Well, the state GOP elected Diane Tebelius as their new state chair, but nobody got a majority in the Democrats’ first round of balloting. The results:
Dwight Pelz: 82
Laura Ruderman: 69
Jean Brooks: 13
There was apparently a touch of drama over a disputed proxy ballot for Ruderman. Had it been disqualified, Pelz would have been declared the winner on the first ballot, but the executive board ruled overwhelming ruled to count it. So now we eliminate Brooks from the mix and move on to round two.
FYI, all my information comes from Andrew Villeneuve of NW Progressive Institute, reporting live from the meeting while I sit comfortably at home drinking tea. I’m sure he’ll have a full wrap-up after the meeting, um, wraps up.
UPDATE: (5:52 pm)
Andrew just called… Dwight Pelz is the new Democratic state chair. Final tally: Pelz 95, Ruderman 70.
Now that we have a new chair, let’s go out there and kick some ass.
Roger they are coming after you squirrel gun now.
State Senator Mary Margaret Haugen (D-10) has introduced two Draconian anti-hunting measures in Olympia. SB 6598 would shut down hunting in Island County, and SB 6616 would ban hunting within one mile of a school. Senator Haugen does not like hunting and does not like hunters. Please call Senator Haugen at (360) 786-7618 and ask her to withdraw these punitive anti-hunting measures. In addition, Senate Bill 5343, a bill that prohibits non-licensed individuals from buying, selling or trading firearms from their private collections at gun shows without conducting the exchange through a licensed firearm dealer, was heard in the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday. Although more than 100 NRA members and firearm owners turned out to voice their opposition to this bill, a handful of uniformed police chiefs have some committee members searching for a compromise. The proponents of SB 5343, including Washington Ceasefire and The Brady Campaign, made it very clear that restricting private transactions at gun shows is the first step in their plan to restrict ALL private transactions of firearms in the State of Washington. The President of Washington Ceasefire also used this hearing to make a very emotional appeal for a ban on semiautomatic firearms and .50 caliber rifles. These people are extremists and their agenda is clear. Law-abiding firearm owners must stop this bill or it will be the proverbial “first step.” Aside from the horrible precedent Senate Bill 5343 would set, the bill would expand the registration database in Washington. Under existing law, all dealer handgun sales are recorded with the Department of Licensing (DOL) which maintains a database of Washington handgun owners. Any additional private sales that would be brokered through dealers under the provisions of this bill would also be registered with DOL. Further, SB 5343 establishes state fees (in effect, a GUN TAX) for the background checks and, of course, dealers would charge an additional fee for the time and effort it takes them to facilitate transactions. The worst part is that all this bureaucracy would be created with virtually NO benefit, since the vast majority of criminals get their guns from sources other than gun shows. Law enforcement resources would be diverted from going after real criminals and the black market to doing background checks on law-abiding firearm owners. It is critical that every concerned firearm owner contact their Senator and the members of the Judiciary Committee. Urge them to OPPOSE Senate Bill 5343 and ANY restriction on private firearm transactions!! Messages for legislators can be left on the toll-free Legislative Hotline at (800) 562-6000. It is especially important for firearm owners in Senate Districts 2 (Senator Marilyn Rasmussen) and 48 (Senator Luke Esser) to contact your Senators! Senator Rasmussen (D-2) represents a rural, pro-gun district. However, she is considering the “compromise” mentioned earlier in this alert. If you live in the 2nd Senate District, please be sure to contact Senator Rasmussen at (360) 786-7602 and tell her there is no workable compromise. The ONLY alternative is to defeat any restrictions on private firearm transactions! Senator Esser (R-48), on the other hand, represents a very moderate, swing, suburban district. He shares our philosophy that these kinds of restrictions will only impact law-abiding citizens. But he needs to hear from firearm owners in the 48th Senate District. Thank him for always standing up for the rights of law-abiding citizens and urge him to hold the line against this horrible bill! You can reach Senator Esser at (360) 786-7694.
Okay.. Lets hope he is effective….
Gerald, Liberal Washington
Gee, that’s too bad — for the Democrats at least. The Democrats could have moved further towards the center with Laura Ruderman as their Chair. With Dwight (I love Fidel) Pelz at the helm, the Democrats will be taking a 90 degree turn to the left, and losing many centrist voters and donors.
