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		<title>By: Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie</title>
		<link>http://horsesass.org/?p=48257&#038;cpage=2#comment-1206061</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 15:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is interesting...

Gun ownership rates.  US unambiguously at the top.

Notable for our jackboot/government-fearing/survivalist bunker-dwellers: Tunisia, in which a popular uprising just recently overthrew the government, has the lowest rate, due to severe restrictions on gun ownership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country" rel="nofollow">This</a> is interesting&#8230;</p>
<p>Gun ownership rates.  US unambiguously at the top.</p>
<p>Notable for our jackboot/government-fearing/survivalist bunker-dwellers: Tunisia, in which a popular uprising just recently overthrew the government, has the lowest rate, due to severe restrictions on gun ownership.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie</title>
		<link>http://horsesass.org/?p=48257&#038;cpage=2#comment-1206060</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 15:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two approaches:

1. Universal access to health care, including comprehensive mental health care.

2. Gun laws comparable in scope and severity with other industrialized/wealthy nations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two approaches:</p>
<p>1. Universal access to health care, including comprehensive mental health care.</p>
<p>2. Gun laws comparable in scope and severity with other industrialized/wealthy nations.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie</title>
		<link>http://horsesass.org/?p=48257&#038;cpage=2#comment-1206058</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 15:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t just about guns.

The NRA is an integral part of the Conservative &#039;movement&#039; and does FAR more than advocate for gun rights.

Conservatives are more &lt;a href=&quot;http://2012election.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004818&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fear-motivated&lt;/a&gt; than liberals, and the right has discovered that a large slice of their base is able to be motivated over fear of their guns being taken away.  There is a significant slice of America that believes that &#039;others&#039; are coming to take their stuff, and this includes the government.  A bunker mentality has been stoked, the fear-driven right wing id has been tickled, and the notion that in illegitimate government is coming to confiscate your &#039;stuff&#039; and give it to undeserving blacks/Mexicans/unionists/elite gay liberals/uppity women/etc is central to the fear-stoking.

The success of the NRA has been singular, all the pools of blood across this country notwithstanding, but it&#039;s not really about the guns.  It&#039;s about getting the fear-motivated gun owners to hate &#039;liberals&#039; and hate government and vote for Republicans - so they can effect more upward transfer of wealth to fewer hands.

This is about politics, and about society, but it boils down to political power, and money, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t just about guns.</p>
<p>The NRA is an integral part of the Conservative &#8216;movement&#8217; and does FAR more than advocate for gun rights.</p>
<p>Conservatives are more <a href="http://2012election.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004818" rel="nofollow">fear-motivated</a> than liberals, and the right has discovered that a large slice of their base is able to be motivated over fear of their guns being taken away.  There is a significant slice of America that believes that &#8216;others&#8217; are coming to take their stuff, and this includes the government.  A bunker mentality has been stoked, the fear-driven right wing id has been tickled, and the notion that in illegitimate government is coming to confiscate your &#8217;stuff&#8217; and give it to undeserving blacks/Mexicans/unionists/elite gay liberals/uppity women/etc is central to the fear-stoking.</p>
<p>The success of the NRA has been singular, all the pools of blood across this country notwithstanding, but it&#8217;s not really about the guns.  It&#8217;s about getting the fear-motivated gun owners to hate &#8216;liberals&#8217; and hate government and vote for Republicans &#8211; so they can effect more upward transfer of wealth to fewer hands.</p>
<p>This is about politics, and about society, but it boils down to political power, and money, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: YLB</title>
		<link>http://horsesass.org/?p=48257&#038;cpage=2#comment-1206004</link>
		<dc:creator>YLB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh let&#039;s not forget that according to little maxee wankatanksy that folks who raise their kids in Seattle and cities like it are &lt;a href=&quot;http://horsesass.org/?p=31746#comment-1051002&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;guilty of &quot;child abuse&quot;..&lt;/a&gt;

Oh and parents who raised their kids in Newtown, CT are guilty of what exactly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh let&#8217;s not forget that according to little maxee wankatanksy that folks who raise their kids in Seattle and cities like it are <a href="http://horsesass.org/?p=31746#comment-1051002" rel="nofollow">guilty of &#8220;child abuse&#8221;..</a></p>
<p>Oh and parents who raised their kids in Newtown, CT are guilty of what exactly?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://horsesass.org/?p=48257&#038;cpage=2#comment-1206003</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;m going to shut down my computer and just leave it off for a day or two. I&#039;ve seen enough. 

Take care everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;m going to shut down my computer and just leave it off for a day or two. I&#8217;ve seen enough. </p>
<p>Take care everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: YLB</title>
		<link>http://horsesass.org/?p=48257&#038;cpage=2#comment-1206002</link>
		<dc:creator>YLB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s too funny (and sad) to see the asshat troll, little maxee wankatansky feign concern for child victims of gun violence:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://horsesass.org/?p=36113#comment-1101711&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; what kind of sick parents send their kids to be brainwashed at a “youth political camp”?  I didnt even think such things existed….its almost like a partisan lemming factory.&lt;/a&gt;

Wow this is how little maxee shows &quot;concern&quot; for something like 69 murdered kids before they could be turned into &quot;partisan lemmings&quot;.

