is appointed by democrat governor Gregoire. The Seattle Police chief is appointed by the democrat mayor Nichols and voted on by the socialist controlled city council.
If you have an issue with local police your problem is really with the democrat elected politicians that I would guess you voted for.
Call the governor or mayor and bitch.
In washington, is driving on public roads a right or a privilege the government allows you to enjoy?
I hope you got the cop’s badge number and reported him.
Doesn’t anyone her at HA feel at least a bit condescending?
I do not think Professor Gates is some darkie victim of the gestapo nor do I think Officer Crowley is a booze swigging mick.
Officer Crowley is, to all accounts, a good cop. He is also a lower middle class guy working for the man in one of the most expensive neighborhoods in the USA. Leaving Gates albedo aside, he is a very wealthy andpowerful guy. He certainly would not be the first big shot to be pissed at not getting special treatment. For that matter, he just got off of a 10 hour flight. What did he drink on that flight? I usually have some wine esp if like Gates I am flying in thefront cabin.
Leaving skin color aside, Professor Gates is an extra ordinary and very rational guy. It would be a great treat to know him . He stands in the first class of our society. Still, as a black man, I would be very surprised if the Prof has not been offered tips to carry some white dude’s bags (as friends of mine have happen in front of me). It is entirely possible that Officer Cowley doesnot watch PBS and did not recognize Dr. Gates.
So maybe the issue is class and race? Upper class people DO treat cops badly. White folks do presume they are “better” than black folks. Either way, I suspect neither man needs to be talked down to by anyone. Officer Crowley, for one, certainly deserved a lot more respect from Mr.Obama.
On other hand, the effin media needs to grow up. Our president is a human, he surely makes a lot fewer faux pas then his predecessor.
Hell, if I were Prof. Gates I would invite the Officer to do some teaching to my elite students! In trade, Officer Crowley might invite the Prof tohang around the station for a day or two. Then ol Barack can join both of them for a dinner of corn beef and cabbage at Pat’s Tavern in Southie!
cross posted to SJ
Lee and John are such predictable little PC tools, pushing stories where blacks are the victims, and looking the other way when blacks are the criminals.
How on earth does a story about some black professor being arrested, then released after a few hours, trump a local story of a black man raping, then stabbing to death a white woman?
I think both parties overreacted. Professor Gates was in the right to believe that once he proved who he was and that it was his house, the officer should have been more easy-going. Why did the officer want him outside? So the neighbors could see him? But Gates was probably exhausted from the long flight, took exception to the officer’s queries and went off. It probably wasn’t the mature or smart thing to do but it wasn’t illegal. And again, the officer took him outside where the scene got created.
But lastly, I know the black officer with Officer Crowley backs him up but what does Gates’ driver say about the whole thing? I haven’t heard about that side of it.
21
You must be the dumbest motherfucker in the universe.
IN THE HOUSE, GATES PRESENTED ID. THE ISSUE OF WHETHER HE BELONGED IN THE HOUSE WAS RESOLVED. He have been lippy, but he ID’d himself to the officers satisfaction. AT THAT POINT he was within his right to ORDER THE POLICEMAN TO LEAVE. His probable cause to be in the house EXPIRED the moment Gates PROVED his right to be there. Not five minutes later, not thirty seconds later, but, right fucking now.
Absent a warrant, absent a threat to officer safety, absent a threat of self harm my Mr. Gates the officer was, BY LAW, compelled to leave. He was not feeling threatened since he asked Gate to FOLLOW HIM OUTSIDE. You do not allow a threat to get behind you when you are concerned about an attack or harm. He wanted him outside to be able to say he was “disturbing the peace”. Gates should have merely closed the door once the officer passed the threshold. (Although Teresa made the observation that perhaps it could be argued that the attached porch is also the home).
DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW? As I said, Gates was an asshole Being an asshole is not against the law.
If being an asshole was against the law you would have received two or three life sentences by now.
Marvin likes to fuck around and twist words.
My turn. (Italics are Marvin’s “questions”
Let me ask you a few questions. Of course, if your answers don’t prove your point you are free to not answer.
1. Why do you believe that gates refused to walk outside when asked by the police officer?
Because he was in his home, he proved he was in his home and he did not want to go outside. The cop ASKED him. He had every right to refuse. But, idiot stick, he did go outside.
2. Why do you believe that gates referred to the cop as racist before providing ID?
Perhaps he sensed “attitude”. The same way the cop did.
3. Instead of providing ID , why do you believe gates called “the chief” to complain about a “racist police officer.”
Marvin is hallucinating here. No call was made. He would not have been allowed a phone, he was a suspect in a “burglary” at first. (Fuck, Marvin, what are you smoking?)
4. Still without providing ID, why do you believe gates told the cop he had no idea who he was messing with.
All uppity rich people think their shit don’t stink. Nothing here but a straw man.