One thing that I can guarantee you — Dwight Pelz will have a FINE start as head of the state Democrats. Exactly how FINE should be determined by the Public Disclosure Commission within the next 45 to 60 days.
http://soundpolitics.com/PopeP.....060127.pdf
Filibuster Alito!!
check out http://www.theyoungturks.com/-there is an ongoing internet filibuster going on; Thom Hartmann has been on; Brad Friedman of Bradblog.com is on now. Cenk and Jill will be back after 8 tonight PST.
Call/fax/e-mail Cantwell and Murray-they seem to be wobbly on this. It’s time for democrats to take a stand.
Here are the fax numbers of some of the key senators in the filibuster:
AR: Lincoln(D) (202) 228-1371
AR: Pryor(D) (202) 228-0908
CA: Boxer(D) (202) 226-6701
CA: Feinstein(D) (202) 228-3954
CO: Salazar(D) (202) 228-5036
CT: Dodd(D) (202) 224-1083
CT: Lieberman(D) (202) 224-9750
DE: Biden(D) (202) 224-0139
DE: Carper(D) (202) 228-2190
FL: Nelson(D) (202) 228-2183
HI: Akaka(D) (202) 224-2126
HI: Inouye(D) (202) 224-6747
IA: Harkin(D) (202) 224-9369
(319) 365-4683
(515) 284-4937
(563) 582-2342
(712) 252-1638
IL: Durbin(D) (202) 228-0400
IL: Obama(D) (202) 228-4260
IN: Bayh(D) 202-228-1377
LA: Landrieu(D) (202) 224-9735
MA: Kennedy(D) (202) 224-2417
MA: Kerry(D) (202) 224-8525
MD: Mikulski(D) (202) 224-8858
MD: Sarbanes(D) (202) 224-1651
MI: Levin(D) (202) 224-1388
MI: Stabenow(D) (202) 228-0325
MN: Dayton(D) (202) 228-2186
Local (612) 727-5223
MT: Baucus(D) (202) 224-0515
ND: Conrad(D) (202) 224-7776
ND: Dorgan(D) (202) 224-1193
NE: Nelson(D) (202) 228-0012
NJ: Corzine(D) (202) 228-2197
NJ: Lautenberg(D) (202) 224-9707
and (202) 228-4054
NM: Bingaman(D) (202) 224-2852
NV: Reid(D) (202) 224-7327
NY: Clinton(D) (202) 228-0282
NY: Schumer(D) (202) 228-3027
OR: Wyden(D) (202) 228-2717
RI: Reed(D) (202) 224-4680
SD: Johnson(D) (202) 228-0368
VT: Leahy(D) (202) 224-3595
VT: Jeffords(I) No FAX listed
WA: Cantwell(D) (202) 228-0514
WA: Murray(D) (202) 224-0238
WI: Feingold(D) (202) 224-2725
WI: Kohl(D) (202) 224-9787
WV: Rockefeller(D) (202) 224-7665
WV: Byrd(D) (202) 228-0002
Vulnerable Republicans:
Lincoln Chafee Fax: (202) 228-2853 / (401) 453-5085
Susan Collins: Fax: (202) 224-2693 / (207) 990-4604
Olympia Snowe: Fax: (202) 224-1946 / (207) 874-7631
Ted Stevens: Fax: (202) 224-2354
Fax ’em all!!
Aww come on, Richard— you know you would have posted the same thing regardless of who was elected— tired, tired Nixon-era anti-dem talking points. Does that really work with anyone other than the folks in your echo chamber?
You would think that a troll with your credentials and experience would have come up with something fresh, interesting, or engaging by now.
I worked for Jean Brooks on her run, and if she had won you would have said the exact same thing. Shoot, if we had elected Grover Norquist’s more conservative brother, you probably would have said the same thing.
Richard, Richard, Richard…
The purpose of the PDC is to get individuals and organizations to comply, not to be attack dogs. If they were, then the 41st District Republicans would be in a world of hurt, considering the allegations that they have been out of financial compliance with the PDC for between one and two years (and are allegedly working with the PDC to get their house in order).
If Dwight’s campaign is not in compliance, then the PDC will work with Dwight’s campaign to resolve the issue. As long as Dwight’s campaign shows “best intent”, there will be a quiet resolution to this.
But to think that this situation will result in some sort of major league scandal is laughable.
