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Santorum Stupak

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Already up at the Urban Dictionary:

Stupak–A medical condition (subset of sepsis) resulting from unsafe – unnecessarily so – back alley abortions as a result of the “Stupak Amendment” to the 2009 Health Care Reform Bill.
Doctor: Unfortunately, while this would have been covered under private insurance carriers, public plans were barred from including women’s health measures. I’m sorry, you’ll have to see “Dr. Julio” in the alley behind 7-11.

(Three weeks later.)

Doctor: I believe you’ve developed Stupak, a form of sepsis, a severe illness in which the bloodstream is overwhelmed by bacteria.

I guess you can go to Urban Dictionary and vote if you wish. While there are others worthy of scorn in this sorry episode, Bart Stupak deserves to go down in history as the misogynistic disease that he is. If his barbaric poison pill is in the conference report, there will be political hell to pay.

(Props to Firedoglake and Eschaton.)

AND–From an article at The Hill, here’s a paragraph that neatly summarizes why the Stupak amendment is so asinine:

Stupak’s language not only prohibits abortion coverage in the public insurance option included in the House bill. It would also prevent private plans from offering coverage for abortion services if they accept people who are receiving government subsidies.

So, as far as anyone can tell, that would be virtually all plans.

Comments

  1. 1

    I’d favor mandatory abortions for folks who can’t afford to pay to raise a kid. Having a kid before you can afford to do so is just plain stupid in this day and age.

    It’s easier to pay for a simple abortion (and birth control, for that matter) than it is to pay for a life of public support.

  2. 2

    Anybody know how much an abortion costs, as it seems they would now have to pay for it out of their own pocket.

  3. 3

    I would hope the House bill does permit coverage for forced sterilization of wingnuts. Aside from wingnuts, I can’t imagine that anyone would oppose such a provision.

  4. 4

    incorrect @ 1

    Putting your misanthropic screed aside, you inadvertently hint at the single greatest cause of abortions:

    economic uncertainty

    The Bush administration stopped published abortion statistics. Because his economic policies increased the number of abortions.

    Anyone wanting to actually reduce the number of abortions (unwanted pregnancies) will support progressive economic policies.

  5. 5

    The culture wars are alive and kicking.

    I was surprised how many people asked me if I was pro-life.

    I replied that I supported policies which would reduce the number of abortions.

    Consider: The Netherlands has the most permissive abortion laws and yet has the lowest abortion rate.

    Coincidence? No. Dutch parents have economic security. They don’t have to worry if they can support their kids.

    Anyone against abortions should be for universal healthcare. Anything less is hypocrisy.

    (I acknowledge that we progressives have done a poor job of making our case. We rely too much on facts and figures, not enough on values and morals.)

  6. 6

    Well, without the language the bill would not have passed, as the Hill piece makes clear:

    Sixty-four Democrats voted for Stupak’s amendment, without which the House healthcare bill would not have won final passage in a 220-215 vote.

    And while you’re calling the amendment asinine, let’s just remember that Pelosi heralded the bill’s passage as a great victory.

  7. 7

    What most deserves scorn is the screwy senatorial system that allows 40.1% of senators representing 25% of the population to thwart the will of three-fourths of the people.

    Small, rural, conservative states are already grossly overrepresented in the Senate due to the fact each state gets 2 senators regardless of population. That was put in the Constitution to preserve slavery, and it’s doing a damn good job of that!!! Maybe it’s time to change the Constitution so the U.S. Senate reflects the “one person, one vote” rule of true democracy, but that’s another issue for another time.

    As this is the system we have to live with, let’s make sure Democratic senators understand we want them to use it when Republicans are in power to keep Republicans from passing legislation we don’t like, instead of pathetically rolling over for the White House like they did in 2001-2008 and especially in 2003 when an unelected president who represented less than a majority of the voters wanted a war resolution.

  8. 8

    So, when does coverage for Viagra and it’s iterations get dropped from prescription plans? Maybe they can ban all those internet ads for viagra while they’re at it!

  9. 9

    So, when does coverage for Viagra and it’s iterations get dropped from prescription plans?

    There’s a great joke there but Puddy will let it pass.

  10. 10

    Sheeee-it…this one’s EASY:

    http://crooksandliars.com/john.....-amendment

    I want to propose a new amendment be added during the conference committee when the House and Senate get together to merge the health-care reform bills. I know the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops will love it, since they are officially members of Congress now. Here it is.

    All pro-life male members of Congress who ejaculate without the express intent of making a baby will be considered to have had an abortion. (This will include airport-bathroom encounters.) Under this new rule, the male members then must fall in line with the same restrictions to health care as women will have to under the Stupak Amendment. Then starting in 2013, all men in America will be covered under this provision as well.

    That includes all those “goat-fuckers” out there as well.