5. When the cop was satisifeed that he was the legal resident and was leaving the residence, how do you explain gates following him out yelling at him, even saying “I’;ll speak with your mama outside.”
Gee, dumbass, this is because the cop asked him to come outside. Gates did not have to go, and he could have said “I’ll speak to your fucking pussy ass you pantie wearing cocksucker”. It was not illegal. (Why don’t Wingnuts get this part?)
6. As the cop was descending the stairs to the sidewalk, why do you feel gates kept yelling at him accusing him of racial bias?
Because he felt it was. Again, his ownership of the house was established and he can say what he feels. He must have read that from the cop’s attitude. Same as the cop read “dickheaded asshole” from Gate’s attitude.
Is that how you would react if a cop walked up to you after you got home and seen your front door had been “jimmied” in your absence?
Jesus H. Christ. Where have you seen “jimmied” in any account of this incident? They turned the lock, the door was STUCK. They put a shoulder into it and shoved it open. No “jimmying” required or evident. So you see, Marvin, the only “evidence” the cop saw was TWO BLACK MEN IN A VERY EXPENSIVE HOUSE, IN A VERY EXCLUSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD, IN A VERY WHITE AREA OF BOSTON. (Hint: This maybe where Gates deduced the racism he felt).
Better yet, a real life test for you. Next time you get pulled over, refuse to show your ID. Call the police names and walk away from him.
When an officer asks me for ID I ask “what did I do”? As he answers I am reaching for my ID. If the officer decides to do a little fishing concerning my car, where I am going, where I have been…I request a supervisor. If the officer requests to search my car (has happened once in rural Louisiana) I refuse. It is called a warrant and they need one. Makes them mad and accusatory, but that is not my problem.
We all have rights. We should choose to use them and not give them up because some knucklehead with a badge and a gun asks us too.
I fought too hard, too long to allow anyone to trample rights. You can mail yours in with a pretty little bow if you choose.
I’m not denying that. This time, not.
The police report says that he was asked out of the house before he was asked to show id.
As per the police report… The cop asked him out. He refused and asked who the cop was. The cop said he was responding to a call of break in in progress. Gates opened the door and said, “why, because I’m a black man in america?” The cop asked if anyone else was in the house and gates replied it was none of his business and accused the cop of being a racist police officer. The cop assured him he was responding to a citizens call to the police department
Why do I have to be smoking something to ask questions directly from the police report?
Continuing from the police report… After being assured the cop was responding to a call. Gates seemed to ignore me and picked up a cordless phone.
Are you insinuating that ALL people that are rich are “uppity” or that ALL the “uppity” rich people think their shit don’t stink?
The cop did not ASK him out at this point. From the police report… “I told gates I was leaving his residence and that if he had any questions regarding the manner, I would speak with him outside.” Sounds like after the cop got the harvard id and he radioed the info to the station he was satisfied and going to leave.
For a scholar, he sure didn’t act logical.
My bad. I never should have believed the words of someone that campaigned on the slogan, “words matter.”
OBAMA: …What’s been reported though is that the guy forgot his keys, jimmied his way to get into the house.
Huh?? The only mention of TWO BLACK MEN in the police report was from the neighbor that called the police. The cop didn’t see any second black male. Why are you lying? If I’m the dumbass you claim, why do you have to lie to refute my points?
I have an idea, read the police report and then reply again to #23. Let us see if after learning the facts if your opinion changes.
Were you drinking last night when you replied? You usually aren’t this clueless. Maybe after sleeping it off you might be able to do a better job or responding to my questions.
The police report says once the cop got the harvard id and radioed it in he was ready to leave.
Since the officer was responding to a call of two black men and he only saw one, he might have believed the other burglar is still in the house, calling gates out of the house would prevent the cop being ambushed. If he believed gates might be the legal resident, the two burglars could still be in the house and could be a threat to gates or his family. Calling him outside was for the safety of both the cop and gates.
1. I don’t drink, Marvin.
2. The police reports accuracy is in dispute. This is still a he said-he said story.
The facts are a man was arrested for being mouthy on HIS OWN PROPERTY and demanding an explanation from a police officer who was not inclined to “submit” his “authority” to a citizen. In an effort to “show this man who is in charge” the officer made a bogus arrest that was bounced. Gates was probably lucky he was so well known. The officer just had the dumb luck to pick on someone capable of fighting back on terms greater than his own.
They were both wrong. The cop used his “authority” to tilt the field to his favor and that is the issue here. The issue is not Gates mouth. Being an asshole is not illegal. Asking someone if they are racist is not illegal. Telling someone they are racist is not illegal.
Why do wingnuts not understand this?
@29
The driver had left before the cops arrived.
Officer Crowley was following normal procedure when he asked Gates to step outside .. the object of that is t protect Gates in case there is an intruder inside trhe house.