The only thing I cannot figure out is if RP posts first at uSP or here. Either way, 90% of the time it is worn out diatribe.
…the Democrats will be taking a 90 degree turn to the left, and losing many centrist voters and donors.
But, but, but…Richard. Really, now! You have accused the WA Dems of taking many “90 degree turns to the left”. Where does this merry-go-round-in-your-mind stop? The WA St. GOP has basically alienated the political center in this state to the point beyond repair. And why should we give a flying fuck what you think? Give your sage advise to Ms. Tebelius.
As for your PDC complaint, I can’t wait for the response from the PDC telling you you are full of hot air. I bet you won’t have the intellectual courage to post it, either. Rest assured, however, it will be in the public record.
Please note that Goldy.
Palamedes @ 7,
I don’t see anything alarming about the 41st district GOP organization. In any event, GOP district organizations are not very major financial entities. The state GOP is highly centralized, and only the state party and county party organizations have any real authority and power. District organizations only exist in the larger counties, and are strictly subservient to the county organizations.
The PDC imposes larger fines on larger organizations and campaigns, and doesn’t bother very much with candidates and groups that don’t raise or spend very much money. They will view reporting problems by a public official with a six figure salary and six figures of campaign finances much more seriously than some volunteer organization that doesn’t balance the books on a few thousand dollar budget.
The state Democrats have been fined over $337,500 by the PDC for their various reporting problems, since the Democrat party is a large organization, with a professional full-time staff, and has a budget of a few million dollars.
Former King County Councilman Brian Derdowski was fined $3,500 by the PDC for reporting problems in his 1999 re-election campaign, which are of similar magniture than Dwight Pelz’s problems.
More recently, Port of Seattle Commissioner Patricia Davis was fined $2,000 in her 2005 campaign for reporting problems less serious than Dwight Pelz’s problems, and was fined $7,500 (and required to reimburse a little over $6,000) for reporting problems more serious than Dwight Pelz’s problems. To add perspective, Davis receives a $6,000 annual salary for her part-time position, and had much smaller overall campaign budgets in each of these elections than the total funds raised by Pelz (including both King County Council and Seattle City Council) for his 2005 campaigns.
It was actually the whole Central Committee who voted to count the disputed ballot in the first round, not the Exec Board.
And it is predictably tiresome that the Rethugs are allowed to move to the Right with their new chair, but we are not allowed to go the other way with ours, if you even believe Pelz is left of Berendt.
Pelz; wasn’t he the doofus who helped fix the KC returns in the governers race..
At it again, finding missing ballots behind the bookcase…?
And don’t make any final announcements till the dwarf votes come in
Dick Dick Dick your a dick. I know who don’t you take your main stream views and run for Gov again.
Democrats are stupid if they support restrictive gun laws. That pisses off blue collars who should be voting Democratic, but this one issue is enough to turn some of them into goopers. Anyway it doesn’t solve the crime problem, the solution to that is getting serious about tough sentencing for gun crimes.
Richard @3
Not to worry, Richard, given a choice between a party led by Pelz or a party led by Tebelius, I don’t think very many voters are suddenly going to change from blue to red.
9
“The WA St. GOP has basically alienated the political center in this state to the point beyond repair.”
Not only that, but they’ve also been out of power in Washington for so long they no longer have anyone who knows anything about running a government. A Republican administration in Olympia would be a fucking disaster! Come to think of it, the last GOP administration in Olympia was a fucking disaster.
10
Richard, aren’t Seattle port commissioners full-time, and doesn’t that job pay close to six figures?
Kevin Carns @12
“Pelz; wasn’t he the doofus who helped fix the KC returns in the governers race..”
Get a fucking life, you fucking useless troll.
sure thing Dean…
Roger you restore my trust in you. That is one statement you made all year that makes sense.
Democrats are stupid if they support restrictive gun laws. That pisses off blue collars who should be voting Democratic, but this one issue is enough to turn some of them into goopers. Anyway it doesn’t solve the crime problem, the solution to that is getting serious about tough sentencing for gun crimes.
Comment by Roger Rabbit— 1/28/06 @ 9:33 pm
@13: And don’t make any final announcements till the dwarf votes come in
Comment by righton— 1/28/06 @ 7:28 pm
If such a senselessly stupid and cruel statement as this were made by a lefty, why Goldie’s little friendly blog here would be innundated by a howling mob demanding Democrats to publically beg for forgiveness, and cast the offender into the outer darkness.