  11. 11

    9. Puddybud Remembers Progressives Forget spews:

    So, when does coverage for Viagra and it’s iterations get dropped from prescription plans?

    There’s a great joke there but Puddy will let it pass.

    11/09/2009 at 12:01 pm

    There’s nothing funny there fuckface…it’s pure misogynistic right-wing hypocrisy. The kind you deal in all the time.

  12. 12

    Once again rujax appears…

    1) Adds nothing to the discourse
    2) Demonstrates hatred – nothing new
    3) Is Stuck on Stupid – Well known malady
    4) Standard insipid attacks
    5) Generally makes cinder blocks look smart

    Move on folks nothing new there. Too bad the cap broke!

  13. 13

    12. Puddybud Remembers Progressives Forget spews:

    Once again rujax appears…

    1) Adds nothing to the discourse
    2) Demonstrates hatred – nothing new
    3) Is Stuck on Stupid – Well known malady
    4) Standard insipid attacks
    5) Generally makes cinder blocks look smart

    Move on folks nothing new there. Too bad the cap broke!

    11/09/2009 at 12:08 pm

    Like YOU…with your incessant Klownservatively craptacular superstitious religionistic bleatings (remember Puddy..He’s coming back to get YOU) do anything more than waste Goldy’s bandwidth.

    OH…and give all of us a large laff by revealing the latest in “right-wing talking points” regugitated by the lamest of right-wing regurgitators.

    This amandment was a sop to the forced birth crowd…like you.

    So just what is it with you MEN of the “religious right” and the absolute requirement that you control the bodies of women. Women are not chattel…you do not OWN them and their bodily functions.

    You as a man are apparently so small and so insecure and you need control over your women so badly that you have to FORCE a woman to bring a pregnancy to term. Even if that woman has been raped. Even if that woman may die as a result of that pregnancy leaving her other children motherless. What a bunch of sick, sick, sick bastards you all are. And you wonder why you are derided and mocked.

  14. 14

    So just what is it with you MEN of the “religious right” and the absolute requirement that you control the bodies of women. Women are not chattel…you do not OWN them and their bodily functions.

    Hey dipstick, where in the Constitution does it say Puddy has to pay for someone else’s abortion? Puddy would have gladly contributed to your abortion fool!

    Also dipstick, Puddy decries my peeps listening to the whities in PP telling us it’s great to implement donkoinfanticide. Let whitey do that. You don’t see hispanics flocking to abortion clinics fool!

    Put a cap on it. Take birth control.

    What a stupid moronic idiotic stuck on stupid dense as spent uranium fool!

  15. 15

    Re: #14

    As usual…that has NOTHING to do with my comment to you.

    You have proven yourself time and again to be incapable of dialogue and discussion.

    Can you even READ??? Where did I mention ANYTHING about the question you asked:

    14. Puddybud Remembers Progressives Forget spews:

    So just what is it with you MEN of the “religious right” and the absolute requirement that you control the bodies of women. Women are not chattel…you do not OWN them and their bodily functions.

    Hey dipstick, where in the Constitution does it say Puddy has to pay for someone else’s abortion? Puddy would have gladly contributed to your abortion fool!

    11/09/2009 at 12:31 pm

    And you wonder why you’re not taken seriously here?

  17. 17

    @16,

    This is why Puddy sez rujax is a dumb cinder block. If someone wants an abortion go pay for it. Don’t expect the guvmint to give you a free pass for fucking without protection.

    Puddy answered the dumb cinder block’s question. No where did Puddy claim control over a woman’s body, except in that femtometer sized cell called the mind of rujax. Puddy could care less what the dumb cinder block thinks, because he doesn’t think ever.

    rujax, a real dumbshit dipstick dumb cinder block.

    We laugh at the second bottom dweller of the HA Libtardo food chain rujax, the dumb cinder block!

  18. 18

    17. Puddybud Remembers Progressives Forget spews:

    @16,

    This is why Puddy sez rujax is a dumb cinder block. If someone wants an abortion go pay for it. Don’t expect the guvmint to give you a free pass for fucking without protection.

    Puddy answered the dumb cinder block’s question. No where did Puddy claim control over a woman’s body, except in that femtometer sized cell called the mind of rujax. Puddy could care less what the dumb cinder block thinks, because he doesn’t think ever.

    rujax, a real dumbshit dipstick dumb cinder block.

    We laugh at the second bottom dweller of the HA Libtardo food chain rujax, the dumb cinder block!

    11/09/2009 at 12:51 pm

    Thanks for proving my point, asswipe.

  19. 19

    http://thinkprogress.org/2009/.....omparison/

    This morning, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) participated on a conference call with the Center for American Progress Action Fund’s Judy Feder to discuss Republican efforts to shut out women’s issues in the health reform debate. Feder noted that in 2006, nine Senate Republicans voted to explicitly kill a proposal that would have ensured that insurance companies cannot use domestic violence as a pretext for denying coverage to women. The two went on to discuss how, as the House vote drew near, Republican lawmakers’ disregard for the interests of women became more apparent.