I wish everyone, the media included, were to stop trying HLG and Officer Crowley as if we were all in a courtroom. These seem to be two very responsible adults. They ought to both show that by shaking hands or having a beer and moving on.
This is just sheer nonsense. And predictably the very type of argument over the number of angels that can dance on a pin head that we should expect from hypocrites in these instances.
Look, it is stipulated that at the point when the officer ordered Professor Gates out onto the porch, the officer understood that no break in had taken place. He had determined the citizen he had contacted to be the owner of the residence. He understood that nobody else was in the home. Stop inviting the world to argue over irrelevant speculative detail of no consequence simply to divert attention away from the issues.
If you dispute that the sky is blue, then fine. But don’t devolve into stupid irrelevant micro disputes concerning color theory and the electromagnetic spectrum. It’s weak and asinine.
If you think the officer was in the right and not exceeding his authority for illegitimate purposes, and if you think Professor Gates deserved to be arrested, handcuffed, and hauled away to jail in front of his neighbors for arguing with a police officer, then sack up and say so.
If so, doesn’t that prove the cop is a racist.
Why else would he have filed a false police report if not to cover up the truth.
If the cop isn’t charged with filing a false police report, doesn’t that prove the police department is racist?
Apparently the HA Libtardos didn’t read all the police incident reports. Also if you saw the Tampa picture which the Boston Globe took down. You can see this on MSNBC Notice the black officer in the foreground. Of course he’d be called an uncle tom by ROTCODDAM.
Of course MS Digby skipped “The white police sergeant accused of racial profiling after he arrested renowned black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. in his home was hand-picked by a black police commissioner to teach recruits about avoiding racial profiling.” Puddy placed this on the blog before. HA Libtardos forget facts which explode their argument.
Now Puddy ain’t a fan of Dr Gates. Puddy acknowledges his mental scholarship but when he started on the dozens with the cop(explain that to the white HA Libtardo peeps ROTCODDAM) he lost my last ounce of support.
Are your readers supposed to be able to read any of that gibberish, pud?
Still, what vague sense I can glean out of it, it would appear to be yet more change-the-subject/debate-irrelevant-trivia nonsense.
What possible difference could it make what race the arresting officer is, any Harvard police called, or the chief of Cambridge PD? What bearing does any of that have to the facts of the case? Good Gawd you’d make an appallingly bad attorney.
Officer Crowley acknowledges that he argued with Professor Gates, brought him out onto the porch, produced handcuffs and threatened Gates with arrest, all after having confirmed that Professor Gates was the owner and resident of the house.
The whole incident may have very little to do with race. In fact, since reading for comprehension obviously eludes you, you might note that this is precisely what Digby is suggesting. The cop exceeded his authority, broke the law, and put his taxpayers on the hook for a hefty settlement. He probably did it because, like you, he’s an asshole with lots of problems, but, unlike you, most of them have nothing to do with race. All the distracting gibberish and side arguments over trivial minutiae in the world won’t change that. For either Crowley or you.
OF COURSE he’s an Uncle Tom, Shitferbrains. SO ARE YOU!
The original Uncle Tom was far more more coherent and literate than you, but we can’t have everything, can we?
That wasn’t in the police report.
Do you have a link where crowley acknowledges he brought gates out to the porch and produced handcuffs?
The “racist lying white cop” wrote that he was followed.
“Ya, I’ll speak with your mama outside.” Gates wryly suggests Crowley got the line from watching “Good Times” as a child.
Someone is lying.
Release the tape.
Most transparent administration ever we’ve been told.
Oh sweet baby Jeebus!
My left foot was right. You really are the dumbest motherfucker in the universe. You link arms with a paragon of effete cocktail culture like Dowd to vainly attempt to lead your audience in the shit-for-brains conservative Hokey Pokey and you expect me to join the dance?
Fuck you. I don’t dance.
I noticed you didn’t provide a link-
No worries.
I wasn’t expecting you to show up to the dance.
24 MS
The victim’s account and the police report are not in agreement. If you want to believe the police report, that’s your business. But I will not answer questions based on a chronology that I believe is at best flawed and at worst fictional. A lawsuit should clarify a lot of things.
24 MS
As for what I “believe” I believe that Henry Louis Gates was mightily pissed off because aftger a long, long flight from Asia and having to break into his own house he was being treated as a perp in his residence by a cop. I believe that Gates is one of the foremost students and teachers of black-white relations and civil rights in this country, and I believe that he knows as well or better than anyone about the words and behaviors that constitute prejudicial treatment by civil authority.
I believe that being mightily pissed off and that telling the cop about it, at great and articulate length and with a great deal of bitterness and rancor, is Gates’ absolute civil right and freedom of speech as a citizen and I believe that it is also well within his legal rights.
I also believe that the cop brought him out of the house at the end because he had to have Gates in a public place in order to justify the charge of disorderly conduct.