The witlessness and ignorance exhibited in the remark is exceeded only by the writer’s obvious smug (and not widely held, one hopes)opinion that it was somehow “funny”.
Pelz; wasn’t he the doofus who helped fix the KC returns in the governers race..
At it again, finding missing ballots behind the bookcase…?
Comment by righton— 1/28/06 @ 7:27 pm
I think so righton. Now if he can blubber and cry real good he would fit right in. sniff sniff “Let every donk vote count” tear blubber.
GOLDY Got it wrong what he means is lets go out and lick some ass you guys should be great at that.
Rabbit @ 18
That is the HIRED STAFF you are thinking about. Mic Dinsmore, the Chief Executive Office, made a salary of $262,919 in 2004. The commissioners (in 2004 Pat Davis, Paige Miller, Alec Fisken, Lawrence Molloy, Bob Edwards) only made $6,000. Check it out, as well as all the other six figured salary employees at:
http://lbloom.net/xptsea04.html
why dont you give it up alito is in if you lucky Kenney will give Kerry a ride home your the party of lOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOsers.
Double Chocolate Raspberry Crème
3/4 cup marshmallow crème
1/4 cup raspberry preserves
2 tablespoons fat-free chocolate syrup
6 Quaker Chocolate Crunch Rice Cakes
Microwave the raspberry preserves briefly until just melted.
Mix the raspberry preserves and the marshmallow crème.
Divide the mixture onto the 6 Quaker Chocolate Crunch Rice Cakes.
Drizzle each with 1 teaspoon of chocolate syrup.
Servings: 6
Nutrition Information: 1/6 of recipe
Calories 130, Total Fat 1g
sounds like a good recipe, Mr. B. Could you bring some Tuesday night?
One of the more interesting moments of the State Party meeting was when Chris Vance showed up at Paul Berendt’s retirement dinner on Friday night and spent 10 minutes praising Paul and their working relationship.
It amazes me that the same people who are okay with the government ignoring other parts of the Constitution that prove inconvenient, are outraged about proposals to stop anonymous, on the spot sales of firearms. The Second Amendment does say “well regulated”.
The usual argument against any firearm regulation is ad hominem, attacking the proponent by claiming their true aim is to ban all guns. Of course the motives of the supporters of regulation is really irrelevant. The only thing that matters is whether the regulation is a good idea or not. And the idea that guns are going to be banned in America is absurd anyway.
I think original intent does apply here. Muskets and flintlocks cannot be regulated. You can have those old cannon too, although they are tough to fit in the closet, and they aren’t much good against burglars. Buyers of more powerful modern weapons ought to be identified before purchase however.
During the thirty plus year long swing to the right the Democratic Party and I have been highjacked on, there have always been “helpful” righties telling us not to stop, that a turn left would alienate the holy “middle”.
If it were really true that we’d hurt ourselves if we swung left, why would they care? Answer, because the middle shifts away from a silenced point of view.
@ 31
Just don’t listen. They’ll gurgle and spout no matter what, it is in their nature. They can layer on the conspiracy theories good and deep, it doesn’t mean much in the end.
@ 1
klake is pro-terrorist, pro-.50 cal in the hands of Al-Qaeda, pro-arming of private armies in the Balkans.
Wayne @ 30:
Saying “the Second Amendment does say ‘well-regulated’ ” as a rationale for more restrictions on gun ownership only demonstrates your ignorance of history.
It has been well documented that in an 18th-century context, well-regulated” means “functioning smoothly,” and not administratively restrictive.
The “individual right” interpretation is alive and well, and hardly a matter of settled law. Gun-grabbers are in no legal or political position to “count their chickens.”
As a militant Dem, I have long advocated abandoning restrictions on firearms in this country since the next civil war will only find the intelligent and educated Dems in the same position they were in under Pol Pot. Dead or in re-education camps.
We need to arm on the left. And a .50 cal looks like a good choice from the hilltop I am on.
If you outlaw guns only the Republican Wingnuts will have guns.
:)
re 1: You’re not going to be able to shoot animals near schools???!!!??? What’s this world coming to!?!? I guess this will put the skids on my religeous school’s indoor “BUFFALO HUNT”. It was the best fundraiser we had and brought in the manliest roughnecks you ever saw!