    In the House Rules Committee the Friday before the vote, Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX), who is also the chief recruiter for Republican House campaigns in 2010, justified the practice of insurance companies discriminating against women by comparing gender differences to smokers and non-smokers. The next day — on Saturday morning — Rep. Tom Price (R-GA) and several of his GOP colleagues shouted down congresswomen making 1-minute speeches on the importance of health reform for women. Wasserman Schultz denounced the interruption tactics and Sessions’ comparison of women to smokers as the “Republicans’ back of the hand treatment to women”:

    Typical of the forced birth crowd.

  20. 20

    There was no point to prove dipshit dumb cinder block. Where has Puddy ever said abortions are illegal dipshit dumb cinder block?

    ABOSLUTELY NOWHERE. So why does Puddy have to fund your family’s choices? Or any other HA Libtardo?

    Man, you swell the ranks of stupidity every day!

  22. 22

    I propose a check box on our Income Tax Form.

    I you want to fund abortion you check it.

    Otherwise use my tax dollars for something else.

    Or why don’t you libs start a charity to fund this….why does Mommy Gov’t have to do everything?

  23. 23

    @13…and killing children because they are an economic inconvenience is not “sick”?

  25. 25

    Hmmmmmm …. this is a slipper slope Puddy has slimed on …

    @17. Puddybud Rem……. If someone wants an abortion go pay for it. Don’t expect the guvmint to give you a free pass for fucking without protection. …. No where did Puddy claim control over a woman’s body,

    Gosh this makes great sense! Puddy, of course you mean any woman dumb enough not to cross her ankes during a rape or hated enuff by your God to have an ectopic preganancy or eclampsia should also pay for her sins … or is that pay for Eve’s sins?

    While we moral folks are at it, I do assume you agree that we will pick up the full costs of raising and educating these unwanted kids? Or is the original sin wished on them too?

    For that matter, maybe we need mandatory paternity testing? Wouldn’t want some good Chrsitian Daddy stuck wi support for the travails of some other cat’s sperm????

    Wait … what if God is …errr ahhh … vengeful and through no fault of Momma, her baby is anencephalic? The Christian thing to do, apparently, is to force her to have the babay and then fix her with the costs of keeping the brainless thing alive … how else to be fair when it was HER decision to let the sperm do its dirty?

    Gosh .. this leads in so many good, Christian directions! OF course we don’t want to let folks use their insurance in case they drive too fast or smoke???

    Oh well ……, to quote Puddy, “We all laugh at the second bottom dweller of the HA Reprican Troll pool, Puddy, the smart ass Tom cat.”!

  30. 30

    Lambert(n.) Especially foul piece of shit left floating in a public (King County Chambers, arch.) toilet. Now especially truckstop toilet in east king county. “Oh, christ, who left a lambert for me.”

  32. 32

    “Don’t expect the guvmint to give you a free pass for fucking without protection.”

    So if Larry Craig came down with AIDS, we should just let him die in the street? Hmmm…you might be on to something here.

  33. 33

    SJ, the latest prince of the cesspool,

    Puddy has already stated what he supports for options regarding rape and incest SJ. Butt to make your stupid point above, you either forgot (you are a libtard), or you choose to ignore (probably). So Puddy suggests you call on the HA araschloch, ylb arschloch, who can spend all his non-working hours showing to you what Puddy has said in years past.

    Go ahead SJ, be the first to have ylb arschloch use his tctmgr database for a real use. Make my day SJ, or as Puddy suggests YOU DON”T HAVE THE BALLS TO FIND OUT!

    Grow a pair SJ.

  34. 34

    Hey it’s ProudtobeanArschloch.

    How is that New Democrat Coalition treating you fool? Ohhh yeah most voted for the HR3962!

  35. 35

    Jason,

    Lighten up! I say things to get a rise outta guys like you. I see it’s workin’, in your case!

    “Anyone wanting to actually reduce the number of abortions (unwanted pregnancies) will support progressive economic policies.”

    Nope, I say force the little bitches to take the morning after pill every Monday morning as the school week starts and every Thursday afternoon before headin’ home for the day. No more teenagers ploppin’ out kids and expecting me to pick up the tab!

  36. 36

    Hey headless lucy@28, you can’t hide behind your latest name. Puddy smells you out 24×7.

    Puddy been sadly saying this for years

    Black teens have the highest teen pregnancy rate. For young women age 15-19, black teens are most likely to become pregnant (134 per 1,000 women). Slightly lower rates occur among Hispanics (131 per 1,000) followed by non-Hispanic whites (48 per 1,000).