I bet he&#039;s really &quot;concerned&quot; about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83330_Page4.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;these kids from this  &quot;partisan lemming factory&quot;&lt;/a&gt; too..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s too funny (and sad) to see the asshat troll, little maxee wankatansky feign concern for child victims of gun violence:</p>
<p><a href="http://horsesass.org/?p=36113#comment-1101711" rel="nofollow"> what kind of sick parents send their kids to be brainwashed at a “youth political camp”?  I didnt even think such things existed….its almost like a partisan lemming factory.</a></p>
<p>Wow this is how little maxee shows &#8220;concern&#8221; for something like 69 murdered kids before they could be turned into &#8220;partisan lemmings&#8221;.</p>
<p>I bet he&#8217;s really &#8220;concerned&#8221; about <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83330_Page4.html" rel="nofollow">these kids from this  &#8220;partisan lemming factory&#8221;</a> too..</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could only make it a couple minutes into this nonsense.
&lt;blockquote&gt;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE7I6B13QSg
On December 14, 2012, the date this response video was recorded, a gunman entered a school in CT armed with Glock, Sig, and AR-15 armaments and started shooting. As of the filming on this video the facts were still emerging. However the whys and hows he did it are less important to you than what will result because of it. Also 1000s of hours of analysis will be provided by the progressive media as the push forward a predicted propaganda that the US is an out of control gun nation and it much be reigned in. That propaganda is aimed at convincing all Americans that you and your guns are the real threat and immediate measures will have to be passed to &quot;keep us safe.&quot; Those measures will include but not be limited to a new and expansive &quot;AWB&quot; as I predicted in &quot;Preparing for the NEW America&quot; video series [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSWUF1m8Ito]. &quot;Congratulations&quot; to non voters or protest voters who have helped keep Obama team in power to &quot;push forward&quot; with this determined disarmament &quot;mandate.&quot; Expect magazine bans, specific type gun bans, features bans, registeration, ammo restrictions, and perhaps even NO grandfathering [discussed] on a federal level. This is not a probability, it&#039;s a coming fact &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Please do me and the world a favor and tell this idiot to fuck off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could only make it a couple minutes into this nonsense.</p>
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE7I6B13QSg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE7I6B13QSg</a><br />
On December 14, 2012, the date this response video was recorded, a gunman entered a school in CT armed with Glock, Sig, and AR-15 armaments and started shooting. As of the filming on this video the facts were still emerging. However the whys and hows he did it are less important to you than what will result because of it. Also 1000s of hours of analysis will be provided by the progressive media as the push forward a predicted propaganda that the US is an out of control gun nation and it much be reigned in. That propaganda is aimed at convincing all Americans that you and your guns are the real threat and immediate measures will have to be passed to &#8220;keep us safe.&#8221; Those measures will include but not be limited to a new and expansive &#8220;AWB&#8221; as I predicted in &#8220;Preparing for the NEW America&#8221; video series [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSWUF1m8Ito]. &#8220;Congratulations&#8221; to non voters or protest voters who have helped keep Obama team in power to &#8220;push forward&#8221; with this determined disarmament &#8220;mandate.&#8221; Expect magazine bans, specific type gun bans, features bans, registeration, ammo restrictions, and perhaps even NO grandfathering [discussed] on a federal level. This is not a probability, it&#8217;s a coming fact </p></blockquote>
<p>Please do me and the world a favor and tell this idiot to fuck off.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watched some of the TV news tonight. Heard lots and lots of comments about how we need to do a better job on treating mental illness and on keeping guns out of the hand of the mentally ill. I that sounded encouraging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watched some of the TV news tonight. Heard lots and lots of comments about how we need to do a better job on treating mental illness and on keeping guns out of the hand of the mentally ill. I that sounded encouraging.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@59&lt;blockquote&gt;
news is reporting that the deceased mom was the one who bought the firearms &lt;/blockquote&gt;

That seems to be the case.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
is she a threat?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Like a lot of folks in America, she got killed with her own gun.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
how do you keep a law-abiding 50+ mom and teacher from purchasing a weapon? &lt;/blockquote&gt; 

I wouldn&#039;t want to. She&#039;s a law-abiding person who&#039;s of legal age to own a gun. But, it&#039;s also turning out that she had a son with a history of mental illness. Why anyone would have a gun where their mentally ill kid could get ahold of it is beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@59<br />
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news is reporting that the deceased mom was the one who bought the firearms </p></blockquote>
<p>That seems to be the case.</p>
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is she a threat?</p></blockquote>
<p>Like a lot of folks in America, she got killed with her own gun.</p>
<blockquote><p>
how do you keep a law-abiding 50+ mom and teacher from purchasing a weapon? </p></blockquote>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t want to. She&#8217;s a law-abiding person who&#8217;s of legal age to own a gun. But, it&#8217;s also turning out that she had a son with a history of mental illness. Why anyone would have a gun where their mentally ill kid could get ahold of it is beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: YLB</title>
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		<dc:creator>YLB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 02:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Politicians are not smart people…thats why they are politicians.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

LOL!! And right wing billionaires are - like Sheldon Adelson spending 100 million and losing 99 percent of it.

Heh.. How&#039;d that &lt;a href=&quot;http://horsesass.org/?p=36811#comment-1106470&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Obama is another Hoover&quot;&lt;/a&gt; bullshit work out for you?  The former &quot;community organizer&quot; sure put to shame all those right wing billions wasted on Romney..

Hoover served only one term stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Politicians are not smart people…thats why they are politicians.</p></blockquote>
<p>LOL!! And right wing billionaires are &#8211; like Sheldon Adelson spending 100 million and losing 99 percent of it.</p>
<p>Heh.. How&#8217;d that <a href="http://horsesass.org/?p=36811#comment-1106470" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Obama is another Hoover&#8221;</a> bullshit work out for you?  The former &#8220;community organizer&#8221; sure put to shame all those right wing billions wasted on Romney..</p>
<p>Hoover served only one term stupid.</p>
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