This is good news. The Dems need to move left. We need to start being Dems again. And since the rethugs just went to the right with their party chair, it will give people a more clear choice. Become a member of a state that is led by the theocratic, taliban wannabe right wingers, or live in a state where people try to use government to help other people, not to force them into religious slavery.
And what’s more interesting is the story in the Times today that shows how there was a big inner struggle with the thugs in the rethuglican party. It seems that many in the GOP were not happy with the new bitch in town. Should make for some easy pickins’
So why don’t all you righties just move to Alabama or Mississippi or some other third world country right now since all you get in Washington is your ASS kicked! HE HE!
re 3: Popestar: The “center” in America IS the right. How many “centrist” Democrats have provided funding for rightist death squads in South America?
The answer is: Many have! We will have a new “center” after the country moves hard left. Until then it’s just another rightist mockup of democracy.
If I had kids in school, I’d sure as hell not want a bunch of drunken yahoos with rifles firing them nearby.
Also, forcing non-licensed dealers to sell only through licenesed dealers will not only close the “gun show loophole” by making sure that ALL gun show sales result in background checks, it will also stimulate new business as licensed dealers will likely take a cut of the transactions. It will be an incentive fr non-licensed dealrers to get licensed.
Just as we do not allow unregulated sales of prescription drugs, we should not allow unregulated sales of firearms.
Whether or not one views the Second Amendment as conferring an individual versus collective right, regulation of gun sales and of the time and place of authorized use is settled law.
Guns don’t kill people; Republicans Do.
It has been well documented that in an 18th-century context, well-regulated” means “functioning smoothly,” and not administratively restrictive.
Simply not true, Ivan. Even if one were to accept such an absurb interpretation, please explain the presence of the word “militia”. Please also delve into the history of the period, and give me your thoughts on what general Washington thought about state militias, smoothly running or not.
Me? I just want my own ICBM with about 50 megatons of hydrogen heat. Ya think I could pick one up at the next gun show in Roy?
Proud @ 42:
Just saying something is “absurb” doesn’t even make it absurd. Why not Google the Yale Law Journal by Prof. Sanford Levinson (Levinson, The Embarrassing Second Amendment, 99 YALE L.J., 637, 654-55 (1989) and learn something?
As a point of process, at TPMCafe.com, Klake could have created his own blog entry about fire arms regulation and everyone who wanted to join him could have had their very own discussion . . . unconfused by all that distracting talk about the new Dem Party chair.
Proud, I hate to say this, but you’re knee-jerking the issue. Current interpretations of law in most jurisdictions support the individual rights vs. you-have-the-right-to-join-the-National-Guard view. Yes, there’s a vocal anti-gun constituency on the left, but I think they’re as ideological as any wingnut. Felons are already denied gun rights, but guess what, they own guns anyway. Occasionally some stupid parent leaves a gun where their stupid kid can get it, but stupid people do stupid things with cars, liquor, and other dangerous instrumentalities, too. As far as disarming the populace, whether or not it’s a good idea in principle, the horse is out of the barn; there are more guns than people in this country, so how could anyone possibly ever gather them all? The assault weapon ban was a joke; it only banned imported semi-auto rifles that “looked mean” because they had flash suppressors and bayonet lugs. Who the hell cares if they get shot at 400 yards with a gun that has a bayonet lug anyway?
Maybe we should pass a law against stupidity. That would outlaw most Republicans.
Hmmm, I was just thinking … what state(s) is Ann Coulter licensed to practice law in? Bill Clinton was disbarred for a lot less than publicly advocating the murder of a judge. I’m sure if I did that, I wouldn’t have my ticket very long. Somebody ought to file a complaint against her and get the bar to lift her license. As an officer of the court, she can’t go around saying somebody should kill the court. We need to launch a national disbar-Coulter movement. This incendiary has no business being a lawyer.
@ 1
Klake is pro-terrorist, pro-.50 cal in the hands of Al-Qaeda, pro-arming of private armies in the Balkans.