    Like Puddy said before which falls on the deaf ears of most HA Libtardos and others; black and hispanic peeps don’t listen to GWB and his abstinence programs. So trotting out the UK article is facetious at best. Yet, these same libtardo fools will march onto this blog and scream it’s those peeps in the southern states who voted for GWB without looking at the population demographics. Hmmm…?

    Every article Puddy has recently read blames Bush for black & hispanic teenagers whose parents overwhelmingly voted for Gorebasm and Effin Kerry? How stupid and you all fall for it.

    “Mothers who were not married accounted for 83.1% of the abortions. Most of the abortions tracked by the CDC were to minorities: 36.9% to African Americans, 20.3% to Hispanics, and 9.0% to “other” (may include some Hispanics). Somewhere between 43% and 45.6% of women had had at least one previous abortion. (The status of 2.6% was “unknown.”) In addition, 59% of women having abortions had already had at least one live birth.” So how many of these women are teens? How many of these are minorities who never would have voted for GWBush.

    So much for that stupid article.

  37. 37

    @19
    I think the GOP Congressmen were just pissed that Wasserman Schultz and other democratic congresswomen had found shoes and were on the floor of the House giving speeches rather than in the kitchen where they belong.

    Of course these rules don’t apply to batshit crazy female GOP politicians. IOKIYAAR

  38. 38

    7 If the one person one vote rule were in effect here in King county, Rossi would be Governor.

  39. 39

    mark @ 38,

    Awww…isn’t that cute. Mark is still a sore loser.

    Get over it, Squirt. Time to grow up and be a big boy.

  40. 40

    @33 Puddy

    I do not think it is my responsibility to archive your ramblings,

    BUT

    the thread is about the Stupak amendment. Either you support that and dewsrve the comments I made or you are being dishonest by not opposing this bit of evil.

    Furthrermore, the issues in re abortion go far beyond your willingness to allow someone who is raped to be cared for in a humane way.

    The consistent Christians, folks I admire, fight not merely for their position on the blastula as a life but for the social services needed to support the unwanted children. The dcorrolary of opposing first term abortion as birth control, is sepdning the money to offer other methods and then, when those fail, spending the money to assure that the blameless are not treated as bastards.

    While we are on the topic of consistency, the very assertion that the blastula is a human life seems to me to lack any biblical support. We have been here before, but before deciding what God wants it seems to me that you need to find the text that justifies your willingness to force God’s will on others.

  41. 41

    Sorry, the approved definition of a Lambert is a piece of shit found lying in a public toilet. (If it’s floating that would be a floating lambert.)

  42. 42

    @28
    First, I wasn’t addressing or challenging teen pregnancy. I was adressing the assertion that abortions increased under GWB.

    I find it rather laughable that teen pregnancy is attributed to GWB. Or abortion rates for that matter….

    GWB hatred syndrome…

    Anyway, never mind that most cities and schools are run by democrats and that pregnancy is a local issue..

    Here is actual data.
    http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/n.....r58_04.pdf

    http://www.cdc.gov/reproductiv.....boutTP.htm

  43. 43

    incorrect @ 35

    Lighten up!

    No can do.

    I say force the little bitches…

    That’s funny how? Like torturing a kitten for laughs?

    Hate speech is an absolute wrong. Eliminationist rhetoric is an absolute wrong.

    You think you’re joking. At best, it’s cheap laughs. No better than a standup comic barking at a room of drunks.

    At worst, you’re no better than Ann Coulter. “Kill them all!” Queue outrage. “Haha, I was just joking! Can’t you liberals take a joke, haha.”

    This tactic is well understood. Hate speech changes discourse. It normalizes violence. It begans more hate speech. In a neverending downward spiral.

    Since you’re not yet on my twit list, I’m reading your posts. And I felt compelled to tell you they’re not appreciated.

  44. 44

    “Since you’re not yet on my twit list, I’m reading your posts. And I felt compelled to tell you they’re not appreciated.”

    Then don’t read them. I really could care less if you did or didn’t read my posts. Blogs are a “stream of consciousness” exercise for me. I write whatever I want, no matter who it offends. So, go fuck your “hate speech.”

    I could care less if women get abortions or not. I just ain’t interested in paying for the choice. If you feel like picking up the tab, by all means, do so.

  45. 45

    Is it just me or did government bureaucrats just get between the patient and their doctor in deciding which medical procedure they should or shouldn’t have with the Stupak amendment?

  46. 46

    incorrect @ 44

    I really could care less if you did or didn’t read my posts.

    Wrong.

    Online flamewars, trolling, being a dick, shaming those being dicks, etc. are all just performance art. We’re all playing to the crowd.

    You post on Horse’s Ass to illicit a reaction. The action is the juice. If you didn’t care, you’d post somewhere unpopular. Or write letters to the editor.

    So, go fuck your “hate speech”

    See? Right there. That’s what I’m talking about. Bad troll. No cookie.

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