And I believe that the police report and Gate’s account are each incomplete and self-serving.
Add me as a co-signer to Daddy Love’s post at 47.
(With his permission, of course.)
Marvin, been down at the Hispanic Festival at the Seattle Center today so Puddy missed the festivities. Was looking for clueless wondermoron and his family since it’s his peeps.
Still waiting for ROTCODDAM to tell us the link.
It was very clear ROTCODDAM. The two police reports match. Puddy believes Dr Gates talked about the policeman’s momma. Did you look at the MSNBC info? Didya see Dr Gates yelling at the black policeman? Did you see the look of disgust on the policeman’s face?
Why does Puddy dislike Black Americans?
I don’t get it, Pud. This is clearly a case of the police over-stepping. You voted for Palin over a well educated Black man, now this. How can a man be arrested for being an asshole on his own property after he proves his right to be there?
I am not going to accuse you of anything, Puddy, but this is looking more and more like you are not thinking things through. Ideology being more important than facts.
Carl, first off as Puddy always does, how are you doing? How is the ticker? How is Tereza?
Now to your “point”. Puddy didn’t vote for Palin. Contact clueless wondermoron. He’s archived every Puddyism here on HA Libtardos. Puddy wrote this over and over.
Puddy watches how libtardos respond to police. Dr Gates flipped, plain and simple. He even went to the dozens. Ask ROTCODDAM what the dozens are. He verbally attacked the sergeant in front of other officers. It’s interesting how you promote his lessons as superior in every aspect.
BTW Carl My Left Foot, Puddy loves my people. Puddy supports his people with charitable contributions every month. Puddy hates how my people implement minority donkoinfanticide. Puddy likes the guy who wrote the Tea Party Theme. He’s a black man too. Did you read what Puddy placed here from a libtardo who said he needs to know where his place is?
Hope you had a good time.
Gates sure is getting a lot of press the last week. Even the president is talking about him.
Now would be a good time for him to release a CD, movie, teev show or something.
He would be stupid to let this opportunity slip when he could profit off of it.
Puddy …
What do you think about the whole classist thing here? Self important Harvard elitist prof gets pissed by Irish Cop treating the prof like an ordinary citizen?
Wonder whether HLG would consider doing a documentary on Boston’s poor Irish?
SeattleJew’s Sockpuppet,
Class warfare is something dreamed up by Dummocrapts trying to make worthless points. It’s your party who pits the haves vs. the have nots. It’s your party who attacks success. It’s your party which attacked Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell, Michael Powell, Michael Steele, Clarence Thomas, Lynn Swann, because they left the reservation and made something of themselves without the help and handouts of Dummocrapts. That’s why dense as spent uranium rudeASS attacked Juan Williams lately.
Puddy likes the way you addressed Dr Gates as self important. Puddy met Dr Cornel West long ago. Puddy’s older brother knows Dr West very well. Dr West would have reacted much differently, than “Do you know who I am” Skip Gates. Why does Gates need extraordinary treatment? If Dr Gates didn’t flip out this be over.
Then when “the messiah” jumped in to the race question he added gasoline to the fire. Then “the messiah” threw Skip Gates under the bus like he did Dr Jeremiah Wright and his white grandmother. It seems when “the messiah” wants to distance himself from controversy “the messiah” will throw someone under the bus!
The telling action was how the Boston Globe, posts the picture with Skip Gates in cuffs yelling at the black policeman and the black policeman’s face of disgust. That was embarrassing for Skip Gates so they took down the picture. Then Skip Gates has the audacity to ask for an apology when he verbally berates and trashes the cop and he thinks he did nuthin wrong? Puddy was taught words mean something.
Maybe Skip Gates should ask his neighbor why she called the cops in the first place. Was she looking out for Skip Gates or was it cuz she saw to black men trying to break into a house? What was her motivation? She was on the sidewalk as all this occurred.
Did you read the police reports SeattleJew’s Sockpuppet?
“It looked like someone’s footprint was there. So it’s possible that the door had been jimmied, that someone had tried to get in while I was in China. But for whatever reason, the lock was damaged.”
As said by gates himself in an interview that is on his website.
Exactly.
What was up with that white liberal woman across the street.
Marvin at 56 continues his quest to remain the “The Dumbest Motherfucker In The Universe”.
Marvin, “it’s possible the door had been jimmied….” it does not say there was evidence of jimmying, monkeying or fucking going on with the door. The lock/door stuck.
PS, mental one, there is no mention of this in the police report AND this statement was made AFTER the fact.
Please continue. You have a virtual choke hold on “The Dumbest Motherfucker In The Universe” title.
Congratulations!!!
It is interesting how leftwingers talking about Gates circa 2009 sound much like rightwingers talking about Weaver circa 1994. Perhaps there is some common ground.