Comment by Belltowner— 1/29/06 @ 3:54 am
Belltoner I did see you on the drill field in your desert BDU’s uniform on, and your bags pack for South West Asia. That is one of the requirements for fighting terrorist. Next have you ever shoot a .50 caliber Rifle or even a fully automatic weapon. What did Bill Clinton have us do for the Albanian’s in Yugoslavia but arm the private armies in the Balkans? Then we escorted the Serbs back into Serbia leaving all their possessions in Kosovo for the Albanian’s. Sounds like a fair deal to you,it sure did the French, because they did not want any Albanian’s in their country. It would be like disarming the California’s and turning over the state to Mexico and escorting those who complain to Oregon. Now turn in all your weapons to the state and you figure out how to defend your family and your rights. Study the Balkan war it could happen here in California when the illegal emigrants refuse to learn English and the local citizens refuse to educate the masses.
“Hmmm, I was just thinking … what state(s) is Ann Coulter licensed to practice law IN?” [RR, What college teaches lawyers to end sentences with prepositions? If you were/are a lawyer, you never chould make it in the private sector.]
47, Ann’s worth millions, is a babe, is famous, and has 3 NY Times best sellers. You end sentences with prepositions and whine and bitch. One winner, and one looooooooooser!
49
Do we need to review the other idiocies that 19th-century grammarians created, like “split infinitives”?
As Churchill supposedly once said, “This is the type of arrant pedantry up with which I will not put.”
”Ann […] is a babe”
You should get your eyes checked.
Ken In Seattle @ 35
Pol Pot was an extreme LEFTIST — i.e. a Communist. A bit further to the left than Fidel Castro (the hero of incoming state Democrat chair Dwight Pelz). To the extent that Pol Pot had other leftists in Cambodia killed, this was because these folks were not as extreme to the left as he was. Pol Pot certainly had every single rightist he could get his hands on killed as well. Bad analogy. It would be like complaining that Adolf Hitler some moderate rightists killed (i.e. the ones who actively complained about the Nazis being too extreme), while overlooking the fact that he had everyone on the left liquidated (not to mention Jews and various other ethnic groups to boot).
Just as we do not allow unregulated sales of prescription drugs, we should not allow unregulated sales of firearms.
Comment by Daddy Love— 1/29/06 @ 7:13 am
Daddy Love the biggest abuse of drugs today is with prescription drugs not the illegal drugs that some of your friends use. Let me remind you the Governor disarmed the National Guard dunning WTO for fear we would toasted some of his best friends. Do Not I repeat Do Not trust any government who wants to disarm the citizens of that state. If you base your judgments out of fear your will lose all your rights and freedoms to suite the few.
“If you base your judgments out of fear your will lose all your rights and freedoms to suite [sic] the few.”
What the hell are you supporting Bush for, then?
Oh, sorry, that should be “For what the hell are you supporting Bush, then?”
Or rather “Then for what the hell are you supporting Bush?”
“Resistance is a legitimate right that we will practice and protect.”
– KHALED MESHAL, the exiled political head of the radical Islamic group
Hamas.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01.....038;emc=th
Dr E. you should get your head into what going on in the Middle East, please try and get you info from better sources.
58
What are you talking about? I already have a pretty good idea of what’s going on in the Middle East.
44.
Well, Jerry, I guess there isn’t anything left to say about the state chair.
On the gun rant, there are too many damn guns out there to do anything about, anyway. Get a vest and a Tec-9, liberals of America!
Be prepared.
Of course Pol Pot was a Communist. The parallel I was drawing was to his Anti-intellectual persecution which is what he has in common with the theofascist which have taken over the Republican Party. The anti science war of convenience supported by the corporations and religious fundies (for very different reasons) will have the same outcome.
Authoritarianism grows from the left or the right for the same reasons. The belief in the “my way or the highway” “black or white” “good or evil” theory can trump the scientific method, free discussion, and the constitution.
I suspect there are politicians on both side that see where this country is headed and just want to be the “Top Dog” when it gets to the President as King/Dictator scenario. If the general public insist on trading liberty for security and is happy selling the Republic to China in pieces, then the only choice we have is which dictator is gonna screw the people we identify with the most.
We could both end up in the camps.
Enjoy your tax cuts while you can :)
You gun loonies better start settlin’ down, or I’ll start droppin’ recipes again.
@ 48 Don’t get pissy. I’m just using the right’s tactics against you. (you know, when you raise a legitimate point, I respond by questioning your patriotism. don’t dish it out if you can’t handle it)
VA, the tec-9 is illegal now.
I prefer the AB-10.
This machine kills facists – Woody Guthrie
49
“RR, What college teaches lawyers to end sentences with prepositions? If you were/are a lawyer, you never chould make it in the private sector.”
Are you serious? Have you EVER read a legal brief? Most lawyers are crappy writers. Their math is no good, either. If you want literacy, try the Humanities Department. They might have an English prof who knows the difference between a dangling preposition and a particle board.
Kevin Carns @198
“I want the donks to filibuster. I don’t think they have enough to stop it at 60. We can shut down a filibuster without the nuclear option. Comment by RUFUS— 1/27/06 @ 9:38 pm”
You are an idiot! To stop a filibuster, the Republicans need 60 votes, not the Democrats! Since the Republicans don’t have 60 senators, where are you gonna get your 60 votes, Doofus?
Comment by Roger Rabbit— 1/28/06 @ 10:52 am
Did you read this article you dumb ass bunny.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....HORO0.html
I know I will be celebrating on Tuesday. Are you wabbit?
50
“Ann’s worth millions”
So is John Gotti Jr.
“… is a babe”
Are you kidding? She’s on the wrong side of 40, is shaped like a light bulb, has fence post legs, and her Adam’s apple looks like it grew on a tree in Wenatchee.
“is famous”
So are Attila, Caligula, Hitler, and Ted Bundy.
“… and has 3 NY Times best sellers”
Mein Kampf and Mao’s Little Red Book did well, too.
“You end sentences with prepositions”
So what? Why should Republicans have a monopoly on ending sentences with prepositions? Fuck you! I have as much right to end sentences with prepositions as anyone else I can think of.
” … and whine and bitch”
Somebody’s whining and bitching alright but it ain’t me.
“One winner, and one looooooooooser!”
I win, you lose.
53
Uh, Roger, anyone who goes around starting wars, torturing people, and killing people is an extremist — which puts Dubya in that category.
erratum
should read “Uh, Richard, anyone …” Sheesh.
Kevin Carns @58
Oh, so now we invaded Iraq to save Israel from Hamas?
59
I think Kevin is trying to say we invaded Iraq to save Israel from terrorists.
60
“On the gun rant, there are too many damn guns out there to do anything about, anyway. Get a vest and a Tec-9, liberals of America!”
I kinda like the Street Sweeper because it looks cool.
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976615596.htm
JCH, Roger didn’t realize that he was addressing you in his comment about Annthrax and her murderous intentions toward Justice Stevens. If he had, he would have made his query more grammatically correct, as in:
Hmmm, I was just thinking … what state(s) is Ann Coulter licensed to practice law in, asshole?
RUFUS @ 65
Obama and Biden both say they’ll vote against cloture, so what’s your point? You might want to try using words to make it, even though that has not worked out too well for you in the past.
Klake
“the biggest abuse of drugs today is with prescription drugs ”
Right. Which is why we would not want to DE-regulate their sales. You make my argument for me.
Again, think what you want about rights, but regulation of gun sales and of the time and place of authorized use is settled law.
Are you serious? Have you EVER read a legal brief? Most lawyers are crappy writers. Their math is no good, either. If you want literacy, try the Humanities Department. They might have an English prof who knows the difference between a dangling preposition and a particle board.
Comment by Roger Rabbit— 1/29/06 @ 2:05 pm
Roger if you don’t mind I will post that statement on my Board.
Ivan @43: My apologies for the typo. However, your blith assurances are indeed “absurd”. The case law is not definitive–well, actually, what there is goes against your case. Levinson’s fine article notwithstanding, the legal scholarship on this issue is far from settled. So when you make sweeping claims and cast aspersions regarding the extent of others’ knowledge on this issue..I feel compelled, yea in my very ignorance, to raise a legitimate objection to your sweeping claims. One may also reasonably point out that your reliance on what you believe the 18th century folks “meant” when they said “well-regulated” betrays a strong whiff of “original intent” Constitutional interpretation, which, if memory serves, is also highly controversial.
Regards,
Roger Rabbit @45: I am truly loathe to disagree with a fellow loony lefty, and frankly the 2nd Amendment controversy is not really too high on my list of political and social concerns. However, I am not a real fan of those who make obscurantists claims regarding Constitutional scholarhip. The gun control issue remains highly controversial, emotion laden, and far from settled.
Insofar as some assert that dropping this issue will “help” the Democrats, or the “left” in general, I remain highly sceptical. How many votes would we pick up if we adopted a plank demanding school prayer? Teaching creationism in public schools? Rolling back civil rights legislation? Dismantling the EPA? Advocating “flat taxes”? Bankruptcy “reform”, No Child Left Behind or even, lord help us, admit that Tim Eyeman has an ocassional good initiative? I’d wager not many. Democrats have already imbibed way too much “free markets” heady elixer, and have stood by and watched with little or no comment the destruction of labor unions, the concept of industrial democracy, and the middle class–what little more good remains to “give in” on this issue? I am politically cynical enough to turn a blind eye here, as long as we get back in the game elsewhere.
As for policy failures–I know little on this issue. I do find that the arguments quickly devolve into estoteric and frankly rather geeky discussions regarding the hardware. I would tend to think that the assault rifle ban “didn’t work” is not a general case against gun control, but an example of a poorly crafted piece of legislation. This can be changed.
I remain repectfully,
Here is some information about the “first rate education and health care system” that Dwight Pelz wrote about so glowingly in his op-ed piece in the April 11, 2002 edition of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer:
“On May 27, [1966,] 166 Cubans — civilians and members of the military — were executed and submitted to medical procedures of blood extraction of an average of seven pints per person. This blood is sold to Communist Vietnam at a rate of $50 per pint with the dual purpose of obtaining hard currency and contributing to the Vietcong Communist aggression.
“A pint of blood is equivalent to half a liter. Extracting this amount of blood from a person sentenced to death produces cerebral anemia and a state of unconsciousness and paralysis. Once the blood is extracted, the person is taken by two militiamen on a stretcher to the location where the execution takes place.”
— InterAmerican Human Rights Commission, April 7, 1967
http://www.futurodecuba.org/counting_castro.htm
This does give me some good ideas for an initiative — similar to Initiative 831, the “Horse’s Ass” initiative where Goldy was criticizing Tim Eyman.
The initiative could encourage Dwight Pelz to submit to the withdrawal of seven pints of his blood at a single sitting, followed by giving a public speech extolling the virtues of the Castro regime. Pelz (or his estate) could also be encouraged to sell this blood to the highest bidder, and use the proceeds towards paying the PDC fines that the state Democrat party still owes. Any persons assisting in this blood withdrawal would be immunized from any civil or criminal liability.
Even Joel Connelly thinks that Dwight Pelz has gone too far with his “I love Fidel” agenda:
“As a county councilman, Dwight Pelz has championed a resolution to establish a sister relationship between King County and the Cuban province of Granma. Granma is named for the yacht on which Fidel Castro returned to Cuba in 1954.
Pelz was part of a Seattle delegation that visited Cuba in 2002 and returned with positive reports.
Sisterhood is powerful, but Pelz should respond to a trio of questions:
Will you pursue the Cuba sisterhood relationship if elected to the Seattle City Council? Will you try to take the City Council back into foreign policy, a field in which it has a well-documented record of foolishness?
The 2002 visit coincided with a crackdown by Castro on dissident writers and journalists. Did Seattle visitors protest human rights violations by Cuba’s totalitarian government?”
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....oel30.html
37% of adult Americans think that Jack Bauer is a real person. That’s approximately the same % of people who approve of Bush’s presidency.
Here is the link to the NEW website of the Washington State Democrats:
http://www.seattlecuba.org/index.htm
Pelz baby;
What is your position on human rights in Cuba? No elections, no free press, no fully independent church(es).
And of course, isn’t 1/4 of the population fleeing an indicator of repression?
Richard, only one term seems to apply in reply to your posts.
Smeg off. Your attempt to be anti-Pelz at the vote by putting your letter against the PDC filings of Dwight Pelz on every chair was probably one of the reasons it went so far in Dwight’s direction. So if you wanted Laura, you really picked a stupid way of helping her. She was practically in tears about this type of negative attack, and everyone in the room knew that it was a Conservative tactic, and obviously an outside job.
So, you can post what you like whereever you like, but don’t get the idea that any of us give a dig-dang what the heck you say. The Conservative Movement is going down, and they’re going to take the Republican Party out with it. And you know it, which is why you fight so hard. It took your people 30 years to get up to 51%. The slightest twitch of a brain cell on our side tips the electoral scales, and you know it. Your majority on the national level is going to be short lived, and you know it. And you know there is nothing, NOTHING, that you can do to stop us.
But keep trying. It’s good for a laugh every once in a while.